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From Joe Piscopo Show Intern to Alabama Sportscaster of the Year, Max Cohan Continues to Have One Leg Up in Media 4-11-25 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garren.
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  Speaker 2: This name. If you're in the New York area and
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  Speaker 2: listen to am Ninsen and the answer and know the
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  Speaker 2: intern history of the Joe Piscopo Show might ring a bell.
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  Speaker 2: Max Cohen is on my line on the one Log
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  Speaker 2: Up Network. Max. Great to reconnect with you.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Alex. I appreciate you having me on here.
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  Speaker 2: You are about eight years later we're talking here and
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  Speaker 2: now you're a sportscaster of the year in Alabama. Can
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  Speaker 2: we start there please? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: It's a little bit different than being an intern for
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  Speaker 3: Joe Piscopos, that's a fact.
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  Speaker 1: But we were just talking.
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  Speaker 3: About, you know, me and Joe Sibilia doing our post
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  Speaker 3: Piscopos shows that we did on Facebook Live years ago.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know that there's any real correlation between
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  Speaker 3: the two.
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  Speaker 1: But this is what I've.
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  Speaker 3: Always wanted to do, and with piscopol I got my
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  Speaker 3: foot in the door in the industry. And here I am.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know as a as a kid who
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  Speaker 2: lived in New York, right, You're an island or city.
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  Speaker 1: Kid, born in the city, raised in Rockland.
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  Speaker 2: County up sacke Well was a kid from up here.
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  Speaker 2: How did you end up in out Auburn and Alabama?
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  Speaker 2: Let's start there.
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  Speaker 3: So I was at Syracuse, I interned on the Piscopo Show,
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  Speaker 3: and then when I graduated, moved out to Idaho. Spent
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  Speaker 3: two years reporting out there, and then in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: started looking for sports jobs. And it was pre pandemic,
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  Speaker 3: nothing had gotten crazy yet, and I saw the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to cover Auburn and Alabama. I applied here and I've
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  Speaker 3: been here ever since.
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  Speaker 2: And what I mean, the iron Ball every year is exciting.
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  Speaker 2: And you must have been there or was that a
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  Speaker 2: little before you? Because I had that huge the year
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  Speaker 2: Borrow beat Bama, then Auburn Babama. You were about a
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  Speaker 2: year after that, I think, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was right before I got here.
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  Speaker 2: But you have seen some exciting games at the iron Ball,
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  Speaker 2: haven't you.
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  Speaker 3: My first Iron Bowl that I ever attended was the
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  Speaker 3: quadruple overtime one. That was the one where Alabama was
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  Speaker 3: down with fifty seconds on the clock and Bright Young
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  Speaker 3: led them on that drive and then eventually won it
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  Speaker 3: in overtime. That was insane. And then two years after
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  Speaker 3: that was the fourth and thirty one Grave Digger Milroe miracle.
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  Speaker 3: And I was standing about five feet from where that
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  Speaker 3: touchdown pass came down.
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  Speaker 2: And you put that on video on your ex account,
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  Speaker 2: didn't you?
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely did. I mean, when you get a shot
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  Speaker 3: that good, you got to share it with the people.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, all right. I gotta ask this because it seems
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  Speaker 2: like you're very involved with Auburn. You were in the
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  Speaker 2: Final four stages with them, and byway, Bruce Pearl is
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  Speaker 2: an awesome guy I hear, and whatnot? Do you become
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  Speaker 2: more of a fan and less of a journalist or
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  Speaker 2: how do you keep that fine line.
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  Speaker 3: I've tried to remain not a fan of any of
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  Speaker 3: the teams I cover, because I think it allows me
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  Speaker 3: to be the most fair and unbiased if I don't
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  Speaker 3: have a vested interest. No, I will say, obviously, you're
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  Speaker 3: usually enjoying covering a win more than a loss, so
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  Speaker 3: there are some things that go one way or the
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  Speaker 3: other with that. But I try and remain removed from
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  Speaker 3: having any connection to the team. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: you know, when you're at the Final four, you're thinking, man,
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  Speaker 3: i'd really like to cover a national championship game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, And you know what that was? A wild game.
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  Speaker 2: But Florida, Hey, I guess if you're on that side,
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  Speaker 2: you want to lose the champion, I guess, And that's
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  Speaker 2: how it worked out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and not just lost to them once, they lost
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  Speaker 1: to them twice.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess if they're looking at anything and they're
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  Speaker 3: seeing the two losses on the record, well two of
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  Speaker 3: them came to the team that won the National championship.
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  Speaker 2: One guy that stood out though most of the tournament
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  Speaker 2: was Johnny Broom. Did you get the doctor chance a
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  Speaker 2: chance talk to him at all over the season? What's
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  Speaker 2: he like?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: So, Jen I's been here I think three years. When
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  Speaker 3: he came in. I didn't know much about him, but
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  Speaker 3: he really established himself immediately. Unbelievable guy. And I was
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  Speaker 3: in the locker room right after the loss. This is
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  Speaker 3: a guy that absolutely hates losing. He was in a
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  Speaker 3: terrible mood and you can't blame him im and just
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  Speaker 3: lost a chance at playing for the national championship. But
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  Speaker 3: if you watched any of his run during the tournament,
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  Speaker 3: just the guy who was not willing to quit at
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  Speaker 3: any point and was going to find a way to
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  Speaker 3: make the most ridiculous shots hit the bottom of the net.
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  Speaker 2: All right. You know, Auburn is one of the scores
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  Speaker 2: that predeminitantly is defined by football. But what's it like
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  Speaker 2: to see the basketball team do well at the same time.
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  Speaker 3: It's been crazy, to be honest with you, because when
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  Speaker 3: I came down here, they were just coming off their
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  Speaker 3: first ever Final four run, and I thought, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: that's probably an anomaly. They'll probably be good, But another
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  Speaker 3: Final Four, I didn't think that was possible. And then
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  Speaker 3: I got here and there was a period where they
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  Speaker 3: had two lottery picks at the same time. They had
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  Speaker 3: Walker Kessler and Jabari Smith, both of who are making
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  Speaker 3: a name for themselves in the NBA right now. And
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  Speaker 3: once I saw that they were bringing those guys in
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  Speaker 3: after the Final Four, I said, all right, they might
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  Speaker 3: be doing something special. Little did I know Alabama would
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  Speaker 3: also be right behind them. But it's been crazy because
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  Speaker 3: for a long time the SEC was all football, and
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  Speaker 3: then you had Kentucky basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's just because Alabama also had a
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  Speaker 2: bit of a run this year too in basketball. But
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  Speaker 2: have you been up to Alabama, you know, to the
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  Speaker 2: Crimson Tis Well, have you covered games there also?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I cover both. It's pretty much fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 3: You know, another great program right now that's recruiting some
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  Speaker 3: really great talent. Obviously their football is a little bit
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  Speaker 3: ahead of where auburns is. But things are different now
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  Speaker 3: that Nick Saban's gone. Although it does seem like Kaylin
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  Speaker 3: de Borr is trying to win people over, it's tough.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Bryce Young you mentioned it, I want to
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  Speaker 2: go back to him for a second, really promising, and
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  Speaker 2: then it just sort of like fell up. What was
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  Speaker 2: did he not just well do you think I mean
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  Speaker 2: you did talk to him when he went in Alabama?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, when he was at Alabama, I mean, super confident
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  Speaker 3: and obviously he had great pieces around him and a
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  Speaker 3: great system. I don't know if we've seen the last
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  Speaker 3: of him.
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  Speaker 1: I think, you know, it might not be.
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  Speaker 3: The best situation to get drafted into, and he's had
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  Speaker 3: to deal with a lot, but the guy's got lots
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  Speaker 3: and lots of talent. He can scramble, he can throw,
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  Speaker 3: he can find a way out of a sack and
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  Speaker 3: make it a twenty yard game.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him do it countless times.
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  Speaker 3: And as we just mentioned, with that quadruple overtime Auburn
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  Speaker 3: Alabama game, I mean the guy's clutch, so it just
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  Speaker 3: takes a little bit of time. I'm sure anybody who's
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  Speaker 3: played in the NFL will tell you the NFL's world's
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  Speaker 3: different than college.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And on the Auburn side, I mean, look, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: your coach Tommy tullerb will going to senate. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Auburn always seems to be in the news one way
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  Speaker 2: or the other.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say that. I mean he's still showing
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  Speaker 3: up at some of the games. I saw him on
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  Speaker 3: the sidelines a couple of times this year, and he
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  Speaker 3: took a picture with Nick Saban somewhere recently, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so obviously, even though they used to be rivals, they're
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  Speaker 3: still in communication.
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  Speaker 2: Talk about the alumni part, because obviously Alabama and Auburn
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  Speaker 2: I stem alumni that come back. Do you ever get
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  Speaker 2: to talk to those.
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  Speaker 1: Guys every now and then?
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's guys like Charles Barkley and Bo Jackson
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  Speaker 3: that show up at all.
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  Speaker 2: Barkley during the tournament, you saw every reaction from him, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, some of them do not hide their allegiance to
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  Speaker 3: the university. I'd say the coolest alumni I got to
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  Speaker 3: talk to was actually on the Alabama side homecoming maybe
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  Speaker 3: two years ago. I got to have a little chat
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  Speaker 3: with Joe Namath on the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: It's very cool. Yeah, and of course name it a
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  Speaker 2: legend down there and up here, you know, of course
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  Speaker 2: free But I got to ask you about the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned them. I believe I saw fifteen. Is it
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  Speaker 2: fifteen teams that made from the SEC in basketball or
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  Speaker 2: I believe it was fourteen, which was the most ever
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  Speaker 2: for any conference. And why is that? I feel like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, conferences up here, like the Big East and
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  Speaker 2: all that, should be more invested in how many teams
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  Speaker 2: make it. Did the SEC do some kind of evaluation
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  Speaker 2: as to how to improve the basketball programs or what
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  Speaker 2: went down there?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's such a great question.
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  Speaker 3: I think part of it was adding Oklahoma and Texas,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know if that's necessarily why they had
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  Speaker 3: as many teams as they did. Now the conference is
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  Speaker 3: bigger than it was two years ago. But at the
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  Speaker 3: same time, I think there's been a concerted effort among
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  Speaker 3: the conference teams to say, all right, we've done what
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  Speaker 3: we've done in football, but we can do more in basketball.
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  Speaker 3: And I think they're bringing in better coaches also, having
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  Speaker 3: this name, image and likeness things.
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  Speaker 2: All il right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, it's a game changer that in the transfer portal
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  Speaker 3: they can get players that they wouldn't have been able
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  Speaker 3: to get in the past and keep them in some cases.
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  Speaker 2: Now remind me of Tennessee's and the SEC I need
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  Speaker 2: a reminder on that. But today we just saw the
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  Speaker 2: kid not show up because of NIL negotiations. As a
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  Speaker 2: sports fan, I'm sure we're both concerned that that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be destroying the sport more than helping if that's
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  Speaker 2: the case, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Nico is a super talented quarterback and
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  Speaker 3: there's a reason that he's trying to demand that money
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  Speaker 3: because he thinks he's worth it. And it is crazy
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  Speaker 3: that we're at a stage where a college player can say, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I might be attending this university right now, but if
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  Speaker 3: you're not paying me the amount of money I want,
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  Speaker 3: I'll go play at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: I'll go play at Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember Ohio State was willing to throw the
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  Speaker 2: kitchen sink the kitchen sink at Marvin Harrison Junior. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I knew. Boy, O boy, We're in a different era,
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  Speaker 2: and I you know, I also think This tournament though,
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  Speaker 2: for basketball, showed the reinvention of two coaches. Okay, cap
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  Speaker 2: with Arkansas and and Bruce per because Bruce had that
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  Speaker 2: legendary career kind of went off and now he's back
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  Speaker 2: on the seat again.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely been wild, especially with coach cal because
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  Speaker 3: of the fact that nobody knew what he was really
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  Speaker 3: doing when he left Kentucky. You're like, okay, Arkansas, are
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  Speaker 3: you sure? And then he goes in, they go on
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  Speaker 3: this run, they take down Saint John's. It's two former
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky head coaches going against each other. And I think
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people, especially if anybody made a bracket,
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  Speaker 3: most times you're taking Saint John's over Arkansas in that
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  Speaker 3: I sure did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, most people did.
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  Speaker 3: And I think coach Calb proved he knows what he's
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  Speaker 3: doing and he's here to put together a winner at Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: And actually I Kansas being Arkansas, so he really made
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a run there from the beginning. To
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  Speaker 2: knock on Bill Sealth, all right, it sounds to me
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  Speaker 2: you've got a knowledge of the SEC. Is that just
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  Speaker 2: because you've been around the league now for a long
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  Speaker 2: time or what?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so I mean, I wasn't so invested
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  Speaker 3: in it before I got down here, but once you're
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  Speaker 3: down here, you kind of have to focus on it.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost all you talk about. You're running too somewhere
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  Speaker 3: at the grocery store, they want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, don't forget SEC baseball is also amazing on
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  Speaker 3: top of everything else. So it's just fun because it
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  Speaker 3: really is a conference just full of winning, and it's
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  Speaker 3: fun to see a team come into town and you go,
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  Speaker 3: all right, well this was a good game, and then
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  Speaker 3: that team goes on to win the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: It's just fun.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, Alabama. Everybody thinks of it like, well,
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  Speaker 2: there's only two college towns and what else is there
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  Speaker 2: to do? But how have you found You found yourself
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  Speaker 2: pretty busy in these college towns. What do you do
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  Speaker 2: when you're not covering these teams?
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  Speaker 1: Relaxing a lot?
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  Speaker 3: I do a lot of relaxing. I work long hours,
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  Speaker 3: but there's a lot of stuff to do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you catch UFL games because I think they're
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  Speaker 2: still down in Birmingham, right the Stallions are still down here.
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  Speaker 3: I have not been to a game, but I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's a little odd with that because the
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  Speaker 3: games are going on, but those stadiums.
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  Speaker 1: Are never full.
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  Speaker 3: Then the weird thing is Birmingham's the best team in
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  Speaker 3: the league, and they have been for the couple of
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  Speaker 3: years that that league's been around. But it doesn't seem
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  Speaker 3: like the spring football things really catching on, to be
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  Speaker 3: honest with yet.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's tough to get although the TV ratings seem
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  Speaker 2: to be doing okay. But you know, I get what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying also, And it's also warm. Now is it
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  Speaker 2: warm down there for football or is.
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  Speaker 1: It what it is? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I think we're hovering around the high sixties, low seventies,
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  Speaker 3: and you know you'll get an occasional rain storm and
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  Speaker 3: some lower temperatures, but it's already pretty warm down.
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  Speaker 2: Here, all right. Do you feel the ghosts of the
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  Speaker 2: sec especially when it comes to Auburn And I want
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  Speaker 2: to mention Bear Brian in Alabama because when you go
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  Speaker 2: to these teams, do you feel sort of that presence
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  Speaker 2: of these legends there?
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  Speaker 3: You know there is something about Auburn and like Alabama
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  Speaker 3: fans say that all the time. They think it's cursed
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  Speaker 3: because bad things happen to them every time they have
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  Speaker 3: to play Auburn at Jordenhair Stadium, But I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if so many of the places really have those ghost
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  Speaker 3: I will say something, you know, something is different at
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  Speaker 3: Jordan here, whether it's the crowd, whether it's the way
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  Speaker 3: the energy comes off of the student section.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean I've been to a number of the stadiums.
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  Speaker 3: I would say that one has the most interesting field
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  Speaker 3: to me, But that's just my all right.
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  Speaker 2: Any out of conference, I'm talking like next door got
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  Speaker 2: Duke in North Carolina up the road a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Do you do you ever get to cover those games
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  Speaker 2: or wish you could cover those games as well? Or
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  Speaker 2: are you pretty limited to the SEC?
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  Speaker 1: I would say I usually stick to the SEC for
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  Speaker 1: the things I'm covering that are in the state, But
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  Speaker 1: if there's a game where Alabama or Auburn is playing
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  Speaker 1: one of those teams in a big event, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I will go out.
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  Speaker 3: I covered Alabama baseball in the what was it Winston Salem?
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  Speaker 3: They played wake Forest a couple of years ago, and
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  Speaker 3: the winner of that one went on to advance to
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  Speaker 3: the College World Series. Wake Forest beat them real bad,
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  Speaker 3: but it was cool to get to see that part
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  Speaker 3: of North Carolina and experience a new stadium. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean every now and then we get out of
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  Speaker 3: conference for a big event or something that's on the
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  Speaker 3: road to a championship.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, and so maybe you've been Have you been to
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  Speaker 2: Omaha for the College Round Series?
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  Speaker 1: Yet not for softball?
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  Speaker 2: Wait?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, for Omaha? Yes, I have been to. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that's so we're being up Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 3: I have been to Uh yeah, I went Auburn made
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  Speaker 3: it two or three years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you that's a wild, wild experience.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Let me tell you, as a Northern kid, every
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  Speaker 2: Southern game they put on TV, no matter the sport,
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  Speaker 2: always seemed like a wild town. So is it as advertised?
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  Speaker 2: Is it as college towns? He as? Ever, when you
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  Speaker 2: get to these.
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  Speaker 3: Game days, sometimes yes, not always, but there's always a
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  Speaker 3: couple people in the crowd where you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: I could see why this might be the one they
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  Speaker 3: feature on TV. This is the guy who's bringing that energy.
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  Speaker 3: He's got you know, a garbage can on fire, and
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  Speaker 3: he's grilling sausages on top of you know, there's always
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  Speaker 3: somebody that fits the description.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, you know you mentioned Saban and obviously he's transition
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  Speaker 2: into the TV world now. So when college game day
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  Speaker 2: comes to town, do you ever to cover that at all?
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  Speaker 3: Or Yeah, so we're able to go down to that,
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  Speaker 3: but usually it's not worth our time to go down
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  Speaker 3: to it because it requires getting to the stadium so
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  Speaker 3: much earlier than she really would and it's not like
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  Speaker 3: we get to interact with what's going on at the set.
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  Speaker 1: We just get to be around it.
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  Speaker 3: So I know that we've had people do it a
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  Speaker 3: couple of times, but I don't think most people are like, yeah,
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: I can't believe I got to do that. It wasn't
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: wasn't worth that time.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: All right, I gotta give you a little trivia here.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Do you know that I've covered wheelchair basketball over the
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: last few years and Alabama wheelchair basketball. I believe the
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: women's side just won the championship. I don't know if
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: you covered that kind of thing. But these teams are
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: leaning into the adaptive space as well.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: I have not covered that, but I do get tweets
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: all the time that say how good their adapted team is,
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: and it always blows my mind that they're like really
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: top of the top of the game.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: So who knows, maybe we'll see a segment on them
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: on your show. Now I will be possible in that
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: vein when you do your sports cast, is it strictly
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: all right? Let me do our game recap? Is it
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: human interest stories? What? What's what? What can we expect
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: when to watch you on TV?
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I try and get in a mix of everything I can.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: You know, obviously there will be times where there it's
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: just a straight up game recap. But I like to
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: try and find the stories with the players. You know,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: give you a perfect example. We have a minor league
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: baseball team here, the Rocket City trash Pan Is they're
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: the Double A affiliate of the Angels.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Sure they have a prospect.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Last year was off to a great start, slid into
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: second base in a game in May, broke his fibula
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: and dislocated his ankle.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Out for the season. Comes back this year.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Second game, third game, back hits for the first cycle
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: in team history. Like you know, Seco talk to him
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: about his recovery process and what it means, and he
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: got into how it was really the confidence booth that
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: he needed, and you know, it was cool stuff kind
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: of finding out some of the behind the scenes things.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Max. You're fairly youngs. So I feel like you probably
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: have a synergy with these guys who are still coming up,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: right and all that. Do you feel kind of on
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: that level of you know, hey, we're all coming up
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: together here.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: It does have that feel.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know that they view it the same way,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: because some of them feel like, all right, I'm going
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: to be in the majors next month, so it's.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: A little bit different. But I think they see it
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: You know, they all know we're all trying to achieve
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: the same thing, elevate ourselves, get to the next.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Level and make it. But I know that some of
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: them can do it much more quickly than I can.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you this because you mentioned
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: into the majors any draft prospects in Auburn or Alabama
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: that you could see right now for the NBA following
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: this final four.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so for sure Auburn has two. John I Broom
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: is absolutely one.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Is that Joe is that you Yep, yep, there is.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I can see it, all right, I'm good.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: So Auburn's got too, Jenni Broom is won. And then
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the other one is this freshman to Hod Pettiford, who
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: had an unbelievable tournament, didn't have the best game against Florida,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: but really had some huge moments.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It's not clear if.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: He's going to return to campus, but he doesn't, there's
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: a good chance he gets drafted.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: He's got a lot of potential.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: And then on the Alabama side, one of the guys
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: they'd been talking about is also a freshman's name is
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: la Baron Pylon. They had him as a lottery pick
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: early in the season, but he didn't quite produce up
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: to that level. Now some people are saying he's not
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: going to get drafted, he'll come back. And then the
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: other one is Mark Sears, who was unbelievable.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Not really clear where teams are viewing him.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: But he could be a guy that goes into the
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: NBA and just makes a ton of threes. So we'll
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: see if somebody takes a shot on him. But the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: guy can shoot. I mean, that's it's not up for debate,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I want to know this. When you were at the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Final four and when you go with the teams, are
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: you on the team bus or how do you guys
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: get to that or is there separation there?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a complete separation.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I think that there might be some actual team affiliated
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: media that gets to go on the team bus and
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: the team playing.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: But I'm taking my own, you know whatever.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Said that, Did you get a chance to stay after
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Auburn lost to watch Cooper flag or no?
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I did. I did get to stay.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I watched that game, and then I watched the National
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Championship game. I was there on Monday night for all
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: that madness, and uh yeah, I'm very fortunate to have
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: been able to stay for that.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Any fans that stand out to you that you've reported on, like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: oh my god, he was your ever game or she
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: was your ever game, but in any.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Of the sports, you know, I don't.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I didn't really spend too much time talking to fans
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: at this one, mostly because by the time the Auburn
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: game rolled around, they were out and all the Auburn
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: fans were already gone.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it was.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: It was a wild place, especially because they can sixty
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: thousand fans in there now run.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, did Auburn football make a bowl this year
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: or did they not? Because I don't remember if they
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: did or.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Not they did not this year.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Have you been able to cover a bowl game for
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: either team though in your in your time.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so not this last year because last year
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: they played Michigan and they were in Tampa, so we
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: didn't go to that one. But the year before that,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: they played Michigan in the Rose Bowl and I was
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: there for that and that was absolute insanity.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I mean that game went.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: To up by the way, Michigan was not really supposed
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: to beat Alabama this time around, I'm not.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: You're absolutely right they were not, and they did. You know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: they were down a couple man, a couple of starters,
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: and they still got it done on an ugly and
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: ugly and wet day in Florida.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: So that was not But you were at the Rose Bowl.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: But I just heard correctly, Am I right?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: That's correct?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: That is so cool to say you were at the
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Rose Bowl?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Right, It was nuts. That was definitely one of the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: cooler experiences I've had.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Now, maybe you know yourself, but media, no matter what town,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: whether it's Alabama or New York City, always going to
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: be tough. Have you seen media be really tough on
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: the you know, filling the shoes of Nick Saban? I mean,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: have you seen that toughness on the coach?
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: There have been people who have asked questions where you
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: can tell they're trying to almost be condescending because there's
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: a difference. But I think most people understand no one's
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: going to be Nick Saban, and this guy isn't a slouch.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: He had Washington in the National Championship Game. He's been
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: a winner everywhere he's coached, and I think they understand.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And he really brought up Pennick Junior, right, I mean,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that's right there.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think they understand he might not be
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: coach Saban, but it doesn't mean he can't win.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And you know what's interesting is I applauded Alabama for
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: making the ball the first year after Saban. I mean,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: they still made a ballgame people, you know, that's kind
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: of how I saw that.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they were on the verge of the college football playoffs.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Had they not gotten absolutely demolished by Oklahoma right at
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: the end of the season, they would have been in,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: you know, over teams like SMU and maybe, I mean,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: who knows.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: But Oklahoma, Now let's go to them. And also, my
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: dad's hometown was Oklahoma, by the way, so the home
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: state with Olhaoma, So of course I follow them a
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: little closer than normal. But the softball team, did you
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: get to cover them because you've been on the sec
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: circuit and I believe it was a forty nine to zero.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Run they had there right, So they were on an
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: unbelievable run. I mean just insanity, like it was unstoppable.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know how you kind of compete with that,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: but yeah, they were unreal. But back to Oklahoma. Oklahoma's quarterback,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: the one that beat Alabama, is now at Auburn Jackson.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Arnold and the transfer portal there you go that that's
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: an example of transfer portal, which in il A a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: while ago. But transfer portal is becoming bad for the sport.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's becoming too wide ranging here.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I think there need to be restrictions put in place.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: It's at a point where you're getting guys going from
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: one school to the rival school. I mean, perfect example,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Aiden Holloway, who was at Auburn is now at Alabama
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: on the basketball team. I mean, that just would not
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: have happened before the transfer portal and nil.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's crazy how much turnover there is every year.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It's just insane. It's you almost don't even know how
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: many teams the guy's going to play for before he
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: graduates or leaves. It's it's out of hand.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: I think, all right, you're a northern guy, right, You've
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: been born a Pierre, You're a city kid. Did you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: have a best interest in Saint John's though, I mean
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: talk about that. Did you watch it from Afar?
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Definitely watched from Afar. Definitely was interested to see what
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Patino was going to do. And obviously a program like
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: that who hadn't really done much in so long, you're
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: hoping that a guy like that can come in and
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: put together a winner. So it was awesome to see,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: you know, New York City have a team that was really, really,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: really good. Unfortunate end, but you know, Patina still got
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: named Coach of the Year, so he's got a lot
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: of stuff going for him.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I think they're still going to be good.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I have excitement. You know, I lived
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: half a mile from Saint John's, so I'm a natural
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Saint John's kid. Have you been up to New York though,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: because obviously these Southern teams don't come up to New
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: York as much. But have you been up here to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: cover a game?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: You know, I haven't. I probably should have. In a
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: normal year, Alabama played their basketball games in Newark, so
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: that would have been a good opportunity. We couldn't swing
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: that grip financially, but in a normal year, I think
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I probably would have been up there for that, which
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: would have been pretty awesome.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: And I have it always in Trice's area is always fun,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: as you probably.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, all right.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: To people watching this and seeing your journey from intern
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: to now sports catch of the Year in Alabama, what's
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: your message? How do you have one leg up on
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the sports world?
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: It's a great question. I would say it's just relentless
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: pursuit of the dream. You know, I've see there's always
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: going to be obstacles and hurdles that you have to
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: hop over and get through, but just finding a way
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to power through all that and keep your eyes on
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: the prize. Know that at the end of the day
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: there are going to be struggles and things that you
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: have to get past, but everybody else is dealing with
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: that too. It's just who can get past it the best.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what's led me to where I am.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: All right, you're you're one of the better journalists on X,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: meaning you don't go for like trying to break the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: news like Arson Judge or anything like that. No shade
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to John Aymon, but you know you're not rushing to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: get that breaking news outher you want to be very accurate.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: But a social media just put so much pressure on
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: these journalists and mistakes are made more so than they
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: should be.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a fact.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And how do you avoid that and how do you
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: get your sources and make sure you're well before you
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: go to Twitter with the news.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, it honestly blows my mind how effective some
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: of the people are. I mean, you know, you look
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: at a guy like Jeff Passing or Adam Schefter, like
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: the gods of sourced information tweeting. I don't know how
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: they are able to verify their information as quickly as
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: they are and then get out the tweet correctly. But
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: even those guys, you'll see we'll have an edited tweet
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: or a deleted tweet because we're not immune to typos.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It just happens. Obviously, getting the information wrong.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Is different, but the typo it will get you, it'll
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: get the best of it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: That I think that a Hayman tweet's been screenshotted like
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: twenty thousand times and splattered all over, especially when the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Giants play the Yanks as they are this weekend.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: By the way, nothing beats Arson Judges. That is one
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of the best of all time.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: That is so true. All right, now, you know you're
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: about to go live, right, we're talking on a Friday night.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: You're about to go live. People in New York that
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: know you, that are friends with you, family with you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Do they get to see you? Is there an app
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that we can watch wayt bat.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we have an app and then we
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: live stream on our website. My grandma is a regular viewer.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: I know that my parents watch pretty frequently. I can't
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: say so much that my friends watch me because I
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: don't think that they would normally care about what's going
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: on in the Alabama sports world.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: But I know that at least a couple of my
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: family members are watching.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Well, I love that. And why I came down to
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: you is because you were there. You were on the
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: scene in San Antonio. By the way, alim Odome, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: feel like it's a thousand years old, but it didn't
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: look a day over a year. Right, They look pretty fresh.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: They did some great work with that court and getting
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: that building ready for the event. You know, if you
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: could have seen some of the concourses, I think you
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: would acknowledge that it was thirty years old. But they
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: did a pretty great job of getting it ready for TV.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: All Right, so you're covering Auburn, Alabama any baseball storylines
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: because we have a baseball audience too that you can
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: tell us right.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Now baseball storyline, I mean, the baseball that I'm focused
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: on right now is all Rocket City trash pandis a
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: double A for the Angels. You know, there's a bunch
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: of guys on the Angels right now that I covered
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: while they were here. Logan o'hoppi, who.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Is Oh my god, key star right, it's the catcher.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: He's he he was here for a little bit after
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: they traded with the Phillies for him. And then Kiren
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Parris who's been raking to start this season. I covered
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: him when he was down here.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Well there was I that just got his first major
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: league hit the other day, I believe for the Angels.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: So you know, all these guys are producing right now.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So it's it's it's funny, you know for the Angels
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: and especially for Mike Trout. I want to see him
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: around a good team. I feel very sad for him
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: when he's have to deal with the last few years.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: It is crazy what he's had to deal with.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: But you just got to keep your fingers crossed that
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: at some point the talent that they have in the
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: farm system reaches the potential and they get back to
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: the playoffs.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Have there any been any rehab sightings of Trout during
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: your time, I mean, obviously was up and down all around,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: so I wish.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Triple A for Salt Lake City is much closer
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: than Huntsville, Alabama, so they're going to send him there.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Now you mentioned Alabama, I believe there's a historic Necro
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: League stadium as well around there, am I right?
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: That is right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: You're talking about rick Wood Field where they had the
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Classic last year.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And were you part of that? You get to cover
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: those things too.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Or I was. I was down there for that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: That was pretty awesome to get to see, you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Kangraffe Junior walking around.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You're there with all the national media. It was it
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: was awesome.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Well that's very cool. Well, Max, I love having you on.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: We got to have you back on as things move
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: forward here in the spring, sports things and and and
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: your career as well. Keep in touch with us, let
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: us know what you're up to. And Congratsgate on winning
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Sportscaster of the Year.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Alex.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you having who gave me the award,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: just so I know, because I don't know if I was.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I'll show it to you. I have it here.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It's from the Alabama Broadcasters.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Look at that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I still haven't wrapped up.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Congratulations. Wow. Yeah, And obviously you're not going to rest
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: on that. So what's next for you? Like, what's on
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the agenda and how do you keep growing from.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: This next I'd love to get an Emmy and Amy
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: would be all I've been nominating before, but I have
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: yet to win.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: So that's that's next on my agenda. We'll see what
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: it takes to get there.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: But that would we cover adaptive sports. There you go,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that's Emmy and Warner.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: That lets me my Alex. That might be how I
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: have to get to it.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Max. Always a pleasure and great to talk to you
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: after what eight years it feels like, so, yeah, it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: been a while, but we've been following each other for
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: a long time on social so it's good to find
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: right all right, Max coming, Thanks again for joining and
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: please do come back to One Leg Up with Alex Carrett.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: You know it, Alex