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Furness Show 7-20: Corbin Smith, Mollywhop Monday · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: the weekend. If they hit home runs, they have a
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  Speaker 2: weekend to take home that first major of his career
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  Speaker 2: thirty nine years old. Pretty amazing stuff. Second New Zealander
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  Speaker 2: to win the Open Championship and the third New Zealander
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  Speaker 2: to win a major championship as well. Victory marked the
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  Speaker 2: third time in history. As I just mentioned, yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: always forget that she's that she's from New Zealand, but
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  Speaker 2: he's got a ways to go to catch her. Hell
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  Speaker 2: hell of a weekend. Though Spain defeated Argentina won nothing.
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  Speaker 2: We blame Andrews for the loss by Argentina. Fron Torres
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  Speaker 2: scored the game winning goal one and in six minute, basically
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  Speaker 2: the second they started the second half of the thirty
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  Speaker 2: minute overtime boom forty seconds later into the back of
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  Speaker 2: the net. Argentina did not register a shot on goal
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  Speaker 2: in regular time and the first fifteen minutes of whatever
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  Speaker 2: they call it extra time. Yeah, yeah, it just they
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  Speaker 2: picked up a red card. They embarrassed themselves on every level,
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  Speaker 2: but the tournament itself was a massive successful. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: if we you're cruising around not getting too smoked out.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of smoke in the air. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: that time of the year, right, we got to deal
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  Speaker 2: with all that stuff. A week from today we're going
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  Speaker 2: to be at Seahawk training camp and we'll get going
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  Speaker 2: for that. So yeah, it's it always kind of feels
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  Speaker 2: like summer comes and goes rather quickly, and then the
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  Speaker 2: smoke and the fires are all over the place and
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  Speaker 2: you go, yeah, still, we've got very much got summer
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  Speaker 2: here upon us. Travis is in Moger. Thanks, Papa By.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you helping out this week. We're very, very shorthanded,
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  Speaker 2: like everyone's on vacation. I guess right, everyone's gone and
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  Speaker 2: it just taps out. World Cups over.
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  Speaker 3: I'm out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm done.
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  Speaker 4: The way his team bowed out of the tournament, I
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  Speaker 4: mean great, can't blame great move on.
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  Speaker 2: His part, yeah, because we would have just we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: I'll let Chris bash him too. At one o'clock, Argentina.
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  Speaker 2: You just embarrassed yourself. Well, but Travis is in this
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  Speaker 2: week with me and we've got our normal Monday, We've
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  Speaker 2: got malliwat Monday coming up at one o'clock. Corbyn Smith
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  Speaker 2: is gonna join us at twelve twenty today. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: move him around depending on the day, but we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: do something with Corbyn from Emerald City Spectrum every day
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  Speaker 2: leading into training camp, which this year starts on a Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to think back. I do remember they
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  Speaker 2: started the training camp on a Saturday back when I
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  Speaker 2: first got here, like two thousand and seven I think
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  Speaker 2: it was. But by and large usually their weekdays, but
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  Speaker 2: they start on Saturday and Sunday. This week, we'll be
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  Speaker 2: out there on Monday because obviously we're not in the
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  Speaker 2: air on Saturdays and Sundays, but we'll be out there
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  Speaker 2: on Monday. But Corbyn's gonna join me.
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  Speaker 3: Every day.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna kind of go through some different things to discuss,
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  Speaker 2: just kind of leading in. Everyone say, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even care. It's storylines, however we want to
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  Speaker 2: call it narratives. I mean, everyone gets all ben out
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  Speaker 2: of shape. Here's my storylines, here's this, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we do. We talk about sports, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about their stories, right, storylines narratives? What are we looking for?
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  Speaker 2: Here's what to watch for. But there's a lot to discuss,
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  Speaker 2: and I know Seahawk fans are ready to go. Man
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  Speaker 2: coming off with Super Bowl, Let's let's do it. The
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  Speaker 2: first thing we're gonna talk about today. Actually I didn't
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  Speaker 2: really get a chance to last week because it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: on the air. The ownership situation and how, if at all,
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  Speaker 2: that affects things moving forward. The easy answer is we
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  Speaker 2: don't know. But we'll get into that a little bit
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  Speaker 2: more in just a couple of seconds the World Cup
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  Speaker 2: is over. We'll spend a little more time at two
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  Speaker 2: o'clock with that today. I mentioned this to Jack in
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  Speaker 2: the totality of the World Cup was a massive success
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  Speaker 2: in our country. Cities look good, I mean, and I
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  Speaker 2: just maybe we just speak for ourselves. In Seattle, this
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  Speaker 2: city shined brightly. I think this city shined brighter than
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  Speaker 2: any other place across the country. Absolutely, it just looked good,
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  Speaker 2: did it not? I mean, everything about what we did
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  Speaker 2: here was was just spot on. And we live in
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  Speaker 2: a day and age in which, and oftentimes rightfully so,
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  Speaker 2: we want to go on the attack and criticism, criticize,
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  Speaker 2: especially you know, city leaders, politicians and so forth. County leaders,
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  Speaker 2: whoever it might be, whether it was the organizing committee
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  Speaker 2: here in Seattle, I don't think. I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the Sales Sports Commission does stuff. I kind of feel
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  Speaker 2: like that's a little empty suits job over there. But
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  Speaker 2: I think Peter and the rest of the group that
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  Speaker 2: from the actual Seattle organizing committee for fee for the
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  Speaker 2: World Cup did a remark just a bang up job.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, our city's broken in so many
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  Speaker 2: different ways. But by the waterfront l great. The downtown
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  Speaker 2: Sodo area around there looked great. I was driving along
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  Speaker 2: this morning. I saw I saw a couple of people
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  Speaker 2: wearing jerseys separately, not together, but wearing Spanish jerseys. Cool.
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  Speaker 2: People are watching the games and bars and restaurants. The
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  Speaker 2: only place that got hurt hotel maybe didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: vacancy or they're a little more vacant than they thought.
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  Speaker 2: That's a you problem because every hotel in America, we
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  Speaker 2: all do this, Everyone does the same thing. They jack
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  Speaker 2: price is up, so people look for alternatives instead of
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  Speaker 2: things six hundred dollars a night for a hotel, They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna look for an alternative. Airbnb, vrbo, all those other
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  Speaker 2: things exist that aside. Our city looked phenomenal. The tournament
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  Speaker 2: was great up until really yesterday, the championship game. There's
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  Speaker 2: no even the most die hard soccer guy in the world,
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  Speaker 2: whether it be Jackson Anders, Danny Jackson, Peter Fewing, Steve Zachawani,
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  Speaker 2: Brad Evans, any of our cast of thousands, Lexi Lawless,
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  Speaker 2: Henry anybody, Rebecca Low. You have to admit that game sucked.
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  Speaker 2: It was awful. It was boring, very much like a
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl just a few months ago. If you're a
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  Speaker 2: fan of Spain, it was phenomenal. You loved it, a
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  Speaker 2: little too stressful, you needed to score earlier, you didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to go to pks.
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  Speaker 3: But it was.
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  Speaker 2: The game itself was just awful, like Argentina was totally outclassed.
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  Speaker 2: When you don't register a shot for ninety eight minutes
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  Speaker 2: whatever it was regulation plus stoppage, and then another fifteen
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  Speaker 2: a stoppage time, I mean, you were two and a
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  Speaker 2: half hours into this thing without putting a shot on goal.
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  Speaker 2: It's embarrassing. You were awful, and then you handled yourself poorly.
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  Speaker 2: Spain was the best, wait for it, team, and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: in a team sport, the best team wins let's think
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  Speaker 2: about that with the Seahawks a little bit. Seahawks, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: they had the offensive player of the year. If you
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  Speaker 2: pull NFL fans across the country right now today, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: who is the NFL Offensive player the year last year?
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  Speaker 2: How many? What percentage would say? Jackson Smith and Jaba fifty?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe see if that Yeah, right, this the X
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  Speaker 2: are very unlike the first Super Bowl championships. Shaky. This
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  Speaker 2: is a very unassuming team a collection. I thought Brad
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  Speaker 2: Evans said it really well when he was on Jackson earlier. Today.
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  Speaker 2: Spain doesn't have the true global best player at his
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  Speaker 2: position in the world superstar right now. They just don't
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  Speaker 2: have that guy. But they're the best team and then won,
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  Speaker 2: so good for them. We get more of that kind
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  Speaker 2: of the aftershocks and the everything at two o'clock today
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  Speaker 2: before we get to Corbin. Just a quick thought on
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  Speaker 2: the Mariners. Wow, our baseball team. Just when you think
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  Speaker 2: my Twitter x feed still had a thing this morning
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  Speaker 2: that like on the little thing on today's news, I
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  Speaker 2: think it is, Yeah, it said or maybe what's happening
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  Speaker 2: some one of the little algorithms they have said something
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  Speaker 2: like Mariner fans lived at baseball team or something after
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  Speaker 2: seven nothing lost. That was Friday, like forty eight hours later.
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  Speaker 2: People are still mad. They won two of three, Guys,
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  Speaker 2: they won two of three over the weekend. Is all solved,
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  Speaker 2: all all things fixed? No there, but despite everything, they're
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  Speaker 2: only a half game out of first place. We'll delve
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  Speaker 2: into it a little bit with Chris at one o'clock
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  Speaker 2: and the Molly Want Monday minus minus one. No Nathan today,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll dive a little bit more in that. Corbyn
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  Speaker 2: had an incredible just a really good tweet by Corbyn
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  Speaker 2: the other day, and I'm gonna i'll read that to
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  Speaker 2: Chris and I'll even have Corbin kind of comment before
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  Speaker 2: we get to Seahawks in a second about just where
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  Speaker 2: fans are Dan Wilson, I would expand it to the team.
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  Speaker 2: I've listen, man, I suffered through I can guarantee you
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  Speaker 2: unless you're over the age of sixty and you're listening
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  Speaker 2: right now, if you are, then you could you could.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying, okay, Ian, I'm with you. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Know like I'm there. I've suffered through more Mariner baseball
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  Speaker 2: than most of you listening right now, because I'm and
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  Speaker 2: I've been there since. I've been watching them since seventy seven.
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  Speaker 2: So unless you're my age, you can't relate. Guys, this
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  Speaker 2: is who they are. Look, it's I understand the first
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  Speaker 2: but this is a strange year. Like to me, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not suffering through this. I'm like, all right, I'm good man.
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  Speaker 2: They're they're first of all, the most perfect number you
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  Speaker 2: can imagine, fifty and fifty on the season, sixty two
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  Speaker 2: games left to go. That is the most perfect number
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  Speaker 2: I could imagine for this baseball team. I wonder, I
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  Speaker 2: just I want to look back if they get to
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  Speaker 2: the World Series, because I think that's kind of our bar, like,
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  Speaker 2: get to the World Series. If they get to the
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  Speaker 2: World Series. If this baseball team gets the World Series, well,
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  Speaker 2: oh god forbid. If they win it, which is entirely possible,
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  Speaker 2: and people are saying there's no chance. Yes, they're one
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  Speaker 2: of five teams in the American League with a plus
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  Speaker 2: run differential right now, Wow, Like the American League's awful.
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  Speaker 2: The Ale West is god awful, but the American League
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  Speaker 2: is awful. I mean, Central's not much better. I mean
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  Speaker 2: Chicago's six games above five hundred. White Sox scare anybody.
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  Speaker 2: I mean really no, I mean you look through Boston's
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  Speaker 2: won ten at actually thirteen straight. They're kind of on
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  Speaker 2: a heater right now. But outside of that, I mean
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  Speaker 2: the Rays of lost five in row. The Yankees weren't
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  Speaker 2: doing well. They rallied for a win yesterday against the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: You look through Texas, they don't really scare you. This
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  Speaker 2: team could win the World Series, and yet there's some
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  Speaker 2: sort of acrimony built up between the fan base and
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  Speaker 2: the team, not just Dan Wilson, that I I just
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  Speaker 2: can't quite figure out. Maybe it's because of the high
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  Speaker 2: expectations this year that we expected this team to cruise along.
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  Speaker 2: We expected them to be probably you know, ten games
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  Speaker 2: above five hundred right now, you know, sixty to forty. No,
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  Speaker 2: they're fifty to fifty. A lot of baseball left to
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  Speaker 2: be played. And this has come from the guy that
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  Speaker 2: usually like all I'll tell you what I think, I
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  Speaker 2: usually don't like if they're playing crappy, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: that's not the case there. This is just a frustrating year.
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  Speaker 2: They're sleepwalking their way through. I'm I'll be shocked if
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  Speaker 2: they don't at least get to the ALCS just the
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  Speaker 2: way the playoffs stack up and how the matchups go
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  Speaker 2: and all that. And yet right now there is this
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  Speaker 2: this anger acrimony built up between the fan base and
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  Speaker 2: the team that I've never seen before. It's crazy. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll touch touch on that a little bit with Chris
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  Speaker 2: and much more. The Julio thing, I don't I know.
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  Speaker 2: We get upset Hollander about about the about you know,
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  Speaker 2: trainers and all that. That made no sense. You come
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  Speaker 2: off an All Star break after he'd already been out
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  Speaker 2: for what two weeks? Julio the one We're gonna wait
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  Speaker 2: one more day to activate him. You saw the difference
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  Speaker 2: he makes. Yeah, that was odd on Friday. That was
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  Speaker 2: odd on Friday. So all that coming up today, your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts four nine, four to five one, just coming out
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  Speaker 2: chex line four nine, four to five one. We come back.
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  Speaker 2: Smith joins us.
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  Speaker 1: Next, it's time to take a deep dive into all
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  Speaker 1: things Seahawks with Corbyn Smith, sports reporter for Emerald City Spectrum.
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  Speaker 2: Now with Corbyn Smith, here's Ian all right, here we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna do Corbn Smith's gonna join me in the next few days.
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  Speaker 2: We're leading into the started training camp this weekend. It
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  Speaker 2: is an interesting week. We're not gonna be on the
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  Speaker 2: air until next Monday. There, so our first day on
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  Speaker 2: the air at training camp is next Monday, is a
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  Speaker 2: week from today, so stand by for that. But we'll
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  Speaker 2: but before then the next few days getting ready for
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  Speaker 2: training camp. I wanted to kind of check in with
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  Speaker 2: my guy Corbin, and you know, selfishly, I like talking
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  Speaker 2: to him as well about a variety of different things.
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  Speaker 2: First and foremost, my friend, how are you. I'm good, Ian,
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me us only. I appreciate Emerald City
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  Speaker 2: Spec Drummmiver City Spectrum dot com. You guys have it
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  Speaker 2: all there. I would subscribe, not only for Seahawks, I
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  Speaker 2: think a lot. Initially it was all Seahawks fans since
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  Speaker 2: Corbyn's doing his stuff there. But I saw a cool
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  Speaker 2: story day on Wazoo. You've got Mariner stuff up there,
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  Speaker 2: cracking schedule breakdown. You guys have it all, don't you.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, We've got everything covered.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm really excited about the new writer we've got
• 13:22
  Speaker 6: covering the cracking and the torrent. So we've got our
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: hockey coverage is getting ramped up, and I'm excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: We need that in this town. Trust me, we really
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: need that in this town. So I'm excited for you
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  Speaker 2: to get that going with them. I want to before
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  Speaker 2: I get to Seahawks. I want to do this with you, buddy,
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  Speaker 2: because I saw this yesterday. You tweeted this. I was
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  Speaker 2: yesterday or Saturday. I tried to stay off social media
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  Speaker 2: when I was on a little bit of vacation, but
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  Speaker 2: I saw this you said, and this is about the Mariners.
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  Speaker 2: You said, you've never seen a fan base turn against
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  Speaker 2: a coach or manager like they haven't, Dan Wilson Corbin.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I would broaden that out. I would say
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  Speaker 2: the team like what I feel every day, like people
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  Speaker 2: are mad at the baseball team. I was just on
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  Speaker 2: a trip with three other couples, and the anger towards
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  Speaker 2: the baseball team, even when they win, there's anger towards
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  Speaker 2: the baseball team. They take two or three from the Giants,
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  Speaker 2: and there's anger towards the baseball team. They you know,
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  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson is to blame for all things if it's
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  Speaker 2: not to Poto wor Hollander's fault, and Hollander kind of
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  Speaker 2: gets a free pass because he's well, I mean, he's
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  Speaker 2: really not the GM, it's the other guy. And so, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't quite understand it. This team has everything still
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  Speaker 2: in front of them. They could win his World Series.
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  Speaker 2: They could do this. We'll start with Wilson or if
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  Speaker 2: you want broadened out, because you said, Hey, in twenty
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  Speaker 2: plus years of working in the media, you've never seen this.
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  Speaker 2: How unique is this?
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  Speaker 6: It's incredibly unique because you have to consider, like I mean,
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  Speaker 6: they literally were a couple outs away from getting to
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  Speaker 6: the World Series last year, and so I guess that's
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  Speaker 6: part of the reason that things are where they're now,
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  Speaker 6: is like, well, they win to the All Star Break
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  Speaker 6: under five hundred eight, and you have your env P
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  Speaker 6: candidate from a year ago that suddenly just has forgotten
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  Speaker 6: how to hit, and there's just all kinds of different
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  Speaker 6: ingredients and there I feel like, you know that this
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  Speaker 6: really has been that perfect stew just to tick off
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  Speaker 6: fans when you consider that the expectations were just so high,
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  Speaker 6: and then you take a bite to the soup and
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  Speaker 6: you're just like, this is just not what I was expecting,
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  Speaker 6: anything close than I was expecting.
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  Speaker 5: And yet, like you said, because the American.
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  Speaker 6: League is so bad this year, like all would take
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  Speaker 6: is is you know, if cal Roley could just figure
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  Speaker 6: out like halfway to what he was last year and
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  Speaker 6: they could get a couple other guys going, suddenly, this
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  Speaker 6: is a team that still could be very dangerous come
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  Speaker 6: the playoffs. So I think that might be feeding into
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  Speaker 6: that anger a little bit, because Fish just like.
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  Speaker 5: God, we should be like we should be in prime position.
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  Speaker 2: Here and we just can't get out of our own way.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: So we'll see if they get it turned around.
• 15:59
  Speaker 6: But like, like I just I just cannot believe the
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: vibes coming out of this city when it comes to
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: the baseball team.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: It's wild. I the thing I don't get is that
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: everyone's getting blamed for the team struggling except for the
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: guy that probably they need the most to play better,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: and that's Cal Like it's it's he's he's tough on man,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: it's and I I don't want they need him to
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: be good, like they need him to be, not just
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: they don't need to be you know, great, although honestly,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: if he wasn't great last year, they wouldn't have made
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: the playoffs, right, So, but they need him to be
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: really good. He's been awful and everything is about well,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you know it's this no, no, man, You've got to
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: be better, like you have to be better. I cal
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Rawley getting a pass is strange to me.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: Well, he's certainly not getting a pass on our end,
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: on everyone's city, I can tell you that much. We
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: I mean, look, when he had the injury, like you look, okay,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: maybe that's what's called the prim like it's just when
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: your ops is hovering around five hundred this lay into
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: the season, that is inexcusable. So yeah, that has been
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: the biggest factor behind them underachieving. They've had other issues,
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: but having a guy that hit sixty homers last year,
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, he didn't expect him to do that again,
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: But you didn't expect him to come out and just
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: suddenly just completely forget how to hit.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: And that's what's happened. Yeah, I mean, if he might
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: not get to twenty, which is I mean, that's crazy
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: to think that.
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: All right, you know, it's odd about this and as
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: it kind of reminds me, I mean, hope, I'm hoping
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: that he figures it out. But like this has been
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: such a drop off. It's almost the hit or equivalent
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: to what happened to rick A Keel when he was
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: a pitcher with the Saint Louis Cardinals and he suddenly
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: could not throw strikes. Like this is very similar in
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: a sense, Like this is not just a slight drop off.
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: It's like I went from an MVP candidate to I'm
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: batting around one sixty and I'm striking out him so
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: every time.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And it's hard. His hard contact rate is down almost
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: twenty percent.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: Like it's it's an unheard of in terms of regression.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Well, Molly wat by the way, one o'clock today, Crawford
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: will join us for that, so stand by for a
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: more more marriage. All right, let's get to the Seahawks.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It's Corbyn Smith joining us here, Emerald City Spectrum. I
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: mentioned this. We're gonna do this all throughout the week,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: just kind of leading up to training camp. I think
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the big thing to start is the ownership and just
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: kind of go there. I was asked this a lot
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: when we were we were away for a few days
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: by by fans and friends, and so Forarth, well, what
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: do you think, what do you think about the ownership?
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: What do you think is gonna happen? And honestly, that's
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: it's the worst possible answer, but I'm gonna ask you
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the same thing. My answer, honestly, Corbyn, is I just
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: don't know, Like it's it's I don't I don't really know.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: So I'll start with you in this regard. You heard
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: about the sale, we knew it was impending. What was
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the very first thing you thought of when you heard
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: about the sale?
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: You know it's gonna surprise some fans because I know
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: that they see the forty nine ers ties and a
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: lot of fans just to cringe. But for me, from
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: just the perspective of looking at good versus bad ownership,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: I just kind of took a sigh of relief because
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: I do think that there is there's a lot of
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: reason for optimism in terms of this family being able
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: to step in and not try to reinvent the wheel,
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: and not step on toes and just let the football
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: people do their jobs. And that to me was the
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: most important part of this. Now we'll see if that
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: ends up being the case. Again, none of us know
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: they're going to own a team, because you know, they
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: were minority owners for them forty nine ers at three
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: point one percent for.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Like a year.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: It's not like they've been on that ownership group for
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: a long time. But I just think you look at
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: the track record for Venode as far as his business go,
• 19:58
  Speaker 6: and his son Neil, the business that he runs, and
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: his background. I just I just don't see this being
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: a situation where fans should be concerned that these guys
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: are gonna come in and.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Hey, we're gonna we're gonna rule with an iron fist.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Like, I just don't see that happening. Well, I think
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: let me go back to the forty nine element, because
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that was the question I was asked a couple of
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: different times by different people, and I'm with you, Like
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I first of all, it was such a short tenured
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: ownership and such a small stake three point one percent,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: like in in the forty nine ers. I actually kind
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: of like that in a sense. And I know it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, and we obviously kind of get,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you know, raise our backs up a little bit and look,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: oh it's the forty nine ers, I'm sure it will
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: be the same way if we heard it was the Rams.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: You know, if they were involved with the Cronkys, and
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I'd say, god, if they're involved with the Cronkys. Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, you get all kinds of you can ask
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: all kinds of questions, but to me, the fact is,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you know, forty nine ers is a good organization, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: you know they've they've got that stadium, they've got everything
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: going on down the Bay Area. It's not like, you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: if you would have come in and said, I don't know,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: who's the worst organization in the NFL right now? It
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: used to be Tennessee Carolina, I don't know. But honestly,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I was like Cleaveland, and Cleveland takes the case Cleveland
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: is number one. Yeah. Well it was like, okay, yeah,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: maybe there's a concern, But to me, three point one percent,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: it's not like they were calling the shots, right. They
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: were involved a little bit, but not much like a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: couple of leadership meetings a year. I think the forty
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: nine element part of it is either it's a non
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: factor or it's a net positive.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree with you and it's you know,
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: when the names first came out, when first had their
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: reports of interest, I was like a lot of the
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: fans like, ooh, NFC West ties, like this could create
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: a problem. But look, there is nobody that is purchasing
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: a team for nine point six billion so that they
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: can try to run them into the ground.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Like there isn't some conspiracy here or anything.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: And the more that I've gotten to know about this family,
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: like they just loved sports in general, huge Mindami heat fan.
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: I mean they get they love sports and the opportunity
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: to be able to purchase this franchise and continue winning,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Like they want that opportunity to do what Jody Allen
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: just did and get to hoist the Lombardi Trophy.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: You know, they want that opportunity.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: So I don't think.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I just think there's a lot of.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Parallels between this family and the Allen family, Like they
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: both have tech backgrounds, both of them are heavy in philanthropy,
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: and I generally look at the way business has been
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: operated by the Costa family and very similar to to
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: the Allens a sense like hey, we're gonna let people
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: do their jobs, and that seems to be you know again,
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: they're not complete carbon copies, but I think there's a
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: lot of parallels there, and I.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Also think, you know the wife.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: You know, there's a power dynamic there that the Seahawks
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: reportedly were very excited about. That led to the Coast
• 22:54
  Speaker 6: Laws getting that sale leg Again, it's another dynamic that
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: fits with the Allen family.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: Go to Allen and her standing.
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: So I just think there's a lot of parallels here
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: and it makes sense why that was the ownership group
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: that the Allen estate decided this is who we want.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: To work with.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: They're very They're very different in the sense of the leagues,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the revenue leagues, the revenue streams, the leagues have building issues,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: all those things. But I think part of it to me,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: and I understand that this, I can understand this part
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: of it. I think part of it to me is
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: the Tom Dundon situation down in Portland right now, which
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: is going has gone from a little bit worrisome to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: absolute code red right now. I mean, that's all it is.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Jason quick story today in the Athletic. It's just it's
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: it is a code red. So I understand that I
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: understand the ken bearing element for those of us are
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: old enough to remember Ken Bearing you know, Bay Area
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: guy as well, but it was different, like sketchy real
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: estate guy. He's he's more Tom Dundon than these guys, right,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: So that but I understand that. I think that's part
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: of the issue. The question is, and we won't know
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: probably for honestly, Corbin, probably for a year, right, we
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: won't know, you know, if there are major changes come
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to the organization, and you would think for the most part,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: those changes would only be on the business side. And
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: I hope that doesn't happen because those guys have done
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: a great job. Their front office is sensational in terms
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of corporate partnerships and all those things. But that's not
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: what fans care about. They care about the football. You'd
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: be a fool to do anything on the football side.
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: I just don't expect, you know, maybe they'll maybe they'll
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: surprise me and they'll step in, but I just really
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: I think also the fact that Mike McDonald and John
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Schneider were involved to an extent in this process, I
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: just find it hard to believe that the Coslaf family
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: is gonna come in and hey, we're gonna we're gonna
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: try to hog tie you guys and make it really
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: difficult for you guys to do what you've.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Been so good at.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: I just don't see that happening at all.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: In fact, I think that now having this sale agreement
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: in place, I expect that it could potentially expedite things for,
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: you know, contracts for.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Like Devin Witherspoon and Leonard Williams, because.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: Now you know who's gonna be I mean, these guys.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Are going to be a p There's no question about that.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: This is not this is not up for debate, like
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: when they meet in August, late August, this ownership say.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: It's going to be approved.
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: So this is a big step towards being able to
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: get some of that business done now without that hanging
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: over the franchise's heads.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think too, Corpen Smith joining US Animals Spectrum.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: The other part, too, Corbyn that jumps out at me
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: is the following, and that is you know, spending money
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: on the actual you know, on field product. Well it's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the NFL. Everyone spends up to the cap. Anyway, This
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: isn't This isn't the NHL or the NBA where you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: or probably more specifically Major League Baseball, where you can
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: be frugal like, that's not the case. This league spends
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: to the CAP's that's how every team operates, and it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: a hard cap and they'll do that. You know, because
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the Devin Witherspoon thing is hanging out there. Are they
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: going to sign Devin Witherspoon? Are they going to get
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: that done? The answer is probably yes, and it's probably
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: sooner than later. I don't think that this would affect
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: that at all. In fact, if it was an the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: pending sale would have affected the fact that they got
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: JSN locked up right, So I wouldn't be concerned about
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: that either.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: No, and the other thing that fans have to understand,
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: And I'm not going to sit here and pretend that
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: I know all the dynamics about how like inside with
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: like cash flow and all that stuff goes. But you know,
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Venode Coast Law is worth. His net worth is almost
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: fourteen billion dollars, Like this family has money. Like the
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: ability to be able to get cash upfront with contracts
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: now I think is going to be better than it
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: has been. And so that is something to consider in this.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Element as well. The Devin Witherspoon thing, I'll bring that
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: in and we'll wrap it up as we head into
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: the rest of the week. But let's just talk about
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon. Do you expect something to get done during camp?
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: I think this deal gets done at the latest in
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: the first week that they're there. I just they've been
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: already having discussions dating back to March. It wasn't where
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Witherspoon and his agent wanted it out. But really the
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: domino here that we have to watch is what happens
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: with Christian Gonzalez, the corner for the Patriots, because both
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: he and Witherspoon are represented by the same agency, and
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: so that that's really been the one domino here that
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: wasn't involved with JSN. You didn't have to worry about,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Oh there's another top flight receiver that he's a contract Oh,
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: by the way, he has the same agent, So that
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: wrinkle has kind of thrown a wrench into things. But
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: I actually expect both those contracts are going to get
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: done pretty quickly both those teams.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Who gets paid more in the end? I think Spoon
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: gets more money. Really, I think Seattle pays Spoon more. Yep,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I do. Why is that?
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: I just I think Seattle, first of I think the
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: Patriots are going to get their contract done with Gonzales first, Okay,
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: but I also think Seattle Devin Witherspoon is just a
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: more versatile player. Gonzalez is a great player, but Devin
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Witherspoon's ability to play in the slot and come up
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: and smack people in the run game, and I just
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: think he is a more versatile all around player and
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: that's going to drum up the value.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was kind of teening you up for that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: because I think that's the same I mean in terms
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: of just a guy that can cover and everything else.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Gonzales is elite, like he's as good as there is.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: But what Devin with the value with Witherspoon to me
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: has been what you just said. He can do a
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: lot of different things, playing a lot of different places.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: And I know Vrabel's a defensive guy too, but in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a Mike McDonald defense, first team and roster and the
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: priorities he puts on that and the fact that McDonald's
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: just mad scientist and he probably looks, I mean, Witherspoon
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: even worry guys like that. That's that's what he needs, right,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: He needs a guy that is just as versatile as
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: it can come it's probably in the sense why they
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: you know, they made this decision to move on from
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: from Rik Wallen, Like we knew what Rik Wollan was.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: There wasn't anything else there. And if he's really good,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: he's really good. But you're playing in one spot in
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: one place, and that's it. You can go cheaper there.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Witherspoon brings a lot more value.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: And I also think you have to consider the football
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: IQ element here too. I mean, we're talking about a
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: guy that Illinois practices the offense thought he was cheating
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: and he wasn't, but he's he just always knew what
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: they were running. You know that Mike McDonald, that was
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: one of the first things he mentioned when he took
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: this job was how much Devin Witherspoon's football smarts was,
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Jumped off the field.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: To him.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: That was a big selling point to him coming to Seattle.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's just another.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Thing that adds more value to him in this defensive scheme. Yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: I would agree. Here's what we're gonna do tomorrow. We're
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: gonna get into a little bit more. We're gonna get
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: something that that you just wrote about the offensive line
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: and a couple of guys Sundell and Bradford. But I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: want to get into more just bigger picture offensive line.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I'll tease it with this. There's there's there's always a
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: question at right guard. People are gonna always bring that up.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I think that Anthony Bradford is valued more by the organization,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: certainly valued more by his his position coach, than he
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: is by Seahawks fans as a whole. Sundell, undrafted free agent,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: took over that center position last year and did well.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: It feels like for me that this is a year
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: maybe we have fewer questions on the offensive line than
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: we've had in the past, Like and that's weird to
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: say that here in Seattle that I'm thinking back to
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: like two thousand and thirteen and fourteen, the last time
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: we had this few questions in terms of the offensive line.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But Corbyn, I want to talk offensive line to more.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: I'll let you tease ahead a little bit. People go
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: read the story on Sundell and Bradford the post of
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Emerald City Spectrum dot com. I think the offensive line
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: is a fascinating topic this year.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think this is weird to say this because
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know that the Seahawks have been you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: had this situation since Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson of
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: those guys, we're playing in the O line where you're
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: dealing with the waight of expectation, like Seahawks fans have
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: not had any expectations for their offensive lines for a
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: long time. You're going to this year with five starters
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: coming back off a Super Bowl team, all twenty seven
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: and under the expectations understandably or through the roof.
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: Now do those expectations end.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Up bogging you down? Or do you rise to them?
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: That is going to be the fascinating thing with this group.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We will we will discuss more in depth tomorrow leading
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: into the started training camp coming up this weekend for
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: the defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. Until then, let's
• 31:17
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• 31:22
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• 31:25
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  Speaker 2: Trav I just I just looked at my email. I
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  Speaker 2: had my automatic replies are still on. I don't know
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: what I put for timing. I just turned them off.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: For emails. I've learned a couple of things. One, it
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they're on there, because you still have
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: people text emailing you though it says you're not around,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: like last week that like, oh yeah, I say you
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: an email yesterday? Did you get this?
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: No?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Did you not get the bounce back? But then I
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: saw the thing. I don't know what I scheduled it for.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I turned it off off but with great hesitation. Part
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: of me likes it, but I I just had to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: turn it off. I'm like, oh, I guess I forgot.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I'm back now.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: So it's pretty freeing to have that on and just
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: it is heathered it is.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: But then, like I said, I still had people in
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: this particular building that email on me. I got a text, Hey,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I say you an email on follow up with a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: text like I'm on a golf course. I'm off leave
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: me alone, right? What are you doing? Anyway? That's the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: first world problems.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: By the way, can I wish Cole to Emerson a
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: happy birthday? Is it his birthday's birthday?
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Ooh?
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Things go on a bender tonight?
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I have yeah out out tomorrow, illness God, If he's
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: out tomorrow, then you know, it was a good night.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, Oh he's got to be hating it
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to a Monday six forty game. All that stuff. He
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: can't do, He can't even celebrate. I mean, I'm sure
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: a guy like that stand out. He's not like, well,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: I won't include you me specifically. That goes out and
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: that's like, hey, turn twenty one, go after man, get out.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: But yeah, if let's keep an eye on cold Emmer
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: sending the lineup tomorrow about twelve thirty one o'clock whenever
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: it comes out tomorrow, we'll see a couple things I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: want to get to before we wrap at the first hour,
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: just four nine, four to five one to come to
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: dodge text line. I do want to do this with
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: you guys. Two things. One, I'll throw the topic that
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Corby and I were talking about, and we're gonna get
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: into this with Chris in a second with mulliwat Monday
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: minus one minus one being Nathan. He's out this week,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: so it's just Chris and myself.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: But the.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Bad feelings, the bad vibes like good vibes only, which
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: is odd because good vibes only is here tonight right right,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Gino's here, He's back maybe just leave him here. I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: don't know, but Gino's here tonight. The good vibes only
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: have disappeared. And I just it's such a strange thing
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: because normally I feel like I'm the guy that's uber negative.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I'm the guy with this baseball team that will jump
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: on the air and just crush him after going you
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: know if they have a bad month or a bit
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: week or something like that. Now it's like, man, the
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: fan base is just and Dan is a focal point.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Dan Wilson is the focal point. We talked about it
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: last week on Make Monday, Chuck. Chuck Powell said last
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: week they Mariners need to make it a managerial move.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: You know, Nathan and Chris they don't. There are guys
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: that do podcasts and do shows and fringe media we'll
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: call them, that have no problem like fired In, fired In.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Those two guys, despite all the reputation of the mall
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: wat Monday guys, they don't do that. But they've done
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: it a couple they've they've followed up on what they
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: said a few weeks ago with it again on Monday,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: especially after Chuck said it. Dan takes a lot of
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the wrath I mentioned this with the boys last week.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I'll talk about with Chris again. At some point it's
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: on the players, right Like, at some point it's on
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the players, and at some point it's also on the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: roster makeup. Like I don't get the Cal Rawley thing,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: his diminished results this season. I don't know what's going
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: on there. I know we have the oblique, but it
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: was before that. Unless he's been hurt since the end
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: of last season. I know Shean talks about it. We'll
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: have Joe on tomorrow. Oh well, you know part of
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: it is he just was overused last year. Blah blah blah,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: all these things. Guys, at some point, you've got to
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: play better, as Cal Rowley, like, this team is depending
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: on you. They need you to be really good, and
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: you've been really bad, like one of the worst, one
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: of the worst in the league, right Like, you can't
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: get much worse than he is right now. So to me,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering where you place the blame or where is
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: your anger directed at. My anger won't come until we
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: get till the end of the season, and whether that
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: end of the season is Game one sixty two or
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the end of the playoffs. I've kind of told myself
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: this is the year I'm going to try to be
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a little more patient. We'll see what happens. We'll see
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: what the results are, because we can be pissed off
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and angry and call for people's heads and everything else.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Right now, I get that, and maybe there should be
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a managerial change. Nathan and Chris have made good points
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: about that, as has Chuck. But my anger will come later.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: But where is your anger directed? Is it the manager?
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Is it Jerry? Or is it hey man? They just
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: won two of three from the Giants. We're okay, everything's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: good here, Kumbai Ah way we go your thoughts four
• 38:17
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• 38:20
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• 38:22
  Speaker 2: come back. Chris Crawford joins us for a different version
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: of malaw wat money just be him and I, which
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: will be fun. We'll I'll get into a whole bunch
• 38:29
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  Speaker 2: By TBI Frostbury Corps. I choose chill Ems beat the
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  Speaker 2: Raley and Cole Young. Logan Gilbert struck out ten and
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  Speaker 2: six innings. EMS took two of three from the Giants
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: in the series. Next up three game series the Red
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  Speaker 2: starting tonight. Good vibes only Gino's in town. Ryan Fox
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  Speaker 2: Berdie the eighteenth hold to one one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: the year. Unexpected finish there. None of the big names
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  Speaker 2: Fox finished ten under on the weekend. First major championship
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  Speaker 2: in his career. He's thirty nine years old. Kind of
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  Speaker 2: he d Argentina and what nothing the extra time Yesterday
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  Speaker 2: Cup for Ron Tory scored the game winning goal one
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: hundred and six minute. Argentina failed to register a shot
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and goal in regular time. Just an absolutely pathetic performance
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: by Anderson Hurst Argentina squad. Just an absolute joke, embarrassing
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: all the way around. Let's get to it on all
• 39:38
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  Speaker 2: Why is minus one today?
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: And you guys can determine at four nine, four or
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: five one if that's an upgrade or not. I'll just
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: leave it at that. Our friend Chris Crawford is here,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: but Nathan Bishop is U is unavailable today. So but
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: that's fine. Chris and I are gonna have some fun
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: over the next forty minutes or so. Although I look
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: on my zoom and it says Larry good enough, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I had to I had to look that one up.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I had to look that one up. I had to
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: look that one up. Yeah, I had to look Yeah.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I played for who the Flyers Canucks, right, yeah?
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Ended his career as a big and ten. I
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: believe whaler So they Rangers.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Or they they've always been they've been the Rangers for
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: a while, but I could it could have been Whalers.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just Larry good Enough. It caught
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: my attention because I grew up we very good family friends,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: the good enoughs Joy and Bill. Good night, Yeah, Bill
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  Speaker 2: and Joy good enough.
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  Speaker 3: I shared.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Joy passed away unfortunately a couple of years ago, but
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: I shared a birthday with her and uh and there
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Sarah and Tom their their kids. We grew up with
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: him in Magnolia, So I was like, good enough, Like
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: is he looking into like some sort of Facebook thing?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: And he found the good Enough family. Good job. That's
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: a good one on you, buddy, that's a good one.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I'll give you that one. I like it. I like it.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: I like, yeah, I stock you, but I don't stalk
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: you to that level.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Hey, first and foremost, yeah you. Also, there's also a
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Pip involved here, p I p p Wally the first name.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Good job. I thank Chris filling in for a couple
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: of days with me last week after soccer was over,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and uh, every time you fill in, I get nothing
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: but good, good good compliments on the job you do.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I just would ask you not to do that good
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: at job next time so.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: I can I can do my best. Andrews was getting
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: pretty mad at me because my phone kept going off.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: My nieces decided to text me pictures of their vacation,
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: literally while I was reading from my phone, and I
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: couldn't figure out beautiful. How does silence it?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: So I think, oh, you were that guy, you were.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Thatness it's starting. I think that chair might have some
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: magic that turns you into that guy. Like I think
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: there might be something to do that chair that turns
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: you into that cap Well, listen.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: If someone's going to be technology challenged by technology, it
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: would be me. So so that's probably good that you
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: just sat in this particular chair and we're able to
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: do that along the way. But know Nathan today, he's off,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: he'll be back with us next week. I want to
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: start with something that you know, Corbyn Smith, well, he
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: tweeted this the other day and we talked about Dan
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: last week extensively. You me, Nathan Chuck had had come
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: on that Monday show going into All Star break and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you know, saying they need to make a managerial change.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: We had done that on this show, and I'm going
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: to emphasize this again. We had done that on this
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: show about three weeks prior, two or three weeks prior.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: It's not something that we make a habit of doing.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: And I say we you guys, specifically as the guest
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: slash analyst. You don't make a habit of saying fire guy.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: But but there there. We had talked about making a
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: managerial change. Chuck brought it up Monday, so we brought
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: it up last week and both agreed make a managerial change.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Wrote this on tweeted this on Fridays. Has never seen
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a fan base turn against a coacher manager like they
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: have on Dan Wilson. There's two parts to this. One
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: I think that's true, but two, i'd say the team
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: as a whole, Chris, and you're doing mile Y every night.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: You're getting reaction on YouTube channel and hearing from folks,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Blue Sky and everything at place else. Before I go
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to the team, let me start with the manager I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: don't remember, And let me preface this by saying, they
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: just took two of three over the weekend right Monday
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: or Friday. Was such an abysmal effort, right, so abysmal
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: that that happened, and then then they win the next
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: two now even Saturday. It's a results based business. But really,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: you didn't do anything. So I've had a couple of hits, right,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: But let's start with Dan. What's the How different is
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: this with Dan Wilson compared to say, like, I never
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: felt this with Scott Service, did you?
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: No? I didn't. Towards the end it started to get
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: there and you know, revisionist history and all that stuff,
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: you know, I never felt that way with Scott. I
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: never even felt that way with like Lloyd McClendon or
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: Wedge and Harbor if those guys obviously were managing the
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: team when expectations were very different. But I never felt
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: like this with Lou I'll tell you that much. And
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: I never felt like this with Service as far as
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: I can remember. Like, I always thought Scott did a
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: much better job than people give him credit for. And
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: if I'm just being one hundred percent honest with you,
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: I wish he was still the manager compared to Dan Wilson.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Like I think Scott Servis, even though he had lost
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: that clubhouse, is a better manager than Dan Wilson. I've
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: never seen anything quite like this. I used to have.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: It would be about fifty to fifty in terms of
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: people who would be like, you got to give Dan patience.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: You've got to give them credit for taking them further
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: than they've ever been to Now it's like ninety nine
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: to one. Like every once in a while, somebody chimes
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: in and says, hey, it's not Dan's fault, it's all
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: the injuries. Did a good job last year. But most
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: of it is vitriol. Most of it is real anger
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: at what's happening here. And I gotta be honest with you,
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: if it was a different organization, you could have seen
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: a change after Friday, because Friday was one of the
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: most pathetic things that I've seen as a Seattle Mariner fan.
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: To have that crappy of a road trip and then
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: to come out as flat as they did against a
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: mediocre starting pitcher and then you know, just lay an
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: absolute turd in the middle of that field was something
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: that I couldn't have even predicted. And I am a
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: not on the Dan Wilson bandwagon to say anything, to
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: say the least, but I haven't seen a fan base
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: turn on a manager and kind of a local legend,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: like literally a local legend. He is not a real
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: popular guy around, you know, outside of Seattle, but in
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Seattle he's a Hall of famer. He is literally in
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: the Mariner Hall of Fame. And somewhat for good reason too.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: I think it's a little silly, but we can have
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: that conversation some other day. But I've never seen anyone
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: turn on a local legend like this in a long time.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: It honestly, Ian reminds me a little bit, without the
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: fanfare stuff, of how everybody turned on Russell Wilson.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: A little bit mmmm. Interesting, very different though, like very different,
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: like Dan Wilson, right, yeah, Dan, Dan hasn't gone to
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: John Stanton and Chris Larson and demanding things to you know,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: other we want I want Jerry out, I want Justin out,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I want you know, cal traded. He hasn't done that.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no, you know it is interesting because Dan
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: has yet. Dan hasn't done it on On, like hasn't
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: been as forthcoming. And you know, like Russ just was,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Russ was in a different world. But yeah, Russ went
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: from being your super Bowl winning quarterback beloved in this
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: town and then and and all of a sudden kind
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: of was the blame for everything going wrong with the
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Seahawks for a while, and I'm I'm as guilty as
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: charge as anybody, but I also understood what was going
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, and I thought he deserved it.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: With Dan, it's just it's different. Let me just's I
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: was gonna get normal, you know, our normal. Hey opening statement,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: quick thoughts, I'll just go ahead and do that right now.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Just okay, So just a thought on the weekend. We'll
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: get back to this topic in a second. Include the team,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but listen, you get whacked on Friday, and then you
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: come back and win the next two with Cincinnati coming
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: here and a tough schedule coming up. Just the thoughts
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: on a very and you can, if you want, include
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: the All Star Game. You can throw that in there
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: as well. Your thoughts on the week So the All
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Star Game was terrible.
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: Home Run Derby was good outside of Netflix, and we
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: talked about this while you were being very, very lazy. Yes,
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: they have got to get better at the whole production thing,
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: like their production is terrible. Netflix has to get better
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: at this because they're going to keep investing in these events.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: But the All Star Game was absolutely awful. I watched
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: a replay of it, which was stupid because I talked
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: to Anders about it on the errands that I didn't watch,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: and then I was like, maybe I should check this
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: out and see if it was as bad as everybody said. Yeah,
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: it was that bad and worse. We've probably moved past
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: the need for All Star games, like outside of what
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: we have with like the NHL, where we have the
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: nation's face off, it's probably just time to have the
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: baseball version of that every two years. And otherwise it's
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: just a reward and we can all have some days off,
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: but there's too much money there. As for this weekend,
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: like Friday was pathetic and the first seven innings six
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: and a half innings, excuse me. Of Saturday, we're just
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: as bad, like just as bad. And then thank god
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: for Cole Young, Thank god for Cole Young hitting that
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: three run homer. And I wouldn't say the vibes completely shifted,
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: and it certainly didn't feel like a turning point or
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: anything like that. But think about what we're talking about
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: here with another lost series or Kevin forbid a sweep,
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: and who knows what happens if you lose that game Saturday,
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: if you get shut out Saturday, and if not for
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: a manager who is somehow worse than Dan Wilson, the
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: Mariners probably do get swept. Vitello is an absolute disaster
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: in San Francisco. And then Sunday felt good. Sunday was
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: the first time I felt like they played a relatively
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: complete game outside of the first inning, where this defense
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: once again it just looks awful. Lookan Gilbert looked great.
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: There were good moments for Bryce Miller as well. The
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: bullpen did a nice job. But I don't feel a
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: turning point. I don't feel great about winning two of
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: three against one of the most dysfunctional franchises, but all
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: it certainly beats the alternative and steal one to steal
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: one from Nathan who's always furious. He's never mad with
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: the Mariners win, but he's always a little irked when
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: they play well on Sunday when they haven't played well
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: the rest of the week, because it like changes how
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: people feel about it. It is a little irk some
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: that they were able to finally play a good game yesterday,
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: because you know, we're prisoners of the moment and we
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: can't help but feel the way that we do. But
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: outside of mostly a very solid game on Sunday. This
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: team just doesn't look very good.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, I got I just wrote down like four things.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: This is, this is you should probably host. I should
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: just sit here and listen because I'm very scattered today.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, but you gave me a
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: couple of different things I want to hit on. We'll
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: come back to the Mariners in a second. Let's go
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: back to Netflix for a moment. I know you guys
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: talked about last week, but I'm glad you brought that
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: up last week because and again today. You know, I
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: mentioned to Jackson earlier when he was doing Greg Bell's show.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: MLS missed this massive opportunity during the World Cup. They
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: just did a and you know, frankly, i'll be honest
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: with you, sort of the local team here like like it,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: just like I didn't feel any vibes from the MLS
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: any kind of cross promotion, any kind of I don't know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: God forbid, buy some advertising, you know, on the broadcast
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and promote your product and tell us where you are.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: MLS is awful in that regard. Number two on that
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: list would be Major League Baseball. Like just and here's
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: why I think it's pathetic that you hide behind Apple
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: TV if you'r MLB as and the same and the same.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: To be honest with you, with the MLS, there's there's
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: two and a half leagues, Chris, I don't if you agree.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I think there's two and a half leagues in our
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: of the major leagues that cannot afford to be on
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: non traditional or hiding behind paywall broadcast NHL, and they've
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: done a lot better job of it. They do have
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the odd ESPN plus game what have you, but for
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: the most part TNT and ESPN and free local broadcasts
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: in this market, they've done a better job. Uh, they can't.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: But the end of you don't they can't afford that.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: They'll they'll take Hell, they'll they'd probably almost pay ESPN, right,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's how it works. Betman understands that
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is right there, So I say half
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: NBA they can get away with stuff. But as soon
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: as Lebron's gone and some other things are gonna we'll
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: see a little bit of a hit for them.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, just the fact they're waiting to put the
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: schedule out until he decides where he's going to go.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: As an absolutely joke. But the but major League Baseball,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: I texted you, guys, I think on Tuesday or Monday, like,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: where is the Like I never saw the home runder
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: me I went everywhere, always on Netflix, like production value aside. Sure,
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think you can afford to do that if
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: you're major League Baseball Netflix or having to have forcing
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: fans to play pay for games on Peacock or Apple.
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: I just don't think you can afford to do that.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: I think I agree with you and what I think
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: it is to the.
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: MLS does with with their games, well likes a thousand percent.
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: And you know, the MLS is even admitted that they
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: they screwed that up, like they have come out and said,
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: we've screwed this up, right, we thought we were ready
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: for it. We weren't. Major League Baseball would never admit
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: a mistake ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. No, But it's
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: it's just a little too cute. And you know it
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: comes down to as well, like stuff like like I
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: cover the MLB Draft and I'm paid to be a
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: worker for NBC. Weird way to put that. Putting the
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: only the first ten picks on NBC of the MLB
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: Draft was something that I thought was pathetic too. It's like,
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: are you trying to grow this sport or not? Are
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: you trying to grow these events or not? Because if
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: you just want to take the cash, I can somewhat
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: respect that, but I don't want to hear you say
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: this is about growing the game, because that money's just
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: going into owner's pockets. It's not going to be reinvested
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: so that we grow the sport of the game. So
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: which one is it? Es or get off the pot? Like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: if you are trying to grow the game, the game
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: needs to be on channels that everybody can get. And
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: if you want the home run derby to be a
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: big part of the weekend, which it should, because the
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: derby is so much better of an event than the
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: actual game. It's not even close. It doesn't make sense
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: that you need to pay to watch the good event
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: and then you can watch the crappy event for free.
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: That just doesn't work for me, and it's just too cute.
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: It's trying too hard to just advance us the sport
• 53:53
  Speaker 5: in a way that it's not ready to advance too.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: It's similar to the MLS thing, like we are not
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: ready to have these games on actually with how bad.
• 54:01
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry l Duncan, if you're listening here, you're not
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: good at this and you don't have the right people
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: in place for this to be an established event. And
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: the home run Derby should be an established event that
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: everybody sits around and watches. And instead you've got to
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: log in and make sure that you don't accidentally turn
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: on Brooklyn ninet nine instead of the home run Derby.
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: That just doesn't make a hell of a lot of
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: sense to me.
• 54:24
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• 54:37
  Speaker 2: And I brought up half of my conversation in Corbin's tweet.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: He talked about and you kind of walk down that
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: same road about Dan and people kind of turning against Dan.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Chris, I feel I feel man. Maybe
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: I just hang out with Curmudgeons. That might be it, sure,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: But I feel like there's people that have just kind
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: of turned against the team, and I think that it's
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: a weird vibe. They're they're in the pillow fight. That
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: is the Ale West. We spent all year talking about
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: the Pacific Division in the NHL being a total In fact,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Elliott Freeman called it a pillow fight. And and but
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: that's what the that's what the Ale West is. It's
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: an absolute pillow fight. You know, eighty you know eighty
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: two and eighty is going to get you a playoff
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: spot probably in that division. Like, I mean, you may
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: only need to be a couple of games above five
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: hundred when it's all said and done. But do you
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: feel as if people have turned? I do. I feel
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: like people have just kind of turned. Not just Dan,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: they're just so cynical about this baseball team that if
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: you're taking a step back and you're being honest, there's
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: they get in. They could take a run. We talked
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: about this two years ago. In fact, we've talked about this.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: It's the day when we've done this show, is like, hey,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: just get in major League Baseball playoffs. Just get in.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: That's all that matters. Regular season doesn't matter. Get in
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: with that pitching staff, you could take a run.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: A thousand percent. And I don't know if I would
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: say turned on. I will say this the online response,
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: and I think both of you, both you and I
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: know that online is not real life per se.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: Are you sure?
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: Are you sure? I don't know anymore? To be honest,
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: with a log in the Netflix and see if they
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: can tell me. I will say that the vitriol online
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: has reached a point that I can't remember, Like it's
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: been a long time since I've seen people this disappointed.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: And it's good that they're disappointed, right in it means
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: that they care like you. It's good that they are
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: upset by this. I'll tell you what's going to be
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: interesting is this three game series against the Reds. Because
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: the crowds were really good Friday through Sunday, but there
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: was a built in fan base for the other team.
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: For those crowds, right like I couldn't tell if you
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: were a neutral party. There was a little bit of
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: Toronto Blue Jays to that crowd. There was a lot
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: of cheering for giant stuff going on. I was a
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: little bit surpri by how much that's going on. Cincinnati,
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: as popular as they were when, like when you were
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: actually young, and like they are not the same type
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: of popularity of like the Giants. Let's see what happens
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: over these three games. Let's see what kind of crowds
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: we get and how interested this team is. But to
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: answer your question, yeah, people are absolutely turning on this team.
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: And that's that's as disappointing as anything I can say, right,
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: because how excited were we coming into this year? How
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: excited were we?
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And that's probably why because the the bar, the bar
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: had been higher than it had ever been, right, you had.
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: You had legitimate World Series aspirations for probably the third
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: time in your history, something along those lines. You take
• 57:46
  Speaker 5: a look at the.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Going into a season, coming off the season, and yeah, exactly,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: yeah exactly, and you know your young core locked up,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: and this rotation and all of these good things that
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: you know you were eight ounces away from getting there,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: and you have now played one hundred games exactly of
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: just such mediocre baseball. You can't help but remember, oh, right,
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: the Seattle Mariners. And I don't blame anyone for feeling
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: like that. It's frustrating, and it's it's hard to be
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: upset with anyone who isn't excited about this baseball team.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: And that's super disappointing because the roster that they have,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: what they did last year, everything pointed to this being
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: one of the best seasons since Seattle Mariner history. And
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: like I said last week, since nineteen ninety two.
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: This is the most disappointed I've been in a Seattle
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: Mariner team.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking through here. I believe it's twenty one teams,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: maybe twenty two are all either within two games, like
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: two games below five hundred or at five hundred or
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: a little bit about five. I mean, it's it's just
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: parody this year, right, Like that's and so yeah, you
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: have these expectations for a World Series and I mean,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to me, that's that's still on the table, Like that's
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent on the table. I guess the question
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: is are they mediocre?
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: Right now? They are okay?
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: But are me?
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Are they bigger? Like when you look at the team,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: the totality the team, Chris, are they really a mediocre
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: baseball team or are they just a team that has
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: underachieved this year?
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: It's probably closer to underachieved. But this is not a
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: small sample anymore, right, Like there's a pretty decent sample
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: of being really average and honestly worse than that because
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: you now you take away the eight game win streak,
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: you can't do it, do it. But outside of that
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: eight game winning streak, this has been a pretty bad
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: baseball team. Like you take a look at what they did.
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: They were plus thirty in run differential. They're minus seventeen
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: for the rest of the year, which suggests about a
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: five hundred team. And man, that's just not good enough.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: So sure, there's some underperforming guys. There's some guys who
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: clearly aren't healthy, one of them playing behind the plate.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: And there are some guys who have had some bad luck.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: I think I think Josh Naylor's had some bad luck.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: I think Julio has had some bad luck. I've seen
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: some good at bats from guys that just haven't been rewarded.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: But at some point, this is what it is. And
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: after one hundred games, you can't make a declarative statement,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: but you can point to what this is and what
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: this is right now for twenty twenty six is a
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: bad baseball team.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting that just real quick to wrap
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: up this segment, the like I keep going back to, hey,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: just get in, take a run, and see what you
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: can do. But you are flirting with disaster a little
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: bit in this sense. I thought of this yesterday. We're
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: watching the you know what was just an be honest
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: with not a very good, not a very entertaining game
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: with it with the World Cup final, but watching that,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: like Spain's good, They're going to win unless they don't. Right,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Like they're flirting with disaster the whole time. Like what
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: happens if maybe Messi decides he wants to hit a
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: switch and play for like more than a minute and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: he gets behind the defense, they put take him down PK,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: they score game over, or you know, or they or
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: if they would have got to pks the goalkeeper vargers,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: he was unbelievable. So like you're flirting with and I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: bring that up with the Mariners, like you're kind of flirting
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: with disaster, Like we just assume they're going to get
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: in to the playoffs. I still assume they're getting in.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm working into the assumption they're going to
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: get in and then we'll see what happens and make
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: a make an assessment of the season afterwards. But I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: guess there is that fear you don't get in.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: I mean here's the thing too, Like what good is
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: just getting in? Right? Like, how excited are we really
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: going to be about just getting in? I talked about
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: this with Anders as well. They are not in the
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: position that we can just completely poop poop playoff appearances.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 5: But if you get in as like the second wild
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: card and lose in three games to like Cleveland or
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: something along those lines, this is a disastrous season. It's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: a disastrous season. You can be appreciative that we've had
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: more disastrous seasons, but it's an incredibly disappointing campaign I think.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, there's a chance, there is a chance we
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: we a couple of injuries, Houston getting hot, Texas making
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: some moves and getting hot. You know, the AL East
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: is starting to play better. Boston is as hot as
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 5: any team in baseball right now. It's not a lock
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: that they make the postseason. I would bet on it too,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: and then I would bet on them winning some postseason
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: series as well, because I do believe in the talent
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: of that baseball team. But they're playing with fire. They're
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: playing with fire, and they're getting really close to falling
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: into that pit.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: All right, well say break come back. We'll wrap up Molly.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: What Monday.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: Chris is here with us, no Nate today. You mentioned
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Cal the guy behind the playe if he's heard or
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: not without going down the road of criticizing training staffs
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: and so forth. I just wonder, and I'll ask Chris
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: this next segment, at what point is either take yourself out,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: sit down and get healthy or if you're good enough
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  Speaker 2: to play? As they used to say back in the day,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: and you know Mike and Carl Malone and all those
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: guys in the NBA, I'm one hundred percent if I'm
• 1:03:16
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  Speaker 2: Crawford is here. Nathan Bishop. We suspended him. He's off
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: for a week. We got too many red cards for Nathan.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: He's off. He's like he's like a angry man from Argentina,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: which is our friend Andrews as well. Chris helped me
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: out with cal Rawley. Please, I'm at what point this
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: is gonna sound really bad? At what point is he culpable?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: Like we're gonna blame Ben Wilson, We're gonna blame Julio,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: We're gonna blame name the reliever that's that shouldn't even
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: be on the roster. Right like this, the blame game
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: for a fifty to fifty mark is wide spread. He
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: seems to be exempt. And I'm just looking. I mean
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: the numbers one sixty three batting average to sixty seven
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  Speaker 2: on base to ninety eight slugging yeah uh, and then
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: an ops of five sixty five nine home runs twenty
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: nine RBI in albeit he missed time sixty eight games,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety two played appearances. Though, is it injury?
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Is he just in a massive slump? Is it regression?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: And I want to be very careful when I say this, sure,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: because I'm not insinuating anything, and I want this to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: be perfectly clear. I'm not insinuating anything. But we've seen
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: guys pop in Major League baseball and then step way
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: back for various reasons. What's going on here?
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  Speaker 5: It's really hard to say, and it's it's interesting because
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: you take a look at his Baseball Savont page and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: this is lazy, but it's just easy to do. Like
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: his bat seed's still fine. He's in the seventy eighth percentile.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Last year it was in the eighty ninth percentile, so
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: it's down, but it's not like down a huge amount.
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  Speaker 5: He's barreling the baseball and eleven point one percent that's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: well above average. Now that's way down from twenty twenty
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  Speaker 5: five when it was nineteen point five percent and he
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: was among the very very best in baseball. I mean,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: he's just not squaring anything up, and it shows in
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: the Baseball Savont page. He has squared up only fourteen
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  Speaker 5: point four percent of the baseballs that he's put in play,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: so eighty five point five percent of the time he's
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  Speaker 5: not squaring up the baseball. On top of striking out
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: a lot. I can't tell you how many times I've
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 5: seen cal Roly pop up, just a pop up into
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: weak little Usually it's into left field, which shows that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: the timing is just not there. He's striking out a lot,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: but not at a rate that is like, oh, clearly,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: you know, he's on pace to strike out four hundred times.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: Of course he's hitting one sixty three or whatever it is.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: I just feel like he's not there, like he's just
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  Speaker 5: and here's the thing, it's not just that he's not
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: there compared to twenty twenty five. He's not there compared
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: to twenty twenty four, twenty twenty three, when he was
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  Speaker 5: a really, really good baseball player. In twenty twenty four,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: he was one of the very best players in baseball.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: He hit thirty four home runs, will providing elite defense
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 5: behind the plate. Now, the good news is he still
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: is providing that defense, but they don't as much as
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: they do need that defense, because holy crap, am I
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: never going to forget to mention defense again after what
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 5: happened two weeks ago. But it's important. They need him
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: to hit, They flat out need him to hit because
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: there's nobody else on this roster. They're all very good players.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: I really do believe everybody on this roster is a
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: really good baseball player that you would want on your
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: lineup for the most part anyway. But they don't have
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: that guy. And when cal Rawley is not only not
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: that guy, but he is literally one of the worst
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: hitters in baseball, and in batting run value he is
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: in the first percentile. He is negative fifteen runs, worse
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: than any worse than your average hitter minus fifteen. Think
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: about that, going from being the guy who should have
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: won MVP, legitimately should have won V being an absolute
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: automatic out for the most part. The only thing that
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: he has is the defense, and the walks have been good,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 5: Like it's nice to see the walks. And here I'll
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: be my BDA, my Big Dumper apologist. Here. How many
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: times have we seen screaming foul balls from Big Dumper
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: this year? How many times we saw it Yester Saturday too,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 5: He clawbreed a baseball but it went foul. Yeah, at
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 5: some point, you can't just do that. You can't just say, ah,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: he's gonna go straighten these out. It's gonna all work out.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: It's a large enough sample size right now that cal
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: Rawley is boy at best, a mediocre player in twenty
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  Speaker 5: twenty six, and it's only because of the defense and
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 5: some decent at bats here and there. I don't know,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 5: but you fix because and here's the thing. Here's where
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: cal Rawly I think is the most culpable, playing too
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: damn much in twenty twenty five. I really do think
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: that that played a toll. Catching is so hard, Like
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: Ian imagine a goalie playing seventy games, you know, like
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 5: imagine somebody like or having a offensive lineman just literally
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 5: never miss a snap and also playing on special teams
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: like like imagine something along those lines. That's basically what
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: Big Dumper had playing that many baseball games and taking
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: that few of days off. And I know, I can
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 5: already see people typing in my day we walked to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: school and blah blah blah, and the toughness is just
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: not there. It's different. It is just different. And I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 5: think cal Rawly is most culpable in asking to be
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: in the lineup too much. And Shaman Dan Wilson for
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: saying yes as often as he did.
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  Speaker 2: Last year, well that that just brings us back to
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: what we talked about, like before. Right, in terms of
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: is is he he caught one hundred and twenty games
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: last season, you know, but then he played then he
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: was a d H for thirty eight and then he
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: also he had two other pin hitting appearances. He had
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: three days off. He had three days off last season, right,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: is that my math right there? Yeah too, yeah too. Yeah,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: that's a lot that brings us back to Dan Wilson.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: But then I can't blame Dan Wilson one hundred percent
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: for that, no, Right, and really, in today's sports we
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: talk about help. I'm gonna go back. There's a guy
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: on this show named Christopher Crawford. He said the start
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: of the year, I demand a world Series. We live
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: in the now. We live in the now, and so
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I understand him. We've talked about this before, you and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I and Nathan talk about it with other sports. You
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: have to protect the athlete from him or herself. You
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: have to do that because most anybody worth their salt
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: not named Eric Badard or ninety nine percent of the NBA,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: which Benard would have been a great NBA with load management.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: But unless you're in the NBA or you're Eric Badart,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: most athletes are not going to want to come out.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: But that's what coaches, managers or what have you are for, right,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: So I can't put it on it. But he has
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: to perform, because I think it's safe to say this
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: is the oversimplification note of the day. If he's not better,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: they're not going anywhere.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: No, they can't win the World Series with cal Ralely
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: with a five to sixty ops. They have no shot
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: of doing it. Like even if Julio is like a
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: one thousand ops guy for the second half of the year,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: Even if Josh Naylor starts seeing more balls fall in,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: even if Luke Rayley goes on one of his super
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 5: hot streaks and JP Crawford has like a three to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: eighty on base percentage and whole bunch of stuff, I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: can't see it unless Big Dumper is a legitimate middle
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  Speaker 5: of the order hitter.
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  Speaker 2: Wrap it up with this. Chris Cincinnati is in town.
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  Speaker 2: They've got our friend, good vibes only Gino Suarez. Yes,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: did they miss him?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: I think that the clubhouse might miss him because we
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: talked about this a whole bunch Thursday and Friday. This
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: clubhouse just looks miserable. It looks miserable and that's honestly,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 5: I think Julio being in the lineup's gonna help that
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because yeah, he brings energy.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: When he had that walk off sack fly like just
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: that infectious smile and just like how happy they were
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: for Julio that he was back playing, and you know
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 5: that's going to help. But I do think they miss him.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 5: I do think that they miss that that good vibes
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 5: only because I don't think there is a good vibe
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: only guy. I think this team is really stoic and
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: really probably a little too not having fun out there.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: And I get it. I wouldn't be having fun either
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: if the season was disappointing. I'll just close with this
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  Speaker 5: too with GINO, give that guy the loudest ovation that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 5: you possibly can, like give him as loud of an
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: motivation because literally, outside of Edgar, no one's had a
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: bigger hit in Seattle Mariner history than that home run
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: that he hit in Game five, and he was a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 5: very very very good Seattle Mariner and he deserves all
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: the applause that you can give.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I would agree with you one hundred percent. He's it's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: the only time that there were good vibes was a
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Julio's walkout for b when I guess what. There are
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: some guys that the dug out laughing down seven nothing
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: the other night, which sent people sideways. Sometimes it's better
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: to laugh and cry, you know, like, sometimes it's better
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: laugh and cry.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: I missed the old days when it was Rick Meyer
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 5: eating a hot dog on the sideline that people complained about.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: That was a lot more. Can you remember that Kennedy
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 5: eating the hot dog? And I think the season game?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you just dated yourself as well, which is good.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 5: Why I couldn't figure out my phone is because I'm
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: a very very old man.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: If I was here, I wouldn't have been able to
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: help you. So that's even better. Uh, Cincinnati, and then
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: may head to Texas? What all we that comes ahead? Oh,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: by the time we talk again, the Dodgers will be
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: next up on the agenda as well.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 5: That's fun, fun, the real treat to get to play.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: Which goes which goes back to this these games against
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati and obviously Texas. It's a very big week coming up.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I don't think you can overstate it, like
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 5: not winning a series here in Cincinnati and then honestly
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: for the tiebreaker in because they've played so poorly against
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 5: the Rangers so far. That's probably when you got to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: take three or four. That's probably one that you're gonna win.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 5: A split, I don't think is gonna be good. A
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: split will keep you in the race, obviously, but if
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: you want to win that tiebreaker. And because we don't
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: have one game playoffs anymore, which I miss emphatically, we
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 5: miss because.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Which which is one of the great moments in this
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: franchise is history.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. I got to go home from Nisqually Middle School
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: and watch that game. Thank you very much, Mom and Dad.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: But yeah, it's these are huge. These are huge, and
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: you just you have to start putting together results for
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 5: a wide variety of reasons.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: And it's funny because as you're saying that, I was thinking,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: I bet if there was a Mollywop Monday for the
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Texas Rangers, they'd be saying the exact same thing, like
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: we gotta take we take two, And they're probably thinking of, hey,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: we take two, we take three or four against Seattle.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: We're in the driver seat, like we're like, we're in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: the driver's seat, Like that's what they're talking. And then
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, two and two wouldn't be very good.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: So uh because someone will be like a half game
• 1:15:32
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• 1:15:33
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, buddy. This was a little more
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  Speaker 2: There was more time to talk. That's for damn less
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  Speaker 2: the anger, the acrimony, Where is it directed for you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: right now? Is it as Corbin and and others have said?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: Is it Dan Wilson? Is it the player? I just
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: think at some point the players have to If I'm
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: mad at somebody for a fifty and fifty record for
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: a team we expected to do better this year. I'm
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: still looking player wise too. You know, Naylor has him
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: been what we thought he would be, certainly not living
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: up to his contract, and that contract will probably not
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: age well as it is needed to be good this year.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: And I love my fellow Canadian man, I love Naylor. Yeah,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: I lived up to it too. Many just kind of
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: weird plays in the field as well as not hitting
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: like you'd want him to hit. Cal's been awful and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: whether he's hurt, tired, fatigued, what have you, he just
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: has him been good and he's paid to be really good.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: Not sixty home runs good. Everyone says that there's always
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: a disclaimer. Enough to do sixty right, maybe hit thirty
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: maybe maybe. As Chris went through the Baseball savon page,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: barrels of balls up, not just foul balls, just get
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: on base, just do so thing. And he's getting walks
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: draft like he's getting but not enough. But you know,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just it's just such a very
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: weird and you know, we talked about this to start
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: the showt twelve o'clock today with Gino Swarez coming to town.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Good vibes, only the vibe here is not good. They
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: just won two of three like that to me is
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: just just win games you need to win. We'll see
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: what happens later this week. If you take two or
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: three from Cincinnaa or hell, if you sweep the Reds.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Things are, things are golden at that point, feel a
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: hell of a lot better. Just take take two or three,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: when two straight series coming out of the break, you're
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: you're looking a lot better. Then we'll discuss what happens
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: with the Texas Rangers. We'll do that on Thursday when
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: that series begins. But take take a series against the Reds.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: Keep going, but let's see some better play by the players.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: It's not all Dan Wilson's fault. It's just at some
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: point it's not all his fault. Some guys got to
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: be better. Players have to play better and right now. Again,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: you can go through the list. I mean Cole Young,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: big weekend home runs and back to back games, Emerson
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: struggling young kid. You can live with that. But we
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: can kind of go through the list. Randy can hit,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: can't field. I mean, there's there's blemishes on everybody all
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: through the place. Four nine, four to five to one.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: You can fire off those text as well. Four nine,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: four to five one. All right, we'll take a break,
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  Speaker 2: come back. I want to. We'll kind of put a
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: bow on a couple. Well, first of all, some World
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: Cup stuff I do have when we come back a
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: little bit of breaking news from the Seattle Seahawks, and
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: it's not ideal. I'll just leave it at that. It's
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: not ideal. So we'll get to that little breaking news
• 1:20:34
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• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: the Giant sixty three yesterday home runs. Luke Rayley, Cole Young,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert struck out ten six innings. Managers took two
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: or three from the Giants three game series with good
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: vibes only Gino Suarez and Company dal Or Cincinnati is
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: in town to night. George Kirby, I guess Andrew Abbott,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: that's your pitching matchup six p forty is the first
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: pitch at t Mobile Park. Ryan Floxburdy the eighteenth hole
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: one one hundred and fifty fourth Open Championship yesterday ten
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: under on the weekend take some of the first major
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: championship of his career at thirty nine years old. Then
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: he had to fly home coach with the Claire jug
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: and I think he had two. I think he had
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: the real one and they give him a replica as well.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Did he really fly coach? He flew coach. He made
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: four million on the tournament. I think that's just I mean,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: that's probably why he can get flight. I would think
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: at least business class. But I don't know. Yeah, I
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not sure. Spain feed Argentina won nothing
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: yesterday or as they say, one nil in extra time
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: took him the FIFA World Cup. FIFA now is looking
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: and examining the issues with Argentina postmatch. We'll get to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: that in a couple seconds as well. Michigan Athletic director
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Ward manual Wi step out at the end of the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: calendar year. They announced that today there was an independent
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: investigation in the culture of that athletic department in Michigan,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: which is not good. All right, Like they've got all
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: kinds of issues going on right there. They really found
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: nothing widespread to have issues there. The rest of the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: country would disagree. He's going to step out at the
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: end of the year. It's one of the premier jobs
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: in America. Be seeing interesting to see who ends up
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: taking that job at the University of Mierchigan. And I
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: told you got Seahawks breaking news. We'll get to that
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: in a couple seconds as we move into our number three.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, I want to say this just to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: talk about a little bit. Then we'll get some other
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: stuff Seahawks announced just a short time ago as they
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: open up training camp. We should mention the rookies reported
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. Also reporting for the weekend were the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: players who were recovering from injuries. So among those players
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: recovering from injuries, there were a handful of guys put
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: on the physically unable to perform list. Running back Kenny
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: Macintosh no surprise, cornerback Tyrone Broden. I know what you're
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: gonna say next, who uh, death guy? Just death guy.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: He probably screams practice squad maybe for that as well.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: And Nick e Minori was placed on the pup list. Now,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: before you get two sideways, and it's also rookie defensive
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: tackled Devin Eastern he was placed there as well. He
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: was missing some time during mini camps. Before we get
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: too crazy with em and Ory and get a little
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: bit sideways, what's going on with him? He appeared to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: be healthy throughout mini camps, training camp or OTA's mini camps.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: That stuff seemed to be very good. Seemed to not
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: have a lot of issues going there. Didn't seem to
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: be an issue there. Corbyn just tweeted out he saw
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: him a couple weeks ago at his football camp. Seemed
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: to be fine, no issues apparently, so which is good.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: The pup list is the ultimate insurance policy for an
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: NFL team, and what I mean by that is what
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: happens with the pup list. You can be put on
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: the physically unable to perform list at the start of
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: training camp before anybody steps on the field. Once you
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: step on the field, put a helmet on, participate in practice,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: you're not eligible for the pup list. So what that
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: does is if you are hurt going into camp or
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: you're just you could have the most you could have
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: an ingrown toenail and you don't pass a physical, or
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: something was bugging you and you said, I need to
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: have this checked out. It just buys you time. You
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: can come off it at any time during camp. It's
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: not like injury reserve having to miss games. Now, if
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: you go all the way through camp, then there's a
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: penalty in terms of missing games. But by and large,
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: it's what teams use just to be the ultimate insurance policy.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: We have no idea what's going on with Nick. Emn
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: worry like no one. We're kind of looking around him,
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: like what's going on. What's going on? Doesn't appear We
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: can't really see what's happening. Hopefully it's something very minor.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: You would expect it to be pretty minor. And then
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: the second he's ready to go, he's back off it.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: He's on. And I'm just trying to think. There were
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: guys last year on it to start the season. I
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: couldn't even tell you who it was because I just
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I usually don't are not really too concerned about it.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: But there are guys maybe in the start of the season,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: on the start of training camp, that are on it.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: It's just an insurance policy. It is one that gets
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: your attention. Though, Kenny McIntosh coming off the knee surgery.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Now it's interesting. Nothing about Zach Charbonay now that I
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: think of it a little bit deeper, interesting that he
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: hasn't uh uh.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: Players telling me I shouldn't freak out about this.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't yet, Okay, I wonder why, wonder why,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: wonder why Charbony's I guess they could always put Sharvae
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: on it. They can take out till Sunday or Saturday
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: to put Charbonay on it too. But yeah, nothing to
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: freak I okay, I say that. I think if we're
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: being honest with ourselves, you start ranking, you know, the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: NFL is doing it's as NFL dot Com, NFL Network
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: does their top hundred players, and he freaks out about it,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: gets all upset because guys aren't listed high enough for
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: what have you. But if you just are ranking the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Seahawks one through ninety in terms of level of importance
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: for the season, and one is number one, ninety is
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: the last one on the list, Nicky Man Worry is
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: in that probably top five right like it's it's Witherspoon's there,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: Sam Darnold is there, JSN is there, even Worry is there,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: and probably Ernest Joe. I mean like he They're all
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: those guys are in there. Your tackles are probably close
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: to that. He's in your top five though he's in
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: your discussion for most important Player. So from that standpoint, yeah,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: you'd be like worth paying attention to. But no travel.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything to stress out about right now.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: I would. I would say to the contrary that we
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: just wait and see. The problem is now stuff can
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: leak out next thing, you know. He in Rapaport's reporting,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: or Adam Schefter or Mike Garrafullo or whoever pell Sero,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: they're all reporting this, But more than likely we won't
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: know until Saturday, after the first practice when McDonald speaks,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: and he'll probably give us a Mike McDonald answer of Hey,
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: what's going on? Nick? Even worry, He's just got something
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: I had to get cleaned up. He's fine, but like
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: something It'll just be like a nothing burger answer because
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: they don't have to submit anything, no game week right
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: and so forth. But I don't I would not put
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: this in the category of high stress. Like I said,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: we're doing a ranking. He one through ninety. He's in
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: the top five, maybe top three in terms of level
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: of importance in terms of my you know, we just
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: were driving up through Mount Hood and from Bend yesterday
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: coming back home, and they got the little forest fire
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: stuff extreme you know, bad kind of going all the
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: way down to Green. Green's what you see in the
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: winter time when there's like rain and snow. I would
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: say it's like high end green, not quite yellow yet,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: just high end green is where we're at with Emon worry.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: But you'd certainly rather not see him on that list.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: But usually they just use those things for just kind
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: of a massage the roster and gives them an opportunity
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: to make sure whatever he is like looking at he
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: should be fine. But we didn't see anything, certainly during
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: OTA's and in mini camps when we're out there as well.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Macintosh no surprise and Broden really what have you? It
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: doesn't matter with him, So okay, notes, I want to
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: go back before I just wrap up Little World Cup
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: and we'll check the text four nine four or five
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: one here in about twenty minutes. The conversation Chris and
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: I had and it's just kind of online and how
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: people are perceiving the baseball team right now is a
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: little bit perplexing and odd to me in this sense.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: There's the Dan Wilson blame game. And I get that
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: the manager, the head coach, the hitting coach, the defensive coordinator,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: the offensive coordinators, go through the list. Those are always
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: easy targets. Those are always easy targets for someone to
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: go after. And if things aren't going well for a
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: team and Dan Wilson's in the crosshairs, I think I
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: kind of take it more of when I hear guys
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: like Chuck or I don't want to put words and
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Chuck's mouths, but I believe he believes this. Chuck Nathan Chris,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I know believe this. They didn't think he should have
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: been hired in the first place. But here we are
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: to look at it like the players to me, are
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: a little bit more culpable and to blame. But you know,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're just if we're asking the if
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: we're asking the question like, what's kind of pissing you
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: off more right now? Is it the lack of production
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: from certain players cal or is it the manager? There's
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: this weird acrimony between between fan base and team. They
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: took two or three over the weekend, and you wouldn't
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: have known it if you just do the dumb thing
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: like I did last night when I got home trying
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: to reconnect with what's going on in the world and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: looked online and social media and other places what like,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: you would have thought that they would have been twenty
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: games out of first place.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: There.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: Now, I love the record. Fifty and fifty is a
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: perfect record. It's it's just I know we'd all want
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: it to be fifty four percent because it's more fun
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: to make fun of that, But fifty and fifty three
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: one hundred games is just That's probably the best way
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: to sum up who they've been so far this season.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely positively, one hundred percent mediocre. That's who they've been
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: this year. Doesn't mean that they're going to stay that way,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: and I I'm gonna keep saying this till the end
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: of the season. I'm not trying to be the Mariner
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: Hank by any means, but I do believe that that
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: just I'm gonna go back to three years ago. Just
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: get in. Just get in. Now, getting in as a
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: wild card team would be a massive disappointment, but just
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: get in and then see what this Maybe Cal turns
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: it around. Maybe with all the ailments, and I mean
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: the Brendan Donovan things obviously plagued them all year his injury.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: There is a guy they were counting on to be,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: whether it be a utility guy in the corner, outfield,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: dag at times play at third base. What have you
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: get him back? Get Cal?
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: See what this team can do? Just get in win
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: the division. Well, win the division would be even better.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: But Friday was probably the lowest point of the season.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: Then they win the next two and it was almost forgotten.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: So what is I'll ask this, what's your problem with
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: the Mariners? Why why you're so pissed? They're fine, They're okay.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: It's just been a just all seriousness. It's been disappointing.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: This should not be a five hundred team. The expectations
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: coming out of last season, the expectations of a team
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: that not only is contending for the World Series birth
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: in the American League, but contending for the World Series.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: And they have not given us any indication that that's
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: who they are. So I understand that frustration. I understand
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: the frustration of fans saying they should be better. We
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: got a las to go sixty two games. But there's
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: this weird just vibe towards the baseball team and we'll
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: get your thoughts on that coming up here at two thirty.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: All right, before we do that, just quickly wrap up
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: the World Cup a little bit. There were a lot
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: of things going on in the last couple of weeks,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: whether it be the politics of the balligin situation, and
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: make no mistake, there were politics involved. Well there was
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: the leader of the free world politics in President Trump.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 2: I still think that hurt the US way more than
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: it helped it. They and it fired up Belgium. It
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: got the US sidetracked. Players are fragile mentally, very fragile.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: That showed in that game. But the good of the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: World Cup in our country outweighed the bad in my opinion,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: and the good was this, we are not a soccer
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: first country. We all know that we're not a soccer first.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: We're not a soccer second, we're not soccer. Third, we're
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: not fourth, we're not fifth. Because I would probably put well,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: college football. I mean, we have the big four major
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: professional sports college football ranks ahead of probably three of
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 2: those four. College basketball at least March Madness ranks ahead
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: of a lot. I mean we're down in the sixth
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: range right now. WNBA versus MLS. Pretty good debate which
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: is more popular?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: I would the think probably MLS just based on the tenants.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: But there's but you know you could have that debate,
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: you have that conversation. Yeah, we are def we are.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: We are soccer down down the totem pole in terms
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: of popularity. And yet this country embraced that tournament, not
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: just with outsiders coming in. This country embraced the tournament
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: all the way through. The unfortunate thing is as many
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: great matches as we had, as many great games, events, atmospheres,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: everything else that we had. The last thing was that
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: the last record, the last one was a dud. And
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: for a couple of reasons. A it was a dud
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: because it was in New York. Sorry, just I saw
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: a great note from somebody in Vancouver. You know, they
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't let them open up the roof at BC Place
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: because they're worried about shadows. Shadows are a massive issue yesterday.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: If we're able to have grass indoors and good weather,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: perfect condition, why not play it indoors? That the push
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: to have things done in that stadium, which is just
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: anybody from this area has been there. It's a nothing
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Burger stadium out in the middle of nowhere. Travel is
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: horrific getting there. There was no atmosphere outside the stadium
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: because the whole area is cordoned off. There's no way
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: to get there, there's no way to park. You have to
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: take trains and mass transit in, which is fine. They're
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: used to that there. But you didn't have the same
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: atmosphere as you had, say here in Seattle, or in
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: Vancouver or Mexico City or frankly anywhere not named New York.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: So the atmosphere wasn't what it should have been and
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: could have been in terms of everything around the stadium. Two,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 2: The game itself was awful, which is unfortunate that the
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: final game ended up like the You needed the second
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 2: to last game to be the awful one, the third
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: and fourth place game, and that ended up being a classic,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 2: a six to four shootout of all things in soccer.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: That game was full of excitement, full of it, I mean,
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: for nothing. At halftime for England and France comes back,
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: England gets to win in the I mean, what an
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: incredible match. Goals all ten goals. Okay, that's good. Yesterday
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: was absolutely awful on every level. The game was awful,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 2: the atmosphere was awful, the shadows made it hard to
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: watch it on TV, made it hard on the players.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, what made it really awful
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: is in a time in which the last six weeks
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: we had nothing for the most part, mostly almost universal.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: I'll use the term geno good vibes, fan bases from
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: opposing countries coming into the country. Yes, Iran had some
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: issues with their visa, I get, but really, when you
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: look at the fan bases and how the teams acted
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: and it was it was just a great coming together
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: of sport. So sports should be on the international level,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: and yesterday we had Argentina. Now, well, I don't have
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: a problem with the team playing chippy. You want to
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: you wanna you want to play chippy, and you want
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: to play tough, and you want to go Cleat's high
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: and all that fun stuff that you'll you'll pay the price.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: That's fine, and I think the official let them get
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: away with more than they should have. But that's what
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: you did. That end of the game was I don't
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: know if you saw I tryed like you guys were
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: doing the broadcast. You guys were doing this stuff. End
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: of the game was a joke from the scuffles that
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Argentina started to, turning their backs on the ceremony, then
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: not speaking to the media in the what do they
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: call the group area, whatever the hell they call that,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: They just walking out onto their bus. They just looked.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: I thought, Bryson d Schambeau this weekend was going to
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: have the worst look of any athlete that we're going
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: to have in a long time. And then Argentina showed up.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: Disappointing loss, absolutely one thousand percent losses. There's nothing fun
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: about a loss like that. On the you get that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: close to immortality, You're that close to being a hero
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: in your country forever, never buying a meal again, ever,
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 2: buying a drink again.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're that close. One went away for a
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: country that expected nothing less than the championship. Understand the disappointment,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: but the way you handled it, Argentina was it just
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: put a sour taste in my mouth at least for
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: what was a great event. I'm not going to say
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: it ruined it. It didn't ruin it at all. No, it
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: did not ruin it. At the end of the day,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: we had a great event. There's a lot of other
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: things we'll talk about in the coming days and weeks.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: One of those would be, of course, why can't the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: US be better? The US was a disappointment not getting
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: deeper with an expanded field on home soil. It's nothing
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: short of a disappointment. You can't paint a picture anything different.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: They had moments, but not enough. They had two matches
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 2: that were fine. Three I guess they just were disappointing
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: in terms of how they finished. So now you'll hear
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: soccer's too expensive. All counter with so was based We're
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: good at it. So is basketball, we're the best at it.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: But you'll hear soccer we need better athletes to play.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Best athletes on soccer pitch aren't always the best players,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: not even close. The most skilled are. So then you
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: ask yourself, how do you get more skill? Will player development,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: chicken and egg all those things come into play. That's
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: a US Soccer Federation issue and it's been ongoing since
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: ninety four. Better Whether it's better development, better coaching, better opportunities,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: it's the problem is not East Side Soccer Club or
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: the other ones in this area pack Northwest based at Starfire.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: It's not that places like that are charging too much.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: That's not the problem. That's it's development at the higher
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: level of the millions of kids that playing soccer. You've
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: got good enough players. It's when they get to that
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: next level of fourteen or fifteen or sixteen are they
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: being developed. Soccer being a expensive every sport's expensive, and
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: for everybody that comes up with the it's too expensive
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: to play argument that I would counter with a why
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: is it not an issue? Hockey is the most expensive
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: sport by a lot, and the best athletes are certainly
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: not playing hockey. We just want Olympic gold and before
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: that we finished second the four Nations and we're right there,
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: like expense is not the issue. Best athlete is not
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: the issue. More on that down the road. The grass
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: fields we're gonna do something with later this week because
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: that might be the dumbest thing you're gonna hear from people,
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a lot of players like JJ
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: Watt they're going to speak out on it that have
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: no concept of what they're talking about. The reality is
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: you don't have NFL stadiums that have only that are
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: only going to have ten events a year. That's what
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: it would take. All those perfect pitches we saw for
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: the World Cup. Nobody stepped on those fields except for.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 8: The games, and they have any other events.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 2: They didn't have concerts. A concert Kenny Chesney wasn't playing
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: there on a Saturday, and then you have a game
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: in the following Friday and you have to have the
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: grass covered up. That didn't happen. Hell T Mobile Park's
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: a great example. When they have stuff there, like when
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: they have stuff there in the winter, they do that
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: like they I don't they still do. They do, like
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: the Winter thing, the Winter Festival, they did the obviously
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: the Outdoor Classic was there. Things like that. They have
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: to replace the turf in the outfield. They replace the
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: whole thing, like you can't. Stadiums are not one use
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: only for eight ten games a year for the NFL JJ.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: It sounds good in concept, sounds great. What I'll present
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: to you later this week. Is it really that much
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: more dangerous to play artificial turf? We'll do that later
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: this week as well. All Right, we come back four
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  Speaker 2: Always for to get to the text. This is an
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: interesting story. Just broke Trav.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: Oh boy.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew Marshaan from the athletics, so it's legit. I'm
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: reading the story on the athletic website. ESPN has cut
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: ties with NFL analyst Ryan Clark. He's been with a
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: network for a decade, supposed to be part of their coverage.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: Remember they carry the Super Bowl this year, ESPN does
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: first time in the history they're carrying that. He's making
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: more than two million a year ESPN. I'm reading from
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 2: the story here from the Athletic ESPN executive salur on
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: Clark do the issues with his words, which peaked with
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 2: an on air and off air inst in this past season,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 2: involving colleague Peter Schrager. He played thirteen seasons in the
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: NFL mostly the Steelers transitioned to ESPN, worked his way
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: up the network's depth chart. He's been on Monday Night
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: Countdown since, next to Scott Van Pelt, Jason Kelsey, Marcus Spears.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: He's been on the morning shows as well. I like
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: Ryan Clark. I think he's a lot of people liked him.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: He is abrasive.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: There was.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: The incident with Schrager was kind of maybe the tipping point.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: He's he he did a there was a lot his
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: social media was not great at times in terms of
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: just if you know Ryan Clark, I mean, his analysis
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 2: seemed to be pretty spot on. I think there was
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: just a lot there that they were dealing with. But
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: it's that's a that's a big kick to the curb.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: The problem too now is used to be, well, you
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: know you're not with ESPN, what can you do. I'll
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: just move over to the NFL network. Oh wait, the
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: NFL network is owned by ESPN. He was one of
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: the bigger stars in NFL media, Like he was a
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: top flight big star in the NFL media. Yeah, that's
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: a shock. So unless Fox picks them up or CBS
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: picks them up, and I don't think those they'd probably
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: want to deal with the baggage that would come with that.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: If ESPN's letting you go, ESPN lets a lot of
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 2: stuff go. So the I don't I'm guessing that we're
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: we didn't even see at half of what was going
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes with this dude, like he might
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: have just been one of those very toxic employees that
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: you just it's some what we're done. You're good at
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: what you do. We're just done. We're moving on. So
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: that's that just came out a second ago Andrew marsh
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 2: On from the Athletic reporting that Ryan Clark is out
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: as well. Okay text four nine four or five one.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: That would be ladies and gentlemen that's coming to watch
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  Speaker 2: text line four nine four five one. We just talked
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: about this. I love this. Let's see. I'm a cameraman
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines for every event at Looming Field, all
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: these idiots wanting grass fields. The only reason the grass
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: looked that good is because literally no one could walk
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: on the grass. TV video cameramon couldn't even step foot
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: on the field. Util the actual game. They literally put
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars into each field, and it's proven that
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: more serious injuries happen on grass. Ask RG three Chris Clemens,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: CLFT favor only anymore. I'm actually, like I said, I'm
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 2: working on the actual numbers with someone that's in that business,
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: which I'm gonna get too later in the week. We'll
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: move that. And somebody actually mentioned about the about Pittsburgh.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: There are cold weather climents that have it, like Green Bay,
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: and I've been in Green Bay, and I've been on
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 2: the field in green Bay on the sidelines. At least
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: they know at Lis on the field, but on the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: field in green Bay, they it is. They don't do
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of stuff in Lambell, certainly not in the wintertime.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: There isn't an MLS team playing there. There isn't an
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: NWSL team playing there like we have in Seattle. And
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: Jackson brought this up earlier, like that schedule is now
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: going to go what's starting next year into the fall, right,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: that becomes a very multi use stadium as well. And
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: I've been there with Lambell when it's you wish you
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: would have been playing on field turf. RG three, Chris Clemens,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: that happened in DC, we were there. I was there
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: for that game. I was on the field doing live
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: shots for that game. That wasn't grass, that was sand.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: It was awful, like it was the word. I remember.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: Max Hunger came off and said, this is an absolute joke.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: That was before those guys got hurt. Because I said, hey,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: how's the field? I said, because I said, hey, it
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: looks kind of good. He goes, it's awful. They just paint.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: They spray painted at green.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 8: I could kind of tell from the TV feed it was.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: And then it got bad. Yeah, Alfred Morris kind of
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: got dinged up in that game. I mean it was
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 2: Stephen Stephen Hawshka got hurt in that game. Do you remember,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: right he's kicking on one leg. Later he had a
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: like little chipshot field goal they could barely get off. Yeah,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: it's there's a lot more to it than just saying, hey,
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: look how great these fields were for the World Cup
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: where nobody could step on the field like this gentleman
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: just said from the two five three. Okay, let's see,
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: we're talking about the soccer man of the best US player.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: Say players play? Ever see the best players on the
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 2: sports play in North America? Kids see them play. They
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: don't see our best soccer players. There's a bunch of
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: texts like that. I think we give too much credit
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: to what young kids are seeing when they're going up.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: You know, I do think that, like, hey, I want
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: to be the next Lebron, or I want to be
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: the next JSN or I want to be the next whatever.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I just go back. I'll use the
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: other sports. We're good in hockey, we're good in baseball.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: If the best athletes only played football and basketball, we
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be good in other sports. There's enough people in
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: this country, streight sixty million people in this country. We
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 2: have a big enough talent base. We can find that.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: It's development that's the issue, guys, it's the development. I
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: think there's other thing too. We specialize in sports pretty early.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: Soccer is guilty of this, but so as baseball. Football
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: isn't as much. I'll give football credit there. Football. My
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: experience as of parent football is not as like. They
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: allow kids. They want kids to do other things. They
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: want their linemen to play basketball and russell one or
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 2: the other. You know, they don't mind other sports being
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: taking place. Now if the seven and seven has changed
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: out a little, basketball becomes very specialized, but you can
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: play both. You can do that Okay, let's talk about
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: the Mariners, shall we. That's fun Marcus or Buddy Marcus.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: I think there's better options than Dan. But I don't
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: think anyone gets more wins out of this team by
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: the way they're playing. Yeah, I agree, man, I don't.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: May you know, listen, people that know far more about
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: basketball than me. I maybe there is maybe you could
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: get more out of them. I think that there is
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: a problem here. That's not just Dan Wilson. I think
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: there's guys that have just been not good this year.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 2: And we've talked about it before. The catcher hasn't been good.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Naylor hasn't lived up to his contract. I mean, go
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: through the list of guys. Let's see you agree. Dan
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: was a typical MS feel good higher. He just can't
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: inspire the players as a player's manager needs to tell
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: it like it is. Lou Hey, go talk to the
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: players and ask them about hitting service Felix, Lottie Pitchock
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: ack game Dan another tough one. Services actually quite Felix Atti,
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: pitrickck game Dan another tough one. He didn't say that
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: on was It Friday? He avoided that. I think he
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: got coached up somewhere. He avoided. Hey, another tough one.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: We had a tough one tonight because that's his favorite line,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: his first line in every press conference. He avoided that Friday,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: so I think he's been coached up on that. The
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 2: Ams are just wash rints for pete mediocrity. They caught
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: lightning at the bottle last year, but Kallis turned back
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 2: into a pumpkin with two months of baseball left. Our
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: offense has no identity. Our pitching is jeckol it hot
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: on the road. Tell me in what is there to
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: get excited about? Once again, I can't wait for my
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 2: c X. Git going, go Hawks. They start on Saturday.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: By the way, we'll be out there a week from
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: today for training camp as well. Let's see a lot
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: of people ripping on Argentina so I can't read, but yes,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: I'm with you. Andrews will have to answer for them
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: when he comes back next week. That's his squad because
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: his wife is from there, so we'll make him do
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: it as well. This is an interesting thing two five
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: three regarding the mirrors, they're most They're boring to watch
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: most of the time. It wasn't like that last year. Okay,
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: I'll ask you traf because I'm doing this every day
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: and a little bit more into it. You got kids,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: young kids, all that stuff. Are they a different team
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: in terms of excitement than a year ago? Are they
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: boring compared to a year ago?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: I think so. It feels kind of like that. But
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: when you're winning, it's more exciting. Yeah, that's for sure.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: It does feel a little less exciting.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: Four two five, Ian, you said as to the players, what
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: happened to Philly and Boston if they fired their managers.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: I'm on Wilson's side, but if we don't take at
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: least two of four in Texas, then we have a problem.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: Well they had a problem right now, but yeah, I
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: mean those two teams obviously got better with their manager
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: of fires as well. They're not firing a Marion or
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Hall of Famer before August eighth or August seventh through
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: ninth that weekend. It's not probably just not gonna happen.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the anger that comes from
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: Ricks fans that we should have gone to the World
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: Series last year. So this is a huge year. This
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: was the year hopefully that they're gonna finally make it,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: and the way they've played it, this looks like they're
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: going in that direction. I mean, maybe it will, but
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: it doesn't look like they're heading in that direction right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'll rap it of this two five three. You don't
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 2: win the playoffs with the bottom ten offense and the
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: bottom five manager or maybe bottom one, simple as that.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, well, bitching staff maybe maybe maybebe uh
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: as well double checking. I think that's good. A lot
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 7: of people don't like Ryan Clark for these reasons. I
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 7: won't get onto on the air here in Seattle, but yeah,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 7: I hear you, I hear you.
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  Speaker 2: Along the way, Safty is it? Softy? Is Softy? And
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: who's in today?
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  Speaker 5: I think?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: I think is Softy back? All right? We'll hopefully check
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: with him coming up next? All right, some more on
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: the show. John Lon Joe Shean will join us. I
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: hear the music. I believe he is a Jimmy's on
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  Speaker 2: first back from a three months sabbatical. He's back months,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: six months, six months, yeah, six months, welcome back.
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  Speaker 9: You ever see a national Impoon's vacation? The original, the best,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 9: it's the best. Well, Christmas might be see.
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  Speaker 3: This is a battle. This is a big debate. It's
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 3: a big debate for me.
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  Speaker 9: I contend that Christmas Vacation is the second greatest vacation
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 9: of all time, right behind the original and a distant third.
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  Speaker 9: You can argue Vegas, but I think I would take
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 9: Vegas over European.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree European would be fourth. I just do
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  Speaker 3: know this.
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  Speaker 9: If there is a monster gap between Christmas Vacation, the
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 9: Original Vacation, and the other.
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  Speaker 2: Two, I would go with y'all. Go Original Original and
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: just a like a tick behind, like a difference half
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: a length behind, would be Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: The difference for me. And you're going down a road
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: that I've gone down many times before.
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  Speaker 9: Pal Yeah, okay, this is the kind of stuff I
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 9: thought about when I was off for the last couple
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 9: of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Huh.
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  Speaker 9: Because I was sitting there in Montana, staring at twenty
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 9: two Clydesdale's Yes, drinking a Tito soda on my deck
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 9: of my cabin in Whitefish, Montana. Yes, thought to myself,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 9: what is the best vacation of all time? And here's
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 9: the difference, man, The difference is in Christmas Vacation, or
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 9: excuse me, in the Original Vacation. Now every scene is
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 9: an ee slapper, every single one Christmas Vcation does have
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 9: that little lull where things get a little emotional when
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 9: Clark is stuck in the attic and he's watching old
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 9: film from his childhood. Yeah, he starts to get teary eyed. Yes,
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 9: and the comedy slows down just to tick.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: But that kind of ads that added some you know
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: what they say in the business, That added some depth
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: to the store.
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  Speaker 9: Now, no, I want comedy. I want I want to
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  Speaker 9: send you a picture, by the way, what I'm staring
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 9: at right now.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that one. First, I would appreciate that.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 3: And it's not what people think it is, by the
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 3: way at all.
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  Speaker 2: Listen to me. I need to update the story that
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: we just mentioned. A moment ago, Ryan Clark out at ESPN.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 3: Really why what happened?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: Well they andrewed Marshawn from The Athletic had the story
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: that just he's out and there's a Now there's more
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: layoffs are coming tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. Okay, but how about this,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 2: this is this is this is classic media. So Marshaun says,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: our stories being updated. Clark was on NFL Live today
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: but was told during the program he was going to
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 2: be let go. He did not finish the program. He
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: left ESPN was supposed to inform him and others of
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: the layoffs tomorrow, so somehow somebody caught wind of it.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: He found out, and he says, yeah, peace out, It's great.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: I love to find out like that. Man.
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  Speaker 9: Remember the remember the seat your text by the way, Yeah,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 9: I like that. Remember the scene in that Welcome to Seattle.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 9: Remember the scene in that point break when they got
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 9: the gas station pump and they turned into a flamethrower
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 9: in point break. That's what I would do if I
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 9: were ever informed during the program that my tenure at
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 9: this radio station to come to an end.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I would do.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, most places are smart enough to do its post show,
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: whatever your role is, producer, writer, you know, director, talent
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: post show makes sense. The best part is if he
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: found like someone found out and was obviously pissed and said,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: you know what, screw this. I'm gonna tell Ryan right
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: now because I know and here's the thing with Ryan Clark.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: We all know how Ryan Clark operates, opinion and also
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: we'll fly off the handle, Peter Schrager, what have you.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: They knew there would be a reaction. I think it's
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: a great move.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if there'll be a better story coming
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: out later.
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  Speaker 9: So if you're ESPN, you think, hey man, we're gonna
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 9: fire the guy anyway, lay him off whatever. How don't
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 9: we just get one more ratings bump out of him?
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 5: Oh god?
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 3: Anyway, what the hell's going on? So since I've been gone.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gone last week too for a little bit.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: You were gone last week three days. Not as long
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: as you. I wasn't starting at Clydesdale's or having Tito's.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: But I was gone for a few days. By the way,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: I was making sure that all of the beer and
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: wine and golf in Bend was still intact. There you go,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: so and I could confirm. I could confirm there's still
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: beer there, there's still great wine there. There's hard golf
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: to be and there's a river to float. It's all there.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 3: Play you play Crosswater now?
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: We played Widgie? Actually, okay, I like Widgie Woildi's fun.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: Uh left a few balls there, like doesn't maybe.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 3: Can't go wrong in ben Man, No, for sure.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: Anders still cold. I can confirm that as well.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 9: Okay, Well, you're a big beer guy. You know I've
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 9: never been a big No, you have not. Yeah, kind
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 9: of a hard a type of guy.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good. It's good good wine like wine.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: Wine's good there of course. Yeah.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: I was at a place on Camano Island last week.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: Uh huh? Had you went over the place? You went
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: from Montana to comand.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 9: To Montana, came home for a couple of days, and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: then shot up there for a couple of days to
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 9: see some friends. Wine by the bay. It's in a
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 9: little house in Stanwood, right when you're kind of leaving
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 9: town to go over to Comano. And it's a it's
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 9: a wine bar. They got about five or six tables
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 9: in there, and inside the wine bar, inside the house
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 9: is also a classic candy store like it's like a
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 9: Willy Wonka type setup.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay's really cool.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: So if you're ever up there, check it out.
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: Were you up there with the gas man?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 9: That gas man lives No, I was, No, he lives
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 9: on Uh I think he's on.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, he's he's an island guy. That's why
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: he's asking exactly.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe he invited you up there, you know.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 9: You know, I saw him at the Cancer Tournament last
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 9: Monday at Sahalli.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: The next time I saw him. Okay, okay, that was fun. Yeah,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: all right, Well you're back and you just refreshed.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 3: Not really, are you exhausted extra couple of days.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. I I normally am smart enough to build
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: in the buffer day and I didn't do that. We
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: got home yesterday and I'm just been. I'm just I'm
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: running on fumes like I need a vacation.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 3: Let's just let's what it is.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 2: I might have gone for senior citizen. I might have
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: gone fairly hard last week. I might have got You
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: might have got fairly hard.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: You never know what it could be your last man.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: Where's Where's Where's paddle day? When I need him? He's
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: coming up in a second day. The hydro highlights. I
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: need to go see him.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 9: Sex side flipped over the miss ex side? Hey, Bill
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 9: walk lost a finger. Sixty five is officially senior.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 3: Right, So are you there yet?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: By the way, Uh, I'm sixty eight.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: You are not. You can see I bought that for
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: a second.
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna tell you right. Listen, Hey, Lloyd McClendon, listen, listen.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: If I'm losen, If I'm still here at sixty eight,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: there's a massive issue in this world. I'll tell you
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: that right now.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, massive issue with the radio station.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm saying a grandpa, sixty eight, No thanks,
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: no thanks.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 9: It's like an age quota or something. We got to
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 9: have a senior citizen.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: On the stand.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: Well, if I'm here at sixty eight, mean it means
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: that the wife has left me. I owed money to
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: somebody and I don't know what's going on. So anyway,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: what are you got coming up today?
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 9: Hu Millin's in for Dick Vane. Okay, Dick is out today. Okay,
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 9: he's back tomorrow.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 9: Bill Krueger will join us. We chat obviously about the
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 9: weekend that was for Premier in or baseball. All right,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 9: get caught up on a lot of stuff that happened
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 9: since I was gone.
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: Since you're gone.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 9: Seahawks have new owners, Chuck wants Dan Wilson fired.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 3: The World Cup has come to an end. I think
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: that's about it.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 3: Just kind of have a little fun to day between
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 3: now and seven o'clock. You never know what to pop up.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 9: Just is across the street by the way at T Mobile.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 9: You know who's in town with the Reds, don't you good?
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 9: Vibes only, baby, that's right, good vibes only. You want
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 9: to make a deal form mapping crosses across the park
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 9: and just come back like remember when they traded for
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 9: each euro the Yankees did it.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget that.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah, And he came right across the dugout and went
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 9: over to the Yankees clubhouse and just popped the squad
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 9: in there.
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 3: So that was it.
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 9: You want a Hanio Suarez back. He's hitting two ten
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 9: with twelve bombs and thirty six ribbies.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: Well that's about twice as good as our.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 3: Catcher pretty much. So I talk about it just to
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 3: fall from grace.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: You are you kidding me? It's the Ken Griffy Cup
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: Junior tonight, So our Ken Griffy Junior Cup tonight. Game one.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 9: I was wondering why there were people standing online at
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 9: three o'clock, and now I know.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's why, looking for the cup. All right, but
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: welcome back. See thank you for the mild mannered and
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: marginally objectionable in forness. This is paddle Day saying so
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: long everyone,