Latest / Kenny For Real / Ranking NBA Teams With The Best Future
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- 0:00Speaker 1: If you were just going to rank NBA teams based
- 0:02Speaker 1: on the next three years, the three year outlook, who'll
- 0:04Speaker 1: be number one and who'll be number thirty. We're figuring
- 0:07Speaker 1: that out today. That's exactly what the NBA insiders did
- 0:10Speaker 1: over on ESPN and this one. They consider the players
- 0:12Speaker 1: that are on the roster, the amount of money they
- 0:15Speaker 1: have to spend, the draft assets that they have, the
- 0:19Speaker 1: market that they're in, and then the management, the good
- 0:22Speaker 1: gms and scouts across the league.
- 0:24Speaker 2: And I'm excited to see where everyone falls.
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- 1:47Speaker 1: like the top let's say three teams should be pretty easy.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I think OKC should be number one. I feel like
- 1:55Speaker 1: the Rockets should be somewhere in that top three. Actually,
- 1:58Speaker 1: I don't know who else will be in there, maybe
- 2:00Speaker 1: maybe the Calves. Let's let's find out again, these are
- 2:03Speaker 1: from the NBA inside, so it's not one specific person.
- 2:06Speaker 1: They had a bunch of different people, including Kevin Pelton
- 2:09Speaker 1: and Bobby Marx and Tim Bontemps. Give their examples or
- 2:13Speaker 1: reasons why they have certain things.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Well, the Spurs find themselves.
- 2:16Speaker 1: That's a good question, because we Minyama by himself might
- 2:18Speaker 1: be good enough for tap thigh. Let's see, we got
- 2:21Speaker 1: number one on the list should be of course, the
- 2:22Speaker 1: Oklahoma City Thunder. They got number one in players to
- 2:24Speaker 1: make sense, they got the MVP of the league and
- 2:26Speaker 1: All NBA and All defensive player in j dub and
- 2:28Speaker 1: another guy in Chet Homer who should make an all
- 2:30Speaker 1: defensive team if he stays healthy. Not to mention some
- 2:33Speaker 1: of the dogs they got on defense with a Caruso
- 2:36Speaker 1: or Door like, this team should be good for the
- 2:38Speaker 1: next three seasons and maybe have the opportunity to repeat.
- 2:41Speaker 1: I know we haven't had a repeat champion over the
- 2:42Speaker 1: last like eight or so years. I think okay See
- 2:45Speaker 1: definitely has a chance. The money aspect is that twenty
- 2:48Speaker 1: eighth because yeah, it makes sense, Shay is on the MAX.
- 2:50Speaker 1: They did just give Check and Dub both MAX extensions
- 2:53Speaker 1: we know that Isaiah Hartenstein basically got like a one
- 2:56Speaker 1: year left table with a time table with the team,
- 2:59Speaker 1: So the money is a bit close, but like the
- 3:02Speaker 1: team is so young that they can make it work
- 3:03Speaker 1: and then the market is small. But at the end
- 3:05Speaker 1: of the day, that don't matter that much. Number two
- 3:07Speaker 1: on the list, they do have the Houston Rocket, So
- 3:09Speaker 1: I was right about that. They got number two in
- 3:11Speaker 1: players over the next three seasons, number twenty one in money,
- 3:14Speaker 1: five in draft capital, number eight in market, and fourign management.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I do think that if you think about when the
- 3:21Speaker 1: James Harden trade happened, in the assets or lack of
- 3:23Speaker 1: assets they got for the James hard And trade, it's
- 3:26Speaker 1: you know, I can't even really say lack of assets
- 3:28Speaker 1: with that trade. I know that they didn't get like
- 3:30Speaker 1: no real in the door talent, but like you know,
- 3:33Speaker 1: they got some picks as that end up top top five,
- 3:36Speaker 1: and then you know we able to parlay one of
- 3:38Speaker 1: those picks to go get other picks. So I can't
- 3:40Speaker 1: say that that was a super awful trade. But like considering,
- 3:44Speaker 1: you know, one of the two greatest players in a
- 3:45Speaker 1: franchise history still really good at what he does, I
- 3:48Speaker 1: feel like there could have been more, But the fact
- 3:50Speaker 1: that they've been able to take that and still be
- 3:52Speaker 1: at this point where like a lot of people look
- 3:53Speaker 1: at them as contenders is pretty pretty dope. Next we
- 3:56Speaker 1: got the next Okay, So I was wondering what that
- 3:59Speaker 1: next team is going to be, and it is the Knicks.
- 4:01Speaker 1: So the Calves gotta be no further than number four.
- 4:04Speaker 1: They got number five and players number twenty nine and money. Yeah,
- 4:06Speaker 1: this is the second eight per team, number twenty seven
- 4:08Speaker 1: in draft capital. Yeah, they gave a lot of it
- 4:10Speaker 1: to get m Michel Bridges on the team. Number two
- 4:12Speaker 1: in market and number nine and management. Leon Rose has
- 4:14Speaker 1: definitely come in and changed some things. Earlier in my
- 4:17Speaker 1: lifetime as an NBA fan, the New York Knicks where
- 4:18Speaker 1: one of the laughing stocks in basketball.
- 4:20Speaker 2: It never can get it right.
- 4:21Speaker 1: They got one of the owners that want to put
- 4:22Speaker 1: his foot in the door and put a stamp on
- 4:24Speaker 1: the team where he didn't really need to do that.
- 4:26Speaker 2: They let Leon Rose cook up.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Jalen Brunton is one of the best stars in ball
- 4:29Speaker 1: and they've put together a good team around him and
- 4:31Speaker 1: they should be a contender this season. Number four, Okay,
- 4:33Speaker 1: So yes, we do get the Calves here, all right, cool, cool, No,
- 4:36Speaker 1: no disrespect to the Calves.
- 4:37Speaker 2: They're here.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Number three in players, number thirty in money. Yeah, yeah,
- 4:43Speaker 1: Evin Mobley's has got the money. Yeah, that makes sense
- 4:45Speaker 1: to me. Number twenty five in draft assets, number twenty four,
- 4:48Speaker 1: market number six, and man, but it really is about
- 4:50Speaker 1: the players. Again, over the next three years, you would assume,
- 4:53Speaker 1: I know, progression is never really linear or is really linear,
- 4:56Speaker 1: but you would assume that Evan Mobley continues to get better.
- 4:59Speaker 1: You assume that a lot of guys on the roster,
- 5:01Speaker 1: you know, have more cohesion and so on. They could
- 5:03Speaker 1: get out of that second round. It's got to be
- 5:05Speaker 1: the year, right, It's got to be the year number
- 5:07Speaker 1: five they got clear Oh they got Clippers number five,
- 5:10Speaker 1: number twelve in players. That seems kind of low, but
- 5:14Speaker 1: oh it's again, three year outlook, three year outlook. Some
- 5:17Speaker 1: of the people on that roster not even gonna be
- 5:18Speaker 1: in the league in three years. Shout out to my goat,
- 5:21Speaker 1: be happy, Chris Paul, he's pretty much done money number five. Okay,
- 5:27Speaker 1: that's news to me. Let's see exactly what the second
- 5:29Speaker 1: version boosts flexibility and reshape the roster. Starting in twenty
- 5:32Speaker 1: twenty seven, the only center Zubats on a guaranteed contract,
- 5:36Speaker 1: LA could boast up to one hundred and forty million
- 5:39Speaker 1: dollars in cap space that summer. Wow, Okay, you learn
- 5:42Speaker 1: something new every single day.
- 5:42Speaker 2: So yeah, the money being number five makes sense.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Draft capital is not very high, especially if this investigation
- 5:48Speaker 1: with Kawhi and that draft capital might drop a.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Little bit more. We know what the market is in LA.
- 5:53Speaker 1: And then yeah, their management group, the fact that they
- 5:55Speaker 1: continue to make the playoffs time and time again under
- 5:57Speaker 1: the Chris Paul era, the no Chris Paul era to
- 6:01Speaker 1: you know, the Kawhi Paul George era. And then now
- 6:04Speaker 1: in this era was Kawhi James Harden is Zoo And
- 6:06Speaker 1: then yeah, when Kawhi James Harden is done, it just
- 6:09Speaker 1: a Zoo era. They're probably gonna be a playoff team.
- 6:11Speaker 1: That's just who they are and that's good management group.
- 6:14Speaker 1: Number six the Golden State Warriors. I'm genuinely surprised to
- 6:18Speaker 1: see the Warriors this high. They got number ten players,
- 6:22Speaker 1: number eighteen in money. I know a lot of these
- 6:24Speaker 1: contracts come off the book in twenty twenty seven drafted,
- 6:27Speaker 1: they're number seventeen, market is four and management is five.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Can I ask you it's a genuine question this Mike
- 6:35Speaker 1: Dunleavy Junior deserves to have management being five. Like, have
- 6:38Speaker 1: we been super really like super impressed since Mike Dunlavy
- 6:41Speaker 1: has taken over the Warriors. You let me know. I
- 6:45Speaker 1: know why I sit here. I can't say that he's
- 6:47Speaker 1: number five. I mean, I guess it's more like an
- 6:50Speaker 1: umbrella thing. It's not necessarily about the singular GM. But
- 6:53Speaker 1: it's not like they've drafted amazingly over the last decade
- 6:56Speaker 1: or so. Like they got some hits. Don't get me wrong,
- 6:57Speaker 1: they got some hits. But their management being five, that's
- 7:00Speaker 1: pretty high. I'm not saying it should be thirty now,
- 7:03Speaker 1: but that seems pretty high. Next week got the Orlando Magic.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Shout out to the Magic. They're number six and players
- 7:09Speaker 1: number twenty seven. The money, yeah, Franz, Palo, Desmond Bine
- 7:14Speaker 1: all on really big contracts. Jalen Sugg signed what was
- 7:17Speaker 1: either a max extension or close to max extension I
- 7:19Speaker 1: don't remember, so the money is not really there. They
- 7:21Speaker 1: gave up a lot of draft capital. Go get dezim Baine.
- 7:23Speaker 1: The market is right in the middle, and then the
- 7:25Speaker 1: management is at thirteen. Okay, I'm not mad at It's
- 7:28Speaker 1: really about the players got them as high because you
- 7:31Speaker 1: think about the three year outlook pallelm and Carrol's progression,
- 7:33Speaker 1: Franz Vogular really good in EuroBasket, can some of that
- 7:36Speaker 1: continued to translate to his NBA and then Desien Banin
- 7:38Speaker 1: is kind of like a perfect fit alongside those two
- 7:40Speaker 1: big wings that like to get to the basket. So
- 7:42Speaker 1: I understand the players carrying heavily here. I want to
- 7:44Speaker 1: see that center position get booked up. Maybe that is
- 7:47Speaker 1: window Carter having a bounce back season after he was
- 7:49Speaker 1: a very good last season. But I feel like that
- 7:52Speaker 1: center position is the last piece of the puzzle for them,
- 7:54Speaker 1: and I don't know who it is next. We got
- 7:56Speaker 1: the LA Lakers, who are ninth in players. Are we
- 7:59Speaker 1: assuming is playing for the next three seasons? Is it
- 8:02Speaker 1: crazy to assume anything else? Considering what Lebron has been
- 8:04Speaker 1: doing for the last twenty three years. The money is
- 8:07Speaker 1: number six, and that's one of the reasons why they
- 8:09Speaker 1: had they hadn't done any big time things around Lukadancias
- 8:12Speaker 1: because they are also a team that's gonna have a
- 8:13Speaker 1: crazy amount of money to spend in twenty twenty seven
- 8:16Speaker 1: if everything goes well. Twenty three in draft capitol, number
- 8:18Speaker 1: one in market, number seventeen in management.
- 8:21Speaker 2: I've been very critical over Rob Polinka.
- 8:23Speaker 1: For Rob Polinka since twenty twenty one, you take some
- 8:26Speaker 1: of that back because he got handed Luka Dancis. But
- 8:28Speaker 1: now it's like, Okay, now we got Lukadancs, what else
- 8:30Speaker 1: can we really do?
- 8:31Speaker 2: I do think that's seventeen.
- 8:32Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out if I like that range
- 8:34Speaker 1: for the Rob Polenka team over there.
- 8:36Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta see what are your other teams. Land
- 8:39Speaker 1: Number nine is the Denver Nuggets, where they got number
- 8:43Speaker 1: four players, number twenty five in money, number twenty nine
- 8:46Speaker 1: in draft capitol because they did give up a twenty
- 8:48Speaker 1: thirty one to go get Cam Johnson. So they just
- 8:51Speaker 1: they're so far down the line in draft capitol and
- 8:53Speaker 1: I can't even say they're wrong. But now, well, you've
- 8:54Speaker 1: got the best player in the world, you gotta do
- 8:56Speaker 1: what you gotta do to put the best team around them.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Market is eighteen and management is twenty one. Management being
- 9:00Speaker 1: twenty one is pretty interesting because They basically got new
- 9:03Speaker 1: management in there over the last season when they fired
- 9:06Speaker 1: their guys, So I guess we don't really know.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Two too much.
- 9:10Speaker 1: I know that they kind of promoted within. I don't
- 9:12Speaker 1: think they still I still don't think they have a.
- 9:14Speaker 2: GM right now.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I think they just have two people in different spots
- 9:17Speaker 1: that are working together as the GM. I still know
- 9:19Speaker 1: how often we see that happen, and it's a little
- 9:22Speaker 1: bit scary, but also front office titles feel like who.
- 9:25Speaker 2: Is the president of basketball operations? Who is the GM?
- 9:28Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
- 9:30Speaker 1: But they are number nine, number ten. This is where
- 9:33Speaker 1: we find the Spurs with eight and players. They have
- 9:36Speaker 1: fourteen in money, eleven in draft. They are sixteen in
- 9:40Speaker 1: market and fifteen in management. I actually thought the draft
- 9:44Speaker 1: would be a little bit higher. They do have an
- 9:46Speaker 1: extra asset that they brought in for the Rob Dillingham trade.
- 9:49Speaker 2: I think they might.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I don't know if they've used all of their Atlanta
- 9:52Speaker 1: Hawks picks from the original Johntay Murray trade. The players
- 9:56Speaker 1: being eight makes sense though women Yam's Karry and out
- 10:00Speaker 1: of that, And again, if we're doing a three year timeline,
- 10:02Speaker 1: we're hoping that's the fodcast or can you just get better?
- 10:04Speaker 1: You're hoping that you know Dylan Harper where you drafted him,
- 10:07Speaker 1: He's really the real deal in the d M.
- 10:09Speaker 2: Fox just signed his extension as well.
- 10:11Speaker 1: So yeah, the players over again over the next three
- 10:13Speaker 1: seasons makes sense. Next we got the Wolves where they
- 10:17Speaker 1: have players at seven money at twenty six draft at
- 10:20Speaker 1: twenty eight market at thirty. I thought that the the
- 10:25Speaker 1: Mifits Grizasies were smaller market than Minnesota.
- 10:28Speaker 2: I'm tripping, I'm tripping.
- 10:29Speaker 1: I guess management at teim Hey, they have Anthony Ewards.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Is that enough?
- 10:34Speaker 1: Is that enough over the next three seasons? Can you
- 10:36Speaker 1: say confidently anybody outside of Anthony Edwards and maybe Jada
- 10:40Speaker 1: McDaniels is on the team in three years? Can you
- 10:42Speaker 1: say that confidence?
- 10:43Speaker 2: Do you believe? Maybe Nasri shout out Nasri.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Can you say that you believe Rudy go Bear is
- 10:48Speaker 1: gonna be there, or Julius randel Forsh is gonna be there,
- 10:50Speaker 1: or Docted Di Vincenzo or Mike Coley. It really is
- 10:53Speaker 1: kind of like the Anthony Edwards thing. And I trust it,
- 10:56Speaker 1: I trust it. I'm sorry, I trusted number twelve is
- 10:59Speaker 1: the Atlanta Hawks. Wow, they were one of the biggest jumps.
- 11:01Speaker 1: They were twenty three last season or I don't know
- 11:03Speaker 1: when the last ranking.
- 11:05Speaker 2: They're fourteen in players. They're not in money, so interesting.
- 11:10Speaker 1: Okay, they're seven in draft, they're eleven in marketing and
- 11:13Speaker 1: eleventh eleventh in management. Where's that money coming from? And
- 11:17Speaker 1: my bugget, I guess Trey Young has not signed an extension.
- 11:20Speaker 1: Poor Zingis is on the last year of his deal,
- 11:23Speaker 1: and those are the bigger contracts. I mean, Jalen Johnson
- 11:25Speaker 1: sign an extension, but that's not a huge contract, so
- 11:27Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense. The drafting is where it
- 11:29Speaker 1: gets really interesting, because I'm gonna keep talking about it
- 11:31Speaker 1: until they proved me wrong.
- 11:32Speaker 2: The trade that they made on draft night that Derek Queen.
- 11:35Speaker 1: For the the best of the Bucks slash Pelicans pick,
- 11:39Speaker 1: who might be the best traded ass set this offseason,
- 11:42Speaker 1: but who knows, Maybe the Pelicans surprize, maybe they don't,
- 11:44Speaker 1: but that pick looks really juicy, and the Atlanta Hawks
- 11:47Speaker 1: are the team that has that pick right now.
- 11:49Speaker 2: The Boss itself is still high on this list.
- 11:50Speaker 1: They were previously ranking number two, and obviously we know
- 11:52Speaker 1: second Apron hit them, and they had the gut house
- 11:55Speaker 1: of a Drew Holliday, of a Al Horford, of a
- 11:58Speaker 1: poor zingis I steal thirteen players, twelve in money, eighteen
- 12:03Speaker 1: in draft nine, in market in eight management. I've said
- 12:07Speaker 1: this before on the podcast that I think this is
- 12:09Speaker 1: one of the most interesting, or like could be one
- 12:12Speaker 1: of the more impactful non championship seasons in Boston Celtics history.
- 12:18Speaker 1: This is a time where they have their own first
- 12:20Speaker 1: round pick and their best player on the team is
- 12:22Speaker 1: out for the entire year with an achilles injury. So
- 12:25Speaker 1: this could be a year if they want to play
- 12:27Speaker 1: it this way where they bridge the gap retain their
- 12:29Speaker 1: own first round pick, it ends up being less say
- 12:31Speaker 1: top ten, because they are bad. I'm not saying that
- 12:34Speaker 1: they will be bad, but this is like one of
- 12:36Speaker 1: the different cross roads that could go they're bad, the
- 12:38Speaker 1: season they retain a top ten pick, get a little
- 12:41Speaker 1: bit of draftlucking.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Just like that, you're looking at a Jason Tatum.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Jalen Brown, and Darren Peterson team, or just another top
- 12:50Speaker 1: ten pick that you can help build around with the James.
- 12:52Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting way to kind of think
- 12:55Speaker 1: about it. It is a risky way to think about it,
- 12:57Speaker 1: but that's the way I wull try to right it. Hey,
- 13:00Speaker 1: I like to take that risk. Fourteen Miami Heat eighteen
- 13:04Speaker 1: and players ten in money nineteen and draft fifth and
- 13:07Speaker 1: market three in management?
- 13:11Speaker 2: Huh? Are we are we just giving? Hm?
- 13:20Speaker 1: I just can't say that I've been extremely impressed with
- 13:23Speaker 1: the management group of the Miami Heat over the last
- 13:27Speaker 1: four to five seasons.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Let's say, Kenny, in the last.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Five seasons, they made two championships twenty twenty and then
- 13:33Speaker 1: a one against the Nuggets.
- 13:34Speaker 2: I know, I know they did.
- 13:36Speaker 1: I know they did, and yet I still don't know
- 13:39Speaker 1: if I feel like they're top three management group in basketball?
- 13:44Speaker 2: Am I bugging? Am I bug I don't know?
- 13:48Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Historically, don't get me wrong, pat Riley been and King
- 13:53Speaker 1: of Kings. But again, we're just looking at if his
- 13:57Speaker 1: name was not pat Riley and his name was oh
- 14:00Speaker 1: Smoke and he did exact same moves over the last
- 14:03Speaker 1: three seasons, do you believe that we would say that
- 14:05Speaker 1: that's the top three management group. The resume is the resume,
- 14:07Speaker 1: and I'm not taking none of that away. That man
- 14:09Speaker 1: is one of the most winnings GM's coaches. All I
- 14:11Speaker 1: would never do that, but again, just based on the
- 14:14Speaker 1: last couple of years, his name is not pat Riley,
- 14:18Speaker 1: his name is Kenny Beacham. Guess who can fired Kenny Beacham?
- 14:22Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
- 14:24Speaker 1: Next week got the Indiana Pacers coming off two conference
- 14:27Speaker 1: finals appearance to one NBA Championshi appears they got to
- 14:29Speaker 1: be number fifteen.
- 14:30Speaker 2: I know this year is like a gap year. Shout
- 14:31Speaker 2: out to Tyres Haliberg and get well soon. The twentieth in.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Money, fourteenth in draft, which I think that might mean,
- 14:38Speaker 1: like if they're like in this range draft, I think
- 14:40Speaker 1: that might just mean that they have pretty much all
- 14:42Speaker 1: of their own first round picks. I could be mistaken
- 14:43Speaker 1: there though. Twenty two market, seventh and management see I
- 14:48Speaker 1: think that the Pacer management group is underrated for them
- 14:51Speaker 1: to be in the twenty second market and has.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Not missed the playoffs or have been a playoff team for.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Almost every year over the last twenty years, and now
- 14:58Speaker 1: has the NBA's finals appearance.
- 15:00Speaker 2: It's in a conference finals appearance.
- 15:01Speaker 1: To say that, like, there's some real stuff going on here.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Think about all of the smaller trades they've done and
- 15:05Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, they really helped the scene, the
- 15:07Speaker 1: drafting of the Nimhar, the tray of Aaron E. Smith,
- 15:10Speaker 1: the people mean the moment they did it, whereas Malcolm
- 15:12Speaker 1: brock to going to the Celtics for nothing, like they've
- 15:15Speaker 1: done really good shit, you know, like I next, we
- 15:20Speaker 1: got the Dallas Mavericks. They were number five recently, but
- 15:23Speaker 1: you know, they did some stuff.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Obviously. It's still a really.
- 15:25Speaker 1: Interesting team though, even without Luca being there. Eleven the players,
- 15:30Speaker 1: twenty fourth in money, twenty first in draft capital, tenth
- 15:33Speaker 1: and market, twentieth in management. Nico Nico Nico. I wonder
- 15:38Speaker 1: if I could go back and read the last time
- 15:40Speaker 1: they did this where they were number five, was Nico
- 15:43Speaker 1: Harrison's management group higher than twenty? I feel like they
- 15:45Speaker 1: had to be top ten. I guess it depends on
- 15:47Speaker 1: when you did it. Because the day your Gafford trade
- 15:49Speaker 1: was really good, that PCE Washington trades really good, and
- 15:51Speaker 1: then they made the finals and you take all of
- 15:53Speaker 1: that resume away. It was like, because one major mistake,
- 15:56Speaker 1: but it's still a really interesting roster. If Kyrie Irvan
- 15:59Speaker 1: could come back at some point, but like, I just
- 16:02Speaker 1: don't know ACL injuries. I never expect the person coming
- 16:05Speaker 1: back from an ACO injury to be really good immediately.
- 16:08Speaker 2: I would expect even if.
- 16:09Speaker 1: If Kyrie came back in March of this season, I
- 16:11Speaker 1: don't expect to see normal Kyrie to the beginning of
- 16:14Speaker 1: next season. That's just my opinion. I just don't think
- 16:16Speaker 1: ACL injuries are something you just come back from, Like, hey,
- 16:19Speaker 1: I'm back to average of twenty six on fifty forty ninety.
- 16:21Speaker 1: Like that's hard, that's really hard to do. Miphis Grazies
- 16:24Speaker 1: are seventeen. They are sixteen and players seventeen, in money
- 16:28Speaker 1: eight and draft twenty three.
- 16:29Speaker 2: In market.
- 16:30Speaker 1: My market skills all messed up. Why did I think
- 16:33Speaker 1: that this was the smallest market in the league. They
- 16:34Speaker 1: got it at twenty three. How they gauge in the
- 16:36Speaker 1: smallest market in the league. It's isn't literally, just like
- 16:38Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know management
- 16:40Speaker 1: at fourteen. This is a team I don't really have
- 16:42Speaker 1: many opinions about right now. So we move the Brooklyn.
- 16:46Speaker 1: The Detroit Pisses are next, where they have seventeen and
- 16:49Speaker 1: players eight and money thirteen in draft twenty fifth in
- 16:52Speaker 1: market and.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Eighteen in management.
- 16:54Speaker 1: I guess this number of players should go up, or
- 16:56Speaker 1: you hope to have to go up if one of
- 16:58Speaker 1: the other guys, a Saw or Adoring or Ivy or
- 17:02Speaker 1: a Ron Holland for that matter, if one of them
- 17:04Speaker 1: takes a big jump the season. Because right now it
- 17:06Speaker 1: is Kay Cunningham and really intriguing young players, you want
- 17:09Speaker 1: one of them to be like, oh, I'm the guy
- 17:12Speaker 1: next to Kid, I'm the next most important player, and
- 17:14Speaker 1: I think out of all of them, I we're gonna
- 17:15Speaker 1: take a guess who is gonna be. I think all
- 17:17Speaker 1: of us believe in the sar Thompson. Maybe it's him.
- 17:20Speaker 1: I hope it's him, But you want, like just one
- 17:22Speaker 1: other guy, like that guy's a future All Star. I
- 17:24Speaker 1: don't think you have that on the roster right now,
- 17:25Speaker 1: at least based on what we've seen so far. But
- 17:28Speaker 1: I think Asar Thompson is one of those guys. And
- 17:30Speaker 1: like you remember, he missed a lot of the last
- 17:32Speaker 1: two seasons with a blood cloud issue. With that, you
- 17:34Speaker 1: can't even work out, You can't even be in the gym.
- 17:37Speaker 2: You know.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Sometimes a player has an injury, but he's still getting
- 17:39Speaker 1: up shots. You can't really do that with his his
- 17:41Speaker 1: ailment that he had, So he's basically a year and
- 17:44Speaker 1: a half, a half a year or eight months behind
- 17:47Speaker 1: everybody else in this draft class as far as how
- 17:49Speaker 1: much workout working out he's been able to do, and
- 17:53Speaker 1: I trust him. The seventy six ers are at nineteen.
- 17:55Speaker 1: They were previously number four, dang dude. Also a big
- 18:00Speaker 1: jump up from the Detroit Pistons. You got to respect it.
- 18:03Speaker 1: They were number four. They're nineteen and players twenty three
- 18:06Speaker 1: in money, fourteen in Draft fourteen market, and then management
- 18:11Speaker 1: is sixteen. And that's a tough falloff, man. I did
- 18:13Speaker 1: see the pictures of Jolan B. He looks really good.
- 18:15Speaker 1: I don't know how many times it's going to fall
- 18:17Speaker 1: for that, not just specifically with Jorlan B, but I
- 18:19Speaker 1: am a guy that notoriously will fall for a good
- 18:20Speaker 1: offseason workout clip. I ain't gonna lie, and I think
- 18:23Speaker 1: I might be doing it again with Joe Joe. I
- 18:25Speaker 1: think they could be higher. They have a really intriguing
- 18:28Speaker 1: young core with a Maxi and McCain, edge Combe and Grimes.
- 18:32Speaker 2: When he eventually comes.
- 18:33Speaker 1: Back to the roster, all of those guys play very
- 18:36Speaker 1: similar positions. I've recognize that, but I feel like over
- 18:39Speaker 1: the next three seasons this could be a little bit higher.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Could be the Toronto Rapts are number twenty. They pretty
- 18:45Speaker 1: much take the same they were twenty two last season.
- 18:46Speaker 1: They were twenty first in players, nineteen in money, twelfth
- 18:50Speaker 1: in draft, thirteenth in market, and twenty fourth in management.
- 18:53Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that management is because like
- 18:56Speaker 1: Messiah is gone and it's like Bobby Webster who got
- 18:59Speaker 1: promoted from within.
- 19:01Speaker 2: It's a really interesting team.
- 19:02Speaker 1: I think that it's just one of those teams that
- 19:05Speaker 1: there's so many I guess questions with how every piece
- 19:09Speaker 1: fits together to make the perfect puzzle. I mentioned this
- 19:12Speaker 1: on the show. We don't really know much. We haven't
- 19:15Speaker 1: seen the best out of Darker ray Akovic's system because
- 19:18Speaker 1: I feel like it's very rare to he's been able
- 19:20Speaker 1: to have a fully healthy roster, and I think that
- 19:22Speaker 1: going into next season that everybody that from the Purdles
- 19:25Speaker 1: to the Ingrams, to the bear Its to the Barnses
- 19:29Speaker 1: and quick Lit's, I think they're all gonna be healthy
- 19:30Speaker 1: for like the first time ever. So I'm curious to
- 19:32Speaker 1: see what that looks like.
- 19:34Speaker 2: The Bucks. Yeah, the Bucks.
- 19:37Speaker 1: Over the next three years, Man, it's gonna be rough.
- 19:39Speaker 1: As long as Gianness is there, we feel good. But
- 19:41Speaker 1: over the next three years, can we say that one
- 19:44Speaker 1: hundred percent certainty?
- 19:45Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 19:45Speaker 1: They're twentything players, sixteen of money, twenty six in draft, damn,
- 19:49Speaker 1: seventeen in market, and then nineteen in management. Hey, man,
- 19:56Speaker 1: honest is on the roster right now, Troudblazers over and
- 20:00Speaker 1: again we're talking about next three seasons, A twenty second
- 20:02Speaker 1: player to eleventh and money tenth and draft, twentieth in
- 20:05Speaker 1: market and twenty six in management.
- 20:08Speaker 2: As we can say these last.
- 20:09Speaker 1: Couple, I just don't know how much I really have
- 20:11Speaker 1: to say they were thirtieth.
- 20:13Speaker 2: So what a big jump for the Blazers.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I really believe in Donovan Klingen as a defensive anchor
- 20:18Speaker 1: at this level of basketball. Can't wait to see him
- 20:20Speaker 1: play thirty minutes a game hopefully one day. School Henderson
- 20:23Speaker 1: has a lot left on his plate that he needs
- 20:26Speaker 1: to get out there and get after. I think it's
- 20:29Speaker 1: gonna be a interesting thing because last year at the
- 20:31Speaker 1: last months and it's tough to really gauge the team
- 20:34Speaker 1: based on March and after that, the defense looked really good,
- 20:37Speaker 1: and you think about Deny, you think about Tomani and
- 20:39Speaker 1: Donovan Klingan that defense should stay, especially considering their coach.
- 20:44Speaker 2: Chaunsea is one of the ones when they come to defense.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Bro, he cares about defense more than he'd be okaym
- 20:50Speaker 1: fas team with thirty if they prevented the other team
- 20:54Speaker 1: from going one of thirty, you know what I mean?
- 20:56Speaker 2: Like like that defense is number one priority for him.
- 20:58Speaker 1: He don't give a damn if the lineup that he's
- 21:00Speaker 1: trotting out can't score, but if they can defend, he
- 21:03Speaker 1: think he got a chance. Hey, Charlott Horne is number
- 21:05Speaker 1: twenty three. They're twenty fifth in players. I realized, I
- 21:08Speaker 1: haven't seen my bulls yet. What's Adilly? There's seventh of money,
- 21:12Speaker 1: their fourth and draft capital. They're twenty first in market,
- 21:15Speaker 1: twenty two in management. I like their young core. Is
- 21:18Speaker 1: that crazy? I like Brandon Miller, I like conkor Nipple. Okay,
- 21:22Speaker 1: it might be it, damn Okay, Maybe I can't say
- 21:24Speaker 1: I like their young core if it's only two out
- 21:25Speaker 1: of the eight players, But this is a Mello still
- 21:28Speaker 1: count as young core. You've been in the least as
- 21:29Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Yeah, you still count so LaMelo too. I
- 21:33Speaker 1: haven't opinion about some of these other guys yet, like
- 21:35Speaker 1: Tajohn Salon too early. But Utah Jazz is twenty four.
- 21:39Speaker 1: They're twenty seven to players, three in money, three in draft.
- 21:45Speaker 2: This is this is something, ain't it. They're hiding the bulls.
- 21:49Speaker 2: Damn bro.
- 21:51Speaker 1: They're hiding the bulls.
- 21:53Speaker 2: Damn bro. They're higher than the bulls. Brown fell off.
- 21:59Speaker 2: This is my mind.
- 22:00Speaker 1: I think the bulls should be higher in players, not
- 22:03Speaker 1: by a lot, not by lot. We should be pretty
- 22:05Speaker 1: high in money, considering we're gonna have like ninety million
- 22:08Speaker 1: in cap space next season.
- 22:09Speaker 2: We should be good in draft capitol.
- 22:11Speaker 1: We're not gonna be great in draft capital because we
- 22:13Speaker 1: didn't pull off for Rego Beer and Donovan Mitroll trade.
- 22:14Speaker 2: So we're not gonna be top three. We're gonna be
- 22:17Speaker 2: high in market. Management.
- 22:19Speaker 1: We're probably dead last. Management is killing us already. No,
- 22:21Speaker 1: management is killing us. We're gonna be deadass last and management,
- 22:23Speaker 1: oh my god, no we're not, because the Sacramento King's
- 22:26Speaker 1: a dead ass last. And management, Oh my goodness. Okay,
- 22:29Speaker 1: so we're gonna be twenty ninth maybe twenty ninth in management,
- 22:36Speaker 1: Washington Wizards, twenty ninth in players, second in money, the
- 22:40Speaker 1: sixth in draft, nineteen in market, twenty.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Three in management.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Oh, are we gonna be thirtieth on this list?
- 22:47Speaker 2: Brooklyn Nets are higher than us? Yeah?
- 22:49Speaker 1: Money, they got it, draft capital, they got it from
- 22:51Speaker 1: the kill Bridges trade and other trades. Kevin urrnt trade.
- 22:55Speaker 1: You know, it's a lot of trades going on. Seventh
- 22:57Speaker 1: in market, thirtieth in players, single player on that team
- 23:00Speaker 1: that you one hundred percent can feel confident. Who's gonna
- 23:03Speaker 1: be there in three years? You hope that it's Cam,
- 23:05Speaker 1: You hope that it's Clas, But like, you can't say
- 23:07Speaker 1: that with so.
- 23:08Speaker 2: You wouldn't bet your house on it, would you? If
- 23:10Speaker 2: you bet your how?
- 23:11Speaker 1: I mean, they would give him a three year deal
- 23:12Speaker 1: instead of a qualifying offer if we knew he was
- 23:14Speaker 1: gonna be there in three years. Damn, we're gonna be dead, lad,
- 23:17Speaker 1: Oh we're twenty eighth. Let's go. They the Jazz have
- 23:21Speaker 1: a better roster than us. They got the Jazz and
- 23:24Speaker 1: put spot above us.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Okay, we're foreign money.
- 23:27Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about that money that we got to spend
- 23:29Speaker 1: that we not gonna spend on good players eighth and
- 23:31Speaker 1: draft twelfth in market. Okay, now I'm confused, not confused, Okay,
- 23:36Speaker 1: I got twenty seventh management. The Pelicans are beneath us.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Why they have failed? Bro Wow, they failed from sixteen
- 23:44Speaker 1: to twenty nine, twenty fourth in players. I think they
- 23:47Speaker 1: deserve to be a little bit higher players. But maybe
- 23:48Speaker 1: I'm a little biased towards Treamer for the third and
- 23:50Speaker 1: Zion money is fifteen, draft is twenty. They did give
- 23:53Speaker 1: up that pick. I can't look past that pick. Their
- 23:55Speaker 1: twenty eighth in market and twenty ninth and management, and
- 23:58Speaker 1: then last year the Phoenix songs to our thirtieth in draft,
- 24:00Speaker 1: twenty two in money, twenty six and players they got
- 24:03Speaker 1: a market. How is market being determined here? Because I've
- 24:06Speaker 1: read uptime, it don't tell you. It just says to
- 24:08Speaker 1: determine the rankings, we asked these guys to rank them
- 24:11Speaker 1: on the five categories, rank them relative to the rest
- 24:14Speaker 1: of the league, because they can't be ranking based on
- 24:16Speaker 1: mar Oh sorry, market size, right, So what what is
- 24:20Speaker 1: market being because bulls are three in market?
- 24:23Speaker 2: Whatever. That was a fun article.
- 24:25Speaker 1: I really did it to see where the bulls are
- 24:27Speaker 1: gonna Land, and I'm upset. I'm not saying that they're wrong.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I'm just upset.