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- 0:03Speaker 1: The tea was warm. That was the first thing Judith
- 0:06Speaker 1: Cook noticed when she stepped into storage Unit forty seven
- 0:10Speaker 1: on the morning of August fourteenth, two thousand nineteen. A
- 0:14Speaker 1: ceramic mug sitting on the concrete floor beside a motionless woman, warm,
- 0:20Speaker 1: not lukewarm warm. There was no kitchen, no kettle. The
- 0:25Speaker 1: nearest electrical outlet was twenty feet away, and the extension
- 0:29Speaker 1: cord on the floor was unplugged. Judith had come to
- 0:32Speaker 1: retrieve folding tables for a church drive. She found Gloria
- 0:37Speaker 1: Jones instead, unconscious, breathing in the shallow rhythmic pattern of
- 0:43Speaker 1: someone chemically subdued. The mug should not have been warm.
- 0:47Speaker 1: There was no explanation for it, and that impossibility that
- 0:52Speaker 1: single detail would eventually pull apart everything Paul Vickers had
- 0:56Speaker 1: spent approximately three years building. What happened to Gloria Jones
- 1:01Speaker 1: was not a sudden act of violence. It was a process, methodical,
- 1:06Speaker 1: patient designed to be invisible, even to Gloria herself. By
- 1:10Speaker 1: the time she ended up in that storage unit, she
- 1:12Speaker 1: had already lost her bank account, her sponsor, her Thursday
- 1:16Speaker 1: visits to the woman who raised her, and her ability
- 1:19Speaker 1: to trust her own mind. She had lost all of
- 1:22Speaker 1: it without ever knowing she was losing it. That is
- 1:25Speaker 1: what this case is actually about, not just what Vickers
- 1:28Speaker 1: did on August fourteenth, but how he built the conditions
- 1:32Speaker 1: piece by piece that made August fourteenth possible. Gloria Jones
- 1:37Speaker 1: was twenty eight years old when Paul Vickers entered her life.
- 1:42Speaker 1: She worked as a licensed veterinary technician at Pallister Animal Care,
- 1:47Speaker 1: a job she had held long enough that her co
- 1:50Speaker 1: workers felt comfortable pooling money to give her a gift.
- 1:54Speaker 1: She was, by every account, the person on the staff
- 1:58Speaker 1: who showed up, the one who stayed late, who remembered
- 2:00Speaker 1: which animals needed hand feeding, who texted follow ups on
- 2:04Speaker 1: difficult cases without being asked. She had been sober since
- 2:08Speaker 1: age twenty three, five years she could calculate precisely on
- 2:12Speaker 1: any given afternoon. Sobriety from alcohol was not a backstory
- 2:17Speaker 1: detail for Gloria. It was a structure she had built
- 2:20Speaker 1: around her life with real deliberateness. She attended a meeting's
- 2:24Speaker 1: three times a week. She had a sponsor, a woman
- 2:28Speaker 1: known publicly only as Pat. She paid into a therapy
- 2:31Speaker 1: practice on a quarterly schedule. Her sobriety was also the
- 2:34Speaker 1: thing that made her coworkers want to do something kind.
- 2:38Speaker 1: They knew she had worked hard to get there, they
- 2:41Speaker 1: wanted to support her. When she was eleven, her mother
- 2:44Speaker 1: died of a cardiac event. She went to live with
- 2:47Speaker 1: her aunt, Diane Morrow, in the Crestfield suburb of Pallister.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Diane was older, had a bad hip, and lived on
- 2:56Speaker 1: a fixed income, circumstances that made the relationship whip practically
- 3:00Speaker 1: asymmetrical in one direction, emotionally asymmetrical in another. Gloria was
- 3:07Speaker 1: the one who checked on Diane every Thursday. She would
- 3:11Speaker 1: drive to Crestfield, sit with her aunt, and stay long
- 3:14Speaker 1: enough to matter. Diane could not always offer help in return.
- 3:18Speaker 1: What she could offer was attention, and she paid it carefully.
- 3:23Speaker 1: That matters because Diane Morrow is the person who first
- 3:27Speaker 1: noticed something was wrong. By the time the Thursday visit
- 3:30Speaker 1: slowed first to every other week, then to monthly, Diane
- 3:35Speaker 1: had already started keeping a written log. She had a
- 3:38Speaker 1: bad hip and a fixed income, but she had time,
- 3:42Speaker 1: and she had precision. She wrote down canceled visits with dates.
- 3:46Speaker 1: She wrote down phrases from phone calls that did not
- 3:49Speaker 1: sound like Gloria words that were slightly off, a flatness
- 3:54Speaker 1: in the sentences that she could not name, but could
- 3:57Speaker 1: not dismiss. Gloria's a sponsor pad not a different kind
- 4:01Speaker 1: of change. Meetings that had been three times a week
- 4:04Speaker 1: became one. Phone calls that had once come freely grew infrequent.
- 4:09Speaker 1: The language shifted less specific, more managed, as if Gloria
- 4:13Speaker 1: were reporting rather than talking. And Doctor Anita Marsh, Gloria's
- 4:18Speaker 1: primary care physician, noted something in her charts over two
- 4:22Speaker 1: separate visits across eight months. Fatigue, cognitive blunting, disrupted sleep,
- 4:28Speaker 1: symptoms consistent the records would later show with prolonged low
- 4:32Speaker 1: dose benzodiazepine use. Doctor Marsh did not order a test
- 4:37Speaker 1: for benzodiazepines. There was, at the time, no specific reason
- 4:41Speaker 1: she could point to. The symptoms were real, the cause
- 4:45Speaker 1: was invisible. Gloria herself noticed the impairment. She noticed the fog,
- 4:51Speaker 1: the difficulty holding a sequence of thoughts, the sense that
- 4:55Speaker 1: she was not quite arriving inside her own days. She
- 4:58Speaker 1: recognized something was wrong with her cognition. What she did
- 5:02Speaker 1: not know, what Vickers had specifically engineered her not to know,
- 5:07Speaker 1: was that she was being drugged. What she concluded instead,
- 5:11Speaker 1: alone and increasingly isolated from the people who might have
- 5:14Speaker 1: helped her reason through it was that the problem was her.
- 5:18Speaker 1: She stopped trusting her own judgment. That is the mechanism
- 5:22Speaker 1: at the center of this case, not the storage unit,
- 5:26Speaker 1: not the financial fraud. The mechanism is a woman who
- 5:29Speaker 1: had spent nearly five years learning to trust her own recovery,
- 5:33Speaker 1: her own mind, her own instincts, and then watching that
- 5:37Speaker 1: trust dissolve, and not knowing why. The person who would
- 5:41Speaker 1: later document how that dissolution was engineered step by deliberate
- 5:45Speaker 1: step was not a detective. He was a private investigator
- 5:49Speaker 1: named Vernon Barry. Fifteen years in insurance and domestic cases,
- 5:54Speaker 1: eight of those focused specifically on what he called behavioral fraud.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Barry did not find the case. This case found him
- 6:02Speaker 1: through a pastor and a victim's advocacy newsletter. He was
- 6:06Speaker 1: introduced to Diane Morrow, an older woman with a bad hip,
- 6:11Speaker 1: a written log, and a certainty that her niece had
- 6:14Speaker 1: been taken from herself. What Barry found in that log
- 6:18Speaker 1: would take him somewhere he had not expected to go.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Diane Morrow kept her log in a spiral bound notebook
- 6:25Speaker 1: with a purple cover. She had started it in August
- 6:28Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, almost a year before anyone found Gloria
- 6:33Speaker 1: in that storage unit. The entries were not dramatic. They
- 6:37Speaker 1: were the opposite of dramatic. They were the kind of
- 6:40Speaker 1: notes a careful woman writes when she cannot yet name
- 6:43Speaker 1: what she is seeing, but she knows that something is wrong.
- 6:47Speaker 1: The first entry read, Thursday visit canceled. Paul says Gloria
- 6:52Speaker 1: is tired. The second Thursday visit canceled, Paul says she
- 6:57Speaker 1: needs rest. The third six weeks later, Gloria came, seemed
- 7:04Speaker 1: far away, used the wrong word for something, could not
- 7:08Speaker 1: remember the name of her aunt's neighbor, a man she
- 7:11Speaker 1: had known for eleven years. Barry read through the notebook
- 7:14Speaker 1: in one sitting. Then he read it again. What he
- 7:18Speaker 1: was looking at was a record of erasure, not the
- 7:21Speaker 1: dramatic kind. Not a sudden disappearance, not a break, a slow,
- 7:26Speaker 1: systematic reduction of contact, visits becoming monthly, phone calls becoming shorter,
- 7:32Speaker 1: Gloria's vocabulary narrowing, her sentences arriving a half second behind
- 7:37Speaker 1: her thoughts. Diane had written in the margin of one entry.
- 7:42Speaker 1: She sounded like she was talking through glass. Barry set
- 7:46Speaker 1: the note book down. He needed the financial records. The
- 7:49Speaker 1: transfers were not what financial fraud usually looks like. There
- 7:54Speaker 1: were eleven of them, running from May through October of
- 7:57Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. The amounts were round numbers. They were
- 8:01Speaker 1: not predictable intervals. They were the kind of numbers that
- 8:05Speaker 1: do not trigger a second glance, not large enough to alarm,
- 8:09Speaker 1: not regular enough to pattern match as a subscription designed,
- 8:14Speaker 1: Barry would later write in his report, to avoid cognitive friction.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Each one went to an entity called Vicker's Wellness Consultant.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Barry pulled the registration. It was real, technically filed active,
- 8:29Speaker 1: but the address on the registration was a mailbox at
- 8:31Speaker 1: a shipping store that had closed fourteen months earlier. He
- 8:35Speaker 1: looked at what had stopped alongside those transfers. Gloria's automatic
- 8:40Speaker 1: donation to the Mercer Avenue Church Hall, the room where
- 8:43Speaker 1: her A meetings were held, had been eliminated. The monthly
- 8:48Speaker 1: payment she'd been making to Pat, her sponsor for structured
- 8:51Speaker 1: sessions gone. A quarterly payment to a therapy practice also gone.
- 8:58Speaker 1: The money had not evaporate, it had moved into Vickers
- 9:02Speaker 1: Wellness Consulting, and from there into a structure. Barry spent
- 9:06Speaker 1: two weeks mapping shell accounts, shell accounts, a storage unit
- 9:12Speaker 1: rented under the company name since March of twenty nineteen,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and bins inside that unit containing documentation of a parallel
- 9:20Speaker 1: financial architecture built entirely from Gloria's assets. Here is the
- 9:25Speaker 1: image Barry could not stop returning to. The money flow
- 9:30Speaker 1: and the contact flow were mirrors of each other. As
- 9:34Speaker 1: the transfers to Vickers increased, the payments to every other
- 9:37Speaker 1: person in Gloria's life decreased. As her financial obligations to
- 9:42Speaker 1: her own recovery eroded, her financial obligations to Vickers deepened,
- 9:47Speaker 1: one ledger replacing another. But the financial structure, as complete
- 9:51Speaker 1: as it was, was not the thing that opened the
- 9:53Speaker 1: larger question. The thing that opened it was a protocol.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Vickers had presented a wellness monitoring protocole when he first
- 10:01Speaker 1: entered Gloria's life. It was professional looking, typed with headers
- 10:06Speaker 1: and subsections. It described a screening process, regular checks for alcohol, opioids, methinphetamine,
- 10:14Speaker 1: regular documentation, accountability structures. What the protocol did not include
- 10:19Speaker 1: was any test for benzodiazepines. This was not an oversight.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Barry identified this early, noted it, and set it aside.
- 10:28Speaker 1: He did not yet have the evidence to say what
- 10:31Speaker 1: it meant, but he wrote one word next to it
- 10:33Speaker 1: in his own notebook, intentional. The question mark stayed there
- 10:37Speaker 1: for six weeks. Then doctor Anita Marsh's records came in
- 10:42Speaker 1: two visits over eight months. Fatigue, cognitive blunting, disrupted sleep,
- 10:48Speaker 1: notes consistent with prolonged low dose benzodiazepine use, no test ordered,
- 10:54Speaker 1: no specific cause to point to. Marsh had seen something real,
- 10:58Speaker 1: she had documented it accurately, She had not been given
- 11:02Speaker 1: the frame to interpret it. The question mark came off
- 11:05Speaker 1: the page. Vickers had designed a monitoring system that would
- 11:09Speaker 1: catch every substance except the one he was delivering. There
- 11:13Speaker 1: is a moment in most investigations when the scattered pieces
- 11:17Speaker 1: stopped being separate and become a single thing. For Barry,
- 11:21Speaker 1: that moment came when he requested Paul Vickers's credentials from
- 11:26Speaker 1: the three certifying organizations Vickers had listed. The first organization
- 11:31Speaker 1: had no record of him, the second had no record
- 11:34Speaker 1: of him. The third could not be located the address
- 11:38Speaker 1: on their website resolved to an empty office park in
- 11:42Speaker 1: a state Vickers had never lived in. The insurance certificate
- 11:46Speaker 1: number he had provided was real. It belonged to a
- 11:49Speaker 1: landscaping company registered in a different state entirely. Barry read
- 11:54Speaker 1: this finding sitting at a table in Diane's kitchen. He
- 11:58Speaker 1: had driven forty minutes to deliver it in person because
- 12:02Speaker 1: he did not think a phone call was the right way.
- 12:05Speaker 1: Diane put her hand flat on the table and was
- 12:07Speaker 1: quiet for a moment. Then she asked a question Barry
- 12:11Speaker 1: did not expect. She said, how did he know what
- 12:15Speaker 1: Sandra's staff were going to do? It was the right
- 12:18Speaker 1: question at exactly the right time. Sandra okafor had organized
- 12:22Speaker 1: the staff gift. She had collected contributions, researched options, and
- 12:27Speaker 1: found Vickers through what appeared to be a professional listing.
- 12:31Speaker 1: The listing was real, the reviews were positive, the response
- 12:35Speaker 1: time was fast. Vickers had presented himself by the time
- 12:39Speaker 1: Sandra contacted him as the obvious answer to a specific need.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Barry went back to the listing. The profile had been
- 12:47Speaker 1: created fourteen months before Sandra searched for it in June
- 12:50Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen, and the reviews, all of them had
- 12:55Speaker 1: been posted in a six week window between mid May
- 12:59Speaker 1: and late June of twenty eighteen. That six week window
- 13:03Speaker 1: ended eight days before Sandra made contact. He had positioned himself.
- 13:08Speaker 1: He had not stumbled into this. That realization changed the
- 13:12Speaker 1: shape of everything Berry had built. The isolation was not opportunistic.
- 13:18Speaker 1: The credential fraud was not a short cut. The benzodiazepine
- 13:21Speaker 1: protocol was not an improvisation. This had been constructed in
- 13:26Speaker 1: sequence with specific timing around a specific person. The question
- 13:30Speaker 1: Barry had been unable to answer until now Why Gloria
- 13:35Speaker 1: resolved into a different, harder question. Had Vickers done this before?
- 13:40Speaker 1: Picture the storage unit on the morning of August fourteenth,
- 13:43Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, before Judith Cook opened the door. The unit
- 13:48Speaker 1: had been rented under the name Vicker's Wellness Consulting since March.
- 13:52Speaker 1: Inside Bins Files a financial architecture. No one had been
- 13:58Speaker 1: meant to find and gla Gloria Jones, motionless on the floor,
- 14:02Speaker 1: a ceramic mug of warm camomile tea beside her, no kettle,
- 14:07Speaker 1: no kitchen, the nearest outlet twenty feet away, extension cord unplugged.
- 14:13Speaker 1: The warmth of that tea is the fact Barry kept
- 14:16Speaker 1: coming back to even after the financial structure had been
- 14:19Speaker 1: mapped and the credentials had been exposed and the protocol
- 14:23Speaker 1: gap had been documented, because the warmth meant something specific.
- 14:28Speaker 1: It meant someone had been there very recently. It meant
- 14:32Speaker 1: the situation was not abandoned. It meant Gloria had been
- 14:35Speaker 1: delivered there. One version of what happened is the most
- 14:38Speaker 1: literal reading of the evidence. Vickers cornered the financial structure
- 14:44Speaker 1: was near collapse, and there is evidence he knew it.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Moved Gloria to the unit as a means of control.
- 14:50Speaker 1: The tea was brought because the dosing required liquid delivery.
- 14:55Speaker 1: The warmth of it was simply a function of timing.
- 14:57Speaker 1: He had been there minutes before Cook. But that version
- 15:01Speaker 1: has a problem. The extension cord was unplugged, not missing,
- 15:06Speaker 1: not cut, unplugged, which means someone had plugged it in
- 15:10Speaker 1: at some earlier point and then removed the connection deliberately.
- 15:14Speaker 1: The bins were organized, not panicked. The financial documentation was
- 15:19Speaker 1: filed by category. This was not a man improvising under pressure.
- 15:24Speaker 1: This was a man who had done this before. The
- 15:27Speaker 1: post appeal statement Vickers gave six weeks after his second
- 15:30Speaker 1: appeal was denied in the spring of twenty twenty three,
- 15:34Speaker 1: confirmed what the evidence had always implied. He described the
- 15:37Speaker 1: selection of Gloria, the timing of each phase, and the
- 15:41Speaker 1: precise dosage, and then, at the end of a long
- 15:45Speaker 1: recorded statement, he said, without being asked, he had done
- 15:49Speaker 1: it before. The question Barry had written in his notebook
- 15:53Speaker 1: two years earlier, had he done this before? Was not
- 15:57Speaker 1: answered by anyone who had been looking for the answer.
- 16:01Speaker 1: It was answered by Kevin Stall, a forensic analyst, running
- 16:05Speaker 1: a routine cross reference after the Pallister conviction entered the
- 16:08Speaker 1: state system. Stall found a partial DNA profile from a
- 16:12Speaker 1: scene in a neighboring county. A woman named Alice Pruitt,
- 16:16Speaker 1: thirty one years old, had died in twenty sixteen. The
- 16:20Speaker 1: cause of death had been ruled a benzodiazepine interaction accidental.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Vickers had been interviewed at the time as a peripheral
- 16:28Speaker 1: contact and released. No one connected him further. The partial
- 16:32Speaker 1: profile from the Pruetz scene matched a sample taken from
- 16:35Speaker 1: the Pallister storage unit. No one had been looking for
- 16:39Speaker 1: that match. It surfaced because a database was queried and
- 16:42Speaker 1: a number came back, and Kevin stall followed the number.
- 16:46Speaker 1: The warmth of the tea in Unit forty seven was
- 16:49Speaker 1: not the beginning of anything. It was somewhere in the
- 16:52Speaker 1: middle of a sequence that had started at minimum three
- 16:55Speaker 1: years earlier in a neighboring county with a woman the
- 16:58Speaker 1: system had already classic as an accident. Paul Vickers was
- 17:03Speaker 1: arrested five days after Judith Cook found Gloria in Unit
- 17:08Speaker 1: forty seven. The charges were felony, assault, unlawful imprisonment, and
- 17:13Speaker 1: financial exploitation. He was taken into custody on August nineteen,
- 17:18Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, in Eastern Pallaster. The trial ran nine days
- 17:23Speaker 1: in February of twenty twenty. Vickers did not testify. The
- 17:27Speaker 1: jury deliberated for four hours, guilty on all counts eleven years.
- 17:33Speaker 1: He filed two appeals. The first failed, the second was
- 17:37Speaker 1: denied in the spring of twenty twenty three. Six weeks
- 17:40Speaker 1: after that denial, Vickers gave a recorded statement no one
- 17:45Speaker 1: compelled him to speak. He described how he had selected Gloria.
- 17:49Speaker 1: He described the timing of each phase, He gave the
- 17:52Speaker 1: precise dosage, and then, without being asked, he said he
- 17:56Speaker 1: had done it before. That statement did not surface in
- 18:00Speaker 1: any of the proceedings that had already concluded. It came
- 18:03Speaker 1: after everything was settled. It came when there was nothing
- 18:07Speaker 1: left to negotiate. The Alice Pruet charges were filed in
- 18:11Speaker 1: the fall of twenty twenty three. The Pruet family had
- 18:15Speaker 1: been notified that summer, seven years after Alice died and
- 18:19Speaker 1: was classified as an accident in a neighboring county. They
- 18:23Speaker 1: had spent those seven years with a ruled cause of
- 18:25Speaker 1: death that was never questioned again until a number came
- 18:29Speaker 1: back from a database query and Kevin Stall followed it.
- 18:32Speaker 1: No investigator had been assigned to find that connection. No
- 18:36Speaker 1: task force had been looking. A routine cross reference ran
- 18:40Speaker 1: after the Pallister conviction entered the state system, and the
- 18:44Speaker 1: partial profile appeared because the system was asked a different
- 18:48Speaker 1: question and the answer happened to be there. That is
- 18:52Speaker 1: what the record shows, not a breakthrough, a coincidence of procedure.
- 18:58Speaker 1: Gloria returned to Pallister Animal Care in October of twenty nineteen,
- 19:03Speaker 1: ten weeks after she was found in the storage unit.
- 19:07Speaker 1: The forensic toxicology report confirmed no prior history of benzodiazepine use.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Her sobriety from alcohol had been continuous since age twenty three.
- 19:17Speaker 1: It had never broken. The February twenty eighteen episode at Diane's,
- 19:23Speaker 1: the one Barry later called an apparent relapse, was not
- 19:26Speaker 1: a relapse. Vickers had dosed her before she arrived. The
- 19:31Speaker 1: record she had maintained, the count she had kept for
- 19:34Speaker 1: five years, was never interrupted by her own choices, not once.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Within three weeks of her hospital discharge, Gloria drove to
- 19:43Speaker 1: Diane Morro's house on a Thursday. She has not missed
- 19:46Speaker 1: a Thursday. Since there is something in this case that
- 19:50Speaker 1: resists the categories the justice system uses to contain it.
- 19:54Speaker 1: Eleven years is a sentence, a database match is a result,
- 19:58Speaker 1: A recorded statement is evidence. These are the structures the
- 20:01Speaker 1: record provides, and they are real and they matter. But
- 20:05Speaker 1: the mechanism Vicars used had no name in the charging documents.
- 20:10Speaker 1: The gradual reassignment of Gloria's perception, the slow transfer of
- 20:14Speaker 1: her confidence in her own judgment to his, that was
- 20:18Speaker 1: never itemized on a form. The screening protocol he designed,
- 20:21Speaker 1: the one that tested for alcohol and opioids and meth amphetamie,
- 20:26Speaker 1: and never by his own authorship for benzodiazepines, that was
- 20:30Speaker 1: not a gap some one discovered. It was a feature.
- 20:34Speaker 1: It was designed to be invisible to the very system
- 20:38Speaker 1: meant to protect her. Gloria recognized that something was wrong
- 20:42Speaker 1: with her. She noticed the fatigue, the cognitive blunting, the
- 20:46Speaker 1: slow erosion of the certainty she used to carry. She
- 20:50Speaker 1: stopped trusting, the noticing that is the part that does
- 20:54Speaker 1: not resolve cleanly. The tool he used was her own
- 20:57Speaker 1: judgment turned against itself. Diane Morro kept a written log.
- 21:02Speaker 1: She dated the canceled visits. She noted the changes in
- 21:06Speaker 1: how Gloria spoke. She did not know what she was documenting,
- 21:10Speaker 1: only that something had shifted and that she could not
- 21:12Speaker 1: reach it directly. She hired Vernon Barry, not because she
- 21:16Speaker 1: could name the problem, but because she could not stop
- 21:19Speaker 1: watching it get worse. That log is in the trial
- 21:22Speaker 1: record now. The canceled thursdays, the phrasing that sounded like
- 21:27Speaker 1: someone else, the calls that were shorter and somehow more correct,
- 21:31Speaker 1: as though they had been rehearsed. What Vickers dismantled was
- 21:35Speaker 1: not a life in any dramatic sense. It was something
- 21:38Speaker 1: smaller and harder to reconstruct, The ordinary private confidence of
- 21:43Speaker 1: a person who knew herself, who had rebuilt that knowledge
- 21:46Speaker 1: deliberately over nearly five years, and who had every reason
- 21:51Speaker 1: to trust it. Gloria went back to the clinic in October.
- 21:54Speaker 1: She went back to Diane on a Thursday. The count
- 21:57Speaker 1: she kept five years, the number of days she could
- 22:01Speaker 1: calculate precisely. That count was never broken. She kept showing up.
- 22:06Speaker 1: That was always what she did. This show is made
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