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Real Housewives of NY Ep 6 & Salt Lake City Ep 5 Recap · Wicked Messy

• Hali&Alicia: Hello everybody. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Wicked Messy. This is episode 21. Yes, it is. I can't believe it. Like that's insane. Literally insane. So, guys, we are covering RHONY and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Yep. It's picking up a little bit with Salt Lake, so I'm excited for that. Very. RHONY went down the drain a little bit. Yeah. This episode wasn't as good as I thought the preview looked like. So not at all. It was all right. So let's get started with RHONY. Yep. We got Moskito Madness. Yes. We're still at Moskito Island. and just so everybody knows, we do have Whiskey here. Hali's new dog. But we can't show you him because then I'll get all excited and then everything will get like Turned upside down. You might see him. We'll see. We'll see. He might make an appearance. Yep. Okay. So they didn't do a continuation of the night before. No. And it's I never want them to do that. And I actually wanted them to do that now. Like how did that end? Because didn't it end with Jessel like crying and like saying all those things and then erin ran away? Yeah, there was no end. Anything to that. so that was annoying. So we have brand new day. Yeah, we got Jessel spraying her face like a mad woman. Yeah. And then the thing gets stuck and she actually says Jesus Christ's name in vain with an F in the middle. Oh I was like, whoa. Wow. Jessel. Naughty, naughty. We then have Daisy complaining, walking down to an empty kitchen saying, oh my gosh, do I have to make my own coffee and then makes a comment in her confessional. How many stars is the Marriott? this is a nice Marriott. Are you kidding me? This house is not not a marri- I just can't, I can't with the I just wonder if when she watches this back, if she's like, wow, I'm an asshole. Definitely she is so embarrassed right now about how she acted. Because it's clearly out of jealousy. A hundred percent. And she won't stop. And she it makes her look so bad. I there's no doubt that she's not watching this cringing. And then I thought it was interesting that production kept the portion of her FaceTiming Martha in this episode, saying, oh my god, that's beautiful. I wish I was there. And it was almost like, Well, see, Martha actually does think it's beautiful, so you eat your fucking words. Literally. I was like, So why aren't you talking shit with Martha now? Exactly. Exactly. Like it is so stupid. I just can't, yeah. Ridiculous. But Martha was a bitch on that FaceTime really quick with the mask. She's like, take that ugly thing off your face. Martha, it's a fucking mud mask. Like it's supposed to not look good. Martha Martha doesn't know what's going on. Martha didn't know she was supposed to be talking shit. No, and she's got Jacques Torres Easter egg that he made for her behind. He's like the master chocolatier. Like that's a big deal that he shipped that. Yeah. Probably solid chocolate too, which is insane. my gosh. Yeah, it must be thousands. Thousands, darling. Thousands. So we got some day bed drama. Okay. So Sai and Jessel touch base over by the day beds. Yep. And Jessel says she better not be questioned about her outfits ever again. Yes. Because this is couture. Yes. and she's still pissed about that that plastic comment from Erika, even though it was plastic. Right. Carole and Erin end up joining the two ladies by the day beds though yeah. and Carole starts saying that it's not cool if Jessel is Googling people. Right. And if she googles Carole, Carole's screwed. Yeah. Obviously referring to the Epstein of it all. Right. then we have the Taco Bell Queen Erika and big bully Erin, who are going for a walk to clear the air between the two of them while this is happening. Going for a hike, yep. so Erika apologizes for the insurance scam comments and insists that it was a joke and it was not meant to be vicious. Right. And during this hike and their conversation, Erin is also now saying What is she saying? That Sai talks shit about Jessel. So it's almost like Erin's trying to flip the script here. It's like you two were going on a hike to like make up so that like this wasn't an issue about the insurance comment. And like now immediately Erin's back into, well, Sai's doing this and talking shit about Jessel. Like, I'm like, Erin, can you stop for one fucking second? She doesn't want to stop. She can't. She is obsessed with Jessel. Now, I'm actually wondering at this point if Jessel was right in the beginning. And it's like this girl has been harassing her. I know. Because Jessel's like four years out of nowhere like said that about me at the girl ultimate girls trip. And it's like, no, I'm starting to think maybe she does have like a target on her back. I know, because it's multiple people coming to Jessel being like, this girl will not stop. And we saw it with our own eyes. Literally. That should have been an End of a nice scene where they said, you know what, water under the bridge. And it just opened up into something else because erin had to make it so. Exactly. Exactly. And just really quick, going back to Sai and Jessel when they were hanging out on the day beds or whatever, or wherever they were by the beach. this is when Erin, we find out that Erin told Jenna Lyons about David and Sai separating. And this is the initial conversation about it. And then in Sai's obviously pissed, but she hasn't confronted Erin about it. And I was just like, what the fuck? But my question with this is why would Jenna Lyons reach out to Sai? Was she? I don't know. This just seemed weird to me because Jenna Lyons isn't like a gossip queen. So, like for her to reach out to Sai to obviously shed light on like Erin's talking to someone, and that someone told me, and now I'm aware of your separation. I don't know. I thought that was interesting. Well, it's possible because at that point it's like people had heard around town, so I mean they were friends. She was probably reaching out, not realizing that it shouldn't have been around town. Right, right. Is what I'm assuming. Cause Jenna doesn't seem like someone that would get in on like a production scam. That's what I'm saying. But you think she wasn't aware they were filming at this point? Well, it doesn't sound like they were filming at that point. When Jenna reached out to Sai? Yeah. Well, how do you know that though? Because Sai said, Well, did you read it in the news? And the news came out and broke on TMZ while they were filming. Yeah, I mean it it's possible, but I don't know, it just seemed interest I was like, Well, this is so random. Yeah. I just I feel like Jenna really doesn't give a shit and that's why Jenna's not on the show anymore. Right. Right. But either way, it whatever way you flip it, no one was supposed to know. Yeah. And Erin was one of the only people that did know. And she's like, Well, it was just news around town. Okay, I'm skipping ahead. Okay. Yeah. So, meanwhile, okay, we have Jessel explaining the same thing to Sai about how that was not supposed to be a malicious comment about the insurance fraud. Okay, we have simultaneous scenes going on. Yes. And Sai says Erin didn't even have insurance on the items that she lost. So obviously it's not a fraud situation. Right. Well, that was confusing to me. It sounds like they had some sort of insurance. They didn't have personal insurance though, for like the belongings. So maybe they had flood insurance, but not for the items that were ruined. Okay. Which I was like, okay. Which sounds like those are memory oriented and not money oriented. So why like exactly. I'm like, what? Yeah. What? Doesn't make sense. Yeah, see, that's a little. so yes. So then talking about Abe, Erin's husband, Jessel says, how do we How does this keep happening to someone that's married to an attorney? I would fire that guy. But that doesn't make sense to me either, because what does an attorney have to do with insurance? Well, I hope he would know you should insure your house. Well, yeah, but wouldn't anyone? I mean, when I bought my condo immediately I was like, how much insurance should I get? Looked into it, you know what I mean? Like, but I don't think like an attorney, that's not like a duty. And I doubt he's an attorney that's practicing anything to do with that. It's just a reason for her to be an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Exactly. But it that was rude though. It was like leave Abe out of it. I know this poor guy is always even dealing with Erin. I know. Now he's like to throw mud on his name on TV. God damn. oh my god. but honestly, it's in the great words of Lisa Barlow, these girls are just going around and around and around like a cotton candy machine. I'm like, please make it stop. Please make it stop. Erika does say that Jessel and Erin are not compatible and they never will. Yes. Yes. And I thought that was a powerful statement that everyone's just been acting like if they did kiss and make up right now. I actually I think Erika even said something like this. Even if right now they kissed and made up, it would be something different tomorrow. Because they're not compatible. No, they're really like each other. No, and it's just I think it's a lot of jealousy that comes from Erin and that ignites Jessel because I really don't think Jessel is. a mean spirited person at all or has those type of intentions and that's really terrible. The same way that erin does. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. Yep. I think that she knows how to defend herself. Right. I don't think she'd be pulling this shit if she didn't have to. So then we get to the Epstein of it all. Okay. We have group two, which is Daisy, Hailey, and Carole, who are still talking about Googling people. And Carole says, you wouldn't really have to dig for my bad stuff. It's all on page one. Yes. And then Daisy out of nowhere points to Hailey and says, It's gotta be nothing compared to Hailey's, huh? And Hailey's like, wait, what? I know. And Carole's like, uhh yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, I'm on the Epstein list. So I I don't know if you could really compare that. Exactly. And Daisy, I think she was even in the dark about this. Like she seemed surprised. I'm like, where I think so too. I think she has, yeah. I I don't know. I I really don't love Daisy anymore. And just I never really actually liked her that much, but more and more I'm like, I wanted to like her. She flips different personalities and like different sides. And I don't like that. You know what she is? She's a chameleon. the people that whatever she's around, she that's her new personality. Exactly. Exactly. Have one of her own. That's literally her. But yeah, Daisy's in the dark about this, okay? Yep. so Carole starts saying, I never met Jeffrey. Ghislaine never mentioned him to me. Right. And then Sai comes in and starts to question Carole about this. Yeah, going hard. Really hard, pressing her for answers. Yeah. Were they friends? How did you meet? Carole said she was friendly with Ghislaine but never hung out with her one-on-one. Yep. and essentially that Ghislaine is a social climber, and anyone who has power, money, Ghislaine is right there trying to become friends with them, and that's exactly what happened. I forget Carole's maiden names, but she said. Ghislaine never had any interest in being friends with Carole so-and-so, but she did Riccaford or something weird. Yeah. But she does did have an interest in Carole Radziwill Yes. Yes. which I thought was interesting. Very interesting. if you had money, access to power, power or famous last name, Ghislaine would make it her mission to get to know you. Yes. If you lined ten women and asked which one is a part of an international sex traffic ring, you wouldn't pick her. Yes. Now That comment seemed to rub Sai the wrong way for some reason. She really didn't like that. So Sai brings out her daughter and says, Well, if somebody in this group is going to behave like that, I have a daughter. and I need to know. Right. And Carole worded it well, I forget. She said, How are you going to use your child as a sword and a shield? A sword and as a shield. Exactly. For something like that. this. And it's true. Like what shut up, Sai. You're sitting here with your friends, quote unquote, why are you becoming so defensive like that? I don't know who has the balls to immediately be so accusatory to Carole. first off, if she was a part of the sex trafficking ring, why would she be sitting on national television, fine with them asking questions about it in general? I just, I don't know. That just seemed like What are you thinking, Sai? Why are you acting so? And specifically more so, it's like if you want to actually get into it, so you're telling me that what for your little show, you're willing to sit across from go on vacation with the person that you think is a part of we're talking about something that's fucking serious here. This is there's nothing like this is so gross that she even brought this to light. Yeah. So you're saying that you if you think there's a possibility that you're around someone that knows people that know people that could literally ruin your child's life. Right. And you obviously you don't think that if you're willing to be on a cast with them. Yeah. If any of you thought Carole was involved, you would never be on cast with her. You would never get your name in the mud like that. So how dare you? Exactly. This really pissed me off. And this pissed Daisy off as well because she's like, What are you doing? why are you acting that way? Yeah. Daisy is pissed with Sai's approach. but yeah, Daisy defends her and she doesn't like her approach and you know, Sai says, Well, no, I'm gonna ask as many questions as I need to to know her affiliation to this. Yeah. and Sai just keeps reaching for these gotcha moments. I know. And none of them land. And Carole's handling herself very well. And unfortunately, sai pushes her to a point that in order to justify herself, she ends up revealing that she had been sexually assaulted by a professor in college. Yeah, which was terrible. And she said that multiple students, female students, were getting sexually assaulted by this professor, but because he was, you know. everyone loved him and he's got all these credentials. He was just getting away with it, which is crazy. yeah it's crazy. So now we start talking about Hailey's tabloid drama. Yep. And Hailey brings up how her past with jon still follows her. And Daisy gets super dismissive to everything that she's saying and says, Al although she's not wrong, she's like, these things are not the same. Yeah, no shit. But she also makes a statement that no one from Gen Z knows who jon Gosselin is. But honey, the world is not just comprised of Gen Z. boomers are online here. the everyone majority of people know jon and Kate plus eight. What do you mean? And the watchers, like, ladies, stop getting like so excited about younger people watching your show. The reality is best you got is millennials. Yeah. Underneath us, they'll watch here and there. They're probably not even watching RHONY. They don't care about New York. Exactly. Exactly. Sit down. but super dismissive. And then Hailey is about to destroy her. And then goes, well, I do want you to do my lashes later, so I won't say anything. I know, she holds back so much. And then it's actually pretty funny to see Erika's confessional during this whole thing. And Erika's like, Daisy is the biggest hypocrite for coming after Hailey. Right? Yeah. Yeah, Daisy went after Hailey. Yeah. For that. So she's like, You're the biggest hypocrite. I forget what she said, I should have written more notes on that, but for some reason she said that. Okay. Sai and Hailey though, because Hailey can't just let it go, but she wants her lashes done. So she goes back to her room with Sai and she's extremely upset. She's crying and stuff. It's just I felt really bad for her. So now we have Carole and Daisy who are getting drinks by the pool. And we're just beboping around with all these groups. I'm getting dizzy. I know. Like make them stay in one place. I know. So Carole asked Daisy, who's Sai's best friend, if Sai's always like that. And before she can even really answer the other ladies join. Yeah. Daisy asks Sai right away, Are you doing better? I know. Inside goes, I'm doing great. I'm doing awesome. She was like, I was never in a bad mood. What are you talking about? Which is like, I don't know. There's a certain way that like Daisy's face looks at some points after she makes these questions like says these questions or like makes statements. And I'm like, you're like playing the Erin game. I think she is because okay, let's pause for a second. Yeah. I would if we were in this situation and we got sent off to an island, okay? And I wouldn't care what you said to any of these bitches. Right. I would never tell you not to do something. Right. That's her best friend. I wouldn't care if you said anything to any of these girls. Right. I would never call them out. So she's drinking the Kool-Aid. So Sai asks Carole if she was offensive earlier and Daisy goes, Yes. It's the delivery. Yeah. Yeah, very blunt. So Sai says, Daisy, are you a teacher? I know. And Daisy says, Okay, keep acting like that and people won't like you. Yeah. Right. And Sai says, Who doesn't like me? I know. She's got that like I'm gonna be a bully to like Make things better. You know what I mean? Exactly. And then somehow it's but back to the popcorn ceilings, and then I mentally disconnected. I was like, I don't care about this part. Well, Jessel did too. She was like, not the fucking popcorn ceilings. Yeah, like, guys, stop. You're like, you're gonna ruin the whole season if you hold on to this for too long. Literally. Hold on to it for that long. But also Erin speaks up at this point and she says something about Sai and Daisy's friendship and how she she was like, Well, there's a certain there's certain things you expect with a certain level of friendship. And Sai bites her head right off and says, funny, you may say that because you're out there talking about me. Yep, and you told Jenna Lyons. Yes. And Erin is what? No. She looked so guilty. she was. And she goes she was caught. Yeah, no, I didn't say that. Jenna said that, she didn't say that. You don't know the truth. Yeah, it's like ridiculous. Ridiculous. And then Sai says some stupid one liner about queeefing other people's business. And the girls just take it so far and I'm like, let's get back on track, ladies. Well and she's now in real life, as of this episode airing, she posted a video of saying queefing. She like makes it bigger with her fingers on Instagram. They're all doing these things and making videos about things that are being said on episodes. It's kind of too much. I'm like, you guys are grown women. It's it's desperate. Relax. It's desperate. Literally. So desperate. We're not in high school. Now, size makeup artist alleges erin spread rumors about Pavit being gay and getting caught in Equinox Gym. Yeah. Yeah. what the hell? Which like Yes, it looks on this episode like this wasn't set up, but could Sai have given or sent a text to her makeup artist saying, Hey, I'm gonna call you and you have to make sure that you say this. Possible. Yeah. Very how do we know? Very possible, right. We're talking Erin and Sai. Andy didn't show his face on that FaceTime, which I thought was really weird. Well, I'm sure he was like, I'll only do it if you don't get me actually dragged into this. Right, right. But he will be no matter what. Yeah. so while all this is happening, Erin cuts her foot on glass. Yeah. Well, that was before that phone call. And she is really crying and Erika checks on her, and in her confessional, she says, I'm checking on Erin for two reasons. Reason number one is, of course, I want to make sure she's okay. I care. Reason number two is I want to make sure she doesn't sue me. Yeah. Erin's totally the suing type. she 100% is. 100,000 percent. So then we have tennis. Yes. Ends with the girls. Tipsy tennis. Yeah, tipsy tennis. Which looks really fun, especially with the big rackets. It did. It did. But it was a big group group activity that was supposed to be goofy and I don't think we really needed that scene. No, like we're not getting along. No one likes each other here. Yeah. It's like, all right. So that's all I had. Well, and then one thing I did pick up on during Tipsy Tennis is Sai injures her knee, right? And she starts crying and everything. Everyone gets up. Erin stays seated. Yeah, Erin the entire time. And remember, Erin said a few episodes ago, Sai's really going through things. Like she doesn't give a shit about Sai. I know, I know. Erin cares about Erin. And then they get the girl to come over the medic or whatever. And Daisy's comment to Erika goes. we may have to call Ankur and get a private jet. This is an emergency. yeah! I was like, who the fuck do you think you are telling Erika to call her husband and get a private jet for a knee? That she she's fine, her bones not sticking out. Yeah, who? They're gonna be like ice it, dude. What? Why does Daisy think that she's Martha Stewart? I don't know. Someone got her like really hyped because she's oh My god, delusional dude and even when they were in the pool, they brought over those floating things with the food, which was awesome. And the girl even specified you could hear, she goes, This is the vegetarian one. I was like, take that, Daisy. You got what you wanted. Yep. interesting. Yeah. These bitches are bitches. That's what I'll say. However, you've been busy this weekend, but I have been like throwing so many things in Instagram that you're not able to keep up yet, but there's a lot of shit going on right now in real life between you're gonna die. So between Carole and Jessel on Instagram. I saw that one. Okay, because they Pavit made that video of Equinox making fun and then they went back and forth. Now Jessel and Tamra are going back and forth. Yeah so Tamra was on watch what happens live and made a comment about Jessel and I forget what the fucking comment was right now, but I can't think of it. It's something about Jessel not being smart or something, I believe. And then Jessel commented on the video saying, well, I think Tamra, you're talking about yourself, blah, blah, blah. And then Tamra comes back and goes, Honey, I don't know. She fixes her grammar on one of the words and then says, like, please talk to me when you've been on 16 seasons of a reality TV show. Yeah, it's really bad. You gotta see it. It's crazy. Things are popping off. Do you wanna know what's crazy? That episode of Watch What Happens. A guy I went to college with, he podcasts about reality TV. oh really? He was the Bravo Bottoms and they were at the bar. my god. Yeah, he made it. No way. Yeah. that's amazing. Good job, Mike. Jeez. You made it. that's amazing. I know. I know. Okay. So let's talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Yes. Hypocrisy and bull. Do you know that I heard the song on Instagram before I watched this episode and I almost sent it to you to be like, Did you know Lisa came out with a new song? And then I watched this episode and I was like, Well, she's gonna know now, so I didn't send it to you. I was like, What the They released it too early. I just want to say that I think Lisa in her tagline is AI. It's not her. It's not. I skip over intros. You need I gotta watch it. Yeah. Because you don't understand. It's it's not like, it doesn't look like it's not Lisa. So this is interesting you say this because I just recently watched the new season of The Kardashians and I don't know if you've watched it, but the first episode they do this whole skit of them being AI. And I was like, this is so weird. Like What? Yeah. I saw that whole thing. I was like, okay. But I wouldn't put it past Lisa Barlow to be like, I'm having a bad day, I can't. Just put AI. I know. Yeah. It has to be. Yeah. Because it didn't look like the other girls were as weird. Interesting. I gotta check it out. So yeah, it's a new day and the girls are soaking up the slowness of the morning. Lisa's getting glam. And she's in her bathroom getting ready. Yep. Heather and Whitney grab some Starbucks and are just walking and talking. Yep. So Whit opens up to Heather. And they start by reflecting on the night before. And Whitney says that last night made her realize that she can be a friend to Bronwyn. Yes. Although I thought they were already friends. Me too. I was they were confused playing pickleball together and stuff and had a crush on each other. Remember that whole fake storyline? Don't understand. but she says this because she needs friends right now. Right. And at that point she reveals that she and Justin hadn't been intimate for some time and are having a hard time. And she's just questioning the future. Yeah. Heather asks, How long has it been since you've been intimate? And Whitney won't give a number. She just said she's been in the guest room for a while. I'm like, how long has it been? I know. What is the shame? The thing is, you it is nobody's business, but you have made it your mission to convince the world that you guys cannot keep your hands off each other. Right. This was your whole shtick. This is why he got fired from the biggest job of his life. And now you want your details out. I don't like that. Yeah. I don't either. All or nothing, okay? And were you aware because she then reveals the part where she shaved her head 10 years ago or 20 years ago? What was that, 2006 or 2016? I forget. I think it was 2006. Yeah, so 20 years ago when they were living in San Fran. What the fuck? It's so weird. So weird. And then she makes a comment that she had a two-year-old and then she just had another baby, her s her son. And and that Justin raised her. In her you're in your twenties at that point. What do you mean Justin raised you? You're a grown adult in your twenties. I don't know. Yeah, I thought that was a weird thing to say. I mean, she says, you know, I've been staring down the barrel at 40. Yeah. And I feel like Justin honestly raised me. And she brings up her Mormon upbringing and how it kind of complicates how she thinks about leaving. Right. And Heather says, Is divorce an option for you? And Whitney says, I don't know. I know. And it's just, you know. And I actually wrote down in here that so they filmed from originally it was supposed to be February of this year, but then they had to pause it because of Robert Jr. in passing. So then March they picked up the cameras and then they finished filming in May. And the filing that she just did against Justin to divorce him just happened in October. So that's like five months. So what do you mean you weren't thinking of divorce? Did you not want to say that on camera? I again I don't get it. I I don't know. I don't know what she's hiding or but they did actually file. So it's not even like it's a storyline. I know. Because it did happen. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like what are you doing? I don't know. And that's your cousin. Something was a foot. Interesting. But yeah. So at this point, Heather kind of knows What's going on with Whitney and Angie and is not saying anything to right? She's being good. She is. She's being a good, good friend, I will say. Good confidant. Yes. So we have now the Sprinter van ride. And Bronwyn pulls out the ultimate act of patheticness and she tells the girls that Brandon will be meeting up with them on this trip. Yes. But did you notice how Whitney came onto the the Sprinter van? She had the ball gag in her mouth. oh yeah. I was like, I can't. And she actually walks through a hotel lobby with that thing in her mouth. Like, that takes some balls. I'll give her that. These girls are crazy. They are crazy. so the other girls are confused as to why she would do this because it's a girls' trip. And see, I think it's weird when people do this. Super weird when they do this on these shows and real life. But these shows who invite you know that the other girls didn't invite their guys. So now, like you just do this because it's your trip before you came over to record this podcast. I came across something on Instagram, a new story that Bronwyn paid Brandon fifteen thousand dollars to come to that trip, flew him out there, paid for everything, everything that he ate, did everything. And then eventually they broke up. But she will not confirm the split. And I guess on Watch What Happens Live recently. She was asked about Brandon and she said, Who? Well, she's definitely not with him, but she's with some other guy that was that's married. I know. Actually, you know what she said to Andy? She said, Baby doll, he was six boyfriends ago. I've been having a hot girl summer. She's so gross. I know. She's disgusting. my god, she really is. God, I can't stand her. Who says that? That's my that was my sixth boyfriend. Like, what? You what? You're not even divorced. Jesus. So Britani does say in her confessional that she does want to see Brandon and Broadwin in person as a couple to see if they have chemistry because from where she's standing, she doesn't see it. Yeah, and fuck off, dude. I mean, it's true though. I would want if I were the girls, I'd be like, you want to put your brand new boy toy on camera? Go ahead, ruin your own life. Right. Anyone with a brain would say that's a dumb idea. So another thing in real life that just came out and I saw in the Kardashians is that Brandon was the model with Khloe Kardashian for her newest perfume blue, XO Blue. And it's in the episode two. And he's they're all over each other and everything. And he was super sweet to her. And she even was like, I have a very handsome model and I'm super nervous. And I don't know the time frame of these two things. I mean, yeah, that was a job for him. But I bet bronwyn's like, what the fuck? This is weird. Yeah, weird Bronwyn think she's cool, dude. She really thinks I if she paid this dude to go on, like I mean, I it's different paying for everything. Yeah, of course you're gonna pay for everything. To pay you money? $15,000. Well, you gotta think about it. I mean, is he getting anything for being on the show? Like, or do they say, like, no, you're a boyfriend of and like they're not gonna pay you? But but you're missing the point. The point is if they were a real relationship, it wouldn't matter, you'd just be there to. Court her. Right. We would never expect 15. I know. So there that's the culprit. That's true. And I think it said something in the story that I saw today About like Brandon was actually like did like her, but the money was what kept him. Right. And she does, we get to it a little bit later actually, because she pretty much admits it. Yeah. all right. Then we have the boat ride. So yeah. Angie offers Lisa unsolicited advice about her facial proportion proportion? It's called Yeah, she said I was googling and I just wanted to make sure I had everything accurate, but there's something called the golden ratio of aesthetics, where your upper lip is a third size of the bottom lip. So you've been getting too much filler in your top lip. Lisa says, I was born with a bigger upper lip. God gave me this. Angie said last year? Angie says in her confessional that I do believe that Lisa is overfilling her top lip. And I would want my friends to tell me. Right. oh my god. Okay, here's the thing though. They don't even look bad. Am I missing something? They don't even look like they have filler in them. I know. I don't I don't understand that either. And honestly, if you see in the confessional, like Angie's lips are both like Double the size they should be. And they're not it's not one third. So I'm like, you're not even following the ratio yourself, hunny bunny. Are what are you trying to like c like that a l a little lip filler? Have you looked around at the other cast? Why don't you talk to Heather? Literally. my god. Literally. Leave Lisa alone. Right, and she's saying that as she has those contacts in her eyes too, in the confessional. The ones that make her look a cuckoo. Yes. Yeah. Would you ever get lip filler? I've thought about it. Me too. I don't know. I I probably wouldn't. Yeah. Because I'm one of those people like if anything could go wrong, it would happen to me. Literally. Yeah. And Paige and Hannah's whole thing with the the jaw filler, whatever they did, and how bad that went for Hannah. I'm like kind of terrified now. So yeah. And I don't really love the idea of an a a needle going in my lip. Like your lips are so sensitive that like I don't know, it scares me. Yeah. I've had a lip flip before, like with the Botox. Okay. And that really hurt. So I cannot imagine. I did it once and I was like, I'm never doing that again. And you couldn't even tell a difference. yeah. It's like it was a waste of money. Yeah. okay. So Bronwyn gets emotional about San Fran, her former life starting over. And Whitney is sort of quietly resonating on her own life while this is happening. Right, right. And I will say this is the only positive thing I'll say about Britani is she definitely was a good friend because she was really like consoling Bronwyn in this moment. And I was like oh, she is like a good person. Yeah, no, it's yeah, it's true. She's not fully in La La Land. Angie gets seasick. my god. And then Bronwyn makes a comment about it, being like, Well, Angie really killed the vibe of the day. It's like, bitch, I can't spawn her. I she better be gone after this year. I know. I'm all set with her. And then I just felt slighted about Meredith and Lisa. yeah, you guys are close, but you're like intentionally trying to alienate yourselves from the other girls by making inside jokes and laughing really loudly. It's like so I don't know. I don't stuff. I agree. Yeah. That's mean girls stuff. It is. It is. And it's like they're they're fan favorites too. Yeah. And it we've heard Lindsay talk about this on Summer House and stuff. There is a whole nother layer to this where they recognize who's the favorites. Right. And they know that those people have power to set the audience to go after the other person. Exactly. Exactly. And it's like and everybody knows that Meredith is a huge favorite. Lisa has just conquered the housewives the last few months. People love her. And it's like they know what they're doing. And I didn't like that. I didn't either. But you know what was really funny? The part with they did the flashback of the night before. Because They've started singing the song and practicing this hypocrisy and bullshit song. And Lisa fucking says in her confessional, or yeah, I think it was her confessional that she sounds like Beyonce. She said, I'm glad that I'm not don't have a Broadway voice. It's Beyonce. I sound like Beyonce. I'm like, what are you talking about? Literally. but we I just want to talk about the night before though, because we did get a flashback at this point from the night before. Yeah. And It's Lisa and Meredith saying how Angie is doing nonstop digs at Lisa and that all the girls are a bunch of weirdos. Meredith reveals that she's been working on a diss track. Yeah. and asks Lisa if she wants to be a part of it. She accepts. I'm like, okay, this is gonna be a shit show. Literally. They're like, let's keep the lyrics simple. I'm like, honey, don't act like you could even write a legit song. Like, let's relax. Right. so Meredith and Lisa are practicing in a corner on the boat. And then I have Yeah, then they're off the boat, and then we go to Brandon and Bronwyn in their hotel room. Yeah, she's getting glam and Brandon is just in the room hearing her talk about the other girls. Yeah. And he doesn't seem uncomfortable, he seems smug and it's fucking weird. Yeah, he's way too comfortable, way too quick. I know. I don't like it. And he's grabbing French fries and he's just chilling, and yeah, yeah. but I will say he is a very, very good looking man. He is, but there's something behind those eyes. There's something off about him. Yeah, I don't know. I do think he's very good looking, but there's something that is making me not attracted to him. Yeah. I don't know what it is. not Good intentions. That's probably what it is. So let's talk about Disco night. Okay, first of all, this is put on by Bronwyn, and I just want to know why did Bronwyn invite so many of her acquaintances? I know. who used to do this? Is Ramona. oh yeah, I can see that. She would just always invite every friend she's ever had to these things that are about everyone and it's all about her. Yep, yep. The Bronwyn. Because they're just grateful because they got invited, so they're gonna act like they're like closer than they are. Exactly. Yeah. but I do just wanna quickly plug here with that being said, that is almost time for my rewatch. So every November I rewatch all the episodes of RHONY that have Bethany on them. Yes. And it's very holiday esque. And if nobody else does it, it's I didn't make that up. There's other people in the bravo world. I've seen that everywhere. It's a very 'cause it's all holiday and it's so good. It's so good. I know. There's nothing like it. I'm so excited. I know. Okay, sorry. all right, so but this is the flashback I thought I was talking about before, and that's why I seem so confused when I was talking two minutes ago. Gotcha. And reading saying, What am I even talking about right now? This is what I thought I was gonna be talking about. Gotcha. Okay, so we have a flashback to the night before, and the girls are like had been drinking and they're walking in the street, and Bronwyn, who thinks she's so freaking cool, makes a joke about buying Brandon. ohhh No, no, no, no. This was this was when they got off the boat. Okay. And they were walking. Okay. And the girls were like, Why is he here? Blah blah blah. And then she says, Because I paid him or something. Because I bought him. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And then they're trying to get to like, he's not an escort. What do you mean? What do you mean? There was no need to take it to that point. I already I think they were trying to say, like, you're not getting it, Bronwyn. Because she was laughing it off and she was not phased by any of But she thinks she's Which was impressive. And then this picks up at the beginning of the disco party. Because they're all huddled together and they're like, well, she was just Heather's like, she was being a good sport, but essentially Todd is paying for this entire trip. Including to fly Brandon out. Yeah. And she's not wrong. Like Bronwyn doesn't have money of her own. Right. Bronwyn got knocked up when she was in the middle of school, couldn't finish. Found Todd, like, and that's all fine and good. Do whatever the fuck you want, but you're not a sugar mama, okay? Right now, you just still have access to your husband's accounts, and we don't know what's gonna happen when you get divorced at this point. How is Todd okay with this? Don't like I wonder if right now in real life he's losing his shit on her, and this divorce is really getting all fucked up because I can't im How does a man sit there knowing this is all on national TV and this is happening right like was happening right under his nose? And I don't know. She's almost mocking Todd in this whole thing. That's what I'm saying. It's crazy. Crazy. She is seems like a bad person. She seems like somebody that would you don't know what they're gonna do next. Right. Which makes them dangerous. Absolutely. I don't like her. I mean that. No, and she says this is her new era. And it's like, well, this isn't a good era. It's a horrible look for you. Horrible. And okay, I think she was that a wig she was wearing? Yeah, they all wore wigs. Actually she looks horrible with all. Whitney called hers Heredith. Because and she she made in her confessional she's like and she likes to keep it way back here. my god. So finally highly anticipated performance by the glam kittens. Jesus So Lisa and Meredith decide to perform as the glam kittens and they grab a mic and they get up on stage and start singing. Hypocrisy and bullshit and bullshit. Bronwyn's not happy about this. We even get Meredith's manipulation. and Bronwyn says she's pointing at me. But the thing they said in the confessional wasn't about bronwyn They said it was about all the girls. Right. Because I even said out loud while I was watching it, what did she do to that? Yes. Then I literally wrote that. I was like, what what is she lying about, Lisa? Because Lisa says that in her confession. I'm like, what? But then they are like, no, it's not just about Bron. But the other girl, but how is Bronlin supposed to think that it's not about her when it's at her party? And it's like, then we have all these other people that are her friends. It's like It was weird seeing behind them performing. Some people were like into it and dancing and clapping, and then other people were like, I don't know what to do right now. Bronwyn doesn't look happy. This is weird. Yes, it was weird. And it's actually wicked funny because Brandon points looks over and goes, Are you okay? I know. And she goes, It's okay. I'm devastated about it, but it's okay. I laughed out loud at that. I was like, You are such an idiot. oh my god. But meanwhile, Heather is in Bronwyn's ear saying, You need to stick up for yourself. This is your party. You need to say something. Like really, you know, trying to push her. And Bronwyn feels humiliated in front of her friends and she ends up telling Lisa and Meredith to leave. Yes. And they're like, All right, see you later. Yeah, well, they refuse to leave and keep sitting there. So then Bronwyn and all the girls get up. Well well no, they did get kicked out and then they ended up sneaking back in and did an encore. Well, they were like in a separate a a second part of the venue, I think. Yeah, they never left, but they but I think bronwyn believed that they did leave. And when they came back in, do you remember Atlanta? It was a very early season where it was somebody had a wig line, but Kenya Moore hired a marching band. Yes, yes, yes. Kenya Moore hair care. Hair care, hair care! That's what this reminded me of. They just come out of nowhere and they were just Yes that's a good comparison. I know. I thought right of it. but yes. I think this whole situation, I think Bronwyn should have gone along with it, acted like it did not faze her, started cheering them on. You gotta stick it back to them. You can't be upset like this. Especially Meredith. Exactly. She was foaming at the mouth for that. She loved it. She absolutely loved it. Girls just need to relax. It wasn't about anyone. in particular. You can't stand her my gosh. but that's pretty much where it leaves off. actually though, during bronwyn's little speech once she kicks the girls out, yeah. she says, if I thought everyone wanted a live performer, I would have sprung for someone better. I know. Heather goes, yeah, like Britani. Britani's just in the corner smiling, and then Buronman goes, Besides, it wasn't about me. It was about Britani anyways. And Britani goes, Really? I know, I know. She's in la la Land. Have you actually seen on on social media Britani is like singing at different places? She should. She has a great voice. She does. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She does a lot of like Disney songs. And I saw her singing Ariel's song. Yeah. Wow. She was really good. Yeah. She has a great voice. She does, but she's just cuckoo, but Well, that's a wrap. That's a wrap, folks. Yeah. We're about to get our lives together. So, folks, we have had a great time laughing with you today. Sure have. 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