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Should pitbulls be regulated · Chuck Douglas

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  Speaker 1: Chuck Douglas in The Power Hour on six ten UPL
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  Speaker 1: the u TV and talking pit bulls. I do think
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  Speaker 1: it is time, it has pastime for us to have
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate, respectful conversation, probably at the legislative level, about
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  Speaker 1: pit bull ownership and the obligations that come with it.
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  Speaker 1: Now and not surprisingly, I've been getting messages, people sending
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  Speaker 1: me messages, one of which after Zach exclaimed that that
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  Speaker 1: he was all for just basically extermination, isn't what? Why
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  Speaker 1: are you laughing at that? That's what you said? You
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  Speaker 1: just you don't think they should exist?
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  Speaker 2: Well, pretty much, I got some There are some calls
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  Speaker 2: before the show that they weren't too happy with me
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  Speaker 2: saying that. But I do want to say real quick
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  Speaker 2: that our friend Meg's County Tim called with an idea
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  Speaker 2: that if you have a pit bull, it should be
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  Speaker 2: a law. If you take them outside, they should be
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  Speaker 2: muzzled at all times, no matter what. So I told
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  Speaker 2: her I would mention that I thought that could be
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  Speaker 2: a bit interested. It's an interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Thought, okay, So would that satisfy you? Instead of killing
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  Speaker 1: them all off? If pitbulls had to be muzzled in
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  Speaker 1: public at all times, no.
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  Speaker 2: Because how many times do we hear like it's the breed.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the breed, it's the owner. My dog is great,
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  Speaker 2: it's a perfect dog. It would never hurt anything, and
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  Speaker 2: then like it kills their infant or the dog next
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  Speaker 2: door for no legitimate reason whatsoever. The dogs are born
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  Speaker 2: to fight. That's what they're there for.
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  Speaker 1: That is. But then again, perhaps that is why they
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  Speaker 1: were bred, why they why they actually became fairly popular
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  Speaker 1: in some circles. But other animals the same way weren't.
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  Speaker 1: I think rodweilers were essentially for the same reason, used
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  Speaker 1: for the same reason as fighting dogs. Yeah, even chuhahuas.
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  Speaker 1: They were amount of dama. Oh they but they in
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  Speaker 1: groups they can and that's how they were used in
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  Speaker 1: the incas the astacs. I forget who was, but they
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  Speaker 1: traveled in pacts. They were like little palace piranhas, and
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  Speaker 1: because of their large ears, they would hear intruders and
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  Speaker 1: they would attack like little pirana. They're small, but a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of them on you at once could do some damage.
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  Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say we need to eliminate who I was.
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  Speaker 1: More often than not, though, if we hear of a
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  Speaker 1: an attack on a human being these days by a
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  Speaker 1: dog gets a pit bull and because of that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think, I think the conversation. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: a muzzle law would be acceptable to people. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if you know, insurance requirement for owning a pit
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  Speaker 1: bull almost seems reasonable. As I said, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: are probably not far from having. It's already been tried
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  Speaker 1: to force insurance upon people for having firearms. Some if
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  Speaker 1: you want to if you carry a firearm, they want
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  Speaker 1: you to have to have manuatory insurance if you own
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  Speaker 1: a firearm. There are some who believe you should have
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  Speaker 1: insurance for that simply for having you know, availed yourself
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  Speaker 1: with the constitutional right of firearm ownership. Those firearms cannot
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  Speaker 1: go out and harm people. Your gun is not jumping
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  Speaker 1: out of your closet, running out into the street and
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  Speaker 1: shooting itself at anybody. It is an intimate object, whereas
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  Speaker 1: a dog can slip off the leash, escape the yard,
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  Speaker 1: run out of the house or whatever and do harm
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  Speaker 1: and can be erratic and uncontrolled. So if you're going
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  Speaker 1: to tell me an inanimate object requires insurance coverage because
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  Speaker 1: I own it, even though it's a constitutional right, I
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  Speaker 1: should have to have insurance.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like a constitutional right anymore, doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, because they keep on that whole you know,
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  Speaker 1: shall not be in friends thing. People don't seem to
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  Speaker 1: get that. But if you want me to have insurance
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  Speaker 1: for owning a gun, then I don't see where you
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  Speaker 1: would be able to argue the point that having insurance
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  Speaker 1: for owning a potentially volatile, violent, vicious, dangerous animal is
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  Speaker 1: out of the question. And I don't know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything that says the officer that shot
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  Speaker 1: this dog here in Columbus was a dog hater. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what I'm sure that. You know, if I
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  Speaker 1: had to kill a dog, I would that would burden
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  Speaker 1: me if I had to kill anything living, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to carry that. But I haven't heard anybody
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  Speaker 1: talk about, you know, how he's feeling, how the officer's feeling,
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  Speaker 1: who had to do this. They they they're coming out
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  Speaker 1: of the woodwork though, in social media comments and web
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  Speaker 1: page comments and so forth, blaming the officer for shooting
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  Speaker 1: the dog that was attacking the woman and her dog
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  Speaker 1: on a leash, as if he did the wrong thing,
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  Speaker 1: what should he have done? It is so easy to criticize,
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  Speaker 1: but what should he have done split second decision, very
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  Speaker 1: very very potentially a life and death situation, and whether
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  Speaker 1: the aggressor had two legs or four legs, he neutralized
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  Speaker 1: the situation. That's exactly what we would expect him to do,
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  Speaker 1: what he's trained to do. Or again, maybe that's just me.
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  Speaker 1: But if the City of Columbus, the council, the mayor
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  Speaker 1: of the City of Columbus, they want to take positions
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  Speaker 1: on Arizona's immigration stance, they want to take positions on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, state legislature's taxing stance, they will City Columbus
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  Speaker 1: always wants to be something more than the City of Clubus.
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  Speaker 1: Be the city of Columbus. Deal with this, deal with
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  Speaker 1: this within the city limits of Columbus. You want to
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  Speaker 1: limit what kind of magazines I can have for my
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  Speaker 1: constitutionally guaranteed firearm in the City of Columbus. You're the powerful.
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  Speaker 1: Why the hell aren't we having a meeting in city
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  Speaker 1: council right now about some sort of legislation to govern
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  Speaker 1: the ownership of vicious, potentially vicious known vicious breeds of animals.
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  Speaker 1: Not just saying dogs, I'm saying animals. Why not? Why
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  Speaker 1: not if you think you have the authority to oversee
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  Speaker 1: and control a constitutional right. There's no constitutional right to
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  Speaker 1: dog ownership. Why would city council in the mayor's office
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  Speaker 1: and you know, get Zach Klein in there, he needs
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  Speaker 1: headlines to Why would they not be right now calling
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  Speaker 1: the press conference. But yeah, we're gonna sit down to
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  Speaker 1: sit in the room and talk this out. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: work this out. We're gonna come up with something because
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  Speaker 1: the citizens of Columbus need to be protected against this
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  Speaker 1: kind of aggression. Does that not make sense? Is that
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  Speaker 1: not reasonable that your elected officials would do this?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's should be expected from all the people
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  Speaker 2: who vote in Columbus and pay attention that these are
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  Speaker 2: the things that they should be doing, not whatever they're
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  Speaker 2: doing right now. Yeah, you have to hold the people
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  Speaker 2: that you vote for. They have to have accountability. And
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  Speaker 2: the pitbull think there's been so many headlines recently about
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  Speaker 2: pit bull attacks the last six months. It shouldn't just
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  Speaker 2: be something that's on the back burner. Should be addressed,
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  Speaker 2: and it should be addressed in a serious manner. So
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  Speaker 2: being a pit bull owner, does it make you a
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  Speaker 2: terrible and a bad person? And you know. I may
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  Speaker 2: have went over the top a little bit with eradicate
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  Speaker 2: all pit bulls, but the point is is that you,
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  Speaker 2: at the very least, if your a pit bull owner,
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  Speaker 2: should be absolutely responsible for whatever happens.
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  Speaker 1: Which seems completely reasonable. I mean, look, if your kid
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  Speaker 1: breaks a window at the neighbor's house, you're responsible for it.
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  Speaker 1: And your kid's a human being. And if you are
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  Speaker 1: responsible for that, and you chose to have this breed
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  Speaker 1: of dogs, shouldn't you I don't know, shouldn't you be
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  Speaker 1: responsible for it too. I'm not telling you you're a
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  Speaker 1: bad person if you own a pit bull. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even saying you've got a bad pitbull. I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 1: of all the animals that could potentially, you know, lose
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  Speaker 1: control and snap and take off your arm, I'd worry
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  Speaker 1: about a pit bull before i'd worry about a cocker spaniel.
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  Speaker 1: But any animal, let me say that again, any animal
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  Speaker 1: can snap, They can snap and become violent. Any animal,
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  Speaker 1: any dog, any breed of dog, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I mean to be fair. My cat, every time she
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  Speaker 2: gets out, snaps and kills literally anything in her path
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  Speaker 2: that she's bigger than them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I told you last week Mark and I were
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  Speaker 1: talking about something. I forget what it was. He was
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  Speaker 1: asking about violent animals, and I had a cat that
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  Speaker 1: actually backed my son into a corner.
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  Speaker 2: Now, see that's my cat. Well, she's great with kids,
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  Speaker 2: she's great with people. But if you're a bird or
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  Speaker 2: a rabbit or a score whatever, she's going to attack you.
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  Speaker 2: But not only attack you, He's gonna hurt you and
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  Speaker 2: then play with you for a while. Because you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's signs of psychopathy there. There's no way to untrain that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just again, I'm saying it right here, right now,
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  Speaker 1: out loud over the radio, Columbus City Council, Columbus City Council,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to you, including whoever was selected today, Columbus
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  Speaker 1: City Council and Mayor Andrew Ginther. You need to get together.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of you know, finding new or more creative ways
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  Speaker 1: to be annoying, do something productive here.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't think the food cart thing was Oh no, great,
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  Speaker 2: you don't think that was just annoying.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna fix violence, no brought worst after ten pm. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's do something real. I mean, I realized I'm
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  Speaker 1: not one of the fancy shmancy citizens that you named
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  Speaker 1: to committees and so forth, because well, you know all
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  Speaker 1: them and they probably donated to your campaigns. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: just a regular guy out here who's saying, do something
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  Speaker 1: for the citizens of Columbus. Instead of something punitive, something
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  Speaker 1: to put more money in the tax in the tax
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  Speaker 1: funds or the fee funds or whatever, Let's do something productive.
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  Speaker 1: Let's sit down and have a conversation about what to
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  Speaker 1: do when it comes to vicious animals within the limits
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  Speaker 1: of the city of Columbus. It's reasonable, it's logical, and frankly,
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  Speaker 1: it's your job, this whole representative republic thing. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. Represent the people. Don't worry
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  Speaker 1: about your campaign fund. Represent the people, don't worry about
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  Speaker 1: your political donors. Represent the people, some of which have
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  Speaker 1: absolutely no money. But they've got a dog next door
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  Speaker 1: to then that scares the hell out of them every
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  Speaker 1: time they come out their front door. Or again, maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's just me, Zachary. It's been really, it's been fine.
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  Speaker 1: I've had a blast with you today. I'm not hearing
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  Speaker 1: the music, but I know it's on the way, So
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  Speaker 1: I just one to get that out of the way.
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  Speaker 1: You and I put up with each other for four hours. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: at no point did you do you curse at me
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  Speaker 1: or throw anything. I didn't see any foul gestures coming
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  Speaker 1: at me through the window, and uh, and I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you enjoy yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I always enjoy myself when I'm working for you.
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  Speaker 1: And all that. So is there anything you need to
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  Speaker 1: throw in the mix before we say tata?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: I just uh, I need to learn to play chess
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  Speaker 2: better and Charlie is still beating me. Other than that,
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  Speaker 2: everything's great.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a while. You need to
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  Speaker 1: bring him in, ye.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll bring him in. Uh yeah, sometime
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  Speaker 1: That okay, that will be nice.