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Normally Podcast: Blocking Traffic Won't Get You Peace! · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we are back on the show when Normal,
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  Speaker 1: which takes from Windom News gets weird.
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  Speaker 2: I am Mary Tavin here.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm Carol Marco. I'm Mary Catherine. How are you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. There's no rioting by my house,
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  Speaker 2: so we're good.
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  Speaker 3: Not from yet.
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  Speaker 4: It spreads, It does spread.
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  Speaker 3: The protests do continue in Los Angeles, and despite the
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  Speaker 3: fact that we are frequently told on the ex platform
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  Speaker 3: that they are contained and we're being hysterical, Mayor of
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  Speaker 3: Los Angeles did impose a curfew last night, which is
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  Speaker 3: odd for protests that are not spreading and are super contained,
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  Speaker 3: and they are spreading to other places like Chicago, New
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  Speaker 3: York City.
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  Speaker 4: They tried it in Tampa.
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  Speaker 3: One of my Twitter buddies, West Tennessee Barbecue described it
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  Speaker 3: as tens and tens of people. Yeah, and there were
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  Speaker 3: a lot of counter protesters and it was all quite hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: But they are calling for a day of action this Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: so it remains to be seen whether these protests really
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  Speaker 3: will spread to other cities and cause fires and damage
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  Speaker 3: there as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, look, I'm fine with you guys being
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  Speaker 1: wary of the federal government's exertion of power.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the party on that. And protests are how
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  Speaker 2: you address that? That's fine?
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  Speaker 4: Protest away, yeah, pro just away.
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  Speaker 1: Do not set things on fire, easy call, Do not
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  Speaker 1: block traffic, do.
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  Speaker 2: Not loot, do not loot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, did you see that the I
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  Speaker 1: saw a clip where some Apple iPhones that have been
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  Speaker 1: looted in LA started blaring alarms and saying return me
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  Speaker 1: to the such and such store or it's amazing, like
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  Speaker 1: the AI gotcha, and the AI was like, we're going
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  Speaker 1: to contact the authorities on behalf of this stolen iPhone.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, I was like, the iPhones have
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  Speaker 1: risen up in defense of the waymos, which.
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  Speaker 2: Self driving cars. Amazing. Yeah, so just like, don't do
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  Speaker 2: those things.
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  Speaker 5: Don't do those things.
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  Speaker 1: Already in New York City where protests have begun, you
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  Speaker 1: have folks blocking traffic. And you know what that means, Carol,
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  Speaker 1: is that normis can't do normal things because there are
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  Speaker 1: people who just need to run errands, and there are
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  Speaker 1: people who need to pick up their kids from daycare,
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  Speaker 1: people who need to go to work. And you and
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  Speaker 1: I both saw this fantastic clip illustrating the dynamic between
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  Speaker 1: normal city dwellers and lefty protesters where a woman is
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  Speaker 1: trying to go to work, and this is the interaction
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  Speaker 1: she has with two lily white.
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  Speaker 2: Protesters important there who are.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt well educated and for some reason able to
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  Speaker 1: take off a Tuesday to protest in the streets and
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  Speaker 1: block her way.
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  Speaker 2: And here's the interaction that they.
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  Speaker 6: Have about, I just knock again, you're not going?
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  Speaker 7: How is it the people protest?
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  Speaker 5: How I'm stopping a black woman from going to work?
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  Speaker 6: Oh no, not work?
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  Speaker 3: So you don't care about stopping black people from going
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  Speaker 3: to work?
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  Speaker 5: Look at this, I'm not pausing the facial expressions.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of make that video so if you can look
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  Speaker 3: it up and go see her. But when he starts
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  Speaker 3: making fun of the idea of her going to work,
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  Speaker 3: her face is like if she was ever sympathetic to
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  Speaker 3: any part of this, she no longer is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, not work.
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  Speaker 1: Has never been uttered by someone who doesn't have resources like.
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  Speaker 2: This guy is fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, this tonytailed lib is gonna be fine. He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: have plenty of food today and all the things he
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  Speaker 1: needs furnished for him. She would like to furnish those
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  Speaker 1: things for her children. And this is what she gets
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  Speaker 1: and she I love the part where she's like like
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  Speaker 1: help me, help my yess and they're like they're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're American, can't care about you.
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  Speaker 5: Today is not about your kid.
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  Speaker 1: It is such a clear illustration of so many things
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  Speaker 1: that drive this and I know there are sincere people
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  Speaker 1: out there, but telling that poor woman that this is peace,
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  Speaker 1: thus blocking a roadway is peace, that this is good
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  Speaker 1: people things.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing good people things.
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  Speaker 1: Stop yelling at us, lady who wants to feed your
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  Speaker 1: children and her saying you could help me by just moving.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. It's very simple. You don't have to set
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  Speaker 2: anything on fire. Just let me drive.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, has her.
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  Speaker 3: Not being able to drive help them? Like, how in
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  Speaker 3: the world is it at all helping any clause that
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  Speaker 3: they want to support at all? I just it never
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  Speaker 3: made any sense to me, like, let me inconvenience a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of people who might even be on our side,
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  Speaker 3: and that will make them be on our side, because
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  Speaker 3: it won't. It definitely will not.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Drew talked about the song Guy Benson Show recently,
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  Speaker 1: talking about the sort of the mental health mental health
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  Speaker 1: issues that liberals self identify with at far higher levels
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  Speaker 1: than Republicans, and he was talking about that and he
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  Speaker 1: said a lot of this and sort of left activism
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  Speaker 1: is an exercise in just having emotions loudly and putting
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  Speaker 1: them on other people, right, And so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this is because if you ask them to explain how
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  Speaker 1: it's going to help, they don't know. They're just like,
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  Speaker 1: we're making noise, We're doing the thing. We want you
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  Speaker 1: to feel the pain that we want you to feel,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the end of the plan. And I think
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  Speaker 1: the same is true of their leaders, where Newsom and
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  Speaker 1: Bass are just having sort of emotional outbursts saying like
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  Speaker 1: come at me, tough guy, and it's like arrest me,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you? Why are you tough guy? The criminals
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  Speaker 1: that would be that would be the thing to do.
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  Speaker 1: And in these cities, I just am so fed up.
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  Speaker 1: And look, it's why I don't live in a major city,
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  Speaker 1: but I am so fed up on behalf of people
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  Speaker 1: who live there with the idea that just simple things
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  Speaker 1: like law enforcement being allowed to say no, you can't
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  Speaker 1: block the road, is that's somehow fascist?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know, the last episode, we talked about
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  Speaker 3: how people were minimizing all of this and The La
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  Speaker 3: Times had an article titled all of LA is not
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  Speaker 3: a war zone. Okay, I was writing a market and
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  Speaker 3: I did mock it a little bit because, okay, not
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  Speaker 3: all of LA is a war zone. Even if only
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  Speaker 3: part of one of our major cities is a war zone,
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  Speaker 3: I find that problematic.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is the this is the jd Vance line
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  Speaker 2: from the debate.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like one hotel taken over by.
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  Speaker 2: Would be yeah, more than enough for us to be
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  Speaker 2: out about.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly so.
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  Speaker 3: But the La Times had that headline and they said
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  Speaker 3: we separate facts from spin and disinformation abid amid immigration raids.
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  Speaker 3: And I guess the La Times is actually working on
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  Speaker 3: being a real newspaper. So the article did actually clear
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  Speaker 3: up some disinformation, which I found, you know, unusual.
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  Speaker 5: There were stories, it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was really wild because because I immediately made fun
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  Speaker 3: of the headline and then I read the article and
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  Speaker 3: I was like, this article is not bad, this is
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  Speaker 3: pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: They clickbaited and then did some journalism under it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh they really got me.
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  Speaker 3: So there were stories circulating n LA that ice had
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  Speaker 3: raided a school, and lots of people spread it of
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  Speaker 3: course on X you know, like they're ripping these kids
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  Speaker 3: out of their middle school graduations.
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  Speaker 4: The LA Time article says this did not happen.
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  Speaker 3: There was another story about ice rating a hotel and
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  Speaker 3: taking out workers that didn't happen either. They allude to
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  Speaker 3: the home depot story, but that's the only one they
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  Speaker 3: were kind of weak on.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't specifically say it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: But there's been a lot of reports that the home
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  Speaker 3: depot raid that also was rumored to have happened, yeah, also.
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  Speaker 4: Did not happen.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know how many people are listening to
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  Speaker 3: this that are inflamed by stories that they're hearing. I
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  Speaker 3: think probably our audience is a little bit more savvy
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  Speaker 3: than that.
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  Speaker 4: I think that they would not automatically believe sensational stories.
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  Speaker 5: But if you do, if you've heard.
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  Speaker 3: Stories, like, give it a minute. I take this approach
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  Speaker 3: to anything, really, to any major story breaking, give it
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  Speaker 3: a second, see what develops.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and like all of these things, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: do think that there are ways that the federal government
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  Speaker 1: can certainly overstep in doing its duty, which the cities
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  Speaker 1: are preventing it from doing. I worry about marines because
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  Speaker 1: what are the rules of engagement here?
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  Speaker 2: That is a step beyond National Guard.
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  Speaker 1: National Guard I'm pretty comfortable with because I don't I
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  Speaker 1: didn't love twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't love Summer of twenty twenty. Guys.
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  Speaker 5: Some of the summer riots not for me.
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  Speaker 1: Really, I'm done with that. And so I'm okay with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, enforcing the laws. And many Americans are, and
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  Speaker 1: as CNN found out, a lot of those Americans are
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  Speaker 1: in the immigrant community. I love when Harry Enson, who
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  Speaker 1: is the numbers guy at CNN, the poll like, look
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  Speaker 1: deep at the polling guy when he comes out. He
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  Speaker 1: does about a weekly segment where like Kate Baldwin, the
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  Speaker 1: anchor has to be like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh right, really, and he's just like, he's.
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  Speaker 1: Just like breaking brains with this seemingly counterintuitive information.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear him do so.
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  Speaker 8: Start off on the fact that immigrant citizens, immigrant voters
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  Speaker 8: forigm bow and voters have gone tremendously to the right
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  Speaker 8: on this issue in twenty twenty four and twenty twenty
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  Speaker 8: five versus where they were on twenty twenty. Closest to
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  Speaker 8: trust more in immigration, you go back to twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 8: Democrats Get This held a thirty two point lead on
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  Speaker 8: this issue. Immigrant voters were in the Democratic camp. Jump
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  Speaker 8: forward to twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that.
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  Speaker 8: Shift, a forty point shift to the right among immigrant voters.
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  Speaker 8: Republicans now lead on this issue by eight points over Democrats,
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  Speaker 8: more so than any other group that I could find.
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  Speaker 8: The group of voters who became more hawkish on immigration
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  Speaker 8: were in fact immigrants themselves, immigrants who are registered to
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  Speaker 8: vote in this country.
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  Speaker 2: So that's on that issue. How about how they feel
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  Speaker 2: about kind of traditionally historically about Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know, you see this shift, and you go,
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  Speaker 8: what is going on underneath the hood? Well, take a
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  Speaker 8: look donald Trump. You remember when he first ran back
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  Speaker 8: in twenty sixteen, immigrant voters are one of his weakest bots.
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  Speaker 8: But look at this. Trump's vote share in presidential elections
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  Speaker 8: among again immigrant citizens, those who are registered to vote.
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  Speaker 3: Look at this.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen, you got.
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  Speaker 8: Thirty six percent of the vote. You go to twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 8: thirty nine percent of the vote. Look at this in
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  Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, all the way up to fight forty
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  Speaker 8: seven percent of the vote. Some polls I looked at
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  Speaker 8: had him barely losing that vote. Some poles I looked
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  Speaker 8: at had him barely winning that vote. Again, there is
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  Speaker 8: no block of voters that shifted more to the right
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  Speaker 8: from twenty twenty to twenty twenty four than immigrant voters,
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  Speaker 8: and Donald Trump, at least in some surveys, actually won
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  Speaker 8: that vote. On average, it's about equal.
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  Speaker 2: So there may be all this.
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  Speaker 8: Stuff right about undocumented immigrants and Trump being harsh on them,
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  Speaker 8: but immigrant voters themselves have increasingly liked Donald Trump and
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  Speaker 8: have increasingly moved to the right on immigration.
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  Speaker 2: All right, thank you, Harry, You you can wrap that up.
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  Speaker 1: I do enjoy that each of these segments, there's always
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  Speaker 1: an attempt to be like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, surely there's bad news.
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  Speaker 1: Trump, and he keeps going through the numbers, and it
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  Speaker 1: fact is that the news isn't bad and it's not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, we don't.
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  Speaker 1: Always say that whatever's popular is right. But in this case,
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  Speaker 1: what happened is a bunch of communities have a assimilated, immigrated,
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  Speaker 1: and then related and then watched Biden let untold numbers
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  Speaker 1: right come across the border without vetting, without a system,
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  Speaker 1: ignoring our laws, and they got fed up.
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  Speaker 2: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Like you just you hit a tipping point where this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't cool with people anymore. And the Mexican immigrants and
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  Speaker 1: Latin American immigrants from two generations ago now look around
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  Speaker 1: and go like whoaa, whoa right, what's happening here with
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  Speaker 1: the wave in the Mexican flag and setting cup cars
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  Speaker 1: on fire.
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  Speaker 3: That's not totally that's not us, right. I look, I'm
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  Speaker 3: an immigrant. I feel this very strongly. I was always pretty,
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  Speaker 3: you know, hardcore on illegal immigration, but I've certainly become
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  Speaker 3: even more hardcore. I think that I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: think even just maybe a decade ago, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that I would have been like, oh, we should just
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  Speaker 3: be rounding people up.
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  Speaker 4: But it's gotten so bad that this is where we
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  Speaker 4: are now.
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  Speaker 3: And I also I find it very offensive when they
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  Speaker 3: intertwine illegal and legal immigration as if it's one thing.
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  Speaker 4: We're just not one thing. And I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I told a story on X but my
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  Speaker 3: mother's sister lived in Russia until her death.
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  Speaker 4: She was not allowed to come visit.
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  Speaker 3: She was not granted a tourist visa to come visit,
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  Speaker 3: because the assumption always was that she would probably stay
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  Speaker 3: because why why not you have a family, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: And she was already older, so she wouldn't be able
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  Speaker 3: to work and she'd be a drain on the system.
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  Speaker 3: We don't really know why, but this was the assumption.
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  Speaker 3: We followed all those rules, and my mom would like
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  Speaker 3: watch on TV the people streaming across the border.
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  Speaker 4: And she'd say, my sister can't come visit me for
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  Speaker 4: two weeks. And we followed those rules, and we followed
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  Speaker 4: the law.
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  Speaker 3: And it's galling when other people don't and they get
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  Speaker 3: away with it. And this is why I legal immigrants. Also,
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  Speaker 3: the whole come here, will give you a hotel room
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  Speaker 3: and a check and all the different things, like we
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  Speaker 3: had to promise somebody would take care of us.
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  Speaker 5: There was no come let us take care of you.
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  Speaker 4: It just doesn't exist, didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I just think you run into real The Trump administration
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  Speaker 1: can run into problems by overstepping right overplaying their hand.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he's spoiling for that fight he wants
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  Speaker 1: to do over twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: He's happy to do that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think you run into real problems with normies
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  Speaker 1: when it is so obvious that you value those who
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  Speaker 1: have broken those sas who have violated the system over
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  Speaker 1: those who haven't.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact, what you do is you soak the
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  Speaker 2: ones who follow the rules to serve the.
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  Speaker 1: Ones who do not, And that is what happens in
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  Speaker 1: all of these cities, and it's so depressing and so
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  Speaker 1: demoralizing as an actual citizen who's trying.
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  Speaker 2: To do the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if anybody's worried about us living in
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  Speaker 1: a fascist state, I do want to let you know
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  Speaker 1: that the tweeting menswear guy, oh yeah, who I actually
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  Speaker 1: started following back when he got promoted or whatever reason.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I ended up following.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed the takes. I was into it.
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  Speaker 1: He has a very specialized kind of knowledge. It's interesting,
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  Speaker 1: and he's gotten very big. And then he had to
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  Speaker 1: signal how lefty he was, so he just started like
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  Speaker 1: trashing right landing figures.
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  Speaker 2: Outfits and like whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a snowflake about it, but it's very obvious
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  Speaker 1: that he's only picking right laning people. And then he
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  Speaker 1: just decided during this week to say, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I'm an illegal immigrant. And he was brought here by
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: his family when he was very young. He did not
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  Speaker 1: really have a choice in this matter. Something that is
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  Speaker 1: like more sympathetic certainly than other stories, sure, but like
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  Speaker 1: the menswear guy is just going to tweet that he's
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  Speaker 1: here illegally and pretend we live in a fascist state. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but tweeting that he's here illegally just makes him probably
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  Speaker 1: more famous and more money on X.
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  Speaker 2: And you know the Vice PRIs.
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  Speaker 1: No, and like, look, if he gets deported, you straight
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  Speaker 1: up told everyone on the platform where the actual Homeland
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  Speaker 1: Security and Vice President hang out a lot, that you're
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  Speaker 1: here illegally. So like, that's well within what could happen
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  Speaker 1: to you. You have assumed their risk here. But I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of interesting that he's just still joking about stuff.
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  Speaker 1: He's trolling on the X about this very pertinent fact
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  Speaker 1: in our fascist state.
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  Speaker 3: Right, and if he does get kicked out, he has
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  Speaker 3: no one to blame but himself will be right back
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: on normally, speaking of crazy places that are doing crazy things,
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: New York City is going to have an election in
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  Speaker 3: just a few days. They're going to have a primary election,
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  Speaker 3: and traditionally, whoever wins the New York City mayoral Democratic
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: primary goes on to win the election.
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  Speaker 2: This is the one party rule situation, right.
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  Speaker 3: It may be a little bit different this time because
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  Speaker 3: the current mayor Eric Adams is running as an independent,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm not really sure how that's going to play
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  Speaker 3: into this. I mean, I've said openly if I were
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: still living in New York, I would be holding on
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  Speaker 3: to Eric Adams with both hands.
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  Speaker 1: He you know, it's like which is which is such
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: a testament to the others.
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: It's like vote for the criminal. It's important, truly.
• 17:19
  Speaker 8: But in.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: The top two.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Slots of the Democratic primary right now are former Governor
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Andrew Cuomo and Zorn Mamandi, who is a Democratic Socialist
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: and is running to the left of that. I would
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: say he's running as a full on communist and he
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: may win.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, it's scary when the clearly best
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: options for normal people are Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: And look, I don't want that guy to have a comeback.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: No, I know, I know.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: But what.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I'm dammy is like right out here saying I'm going
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to freeze rents. He has no authority to do so,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it would it would ruin so many things. It was
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: just like a middle schooler being like, I'll give you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: free treats from the vending machines, Like, no, you won't.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Right, He wants free buses, government run grocery stores, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: freezing the rent. I mean again, full on communist government
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: run grocery stores, Like I don't even think AOC would
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: be for that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: No, no, it's far out.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Somebody jokes that I think it was.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Ben Dreyfus pointed out that I'm sure they had decided
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: that AOC should endorse him, and when would she endorse him?
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And you got to make the most impact possible. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: it happened on the day that Elon and it was amazing.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: It really was, because it was like so like, will
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: she won't she? Will? She won't she?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: And she finally did it, and it's like did not
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: make the news at all?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, zero.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: So a lot of people hear his ideas and say
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: that's ridiculous.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Obviously someone like that can't win.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: But as I always like to say, it's very important
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: to remember that I will give you free stuff remains
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: a popular campaign tactic.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: And I'm worried.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know, some polls I've seen have him winning Brooklyn.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: It's definitely a concern.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: I hope Andrew Cuomo pulls it out in the Democratic primary.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: The problem is that Cuomo is still super unlikable. And
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you may remember that from twenty twenty and our friend
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Justin Robert Young of the amazing political show Politics, Politics, Politics,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: he points out on X that Mamandi is running a
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: very good campaign tactically, and Cuomo is acting like everyone
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: in New York City should be honored. He'd slum it
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: by running for mayor. So so yeah, that's how that's going.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Like Como wasn't showing up to mayoral forums. He was
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: really just acting as if like here I am, you
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: guys are so lucky to have me.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Yep, that might not work.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: It might not work.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It might not.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: And Zoron for his part, and I must say this
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: about every single one of the them that pops up Pep, Pete,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: boudhajeedge aoc him. If they can talk, they're a danger.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And this guy can talk. His ads are very good,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they're creative. He is an interesting speaker, and so that's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: always a challenge because he comes.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Off much more likable than quote like low bar.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: But it is amazing to me that both LA and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: New York right now in very different ways.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: New York electorally LA.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: In the streets, the lefty leaders are doing the things
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that the American people that the normies, even in their towns,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: left leaning towns.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Have told them they hate. They don't want chaos.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: They don't want chaos on behalf of illegal immigrants and criminals,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: convicted criminals.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: By the way, many of these people that are being
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: picked up.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: They don't like the far far left inability to govern
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: and deliver on services they do not want. That's why
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the ezra klines of the intellectual lefty world to trying
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to drag them back to the idea that they should
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: serve voters with an idea services, right, and they're just
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: like tripling down on all of it.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know how they don't know. I don't think
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: they know how to pivot at this point.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: Right, I kind of want to go back in time
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: and tell Carol and Mary Catherine of twenty twenty that
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: we'd be rooting for Andrew Pommo to.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Win, to win anything.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: Really, I'm so not a fan of Andrew CMO. This
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: is again why I would prefer Adams if I were
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: New Yorker.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Just so imprincible. I don't even care how bad Adams is.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I know, not this at all.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Exactly, And during the pandemic.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Clomo so openly hated New York City, and he was
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: just always so anti the city.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: But there's this whole subtext of.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: The mayor election where they get asked their bagel orders.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, this is great, tell me your bagel order.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm not a connoisseur, so I think, like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not the one to ask, So we're going to
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: go to you second after I get my trash order out.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: But I would just say I bagel orders bow Jangles.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: No, my my favorite.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: My preference would be a fresh, warm everything bagel with plane,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: cream cheese, right and possibly Lucks.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, my order is everything, bagel, cream, cheese, tomato.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: It's not crazy, it's not you know, anything fancy. The
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: thing is, when you're hearing the bagel orders in New York,
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: what New Yorkers are looking for is whether or not
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: you say toasted. If you say toasted, you're not from here.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: So this is still still a New Yorker somewhere at heart.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: But yeah, you're it's it's the if you're toasting, then
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: you're not going to a bagel shop that makes it fresh,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And then what are you doing?
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: You may as well have a supermarket based.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So this was new information to me because I have
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: never lived in a place with great bagels like New
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: York I did. We had a Burger's bagel, which is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: a chain, and I'm sure you workers would look down
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: upon it.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: However, they did have fresh bagels, which is why.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: That's all that matters.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I want the hot one, right right, but I will,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you know, toast one when I don't have that option.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But I believe let's see, it was Zorn's was toasted,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: correct that where he went?
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I had the brad Lander.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Our friend Eli Klein on X pointed out that brad
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Lander gave his bagel order as everything bagel, scallion cream, cheese,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: sliced tomato, and locks and again, it doesn't matter what
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you put on it, capers and blah blah blah, it
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter. But brad Lander then retweeted like somebody praising
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: his order and added lightly toasted.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: It's like he has no principles.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: This man stands for nothing.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Come on, right, it's it's it's just it's unacceptable.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, So yes, okay, let me let me just call
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: him out. Yeah, the socialist is for toasted, Okay, the order.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: As someone who grew up morning side heights, I have
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to go back to absolute bagels, poppy seed bagel, scallion
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: cream cheese, some pulp tropic canna on the side, And
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: this is going to lose me some votes.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But to be honest with you, toasted.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, unacceptable, just really really not acceptable. So Ben points
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: out that bagel shops bake their own bagels fresh, no
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: reason to toast a bagel, And then he says, no
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: one is saying you shouldn't toast your piece of shit,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: loser bagel that you bought from the supermarket and brought
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: back to your rat infested trailer.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I actually showed that to my daughter to.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: Be like, you know, toasting bagels is unacceptable, yes, behavior okay.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: He also made.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Fun of Zoran because he had the tropic canna on
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: the side. He was like, toasted poppy seed bagel with
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: a tropic canna on the side. Is he running to
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: be the mayor of Cincinnati Airport? Which it's pretty good, pretty.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Good, It's funny.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Do you remember notoriously Cynthia Nixon, the Sex and the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: City actress. She had some weird She was a gubernatorial
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: candidate and her bagel order was this is horrific.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: A cinnamon raisin bagel. Yeah, with locks and cabage.
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: How ow.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Like I'm for a sweet and savory in some capacities,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: but not in that one.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: No, No, that's super gross.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: That's anyway, best of luck to everyone. Yeah, I do
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: not understand if you can get one fresh and hot
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: right in New York?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Why are you? That doesn't make any sense. Why would
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: you coast?
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: It makes no sense. That's absolutely right.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You're not for my land of trash bagels? Like, do
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: it right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: We're going to take a short break and come right
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: back with normally.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: People have been having a good twenty four hours of
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: being nice and apologizing. Should we wrap up with something pleasure?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do some some apologies. The apology tour, the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: apology to very famous people.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It turns out that both Simone Biles and Elon Musk
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: have had a bit of a change of heart.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Simone Biles, her apology was very.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Scripted, conluted.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did not believe her, Like her post at
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Riley was on a Saturday night, and you know, I guess.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: A lot I and a lot of other people assumed
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: she had had a.
• 26:19
  Speaker 7: Couple of drinks aggressive, yes, yes, but this her apology
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: was just like the current system doesn't adequately balance these
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: important principles of you know, competitive equity and inclusivity, which often.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: Leads to frustration and heated exchanges. And it didn't help
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: for me to get personal with Riley, which I apologize
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: for it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: Just like just say, you're sorry, what is this? What
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: is this like the way that.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: I spoke, you know, it just it made no sense
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: And also it seems like forty eight hours after the thing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It was like in not probably not that quite that much,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: but it was the delay was large given how famous
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: she is and how quickly the news cycle moves. Nor
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you want to do a clean up like this pretty
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: quickly afterwards, so that would have probably helped.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: But I think.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: Kiley is so just what a great person accepted the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: apology said, you know, Simon is still the greatest gymnast
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: ever and accepts it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I don't accept it.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: I just I'm sorry.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I found the apology to be bake And I like,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: if Simone Biles is promoting something I'm not in that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: She she lost me.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm out on it too, Like she's she's without
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: dispute the goat when it comes to stymnastics. No one
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: can take that away from her. I'm not going to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: be particularly wooed anymore by any of her pitches.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's it for that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Elon Musk, However, his his his apology tweet was around
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: three in the morning, who.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: By the way, definitely does not have crisis pr That
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: guy no no.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Is helping him craft any of this, He tweets, I
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: regret some of my posts about President Donald Trump last week.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: They went too far.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Again, it's not an effusive apology, but I believe him.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: Again at three in the.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Morning apology that's not four hundred words, I feel like
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: he really means it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Will they be bros?
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: Again?
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not so sure.
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: For his part, Trump responded and as he has done
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: throughout this pretty in a pretty measured manner, right, he
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: said to He talked to New York Post and said,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was very nice that he did that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't fight like that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't say whether he was willing to let
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: bygones be bygones with Tesla and SpaceX and Muskin general.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But you know, like Trump is so such an interesting
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: character because sometimes you want to say like, oh yeah,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: like this guy's burned forever.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: There's no way you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Can come back from this with Trump. That's not It's
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: not often or even often how Trump operates like you
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: come and say the right thing, right, and he's gonna
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: be like okay, right.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: I can think of a lot of examples of that,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: including his vice president. J. D. Vance said some terrible
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: things about Donald Trump. Marco Rubio said some terrible things.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: He's golfed with Ron DeSantis.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I mean there he makes.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Up, he kisses and make up.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: But this one, I thought maybe not just because they
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: were really close, and I you know, it remains to
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: be seen. Maybe Trump really has mellowed and he can forgive.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: But it seemed like they were like friends, not just
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: It seems.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Like an affectionate relationship.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Trump was hanging out with his son, like with Elon's son,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: more than he was hanging out like with his own kids.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I hope that those two crazy kids find a way
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: to make it work.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: It was it was nice, nice when they were friends.
• 29:56
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• 30:00
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• 30:02
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• 30:05
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• 30:08
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