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Elle Duncan on UGA vs. Alabama rivalry, Arch Manning's struggles, Russell Wilson benched by Giants | 09.26 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Beaumont Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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  Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
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  Speaker 1: a hater. It is at long last, El Duncan Friday.
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  Speaker 2: El Duncan, what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: What up, Beau? How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: I was telling you before the show that people need
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  Speaker 1: to understand this. Hey, man, people get busy. People got
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  Speaker 1: stuff to do. I understand it, and I never want
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  Speaker 1: to be the person That ever badgers. But every time
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  Speaker 1: Ryan says, hey, you want to try out for the show? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He hits me and says, well, Elle says she's busy
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  Speaker 1: this week. I'm like, cool. We're asking when she's not.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to keep asking until we get us a time.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just us. Shout out to whoever that
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  Speaker 1: man was that saw you in the airport who let
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  Speaker 1: you know that it had been too long since you
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  Speaker 1: had come back over to the crib.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you got some real, real, real fans. I've
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  Speaker 3: told you this numerous times. I will say it again.
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  Speaker 3: I get recognized more for being on your show than
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  Speaker 3: I do for being on the one million shows that
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  Speaker 3: I'm on on ESPN. But this man, yeah, last week
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  Speaker 3: I was traveling to Indianapolis and And he comes running
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  Speaker 3: up to me and he's like, hey, man, I love
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  Speaker 3: you on Bomani's show. Why you ain't got no love
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  Speaker 3: for him, man? Why you ain't been on there in
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  Speaker 3: a while, man? And I was like, I promise you,
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  Speaker 3: Bo just has an uncanny knack for asking for me
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  Speaker 3: on days I'm traveling or whatnot. I was like, but
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  Speaker 3: I'm going on next week. So shout out to that
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  Speaker 3: dude in the Indianapolis airport. We in here.
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  Speaker 1: What did the world do to send you to Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: this time? Wrestling. Oh, you went for the wrestling show?
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  Speaker 3: I did. I went for the wrestling for Wrestlepalooza. And
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  Speaker 3: it was so wild because at first I was kind
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  Speaker 3: of like, okay, I mean, I don't know much about wrestling.
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  Speaker 3: My favorite wrestler, to show you my age and the
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  Speaker 3: last time I really consumed wrestling, was Diamond Dallas Page.
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  Speaker 3: So it's been a while. Exactly. DDP, let's go. But
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  Speaker 3: once I got there and I was doing these interviews
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  Speaker 3: with some of these wrestlers, I sort of realized why
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  Speaker 3: I was the perfect fit for this because- As you know, Beau,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very theatrical and everything that I do has a
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  Speaker 3: tinge of acting in it. And as I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: interview Becky Lynch and I realize, oh, she's going to
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  Speaker 3: do this interview in full character. I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like this is right in my wheelhouse and
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  Speaker 3: I can definitely do this. But it's really interesting to
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  Speaker 3: sort of, you know, when you're interviewing these people to
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  Speaker 3: see who's going to be in full character, who's going
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  Speaker 3: to like talk to you normally. Like I think I
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  Speaker 3: asked her like a legacy question, right? I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you and AJ Lee, you are two of the most
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  Speaker 3: you know, famous and incredible legacy female wrestlers. And right away,
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  Speaker 3: she's like, what do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: Well, she's not, we're not two off.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the best. I'm the man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm the greatest.
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  Speaker 3: She's nothing. She's not good. I was like, oh shit,
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  Speaker 3: we're like doing this.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess we're going to do this then. So
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  Speaker 3: it was, it was definitely interesting. A lot of mullets.
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  Speaker 3: We love that.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a good time. Well, you need to
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  Speaker 1: definitely do a little research. The term is kayfabe, which
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  Speaker 1: is the idea of the wrestler being the wrestler at
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  Speaker 1: all times. It's actually a philosophical issue within that world
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  Speaker 1: and how kayfabe has changed. I think I'm saying it right.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry for you wrestling fans if I'm not showing you
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  Speaker 1: proper respect for fucking wrestling. But that's a thing about
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  Speaker 1: whether or not you should ever see the wrestler as
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  Speaker 1: an actual person or whether the wrestler should always be um,
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  Speaker 1: be in character. It is just interesting to me that
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  Speaker 1: like now the ESPN is in on wrestling. We kind
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  Speaker 1: of got to act like wrestling is not wrestling. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like that is a, it's, it's, it's, it's a new
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  Speaker 2: world with that.
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  Speaker 1: What I have been shocked by in social media did
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  Speaker 1: for me was I truly had no idea how many
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  Speaker 1: of my grown ass friends were really into wrestling. Like
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  Speaker 1: when I started doing the morning Jones is serious. The score,
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  Speaker 1: the company that did it at the time, they were
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  Speaker 1: the company that showed wrestling in Canada. So I got Corey.
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  Speaker 1: They used to do like wrestling shows and wrestling analysis.
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  Speaker 1: And I really thought that they were outliers. And I
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  Speaker 1: did my best, which wasn't very much to shield my
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  Speaker 1: judgment of them as adults.
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  Speaker 2: But I they everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: They everywhere in the Internet has allowed them to be
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  Speaker 1: intellectual about it, which I appreciate because I like reading
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  Speaker 1: about wrestling. But I can't believe that they all still
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  Speaker 1: out here watching wrestling like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they are. And they're breeding new ones. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think, again, I sort of am starting to feel
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  Speaker 3: like the more I'm around the demo that maybe it's
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  Speaker 3: very much my demo because there's this maybe 11-year-old girl
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  Speaker 3: that's at the broadcast that I'm at. And she's so sweet,
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  Speaker 3: you know, big Pixar eyes. And she's got her little
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  Speaker 3: Becky Lynch sign. And she's like, I love Becky Lynch
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  Speaker 3: so much. And I was like, oh, this is gonna
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  Speaker 3: be such a great moment for you to meet your hero.
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  Speaker 1: What I didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Realize is that little girl would turn into a monster
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  Speaker 3: troll when CM Punk came out because... her favorite wrestler,
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  Speaker 3: Becky Lynch and her husband, Seth Rollins have a huge
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  Speaker 3: rivalry with CM Punk. And so this little girl just
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  Speaker 3: transformed into this like mega troll. And she's like, you're nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I hate you. And like, it was, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: this is, you're literally breeding haters. And I kind of
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  Speaker 3: dig it. Like I kind of was like, maybe this
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  Speaker 3: really is like the area that I need to be
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  Speaker 3: because I loved watching that little girl transform into a
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  Speaker 3: Disney character and that all of a sudden just became
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  Speaker 3: a monster. It was great.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. The other thing that's happened too,
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  Speaker 1: and I hadn't thought about this. It used to be
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  Speaker 1: that it was like, I watched wrestling was when I
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  Speaker 1: was little and then I got too grown for it.
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  Speaker 1: But now we have established a world where you don't
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  Speaker 1: feel like you have to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like I, I just, there was a day where I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I believe I have outgrown this. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't no outgrown wrestling no more. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's good or not, but wrestling is wrestling is here.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, it's entertainment. It's fun to figure out if they
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  Speaker 3: actually really hate each other. There are ways to sort
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  Speaker 3: of put yourself into wrestling. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 3: older people are like, oh, once I found out it
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  Speaker 3: was scripted, I was done with it and whatnot. But
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  Speaker 3: I would say that there are There's enough intrigue there,
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  Speaker 3: apart from the decision itself on who's going to win.
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  Speaker 3: There's enough intrigue there that I think you could like
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  Speaker 3: stir up, you know, sort of a normal casual fan
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  Speaker 3: into someone more avid. I mean, for me it was, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to now get you to be somebody
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  Speaker 1: rankside manager.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, let's go. Can I like be a heel? Would
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  Speaker 3: you be a heel or a hero if you were
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  Speaker 3: a wrestler?
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  Speaker 1: I would much rather be a heel. That looks like
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  Speaker 1: a lot more fun.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Right. Or if you could figure out like, the rock
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  Speaker 1: who's so good at being a heel that it became heroic.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Cause that's the best.
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  Speaker 3: Like a lovable, like a lovable asshole. That's probably like
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  Speaker 3: the sweet spot.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: The rock, like, but I think in terms of wrestling heel,
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  Speaker 1: cause I popped back in, in like.
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  Speaker 2: The early arts for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 1: Cause me and my buddy would order pizza and drink
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  Speaker 1: brew and watch wrestling. Cause that's what there was for
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  Speaker 1: us to do in Rancho Cucamonga, California.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And so like Kurt Angle as heel was my favorite
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  Speaker 1: because I could never tell if he like you could
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  Speaker 1: never tell if he understood that people like why people
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  Speaker 1: hated him. He was the ultimate.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you bullying me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm right.
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  Speaker 2: Meme sort of dude. And it cracked me up every
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  Speaker 2: single time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Total lack of self-awareness. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Here for it. Here for it. I know what else
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  Speaker 2: you're here for.
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  Speaker 1: Them Georgia Bulldogs is playing Alabama this week.
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  Speaker 2: So I have always.
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  Speaker 1: Been fascinated by the fact that Georgia and Alabama don't
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  Speaker 1: really play each other that often. No, they have played
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  Speaker 1: a lot in the last few years. But if you
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  Speaker 1: look at it, it's basically been SEC championships and national championships,
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  Speaker 1: which obviously didn't make sense because there were schools in
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  Speaker 1: bordering states. The SEC didn't always have all these schools.
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  Speaker 1: And so I thought that it was just kind of
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  Speaker 1: a random quirk. Do you know why it is that
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  Speaker 1: they did not play for all of those years?
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  Speaker 3: I just assumed it was because they had divisions for
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  Speaker 3: so long and they just weren't in our division.
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Per the Wikipedia.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. And this is true. In 1963, the Saturday Evening
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  Speaker 1: Post magazine reported that Alabama coach Paul Bear Bryant and
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  Speaker 1: Georgia athletic director Wiley Butts had conspired to fix the
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  Speaker 1: 1962 game, which Alabama won 35 to nothing. After the
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  Speaker 1: story broke, Butts resigned as athletic director, though Butts and
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  Speaker 1: Bryant denied the allegations. The two sued the magazine's publisher
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  Speaker 1: for libel and the case reached the Supreme Court. The
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  Speaker 1: Supreme Court ruled in favor of Butts with the publisher
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  Speaker 1: eventually being ordered to pay more than $ 3 million in damages.
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  Speaker 1: Following the scandal, the schools decided to end their annual
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  Speaker 1: series after the 1965 meeting. Can you imagine in this
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  Speaker 1: day and age if somebody reported that Georgia's coach and
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  Speaker 1: Alabama's coach had conspired to fix a game?
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  Speaker 3: That's actually insane. And I've never heard that story before.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 3: And $ 3 million in the 60s, bro, probably bankrupt that paper.
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  Speaker 1: It basically did. It is credited for being the end.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they had some measure of insurance. But yes,
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  Speaker 1: that is basically what ended the magazine.
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  Speaker 3: When you think about it, though, that's actually kind of incredible.
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  Speaker 3: And mostly because the idea that anybody from Georgia and
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  Speaker 3: Alabama would come together and unite in one cause seems
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  Speaker 3: crazy to me. But it makes a ton of sense.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I just assumed that it was because
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  Speaker 3: of the divisional thing and because they just always wanted
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  Speaker 3: those two in the SEC championship, but it makes a
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  Speaker 3: lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that is like, I just saw that this morning
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  Speaker 2: and I was like.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my, I guess my question would be like, what's
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  Speaker 3: the benefit for being the team that goes, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we'll take the L here and score zero points. Like
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  Speaker 3: what are you getting?
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  Speaker 1: They took the fix so far to a 35 to
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  Speaker 1: nothing fix. So, so you had the, you had the
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  Speaker 1: win and the over, huh? Like that you, you, you
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  Speaker 1: had to get all the money.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know what? Now that I'm thinking, maybe that's, we
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  Speaker 3: need to get a journalist on it. Maybe that's exactly
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  Speaker 3: what the Falcons were doing with the Panthers last week.
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't help it, could you?
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  Speaker 5: You saw that opportunity flash before your eyes.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, wait, it's 30-something and nothing?
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  Speaker 3: Sounds familiar.
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  Speaker 5: You're like, we're going to get this in before anything changes.
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  Speaker 5: You are going to make sure that you get that
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  Speaker 5: i saw that the pandas had beat somebody 30 something
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  Speaker 5: i had no idea who it was who they beat
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  Speaker 5: but i knew exactly who it was that they beat.
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  Speaker 2: I was like that was the falcons i guarantee you.
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  Speaker 3: That that was say it say it say the famous
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  Speaker 3: line bo i need to hear it.
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  Speaker 1: Got off that narcotic i got off that narcotic falcons
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  Speaker 1: are not to be trusted that's bad dope right there Oh, my.
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  Speaker 3: God, that's amazing. Sorry, I had to. My bad, Falcons fans,
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  Speaker 3: for that straight.
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  Speaker 1: They are such wet dope. They are such wet dope.
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  Speaker 1: Just useless.
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  Speaker 6: And look, man, they got the black coach. They got
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  Speaker 6: the black quarterback who always wears durag. They got the
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  Speaker 6: black general manager. They got all kinds of things. They
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  Speaker 6: got the kind of things that got me started rooting
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  Speaker 6: for the Detroit Lions.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm still saying, no, give me that over the
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  Speaker 1: hapless Falcons. And those were the hapless Lions.
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  Speaker 4: Listen.
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers have been one of the worst defenses for
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  Speaker 3: three years. The idea you could barely complete a pass
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  Speaker 3: against them. And, and what's worse is that your hero,
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  Speaker 3: the savior is Kirk cousins. Good God. It's every man
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  Speaker 3: for himself. I mean, it's just, it's bad and getting worse.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm, I'm trying to give a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: grace to Michael Penix. He's still technically in his rookie campaign.
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't started 18 games yet, but It's it's bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's like every time you go into a season hopeful
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  Speaker 3: as a Falcons fan. And again, this is a reminder
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  Speaker 3: to your listeners. I am not a Falcons fan. I
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  Speaker 3: am a Broncos fan. We already have our own issues.
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  Speaker 3: I don't need to take the Falcons issues, too. But
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  Speaker 3: it's just I just at some point I start feeling
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  Speaker 3: like bad. Like it was funny at first. And now
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  Speaker 3: it's just getting to a point where it's like this
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  Speaker 3: is pathetic. I mean, this is this is bad, Bo.
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  Speaker 1: Well, hold on. I want to get back to you
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  Speaker 1: and your specification of being a Broncos fan because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that you even realize how pointed it is
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  Speaker 1: that you are specifically a Broncos fan because I saw
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  Speaker 1: the video you put on the internet the other day
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  Speaker 1: where you run through all the teams you root for
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  Speaker 1: and you root for the Braves.
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 1: And, hey, I understand that. Now, for people to understand
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  Speaker 1: that she is a Broncos fan because she has family
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  Speaker 1: from Denver. Yes. Now, Denver didn't always have a baseball team,
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  Speaker 1: so the Braves make sense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Denver does have a basketball team. Yeah. You still root
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  Speaker 1: for the Hawks. You don't root for the Nuggets. No.
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  Speaker 1: You root for Georgia. You don't root for Colorado or
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  Speaker 1: any of that. But you specifically looked at the Falcons
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  Speaker 1: and said, why would I do that?
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: You did not look at the Hawks and say that.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: You looked at the Falcons and were like, why would
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  Speaker 1: I do that when there's this alternative right here waiting
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  Speaker 1: for me?
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  Speaker 3: That have won championships?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: No, legitimately, I can take no credit for it. When
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  Speaker 3: my family moved from Denver to Atlanta in 1980, before
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  Speaker 3: I was born, the Nuggets weren't really a thing. They
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  Speaker 3: didn't have like a Nugget. They were only really Broncos diehards.
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  Speaker 3: So when they moved to Georgia, I inherited the Broncos.
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  Speaker 3: And then they adopted all of the local teams because like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, CU wasn't a thing really. Neither one of
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  Speaker 3: my parents went there. They went to DU. And so
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: like the Rockies weren't really a thing. And so that's,
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  Speaker 3: that is why, like they inherited those teams in the
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  Speaker 3: eighties and then, you know, pass it on to me.
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  Speaker 3: But the Broncos was like the legacy team that they'd
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  Speaker 3: been holding onto for generations. So that's why.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Okay. But you guys, it all paid off though.
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  Speaker 3: Cause good God, we've got as tough as it's been
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  Speaker 3: to be a Broncos fan of late. We have three
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  Speaker 3: championships to rest on and well.
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  Speaker 1: You do. You do. And you got your Georgia Bulldogs who, hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: I think if I had to guess, they're.
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  Speaker 2: Going to beat the Brizzakes off of Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama's got to bring this game.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you say that, Beau? A, you're trying to
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  Speaker 3: jinx my team, and B, what has led you to
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  Speaker 3: believe that Georgia's going to beat the Briggs off of Alabama?
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Number one, Alabama's got to bring this game to Athens.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, for the first time in 10 years, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Going back to your point about them never playing each
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  Speaker 3: other in the regular season.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: So they're going to have to bring the game over
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  Speaker 2: to the crib. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: Alabama is particularly good. I can see it on Caleb
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  Speaker 1: DeBoer's face every game I watch that the stress of
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  Speaker 1: that job is wearing on him. I still think Georgia
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  Speaker 1: has one of those overwhelming talent kind of situations. Your
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  Speaker 1: boy Gunner Stockton, who, I mean... Talk about the name
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  Speaker 1: of a Georgia quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: Right up that alley.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I think they're going to wind up doing that. I'm
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: not trying to jinx you. They got to get some
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: revenge in because they lost last year. I'm always rooting,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: and I hate this for you, Kalen DeBoer, but as
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Foley said when they fired Ron Zook, what will
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: be done eventually must be done immediately, and they're going
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: to run you off that job, and I just kind
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: of want to see how funny it gets before they do.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: So I do think they're going to run Kalen DeBoer
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: out of the job. It's why a lot of people
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: were like, man, why take this job after Nick Saban, right?
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: You don't want to be the rebound. That's not the
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: long-term commitment. The rebound play is just exactly that. You're
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: just trying to get an easy lay. And so I
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: do think that like he could have success anywhere else
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: and be fine, but his record is always going to
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: be held up against Nick Saban. And when we're saying
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: things like they haven't started out this bad since Nick
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: Saban's first year, they haven't started out this bad since.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: If they end up losing this game, then they would
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: be two and two. which is their worst start since
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: they won four games in an entire season. So like
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: all of that is, is true. However, I think a
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: big part of what made, you know, Kalen DeBoer's year
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: last year, despite losing to Vandy, despite their season, I
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: think they lost to Tennessee last year too, was that
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: he beat Georgia. It was like this idea. And that's
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: the frustrating part for me. Kirby Smart is one in
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: six against Alabama, meaning that Clark Lee, the head coach
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: of Vandy has as many wins against Alabama as As
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: Kirby Smart does. And Kirby is... I'm not being biased here.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: I think the best college football coach. He's had the
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: most success in terms of consistency and all those things.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: It's been quite a run over the last 10 years.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: But there is just... There's a ghost. There's a fainting spell.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: There's something that happens every f * * * ing
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: time we play Alabama.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: You know what it is, Bo?
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I'm watching Tennessee choke this game away a couple of
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: weeks ago to Georgia. And I was thinking... We are
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: to Tennessee what Alabama is to us. Despite being better,
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: more talented, Tennessee should have won that game. They played better.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: They looked better. They bullied us in the trenches. They
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: won every facet of the game. And alas, they found
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: And that's the same thing that we do every single year,
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: save for the one time we beat them in the
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Kirby Smart Era in the National Championships. And so for me,
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: it's not about the fact that, yes, we're more talented,
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: or yes, that I trust our quarterback more than I
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: trust Ty Simpson, or the fact that BAM is feeling
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: really good about themselves because they beat up on Wisconsin
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: and GLM. It's just this idea that we still have not...
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: exercise those demons that somehow we find a way to
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: give the game away every single time. And last year, like,
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the SEC team is. If you
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: have four turnovers, Carson Beck, you're going to lose that game.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: And the idea that we were even in a position
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: to win that game and we're winning at the end
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: of the game. And then what happens? The same thing
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: that happened with Tua and Jalen and Tua again, Ryan Williams,
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: 75 yard touchdown. It's just Jalen Milrow has only ever
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: looked good against Georgia or our ass up. And I
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: think that's what it is, is that like those Alabama
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: kids get up for this game in such a way
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: that it's like, this could save our season. Like, yes,
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: we underwhelmed, we underperformed and we didn't ultimately get to
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: the CFP like we want, but at least we beat Georgia.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: And like, that's where we're at with this team. And
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that's scary.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: Part of what I enjoy about this, like, Again, rivalry
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: that's not really a rivalry, but became a rivalry again, right?
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And keep in mind, Georgia has lost to Alabama nine
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: of the last 10 times they played. And that run
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: begins with Honestly, maybe the most demoralizing loss I've ever
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: seen a team take, which was that funeral in 2008,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: where Georgia decided to have a blackout on the field
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and a blackout in stands, and they were losing 31
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: to nothing in the second quarter. And it was a
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: methodical set them on fire game. I see ASL remembers
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: every single bit of it. It was wild. It was
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: really the day that Alabama announced that this saving thing
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: was coming back. But what I find interesting about this
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: is as Georgia has stampeded America, For the last however
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: many years, right? It's really been the better part of
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: since 2017 when they lost the national championship game to Alabama.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I can't think of a circumstance or situation. Florida State
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: is the closest thing I can think to it in
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the late 80s and early 90s where a team was
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: so good. but still had a nemesis that they couldn't
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: quite get past, right? It makes this so fascinating when
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: you think about it. Like when Clemson had their run,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: they would go back and forth with Alabama, right? Like
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: you get one, we get one. Alabama still has Georgia's number.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: It's like Nadal having Federer's number in a way, right?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: But just can't quite get past that one. And that
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: is so compelling to me.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Yes. It's Lamar Jackson versus the Chiefs. We're Lamar Jackson
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: and they're the Chiefs. Like, This man can do absolutely anything,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: but he just can't seem to beat that team. And
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: it's so infuriating. And like, there's been people that are like, oh,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you know, the rivalry's lost its luster since Nick left.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: And to be honest with you, I feel like that
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: would be the case. if we had won last year,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: like if Georgia had won last year and it was like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: all right, so it was a Saban thing, right? Like
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: it was clearly a Saban thing. And there's no shame
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: in that. There's no shame in losing to the greatest
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: football coach of all time. No shame. We get it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Kirby was under him. He knows Kirby's tendencies. That used
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: to be his DC. Like you could make those excuses,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: but to lose them to Kalen DeBoer, it was like,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: oh God, I think that's what reinvigorated the idea that
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: this is just, This is psychological more than it is
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: anything else. And like they need, you know, I assumed
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: that we would put that to bed after we beat
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: them in the national championship. It was like, all right,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: demon exercise. It doesn't matter. But it's endured. It has endured.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: because for all intents and purposes, we should have a
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: winning record against them over the last few years, considering
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: we've got two national championships. But it still is just
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: this thing where we can't beat them. And to be honest, Beau,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: the most insufferable part has been that I live with
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: a Vanderbilt Commodore. And this man has been so annoying
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: since Vandy beat Alabama last year. I low key, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: don't even care about getting trolled by Bama fans. I
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: want us to win so I can stop being trolled
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: by the Commodore that lives in my house. Like he
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: looked at the schedule yesterday and he was like, oh, perfect.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Alabama plays Vandy again next year or next week. So
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: don't worry about it. We'll avenge you again. I'm like,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: Oh my God. Like he's calling Vandy Thanos. He's saying
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: that they Thanos Alabama and they ended them. Every time
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Bama loses, he's taking credit saying that Vanderbilt did this
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: and broke them somehow. I'm so sick of his. braggadoce
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: because he's ground away for the first time in like
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: 50 years to beat a number one team. I'm tired
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: of it. So I need that more than anything just
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: so he can shut the fuck up.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt is ranked, for those of you who don't know this,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: they're honest to God ranked.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Who, Vandy?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yo, Vandy's not a cakewalk team anymore, yo. When I
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: look at Georgia's schedule and I'm like, okay, the no-brainer
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: wins like Vandy, Georgia Tech, those are not no-brainers anymore.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: That's why games like this are so important because that
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: last game of the year that used to be a
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: tune-up before the playoffs is not a tune-up anymore. We
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: saw that last year in the seven overtimes. Georgia Tech
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: is not to be played around with and Vandy either.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: The SEC is getting better.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Well, they went to South Carolina and smacked them.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Smoked them.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Right? Now, look. I mean, South Carolina does not appear
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to be as good as we thought they would be
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this year. That's fine. But that does not change the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: fact that they went in their house and beat them
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: by four scores.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: A tough place to play, by the way.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, boy. I'm rooting for you dogs a little bit.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I am. Like, I want to see the thing happen.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like– You're with your best, Bo. I feel like
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you're tiptoeing in this endorsement.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I like– I liked Georgia better when they weren't as good.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: When was that? Ten years ago.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've never loved UGA, but it's always
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: been in proximity to me. There are a lot of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: people in my life that are happier if Georgia wins,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: so I would like to see Georgia win in those cases,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Juggernaut Georgia, for whatever reason, hadn't
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: felt as fun to me as other juggernaut teams and
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: franchises have been. Juggernaut Alabama was not a lot of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: fun to me, obviously. But I don't know. So yeah,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: good for you guys if you go out there and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: get your dub. You feel me?
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: You know what I want to know? I have been
• 22:44
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• 22:47
  Speaker 3: how you feel about Arch Manning.
• 22:50
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• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Back with Elle Duncan. She asked how I felt about
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Arch Manning.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I actually think this is really interesting because I got
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: off that narcotic too because that narcotic wanted people to
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: sing a song that I found to be disrespectful to
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: my dignity. You understand what I'm saying? When Sarkeesian got
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that job, he came out there and was like, oh, yeah,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: we're going to stand on the line and we're going
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: to sing that song. I was like, all right, y'all
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: going to sing this song without me. But what I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: find interesting about Arch is in a much different way,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Arch reminds me of Josh Allen in the sense that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I looked up one day and was like, wow, the
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: only person that seems to be honest about Josh Allen
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: is Josh Allen.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: This is crazy.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Like everybody else talks about him in these terms that
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: don't always match reality or go a little bit too far.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But he seems to get what he is. I feel
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: the same way about Arch and his family with him, right? Like,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: when Firebomb got on TV and said he's the best
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: quarterback since Tim Tebow, it's been five quarterbacks since Tebow
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: that was better quarterbacks than Tim Tebow. Like, we just
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: set this boy up in a lot of ways for
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a standard that he couldn't reach.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: But I also find it objectively.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Interesting in a way that it's interesting because it's not
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: happening to me. he seems to be struggling with the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: weight of the pressure. Like he's out here when they
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: play against bad teams, he looks excellent. Yes. When they
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: play against good teams, he looks terrible. And it's all
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: right here between the ears. Right there between the ears.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It seems clearly to be that. And I don't know
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: if anybody knows exactly how to handle this because they
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: built up so much around him. If he winds up
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: becoming good after this, it will be very gratifying to
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: watch as an objective observer. Because what it takes to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: overcome something like that, I think, is what truly compels
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: us about sports in the first place. I'm with you. I.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that at the very least we put to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: bed that transitive property somehow helps you become a quarterback
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: because it's just so weird to me when people talk
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: about lineage. And it's like I understand, you know, the
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: family that he comes from. And I understand that that
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: means that he had access, right, to better coaching, that
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: he had access to better trainers, that he had more
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: tools to help him be an excellent quarterback. But he's
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: still an entirely different person with his own unique DNA.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I feel for the kid because they just were like, oh, well,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: because of Arch and because of Peyton and because of Eli,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: none of whom are his children, by the way. That's
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: not their kid. All of a sudden it was like, well,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: then he's just going to be a Hall of Famer.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, they were ready to put this dude... in Canton,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: like before he started his first game. And I'm not
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: going to reveal who told me this because I think
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: I don't want to dime them out. They spent some
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: time with Texas, but this is last year. And I
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't the biggest Quinn Ewers fan in the world. I
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: thought it was pretty average. And I was buying the
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: hype of like, it's Arch Manning. Like this guy's got
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: all the tools. He's got the this. He is the
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: quarterback that was promised. And I said to this person, like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I don't understand. Quinn's just okay. And Quinn's going to
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: be gone next year. You got to give Arch some reps, right?
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: You got to get Arch in there. Why not just
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: hand the keys to the kingdom to him, let him
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: work it out. And then you're poised and primed for
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: the next couple of years. And this person looked at
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: me and goes, yeah, what if Arch is actually not
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: that good? And I said, what do you mean? And
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: they're like, what if some of this is because the
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: coaches see him at practice every single day, unlike us.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And they know that he's not that good. And I
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: was like, that can't be true. And he was like,
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what I've heard, which is that
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the inconceivable, which is that maybe Arch isn't that good. Now,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: that was last year, obviously. And I don't think there's
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: some referendum on Arch Manning. I think the dude's going
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: to be a good quarterback. I think he's going to
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: be fine. But I do think that maybe.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: There was this bill of sales that was sold and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Texas bought into it and they bought into the name
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: and the hype. And I was told that they specifically
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: chose Texas because of the relationship, the family relationship with Sark.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: And they really thought that Sark was innovative offensively enough
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: to put Arch in the best position to win. Maybe
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Texas bought something that was not nearly as ready to
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: go as they thought. Like maybe they thought they were
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: buying the Lego structure already built and they realized, oh,
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: we got to put this shit together. And that's kind
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: of what we're seeing now. It's not been totally surprising
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: to me based on those comments from a colleague last
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: year that he's struggling in this way because I think
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: that if given an opportunity, it probably would have gone
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: with Quinn Ewers this year as well.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I think a big part of this is that winning
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the recruiting battle was as important as the player was. Yes. Right.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Like it was a big signal to everybody involved that
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: this is one that you want to win, regardless of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: how good the kid was or was not. And hey, man,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: go look it up. Five star recruits do not translate
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: into first round picks by definition. They don't translate into
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: all Americans by definition. The miss rate on five star
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: recruits is actually much higher. then I think people realize
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: that it is. And there were always questions about him.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: But I just feel like when you look around at
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: everything else, say what you want about Archie Manning. Archie
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Manning is not out here seeking all the attention for
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: his boys and for his grandson in this case. They
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: play a lay low game. We did all the stuff. Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: The media, 100%.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: It don't seem to be there. Now, I want to
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: switch gears with you a little bit because we got
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: something going in the NFL that I think is interesting.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I guess it's so interesting you living in Bristol where
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you kind of have two local teams, but no local
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: teams because you're halfway between New York and Boston. But
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the New York Giants, they have changed quarterbacks. They went
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: from Russell Wilson to Jackson Dart. And I want to
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: ask this question before we talk about Jackson Dart, because
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: now Russell Wilson is the backup. Jackson Dart's the number one.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: What is James there, doing card tricks on the sidelines? Like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: what is the point of having him if he can't
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: even be the number two after Russell Wilson was out
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: there looking like Silky Johnson's coat, except when he was
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: playing the even more rat-ass Make-A-Wish Foundation defense of the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Well, I think Jameis is there. He's the meme ambassador.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: He is literally there for soundbites and memes. Vibes.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: He's the vibes coordinator.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: He's the vibes guy, 100%. And listen, people have made
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: careers on less, so I'm with him there. But it's
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: sad because literally, you don't have to be Dr. Strange
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: to have Dr. Strange this. You could have played out
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: every scenario, and you knew it was always going to
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: land there. at Russell Wilson very early on in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: season getting benched in favor of Jackson Dart. Because when
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: it comes to the New York Giants, the other quarterback
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: in their mind is always the better quarterback. That's just
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: how they are. They want the thing that they don't have.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And I think for Russell Wilson, he has not done
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: enough to keep his job, certainly. But this idea that
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: the Giants think everything is going to be solved by
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: bringing in Jackson Dart is also wild to me. Good luck.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: First of all, quarterbacks drafted in the 20s, that don't
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: really go. Like that's a, that's a, that, that don't,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: that don't, that don't typically really hit the people who
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I trust on these things going into the draft. We're
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: not excited about this Jackson dart thing. And maybe it's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: been different since he got, you know, with a professional team,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I have no idea how good he is or is
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: not going to be. This is a classic coach trying
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: to save his job proposition. And I didn't understand day ball,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: but he did the press conference. And he said he
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: would not explain why Russell Wilson was losing his job.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: And you know what? Maybe it's kind of like Michael
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Stipe of R.E.M. once said that when he used to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: get pressured about coming out as gay, he said he
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: never came out because he thought it was obvious. Like,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: he didn't think there was, if there was a closet,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: it was glass. Like, he didn't think that this needed
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to be explained. Maybe that's Brian Dabo's thing about Russell Wilson. Like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: why is he losing his job? Did you watch the game? Like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I assume that y'all be going to all the games.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Did y'all see the game? Then, of course, you know,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I couldn't believe how bad he looked. I mean, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that tells you how bad the Cowboys are. Except in
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys game, he also looked as bad as he
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: looked in the last game, just except for the other,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: when he was just like, all right, just chuck it
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: up there, dawg.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the sad part is that was still one
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: of the best Russell Wilson games we've seen in some time.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, he threw for like four to 50 yards.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: And poor Malik Neighbors. Like normally, especially he's just in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: his second year.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: He is an old school, give me the damn ball
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: sort of receiver.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: And I can't think of a time that there's been
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: a receiver who has demonstrated this attitude in public and
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this young where we're all on his side.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: We're all on his team.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: He's like, you're wasting my good years. You know what though?
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I actually really love this for Russell Wilson because Russell
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Wilson has, have you ever had that person in your
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: life who's like, like just doggedly determined to be with
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: you even though you've done nothing nice to them like
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: they're just they're gonna love you through anything they're like
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: i know that you cheat on me and you're not
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: particularly nice to me and you border on verbal abuse
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: but i love you and this is the right he's
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: like that guy where it's like god what do i
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: have to do to just get you to go away
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: and it's not fair or nice it's not it's not
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: deserved like russell wilson has done nothing but like be
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: the good guy who loves his wife and goes to
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: children's hospitals on the day that he gets cut. And
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: for some reason, no one wants them there. They find
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: them to be cringy. And that is on the field,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: off the field. They don't want him. He dealt with
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: that in Denver. They didn't want him in Pittsburgh. They
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: don't want him in the Giants. And I feel like
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: for Russell Wilson, like I need him to be the
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: guy who is like shelled for a little bit. And
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: I need like him to become a little bit like
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: to take his villain turn. Like, I feel like this
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: is when Russell could take his villain turn and be like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: stop saying the right things. I'm going to support this
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: team in any way I can and be that guy.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: That's like, cool. You want Jackson dart? Good luck. And
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: sit back with popcorn and watch because Russell Wilson, I
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: do not think has what it takes to be a
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: starting quarterback anymore. But people are mad at Russell Wilson
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: for still trying. And that to me is what's wild.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: It's like, well, of course he's going to keep trying
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: to be a quarterback. It's not his fault that people
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: keep signing him, that people keep giving him historic money.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at you, Denver, that people keep giving him opportunities,
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: but they're mad at him for it. And it's not
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: his fault. The guy's just doing his absolute best. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I feel like this is like, hopefully when that tide
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: will turn for Russell Wilson, where someone is clamoring for him.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: If Jackson Dart does that, and I have no idea
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: if they're going to bail on Jackson Dart or if
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: they're just going to say, this is our move and
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: we're sticking with the guy no matter what, because it
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: doesn't really matter. We're like one in 15 in our
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: last 16 games. But God, like I feel for Russell
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Wilson at this point. And I don't know what inside
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: of him doesn't want to just let it go.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. If he makes his
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: villain turn, is his villain turn coming all the way
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: over here or going all the way over there? Does
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: he start doing a podcast with Dr. Umar or does
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: he start doing a podcast with Sage Steel?
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, he is married to Ciara, so I'm going
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: to say he's much more likely to go Dr. Umar
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: route than he is the other one.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Right, but if he's going to go the full villain,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: then go the full villain. You know what I'm saying?
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that that's going to curry him
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: any favor in this Hollywood world.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: I hear you, but also, I know a few things
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: about Ciara, but I don't know Ciara.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: For all I know, them little kids might have had
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: a measles. You know what I'm saying?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I got no clue.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: There he goes.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't know.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know what her get down is.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know what she read on the internet. But
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has the potential to be many types of villains,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: is all I'm saying.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: He does.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: He could choose one.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I was more thinking less political villain and more like
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: an Aqib Tlaib.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's what I'm saying. See, that would be
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: interesting because I guarantee you, I don't know if you've
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: ever seen the Russell Wilson hand measurement from the combine.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: You don't want to fight that man. Like when there
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: used to be a thing on the internet when people
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: used to talk about how the idea of future and
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson fighting.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Hey, man.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: The future would be to feed a pass if he
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: decided to square up with Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson would
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: be dog shit out of that boy, especially with him
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: taking all them drugs.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, future would probably have a
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: total lack of self-awareness of where he is. You get
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: him after he's been doing a studio session.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I believe it.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: He's also thin and he's tall. And I think Russell
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: could take him for sure. But that's what I'm saying.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I need to see him. I just, like, why not?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: What do you have to lose, Russ? Like, go out
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: just being a total dick. I want him to, like,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: I want him to become Aaron Rodgers. Like, I want
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: him to be like, I'm not here to help Jackson
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: dark that guy. Like, I want him to be a
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: villain because they still don't like you. They don't like
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Boy Scout version of you. They don't like any version
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: of you. So why not just turn it on him
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: and just be a total asshole? That's what I would do.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Yo, but here's the thing about the Giants. They might
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: have to go back to him.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Like, this move.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I assume that when you make the quarterback change, the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: coach typically, in my mind, like someone in the NBA,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: for example, players decide when it's time for the coach
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to go. Every now and then, the front office will
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: do it, but the players are going to be the
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: ones to let you know. Even if they don't fire
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the coach, they let you know when it's time for
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the coach to go. I think players also play a
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: big role in letting you know when the quarterback has
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: to go. Once the players are like, come on, man,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: you know this dude ain't the best player, and you
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: can feel it in everybody around, okay, now you got
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: to make the move. For whatever reason, the players believe
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that that guy is Jackson Darcy. But if Jackson Dart
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: is not that guy, are you just going to say,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: fuck it, let's have.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: A good time and go to Jameis?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Or are you going to maybe have to bring it
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: back to Russell Wilson, except everybody knows that ain't the group?
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: So you think I don't see a world where jamis
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: like i could see a world where they make up
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a fake injury and jackson dart needs to be shelled
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: because he's you know got turf toe or something like
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: that not the turf does not real but and then
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: you would go to maybe jamis but i don't see
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: a world where you know your choice is to go
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: with jamis winston again like The Giants have done this
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: so wrong. They're watching Daniel Jones look like Joe Montana.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yo, that's gotta hurt. That's gotta hurt.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Because it hurts me. And I ain't even got no
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: investment in this.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: He's balling. Yeah, you're balling.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: So they've done this wrong so many times. And I
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: think it always goes back, Bo, to the question that
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: we ask ourselves all the time. Do you ruin someone's
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: development if you yank them right away? What is psychologically,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: how is Michael Penix going to feel Knowing that, yes,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: he looked horrible against the Panthers, but their first solution
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: was to not even like in the game, the first
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: game that he looked like truly terrible to go right
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: to Kirk Cousins. Like, is that going to is he
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: always going to feel that guy over his shoulder? Is
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: that going to somehow impact him in his development? And
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I think if you're the Giants, again, there's no expectation
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: that you're going to do not in a division with
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: the Eagles and not in a division with the Cowboys
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: that look absolutely horrible, but still are better than you. Um,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I think that like, if you're the giants, you got
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: to roll with this thing. If you make the decision
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: to go with Jackson dart, he got his, you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: his O-line is healthier. Now, what I was hearing was
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: that they were waiting on their O-line to get healthy
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: so that they would put Jackson dart in the best
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: position again, just leaving Russell Wilson to the slaughter. Let's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: give them the B team offensive line and see if
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you can do okay. But I think you've got to
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: stay with the man. Like you have to, there's no
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: expectation for you to do anything this year. You got
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: to lose with the rookie and like, you got to
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: let them figure it out. That's my estimation. But again,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: it's the giants and they are undefeated at doing the
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: wrong thing.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I will propose a question about Jackson dart that I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: saw my good buddy, Shannon pin a place on the internet,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: which is who will be the first defensive player. To
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: snatch that chain off his neck. Have you seen that
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: chain that Jackson Dart been wearing to games?
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen the chain.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: He is out there.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And I just want to throw this out there for people.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is from, I got it on the screen
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: right here, Kaysville, Utah. Oh. Yes.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Where that?
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: It is in Utah, in the north part.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: So is that almost Idaho? Oh, God, my geography skills.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Are not great. I'm going to be honest with you.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: It's all the same to me over there. You know
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Like, like if ain't no state line,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: you ain't going to know. You know what I mean?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: But he, I want to know like when he decided
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: that the chain gang was going to be him. So
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: he started at USC and then he went to Ole Miss.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Like perhaps has he been radicalized? I've never heard him talk,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: but he seemed to have a swag that his fellow
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Utah and Zach Wilson did not have. Like you remember
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: when Zach Wilson was at the draft and the boys
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: was all dapping up around him and he looked like
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: he was on a scare straight special. Like he looked like,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: what if I, like, I'll be, I'll be, I'll be good. Like,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: let me go back to where I was. I promise
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'll be good. Jackson Dart got that chain. And so Shannon,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: like who's going to be the first person to snatch
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: that chain off his neck?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at the Giants schedule and I'm like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the Chargers, you can see Khalil Mack taking that thing.
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: The Saints, I don't know enough Saints players.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: But the Saints are losing so much, they got to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: win something. And my thing is this, man, is one
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: thing to leave snatch Crabtree's chain, not to take his chain,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: but just because he thought he didn't deserve to have
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: a chain. Like he snatched his chain and left it
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: on the field. In my day, I feel like it
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: was Moe Katz that would have been snatched his chain
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and kept it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Yes. Would have sold it back to him.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: So not gone the pawn shop route. Could you imagine
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: like walking in and trying to pawn off a chain
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: that you snatched from an NFL game? Is this yours? Yeah.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Why does it say Zach Wilson on it?
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Imagine having to go after the game to put in
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: a police report so that the pawn shop unit would
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: be able to keep an eye out. for your chain, right?
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: After that thing has been snatched. You poison these chains.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I am surprised that we don't see just more like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: hating ass chain snatching because I had uh I had
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: looked at Jackson Dart's chain and um I said to
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: someone I would leave nameless I was like hey man
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: if you wear that chain on the street he better
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: have a gun he begging to get robbed to which
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the response was he's from Utah and played college football
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in Mississippi and you think he don't got no gun
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: right this is to your point but I feel like
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that tells me he got like a far away gun
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he got like a walk around
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: piece Oh, no, he definitely has.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: A concealed weapon. That's like a rite of passage when
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: you come from those places. You're like, you get your
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: first shot, baby's first shotgun, and then baby's first concealed weapon.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: That's how they do it.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: What was that magazine you was in?
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Garden and Guns.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Garden and Guns.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Elle posted this on the internet. She did an interview
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: or a spread or whatever for a magazine, I bullshit you.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Not, called Garden and Guns.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: And I had to call Elle and say, does that
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: magazine say Garden and Guns? Yep.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Two most important things to any Southern woman's life. You
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: got your garden and you got your gun, baby.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: We're good. No, that is the... So when Texas went
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to its concealed weapon law, the woman that was really
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: behind it, I don't know if you guys remember, this
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: is obviously a terrible story, but one day somebody drove
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: a car through the window of a Luby's cafeteria in Killeen,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Texas and shot the place up. They killed like 20-something
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: people before killing himself. But one of the women who
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: was there She went to her purse, but she didn't
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: have her gun in her purse. And that was the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: narrative that was used to get the concealed weapon game
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: opened up in Texas. But what I found so interesting
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: about the story was, as I recall, she went for
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: the gun and didn't have it. Not, I didn't have
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: my gun because I wasn't allowed to bring it. She
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: was going to be in there with the tool. Sure.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: She was like, I'm going to have it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: The tool was going to be had.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just going to answer questions later. I mean,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: when I first got my gun, when I lived in Georgia,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I was dealing with a bit of a stalker sitch. And, um,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: so I had never shot a gun before. I'd never
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: held a gun before. I'd never loaded a gun before.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: And I go to wild bills down in Buckhead, which
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: I believe is still there. And it's very famous in
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Georgia for guns. And I walk in and I'm nervous
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: and I'm scared. And I'm like, I need to purchase
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: a gun, you know? And I'm thinking like, I'm going
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: to get the fifth degree. And they're just like, what
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: kind of gun? I was like, I don't know. I've
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: never shot a gun before. And they were like, Well, uh,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: we got, you know, uh, I think a 38 revolver
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: is going to be best for you. Now, if you
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: want to keep this thing in your purse, you're going
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: to want to get the one with no safety on it. Uh, and, uh,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: because sometimes it can get snagged on a perch. And, uh,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: so we're going to go ahead and get you this one.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, all right. And they were like, and yeah,
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: you need some bullets. I was like, yes. And so
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: they hand me the gun, they hand me the bullets
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't know how to load this.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: And they're like, cool, we'll show you loads it up.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: And I was like, is that all? And they're like, yeah, just,
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: you know, give us your license. We're going to do
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: a background check. And within 15 minutes I had a
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: gun and I was like, okay, well, I don't know
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: any of the rules. Like, where am I allowed to
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: take the gun? And they were like, well, unless you
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: get a concealed carry permit, you can only keep the gun.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: at your house. And I was like, oh, okay, well,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: that doesn't really help me. I'm out all the time.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to get this concealed carry permit.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: And then he looks at me and he goes, however,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: because of Georgia laws, your house has some extensions. Your
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: car is an extension of your house and your work
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: is an extension of your house. And I was like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: so wait, so I can take it in my car
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: and also into work? And they were like, yes, you can.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I was like, well, hell, okay. And it was just
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: completely wild to me that in georgia you didn't have
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: to have a concealed carry permit because everything is apparently
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: an extension of your home when you can carry it
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: anyway so yeah man like it's real i don't know
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: where the point of that story was going other than
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: to be like guys yeah it's kind of wild it's
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: kind of unbelievable that you can literally walk in with
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: no gun acumen and walk out with a killing gun
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: within like 25 minutes.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: And by the way i was wrong the woman um
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: her gun was in the car She was there and
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: her parents got killed. And she said she would have
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: liked to have had her gun, but she thought she
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: might lose her chiropractor's license. So she left it in
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the car. And with all due respect, ma'am, I don't
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: know what you think you were about to have done.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what you thought was going to happen.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Everybody is always a hero in their mind until they're
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: in that situation.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: It's not just that the movies make you think that
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: anybody could be John McClane. It's not that. It's that
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: the movies have all these scenes of unassuming people who
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere wobbly hold a gun and shoot somebody
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: and make the big kill as opposed to hitting themselves
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: in the face with their pistols.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: That recoil is a bitch.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Like the idea, I think this is an underrated part
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: about the gun. First of all, guns are a wild
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: piece of engineering when you stop and think about it.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: You can just hold a killing machine in your hand, right?
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: But the idea that you have to learn how to
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: shoot a gun tells you how much power we're really
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: talking about.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Because it looks pretty simple to me.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Point and shoot. Like a camera. But it's not like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a camera at all.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Not at all.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: And I got a revolver because it was the easiest
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: to load, right? You didn't have to deal with clips
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: and things like that. And I did obviously learn how
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: to shoot once I got my gun. I took some
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: training and whatnot. But yeah, that kickback, depending on how
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: big the gun is, that's what you don't. And what
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: really you don't prepare for is when it gets jammed.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: And then you're really in a precarious situation. That's how
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: most people end up shooting themselves. The gun jams and
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: you don't know how to appropriately take it apart. I
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: love the Bomani show because the right time, it's always
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: the right time to even get into gun conversation.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing about this. We started out talking
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: about football, and now we're here at guns.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I love that you trust me enough to know that
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: you can go to the gun place, and I'm going
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to keep us all safe no matter what. You know
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Wherever it goes, if it was a problem,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: I'd have shut it down. But it's not a problem,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to keep us all safe, and I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: love that you know that like, I am going to
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: keep you safe.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I want to run this one thing by you right fast.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Um, we got Baltimore and Kansas city and you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: black quarterback situation. We got enough black quarterbacks out here
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: that I ain't got to root for them all. But
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: it dawned on me last week when my Lions were
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: playing against Baltimore, it hadn't dawned on me that since
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I had picked up a team, that meant that every
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: now and then I was going to have to root
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: against Lamar.
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: Cause like, that's not really what I do.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like in a lot of ways he
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: need us to stand by him, but now it's not
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: just that it's Lamar and Mahomes is that they both
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: really need the dub.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's unbelievable to think that after this weekend, one
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: of those teams is going to be one in three.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: Like that's wild.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Do you have, by the way, do you have.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: A, a black quarterback ranking support chart? Like who you
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: support the most? I imagine that you do. And I
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: imagine that I know some of the characteristics that go
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: into why you support. So like, cause there's 16 now, right?
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: 16. It's a lot. It's a lot. Like we got,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: you know, It's getting harder and harder to explain to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: these white folks that there is still racism out here.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like, not to say that
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: this is proof that it's not, but just to say
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that white people got a low threshold. So it becomes
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: very difficult to explain this. Lamar is still very high
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: up on this, right? Except... Hey, man, there's a lot
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: of fair criticism to be made. And in order to
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: do this properly, we got to be honest about the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: fact that y'all can't keep coming apart late. And you
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: may not be the reason that y'all lose these games,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: but you're also not the reason that y'all win these games. Right. Mahomes,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: I actually feel like he don't need our support, but
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: he has earned it. Sure. You know, and look, Josh
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Allen is that dude right now, but I still feel
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: like it's been a lot of effort to tiger-proof the NFL,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: at least in people's minds, to downplay the glory and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: the greatness of the best quarterback that I've ever seen.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: He kind of need us. I think we need to
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: keep something extra in the clip for Jordan Love. because
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: he got the chance to be that dude. But the
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: last time I looked in Green Bay, well, I think
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: they still got Malik Willis, but there was a year
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: where they didn't have a black up for him. And
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: that made me feel like they wouldn't really invest it.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: But now that they got a black up, a black
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: up named Malik, no less, I feel a lot better
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: about where they are and how they're supporting him. I'm
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: really there for Geno Smith because I just feel like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: he's the only man that's ever been blamed for somebody
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: sucker punching him. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: then he came back, and he made it happen, and
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: he became that dude, and he played for Bums.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: He need us.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make a horrible comparison. Geno Smith, to me,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: a little bit, is becoming like the quarterback version of
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Marvin Lewis.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Keep going. Where.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I supported Marvin Lewis for so long because I thought
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: he was a really good coach. And obviously I felt like,
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: you know, with black coaches, they're held to a different
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: standard and all the stuff that we already know. But
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: then it got to a point where it was like, oh,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: you've had so many chances.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, but that don't count for Gino. Gino ain't had
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: all these chances though. He's had, he's.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: He's had, no, he's had chances. I'm just saying like
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: he's had enough chances. That if there was going to
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: be some big sort of leap into being a championship
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: caliber quarterback, I feel like we would have seen it
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: by now.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: He's got chances. Okay, so no. He got that first
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: chance with the Jets that wasn't really a chance. Okay.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Then the Giants teased him with a chance. Sure.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: And when he got to play one game, they fired
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: the coach for it.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Right. He made his backup moves. He got to Seattle
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: and he he was doing well. Right. He did well.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: And now he's in this new place because Seattle just
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: didn't want to pay him. I feel like he is
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: more of a twice as hard poster boy that he
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: is a you have had all night at Russell Wilson.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: That boy, he has Justin Fields. Yeah, he's had.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: We can make the you had chances argument.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not with you on Justin Fields, though. I'm not
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: with you on Justin Fields. I think that he has
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: not had any. Russell Wilson that we're seeing right now
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: is the same Russell Wilson we saw glimpses of in Seattle.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: It's why Seattle was snickering when they traded him to
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: the Broncos and the Broncos gave him $ 150 million. They
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: were like, we're seeing that same guy. through the course
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: of three different teams. But with Justin Fields, if at
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: the very beginning of Russell Wilson's career, he had a
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: different coordinator every single year. Like, I don't think that
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Justin Fields has been given the benefit of time and maturation.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I don't like, I think I, I'm not saying Justin
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: Fields is ever going to be a championship caliber quarterback.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, that he has not been in situations.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: He wasn't that bad last year for the Steelers when
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: they decided to move on and go to Russell Wilson
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: for no other reason than they just thought, this is
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: just okay and let's choose another. Let's just see. It's
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: the same thing that the Giants are doing right now.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think that he's had an opportunity in the
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: right system with consistency of coordinator and consistency of weapons
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: to show what he can do. I don't. I don't
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: feel that way.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Are you just feeling a little bit guilty because your
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: team decided that he would rather play Jake Fromm than
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: to play Justin Fields? There's a part of that, too.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Are you serious? They're just the twins of Georgia being Georgia?
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: A little bit, yeah. But you know what? Ultimately, I
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: think that when it comes to black quarterbacks, while we've
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: obviously grown quite a bit and there's a bunch of
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: them that are starting, they're still held to a standard like,
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: What else can Jalen Hurts do to show you guys
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: he's a top 10 quarterback? That conversation is tiresome too.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Anybody else in his position that is done and see,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: you're obviously one of those guys. And I'm like, I
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: don't like, listen, I'm not saying- then in a fucking
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: one-on-one competition with Patrick Mahomes, I'm going to choose Jalen Hurts.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: But to act like this dude is strictly a system
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: quarterback and he's only benefiting from Saquon Barkley or their
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: great run game or from a fantastic offensive line, I
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: just think diminishes a little bit what Jalen Hurts does.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I'm rooting for Jalen Hurts for that reason alone.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I will just say this about Jalen Hurts. I made
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the point, I think, last week about Joe Burrow. that
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: I've only seen Joe Burrow be excellent in the presence
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: of surrounding excellence. And it's not his fault because not
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: everybody does that, right? But Joe Burrow in LSU with
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame wide receivers, and he got one of
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: them to come with him to Cincinnati, wound up on
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: the same team. That's when I've seen Joe Burrow be
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that guy. I can make the same exact argument about
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, but when I have seen Jalen Hurts while
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: surrounded by adventures, he does not look like no Joe Burrow.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Fair.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: And again, I'm not saying that he is Joe Burrow.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I think Joe Burrow is a top five quarterback talent.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: But to say that Jalen Hurts isn't even top 10,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: I just don't understand what exactly it is that we're
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: judging or looking at when it comes to results, when
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: it comes to fit, when it comes to the ability
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: to extend plays. No, he's not one-on-one. But guess what?
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: He's experienced a whole hell of a lot more success
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: than Joe Burrow has.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: He has.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: A ton more. Because all Joe Burrow has is every
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: single record but no Super Bowls.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Here's what I say about Jalen Hurst that I think
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: is very interesting. He is a guy that has all
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: of the leader guy qualifications.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean that dismissively. I mean that literally, right?
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Like he's the guy that you want out front and
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: he is just good enough that he can unlock the
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: benefits of being that guy, right? Because if you are
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: that guy and have all those characteristics and you can't
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: play It doesn't matter. Jameis Winston is a great example
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: of that, who's got all the leader stuff, but he's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: not good enough to where that can take you over
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: the top.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Hurts is just good.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Enough with the teams that he's got that you then
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: get like this turbo boost from the fact that he
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: is the guy that you want out front. Because let's
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: be honest, that coach they got, don't nobody want him
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: in charge of nothing. I don't care what nobody say.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: If it's coming down to following him or following Jalen Hurts,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you're going to follow Jalen Hurts. Like, that's where I
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: give him the credit, and I can't. He's been to
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl twice. They've won one. You can't take
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: any of those things away from him, and that's just
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: going to have to be good enough for him.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of Nick Sirianni, do you ever
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: watch South Park?
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Every time I see Nick Sirianni, the first image that
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: pops into my head is Mr. Towley.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Is that okay? Is that him?
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: No, that's the towel that gets high and is like,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going on.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: That's all I hear.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: Every time they show him on the sideline, I just hear,
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going on.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I was so sure that they were going to fire
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: that man last year just because he gives off fire
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: me vibes. They have won 19 out of 20 games.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: And that man was on the hot seat entering last season.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, they did have a pretty epic collapse before
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: last season, but yes, he was on the hot seat.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: And to think the run that they've been on, man,
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: they must love him because they certainly kept his job.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I got news for you. He'll be on the hot
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: seat forever.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: That is a guy. you're not going to tell me
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that they don't change their mind about him. They just
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: won more games. Like if it came down to who
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: we got to, we got to keep Jalen Hurts or
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: we got to keep Sirianni, I'm keeping Jalen Hurts every
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: single time.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Well, for sure. He does give big fire me energy.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: He does. There's a few dudes whose faces are just like,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: they give like pick me, fire me energy. And yeah,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: you're right. He's one of them.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: He strikes me as a guy where somebody asks you, right,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: so what makes him good at his job? And they'd
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: be like, man, what you got to understand, man, is
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: he cool as hell.
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I always feel like I can go talk to him. Like, oh, word.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: What else?
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: That's what we talk about. Let me tell you this, too.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I don't care if they just won a Super Bowl
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: or not. We're this close to A.J. Brown losing his
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: goddamn mind and being out there reading books again.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God, bro. I feel like we keep having
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: sort of these interactions between Andy reed and travis kelsey
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: i'm just waiting on our aj brown versus nick sirianni
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: moment because it's coming.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: So that's the thing it's not gonna be with jalen
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: hurts cats rock with him a little bit too tough
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: it looks like he going straight to nick sirianni even
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: if it's about jalen hurts 100%. He going straight to
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Sirianni like, yo, so what's up with the ball, homie?
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: And that's one thing. When you got two good receivers
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: that ain't getting the ball as much as they're supposed to,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Devontae Smith seemed like he a play it cool type,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: you feel me?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's a short football player.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: We know they all got attitude.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. They want the ball.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: They all got attitude. Jalen, hey, I give this up
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: to Devontae Smith.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: He has... He gives all the little guy without giving
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: any of the little guy. He reminds me of this
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: one receiver that used to wear blue and number 88.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: In terms of the way he plays, I would never
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: say that dude's name out here. I hear he got
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: a son that played for Arizona, but I don't really know.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, right? We're going to
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: be good about that. But something about what had Devontae
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Smith seemed like, oh, he played cool. On the other hand,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I bet he will go awful young.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see it. He doesn't give like small
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: man energy, like you said, but he's already doing things
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: like calling out security guards. So this feels like a
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: little bit of a ramp up. First it's a security guard.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: Then it's something about the strength and conditioning coach. And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: before you know it, it's an all out assault on
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: one of his teammates. Yeah.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: He is also from South Louisiana and he looked like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: a dude from South Louisiana. And you just need to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: lead them dudes B. But if a dude is six foot,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: 170 pounds playing NFL football, trust me. Is it in you? Yes, 100%.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: It is. I'm going to ask you one last thing
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: before we get out of here. We had somebody leave
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: a voicemail earlier this week. I referred to Anthony Edwards
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: as being the most Atlanta dude possible, and the caller
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: asked me to define what it means to be an
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Atlanta dude in that context, and I struggled to put
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: it into words. Do you have any words for this?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. It's always really tough because people have
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: said this to me when people will comment, like, she's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: so Atlanta, and someone will be like, what does that
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: even mean? And I'm like, it's... It's sort of like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: a state of mind, if you will. It's your ability
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: to be equal parts businesswoman, businessman, and also ratchet. It's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: your ability to say what is on your mind at
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: all times, all the time, no filter, no censorship whatsoever.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: But I think more than anything, it's just a feeling, Beau.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: You can't describe what it means to feel pure joy.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: And you can't describe what it means to be Atlanta.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: You just recognize that shit when you see it. And
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards is incredibly Atlanta. Cause here's the thing. There
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: are Atlanta luminaries that are not actually from Atlanta. So
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: I've heard people will be like, you know, like I'm
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: not from the city of Atlanta. I'm from the burbs
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: from Marietta and powder Springs, Georgia.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: And I moved into the city when I started doing
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: hip hop radio at 21 years old. And I lived
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: there for 10 years before I ultimately moved away to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: Boston and And so some of my formative years, you know,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: became more Atlanta when I moved into the city. But
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: like when I hear people be like, man, Quavo, he's
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: so Atlanta. I'm like, Quavo's like me. He's from out
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: from Lawrenceville. That ain't Atlanta. That's the Burbs, bro. That's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: the Burbs.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: So I, yeah.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: So, or when people say like Jalen Brown, I'm like,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: he's from Marietta.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Nah, nah.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: I think he went to like Pope.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: What I think of somebody being like very Atlanta and
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, this is the phrase I imagine him telling
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: somebody in response to something. That's what I was trying
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: to tell you. The thing about the Atlanta dudes, Atlanta
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: dudes operate under this premise.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Don't act like you don't understand what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: It is the decision that this code switching will be
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: minimal because, and I abide by this wholly myself, stop
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: acting like you don't know what I mean. You understand
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: You feel me?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: You knew exactly what I meant when I said that.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about? You feel me? You
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: feel me, bruh?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I worked with a dude that is the most Atlanta
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: person I've ever met. His name is Little Bankhead. It's
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: not little, it's little. And he is a radio personality
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: still in Atlanta. Shout out to Little Bankhead. And I've
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: never met anyone more Atlanta in my entire life. Like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: he claims that he's the person that coined the phrase
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: going ham. He claims that he's the one that coined
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: that phrase many, many years ago. But he's talking to
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: him is it's like a caricature version of an Atlanta person.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: You know, he's definitely that person that still says things like,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: you know, You keep on talking, you finna get your
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: goddamn wig split. You know what I.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Mean?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: Everything, got down is, bookends every sentence. So, got down, man. Man,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: these bitches be all on me, got down.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: That is very Atlanta-istic. 100%.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the bookend with got down.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: And yeah, so like when I think of Atlanta people,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: like it's just, it's a little bit of that, but
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: it also can be, you know, Andrea Carter is from
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: Atlanta and we have very similar music tastes and we
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: always say it's because we're from Atlanta. So like, yes,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: we can do some Pussycat Dolls and some Britney Spears,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: but then also Ying Yang Twins and Future. And like,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's just sort of all encompassing because while
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: Atlanta is dubbed Black Hollywood, it is incredibly diverse. And
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I think that that's the cool part is that you
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: just get little Little pieces from wherever you are. But yes,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards stands among them. He's our champ.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: This is where I'm going to ask people to jump
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: in on the voicemail line. Everybody knows somebody that swear
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: they invented a phrase or they coined one. I got one.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I believe that using cape as a verb to describe
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: someone putting on his cape and coming to save the day.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I firmly believe I did that. You started caping?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Probably not. But I feel I don't feel like I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: heard nobody else saying it before I did. Like every
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: now and then you got to go on Twitter and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: search stuff. So like I call Trey Young Trey DeBarge.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: And I did not get this from anybody else. But
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I searched on Twitter and I saw that before the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: first time I had ever called him Trey DeBarge, other
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: people had called him Trey DeBarge. Right. Like we all
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: did come up with this together. I tell people all
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: the time, my advisor in graduate school is adamant that
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: he is the first person to ever call Barry White
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the walrus of love. My brother believes that he is
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the first person ever to use the phrase drop the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: deuce to describe a bowel movement. I know for a
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: fact that I'm the reason y'all don't say that wide
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: receiver's name in the street. Like I know that started here,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: but everybody got something that they like. Nah, nobody was
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: saying that before I was saying that.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Before I said it.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: We all know people like your man believes that he
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: invented going ham.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: He will stand on that. He'll tell you no one
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: was using going ham until he started using going ham.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: You are unequivocally- the orchestrator of Get Off That Narcotic,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: which I will be wearing for the rest of my
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: life in any poor situation. That is 100% you and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I will give you that one. I don't know about
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: the other ones though. I don't know.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but look, I just, I don't like
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: trade a barge. I'm willing to share that with other people,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: but I did come up with it by myself, even
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: if I was not the first person.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: You should get credit for that. I'll think of something
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: and I'll think it's really clever and I'll do the
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: same thing. I'll like Twitter search it and I'll be like, shit,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: a bunch of other people did. I'm still running with
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: it because it was conceived in my brain.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: Organically and holistically. So I'm taking credit for it, period.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I know that I am the first and only person
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: ever on SportsCenter to describe someone celebrating too early as premature,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I'm jacked elation.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: Wow. I am amazed that they allowed you to do
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: that twice.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Well, allow is not exactly the word.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of ask for forgiveness. But I definitely,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: I did drop that on a sports center and it was,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: it went exactly over like you thought that it would.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: It was great.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: But you know what? In part, I personally would not
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: want to be the person who told you that it
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: was inappropriate for it may appear that that person was
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: a bit defensive about the idea. It's not funny. You
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: may think that it's funny, but I'm telling you right now,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: there's nothing funny about it. It's a thing that people
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: go through.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: There's somebody up there.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's somebody up there that was just a little
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: bit too salty about it.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: He was like, yo, bro, I didn't even think it
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: was that big a deal.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a great play on words.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Little did I know. I'm jacked elation.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Premature, I'm jacked elation.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: Well done. Well, like the fact that you came, did
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: you workshop that? Did it just come to you all
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: at once?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: Um, it, it, it, I didn't really workshop it. It
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: kind of came to me in the moment. I was like,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: what would it be? You know, um, Keith Olbermann used
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: to say premature jocularity. I didn't, I didn't, they didn't
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: make a ton of sense to me. So I just
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: did a play that worked for me premature. I'm jacked elation.
• 1:07:50
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• 1:07:52
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• 1:07:55
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• 1:07:58
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• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: always let her know that she needs to come back
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: on the show sometime soon.
• 1:08:05
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• 1:08:06
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• 1:08:07
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• 1:08:08
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