Latest / The Eye of Jupiter Podcast / 102 Alien Contact in Illinois Linked to the Giants of Afghanistan? Ray Rahim Speaks
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- 0:09Speaker 1: Welcome back to the IA Jupiter. Episode one hundred and two.
- 0:12Speaker 1: We had on mister Ray Raheem. He is the author
- 0:15Speaker 1: of the Encyclopedia of Conspiracy Theories. You could find that
- 0:19Speaker 1: over on Amazon or down in Delites in the description below.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Ray came on and we started to talk about his
- 0:26Speaker 1: family's connection with the giants of Afghanistan or the giants
- 0:31Speaker 1: of Kandahar. Maybe you heard that he is originally from Afghanistan.
- 0:34Speaker 1: And he told some interesting stories about what his grandmother
- 0:37Speaker 1: was doing, leading out like a goat or something near
- 0:40Speaker 1: the cave, and then coming back later and then not
- 0:43Speaker 1: being there, and then he went into an incredible experience
- 0:47Speaker 1: that he had when he was on his way to
- 0:48Speaker 1: Missouri and aliens basically got into his mind, or as
- 0:52Speaker 1: he thinks were they were demons and basically entered his mind.
- 0:57Speaker 1: He couldn't get him out, so it was It's incredible
- 0:59Speaker 1: and it's very scary, and I want to thank Ray
- 1:02Speaker 1: for coming on. If you keep coming on The IA Jupiter.
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- 1:37Speaker 1: So enjoy this episode with one mister ray Raheem.
- 1:41Speaker 2: How's it going everyone? Can everyone hear me? Yeah?
- 1:43Speaker 1: We can hear you just fine. I can hear you, jo, Okay,
- 1:46Speaker 1: can you hear me?
- 1:46Speaker 2: Awesome? I can hear you just fine. Yeah. Earlier I
- 1:49Speaker 2: was having a bunch of issues with the uh yeah, yeah,
- 1:52Speaker 2: I got I gotta fixed.
- 1:53Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty good. So yeah, so you're out
- 1:55Speaker 1: there in Philadelphia. How's the weather right now?
- 1:57Speaker 2: Man? It is freezing? Yeah, it's fair cold. The traffic
- 2:02Speaker 2: is on I ninety five during rush hour. It's supposed
- 2:05Speaker 2: to be worse than Bangkok, Thailand traffic. I know it's
- 2:10Speaker 2: pretty bad, you know. So that's right?
- 2:14Speaker 1: That great? Do everyone do me a favor, as well
- 2:18Speaker 1: as the listeners or watchers of the podcast here on YouTube.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about yourself and where we
- 2:24Speaker 1: can find you.
- 2:25Speaker 2: Okay, my name is ray Raheem. I am an author,
- 2:30Speaker 2: painting contractor, and my family has involvement with the Giant
- 2:34Speaker 2: of Condahar, which is why I'm here talking to you guys.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And my book can be found on Amazon. It is
- 2:41Speaker 2: the Encyclopedia of Conspiracy Theories fact Book of the Hidden
- 2:46Speaker 2: Volume one. I had volume two, but it got banned
- 2:50Speaker 2: from Amazon because of you know, I wrote about this
- 2:53Speaker 2: guy and I talked about Yeah, I talked about Israel
- 2:58Speaker 2: and stuff like that, and the book is banned. I
- 3:00Speaker 2: can't even order author copies. This one is actually for
- 3:05Speaker 2: my man right here. So yeah, that's uh yeah, there's
- 3:10Speaker 2: only a few copies in existence. But whatever it is,
- 3:12Speaker 2: what it is. So I have to.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Put on and send it to me man, because it's
- 3:16Speaker 1: going to be very expensive anything to hear to Mexico.
- 3:21Speaker 2: I'll take care of it, don't worry about it.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, tell me a little bit about your background.
- 3:27Speaker 1: Where you're from.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Okay, So that nature all right. So my family is
- 3:32Speaker 2: from Afghanistan, Originally they immigrated here to the United States
- 3:37Speaker 2: when I was ten months old, so that would have
- 3:40Speaker 2: been in late nineteen eight, like December of eighty seven.
- 3:44Speaker 2: I was born in January, and then from there they
- 3:47Speaker 2: moved around a whole bunch around the New York Pennsylvania area,
- 3:54Speaker 2: and then from there we ended up settling in Writing, Pennsylvania,
- 3:58Speaker 2: and I was put in austra care in nineteen ninety
- 4:01Speaker 2: five in Bucks County in a town called Warminster, and
- 4:05Speaker 2: that's where I grew up until two thousand and five,
- 4:08Speaker 2: and then I moved back to Birks County until twenty seventeen,
- 4:12Speaker 2: so twelve years up there, and then I moved to
- 4:14Speaker 2: Jersey City for a couple of years, and then I
- 4:16Speaker 2: moved back down here right outside of Philadelphia. I have
- 4:21Speaker 2: a pretty extensively large family overseas in Pakistan and Afghanistan,
- 4:26Speaker 2: most of whom I've never met, and I don't know,
- 4:30Speaker 2: but apparently you know, they know me. So if they
- 4:33Speaker 2: see these videos, yeah.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Well, shout out to the Raheem family.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to the Raheems. Yeah. Thanks awesome.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Right, So I met you through Jim the Knight's watch
- 4:46Speaker 1: our wonderful friend Jim how over at the Knight's Watch.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Go and check out the channel, guys, I can subscribe
- 4:52Speaker 1: over there. And we hit it off pretty well. We
- 4:54Speaker 1: were going to actually do a live show about Tataria again.
- 4:57Speaker 1: You said, I got some new stuff, you got my Yeah,
- 5:01Speaker 1: I actually talked to somebody today. One of my students
- 5:03Speaker 1: is from Tataran, which is a part of Russia. So
- 5:09Speaker 1: and he actually speaks the language. He actually speaks the language, dude.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Really yeah, so that's that's his native tongue. So I
- 5:17Speaker 1: was like, and then you coming on today, I'm like, oh,
- 5:19Speaker 1: this is lining up.
- 5:20Speaker 2: So this is yeah, alignment. Life is all about alignment
- 5:26Speaker 2: and timing, isn't it. Yeah, it is, isn't it? It is.
- 5:29Speaker 1: It's also perspective, a lot of too frequency, vibration, all
- 5:35Speaker 1: that stuff. Dude. The giant of Kandahar So, okay, I've
- 5:40Speaker 1: heard of the name. I know that Kandahar is I
- 5:42Speaker 1: believe is in Afghanistan. Yeah, can you like just kind
- 5:47Speaker 1: of go into that and tell me what you know
- 5:49Speaker 1: about it, what your involvement is with it, and so
- 5:53Speaker 1: we can kind of go through this.
- 5:55Speaker 2: Okay. So basically, my grandmother was a witch and that's
- 6:04Speaker 2: usually how I start this conversation, because that's pretty much
- 6:08Speaker 2: the premise of the whole thing. She was dabbling in
- 6:11Speaker 2: some weird called occult practices that were handed down to
- 6:16Speaker 2: her by, you know, for other family members, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 2: like it was always passed down from like grandmother to
- 6:23Speaker 2: granddaughter kind of thing. So she learned it from her elders.
- 6:29Speaker 2: And essentially what it is is guarding or kind of
- 6:34Speaker 2: being the gatekeeper for a creature that lives inside of
- 6:38Speaker 2: the earth that I guess at one time there were
- 6:41Speaker 2: a lot more of them and they lived on the surface,
- 6:43Speaker 2: but now they I don't know if they were driven
- 6:46Speaker 2: underground or if they voluntarily went underground. But apparently all
- 6:52Speaker 2: the caves in Afghanistan are not the safest place to be.
- 6:55Speaker 2: And growing up, my dad was told to stay out
- 6:59Speaker 2: of the uh, you know, the caves as much as
- 7:01Speaker 2: he could. Don't go playing in there. It's dangerous. But
- 7:05Speaker 2: more than that, there were other things, other reasons than
- 7:08Speaker 2: just maybe falling into a little like hidden cravas or
- 7:12Speaker 2: something inside of the cave or I don't know, I
- 7:17Speaker 2: don't know what else can happen in a cave. I'm
- 7:19Speaker 2: I'm ignorant, but you know, ironically being afghan you know,
- 7:25Speaker 2: I'm ignorant on what goes on in caves, right, Yeah,
- 7:27Speaker 2: I guess that's for the best.
- 7:29Speaker 1: All over the world, you always hear about the caves
- 7:31Speaker 1: like here is the Ilucius live in the Games, which
- 7:32Speaker 1: are the small three foot tall like you know, like
- 7:36Speaker 1: little like chair of things that are a little bit mischievous.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And then in North America, I always talk about the
- 7:42Speaker 1: cave system and in congruence with like the you know,
- 7:46Speaker 1: the the Zasquatch sightings. So then in Afghanistan you're hearing
- 7:50Speaker 1: about you know, the Candaheart Giant and in particular, So
- 7:53Speaker 1: that's just interesting that caves and underground, there's there's something
- 7:58Speaker 1: there going on, not to mention all the government things
- 8:00Speaker 1: that we hear about and you know, things of that nature.
- 8:02Speaker 1: So yeah, let's get into the story man.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Yeah. So my dad, growing up, he witnessed my grandmother
- 8:09Speaker 2: doing some weird things. She would basically take some of
- 8:13Speaker 2: their animals and lead them to this area where there
- 8:17Speaker 2: was this cave and it was always the specific area
- 8:20Speaker 2: apparently and the specific cave, and she would tie the
- 8:23Speaker 2: animal up at the mouth of the cave and then
- 8:26Speaker 2: they would leave and that was it. And on a
- 8:29Speaker 2: few occasions, my dad said that he would hear the
- 8:31Speaker 2: animal scream once they got so far away. He never
- 8:35Speaker 2: saw anything personally, but he heard it and some you know, obviously,
- 8:40Speaker 2: when they would come more times and stuff, he would
- 8:43Speaker 2: kind of he wouldn't go and tie the animal with
- 8:46Speaker 2: my grandmother. He would just kind of wait with the
- 8:49Speaker 2: donkey or whatever they had up there, because they would
- 8:52Speaker 2: you know, I guess this was kind of far away
- 8:54Speaker 2: from their village, you know, far enough away where they
- 8:58Speaker 2: had to carry things. So they brought their donkey, and
- 9:00Speaker 2: they brought their sacrifice animal or whatever, and they would
- 9:03Speaker 2: tie this animal up at the entrance of this cave,
- 9:06Speaker 2: the specific cave, repeatedly in his childhood, and then when
- 9:10Speaker 2: he became a teenager, it just kind of like fell off.
- 9:14Speaker 2: It just didn't happen as much anymore. And he was
- 9:16Speaker 2: out hanging out with his friends. You know, my dad
- 9:19Speaker 2: was kind of a I guess you could say a delinquent,
- 9:24Speaker 2: you know, he would you know, he yeah, he partied,
- 9:28Speaker 2: He partied. And one night he was partying with his
- 9:30Speaker 2: buddies and in the morning he was coming home and
- 9:34Speaker 2: he I guess he was going to pray. He went
- 9:37Speaker 2: to go wash his face in the river and stuff,
- 9:39Speaker 2: and he came upon a really big footprint and he
- 9:42Speaker 2: said it was really odd because that's not something that
- 9:45Speaker 2: they're told about or they hear about, you know. He
- 9:48Speaker 2: said that whoever made this footprint what it had to
- 9:52Speaker 2: be a really big person. He said, he could have
- 9:54Speaker 2: laid down in it. It was so big. So, oh, yeah,
- 9:57Speaker 2: it was. It was. Yeah. He was like, what the
- 10:00Speaker 2: hell is this? So in other interviews I was asked
- 10:04Speaker 2: if he divulged whether or not there were six fingers
- 10:08Speaker 2: or toes. I never asked. I didn't know to ask.
- 10:10Speaker 2: I didn't know anything about giants or any of that.
- 10:12Speaker 2: When my dad told me the story, he died shortly after,
- 10:16Speaker 2: so no way to you know. But yeah, so he
- 10:21Speaker 2: came upon this footprint. He thought it was very odd,
- 10:24Speaker 2: and he said something to his grandmother. I'm sorry, he
- 10:27Speaker 2: said something to my grandmother about it, which is his mother,
- 10:30Speaker 2: and she and she said, all right, well, now you
- 10:33Speaker 2: know why I told you to stay out of those caves.
- 10:35Speaker 2: There are these things in there, and they called them gins,
- 10:40Speaker 2: so she just kind of told them, yeah, those are
- 10:42Speaker 2: you know, there's there's gins you know, they can take
- 10:45Speaker 2: physical form, or they can just kind of vanish or
- 10:49Speaker 2: you know, go into like another realm or dimension or
- 10:52Speaker 2: whatever you want to carry.
- 10:54Speaker 1: That's a very colloquial term for that area, like for
- 10:57Speaker 1: for the Islamic area, the Muslims. Yeah, it's like it's
- 11:03Speaker 1: like an evil demon or something of that nature.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Right. Well, gins are made from fire, so angels are
- 11:11Speaker 2: made of light. Humans are made from the earth like dust,
- 11:14Speaker 2: and gins are made from fire. And they're just another
- 11:16Speaker 2: one of you know, the creations on the earth, and
- 11:21Speaker 2: they live in a spectrum of reality that can't be
- 11:26Speaker 2: consciously viewed. And I would speculate personally that that's why
- 11:30Speaker 2: a lot of psychedelics exist and people take psychedelics is
- 11:33Speaker 2: to be able to break through. And I've experimented with
- 11:36Speaker 2: that stuff in the past. I'm sure you have. I'm
- 11:38Speaker 2: sure a lot of people out there watching they've experimented
- 11:40Speaker 2: with psychedelics. And there are medicine men all over the world,
- 11:44Speaker 2: and I don't think Afghanistan is that different. I couldn't
- 11:48Speaker 2: tell you. I couldn't tell you what they hallucinate off
- 11:50Speaker 2: of over there. I'm guessing some type of cactus that
- 11:53Speaker 2: would be my guess maybe scorpion venom. I don't know,
- 11:56Speaker 2: like maybe they have one of those like undiscovered kinds
- 12:00Speaker 2: of toads or frogs like they had here in America,
- 12:02Speaker 2: where you know, the little secretions could make you have
- 12:06Speaker 2: like a vision or whatever. So I've speculated about that,
- 12:10Speaker 2: but you know, I didn't get too hung up on
- 12:14Speaker 2: Bush too. It couldn't be. Yeah, I don't know. I mean,
- 12:18Speaker 2: I mean they've got some really really strong hash and stuff.
- 12:21Speaker 2: I mean they've had that for generations. Right, Yeah, there
- 12:28Speaker 2: you go. So yeah, long story short, my dad was
- 12:34Speaker 2: a little bit distraught and freaked out that he saw that,
- 12:37Speaker 2: and then his grand it was almost like, I guess
- 12:41Speaker 2: his mom was like so matter of fact about it
- 12:43Speaker 2: that he was like, whoa she you know this, this
- 12:45Speaker 2: is not a woman that focks around or like pardon
- 12:47Speaker 2: the French, but she doesn't like mess around and she
- 12:50Speaker 2: doesn't just like talk crap like if she's saying it,
- 12:52Speaker 2: it's probably like there's probably some truth to it. So,
- 12:56Speaker 2: you know, my my dad he took his took his
- 12:59Speaker 2: mom very seriously. He was pretty scared of her, like
- 13:01Speaker 2: he saw her doing some weird, weird, weird like things
- 13:05Speaker 2: with like black magic and making objects move and stuff.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And yeah, dude, like he didn't want to cross his mom.
- 13:13Speaker 2: I mean he was like he was kind of like
- 13:15Speaker 2: under her thumb for a long time. And then when
- 13:18Speaker 2: he got married, uh to my mother. She was a
- 13:23Speaker 2: lot younger than him. Surprised, But that's how they do
- 13:25Speaker 2: it over there. And uh, I guess we speculated that
- 13:30Speaker 2: he got involved in some clandestine smuggling operations and the
- 13:34Speaker 2: people behind it were affiliated with the American government, and
- 13:39Speaker 2: that's how he was able to that's how he was
- 13:41Speaker 2: able to get all of us over there over here
- 13:43Speaker 2: to America. Yeah. Yeah, And I speculate also that's why
- 13:48Speaker 2: I grew up with an uncle in foster care who
- 13:51Speaker 2: was CIA and stuff. You know. I mean I think
- 13:53Speaker 2: he was a Yeah, I think he was a minder.
- 13:55Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, dude, Like, I can't make this shit
- 13:57Speaker 2: up if I tried. Really cool, I had a huge
- 14:00Speaker 2: influence over me in my life. You know, he taught
- 14:03Speaker 2: me a lot of the things that I know, specifically
- 14:06Speaker 2: with like painting and carpentry and stuff like that. Like
- 14:08Speaker 2: that was like a way for us to bond. But
- 14:10Speaker 2: he was like a master carpenter and yeah, and you know,
- 14:14Speaker 2: he he oversaw, you know, a bunch of my martial
- 14:17Speaker 2: arts training and he trained me with like track and field.
- 14:21Speaker 2: So yeah, it's like it kind of even further makes
- 14:26Speaker 2: me think that, yeah, my dad was involved with people
- 14:28Speaker 2: that later were still like involved with us, you know.
- 14:33Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it's pretty pretty wild. So I don't
- 14:37Speaker 2: know if there's any truth to it. It's just the
- 14:41Speaker 2: you know, the the alignment thing, Like there are too
- 14:43Speaker 2: many coincidences, you know, for me to not consider it.
- 14:48Speaker 2: You know, I'm not sitting here. I don't go around
- 14:50Speaker 2: telling people like you know, I mean, he was definitely CIA.
- 14:53Speaker 2: I mean that was well known. He was one of
- 14:56Speaker 2: the people that was training the Monk people over there
- 14:59Speaker 2: in uh In uh during the Vietnam War. He was
- 15:03Speaker 2: one of the field officers in Wausa. He was one
- 15:06Speaker 2: of those guys. Yeah, yeah, that was my uncle. He
- 15:09Speaker 2: was one of those bad as CIA dudes training the
- 15:11Speaker 2: local boys over there to put up an offensive No, no, no, no.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Uh he's from Minnesota. He's a big, wiry, tall he
- 15:20Speaker 2: looks like the brownie man from the paper town. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
- 15:26Speaker 2: he looked like hardcore lumberjack dude, like you just look
- 15:29Speaker 2: at him. He wore the flannel button downs, the tight
- 15:32Speaker 2: jeans like this tall wiry.
- 15:36Speaker 1: So this area in which your grandmother was feeding this
- 15:39Speaker 1: thing whatever it is, the gin, the giant, is this
- 15:41Speaker 1: near Kandahar.
- 15:43Speaker 2: This is uh, this is like near their village someplace,
- 15:48Speaker 2: but I don't think it's that close. So yeah, it's
- 15:53Speaker 2: like it's it's like about it's like about the area,
- 15:56Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's it's in the vicinity.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Okay, what can you tell me about that? You can
- 16:00Speaker 1: either call it a myth or occurrence, so however you
- 16:04Speaker 1: want to, you know, go about it and look at it.
- 16:06Speaker 1: What can you tell me about that? I don't know
- 16:07Speaker 1: much about the Giant of Candar.
- 16:09Speaker 2: So essentially, I mean, in a nutshell long story short,
- 16:14Speaker 2: there were some US Special Forces that went missing in
- 16:20Speaker 2: a certain area in Condohar or outside of it or
- 16:24Speaker 2: near it, you know, and it was at this like
- 16:29Speaker 2: area where there was this cave. So there was I
- 16:31Speaker 2: guess a team sent in after them that came upon
- 16:35Speaker 2: a whole bunch of like carnage where they went missing,
- 16:39Speaker 2: like broken radios, like body parts stuff like that, and
- 16:42Speaker 2: then at it nowhere like you know, right out of
- 16:45Speaker 2: a comic book like this giant like of you know,
- 16:50Speaker 2: this giant red haired dude comes out with like a
- 16:53Speaker 2: fifteen or twelve foot pike or whatever, and you know,
- 16:56Speaker 2: impales the one guy and they like light it up
- 16:59Speaker 2: and they start shooting it all crazy and everyone's yelling
- 17:02Speaker 2: shoot for the face. And eventually eventually they take it down,
- 17:07Speaker 2: and I guess it's like Chinook Dauta there, you know,
- 17:10Speaker 2: like helicoptered out of there, and that's that's you know.
- 17:16Speaker 2: I think supposedly there's speculations that it went to like
- 17:19Speaker 2: Edwards Air Force Base or something like that. But I mean,
- 17:21Speaker 2: if you think about it, the you know have like
- 17:26Speaker 2: mineral mineral rights to like a diamond mine or a
- 17:29Speaker 2: gold mine. It's it's very valuable, well, the DNA footprint
- 17:33Speaker 2: of a creature like that, if they didn't already know
- 17:36Speaker 2: about it, which I think they probably did, they just
- 17:40Speaker 2: you know, there's like Pokemon, they just got to kind
- 17:42Speaker 2: of collect as many as they can because they need
- 17:44Speaker 2: more samples. I think they already know about these creatures.
- 17:47Speaker 2: I mean, think about its splation experiments, you know, make
- 17:53Speaker 2: some type of hybrid creatures and stuff, you know, But
- 17:55Speaker 2: I mean that would be my guess. Maybe they already
- 17:57Speaker 2: have that blueprint to make it themselves. I don't know.
- 18:01Speaker 2: If nothing else, they had to get rid of the
- 18:02Speaker 2: evidence and that's why they took it to that airbase.
- 18:04Speaker 2: But I would speculate that Edwards Air Force Base. Ah,
- 18:12Speaker 2: I'm not sure, because I outide of DC, I've been
- 18:16Speaker 2: on Andrew. I don't think it was Andrews from what
- 18:19Speaker 2: I heard in one of the YouTube videos, because I
- 18:22Speaker 2: watched a whole bunch of YouTube videos about this thing afterwards,
- 18:24Speaker 2: like after my dad told me the story. So anyway, yeah, yeah,
- 18:28Speaker 2: so so my dad. So this is pretty much all
- 18:34Speaker 2: the stuff my dad told me. And the whole reason
- 18:36Speaker 2: he told me this story was because I saw a
- 18:39Speaker 2: YouTube video back when I worked at Park City Mall
- 18:42Speaker 2: in Lancaster, Pennsylvania in like twenty ten. I was working
- 18:45Speaker 2: out of Kiosk in the middle of the mall and
- 18:47Speaker 2: I was just effing around on YouTube and I found
- 18:50Speaker 2: a video about Conda har and a giant and I
- 18:53Speaker 2: thought it was like some like I don't know, fan
- 18:56Speaker 2: fiction or something. I thought maybe it was like some
- 18:59Speaker 2: you know that is something to yeah, yeah, creepypasta something
- 19:02Speaker 2: like that. You know, some like narrated story. I was like,
- 19:04Speaker 2: all right, you know, I put on my headphones and
- 19:06Speaker 2: I was like, all right, let's see what this is about.
- 19:08Speaker 2: And here it's actually like a legit encounter that the
- 19:12Speaker 2: US Special Forces had with a cryptid that was in Afghanistan,
- 19:16Speaker 2: that lived in a cave and all that. So I
- 19:18Speaker 2: went home and some time later I asked my dad
- 19:21Speaker 2: about it. And he was still alive at the time.
- 19:23Speaker 2: He died in twenty thirteen, and I asked I told
- 19:27Speaker 2: him about the YouTube video and he just kind of
- 19:30Speaker 2: looked at me and was like, wait, what are you
- 19:32Speaker 2: serious And then he told me the story, like no, shit,
- 19:36Speaker 2: really bad, Okay, that's cool, and he told me that.
- 19:43Speaker 2: Shortly after nine to eleven happened, some people came to
- 19:48Speaker 2: see him from the government and they were asking him
- 19:51Speaker 2: about his involvement with anyone from his old country. You
- 19:56Speaker 2: know whatever, I mean, you're that's probably should be part
- 20:01Speaker 2: for the course, honestly, I mean, you should expect that,
- 20:04Speaker 2: and he did. He cooperated. Whatever he didn't, he didn't
- 20:06Speaker 2: really care. At the end of the day, he thought
- 20:10Speaker 2: that they were going to ask him about his encounters
- 20:12Speaker 2: at that cave. When he was a kid. He thought
- 20:14Speaker 2: that that's what they came to ask him about. Because
- 20:17Speaker 2: he hadn't been to Afghanistan forever. He doesn't talk to
- 20:20Speaker 2: his friends, his family, none of it, like, none of
- 20:23Speaker 2: that over there really, So I mean he he knew
- 20:26Speaker 2: that the government knew that. Why are they coming up
- 20:29Speaker 2: talking to him, right?
- 20:31Speaker 3: I mean they've had they've had months, They've had months
- 20:36Speaker 3: and months to monitor his phone calls and his whereabouts
- 20:39Speaker 3: and his activities after nine to eleven, Now they're coming
- 20:42Speaker 3: and asking him all these things that they already probably.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Know the answers to. So he's sitting there thinking, like
- 20:47Speaker 2: they're curious about something else. Was telling you this? No, No,
- 20:54Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think I don't. I mean we
- 20:58Speaker 2: both had cell phones at the time, so I guess
- 21:00Speaker 2: they could have hurt us, you know, if you think
- 21:01Speaker 2: about us. But just but no, I don't, I don't think. No,
- 21:04Speaker 2: he wasn't. He wasn't getting at anything like that. No, no, no,
- 21:08Speaker 2: but yeah, so he he was a little bit I
- 21:13Speaker 2: guess kind of U shipping a brick. They showed up,
- 21:17Speaker 2: so he kind of had to keep his composure. And
- 21:22Speaker 2: I hope that they didn't ask about that, which they
- 21:24Speaker 2: did not. I don't even know if that. I don't
- 21:26Speaker 2: even know if that had occurred yet, if the whole
- 21:30Speaker 2: you know, the US Special Forces. I don't think he
- 21:34Speaker 2: was the only one. I don't think he was the
- 21:36Speaker 2: only one. That they were doing that too. But I
- 21:40Speaker 2: could go further into that, but I would be digressing
- 21:42Speaker 2: too hard from the top.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So I just want to hear you a little bit
- 21:46Speaker 1: of a thought about these you were talking about. You know,
- 21:48Speaker 1: when they take these things and they you know, they
- 21:50Speaker 1: want to have the you know, the DNA markers or
- 21:53Speaker 1: the genetic material.
- 21:54Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 21:56Speaker 1: What do you what do you you said that they're
- 21:57Speaker 1: making hybrids? Do you think that maybe, like, for example,
- 22:00Speaker 1: because I think I think the Bigfoot is actually something
- 22:02Speaker 1: that's already existed, kind of like giant, But yeah, these
- 22:06Speaker 1: dog men, do you do you think that possibly it
- 22:08Speaker 1: could be doing something of that nature too.
- 22:14Speaker 2: I guess it's possible. I mean, as far as the
- 22:17Speaker 2: dog man stuff goes, I don't know too much about that.
- 22:21Speaker 2: I always kind of thought that that werewolf stuff was like,
- 22:25Speaker 2: you know, kind of like the vampire stuff. But that's
- 22:29Speaker 2: what it sounds like it is to me. It sounds
- 22:30Speaker 2: like it's a werewolf, but not someone that not something
- 22:33Speaker 2: that turns back into a man. It's just kind of
- 22:36Speaker 2: a permanent werewolf. So that's that's kind of how a
- 22:40Speaker 2: likeen yeah, a liking Yeah, there you go. But from
- 22:43Speaker 2: what I understand, Tartaria had them, and they have their
- 22:46Speaker 2: own land beyond the ice wall. Oh and apparently there
- 22:53Speaker 2: apparently apparently apparently they're Christians too, like they're they're one
- 22:57Speaker 2: of them was like a saint, like saint, like I
- 23:00Speaker 2: don't even know, like one of them was a saint.
- 23:03Speaker 2: So well, you never know, man.
- 23:05Speaker 1: You know, I've been here because I talk to people
- 23:07Speaker 1: about it, and some people say, there's ones that are
- 23:11Speaker 1: like a hyena faced one, and there's ones that look
- 23:14Speaker 1: like a regular like like a big, big ass German shepherd,
- 23:18Speaker 1: and yeah, that look like a dog of sorts, but
- 23:21Speaker 1: it's weird shaped and what. I don't know which ones which,
- 23:25Speaker 1: but some of them like kind of just walk with
- 23:28Speaker 1: just appear out of, you know, out of nowhere, and
- 23:31Speaker 1: then just go back in again. And then there's ones
- 23:33Speaker 1: not like that of that are maybe they're saying the
- 23:36Speaker 1: government is making these things, and then those are hyper
- 23:39Speaker 1: aggressive ones and yeah, people think like, oh, why would
- 23:42Speaker 1: they release that on the on the on the American population?
- 23:45Speaker 2: What do you think there's why not?
- 23:46Speaker 1: There's deer ticks are what do you think those?
- 23:49Speaker 2: Uh?
- 23:49Speaker 1: What what are these ones?
- 23:50Speaker 2: That?
- 23:51Speaker 1: The lone star tick? They make you not eat meat?
- 23:54Speaker 2: Yeah, they give you they give you the uh yeah
- 23:57Speaker 2: yeah yeah, lone Star texts been genetically modified for what
- 24:00Speaker 2: I've heard the same thing with some same thing with
- 24:04Speaker 2: ticks with Plumb Island. You know the town of Lyme
- 24:06Speaker 2: and Maine, I believe it is. That's where they get yeah, yeah,
- 24:12Speaker 2: oh yeah, Plum Island.
- 24:14Speaker 1: We're just we're gonna have a good time on this man,
- 24:16Speaker 1: you and are going to be on air. I have
- 24:19Speaker 1: to give I don't know about.
- 24:21Speaker 2: That, man. I think I'm just I think I'm just
- 24:23Speaker 2: a blabbermouth.
- 24:25Speaker 1: That's probably why your book got you know, you got
- 24:27Speaker 1: the cur there and you Yeah, so like you were
- 24:34Speaker 1: telling me.
- 24:35Speaker 2: Rest and peace, brother, rest in peace. Your legacy will
- 24:37Speaker 2: live on.
- 24:39Speaker 1: The ability to talk to people M whether you disagree
- 24:43Speaker 1: with him or not. M. That's the whole thing. Well,
- 24:47Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. We have to make sure that
- 24:48Speaker 1: we have to revamp the concept of understanding that We
- 24:52Speaker 1: have to talk with people even if we disagree with them,
- 24:55Speaker 1: and not just shut down. They don't have the conversation
- 24:57Speaker 1: because you don't agree with it. And I think that's
- 25:00Speaker 1: intentional because it used to be that way.
- 25:03Speaker 2: Remember, that's censorship. It's just censorship. Everyone's trying to censor
- 25:08Speaker 2: each other.
- 25:09Speaker 1: I mean, it's a form of manipulation. It's outright control.
- 25:14Speaker 2: Man. It's just some people. They want you like this.
- 25:19Speaker 1: They want me to not like you because you're from Afghanistan,
- 25:21Speaker 1: although you are my brother, and you not like me
- 25:23Speaker 1: because I'm American although different I'm saying, woman, although I
- 25:27Speaker 1: am an American.
- 25:28Speaker 2: So it's like enough enough what I do. Of course
- 25:37Speaker 2: you are.
- 25:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about you know, class fighting, in fighting, religious, race, yeah, status,
- 25:45Speaker 1: whatever it is. If we can't sit down and talk,
- 25:48Speaker 1: then we've lost it all.
- 25:50Speaker 2: So well, that's that's the direction that's been going. It's
- 25:54Speaker 2: it's it's sad, but it's already here.
- 25:58Speaker 1: So I think I think we're I think we're opressive
- 26:00Speaker 1: us of knowing this because you can see I think
- 26:03Speaker 1: because I know kind of where you are. But I
- 26:05Speaker 1: think the the machine, for lack of a better term,
- 26:09Speaker 1: wants that because if you're fighting with each other and
- 26:12Speaker 1: as they keep going to the bank, enslaving you is
- 26:15Speaker 1: what they want. They want you to go. What's that
- 26:17Speaker 1: over there? In the meantime, do over here doing something else?
- 26:20Speaker 1: Things like actually make you vote for things that are
- 26:22Speaker 1: against your interest.
- 26:23Speaker 2: How do they do?
- 26:24Speaker 1: That's manipulation, Yeah, And that's what we are at the end.
- 26:28Speaker 1: We are manipulable. That's what we really are in the end.
- 26:32Speaker 1: So we have to be aware of that. Therefore, you know,
- 26:36Speaker 1: I've been manipulated, of course. You know, we've all we've
- 26:39Speaker 1: been relationships with women and women with men, and you
- 26:43Speaker 1: know how that can happen on that small scale, Now
- 26:45Speaker 1: imagine a lot of scale. Yeah, yeah, sorry, man, I'm
- 26:50Speaker 1: over here talking with you.
- 26:51Speaker 4: Should be No, no, no, no, no, no no, it's
- 26:55Speaker 4: just uh, the last one really really really just opened
- 27:02Speaker 4: my eyes, Like I mean, I already knew the deal.
- 27:05Speaker 2: But man, when you when you fly halfway across the
- 27:10Speaker 2: world to find out someone is an avoidant, that is
- 27:13Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Between the lines of that one, you're gonna have to
- 27:19Speaker 1: write me in the shadow now.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll talk more about that later. But but yeah,
- 27:26Speaker 2: I mean, for those out there. Who know, if you're
- 27:28Speaker 2: in a long distance relationship with someone who has an
- 27:31Speaker 2: avoidant attachment style, Oh yeah, you're you are you are
- 27:37Speaker 2: in for a world world of pain anyway. So yeah,
- 27:43Speaker 2: yeah he's damn I mean that. No, you're good.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Yeah, you were telling me about Okay, we'll can go
- 27:49Speaker 1: into that because you were like at that, what's happening?
- 27:52Speaker 1: You were talking about something that you've seen in the sky. Yeah, dude,
- 27:58Speaker 1: I want for both instances.
- 28:05Speaker 2: All right. Man. So good friend of mine is a
- 28:10Speaker 2: is now medically retired from the Philadelphia Police Department, and uh,
- 28:15Speaker 2: he's really really cool guy. It's like my brother. I've
- 28:19Speaker 2: known him a little while and we used to used
- 28:21Speaker 2: to arm wrestle with each other. I'm sorry, we used
- 28:24Speaker 2: to be on the same arm wrestling team. I used
- 28:25Speaker 2: to arm wrestle. Yeah, yeah, I was. I was no, no,
- 28:33Speaker 2: it was it was just it was just no. But
- 28:36Speaker 2: my buddy does my I have a Russian friend who
- 28:39Speaker 2: who drives the truck and he has like that whole
- 28:42Speaker 2: like stillone setup. It's awesome your hand yeah yeah yeah,
- 28:47Speaker 2: he's pronation and stuff. Anyway. Yeah, so, uh he I
- 28:53Speaker 2: met him through arm wrestling, you know, we used to
- 28:55Speaker 2: show up at the practice that was around here. This
- 28:58Speaker 2: was like five years ago, and eventually we started hanging out.
- 29:02Speaker 2: And he's a big weightlifter, pretty well known. I won't
- 29:07Speaker 2: go into you know who he is. He likes his privacy.
- 29:10Speaker 2: So anyway out in Missouri, he wants to pick up
- 29:15Speaker 2: this these weights, okay, these weights. He wants me to
- 29:19Speaker 2: restore them for him. I said, okay, no problem, I
- 29:21Speaker 2: can do that, you know, grind them all down to
- 29:23Speaker 2: bare steel and make them original. Okay. Cool. So we
- 29:28Speaker 2: drive out there, and on the way out there, we
- 29:33Speaker 2: see something, okay, and what we see is about the
- 29:38Speaker 2: size of the sun or the moon, and it moved,
- 29:41Speaker 2: It moved so incredibly quick through the sky. My friend
- 29:45Speaker 2: and I were on Interstate. I can't remember if it's
- 29:49Speaker 2: fifty six or fifty seven. I want to say it's
- 29:51Speaker 2: fifty seven. This is nighttime. This is nighttime. Yeah, yeah,
- 29:56Speaker 2: this is like between nine and ten PM, I believe.
- 30:01Speaker 2: And we're driving, driving, driving, and we're bumping to music,
- 30:05Speaker 2: you know, we're listening to my playlist that I made
- 30:08Speaker 2: for the road trip. We've been driving eighteen hours. We've
- 30:12Speaker 2: got three or four hours to go. Left We're going
- 30:15Speaker 2: to Port Girardo there in Missouri, and Port Girardo is
- 30:22Speaker 2: pretty much where the eclipse from twenty seventeen and from
- 30:26Speaker 2: twenty twenty four intersected. Okay. Yeah, so we're going there
- 30:32Speaker 2: and right by there we see this thing in the sky.
- 30:35Speaker 2: And we didn't just see this thing. We connected with
- 30:38Speaker 2: this thing. Okay. And when I say connected, I mean
- 30:42Speaker 2: me and my friend at once saw it. There was
- 30:44Speaker 2: like a tractor trailer in front of us, and there
- 30:46Speaker 2: was a pickup truck pulling a fifth wheel like motor home.
- 30:50Speaker 2: It was like one of those trail trailer motorhomes. It was. Yeah.
- 30:54Speaker 2: So they were in front of us, and we were
- 30:56Speaker 2: in a Penske box truck like a U haul van basically,
- 30:59Speaker 2: but you know, the big yellow one, and we're going
- 31:02Speaker 2: down the hill. It's pitch black. If you've ever been
- 31:05Speaker 2: out there at nighttime driving, there's no one for like
- 31:08Speaker 2: ten miles. It's rural. It's in the middle of nowhere.
- 31:12Speaker 2: And where this happened was in a place called kin
- 31:16Speaker 2: Mundy in very very lower Illinois, near the border of Missouri. Yeah.
- 31:23Speaker 2: So we're like two or three hours from our destination
- 31:26Speaker 2: and in very lower Illinois is where we've seen this.
- 31:30Speaker 2: So we saw this thing right away. My friend's like, holy,
- 31:35Speaker 2: you know, he's freaked out. I'm like staring at that
- 31:40Speaker 2: spot where we saw the thing. I'm fumbling for my
- 31:42Speaker 2: bluetooth speaker. I finally like hit it, and he pulls
- 31:47Speaker 2: over and we start freaking out. Our whole our bodies
- 31:50Speaker 2: are drenched in sweat. Within like a couple of minutes, like,
- 31:54Speaker 2: we're drenched in sweat. I went to grab my cell
- 31:57Speaker 2: phone and it was really really hot, like it was hot.
- 32:00Speaker 1: So watching watching her. This is kim Mundy, Illinois. This
- 32:04Speaker 1: is where you've seen this.
- 32:05Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kim Mundy, Illinois. Now now, now show me.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Is that fifty six or fifty seven? The highway? Seven
- 32:12Speaker 2: fifty seven? Okay? Okay, I keep I keep missing, I
- 32:15Speaker 2: keep mixing that up. I don't know why. But yeah,
- 32:17Speaker 2: we're we're driving through kim Mundy.
- 32:19Speaker 1: There, about an hour or so outside of Saint Louis.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Okay, I got you, Yeah, yeah, yeah, we weren't far
- 32:26Speaker 2: from our destination. So we're driving, we pull over, we're
- 32:31Speaker 2: freaking out. My cell phone's on fire, not literally, but
- 32:35Speaker 2: it's really hot. His cell phone's really hot. And we
- 32:37Speaker 2: both start crying. We're both grown men, dude. And my
- 32:41Speaker 2: buddy's a cop arm wrestlers all that, you know. I mean,
- 32:45Speaker 2: he's a really I mean he's he's a tougher dude
- 32:47Speaker 2: than me. Uh, stronger dude, tougher. He's been through some
- 32:50Speaker 2: crazy scenarios with his job, like that'll harden anyone like nails. Yeah,
- 32:56Speaker 2: it's good, buddy. And he he's crying over here, like
- 33:00Speaker 2: a sobbing like a baby, just like me. And we're
- 33:02Speaker 2: looking at each other and we just can't believe what
- 33:04Speaker 2: we just experienced. And out of nowhere, I start getting
- 33:10Speaker 2: like messages in my head and stuff, dude. And this
- 33:13Speaker 2: is something I didn't really go into in the other
- 33:17Speaker 2: in the other interviews, but I'm gonna go into it here.
- 33:23Speaker 2: I got contacted by something. Okay, something crawled in my
- 33:26Speaker 2: fucking brain, dude. And when I say it crawled in
- 33:28Speaker 2: my brain, imagine not being able to escape from something
- 33:34Speaker 2: inside of your mind. Like, just imagine that for a moment.
- 33:38Speaker 2: Imagine that it's like an intruder coming in your house
- 33:43Speaker 2: and you can't run from them. I mean, I live
- 33:45Speaker 2: in a one bedroom apartment. I can't hide from anyone
- 33:48Speaker 2: if they decide to come in here and accost me.
- 33:50Speaker 2: You know what I mean, it's kind of like that.
- 33:52Speaker 2: It's almost like something crawled in your brain and enslaved it.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Wow.
- 33:58Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's almost like because I've been doing kung
- 34:01Speaker 2: fu for a long time, it's almost like the same.
- 34:06Speaker 1: But it was physical with him.
- 34:08Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this this was physical as well, but really
- 34:11Speaker 2: like yeah, oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, yeah, this was absolutely physical.
- 34:16Speaker 2: I was hunched over. My friend said, this was going
- 34:18Speaker 2: on for ten minutes where I was talking to whatever
- 34:20Speaker 2: the hell this thing was, So it only felt like
- 34:24Speaker 2: two minutes to me. So right there, I had missing time.
- 34:27Speaker 2: I mean, now I don't know if that's a perception thing.
- 34:30Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what missing time is. But
- 34:33Speaker 2: it only felt like I was talking to it for
- 34:35Speaker 2: like two minutes. And my friend said, no, dude, I
- 34:37Speaker 2: was driving for like ten or fifteen minutes and you
- 34:39Speaker 2: were just sitting there talking to this whatever the hell is.
- 34:42Speaker 2: You were like talking to yourself, but you would you
- 34:46Speaker 2: would like you would repeat what it said to you
- 34:49Speaker 2: out loud. And I was, yeah, I pretty much do
- 34:54Speaker 2: you have that dialogue? Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely absolutely.
- 34:58Speaker 1: Uh.
- 34:59Speaker 2: They sure so I got this feeling where it feels
- 35:04Speaker 2: like your head is it feels like your brain is
- 35:07Speaker 2: being cheese grated while you feel not here but feel
- 35:11Speaker 2: static from like an old television mixed with like a
- 35:16Speaker 2: grinding blender sound. And every time this thing talked, that's
- 35:20Speaker 2: what I felt and heard.
- 35:21Speaker 5: Oh, so it's like all of the neurons, all the
- 35:26Speaker 5: little synapses in my brain just like we're just going
- 35:31Speaker 5: in ballistic, going overload.
- 35:33Speaker 2: Because I don't think human beings are supposed to interact
- 35:35Speaker 2: with whatever the hell this thing is or these things are.
- 35:40Speaker 2: I personally think that they are fallen angels. I don't
- 35:43Speaker 2: think they're aliens. I don't think that's what I think.
- 35:49Speaker 2: I think those things from the Bible. I think this
- 35:51Speaker 2: is what I was talking to. People out there might
- 35:55Speaker 2: think I'm crazy. I really don't care. I spoke to.
- 36:00Speaker 2: I spoke to a guy named David Altman. So my
- 36:03Speaker 2: good friend Terry Carter, shout out Terry. Check out his
- 36:06Speaker 2: YouTube channel Terry Carter's Treasure Hunting channel on youtubeard He
- 36:12Speaker 2: hooked me up with a guy named David Altman, who
- 36:15Speaker 2: is a ufoologist and has been making documentaries and all
- 36:18Speaker 2: this stuff. I didn't even know who this guy was.
- 36:20Speaker 2: But after hearing my story, h Terry put me in
- 36:24Speaker 2: touch with him. And this guy said he's heard hundreds
- 36:26Speaker 2: of these stories, hundreds of the same exact stories that
- 36:30Speaker 2: I was describing to him over the over the years.
- 36:33Speaker 2: What was just saying? Right this, I pretty much said,
- 36:38Speaker 2: who are you? And what do you want? Like funk off?
- 36:42Speaker 2: Like what is this? Like? This is this is harassment?
- 36:46Speaker 2: Like if there was such a thing as if there
- 36:49Speaker 2: was such a thing as harassment on everything I love, dude,
- 36:52Speaker 2: it is this Like, you know, somebody stealing your you know,
- 36:55Speaker 2: spoofing your Instagram is nothing. So it told me that
- 37:02Speaker 2: we've been watching you your whole life. And this is
- 37:04Speaker 2: another thing that Dave Aman said is that these things
- 37:08Speaker 2: they single you out, making you think that you're like special,
- 37:11Speaker 2: so that you trust them and all that. Like they
- 37:13Speaker 2: come in the guicet of like we're your friends, and
- 37:16Speaker 2: it's like scary, Like if you're my friend, I shouldn't
- 37:19Speaker 2: feel all this dread and all this fear. That's not
- 37:22Speaker 2: that's not normal. I mean, come on, man.
- 37:25Speaker 1: So she was like she was on the ship or
- 37:31Speaker 1: in these underground bases and they were like they come
- 37:34Speaker 1: at you with this like, oh, I'm your friend.
- 37:36Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, dude, you ain't my friend doing something?
- 37:40Speaker 1: Yeah that's crazy man, Oh my goodness.
- 37:44Speaker 2: Okay, all right, no, no, it's it's it's cool. I
- 37:49Speaker 2: mean I think I'm good. Like before when I told
- 37:52Speaker 2: the story, I would get emotional. Now I'm just kind
- 37:54Speaker 2: of like Thos's just like kind of make see a
- 38:00Speaker 2: little bit upset that they're able to have that kind
- 38:02Speaker 2: of control over you, you know. But yeah, like pretty much.
- 38:08Speaker 2: They said that they've been watching me my whole wife,
- 38:11Speaker 2: and I've interacted with them in person, like physically, and
- 38:14Speaker 2: I was like, what do you want? Who are you?
- 38:16Speaker 2: Why are you watching me? Like that's that's creepy. That's creepy.
- 38:20Speaker 2: You know. I was like, you know, I'm sitting there
- 38:24Speaker 2: thinking like did I run into pedophiles when I was
- 38:26Speaker 2: a kid and didn't know it? And here they were
- 38:28Speaker 2: these aliens Like I don't know, dude, I have no
- 38:32Speaker 2: idea where it was Tim Ballard when you needed them?
- 38:35Speaker 2: So yeah, sound of freedom man. Crazy anyway, So sorry, dude, Yeah,
- 38:46Speaker 2: bump that out of there. I'm sorry, I got it.
- 38:50Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, good that, but you know, you live in
- 38:55Speaker 1: such a free world in which you can't say this
- 38:57Speaker 1: kind of thing, but yeah, we're better than China. Yeah yeah,
- 39:00Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Things that make you go hmm. So yeah. So I'm
- 39:10Speaker 2: having this dialogue with this thing. My friend's driving. He's
- 39:13Speaker 2: freaking out, and he told me, like, when I came
- 39:15Speaker 2: out of this like trance or whatever I was in,
- 39:17Speaker 2: he told me. He's like, bro, that was some of
- 39:19Speaker 2: the way. He's like, I've I've I've walked in on
- 39:22Speaker 2: the nastiest, weirdest like crime scenes. I've seen satanic ship
- 39:27Speaker 2: with crime scenes. He's like, this was on another level.
- 39:30Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know what the fuck to think.
- 39:31Speaker 2: He's like I almost want to kick you out of
- 39:33Speaker 2: the fucking car, Like I almost like push you out, dude,
- 39:37Speaker 2: Like that was weird. You're freaking me out, like knock
- 39:39Speaker 2: it off, you know, And I'm like, sorry, man, like
- 39:42Speaker 2: I just had a conversation with something. I don't think
- 39:45Speaker 2: it's human. I couldn't escape it. He's like, yeah, I
- 39:49Speaker 2: heard it, man, He's like I heard all of it,
- 39:51Speaker 2: Like what the Like, what the f what what is
- 39:54Speaker 2: this man? What is going on right now?
- 39:57Speaker 1: Like okay, just a kind of but in soo much.
- 40:00Speaker 1: But to give you a little bit of something else.
- 40:03Speaker 1: I was talking to a gentleman. His name is Neil
- 40:05Speaker 1: Ballast and he's a he's a what are people that
- 40:07Speaker 1: could dream and make themselves aware that they're dreaming?
- 40:11Speaker 2: What do they call that?
- 40:13Speaker 1: The word is escaping me right now, Like where you
- 40:15Speaker 1: touched the wall? Is this real kind of thing? And
- 40:18Speaker 1: then you want to fly?
- 40:19Speaker 2: Whatever? Where is it people are? I don't know. I've
- 40:21Speaker 2: had I've had that a million times. I mean, I'm
- 40:23Speaker 2: sure a lot of people have.
- 40:24Speaker 1: It's very good at this, He's very good. It's something
- 40:27Speaker 1: something dreaming. You guys are yelling at the scream but
- 40:29Speaker 1: I'm sorry. But anyway you can do that.
- 40:31Speaker 2: He can do that.
- 40:32Speaker 1: And in these dreams you have complete and ultimate control. Right,
- 40:36Speaker 1: So so he was like, Okay, I want to be
- 40:39Speaker 1: in a room. Boom, he's in a building, break the window,
- 40:41Speaker 1: go flying. On this one occasion, his friend's father, who
- 40:45Speaker 1: was basically his father growing up because his father wasn't there,
- 40:48Speaker 1: had passed away, and the father came to them and
- 40:51Speaker 1: this is like a week later, two weeks later, and
- 40:53Speaker 1: he came to and he said, I got I got
- 40:54Speaker 1: something to tell you. He goes, no, I don't want
- 40:56Speaker 1: to deal with this street, now block him out. He goes,
- 40:59Speaker 1: you can't do that. Here he goes, this is the
- 41:02Speaker 1: this is the story I want you to tell my son. Okay, okay, okay,
- 41:06Speaker 1: that's crazy.
- 41:06Speaker 2: Leaves.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Two weeks month later, his friend's leaving to go overseas. Hey, man,
- 41:10Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell you this, but your your father.
- 41:13Speaker 1: He goes, well, let me guess he came to in
- 41:15Speaker 1: a dream and told you that everything is fine where
- 41:18Speaker 1: he's going. He can't talk to you anymore, but at
- 41:21Speaker 1: the same time, and everything is going to be okay.
- 41:25Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah. He goes, where'd you hear that?
- 41:26Speaker 1: My mother told me this, and my sister told me this.
- 41:29Speaker 1: And another time an alien grabbed him because he was
- 41:31Speaker 1: shooting at these rockets in the sky, said don't do that,
- 41:34Speaker 1: and it came and rocked him and punched him in
- 41:36Speaker 1: a chest and knocked him out of lucid dreaming, knocked
- 41:39Speaker 1: him out of his lucid dream, woke up with a
- 41:41Speaker 1: sore chest. So I'm saying, there's something in there where
- 41:45Speaker 1: they can get into your head and actually make you
- 41:48Speaker 1: like aware that they're there and make you say you
- 41:51Speaker 1: need to listen to me. So that's the third of currents.
- 41:54Speaker 1: I've heard it in different ways. I just want to
- 41:57Speaker 1: kind of bring that up. I'm sorry. It was just
- 41:59Speaker 1: it came to my head and I had to get.
- 42:00Speaker 2: It out there. That's that's that's fun.
- 42:02Speaker 1: That is terrifying.
- 42:03Speaker 2: Then that was That was easily the That was easily
- 42:08Speaker 2: the most dreadful, terrifying, As you just said, moment of
- 42:11Speaker 2: my entire life was when I was when I was
- 42:15Speaker 2: interacting with whatever this thing was. Second Yeah, yeah, but
- 42:21Speaker 2: but I'm telling you, like my friend even said it, like,
- 42:24Speaker 2: we connected with it, like when when when when it
- 42:27Speaker 2: went when it whizzed by in the sky. I don't
- 42:30Speaker 2: think the people in front of us seen it. I
- 42:32Speaker 2: don't even think they noticed it. They might have thought
- 42:33Speaker 2: it was like, I don't know, like a quick lightning
- 42:36Speaker 2: flash or something like, you know, but me and my
- 42:40Speaker 2: friend saw it, and we we connected with it.
- 42:44Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a dude. Damn didn't you bring it
- 42:48Speaker 1: up on somebody. There's another guy I was talking to.
- 42:49Speaker 1: This was a year and a half ago, and he
- 42:51Speaker 1: was he was he was what the hell was he
- 42:53Speaker 1: he was logging in the Sierra Nevadas and he seen
- 42:56Speaker 1: this white dot go across the sky and his friends
- 42:58Speaker 1: are like like, hey, you see that. Yeah, and he
- 43:00Speaker 1: looked that thing within not even it moved so fast
- 43:05Speaker 1: that it went like trump trump Trent, like it skipped time,
- 43:08Speaker 1: looked at it and then buzzed off. Two weeks later,
- 43:11Speaker 1: is at a concert as detailed like for like security.
- 43:13Speaker 1: There was these two people in the kitchen but almost
- 43:15Speaker 1: supposed to be in there, two large northern European people.
- 43:20Speaker 1: They look very the Nordics as we know them. They're like, yeah,
- 43:24Speaker 1: we've been watching you. We know that you saw us,
- 43:26Speaker 1: and we don't want nobody, don't want you to tell
- 43:28Speaker 1: anybody about this, and then just walk the funk off.
- 43:33Speaker 1: And he was like, I don't know what that was,
- 43:34Speaker 1: but I had seen this, dude. So there's and you
- 43:38Speaker 1: also get this thing with I always saying, yeah, we
- 43:40Speaker 1: have to protect the earth. That's another one that always
- 43:42Speaker 1: seems to come out probably probably.
- 43:45Speaker 2: Well, yeah, this this is the part where you know,
- 43:50Speaker 2: I usually it's it's a little hard not to get emotional,
- 43:53Speaker 2: but you know, hair goes. So I asked who they
- 43:57Speaker 2: were when I was talking to them, and they basically
- 43:59Speaker 2: said they were the Pladians. Uh and yeah, real dude,
- 44:05Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. They told me that they were Pladians, and
- 44:08Speaker 2: I thought that that was very I thought that was
- 44:10Speaker 2: a little bit too specific because at the time, uh my,
- 44:16Speaker 2: my Instagram name was Pladian starchild. Oh my god, dude,
- 44:22Speaker 2: and I thought maybe that was like a psychological thing,
- 44:25Speaker 2: that that whatever this entity was was trying to like
- 44:29Speaker 2: manipulate my mind into thinking that it was my friend
- 44:32Speaker 2: by telling me, oh, we're Pladians. So that made me think, like,
- 44:36Speaker 2: all right, if I'm scared, you're telling me your Pladian's.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Pladians are supposed to be like good and peaceful and
- 44:41Speaker 2: all that like. But here's here's the deal. This could
- 44:45Speaker 2: have been the Pladians. I don't know, it very well
- 44:48Speaker 2: could have been them, and I'm just a pussy.
- 44:57Speaker 1: How can you do your hearing grinding noises in your mind?
- 45:01Speaker 2: I know, listen, listen. I know it's scary, it's terrifying. Okay, whatever,
- 45:07Speaker 2: that's fine. But maybe there's someone out there that would
- 45:11Speaker 2: not have had this reaction. I don't know. But when
- 45:14Speaker 2: I asked them, why are you telling me this and
- 45:17Speaker 2: not my friend? They told me that you are able
- 45:20Speaker 2: to handle this, like physically, emotionally, mentally, everything in your
- 45:27Speaker 2: life that you've gone through, you're able to handle this,
- 45:30Speaker 2: like the your stress response, your response to stressful situations
- 45:37Speaker 2: and all that, your resilience, all that. It was like
- 45:41Speaker 2: I was getting these like it was like, well, that's
- 45:46Speaker 2: what they said. They said him and me had some
- 45:48Speaker 2: type of like cosmic bond. That was their words, not mine.
- 45:51Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell that's about, but they
- 45:53Speaker 2: said that. Yeah, they've been watching my buddy too. Yeah. Yeah,
- 45:57Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. Like a lot of this could
- 45:59Speaker 2: have been. It could have just been a bunch of
- 46:01Speaker 2: bs that they were spoon feeding me in order to
- 46:04Speaker 2: like enslave my brain or legitimate I was thinking all
- 46:10Speaker 2: I was thinking all kinds of stuff, man. I mean,
- 46:13Speaker 2: when when it feels like something is joint locking your
- 46:15Speaker 2: brain into submission, you're thinking all kinds of stuff. You're thinking,
- 46:19Speaker 2: this is not my friend, this person does not this
- 46:22Speaker 2: whoever this is, they do not have my best interest
- 46:24Speaker 2: in mind.
- 46:24Speaker 1: What a great analogy joint locking trying to put you
- 46:27Speaker 1: into submission that you would tap out.
- 46:29Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it was like you know, and if you
- 46:31Speaker 2: didn't listen, it just like applied more pressure and you
- 46:33Speaker 2: feel like your bone's going to snap. But it feel yeah, dude,
- 46:37Speaker 2: it's like you feel like your brain's going to snap.
- 46:39Speaker 2: It was. It was the most messed up thing in
- 46:40Speaker 2: the world. It was like I felt like a rape
- 46:43Speaker 2: victim afterwards. You might have to block that word.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Out to the word sorry sorry.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Yeah, see all right, all right, I'll have I felt
- 46:54Speaker 2: like I felt like something forced itself on me, and
- 46:57Speaker 2: I felt like a.
- 46:58Speaker 1: Lot of those cut it out then.
- 47:01Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, cool, cool, Cool that that
- 47:04Speaker 2: shows I'm still not you know, those are on Spotify.
- 47:08Speaker 2: You get to hear these words. There you go, there
- 47:12Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, so what's going on? It was the
- 47:17Speaker 2: most screwed up thing in the world. So we're driving, driving, driving,
- 47:20Speaker 2: Now he's all disheveled. I'm all disheveled, and I just
- 47:23Speaker 2: had like some type of contact with some nasty, filthy
- 47:28Speaker 2: thing that made any demonic or satanic type movie or
- 47:34Speaker 2: ritual look like a walk in the park. I mean, now,
- 47:37Speaker 2: I look at all that satanic stuff all the now,
- 47:40Speaker 2: I'm like, that's nothing. That's not scary, that's not creepy.
- 47:45Speaker 2: You guys don't know what scary and creepy is, Like,
- 47:49Speaker 2: like the thing we saw in the sky made the
- 47:51Speaker 2: most advanced aircraft carrier, the most advanced jet fighter submarine
- 47:56Speaker 2: made them look like toys in a sandbox, dude, Like,
- 48:00Speaker 2: I don't know if that was a living thing we
- 48:02Speaker 2: saw or some type of technology, or maybe it was
- 48:05Speaker 2: a living technology. Uh maybe it was something that went
- 48:09Speaker 2: and came through CERN and there was another version of
- 48:12Speaker 2: CERN near where we were. I don't know, man, Like
- 48:16Speaker 2: it was, it makes your it makes your it makes
- 48:19Speaker 2: your mind run wild, like yeah.
- 48:21Speaker 1: When I when I see when I saw, when I
- 48:22Speaker 1: saw that, when I had the politic guys in Connor,
- 48:24Speaker 1: when I was a kid, man when I dude, it's
- 48:26Speaker 1: it's you feel yeah old and something slamming the door
- 48:30Speaker 1: in your face and yeah, man, it's not right. Yeah
- 48:33Speaker 1: it's weird. And like my girlfriend loves like horror movies
- 48:36Speaker 1: like these are so scary and we won't watch, like
- 48:38Speaker 1: you know, like nukes Top five were to show you,
- 48:41Speaker 1: like the videos and and things. I enjoyed the real
- 48:44Speaker 1: stuff because I have experienced the real stuff, you know,
- 48:47Speaker 1: and so anything you see in Hollywood, I don't know
- 48:49Speaker 1: if it was the ring or whatever. There's it's nothing
- 48:52Speaker 1: like nothing. It's not even close nothing one.
- 48:55Speaker 2: One, it's not even no. No, you were.
- 49:00Speaker 1: Saying that recently you saw something again.
- 49:05Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, let me finish the story. The story
- 49:08Speaker 2: is pretty crazy. Yeah sorry anyway, sorry, So I had
- 49:15Speaker 2: this encounter with this thing. My buddy's driving. We're all disheveled.
- 49:18Speaker 2: We still got like a little bit of the drive left.
- 49:21Speaker 2: We get to an area that they call Little Egypt.
- 49:25Speaker 2: There's a town called Caro, There's a town called Thebes.
- 49:29Speaker 2: There's a town called I think it's like uh sphinks
- 49:34Speaker 2: something spinks, I forget, but it's they called that area. Yeah,
- 49:40Speaker 2: Memphis is right there, you know. I think I think
- 49:43Speaker 2: there's like a Memphis around there. I believe, I'm not sure,
- 49:46Speaker 2: but they called that area a little Egypt, right outside
- 49:49Speaker 2: of Port Girarda. And that is where that solstice happened
- 49:55Speaker 2: on April eighth of twenty twenty four. Where where where
- 50:00Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen, the eclipse went from Washington State, I think,
- 50:05Speaker 2: down to like Florida or something. It went that trajectory,
- 50:08Speaker 2: and then the other one came from like Mexico up
- 50:11Speaker 2: to like Canada. Yes, and it formed yeah, and it
- 50:15Speaker 2: formed an X right over where we were. Okay. So
- 50:18Speaker 2: we get to that bridge right there, crossing into Port
- 50:22Speaker 2: Girardo over the Mississippi River. It is completely shut down
- 50:27Speaker 2: by like fifty police officers. They unalived a man on
- 50:32Speaker 2: that bridge in his car, okay, because he had unalived
- 50:39Speaker 2: a cop in Chicago earlier that day or a day
- 50:43Speaker 2: or two prior, I'm not sure. They caught up to
- 50:45Speaker 2: homeboy and they iced him. Okay, okay, And.
- 50:49Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you something that just popped in my head.
- 50:51Speaker 1: So I want you to I want you to hear
- 50:52Speaker 1: your thoughts on it.
- 50:53Speaker 2: Okay.
- 50:54Speaker 1: Not only not only did those two things X, but
- 50:56Speaker 1: do you also see where the thirty third parallel runs through?
- 50:59Speaker 2: My friend?
- 51:01Speaker 1: You see, oh wow, that is like right there, dude.
- 51:05Speaker 2: Wow.
- 51:07Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what Port Girvardo is, but that
- 51:09Speaker 1: whole area you're talking about, dude, it is right there.
- 51:13Speaker 1: There's Saint Louis right there. It runs basically through Saint Louis.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Well, they call that UFO Alley, I think, yeah, right, yeah, okay,
- 51:24Speaker 2: So not.
- 51:24Speaker 1: Only do you have these two crossings of the of
- 51:27Speaker 1: the of the of the eclipse, but you also have
- 51:29Speaker 1: the thirty third parallel and the names of the town.
- 51:31Speaker 1: This is a lot of little that's an interesting Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 51:34Speaker 1: put on our radar, for lack of a better word.
- 51:37Speaker 2: There you go. So this bridge is closed, there's a
- 51:40Speaker 2: bunch of cops on it. We use the GPS, like
- 51:43Speaker 2: you know, map, Google maps whatever to get around, and
- 51:47Speaker 2: we think that we're being slick here. We come onto
- 51:50Speaker 2: the bridge and we have this big yellow box truck
- 51:53Speaker 2: in the middle of like fifty cop cars and for
- 51:56Speaker 2: ten minutes, nobody comes up and says any thing to us.
- 52:01Speaker 2: And my buddy, who's a cop retired, he's like, we
- 52:06Speaker 2: could be anyone, like we could. These guys are e's
- 52:11Speaker 2: and apologies to all the cops out there. And they
- 52:14Speaker 2: were actually really they were actually really nice. They were
- 52:16Speaker 2: really cool cops, those guys. Because they did eventually come
- 52:20Speaker 2: up and talk to us, we told them, hey, we're
- 52:22Speaker 2: trying to get over. My buddy showed them as badge.
- 52:24Speaker 2: They had their little cop like camaraderie real quick, you know,
- 52:27Speaker 2: like they talked for like ten minutes, but he basically said,
- 52:32Speaker 2: you shall on that pass. You got to turn the
- 52:33Speaker 2: hell around. We know that there's a gas station and
- 52:37Speaker 2: we could let you cross, but it's a crime scene
- 52:39Speaker 2: and you're a cop, so you know this. So you
- 52:42Speaker 2: gotta go back, and you gotta double two hours down
- 52:45Speaker 2: the river to cross. Well, we didn't have enough gas,
- 52:48Speaker 2: so we had to shack up right there at a
- 52:52Speaker 2: in a parking lot where there's this big statue of
- 52:55Speaker 2: like a goose or a duck, and it was like
- 52:58Speaker 2: an egg farm. It was like an egg farmer and
- 53:00Speaker 2: like an egg pasture or something for like chickens and stuff.
- 53:03Speaker 2: And my buddy I give him like my camping saw.
- 53:06Speaker 2: I have my little Survival nine. And we're like thinking,
- 53:09Speaker 2: this UFO is coming back.
- 53:10Speaker 3: Man.
- 53:10Speaker 2: We're scared. We're like freaked out, man. So we wait
- 53:15Speaker 2: a couple hours. We drive to the Turkey Hill near
- 53:18Speaker 2: there for some gas. Finally when it opens up at
- 53:20Speaker 2: five am, and I talked to the clerk and the
- 53:23Speaker 2: clerk says, yeah, there's UFO sightings around here all the time.
- 53:26Speaker 2: Because I told him what we saw. I told him
- 53:28Speaker 2: we were from back East and you know, we're seeing
- 53:31Speaker 2: some weird stuff. Eighteen from back East. Yeah, there you go,
- 53:39Speaker 2: I know, right, And so I said to him, hey,
- 53:42Speaker 2: do you guys see like UFOs and stuff around here.
- 53:44Speaker 2: He's like, oh, every once in a while, he said
- 53:46Speaker 2: it just like that, and I was like, oh, no,
- 53:49Speaker 2: that means all the time. Mean yeah. Well it was
- 53:53Speaker 2: even more creepy when I was walking out and his David,
- 53:58Speaker 2: the gnome looking self, was like looking at his coworker
- 54:01Speaker 2: while talking, but then looking at me constantly too, and
- 54:04Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, these townfolk knows something, you
- 54:08Speaker 2: know what I mean. It felt like children on the corn.
- 54:10Speaker 2: It was terrible. I was like, ahh, so, yeah, it
- 54:15Speaker 2: was creepy, man. So then we go pick up my
- 54:18Speaker 2: buddy's weights in the morning after we stay at the airbnb.
- 54:21Speaker 2: He can't get a refund whatever. He's a little bit like,
- 54:24Speaker 2: you know, ah whatever, We pick up the weights, tell
- 54:28Speaker 2: the people the story. They're like, oh, you don't say
- 54:30Speaker 2: that's crazy. Goodbye. So now we're driving back home, and
- 54:34Speaker 2: every time I look at something, I start getting visions
- 54:37Speaker 2: of it being dismantled, like schematic charts. So now I
- 54:41Speaker 2: have this weird thing in my brain where I can't
- 54:46Speaker 2: look at something without seeing it all dissected. Yeah, that
- 54:50Speaker 2: reminds me that and that happened for like you know
- 54:54Speaker 2: what it reminded You know what it reminded me of
- 54:57Speaker 2: is that movie Akira, the Japanese animation Kira where that
- 55:01Speaker 2: kids where that guy Tetsuo In the movie he has
- 55:04Speaker 2: a bike crash with the little psychic kid and now
- 55:07Speaker 2: suddenly he has these psychic abilities and when he looks
- 55:10Speaker 2: at something, it like he can dissect it with his brain. Well,
- 55:13Speaker 2: this is what was going on with me, and that
- 55:15Speaker 2: led me to believe that must be predictive programming. Maybe
- 55:18Speaker 2: the government powers that be movie producers, all these people
- 55:21Speaker 2: in these secret societies, they know that these abilities exist
- 55:25Speaker 2: and they put them in movies and stuff. So when
- 55:28Speaker 2: I was experiencing this stuff, I started getting all emotional
- 55:31Speaker 2: and my buddy's like, why are you crying? And I said, dude,
- 55:33Speaker 2: and I explained it to him. He's like, I hate
- 55:36Speaker 2: this trip. That's that's all he said. He's like, bro,
- 55:39Speaker 2: I'm over it. I'm done. Like are you good to drive?
- 55:42Speaker 3: Man?
- 55:42Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm good to drive. I just
- 55:43Speaker 2: don't want to drive into like oh yeah, it's.
- 55:47Speaker 1: Like I want to drive into infinity or to the
- 55:50Speaker 1: God is right now.
- 55:53Speaker 2: Yeah. I really had to keep it together, Like.
- 55:55Speaker 1: Any DNT that like they'll like something a picture breakdown
- 56:02Speaker 1: and then it'll break into infinity, into the numbers and
- 56:05Speaker 1: all that. So it kind of gives me that vibe too.
- 56:08Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, that's I'm coming from that area. Like
- 56:13Speaker 1: you know, I read a lot about psychedelics and what
- 56:16Speaker 1: that does and how it can change your mind and
- 56:19Speaker 1: make you either make you sane or make you insane.
- 56:23Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, depending on I mean, depending on what you
- 56:25Speaker 2: do while you're hallucinating. It re orders your It rewires
- 56:30Speaker 2: and re orders your nervous system. So yeah, just for all,
- 56:36Speaker 2: for for all those out there who want to learn
- 56:37Speaker 2: a physical skill in record time. If you do it tripping,
- 56:41Speaker 2: I mean, you're going to learn it infinitely faster than
- 56:45Speaker 2: if you weren't I.
- 56:47Speaker 1: Mean or not, because you know, we don't. We don't
- 56:49Speaker 1: condone that here.
- 56:50Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we don't, not at all, not at all,
- 56:54Speaker 2: not not at all. No.
- 56:57Speaker 1: I have to do all the little tricks and stuff. Dude,
- 56:59Speaker 1: is ridiculous. But yeah, okay, and okay, so that's uh,
- 57:03Speaker 1: that's messed up.
- 57:05Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Let's going to finish this up with what happened to you?
- 57:11Speaker 2: Yeah, So two weeks ago I'm walking from the gas
- 57:15Speaker 2: station right by my house. I went over there to
- 57:17Speaker 2: get some pineapple juice and some you know, sweet chili doritos,
- 57:21Speaker 2: cause you know, sometimes you get cravings for dunk food.
- 57:26Speaker 2: And so I'm walking back and I see that blue
- 57:31Speaker 2: orb that me and my buddy saw in kin Mundy.
- 57:34Speaker 2: I see it streak across the sky and I stopped
- 57:39Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, but there were people around
- 57:43Speaker 2: me and nobody saw it. So the one dude he
- 57:45Speaker 2: was walking, I I, you know, one of my neighbors.
- 57:48Speaker 2: I live in an apartment complex and one of my neighbors.
- 57:51Speaker 2: I was like, yo, bro, did you just see that?
- 57:52Speaker 2: And he's like, what what are you talking about? And
- 57:54Speaker 2: he was looking in that direction. So I'm like, what's
- 57:58Speaker 2: going on here? Like, you didn't just see that blue
- 58:00Speaker 2: like asteroid like cloud craft looking thing just streaked through
- 58:05Speaker 2: the sky like a lightning bolt. He's like no, He's like,
- 58:09Speaker 2: but I'm going to look out for it now. He said, okay, no,
- 58:13Speaker 2: And I was freaked out for like five minutes. But
- 58:16Speaker 2: this time when I saw it, I didn't like connect
- 58:19Speaker 2: with it or whatever. So I don't think, uh, I
- 58:24Speaker 2: don't think it was like a big deal. But I
- 58:26Speaker 2: definitely saw it, and that guy facing the same direction
- 58:31Speaker 2: didn't see it. I mean, how could you not see it?
- 58:33Speaker 2: Half half of your field of vision is sky. I
- 58:36Speaker 2: mean you're outside, so how do you not see that?
- 58:40Speaker 2: That can happen.
- 58:41Speaker 1: There's been people who take like, you know, like share
- 58:43Speaker 1: it psychdelic experiences. This is, like I said, this is
- 58:45Speaker 1: my input, is that you know, there'll be two people
- 58:49Speaker 1: seeing something. You see that, yeah, and he'll see two
- 58:52Speaker 1: different things, or they can be looking in the same
- 58:55Speaker 1: place and one person won't see it and the other
- 58:57Speaker 1: person will. I was talking to the Arizona four guys. Yeah,
- 59:00Speaker 1: I've seen the big foot in front of him. The
- 59:02Speaker 1: other one said it's step and then it took a
- 59:04Speaker 1: step over. He didn't see it anymore. He goes, I
- 59:06Speaker 1: don't see it. He goes, I still do, and he goes, really, yeah,
- 59:09Speaker 1: it's right there in front of us, and he goes,
- 59:11Speaker 1: what are you talking about? He steps over into his
- 59:13Speaker 1: field of view and then he could see it again.
- 59:15Speaker 2: That's interesting.
- 59:17Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I'm trying to tie up ends in I
- 59:20Speaker 1: guess the most unscientific way possible. But nonetheless, it's just
- 59:24Speaker 1: it's all fascinating, and I don't think there's.
- 59:27Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of stuff to be left
- 59:29Speaker 2: up to speculation. That's the problem. And there's no like concrete,
- 59:32Speaker 2: Like it's just feelings. You get vibes, yeah, maybe deductive reasoning,
- 59:39Speaker 2: but nothing ever like concrete. It's hard except for what
- 59:44Speaker 2: you see. You know, if you see it, that's different,
- 59:46Speaker 2: like you can't Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very hard. Yeah.
- 59:50Speaker 1: Man, this has been a blast and we're gonna definitely
- 59:52Speaker 1: do this again, of course. Man, can you tell me
- 59:54Speaker 1: one more time where they can find your books?
- 59:57Speaker 2: My books? Well, my book is The Encyclopedia of Conspiracy Theories,
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: a factbook of a hidden volume one. You can find
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: it on Amazon. Fantastic.
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