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Sheeraz Destroys Berlanga! Preview Usyk vs Dubois, Pac/Barrios, Fundora/Tszyu2! Weekend Recap! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Hey, what boxing fans, This is the Rope of Dope
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: radio podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We are
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: live once again on a Tuesday night. Can you believe it?
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk about, right, A lot
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  Speaker 1: of recap and a lot of preview, some debate, predictions,
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  Speaker 1: all that good stuff, you know. Unfortunately, Taylor Serrano the trilogy,
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  Speaker 1: although the crowd was they showed up, right, it was phenomenal.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: That crowd was crazy, right. The gate did very very
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  Speaker 1: well and the rating was very very very good. Right,
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  Speaker 1: But the fight, you know, it just wasn't that good.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Just wasn't that good, right. I really don't know what
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: Amanda and her trainer were thinking. To you, is that
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: game plan for basically the whole fight trying to outbox
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  Speaker 1: a boxer. That's kind of wild, But we will talk
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: about it. We'll talk a little bit about the undercard
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  Speaker 1: as well. We did have an upset, you know, it
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: looked like kind of showcase stuff on the undercard, but
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: we had an upset by Green beaten Marshall. And then
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: we almost had an upset Bomb Gardner was in a tough,
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: tough fight. Then we go over to the disowned pay
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  Speaker 1: per view card, and we'll talk about the four main
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: fights on the car to really like highly competitive fights.
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  Speaker 2: You know, with.
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  Speaker 1: Katayev and Morel could have went either way. Same with Mattias.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, a lot a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: asking for schrekor Stevenson to stand in the pocket in bang,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And that's exactly what he did.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he made some adjustments in the second half
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  Speaker 1: of the fight that maybe he would do a little earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a it was an entertaining fight and
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  Speaker 1: a great performance by chakor Stevenson. And then of course
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  Speaker 1: the main event, Chiraz in Berlanga. Now, I was not
• 2:30
  Speaker 1: high on Berlanga, as you know, and I got a
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  Speaker 1: variety of messages and also saw a bunch all week
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  Speaker 1: of people saying Berlanga is gonna knock out Charras, And
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I got messages saying that, saying I'm crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to big up Charaz, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just didn't. I don't know, I mean I even said it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm biased, you know, because I do think I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little biased, you know, for how much I just
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  Speaker 1: don't think Berlang is all that good at all. But
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  Speaker 1: I have to admit two things one, well three things. One,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think he'd knock him out that way that quick.
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  Speaker 1: You know, of course, with a knockout you never know
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  Speaker 1: the punch that changes or the series of punches that
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  Speaker 1: changes a fight. He can happen the first round, fifth round,
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  Speaker 1: eighth round, whatever, right, but I did I didn't think
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  Speaker 1: it would be that early, that's for sure too. I
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  Speaker 1: did lose the decision bet, right because I had Charaz
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  Speaker 1: by decision, but also as the week, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: Number three is I did win the ko bet though
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  Speaker 1: with Charas because I didn't have it bet the night
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  Speaker 1: of the show. But as the week went on, like
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  Speaker 1: I said, these messages and just seeing people downgrade Chiaz,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine as far as saying he's not top free
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  Speaker 1: in the at super middleweight or something like that, right,
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  Speaker 1: or the fact that he beat he lost the ottomus
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  Speaker 1: I beat him, he lost to him, should have lost
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  Speaker 1: that fight. But the more I thought about it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it got to the point where I'm like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that is a good point that it'll probably end in
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  Speaker 1: a stoppage. The more I thought about it, and so
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  Speaker 1: I ended up getting a plus plus number, So that
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  Speaker 1: was nice. Let's see, oh and then you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: just talk about a variety of other stuff. Of course,
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: Usik du bois to right coming up? Was that just
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  Speaker 1: a flash in the pan? Low blow that looked like
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: it was at least waistline. You could say it was low,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't that low. Will that play a part
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  Speaker 1: in this fight or will Usik continue to just do
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  Speaker 1: what he does? And beyond that point there wasn't a
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: ton of rounds you could give Daniel Dubois for being honest.
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  Speaker 1: Is USA gonna get it done? Manny Pacyao who returns
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  Speaker 1: for better or for worse, especially with such a long
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: layoff when you look at it, Yeah, Usik usk Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Ugas is what I meant to say. Is a much
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  Speaker 1: different fighter or higher level fighter too than Barrios. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to, you know, put him in the
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  Speaker 1: same sentence I kind of did. But you know, like
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  Speaker 1: how he looked in that fight. Shit, even the clips
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  Speaker 1: I saw in that exhibition, like he just looks so washed.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: However, the undercard Fundora Zoo pit Bull Fierro we also
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  Speaker 1: have Bam was a kafu and actually Pachecko and McCombe.
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of looking forward to that fight. Let's see
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: if mccomby can make Pacheco work for it. Obviously, having
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  Speaker 1: a pay per view during the day and then at
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  Speaker 1: night is ridiculous. Having three in a matter of seven
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: days of a week is ridiculous. If you back it
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  Speaker 1: up two more weeks, you know you're talking about four,
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  Speaker 1: but three in a matter of seven days in a week,
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  Speaker 1: basically from Saturday to Saturday. You know, it's fucking ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is we're at the halfway point
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  Speaker 1: basically of the year, and that we've already had that twice.
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  Speaker 1: We've already had that predicament twice because we had it
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  Speaker 1: back in late April in May. Now, you don't have
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: to buy all these pay per views, right of course,
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: no one's putting a gun to your head. And the
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: crazy thing about these pay per views, and we'll talk
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit about this because I did every time
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: I talk about this situation. I do get our scenario
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  Speaker 1: of too many pay per views just in general. But
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: if we're looking at what Turkey and Masaudi money has
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  Speaker 1: done one subscribers show otherwise they're all pay per view
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: and then he goes right around in four to eight
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: hours and he puts them online on YouTube. It's what's
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: the point of it? Then? Why have it on pay
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: per view of two days later? You're just gonna put
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: the shit on YouTube?
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 7:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, at the very minimum, just stream it on well,
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: you know, streaming on his own whatever, but streaming on
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: YouTube then. And I'm not saying all the fights. I
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  Speaker 3: get that some of them are going to be on
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  Speaker 3: pay per view, but.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine if you did a time buy that led to
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  Speaker 1: a even if it was a small, like it's just
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  Speaker 1: a decent you know, licensing fee, or just a small
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  Speaker 1: licensing fee with somebody like I said, or a time
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  Speaker 1: buy or whatever. It just this card was phenomenal, man,
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: it was phenomenal. And they've had great matchups. Yeah, they've
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: had some mediocres and bullshit ones, and obviously those back
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: to back cards really did suck, you know, in May garbage, right,
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  Speaker 1: But it's just crazy, dude, It's crazy that this could
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  Speaker 1: have been on. But we'll get into it. We'll get
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: into it also, Germonte Davis, Boil Boil Boy. We're not
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: gonna get too deep into the details because we don't
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: know everything right, And ever since I started doing a podcast, shit,
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: ever since I've basically in the two thousand ish, maybe
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: even late nineties, when where he's like this come up,
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: I just have so much experience of wait and see.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: And that's not to say sometimes it's not to say
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: that he didn't do anything right, or an athlete doesn't
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: do anything because they do right, or celebrity or whatever.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: A look at the Johnny Depp situation like it can
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: go either way, and honestly, sometimes it's way worse than
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: first reported and it could be way you know, So
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: we don't know, don't We don't know, but I will
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: talk minorly about it. Jake Paul is sniffing around on
• 9:38
  Speaker 1: two fights. One was AJ, one was body Jack, and
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: then some other interesting fights that are in TX or
• 9:47
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  Speaker 1: direct TV Strength. Anyway, What the hell? What in the
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: hell was Serrano in her corner? In general thinking and honestly,
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: as the fight was going on, you could see Amanda
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: sitting there in the corner, you know, between the breaks
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: of course, and it's almost like she had this, man,
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I hope this works. I really fucking hope this works,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and you know, for about whatever a few rounds,
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  Speaker 1: a handful of rounds until you maybe the first four
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't that bad. There were close rounds and all that,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, at some point you just saw Taylor
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: winning more rounds.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that it was just some runaway eight to two.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was. Two of the scorecards were
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: ninety seven three, one of them ninety five ninety five
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  Speaker 1: six' four is WHAT i actually had, it BECAUSE i
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  Speaker 1: do think there were some like in the second, round
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  Speaker 1: you Know serronto jabbing a nice early, left you, know
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  Speaker 1: a left hand a little later in that, round maybe
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  Speaker 1: one or two about two ish counters From taylor in that.
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  Speaker 1: Round in the third, round there was a few good,
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  Speaker 1: exchanges AND i just thought the counter punching was. There
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: the fourth round was really. Close serrano actually landed a
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  Speaker 1: counter right with the, jab few nice left hooks right,
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  Speaker 1: hand a few good lands. THERE i Gave serrano the
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: second and the. Fourth the seventh was another close one
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: that could have went either, way but just because it
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: was really. Slow the sixth ROUND i thought was really.
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  Speaker 1: Competitive there was a head clash in it was, close
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: but the pressure and the jabs came For. Serrano the
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  Speaker 1: combinations and more counters came from. Tailor LIKE i, said
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: the seventh was. CLOSE i did give the. EIGHTH i
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: thought the pressure and the better overall, shots although there
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: was a nice counter. LATE i thought that was Enough.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: Serrano but then you Know taylor with the just, landing
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: the left hooks and right hands were. Money and the
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: first round was just so damn.
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  Speaker 2: Slow you know WHAT i?
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  Speaker 1: Mean it, WAS i don't, know it was pretty. Slow
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: i'll just say. That i'll just say. That it just you,
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: know when you have, trilogies you're bound to have a
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  Speaker 1: very mediocre and that's probably putting it. Nicely you're bound
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  Speaker 1: to have a mediocre, fight. Right you just, are you just,
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  Speaker 1: Are and we got. It it was, boring it was.
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  Speaker 1: Slow obviously it had a lot to live up. To
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  Speaker 1: that Didn't that didn't help the. SITUATION i still think
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  Speaker 1: it should be one one one or something like, that you,
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  Speaker 1: know just BECAUSE i did Think taylor won this. Fight
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  Speaker 1: it's not like she looked, phenomenal, right they both look.
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  Speaker 1: Faded they both looked. Old But serrano AND i get.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: It you, know we can sit here and say all,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: day why the hell did you do that game? Plan
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: but you, Know serrano In taylor took a lot of
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: punishment in those two, fights And serrano's style has been that.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: WAY i JUST i can see revving, up you, know
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and then going. Off AND i, also you, know speaking
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  Speaker 1: of serrano game, PLAN i can see starting that way
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: and then you, know adding and adding and. Adding but
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about ten rounds and not twelve, rounds
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about two minutes and not three, minutes
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  Speaker 1: there's just not a whole lot of time for that
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: kind of game plan when that's not how you. FIGHT
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: i do, understand LIKE i, said the punishment that you've.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: TAKEN i also, understand like you, know you, THINKING i
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: can't stand too much in front of her for too
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  Speaker 1: long because you do get, countered, Right SO i get that,
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  Speaker 1: Part but it just had to be more like if
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna be Beat, taylor it had to
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: be more, now of, course, right Playing Devil's, Advocate, well
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  Speaker 1: she did land a lot more in the first two
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  Speaker 1: fights and threw a lot, more, right and Compy marx
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  Speaker 1: is not something to be one hundred percent trusted with the.
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  Speaker 1: Numbers so you, know did she really land that many
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: more punches in the second? Fight probably, not but you
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  Speaker 1: could clearly say see she was landing. More but so
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  Speaker 1: my point, is, well she could turn around in the,
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  Speaker 1: corner could turn around and, say, hey you could SAY
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: i shouldn't, have you, know fought that, style but look
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: where it got me in the first two. FIGHTS i
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: got two. L's SO i just, think if you're gonna
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: do that, style it has to at least be more in,
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: between you know WHAT i. Mean it could be a little.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Smarter you can get your punches, off you can take
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  Speaker 1: a step, back take a step to the, side, clinch
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: whatever you gotta. Do but you can't just try to
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: outbox the. Boxer the boxer who loves to outbox, people
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  Speaker 1: and who can you, know counter. Punch it just played
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  Speaker 1: right Into Katie, taylors right Into Katie taylor's. Hand so
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: that was kind of. Ridiculous you. Know it just, sucks you,
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  Speaker 1: Know but overall it was a great. Event as far
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  Speaker 1: as what it meant to women's, boxing the fact that
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: it was On, netflix, yes it does suck that it
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't more of a fun fight to. Watch as far
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  Speaker 1: as the reports we have right, now two point six
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  Speaker 1: million at the, GATE i think they said two point sixty.
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  Speaker 1: Three that's a, healthy healthy gate almost six million, worldwide
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: and they said, it you, know it topped four. Million
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  Speaker 1: it's a four point two live viewership. Number million viewership,
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  Speaker 1: numbers so that was Our even if it's only two
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  Speaker 1: or three, million that is a lot more than a
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: lot of things get. Nowadays as we, know ever since you,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: know boxing went off the, networks that type of viewership
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: is just not there now as far as being able
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: to watch, it not still the stream or.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Whatever so.
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  Speaker 1: You, know, overall there was an. UPSET i did Think Shadishah, green,
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  Speaker 1: Uh Shadeja, GREEN i MEAN i. DID i thought she
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: won the. FIGHT i know there was a split decision in,
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  Speaker 1: there BUT i thought she won the. Fight Savannah, MARSHALL
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  Speaker 1: i don't. Know it was a close. Fight i'm not saying,
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  Speaker 1: that but my scorecard read the. Upset Elie scottney won.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Cleanly she looked really good Against mercado Chantel cameron, Won ali.
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  Speaker 1: Won johnson was really you, know landing flush shots on
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: metcalf like her neck was snapping, back SO i thought
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: that was a good. Stoppage and Then miranda And Bomb,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Gardener Bomb. Gardener it just appears first of all two ninety,
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  Speaker 1: eight ninety two's is. Ridiculous but it just appears that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: she's looking for one shot at a. Time and when
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: we talk about the other, Card David morrell talking about
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  Speaker 1: game plan and not sticking to. It, OH i See,
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  Speaker 1: John Papaana poppy in.
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  Speaker 2: Its just sucking.
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  Speaker 1: Air, john you Know Bomb gardner's power ever since she got,
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  Speaker 1: busted isn't there as much as it. Was but also,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes let's say it's not even that. Right let's say
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you can fall in love with the power where
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  Speaker 1: you're just looking for one big shot and she was
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  Speaker 1: getting hit on the way. In she wasn't setting up
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  Speaker 1: her punches. Properly did she get to, win that's, Fine
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  Speaker 1: but you, Know, miranda she's she was. Tough she was very,
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  Speaker 1: tough and she she kept fighting. Back as soon as you, thought,
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  Speaker 1: man she might be in a little, trouble, boom she'd fight.
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  Speaker 1: Back and, then LIKE i, said she was catching her Stopping.
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  Speaker 1: Alicia i'm in their tracks at, times So i'm governering
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  Speaker 1: got the, win but she didn't look all that. Good
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and bring In john into the. Fold
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: he should be popping up here in just a. Second
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: let me put my stuff on as, well, Alrighty so
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: all in, all you, know it was probably Get john
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  Speaker 1: here in a. Second on one, hand it's a great
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  Speaker 1: night for women's boxing because of what it. Meant on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the other, hand you, know let's not even though some
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of the co features and the other card was better than.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Expected you, know you always get a bad, fight usually
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in a. Trilogy well we got, one you, know we got.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: One what's going? On? John are you?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: There?
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Buddy?
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, chris how are? You i'm. Here i'm just trying
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  Speaker 2: to Get, okay there we get there we. Go let
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: me see it's.
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  Speaker 1: All good if oh, yeah here we, go there we.
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  Speaker 2: GO i had a little uh double screen, there which
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: happened sometimes for a, MOMENT i.
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  Speaker 1: Like what's right behind your shoulder?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: There, yeah my mom picked that out for me years years. Ago.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Mom of, Course i'll tell you. That, Yeah dad would
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: do a lot of, those but, mom uh picked that one.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: OUT i still remember her describing when she got it
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: for me for a. Gift had the bottom description on,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it and she was figuring out if she was going
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to have it edited to just have the reprint without the,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: description and that's what she went. With but, yeah it
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was The dempsey fur po about the painting from The
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: dempsey fur po ABOUT i remember that that's from that
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: one famous.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Painting So i've definitely seen that, image that is for. Sure,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: yeah that's. Dope SO i was just kind of getting
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: into the week In RecA app obviously there's a lot of, it, Right.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's the and that's the one. POSITIVE i, mean
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: we had a lot of, action you, know so to,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: speak not meaning every fight was, action but in terms
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of you, know the sport had had some, activity but
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: nothing really compelling at least this, weekend this past weekend
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and the weekend coming. Up there there was a quantity
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of more compelling.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Stuff, yeah and that funny, enough the undercard of The
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: friday night show was better than, expected some of it. Anyway,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: yes i'd say of two of the fights and then
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know the main. Event the thing you AND i
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: know about, trilogies right and or more, right and there
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: tends to be a stinker in. There there tends to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: be a mediocre, fight, Right AND i have to ADMIT
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: i didn't mention it last, week but that fact does
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: remain that you don't even Ward gotti and all, that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you tend to get like the fury And. Wilder the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: second fight was pretty one, sided, right so we just
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: got but at least you, had, like you, know some
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: big shots and you, know people getting knocked around the.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Ring we got ourselves just a mediocre type fight compared you,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: know the bar was super high obviously from the first two.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Fights so on one, hand it's great because you, know
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: we got a little viewership. Numbers we know that the
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: gate was gonna be, healthy and it, was and so
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it's like there's a lot of. Positives but, obviously, uh you,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: know that's. Boxing sometimes you just you don't get everything
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you want in, dessert you know WHAT i? Mean, Definitely
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: but what do you think? There because you, know obviously
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the game plan was just wild From, serrano especially when
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: we're talking two minute rounds and ten rounds not. Twelve
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that's a big risk to take against the boxer who
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: wants you to do. That but what are your thoughts?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Overall we could talk, about you, know whatever you want
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: on the undercard as, well but let's start at the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: top of the top of the.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Shelf, YEAH i would say with it maybe the one
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: THING i didn't account for and taking all the fights
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: of the, weekend it felt pretty good about HOW i
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: was looking at him playing. OUT i didn't agree. NECESSARILY
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: i could see how the judges had it the way
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: they did And Tailor, serrano but that wasn't really exactly
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the WAY i was looking at. It so you, Know
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: i'm more in the minority on this, one but not.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: ALONE i, MEAN i felt, like even With serrano blowing
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: it in the last two, rounds that you could have
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: made a case that it was still. Rounds wasn't much
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: happening in the, rounds And that's Where i'm coming, from
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: right like six,' FOUR but i have to be. Completely,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: fair certainly it was the type of, fight THAT like i,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: always SAY and i felt it applied to, this one
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: like if you're not going to just alternate, rounds, saying well,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: YOU know i think this, Fight's closed i'm going to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: kind of give this close Round, to tailor give this Run.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: TO serrno, I mean i could see how you got
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: the ninety seven. Ninety THREE like i do Agree That
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: steve weisfeld is arguably the best judge, out there and
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you know he had It for taylor ninety seven. NINETY
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: three i could see how you could do it with
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: those rounds where nothing, was happening, you know if you
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: gave all Those, to taylor which you could because there wasn't,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: much happening but you could also to me give Him.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: To SERRANO BUT i i am pushing back on the,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you know tailor. Master, class yeah, decisive Win and I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: not i'm not. Going there that's that's NOT what. I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: saw i think if there was one thing in, THAT
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: one i felt LIKE maybe i, got wrong it was,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: just that, You know serrano's thirty, six too, you know
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: like she's not. Twenty six, so yeah she was the, younger,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: fighter right three years, younger fight, you, know right but three,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: years younger but you know she's thirty six. As well
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and like you said about sometimes in trilogies and even it,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: rematches it it's not something you could say. Always happens
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: but and this was kind of one, of those, you
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: know you have the first and maybe in, a trilogy
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the first. Two fights it's. Really intense both fighters take
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: a lot, of punishment put a lot, into IT and
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: i kind of go To, THAT teddy i do have
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: to go there with the little bit Of The teddy
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: atlas unspoken agreement kind. Of thing, you know you can't
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: question the hearts of. Either fighters you know what they've
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: done in the first, two bouts but they've taken a
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: lot out of, each other and it's kind, of like,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you know we're we're and this was one of those, to,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: me like, you know we're not going to. Do that,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: you know we're not going to do that. This time
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and after a few rounds you could see it was
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: developing into one of those what was inexplicable to me Though,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: for sarano but even it was in a sense consistent
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: with the first. Two FIGHTS and i did say that going,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: in that, you know the one weakness to, me was,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: You know sorrano the gas tank and you know she
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: she just gave away the last two rounds in. THIS one,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: i mean unless she just couldn't, do more but her
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: corner was telling, HER not, i mean just giving her
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: insane advice going into, the tent saying you've, got this
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: don't don't. DO anything, i mean that. WAS whacked, i
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: mean that was just terrible, and whacked and she gave
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and she lost the round, Before that so it wasn't
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: even like the first FIGHT where i, feel that, you
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: know she let tailor back into it but then turned
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: it on in the TENTH AND i i thought she clearly.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Took it even though the judges all Want with taylor
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: in the, first fight here there was Nothing from serrano in.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: The tenth there Wasn't that taylor was doing anything dramatic
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: even in, the Ninth but sarana was. DOING nothing, i
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: thought even though it was a really bad look later in,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: THE fight i thought it was overrated by the people that,
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to me were putting a little too Much on taylor's
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: performance where, they, said oh, You know sarana was punching.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: That air she did do that late in, the fight
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: which again was inexplicable and looked, really bad but it
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: wasn't something that was going on like through the full.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Ten rounds, to me like she did she show a
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: lack of aggression where she should have been. More, AGGRESSIVE yes,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: i mean don't get, me wrong but the punch in that,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: air thing her overdoing it that much. Was late it
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: wasn't like through the full ten, rounds now she was
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: not as aggressive as she should have because she's clearly the,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: harder puncher and you could still eat and see that in.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: THIS fight i mean there was one time a little
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: bit later before she gave away the last two rounds
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: that she landed a good shot seemed To get. Taylor's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: ATTENTION but i have to even say on replay it
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: wasn't quite as good of a SHOT as i thought,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: it was but it looked it looked in live action
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: like a real. Good, shot so, you know, And look
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I've Liked. KATIE taylor i still. LIKE her i just, you,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: know thought, you, know really, to me in all three of,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: these fights you could have given Them. To serrano and,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: YOU know I thought taylor did a great job in
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: the camera, and rematch, you know completely turning. Things around that,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Was fantastic and a lot of people criticized her. IN
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: that i believe it was that pursuing fight thinking. SHE
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: lost i didn't think she. Lost THAT so i just
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: want to make, it CLEAR like i Like Tailor, katie
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: taylor what she's done for, the sport like where she
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: carries herself. ON everything i just didn't, think that, you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: you know she had the performances in these fights that
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: a lot of people thought. She did the, FIRST fight
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: i thought she totally came on after being in, bad
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: trouble no doubt. About THAT but i just didn't think
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: she won the tenth and that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Was ENOUGH and i wasn't back and watched that. Tenth,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: round uh, you know just because you mentioned it again
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and you're, Right on you're totally. Right on she. Won
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that serrano won.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: That ROUND and i think that's what's really missed about that,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: first fight because you know that Rally. BY taylor I
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: gave taylor all those rounds in the first fight going
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: up to that. Point too but it's like, you said
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the judges got caught up in the, psychological bit oh want.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: To comeback she didn't win that. TENTH round, I mean
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: sorano then was, holding back, holding back made sure she
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: won the tenth and then three judges are giving It.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: To tailor you know that was, you know that was a.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Head scratcher and the, second fight a lot, of people,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: you Know thought, serrano won but, you know it wasn't
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: wasn't a. Great fight certainly wasn't a great Performance, By
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: SORANO but i don't think it was a great Performance by,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Taylor either and there were people that. Said that, to
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: me the netflix was the strength, of it, YOU know
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: i Like, ANDRE ward, I mean estrada, was okay it
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't that it was like a great commentary though. Or
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: ANYTHING but i was thinking what other people, put up
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and for me it really played OUT because i had
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Just Added netflix PREMIUM and i, concur that like, YOU
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: know i was having trouble put a finger, on IT
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: but i concur with what a lot of people, were posting,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you know after late and after, the fight like it just.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Looked good, you know something about it looked. REALLY good
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: i couldn't even even now can't say exactly what, it
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: was but it. Looked good it looked more like a.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Big event whatever they were doing with, the visuals it was.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: REALLY good, i mean and, you know, some again like,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: we said, some credits some Credit To jake paula that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: he's not doing bad as. A promoter so that. Was
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: great and you know THAT'S what i was really cared
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: a lot about for, this event is, you know we
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: need Boxing, on netflix and it's gonna fit with what
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: we're talking about last weekend and then this weekend they're,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you know really some credible writers Left Like matthew Aguilar And.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Cliff rolled we're talking over the weekend like you just
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: and you've been, Saying, it CHRIS and i. TOTALLY agree,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: i say, it too but you've really been saying it
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: like you can't have all these pay. PER views, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Mean Turkey ala sheikh's missing the boat, on this like
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: he's making matchups better than we. Were getting but with
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the diminished part of, the sport they're not that great
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: because there's not as that. Much left but then their
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: pay per view and they're going invisible IN, The us
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: so what's. The MATTER but i don't want to divert
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: too much where we're So On, friday NIGHT but i
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: think it ties In because netflix is the antidote. TO that,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: I mean netflix is basically like what YOU and i, are, saying,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: like look this is what's got to. BE done, i
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: mean you've got to be out there where people can see.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: This Stuff And friday night. WAS that i mean it
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: might not have been a great, main event but like,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: you said we got some better stuff on the under
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: card and we probably had the right. To expect so
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: main event. NOT great i.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Think crowd great job by highlighting, the crowd and, you're
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: right there was just a professionalism to it and it,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: felt big, you know and not just because of, the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: crowd like, you said. It was it was, well broadcast
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: no doubt. About it it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Was and the gardens a great setting for that because
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: that's really historic. For boxing now what they Completely BLEW
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and i think this Is Where, jake paul like like
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: being a novice even following, THE sport, i think actually
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: this is where you see this IS that, I mean,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: i know we. Get it in Fairness To. Jake paul
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: all the other promotions, do, this OKAY but I Think
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: jake paul my senses and the guy that he does,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: it with you know who was a High profile friday
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: night like thinks this is just the way you do it,
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: in boxing like this, This insane like there's eighteen world title,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you know eighteen belts on the line in.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: This car that's a record twenty one or something.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Like, that yeah and then they say and then, they,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: SAID like i mean this is bad because like, to
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: me this is, where boxing baseball and really, you, know
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: soccer you know Football in europe are linked like now
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: and this is where boxing has, an edge but. They're
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: linked like the history of the sports is all, really
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: important especially in like soccer slash football and baseball because
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: fly comes soccer right, quite frankly it's not, that exciting
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like like the, sports itself like in the, modern world,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: like baseball and Even though i'm a fan of, this
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: stuff but, like, baseball, soccer football, you know the game
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: itself not all, that thrilling but it's the history and what. It.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Means now boxing has an advantage where, you know when
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: you have a great fight in, the ring it's it's
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: arguably more exciting than. Any sport but it's been around.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: So long the history. Is important and when you this
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: crap like the eighteen, you know belts on the, line
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: tonight it's a Record and i'm doing this off the
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: top of my head without, replaying IT but I think
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: i heard, This RIGHT like i just chuckled as, a historian,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: THEY said i guess they were Referring, to serrano like
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: she's The First puerto rican undisputed, Champion ever like You
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Had carlos ortiz an all time.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Great when nobody give, to it if you're going to, say,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: that yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: When nobody gave a shit about these alphabet belts, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: everything proving myself so, much so like, you know he
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: he was a one, forty champ didn't care, about that
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and then made sure you know he was a, you
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: know the The lightweight champ and you know that that's where,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: you know he really made, his mark and like, you
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Know and i'm Hearing like carlos like So Like carlos
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: ortiz wasn't like. The chance it's like what are we talking?
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: About here like and SO when i Pointed out Jake,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: paul is that's REALLY what I think i am seeing
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: and the guy he does it with like they're so
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: new to it that like.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: That it doesn't make sense that they. Do that, You, know.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah they hear this stuff now and, they, think oh
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: that's just the way you. Do it And like i'm
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: the first to say all the other promotions are. Doing
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: It but, i'm, like guy you're coming in. Something different
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: you Got the, Netflix, deal like don't do what all
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: these other idiots. Are doing eighteen eighteen world, title belts
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: it's a record and just making up all this nonsense
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: like kind of like you could be better. Than that You're,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: On netflix You're In Madison square guard and just go on.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: The history stop all the. Alphabet nonsense, you know learn the.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Real history and you know there's people you could hire to.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Do that they had a cast of thousands. On, there anyway,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you know why not have a real historian who doesn't
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: talk about the alphabet nonsense and put it. IN context,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: i mean that's basically an. Information expert so that was
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: my main criticism of. The broadcast but but it looked
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: really good and had a really, big Feel and i'm
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: just ecstatic it Was. On netflix so we have to.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: HAVE IT i i just it's it's. THAT bad, i
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: mean we just have to. Have it nobody's, you know
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna keep paying for these pay, per views and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and anybody that does is. Just hardcores it's not.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Going, Anywhere yeah and and then if you're gonna bring
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: up any kind of undisputed or sanctioning, belt stuff you
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: got to add the context to. It too now it's
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: great if you have four belts for, One, fight, Okay
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: fine but we know in the women's side, of it
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: with the depth and everything, like that clearly it's not
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: always the same level of, you know like it does
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: kind of just there's sometimes there's a couple of vacant
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: belts in, there sometimes. You know so it's it's not
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: taking away. From, anything no it's not taking away from,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you know right in the fight really should be what
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: we're talking, about.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Anyway exactly it's it's where. You start you're not focusing on.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: The exactly you're not focusing on the fight enough either
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: when you keep doing that crap, like exactly like you
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: know people are here Just For taylor. SERRANO three i
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: mean you had the rarer instance where casual saw it
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: with On The tyson. Paul undercard so like, THEY don't
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: i mean, you don't you don't. Need to they're just
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: here to watch, this trilogy, you know the third fight of.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: This trilogy so, you know DON'T don't, i mean don't
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: add to. The confusion and just like so then if
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: you are, a casual, you're saying what's? What seventeen what
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: are they? Talking, about yeah seventeen world? Title Belts and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: i'm supposed to care. About that how could ever be
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: seventeen world? Title?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Belts yeah it actually makes, It worse it makes.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Sound worse you delude.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: It in my, calculations here you, delude it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Like what they could really? Just say and and, YOU
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: know i keep giving CREDIT because pbc did this their,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: FIRST year hbo tried it for. A while it still
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: is to me the way, to go even though it's,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: been abandoned because you just stay out of bed with,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: the alphabets which, is look just Go Into tailor serrano three,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: and say everybody knows this is for the one hundred
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: And Forty yes women's Pound him ship Of. THE world,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I mean i don't even think you need all these,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: junior classes but give them that if you want to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: just say that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: And just leave it at. THAT period, i mean you
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: don't need any of this.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: OTHER stuff.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I agree, i agree So. Bomb gardener, you know she
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: just didn't look all that good in. THIS fight i
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: don't want to take credit Away from MIRANDA because i
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: thought she, fought hard she took, good punches and then
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: she returned plenty of punches And caught alicia. Coming in,
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: you know is it just fundamentally not setting up, her
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: punches looking for one big punch to? Hurt? Her well what?
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Is it because she she should have won this. Fight,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: cleaner uh but she you KNOW the I hate i'm
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: not taking any credit away from her OPPONENT because i
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: thought she fought, really well but it just seemed like
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: she was just focused on landing one big punch. OR
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: something i, Don't know.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah that's. That's HER it's i think it's. Two
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: things if You watch. Bumgardner's fights she has much more
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: pop than most of the women in the, women's game
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and she she does not. Throw enough even in her,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: better performances she doesn't, you know she doesn't. THROW enough
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: i mean even her skills are pretty good or are,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: good too but she just doesn't. THROW enough i think
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: she does get enamored with her power and she doesn't
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't turn up the. Volume enough so you, had that
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: We've seen, her too so maybe there's some worry.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: About, that yeah and then another criticism of. The broadcast
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: they just completely IGNORED her, pd, issues right and which
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: you know you have that should have been raised with
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: this PERFORMANCE because, i agree, You know, miranda tried but
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: she's and she held her own BETTER and, i EXPECTED
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: but i mean she has. ONE ko i mean even
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: when game she started boxing when she was like what,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: twenty five and she's in her. LATE thirties, I mean
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: bumgarner does have pomp and. Some skills, you know IF
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the pds were not, A factor, i mean you would
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: think she should be taking her out, pretty, Bad right
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: but that, didn't happen and YOU and i. Called it
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: we we kind of thought the elements of this fight
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: not being good, Were THERE and, I see i thought
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: we kind of got. That, right like, You know i'm
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: not saying We thought miranda would hold her own maybe
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: as good as, she did but but YOU and i
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: had just had reservations about this fight and where they
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: put it on, the CARD and i felt like we got.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: That Right that THAT'S what i was. Thinking THERE.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: And I thought scottney looked. Pretty good she did look.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Pretty good she. LOOKED good i.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Like her THAT was, i mean that was a quality
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: fight or fight like, You. Know marcona two, solid Fighters
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and scottney did. IMPRESS me i mean that was a
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: that was a really because it was a competent opponent
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and she, looked, Good right so that was separating like, you're,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like hey you know she and she's FIGHTING. The us
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: you know she's Not. An american no, good performance really. Good, performance,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: We know the names. Were there like, we said we
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: had the Upset.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: With green green performed. Really well that was a Great,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Upset Patterson new jersey in. The house that's my home
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: County In. New jersey and she. WAS impressive i MEAN
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: she i wasn't expecting because, YOU know, I mean. MARSHALL'S tough,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I mean marshall, is yeah, you know she's.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Strong odds but it still was like a plus, four,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: something right and.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: She brings some pop and she's strong AND just I
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: mean I thought green did, do experience, you, KNOW yeah
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I thought green did. Do enough it was just that
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: was a really really good performance and you could see
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the crowd really connecting, with her and you know she's from,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: right there right across. The river that worked out. REALLY
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: good i mean that's where. They got like, we said,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: you know they they kind of throw darts when they
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: set up an undercard like that and hope they. Get
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: something that's what they got there was they got a
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Surprise from green and you know that kind of Even
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: though scottney looked, really good you know that kind of
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: that kind of saved. The undercard, You Know green green
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: fighting went really well like that and pulling out that upset.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Definitely definitely so Heading into saturday and we'll we'll go
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: through the fights and then we'll we'll get a little
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: rant UP because i, you know we talked about and
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: we've talked, about it like you just mentioned about the
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: pay per views and, all that and we do realize
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: that you're going to have some pay. Per views, you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: know we get, that part we get, that part but
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: when you have fights like this and cards like this with,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: entertainment galore and it really was, a fun. Entertaining card
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: if you had it off pay, per view you know
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: it would it would. Go further but let's talk about
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: the fights first and then we'll, you know parlay it.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Into It So, CHARAZ berlanga i didn't think it would
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: go down. That quickly. YOU know i wasn't too Kind
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: of berlanga on, the show BUT as i got a
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: bunch of messages for. That Too but berlanga, was like
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: all of, a sudden A ko like a ko, was,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: like uh smaller odds than it Was, for sharaz. You
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: know and by the end of, THE week i, Was
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: like i'm put Money ON sharra's ko, as WELL because
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: i had money on. The, decision yeah but that shark
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was a. Good, Play yeah but, YOU know i kind
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: of got tocked into IT because i got people were going,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: against me, you know in, the messages AND then i
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Kept seeing berlanga is gonna Win. By ko, he said you,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: know what, Screw this i'm gonna, double down, You know
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: but let's talk, about, it Man because sharra's like the jab.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Was going it could have pumped a little, bit more,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: but honestly he kind of looked like what we thought
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: he'd looked like a couple of, fights ago, you know
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: like he and he pushed. Him back, You know berlanga
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: really couldn't. Do much he landed the jab from time,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to time a little overhand shots. Or whatever but once
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that upper cup came, INTO play i, was like, oh
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: boy but, the hooks the, combination hooks he got them out.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Of there what are your thoughts, On, This john because
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: now on the, same thing we can't go too Far with,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: charraz either because Who? Is berloga, you know so it's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: kind of like jack people went too Far with sharaz
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: because he looked like Shit. Against, atamas sure but then
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you don't want to swing it too far the other.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Way either what are? Your thoughts because he freaking impressed
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: me the way he did what.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: HE did I think i think now we are getting
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to read on, him though because there is kind of
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: a consistency which is this and it's to, his credit
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: but because these are not like bombs for lack of a,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: better word or, you know cab. Drivers AROUND it's i
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: mean these are like like you, look here HERE'S what
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: i got. In mine you Take Like liam williams who he,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Blew Away ammo williams who he took care of late
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: but blasted them, out late And. Now berlanga these are
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: all you know in a world of seventeen, weight classes
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: which is. Too many but these these are guys who
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: are like legit fringe top. Ten level like they're not
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: they're not out of the, top ten but they're fringe top.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Ten Guys and charaz looks spectacular blowing. Them away not everybody,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: does that so that's a. GOOD thing i think what
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: we got out Of A damas and probably my guess
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: holds Because the damas, is good but he's. Not great is?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: This right it's probably not a. ONE stumble i think
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: it's probably, more like you, know something something might be Missing.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: With charaz and it doesn't mean he's not going to
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: maybe threaten to beat somebody, like that but where if
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: he's fighting that the top part of the legit, top
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: ten that that blowing people away is not going, to
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: happen Right that it doesn't mean there's not some, power
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: there but that's That now i'm getting a little. More
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: read i'm thinking that's what we might be. Seeing here
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: and you know you were Hard, on berlanga but you're,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: absolutely right we saw. It again i'm looking at. HIS record,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: i mean YOU know i couldn't go. Pick him and
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: then YOU know i did straight OUT say i Felt
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: like shiraz has, more talent but YOU know i didn't
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: feel comfortable to saying he's gonna blow. HIM away i
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: did say it was within the realms. Of possibility but
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and same.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: WITH me I mean i had money and, the DECISION
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: so i can't ACT like i had IT before i
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: had the KL so i can't ACT like i thought
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: he was gonna blow. Him, Away right but, You.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Know berlanga is Just not berlanga is just not. Very
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: talented he's not. That, good sorry, Not sorry and his
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: pop's okay against upper. Level guys it's not even a.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Big puncher it's not, feather fisted but it's not even a.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Big Puncher so i'm saying something that is, half serious
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: but it literally is. HALF serious i would not get
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: all shocked If If jake paul was looking at debt
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: really carefully And now berlanga is saying you wanted. To, continue, yeah,
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: like hey if there's some guy who's got, a name
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: who's been seen by some People That jake paul could,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: look At say i'll have this guy move up. THE cruiserweight,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: i mean as pathetic as, it is it's, TRUE though
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: i might just catch this guy with the right hand
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: and TAKE about, i mean, because look it's not trying
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: to just pile on, the, guy right but it's just
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: but it's just. A FACT like i Was hoping berlanga
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: was going to say that's it, after this AND then
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: i would look at, it, like look he Got a canelo,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: pay day, you know just a headliner. On this he
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: exposure right. Over exactly you can look at a positive,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: like that like the. Over chief and THAT'S why i
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: would look at it LIKE if i, were him like
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: it's been a. Good run he's still not an old
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: man or anything. Like that, you know keep your faculties
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: relatively intact and just say. That's it it's been a.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: GOOD run i got MORE than i ever expected out.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: Of it. That's it but he's Already Posting i'm i'm
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: going On and i'm Thinking like I'm and I'M like,
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: i said, Half SERIOUS but i literally am. Half SERIOUS
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: like I Think jake paul is probably looking at that, and,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: thinking man this this could be the next guy on my.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: HIT list, i mean this guy's going. To continue he just.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: Took him he just took a. BRUTAL ko i could
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: have him move up to, you know one ninety or
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: whatever so he could.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: Sign, him, yeah right you could just.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Sign it and, you know it's crazy that the guy he's.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Just building tune him up a little bit on your,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: under card even.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: If people know he's not. That great he's built himself
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: into a big name where the sport is, at now
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: like it, or, Not, RIGHT so, i mean that's that's crossed.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: MY mind i thought the guy. Should retire but if he's,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: NOT gonna I mean i Could See jake, paul, saying
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: no this guy's on my. Hit list he does probably
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: try to figure out if he's if, there is if
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: the danger is, low enough which it probably it. PROBABLY
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: is i hate to, say It but i'm not saying
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: it's Like an it.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Can be he had sixteen first, round knockouts.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Right and people saw HIM. On espn there's always a
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: value in. That, happen now He. Fought canelo people, see that,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: you know more people see that than. Other fights, SO
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: yeah i mean that. Did, good yeah so You, know
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: shirazo he took care. Of business that's what you want.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: To do so do you. See him let's get him
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: in with another top five or with a. Top five
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: i'm not gonna Put per lang in the, top five
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: but with a top five one sixty eight Pounder or
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: my guess is they're just going to go Right to
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: canelo if They if Canelo, Beats cowford THAT'S what.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I figure Is that turkey how she is not going
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: To be he's willing to over you to just have
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: him In. With canelo but, You know sharaz does, have
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: POWER so. I don't i don't know If If, i'm
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: canelo even with the kind of money he could GET
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: at i don't KNOW if i would take that at,
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: THAT point i. Probably wouldn't i'd probably, you know do
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: do maybe an easier big, pay day.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: He said which are talking about next year because of
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: course he's got a four, fight, Deal right he's already
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: had one. Of them we know his. Second one so if,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: he wins well he's gonna fight. Either way probably if
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: he loses, or wins there'll be a rematch, Obviously probably
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: But is sharaz Because remember jerky said he had big plans,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: for him he doesn't want them, to lose and then You, bank,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: JUNIOR right i didn't hear that in twenty Twenty Six fu, canelo.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Right, right well That's why i've Suggested that i've Suggested
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: The jake paul, for him because if he's gonna do
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: stuff like, THAT anyway, i mean let's just, you know
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Have The jake paul.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Cash, out yeah killed two birds with, one, stone.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah and get casual viewers to. SEE it I mean
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: i still, want it you, KNOW him, i say, You
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: know paul cash it Out against usik if he Wins.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: OR canelo, i mean If, Du blo we'll get to.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: That later But if bloh pulls, THE upset, I Mean
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: jake paul's not going to get in. With, him no
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: that's not going.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: To happen so so Let's take canelo out of one.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Sixty eight You think sharas could be the bust one
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: sixty eight pounder or, right there he's neck neck, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: Neck assuming adomas doesn't go up to one.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Sixty, EIGHT yeah, i mean divisions looking weaker and. Weaker
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: lately it's not out of. The question and that you
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: did Remind me chris of SOMETHING else i want. TO
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: say i say it all, the TIME but i FEEL
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: like i have to say it every TIME until i
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: feel like enough people are. Getting, It obviously sharaz had
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: no adjustment to. The weight uh he knocked for lying.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Out easily we don't need a one. Sixty eight, you
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: know they created it in the, late eighties the, alphabet
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: like we don't need a one. Sixty eight so you
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: know how many times you have to see stuff. Like
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: this there was no adjustment to, THE weight, i mean
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: not even. A little it made, no difference. No problem
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Knocking out berlanga had nothing to Do with berlanga being
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: eight pounds north to where, he was and he's coming
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: off a bad performance that, you know middleweight Against. The
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: damas so, you know you just don't need all these.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Weight divisions it's it's another one of the. Big problems
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and that's the thing with all these water down. Weight divisions,
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: YOU'RE right i mean one sixty eight kind, of lately
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: when you really look at, what's there it's not looking.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: That great matter, of fact in the, transnational rankings they
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Were suggesting charaz enter, at TEN and i had a
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: lot of agreement. WITH it, i, said, like look look,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: who's there you got to enter them at least. AT six,
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: i mean, YOU know i MEAN because i thought, to
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: Myself like plant hasn't done anything that. GREAT lately, i
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: mean you know it' fight yeah some of these. Other,
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: guys Yeah if charlo is going to, be there that
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: would be a really that would be a real good
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: FIGHT because i like that.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: Style, matchup, yeah.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah exactly matter, of fact it's a great Suggestion since
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: turkey howsh she just makes fights like that would be
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: a that would Be one i'd like, to. SEE mate
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: i love that, style matchup.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: A throwback battle of The Jab, john yeah.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Like like, big big like like big. Tallish, punchers yeah
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: you know who. HAVE power i mean that would be an. Explosive,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: matchup yeah that would really that would be a. Great one,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: BUT yeah i think he wants him To. Get canelo,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: but yeah with, WHO'S there, i mean.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: So we got to Hope. For crawford So, If crawford
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: crawford can stop, the madness if he Just, Beats canelo.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: Well that's the ONE thing i, have trouble like Figuring
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: if crawford does pull, it well then then you're probably getting. Into,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: remis yeah, because like, LIKE what i haven't thinking that
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: because the odds are so much CLOSER than. I expected
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Like if crawford pulls the upset where he's not that
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: big of a DOG like i thought he would be
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: in terms, of underdog like who does? He fight who does?
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: He fight?
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: AFTER that, i mean probably just gonna Compel a? Canelo, rematch,
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: All Right Chakor Stevenson. Williams zapata first part of, The
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: fight schakor was doing his best to try To Emulate
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: floyd mayweather on the ropes with the south paw. Shoulder
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: roll wasn't going great because he was going to hit,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: a lot, you know but he did make. An adjustment first,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: of all he punched his way off the ropes plenty
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: of times at, times here and there was at least
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: stopping him in his tracks or even backing. Him up
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: he wasn't. Going anywhere and then in the second when
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: he got more of his jab and he started just
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: throwing more rather than sitting on, the ropes then it,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: was like, oh wow that's a nice. Left hook oh
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: that's a big. Right hand it was one of those
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: those are clean shots and he's standing right there and
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: then his defense looked. Really good what are your thoughts
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: on this because a lot of people wanted To, see stevenson,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: you know sit, down right, you know have a have
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: more than just a cup of tea in. The pocket
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and he had, an appetizer he had the, main course
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: he got, a little he didn't get quite all the way.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: To dessert but what'd? You, think well one.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Thing that, you know made at least some of that
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: interesting Was where stevenson's kind of getting a. Bad RAP
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: and i said about this other guys, that box you
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: have to look at what the style Is, like stevenson he's,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: he yes he's been in some really. Bad fights but
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: they were saying like runner and like, you said you Know,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: in turkey as she's Talking about Tom and jerry fights
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: and Stuff like stevenson's yeah, to Me like i've always
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: said This about, Uhsik too like, you Know like stevenson's not. A,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Runner now usik's never had the problem. With volume he's.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: High Volume like stevenson's problem is not throwing like like but,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: you know people were, talking, like oh is he just.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: Gonna run, i'm, thinking, like well he. Doesn't run there
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: are guys that do that drive, me crazy or, you
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Know even bivol with that in and out, to me
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: which is just A variation. I'm, RUNNING really, i mean,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: you know at least there's an activity, with, It right And
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: then skull wasn't the?
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Second? One?
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah right the? Second Right that Skull, with canelo you
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: know that that kind of Stuff, like Stevenson, just stevenson
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: it would it's just like, volume ischi, you know when
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: he's just. Not throwing so, you know here he threw
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: enough to catch. Some attention and, you know it's one
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: of those things about what, you like like we, keep
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: saying which probably does have to. BE respected, I mean
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: i'm not going to say they, were crazy like, you know,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: to me it's Like a. Stevenson win but like the
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: people that were saying they had it Close, For zepaida
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: i'm not going to say they're out of their minds
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: just because the. Guy throws and like you said in the,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: first half you know. He's throwing and again with what
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: you like, with aggression i mean maybe maybe you're giving,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: you know you may look at that and say he's
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: taken some of, those rounds even though he's not doing
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: anything where He's hurting stevenson or landing a ton of
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: clean shots or something, LIKE that, i still, You know
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: i'd like To see stevenson be able to put a
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: little more hurt on, some people especially the better people's.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: He fights, but yeah, the body because he's really good
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: to the body when he commits, to it and he.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Hurts People but, i'm, thinking really even when he first
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: came out Of, the olympics, you know silver medalist in
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: his pro career started again, with him. It's offense, you
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: know his offense didn't always look. That great, you know
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: then he would have some good fights and a lot
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: against a little bit, lesser fighters, where then like, we said,
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: At least i'm, definitely saying, you know he looks real
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: good when he throws to, the body but you know
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: then when the level gets a, little higher he doesn't
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: quite do it, as much and you know he's kind,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: of content and then can He Buy.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: Dealo santo's had more to do with style match up,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: than him, You, Know Yeah delo santo's didn't come to. Fight, Either,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: NO no i think he got blamed a little too much.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: About it, you know, you know so far it's just
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: really within the. Boxing community but you did. Feel that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: BUT again i have to preface it with within the,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: boxing Community, like stevenson within the, boxing community he does
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: seem to be. Creative interest there's just something about the
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: guy's personality or, you know people will complain and then,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: you know he gets within the, boxing community you can
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: see he just gets a lot of attention when, he
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: fights which is a. Good thing what we're not seeing
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: and this is a problem with the sport. Right now
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: it's just not like more, like RIGHT like i don't
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: like to get into the trend, it matters but without like,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: MORE data i don't like to just, like, say oh
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: this is trending and this isn't and and make like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: that is like a like a, you know. Scientific RATING
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: but i. Couldn't help, but look you know there WAS
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: A Ufc saturday, night too and you know there's stuff's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Trending and stevenson wasn't even. Out THERE and i still
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: stick by. My PREMISE like i think within the, boxing
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: community he's getting a lot, of attention which seems to
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: have the potential to cross over to whatever we would
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: call a. Casual fan now because there's really nothing left,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: of that but like not. Even trending you SAW, THE
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: us i SAW, the Ufc and, i'm, like man that's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: that's where boxing's got a. PROBLEM though, i mean that's
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: the pay per view thing we're, talking about, you know
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: like not registering as opposed TO the Ufc. Fight night
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: that's that's, you know that's. A problem i still, think
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: Philosophically and i've done it in, my lifetime there's no
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: reason you CAN'T LIKE M m a. And boxing there's
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: really nothing why. You couldn't but, to me what's underrated
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: a little bit there does seem to be something where
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: like there's just a certain a number of people will
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: to watch, combat sports AND when mma, became popular like
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: that just cut into boxing's took away some of. Its
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: demographic like it didn't like the IDEA that ufc was
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: this ballooning mainstream that to me. NEVER happened i don't
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: care what they're worth, and everything but what they did
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: do was they just they just kind of took a
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: chunk out.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Of.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Boxing YEP and i feel like we saw a little
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: bit Of That saturday Night with Turkey, aw chic in
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: part because he keeps making the mistake with the pay per.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: View, THING yep, I agree and so we'll See what
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: shaghor is going to. Do next hopefully it's not a
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: step back because like, you said he does whether it's good,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: or bad he does. DRAW attention i mean that shit
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: he Said About. SUGARTE robinson i didn't, like that, YOU know,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: i mean.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: But he gets the guy gets he gets, its attention,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: you Know like i'm gonna have a little segment later
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: in My boxing.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Twitter things so, it's working. You know and he HAS
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: done i think two or three million dollar gates On The.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: East coast he's he's he's, getting there. You know. He's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: right like you talk about b side Him and gravante
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: would be a, big fight there's just not really.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: Would, be yeah there's SOMETHING about i Think with stevenson
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: in His favor it's, something personality, like positively like he
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: does say this stuff and he. Gets ATTENTION but I
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: guess i can only speak, for myself but like there's
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: something with him like you DON'T get i, don't know
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: you don't get mad At the it's like you kind
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: of don't get mad at. Him personally it's something about like.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: HIS delivery i, don't know it's something about his delivery
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: or stuff that's at least that's.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: GET irritated i get a little irritated, from him but
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: That's just. TWITTER stuff i get irritated about a bunch
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: of Stuff, on twitter. You, Know yeah but it's Not
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: like i'm, YOU know i try not to let that
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: skew what he does in. The RING and i did
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: like the clean shots he was layding right in front
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Of the potter once he tightened up that, shoulder roll,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: you know those left hooch right hands body shots like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: he did. His thing he definitely Didn't POT and i.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Looked at it. Going in people, ARE saying. I agree
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: i mean, really realistically you look at, His record zapata
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: was probably the best guy you.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Fort yeah or, at least, you know i'd. Say tied,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: YOU know i got, YOU know i don't think he
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: could put too many people. Over him that's her.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Damn. Sure right so you know that when a guy
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: has has a good win over the best opponent, HE'S
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: faced i mean you got to give him. Some.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: Props, yep exactly so play you AND mass playu has
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: been in some tight fights where he got the exactly
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: this time he was in a, tight fight and he
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: didn't get the knot if you look at it's Funny
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: because i'm looking at my scorecard and once you get.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: Beyond three round three was a, great round by, the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: way but then from like the fourth through probably, the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: seventh it was like man looking kind of one sided
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: all of, A sudden i was Like, goll lee like
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: this is a. Great performance but then to, his credit.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: PLAY you i gave him, THE eighth i gave him,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: THE ninth i gave him, THE eleventh i gave him.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: The twelfth now, Wasn't enough, Probably not but he did
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: you know some of the holding you know. THEY did
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: i thought they did an okay job of breaking This,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: down john where if you get the punches off first
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: and then you, quick clench it looks a lot different than,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: just grabbing, you know. Grabbing away and he was doing a.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: Good job but that he doesn't, have power but the
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: volume in his combination punching it's pretty impressive considering he
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't have much power. At all but the, short shots,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the uppercut some of those skill shots from Those uppercut mattias.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Was landing it turned out to be a pretty. Entertaining
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: fight in, my mind. Very competitive two scorecards had at, one, fifteen, one, thirteen,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: one fourteen, one fourteen, you know six', five, one, six six.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Seven five whatever i'm cool with Seven. Of five, Mattias
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: you know. MATTIA'S getting that i. DON'T mind it i
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: don't mind. It at all based off of, the middle
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: rounds it did feel like he was doing. More heavier damage,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: and THEN also, like i, said you know did do
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: you do we think play you won all? Of his,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Fights probably not so that's how it goes if. YOU
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: don't separate.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I definitely didn't i thought. HE was fortunate i thought. He's.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Been fortunate yep so if you don't, separate yourself enough this.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Is what happens so even if you if, you scored,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: it you know if somebody scored it out there, For
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: him winning i'm not saying he that's, a bad scorecard
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: but you just got to put. It in context what?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Did, You think yeah i'm, NOT, this ONE i, like
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: i said, except for Me Like, THE taylor surrana i
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: felt a lot of them did go kind OF the
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: way i, thought they might like this one that it,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: kind OF did Like i figured mattaeas with that high
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: contact style where he's got to bring a lot of
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: volume and. A power force at, age thirty three he's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: done IT longer than i, thought he could but it's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: going to. Slow UP some and i thought he, won
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: THE fight BUT i mean i think you kind of
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: had that where like maybe even a couple, of years
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: ago He stops, a, playoh yeah yeah, but that's fair,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: but you know not quite that he could do that,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: at this point but do enough to beat him, on
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: THE cards which i. Thought he, Did you know i'm
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: just not Really crazy, about playo's, style, YOU know, Yeah
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: i mean i'm JUST not so i thought it was
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: fair the way, it worked out, And you know PLO's
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: got the nod and. SOME close fights i think it's again,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: like to me like maybe a couple, Of years. Ago mattheyas,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: stops you Know he's probably leo doesn't make a run
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: the last four.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: Or five rounds that's, for damn, sure you.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Know right exactly, But, you know matthayas he's not going
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: to be able to keep doing, this much, longer you
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: know just, with his style.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: So Enough To. Beat dalton SMITH that's what i.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Was thinking about that. Fight got signed i'm, leaning Towards
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: yes but smith does, have some pop, and you know
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: if it is kind of an intriguing Fight because just
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: matthaias probably Fading Because and dalton Smith has some, he's
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: a ratic but he, has a, pop and, like you
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: know if, if you can it's very, hard to do
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: but if You can make, matthaeas respect you Then that
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: leaves mattaas with not, much you know NOT much plan
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: b for him. To Go to so smith might have
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: enough pop, to do that but he's he has lulls,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: and he's erratic so that might that Might be one
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: BUT that's where I thought that i, saw THAT too,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: and i thought but in a way that might Be
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: good for mattayas because he might be able to Get by,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: adult smith still so like maybe, that's a, guy you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: know at least he can, get that fight maybe. Get
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: by him but it's not. A, bad.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: FIGHT yeah yeah i agree for considering it's, a sanctioning
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: belt you, know SCENARIO.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: Right, Which i hate BUT that's why i was like
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: kind of let that one go and not, a Terrible
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: fight and mattias try to try to get try to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: get one more win at least. Under his belt right
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: after this this alphabet. Win over play not a bad not. A, bad, MATCHUP.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah i think. That's Well, Said all right So
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: you know I've Talked about david morrell, in, game plan
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: right staying on a f, in, Game plan right and
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: when you, see some, rounds, you're like wow. That was
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: nice your, jab was going you hit him, with an,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: uppercut you pivoted you, jabbed him again the left hand
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: came and that was it's it. Looks really good and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: then there's these rounds where once again he falls in
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: love with his power or maybe he just can't ever
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: stick to he gets. Bored. In there whatever it's just
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: weird because in the the round he got knocked down
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: and in the fifth round at that point that's. His
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: best round, so you're, like, all right dude that's. A
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: good round you do. More of that you could take over.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: This fight again but he gets clipped at the, end
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: of it not being disciplined and whether this is just
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: not having a few other fights that he had to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: really work, for coming up or. That's just, Him you
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: know I'm Not. Blaming ronnie Shields This. Is david morrell
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: he doesn't stay on game plan and once he started going.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: To.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: The body john once he started doing, All this, stuff,
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: you're like see you could have won this fight cleanly
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: and there wouldn't have, been a, Debate you know but
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: that wasn't the. CASE to ME i just i. JUST
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know i think This is just
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: morell and he loves to like it's fun, to. Be
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Flashy sugar ray leonard's my favorite fighter. Of all time
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: my second favorite college football Team Is. The MIAMI hurricanes
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: so i love, me some flashiness YOU know. WHAT i
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: Mean I, love BARRY sanders But I, love dion. Sanders
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: you know so it's not about but you. Gotta be
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: up it's got to be like the eighth, or ninth
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: round and you gotta be up seven to one then.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: Have your, on you know how did you see this?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: One playing out because a lot Of people thought morell.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Lost this fight some people thought he lost it, by
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: A lot. WHICH i didn't i thought that was a little,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: over the Top, LIKE al bernstein i thought he was a.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: LITTLE over it I.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: Thought Al, bernstein gott yeah.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: THAT was bizarre, I think Honestly i respect al, a
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: whole lot like what he's done, In his career but
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: ever since he's gotten he didn't get added on TO the,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: new pbc thing said some stuff that, were really, like,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: oh really okay, well that's cool, you're right there but
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: why didn't you say that about.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: That, that, you know yeah doing? That, too much.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah and No disrespect to al as far as what
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: he has done, in, His, career, right No no it's
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: i've loved him for. So many years but you. Can
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: see it to sit there and make a video like this,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: is a robbery, it's, fucking ridiculous, Right you know.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Al's a legend.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I've interviewed, him no disrespect, but it's obvious it's. Obviously
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: he's biased but what do you what do you think? Of,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: this fight well there. Was an overachievement uh, What? Is,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: it kataye, Yeah HE overachieved but i did like, what
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: he brought some of the stuff that he brought to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: the ring AS far as i want to see. Him
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Fight again but morell could have.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Won, This cleanly yeah well, he Came in but katayff
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: came IN with, p d, issues you know which, they just,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: ignore ignored, Basically you know so this guy came IN with.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: P d issues you got to be FAIR to more
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: i think you gotta Be. Fair to morell there he
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: got a.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: Two, year ban yeah espeosedly had.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: A two year supposedly be had a two year band.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: And he thought, it was okay saying she. Had, no
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: problem yeah just kind, of, you.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Know yeah, just you, know another one just kind of.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: KIND of, ignored i think you know a lot of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: fighters will say this and. Not follow Through but, watching
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: morell's fights and especially from early, IN his career i
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: think a lot of what the part you're talking about
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: is he has been opened on many occasions and fought
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: like it, THAT he said i. WANT to entertain i
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: don't want To be this cuban stereotype of boring fighter
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: who just. Wants the boxes, I'm with you he's obviously,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: got THE skills but i think this guy truly. WANTS
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: to entertain i thought the knockdown was it was just
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: kind of weird like that he too. And, Went down
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: now katayev HAD a, high ko percentage but it, was
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: against nobody but he could be, for real there that
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: could be, part of it but kind of a kind of.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: A strange, knockdown.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Solid puncher, that's for sure, good body puncher. That's, For SURE.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah But i thought morell did, enough TO win but i, thought,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: this one like it's, not like, WE especially me i
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: DIDN'T feel like i knew what we were Getting out
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: of kataya because looking, At his record, I'M just like
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: i just. Don't see it, on the record he's nine KOs,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: and ten wins, but you know he looks like there's,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: some pop there but just, who he's fought the level of.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Opposition WASN'T there but, i did say Like The old,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: larry MERCHANT thing which i did feel that came out,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: in this fight where you don't put too much stock
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: in a guy after a quote, unquote good loss and
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: that's what people Were doing with Morell after, the benavidez
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: fight which he fought well and at a lot of points,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: in the fight but he wasn't close to winning on the.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Score cards LEGITIMATELY so but i Thought he had benavidez
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: maybe even in a. Hair of trouble but that kind
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Of That that larry merchant adage KIND of, came i,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: FELT you know i. TALKED about that i felt like we,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: did see that like so YOU just as, i, was
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: saying like it turned out you couldn't take The, loss to, benavidez,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: and say well he's just Gonna blow this. Katayav guy,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: away you know he had he had to struggle against
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: him to. GET a win i thought. He did enough
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: but a, lot of, people you know there were people
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: that thought he, lost the fight but there were some
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: people outside of the judges that also. Thought he, won so,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: YEAH you know i would hope for what form all
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: of this could be is that since but let's say
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: that that, thought is true that you don't want to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: put too much stock in. A good loss he escaped with,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: the win, here you know against a guy who might
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: who has been on peds and. Maybe powers legit so
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: maybe coming maybe coming out of this just with a
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: win is not going to. Age, that, badly, yeah.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah right yeah and then you need to go that's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: going to be the case, unless, you know like let's
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: see the test results, of this one YOU know. WHAT
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: i mean i guess we got to. Figure it out,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: but beyond that if this is what if he came
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: into it, quote unquote, NATURAL then yeah i do think.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: It's gonna age.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Well actually yeah. It could have. It could age it,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: could age well so with morele, and you know now
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: he's he's at light, heavy and look you know his
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: fight with that it Was. TOUGH before, benevitez i Mean
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: You know colai. JICK'S no joke i mean he got
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: he got blown away by you Better be of, But,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: that's it, like you know because when He Lost, to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: marcus brown he had him and dropped it in all.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Kinds of trouble that was a HELL. Of on CBS that's.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: When ppc was pulling some. Good, stuff out yeah like that, was,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: a throwback right you Get THAT. On national. Tv good
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: fight it was order, on. THE card right i can't
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: remember exactly what card, that was, on but yeah that,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: was you know that was. A good one so uh
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: YOU know that i didn't like take that as a
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: negative like a lot, of PEOPLE did so I think.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: MORELL i don't i don't See any reason morrel. Can't
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: keep building it's just you couldn't put Too much, Into
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: benevite's loss like he still got he's still got a, ways,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: to go yes which he may be able. To do it,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: so you know this might have just been a good.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: One, to escape yeah and some of these fights had It,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Been BEFORE benaviez, like i said maybe this is exactly.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: What he needs but. At some POINT and what i
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: mean is it's, great to LIKE there's times i want him.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: To throw more so if he does, want to engage
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: then go. Ahead. And engage, now you know my thing
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: is you know the old when, you get punched you
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: want to, punch, Him, back right well he falls for
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: that each and, every time almost and then that's when
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: he gets, hit The cleanest right so that's The only, pro,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: i'm like dude you can pivot out of that and
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: just hit him with, a big, Shot you know like
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: once he got it all together and that right hand
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: was going, to the body you could tell this guy was,
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: getting shook, up you know and it was just a.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: Matter of time AND then so i like HIS instincts
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: AND i like. I like flashiness it's, JUST to me
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: i think he has to put. It all together, but
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: then again he didn't have the two and, three hundred, fights,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: you know right so he doesn't, have any, fights you
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: know so we can't say he hasn't, been tested. Now
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: you know so let's see what the next couple. Of
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: YEARS ago and i do think if they fought, this
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: again though he could literally win it.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: Eight, To, two, Yeah yeah definitely, i'm.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Gonna yeah and then the. Ten round thing these. Are
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: young fighters this didn't need to be. A ten rounder
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: i like the ten rounder if it's old vets and
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: it's like a mid level clash and you go ten
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: rounds and they're gonna really. Give, it up okay but
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: the ten rounder kind of threw me off because, it
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: was like and it showed in This fight because morell
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: was starting to. Really come, ON but. YEAH i didn't
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: i had HIM went into i had it like. Six
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: TO four but i really think that he could win
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: almost every round if he stayed. On game, Plan, YOU know.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: YEAH i think i do think, IN his, CASE i
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: believe i actually believe him he, wants TO entertain and
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: i agree we actually don't have that, From enough guys so.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: That, IS true yeah i adn't. PLAYING too much i
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: hate to.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: Criticize about That i'm A that's where i'm very hesitant
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: to get, on.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: His case but. That is true all, of a sudden,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: he's up, there you know not. Engaging or whatever, And
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: you know i'm a little biased, because you Know, he
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: chose minneapolis right literally could Have, Been, in Cali. Florida
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: or Vegas, He Chose, minneapolis.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: John no which has, Been good exactly, AND you know
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: i kind of know what, you're looking at YOU know,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: WHAT i mean i kind of know what. You're looking at,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: like you know, you see him especially earlier when he.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: First started out he could probably just outbox some, of
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: these guys but he. Wants to Entertain i'm not i'm.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Not in, favor you know you don't want to be
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: taking too many shots because then you're you're taking. The
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: brain damage. Let's face it even if you, want to
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: entertain you don't want to be just. Repeatedly taking HEADSHOTS
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: but but i like that when he says he. Wants to,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: entertain WITH him what i have seen is he wants
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: to be aggressive and try to get some people out
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: of THERE that that.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I have liked and when he puts his stuff together
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: other it does. Look damn, good you know it does.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: SOME nice knockouts i mean.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: He, said knockouts yeah when he, was more strategic like
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: he he was really getting. Into the, body so, overall.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: A great CARD and, like i said let's get to
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: the stuff because it all plays into the same pay. Per,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: View ship right let's keep going with the fights and
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: then we'll get time to TALK about because i started just.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: AS a teaser i did start to look in, because
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: you know the zone in THIS, t n t this
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: this football slash soccer tournament that's going that that. Was
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: going on the zone was ALL over tn t on
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: the mics when they're interviewing, like it was they have
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: a they, have the right so it's like. A combo
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: deal and it WAS Also. On hbo max so that's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: just a, little you know teaser on what could be
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: potentially that's.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: What they've been that's the kind of thing. They've.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: Been missing yep and, the money's there so there's no
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: reason not. To do. It let's start so. Here's The
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: thing If usink and dubois and then the UNDERCARD, for
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: the bbc if you put that together in one, Pay,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: per view okay we might. Be cooking here we might have,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: an entertainment, night you know but obviously you never like
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: a pay per view during the day. And at night.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: It's pretty ridiculous but let's talk about because. The inner
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: card i'm not saying there's nothing on, the Inner Card
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: but usak dubois who we know what the. FIRST one
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: was usa got, the job done but there was some
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: controversy people still swear it, up and down as if
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: they haven't been watching fights for, so many decades and
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: as if every week we don't see a belt line
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: shot or one just on the lower part of the
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: belt like this is it's like getting hitting the side
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: of the head and. People freaking out it's like did
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: we see? It every weekend like you could, Say it happened?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: But is it is it? Really that bad because the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: way they some people described the usk lobe Or the
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: d Bois, lobo on usik it was like, clear as
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: day you're blind if you. Don't, see it uh they'll
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: they literally will stop it right before impact and still
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: picture and, you, be like no get it where he?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Was going? Upward, You know anyway so is it the
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: fact that that's his best bet is trying to work him,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: to the body try to knock him out and hurt,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: him or whatever or is this really just a rematch
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: That just because dubois has been doing good lately his,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: last two fights he showed out and it just the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Fight cells du boise turned into a solid, ass top
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: guy one, of the top you? Know top whatever is
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: it just a solid fight, and you know old man,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: freaking you know father time. Could come in he could
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: rear his ugly. Head this weekend but is that what he?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: Needs To happen that usik's not on, His normal self
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: and maybe du bois learned a thing or two coming through.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: All this fire what are your thoughts, in the rematch
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: because it's, tough to, Say you know like and, by
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the way with the power shot we've or, the body
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: shot we've, always said that It doesn't mean usik would
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: stay on the ground. The whole time i'm sure he
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: would have got up if it would have been, called
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: a knockdown but we don't know how he would have
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: reacted after once they said go fight now. After eight,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: seconds SO yeah and i don't.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Even think it but, The, TIDE truth chris i don't think. It's,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: a certainty people. That's A certainty like i don't think.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: It's a certainty he would, have, Gotten OUT.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Right but i, wouldn't just say oh, he was down.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: He was out he. Wouldn't, got up yeah we don't
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: know he made. He was in he would have been
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: in some. Form of right tell how when, he was down.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: How IT looked but I just don't i also don't
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: want to go. The other Way john, where i'm like oh,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: he was out it. Was a, knockout, NO nothing now
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: i we don't know because we got to have. The real,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: live hey dude that's. A knocked down get. Your ass up.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: You know that.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: We don't know but but the dude's shown vulnerability of
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: the body and refs have let, him let refs including,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: in that fight have let him get. Away with it
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: it's not the first. Time it's happened even happened In.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: Fights with, joshua you know he happened In. Fights with
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: gus you, have, You know refspin refspin given the guy.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: Leeway On that So i'll go. I'LL go, FARTHER i
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: mean i think in part it shows where. The sport is,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: but to me this is actually one of the best
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: fights you can make in. BOXING right now i think
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: what's a shame about it is it's just where. The sport,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: is you know all these, things put together, like You
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: know a ukrainian fighting a brit and, then you know like,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: you said after it's like it's just got nothing for
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: where the sport IS in the, Us right now like
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: outside of, hardcore boxing people there's nothing. For us sensibility
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: even though it's. The heavyweight division that's. What's a, shame
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: but LIKE why do i think it's a good fight
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: for the reasons. WE'RE talking, about i mean you have
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: that combination of in, the first fight there, was an,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: argument an argument a legit argument that, a legit argument,
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: a legitimate argument, not a certainly but a legit argument
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: That because of usak's history of, body Vulnerability too that
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: dubois got robbed of a knockout. At, that point now
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: The people in usik's corner another fair point they can
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: MAKE is and i saw this watching, the, fight, live
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: like Like why did dubois? Respond so terribly then after that,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: which you did he just totally, to you know his,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: response was awful not just when he got at the moment,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: he got stopped but right after he got could have.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Had am out he just he. Just didn't respond so
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: but then You have this this is what makes to
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: me this fight so intriguing and one of the best
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: fights that could be made just. In boxing, terms like
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: then but then you have du blog on this run
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: that nobody including. MYSELF sees, coming i, mean you know
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: he takes Shots Early, against jarrell miller, who you know
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: he stops the guy the first time the guy ever,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: gets stopped late which is. New from him and then
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: you're thinking Of ALL its. Miller pd issues And but then.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Miller the win the wind ages Even better because miller
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: Performs well against, ruiz after that and then you Have.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Against her govic it's still a head, scratcher to me
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: to the because it's. HEAVYWEIGHTS this, point i mean a
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: guy who had shown a weak chin and just and, then,
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: people say, no it's late. It's, just stamina yeah but
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: he was In, trouble against, loraina a cruiserweight, coming up
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: early almost out early, in the fight and then he
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: just continually eats Right hands from herkovic, and ends, up
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: you know. Getting a Stoppage. And, then, joshua look look
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: whatever You Think. ABOUT anthony joshua i was thinking, of
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: this tonight you know before. We came on probably not even.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Enough credit given like Whatever You. THINK anthony, Joshua I
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: mean anthony joshua. CAN hurt, YOU i, MEAN.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I mean i DON'T that's.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: WHAT i, SAY i mean i don't think. He's got
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: right he's, got some speed, like you know he. Can
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: hurt you he's big and he.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: Can hurt you like we talked about delivery, System last
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: week well he's.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Got the delivery he's got, some delivery system and it's
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: like whatever you, think of him he. Can hurt you
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: and So there's du bois, then you know blowing the
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: guy away does get stunned a bit and then then.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: Just obliterates him, like you know so he's showing some
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: resiliency that he's, dominating the fight and he's showing a
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: moment of resiliency and just. Issing the guy nobody's dominated the,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Guy like that, SO you know i think maybe we're,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: not you know Even we know. Joshua has FLAWS but
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: like i was thinking, that again tonight really to, du
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: blas credit like nobody's done, that to him, because You Know,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: with andy Ruiz He had, ANDY ruiz, down i Mean
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: and then. Ruiz caught him but like and, then you
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: know he lost tight.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: To mek around after all. Those knockdowns too now he
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: turned his back, and all that but he still was able,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: to walk around look like, he could, continue, you know.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Right and then lost Tight. Fights to usick but then,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: like you Know you got dubla just beating the beating
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: the guy around all. Over the place and Then even
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: when joshua lands, a good Shot then du blas immediately
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: responding to the guy with like a ko. Of the
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: year so like dublis such a run and he's young,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: For a heavyweight, like you know, he's taking shots but
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: the thing is. He's taken shots So and then usik
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: really is that he's, at thirty, eight you know the
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: father time thing really. Can be coming one thing you see.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: A little bit i, mean to me his calling card
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: ultimately has. Been his volume, and you know in that,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: second fury fight definitely thought. He won IT but, like,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: i was like IS the and i have a look
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: at the actual data, points Of it, but, i'm like
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: man it looks like the guy's volumes. Dropping a Bit
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: so like duba is gonna have a, Big power advantage
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: he's got. A size advantage he hasn't had. A resiliency
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: advantage he certainly hasn't had. A stamina, advantage but, like
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: You know is usak's age going to be? At a?
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: POINT you KNOW i mean i Don't even think dubois
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: decisions out, of the question like the odds have it out,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: of the QUESTION but like i don't think it really
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: is Because if the bli's, resiliency is better you know,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: it has been but Now, he's facing usik the top
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: guy who he basically folded against. The first time but if,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: HIS resiliency's, better i, mean you know he could be
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: hanging In, there hurting usik maybe, not stopping him but.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: Hurting him Sometimes and.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: And usik can't get before and he's come back, from
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: that now yeah quit taking knee and, all that, stuff,
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: you know right and.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: You know that that maybe even. Him by decision i'm
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: not saying dubros can't. KNOCK him OUT i mean i
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: think at The stage where usik's at as good, AS he,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: is i, Mean you know dubrois has a chance. To,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Stop him here i'm having trouble making a call. ON this,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: ONE i mean i don't really want To pick against
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: usk because of. What he's proven yeah he, could do
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: it he could do it. One More time so i'm
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: going to just do a little bit of. A cop,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: OUT i think i think THE best thing i can say,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: about this one but it is fair even though it's
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: not a, pick Per se where i'm, waffling A bit
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: But i think i'm looking at this, one THIS way
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Like i think usak could. Win this, Fight you know
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: i'm not ready to, pick AGAINST him but i don't like,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: minus THREE hundred like I don't like HUSIK minus and
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: i THINK that's probably i just. THOUGHT about that i
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: thought that's probably THE best way i can. Put, this
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: one like but at, minus three, hundred, to, ME no
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: no i would.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Not have money you got to put up. To make
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: MONEY and am i?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Sure of?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: That, one hundred yeah that's.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: A good goal i Would not bet usik, on this
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: FIGHT even though i think he might WIN it and
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: i may end up, even you know a couple.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: Of days way, like by decision because that's really the
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: only way you're gonna YOU know. WHAT i mean I don't.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: THINK i would I don't think. I would Bet that's what.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm saying here LIKE the what i see on this
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: one with THE odds is. I wouldn't. BET i don't
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: i Wouldn't bet on husick at all, on this Fight
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: even though i'm not. Picking against, him he might he.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: MIGHT win it i can't quite make up. My MIND
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: there but i just, like the numbers like On a,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: du blah Win even a dubois Decision or. A ko,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: win i, MEAN you know I could see i think
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: Those scenarios for dubois are are just more likely than
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: the odds makers you're giving Him Here, because usak's, USIK you,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: know I mean if usa can get by this.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: One speaking of a guy, on, A run right and also,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 5: another thing like Even even, THOUGH fury's HUGE i, didn't
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: i mean, And you know i'm not taking Anything, away
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: From usic but, i'm just saying as Were handicapping, this
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 5: DUBOIS fight.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Like I didn't because usik put Real hurt on fury in, the,
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: first fight yes but. HE did not i thought he
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: totally clearly won. The second, fight i'm, like you know
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: Some people in fury was, WANTING you know i thought
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: he clearly, won the fight but he didn't put really
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: any hurt on him in. The second fight, And you know,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: fury's been hurt, so you know, he's showed resilience but
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: he's been hurt. Plenty of times So like, Then i'm, looking,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: i'm like, wow you know he couldn't hurt him in.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: The second, fight but again The mystery, WITH dubois, is
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: i MEAN the consensus i think at this point probably,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: is That well when, dubois gets tired he's, likely to
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: fold even though, it's from. Shots YOU know and i, did,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: think about like this book's forgotten, because you know he
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: had a, writer with it, but you know it was
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: the late Seventies, book by ali the greatest you he
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: had like, a you know a. Writer with him but
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: but it's kind. Of it's forgotten they never bring.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: It out and someone just gave me it well by
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: it five bucks and it.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Never didn't get good reviews. At THE time but i
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of good stuff in there that
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: actually is being forgotten because my guess is.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: It's Always work.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: It's ali's words, In other words i'm sure This is
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: what ali was, telling the writer so, where it fit
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: because this would be maybe the people who were thinking
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: What happens to dubois like and because this has, then
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: been changed but This is what ali, said about, it
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 2: you know right, after the, event YOU know because i
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: think this book. Was seventy seven so He just beat
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 2: foreman a, few years, before you know he said he
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: you know that the plan was To, move against foreman
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: but he was in the first round and he was
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: looking at the way foreman steps were and he's cutting
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: off the ring and how young and, strong he was,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: and HE herman if i try to move against this guy,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: and just move he's going to. Take me out i'm
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: going to get tired and and he's going to. Take
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: me out, LIKE you KNOW i gotta i can't do.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: It that way and you know he, also felt like
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: because it's funny because this is the Opposite Of what,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: archie moore said He was. In foreman's corner, But you know,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: ALI himself said I don't think i ever Would have.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: Taken forman out he was too young AND strong if
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: i didn't.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Get, him tired yeah you know he's gonna SAY talk
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: about iq and a, Guy that said i'm gonna listen to, What,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: he says.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: Well that's what i'm thinking to it and that. Book
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 2: For something and I've Read the, hawser book afterward which
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: was a really really good book. In ninety, one you
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: know he was the writer, and you know doing, interviews
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 2: and everything but like that, The greatest book like, Because
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: you know ali He had the parkinson's, and you know,
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: let's face it he. Wasn't the same but like this was.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: LIKE seventy seven i, mean to me this is what the.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Guy was saying even if somebody was writing. It for
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: him so You know. What ALI said so i recommend
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: reading THAT book yecause i think it's been it's fallen
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: under the radar, because to me it's got a Lot
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: of like ali's, words In there what ali was saying.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: About, this stuff yeah.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: And and that's, like to, me it's Like Is that
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: dubois is he just? A guy? WHO you know i
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: think that's what people would be looking at now, For
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: him too like he's he's real strong in, the first half,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: but you know if he gets in, the second, half
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: you know, and he's tired. He's GONNA fold but, i don't,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: know you know.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: He, can't make. Adjust, you know yeah And he took.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: Miller l EATE that's. WHAT i mean i think it's.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: It's a puzzle it's it's a. Very interesting puzzle there's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: just a lot of things to me that make. This
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: fight intriguing it's just a shame that it's on pay
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: per view and it just doesn't have any US sensibilities
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: because i just think where we're at, IN the sport
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: i actually do think this is one of the best
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: fights that could be.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Made right, now and, Visually You know wembley stadium is
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: gonna be packed It's gonna be they're gonna be, singing and,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: screaming and yeah it's that part of it's. Gonna be
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: good so just kind of, Looking at It busik by
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: ko and this just to go just off, Your decision
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Thing ousik by ko plus One oh five busik by
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: decision plus, One Fifty eight daniel dubois by decision. PLUS
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: eight thirty.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I like, That i mean i'm not saying, it's gonna
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: happen but but, plus to me that to me at,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: PLUS eight thirty. I like that i think there's probably
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 2: a scenario where it could happen Because you figure duoa
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: would probably really have to hang On because of. Usik's gas,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: tank yeah yeah, and you.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: Know surviving because he's so damn crafty and he's got
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: that will and it's gonna be to knock his, ass out, too,
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: You Know right That's that's.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: What, i'm Thinking like maybe dubois hurts him a, couple
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: of times maybe even he, drops Him again but usi survives,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: because he's, tough he's crafty has to, come on Late
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: and maybe dubois is hanging on. By A thread but
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: i think that scenario at plus eight thirty. Is pretty
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: good but BUT but one i saw somebody, suggest out
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: there which is not. A bad idea you could also
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: then go with a, scenario, AND say like I just
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: think dubois is that strong early and look what he Just.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: Did to Joshua even Though. Husik's not joshua maybe he's
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: gonna look, AT it like i can't let this guy
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: go late because of. His gas tank and he. Just
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: comes right he just come, right at him and he's
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: throwing Power shots and husick doesn't fire back, with enough authority,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: and you Know maybe josh wood just starts hitting him
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: with too. Many, big shots, Now you know, Husick's great
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: defensively and LIKE you, and i, say you know you
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: look at the. Guy's head movement it's. KIND of underrated
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 2: i mean he just even him. Moving his head he doesn't. Really,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: get him.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah you knows everything he does.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: Has, been underrated yeah the Only real weakness i've seen
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: in his game is that that the, body you know
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: what he. What he gets he does not respond well
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: when he gets hit with, legit body.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: Shots and he starts looking for. The ref too he looks.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: To The ref every he's done it every time. IN
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: his career i mean. Just every time, so you know
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: that's where a strong ref who who's sadly to that
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: that could Be a.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: Huge what are? You looking at you should be looking,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: at him, right just.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: Fight you know like there's no break in the action
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: here because you're looking? At who's, sick you know that was.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: A clean, shot let's, go you know but they they've,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: never held him they've never held him accountable like that literally.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: In his career and you gotta FIGURE, in The, uk
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: in london if it's a borderline shot that they probably
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: will let it. GO this, time i, Mean who knows
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: but at some point they're, gonna be like you know, what, f, this,
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: no no get. Go and, FIGHT you know. I don't
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: know i'm not going to make a, bet on.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: That you know but here's if you want to make
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: The case for usik just because how. Good he is
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: clearly again THERE'S one thing i got to. Give him
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: credit i've, said it before but it's. Kind of underrated
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: In the, second joshua fight they did finally Get it through.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: Joshua's head late actually he just went heavy to the
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: body and he was hurting husick. Bad and ushic he
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: was barely hanging outbod, he hung on got, to the
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: corner and he came out and Went right at joshua,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: with high volume and he took that fight right. Away
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: from him joshua, did not respond and that was very
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: impressive resiliency And heart by usik showing that would support
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: that argument that people were making that you, Brought, up earlier, chris,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: that like well if he knew he had, to get
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: up he would have gotten. Up and responded now he,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: did do that. We'll never Know but, in joshua too
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: he did show something there, that to me he had
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: not shown in any of, his other fights which that
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: was getting hit. To the body and you know it
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: happened to having, without referee help having to come back.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: And do something he did.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: Do it top. Of the round i'm taking this.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: Way, right now yeah he did Do that, In joshua too,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: so you know if he can, do that again and,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: that was, just you know not. Too Long ago but usik.
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Is thirty eight but if he, does that Again that's
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 2: where dubai's in trouble because dubois stamina hasn't been. The
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: greatest overall and then If, you've got usik who's the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: best gas tank guy in the maybe, in the business
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: certainly in, the heavyweight division even at thirty eight. High,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: levels too yeah and you're, in like ten, eleven and
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: twelve and that guy's just throwing a bull and the.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: Punches at, You you know dubob could be a guy
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be in serious trouble. In that situation that's
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: what makes it hard to Pick.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: Against, du sie yeah all this talk is just getting
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: me excited. For this Fight so many pakyel returns from
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: like a four, year you know the four years ago
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: we Saw, him against ugas. Didn't Look, Good, Now ugas
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: ugas barrios him the, fight THE same and i would
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: say At the time ugos was a higher Level, fighter than.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: Barrios you know and even in the LITTLE highlights that
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: i saw, of as exhibition even, In an exhibition manny
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: just didn't look, good at all and. Nor should he
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: he shouldn't look. Good right, now you, know he's old,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: he's past it and you know he's saying stuff that
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: we've heard from, Other guys too, john where well this
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: isn't just, a one, off you know and. There's already
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: momentum if he, gets the Win it's The mayweather, pak,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: YO too right. I don't know it's just as Much
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: as if pakyo came Out and beat Barios WITH. The
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: mayweather pacyo you know you put the. Undercard on that
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: would that help? The, young fighters. Yeah it would i'm
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: not gonna it's still do numbers. ALL that stuff I
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: bet You amazon or, netflix, would, Say hey now i'm
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: willing to put up. Money for, that you know we
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: don't need that on, pay per view wouldn't do if it,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: wasn't on pavy it would. Do gigantic numbers. We know
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: that but it's just, even seeing him like beyond the
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: shadow boxing handspeed which still, isn't as fast but you
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: know he can. STILL do that i think he'll be
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: able to do that, in twenty years YOU know, What
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: i mean he'll just be able. To do that. THAT'S
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: just him, I Just yeah mario barrios looked like shit
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: in his last fight because he was on the undercard,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: of that too which people were. Talking about it, i'll
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: SAY that BUT i just. I just don't i'm just
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: not a not a fan of this main event fight.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: For OBVIOUS reasons, like i said if we Could Put
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: the usik dubois and then some of. These action fights
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: now you got yourself pay, for, Your card right but it's,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: just you know we see. This in boxing it's not.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: Reinventing the wheel. We get it people come back. When
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: they shouldn't but it doesn't mean we can't say you,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: shouldn't come.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: Back you, KNOW.
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: You know i think just, people are man he was
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: such a beloved fighter for obvious reasons, and great reasons that.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: That legendary fighter but It's just targ i'm really it's
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: more looking at it kind of, hope nothing, Happens you
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: know That's really what, i'm looking, at you Know. Because
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: remember ugas people forget the pictures in The, videos after ugas,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: his eyes swollen his his wife, feeding him soup Looking.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Like daw man he just, give it. Up you know
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: and It's not like ugas is a, huge country. Either
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: YOU know so, I don't KNOW i. Just i don't
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: it's more of a worry Than, anything a, hernia you know.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: WHATEVER the hell. I Don't know maybe i'm just GETTING
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: older and i think about. That stuff, MORE but yeah
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: i just beyond the Undercard stuff that. I'M excited about
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 1: i just it's just A fight, where i'm like this is,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: just you know running the mill boxing stuff that we
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: have to deal.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: With, AS fans, YEAH i.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: DON'T i don't i.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: Don't like it and even though you know there's, some
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: you know you have a clothes odds matchup on the undercard,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: with you know two guys in this world of box
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 2: And we Know. Frondora and Zoo the more i'm looking, at,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: it though too really it's not even that that great
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: OF a CARD i. AND i don't i. Just, DON'T
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: like yeah i Don't like the pacquia coming. Back at all, i'm,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: with you like you have. To be fair this has
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: happened in every era, of boxing history but that doesn't
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: mean you have. To LIKE it and i saw something
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: that really put it in perspective, for me today just
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: just REVIEWING records like i always do when big fights,
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: are coming up even, Though you know i'm just always,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: taking another look and it doesn't. Seem like it so
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: this probably. Will, surprise people well you know It's today's, what,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: July fifteenth right so in five days it'll Be six
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 2: Unless pakia, wins saturday night it'll be six years since
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: he's wont to fight.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Because he, want to fight and that Was What against browner.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: Thurnmann In twenty nineteen july twenty's. WAS it was i
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: mean that was like a last he. Won the fight
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: he scored a knockdown. Credit to him there's problem was
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: it's going to be six Years ago on. July twentieth
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: exactly so what is a forty six year old guy
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: doing in there who's not big for? The weight either
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: and you know it.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: Would be bad it wouldn't, be bad.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: Anyway, but you know he's not big for the weight
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: and he hasn't won a fight in. Almost six years,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 2: and you know so the, argument, Is like well barrios. Isn't,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: That good sure barrios, Isn't that great but just with the,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: age advantage alone he's a. Competent, Professional fighter yes and
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: when you're getting to those kind, of age gaps you can,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: JUST say, that i mean right to professional fighter fighting
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: a forty six. Year old guy there's too much of
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: an age Gap. There, FOR pac, yeah, i mean well
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: The one thing, pac has done like as, he Got
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 2: older and i've, said it before like that's been kind
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 2: of remarkable, is his volume partially because he's moved. Up in,
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: weight you know he. Was a flyweight like his volume,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: for a welterweight has stayed good even as, he's gotten
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: old which you really don't see that with. Older fighters,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: normally but again he hasn't won a fight for him,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: with six, years you, know last fight. Right he, lost
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: you know he doesn't. Belong in there. He just doesn't,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: AT this point i, don't like, THAT you KNOW i
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: just i. Don't like this this is like you've had
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: in boxing history. As desperation plays but this is. A
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Desperation play even pacquiao's numbers pay per view, wise were,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: declining you know they've been declined for, a long time
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: so surely he's going to carry a little more cachet
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: than a lot of the fighters that haven't gotten that.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: Kind of, exposure of, course you know he was in
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: the biggest pay per view of All, time with bayweather
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: but it's not going to be now, at this point he's.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: Forty six barrios this this just seems it. Just seems,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: pointless it really. IT really, DOES i mean i.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Don't see, it YOU know WHEN i when i first,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: HEARD it rumored i heard that it's actually someone's looking
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: to like just buy the fight and not be on.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: Pay per view So whether that's netflix, wanting to Capitalize or, maybe,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: amazon saying Hey, look at netflix what. Are, they doing
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: hey manufact we can. Still. Sell him right then all,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: of a sudden that opens up my mind a little
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: BIT because, Then, i go okay these action fights would
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: be good. For the audience if it's part, of your
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: SUBSCRIPTION then THEN i Would i think i'd have. A
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: different view not that man he should be, in the
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: ring but he is going to be. In the ring
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: therefore you could parlay something of a rating and help. Out,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: the other okay now you sold, me on it but
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: sell me on it because, you're selling. It you, KNOW
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: so yeah i just it could actually be a, very
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: bad fight YOU know, What i mean it could be a.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: Really bad fight, and you know it's kind of like
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: but it is somewhat of a good comparison because it.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 2: Kind of worked it's like even though of course it,
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: was lesser opposition, BUT it's like, i don't know it
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: does show you how boxing could market themselves at least a,
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: little bit better, like the equivalent like like that they Did,
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: That with savvy like you go back to, the early,
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: nineties you, know the nineties end, of the eighties like
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: they Took, homes and foreman and they had HIM. Fighting
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: on usa everybody knew. Who they were and then.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: You're getting rated you're getting rated like like people.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: Are seeing it they're, fighting lesser, guys, but like Hey This,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: is Larry Holmes.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: It's georgia jordan people.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: Are tuning in like so it's kind of like, what,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: you're saying right like you put Many pakiaw on amazon, Or.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: You know netflix it's not like we're saying he, should
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: be back but at least it kind of, serve some purpose,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: like you know a pay, per view, grab you know
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: an attempt to pay per view Money. Grab, with pacquiao,
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: yeah at age at, age you. KNOW forty six i
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: mean it's it just doesn't. Lead to anything this, is,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Not leading right that's that's.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: What it is and and he even, though, he says
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: oh this isn't, a, one off okay but you should
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: have had it for free if it wasn't, a one
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: off and and then build, yourself to it. You know
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: exactly there's just there's just no. Way AROUND it and
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: i don't want, to hear, anything YOU know when i
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: started To Hear the, george foreman stuff, But, he would
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: yeah but he. Stopped way earlier he stopped, fighting way,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: earlier you know and so he, had you know whereas
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of punishment win Or lose that, pakil went, through.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: You know a lot for and, foremost was informant. WAS a,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 2: heavyweight i mean it's not as focused on. SPEED and
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 2: reflexes i mean trying to fight As a wealthy he's
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: gotten by because he started. That fly away but even
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna get by.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: At, forty six no you're. Right about that you're. Right
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: About that and barrios is confident enough and has been
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: in there with some decent to really. High level fighter,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: he's you know it is. What it is So fondora in,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: Zu the rematch this one really intrigues me just off,
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: of a fight just breaking it down as a fight
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: because and we've talked about this, in recent time, where,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: you're like, MAN you know i felt pretty confident watching
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: the first two Rounds that tim zu was gonna. Win
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: that fight but, that's two. Rounds, you know now did
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: the blood spilling in his eye have something to do? With,
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: him losing, yeah of course he still landed a bunch
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: of punches. In the fight his corner. Let him down
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: they should have just. Had a rematch should have just
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: shut it down and. Had, a rematch now would he had? Gotten,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: Some stick sure but it's better than where he. Went,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: After that, Right but this i'm intrigued in this fight because,
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: you can anytime you can make a case, for BOTH
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: guys and i think it's legitimate. For both. Guys it
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: does it's kind of a make or break in a,
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: sense for both but exceptionally, especially Excuse, me tim zu,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: because you know flash back, a year ago and then,
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 1: even before that as he made his, way over here
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: he started, fighting better names and then, it, was like
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: okay they're really Looking for tim, zu to, take you
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: know to really be one of the, fifty four pounders
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: one of, the top guys and. Then it happened so
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: and to lose, twice like that especially the way he lost,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: that other fight you know. That was brutal fandora's gonna
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: be there, to be hit but he's going to, hit
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: a lot, you know too so he's gonna press him.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 1: Mentally as well and does he get into that same spot,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: where it's, like oh, shit you know what are your
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: thoughts heading? Into THIS one because i remember not long
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: ago You started leading fundora a Little, BIT were YEAH.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: I Think i. THINK i'm There i think i'm gonna
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: make The call for fundora. ON this one i think
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: here people were missing like what, you refer, To you
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: know zoo just getting Blown, Away by bertzaliev like like
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: this is not. AN immediate rematch i mean, that was
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 2: discussed didn't happen and didn't Work. Out for, zoo you
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: know like this is, not you know people are like,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: IN their mind i think they know they're like taking
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: this like. An immediate rematch it's not. AN immediate Rematch
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: i mean zuo, got blown away took a, lot of punishment,
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: and you know It wasn't Like fondora Against mendoza when
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: ferndora's dominating the fight and he. Just got called, NOW
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: you Know i Know, zoo HANDLED mendoza but i mean
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: like that was a getting call, kind of thing Like
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: You know. ZOO mersalie, of i, mean the dude the
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: dude just. Got blown over he just got dominated. And
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: blown away And then like i'm, adding TO that like,
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: i just THOUGHT even though i think he had some,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: Talent Like that joey spencer just put a non effort.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: In against him Now that's, Not, zoo's fault like That's not.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: Kid zoe's fault he did what he, needs to DO but. Like,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: i can't Yeah that's what i'm. Looking out there i'm
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: like that that was just So. Bad by spencer i'm
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: like that didn't. REALLY prove, Anything i mean spencer just
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: didn't offer. Any real. RESISTANCE he, wasn't i mean Like
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: we Saw spencer against, ramos even overmatched he was literally
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: throwing punches back when. IT got, stopped i mean that
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: was nothing like what We, Saw against zoo like there's.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: SOMETHING like this i mean that was like that was like.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: A non effort that was just like what the hell is? This,
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: to ME like so i, don't mean, like you know
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: a type of thing like, A you know i'm not
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: like a. TYPE of thing i Just mean like spencer
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: and his dad or like just they're coming in for
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 2: a payday or something was. Right right exactly it was like.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: A no Show so So i'm not i'm not putting any,
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: stock in that even Though that's. Not zoo's fall, and You,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: know so, fondora you know he picked up another win.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: ALONG the Way i think fundora has the power to
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: knock people out. With those uppercuts, but you know there
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: ARE times now i think even he worries about his
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: own vulnerability and he'll he'll back off. From doing, THAT
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: like so i don't see a War where like fondora
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: is laying it on the line Trying to. KNOCK zoo
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 2: out i think that would be a really exciting fight
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: if he tried to Do that and zoo, was firing
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: Back and maybe fondora gets Him or or Zoo. Then
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: GETS fondora but I don't think fundora is going. TO
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: do that i think he'll probably be at a high
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: volume of boxing occasionally and you're using his jab SOME
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 2: and and i don't like him as. MUCH like that
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 2: i don't think he's as good, Of A fighter but
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 2: i kind of feel like he's gonna put enough of
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: that together that he'll take the. DECISION this, time i mean,
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: he's the underdog but that that surprised me. A LITTLE
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: bit but I just think zoo Damage, WITH that mersaliev
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: i mean just. GETTING blown away i think that's going
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: to play. SOME role here i think. IT'S being discounted
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: i don't think he. Can discount that you got to
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: look at this as it's not an Immediate rematch like zoo.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Had that cut now we're having. An immediate, Rematch you
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: know zoo took, damage IN between and i think it
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: matters the. Way it happened he's just going to. Be
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 2: MORE vulnerable SO i don't I don't see fundor necessarily
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: committing to try to. Knock him out And that's why.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 2: I'm Thinking decision but i'm Gonna go with fundora in
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: the upset since he. Is The underdog but i'm going
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: to stay With it. All i'll go. I'll go, decision you,
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: know interesting FIGHT but again i think you have to
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: keep in mind this this is not. An immediate, rematch.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah and, to your point had his corner done
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: the right thing one or two the fight played out
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: how he did and they did go to, AN immediate
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: rematch I Would. Favor, tim zuo yeah that.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: WOULD be DIFFERENT i mean i think AT that POINT
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: i might i Might have leaned zoo if it was, an, Immediate,
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 2: rematch right yeah.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: After that cut it's clearly to. Be that competitive with
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: that much blood, in your eye it does say something
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: and that is stuck. In my head and then, there,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: are levels right and, we'll find out you Know what
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: level bakraham is that he Might be fighting, lupin HERE
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: Soon which.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: I that's what. I'm, saying today WELL one thing i
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: do want To add about fundor that WORRIES me that
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: i haven't HEARD discussed. And i don't, but to me
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: it's not out, of the blue because early IN his
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: career i, was, saying that, Like you know fundora with
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: that really in terms of boxing hit history and an
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: abnormal height for the weight, He you know i'm going
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: to say That even, Though i'm picking i'm like he's
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: been at one this is not a weight class thing
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 2: when you're, at his height like he's been at one fifty,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: Four TOO long like i will. JUST say, That i
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: mean i'm gonna, say to me it's too long now
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 2: like he ought to be up, like you know. At
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: that height, WHATEVER he's doing i think, it's too long. Especially, right,
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: now yeah exactly there's nothing at, one sixty, basically you
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 2: know especially after the first, couple of, Guys You know Jane.
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: Beec AND adamas so i just, and you Know with,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: WITH fundora's, height, i mean heck he, could be, fighting
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: you know if his, chin holds up he could be fighting.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: THAT cruiser, weight i, MEAN you know i wouldn't say
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 2: it would hold, up for heavyweight but he's got the.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: Height for it but like to, be you know the,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: ONE fifty four, i could, see you know a dangerous
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: package and something we've. Never seen before but he's kind of,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: done that already like and just. STAYING there, now, I
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: mean yeah i know, paydays and marketability but it's it's.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: Probably past time, SO you know i don't want to
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: take Something, Away from zoo but like that's worries Me somewhat,
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: about Fondora too that i'm saying, at this point like
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: him still coming in at, one fifty four that's, A
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: time bomb like it's it's not gonna it's not gonna
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: be there real soon if he. Keeps, doing that.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 1: Well, TO your point i saw the fight Way back
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: in august Twenty nineteen Against, clark where clark both of
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: them have the longest legs you'll ever see in, a,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: Ring Together right but clark got knocked out. Of the
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: RING all as i saw was legs and he. Got back,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: in but anyway, to your, point you know he has
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: been on some sort of level, since, twenty nineteen right so.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: That is long but Another thing about fundora is he
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: can he gets. Hit a, lot you know he doesn't get,
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: hit a lot and so his defense lets him, down a.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 2: Lot it does but he's so tall that Like even
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: though mendoza did, It, to him yeah and he and
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: he doesn't. Always fight tall but like you're you're delivery system. Before,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 2: that happened yeah it's it's hard, to, better performances right
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 2: it's hard to always get a clean shot on him because.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: He's so tall even though his defense.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: Isn't, the greatest well, early in fights that's where he's vulnerable,
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: in my opinion because and it's to get. Hit a
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: lot not obviously he got, knocked out later but u
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: but as far as winning, rounds against them he. Loses
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: rounds early and, to the point even BEFORE that fight
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: i just mentioned he was going against this is when,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: he first started he was going against, a local, fighter
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: you know like, a club fighter and for about a
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: round and a half to two rounds his club fighter
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: was giving. Him the business but then he settled in
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: and you. Know all that but, my POINT is, ALTHOUGH i,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: CAN i can i can point Two deficiencies in fandora
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: because there are a fair amount The way tim zo at.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: His best fights is he, gonna be, meant you know
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: because he has, to come forward he. Has to jab
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: we saw him getting knocked down get. Right back up yeah,
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: that was then though it was a couple. Of years
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 1: ago that Was at the. Army again too but like
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 1: the way he has to win the fight. Does worry
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: me it does weary me because he really is gonna
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: have to go through punishment and he's right in front
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: of the guy and sure he'll move his head a
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: little bit, too or whatever but he's he's got. A
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: good job i like the way he mix, his punched
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: up go, to the body plenty of, body, to hit
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: right because the dude's, a you. Know a tree but
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: that's The thing that i'm worried About picking tim zoo
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: is how he has to win and will he be
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: to go? Through? That PUNISHMENT right but i Am going
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: tim zu, for the win just looking, at it here,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: like you said and this is a couple. Of Days
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: ago but fondora plus one, eighteen in general. Just straight
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: up fundora by decision Plus two ninety ferndora by knockout plus.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: Three Point thirty tim zu by knockout plus one sixty
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: one by decision plus. Two seventy five that's a. Pretty
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: BIG disparancy so i am gonna, go By. Decision tim
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: zuo BUT that's what i like, about THIS fight because
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: i think both arguments. Could BE had, AND i. Am
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: i am It seems like fondora he's already proven he
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 1: can bounce back and he, CAN you know, I don't,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: KNOW i am i am a little worried because, like
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: you said said how that fight went and it and
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: remember after he didn't know where. He barely was, he's like,
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Shock you know so.
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 2: He's more vulnerable i'm not saying he's, getting knocked out
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 2: but that's just the, Way it is like that's the,
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 2: way the works and people, Don't realize that like he's
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 2: more vulnerable to get get, knocked out. Now you Know
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 2: of course fondora was after he got Taken out, by
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: mendoza too, But you know zoo really took a lot of.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: Shots plenty of positives in that Fight before from dora, got,
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 1: knocked out.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 2: Right he was dominating to, fight before.
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: That, and YOU know, like i said, They you know
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: i'm looking at. It right now one ninety four to
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: one seventy five was. The punch stats fandora laying, on
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: seventy five but almost forty four percent Landed for tim,
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: zoo overall punches not. Even power punches, so you know
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's. A good one it's. A good one
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: i really that that's.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 2: It should BE a good i mean it should be.
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 2: A good fight i mean it is a. Good, intriguing.
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 1: FIGHT yeah yep i think it's gonna be. A fun,
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: FIGHT you know. I don't, Know we'll see we'll see how, it,
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: plays out obviously and then we have A, Rematch with Fierra.
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: Fierro and cruz, speaking of punches two forty eight to. Two,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: thirty eight uh these dudes are just gonna. Get it
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: in that's. What's gonna happen they're Gonna you think cruz,
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: can you know win by a better margin and make
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: everyone think he actually won or do you think it's
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: JUST a good tv fight and it's gonna? HAPPEN and,
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: whatever i mean where where you at?
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: With? THIS fight Yeah i think cruise. SHOULD win, THIS
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 2: i mean i didn't know if we needed. THIS one, again,
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 2: i mean, yeah, you know yeah He, stumbled AGAINST valenzuela
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: BUT i think i, THINK this One I think Cruse i.
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: THINK cruise Will i think cruise. WILL win this i.
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: JUST think agree i think it'll just be a fun.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 1: Fight to watch hopefully they can live up. To it
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: somewhat and then, we, also have hey we do have
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: a free, well not free but we do have a
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: subscriber fight On his Own bam and Kafu and then.
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: Pacheco and mccumbe a, lot of, people you know rated
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 1: mccumby high after, the plant thing but we've we've have
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 1: conversations about that here. On the podcast and will we
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: find out actually mccumby it was more plant faded than
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 1: mccomby that good or do you think this is a
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: good test because we know he'll mix It up with
• 2:06:39
  Speaker 1: pacheco or DO you THINK i think.
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: I think BOTH i think i think both of these fights.
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: Are Being overrated the, But You, KNOW bam, RODRIGUEZ i
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: mean i think he's. TOTALLY for real i think he.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 2: Is that good but when, you get low you got
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 2: too many weight classes more so than even, the upper
• 2:07:02
  Speaker 2: divisions and, too many belts and they're they're taking guys
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 2: that have a belt that band is, clearly superior to
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: and then people who get too far the other. Way
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 2: on this we don't pay attention to. The little guys
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 2: they overrate, fights like this YOU know, What i mean
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: like This is NOT Yeah. It's vam, rodriguez you know
• 2:07:23
  Speaker 2: he's in a. Lower weight class he's a legit top
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: ten pound. FOR pound guy i. Think that too but
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: this isn't, a good fight right just because this guy's got,
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 2: an alphabet, belt you know because this guy's got an,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 2: alpha that belt and you know that that's where you
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: get too. MUCH of, that, i mean, like YOU know
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 2: so i don't think that's that good, of a fight
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: and odds reflect. That going IN and then i think
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: it's what you. SAID with McCombe i mean McCombe yet
• 2:07:50
  Speaker 2: he had a no but you look at who he
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 2: fought before playing it was it. WAS absolutely. NOBODY i
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: don't i just, think it's, More you know plant might,
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: be somewhat faded and, we, Saw that RIGHT AND so
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: I i think i'm not As sold on i'm not
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: As sold on pacheco. As some people but with, THAT
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 2: part understood i think.
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 1: He just blows because isn't a. TEST for him i
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a. Test at all maybe some. Early
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: round stuff and then it's over, maybe you know. Something like,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: THAT but, YEAH i agree.
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: I THINK he's gonna i think he's gonna take.
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 1: Him out early it's. Just a hardcore the hardcore is, know,
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 1: Him now right, so, it's hey dude but PLAN it's like,
• 2:08:35
  Speaker 1: i hear you but look at play and pull the
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 1: trigger in, his last fight in, his last, fight, you.
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: Know right and the way he, was fighting McCombe it
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 2: wasn't even the way he.
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: Would, normally fight no he like underestimated a big time.
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: Because he, was you know which is a side, of being, faded,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 2: you know yeah not being able and we we definitely
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: saw it again present as really if you look at,
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: plants last too he can't box like he. Used, To
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 2: IT yeah, LIKE i said i compared him to like
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: a kind Of Like. A roy jones some of the style,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: not as good but like refles are, just not, there.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 1: You know yep and that is speaking, of you know
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: reactions and speed and coordination and. All that, that you
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 1: know he needs that to be at the tippy top
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 1: level to, show his style, which you know he had
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: his time and he gave me a good fight and
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: then you know He gave but benavidez, a good fight
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 1: and he's, a respected fighter but those, days, are.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: Gone yes EXACTLY and so i think, you know this
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: this should be a setup, for, YOU know, Really i
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 2: mean bam should Look good and pacheco should look GOOD
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: at THESE i don't i don't think these two fights
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 2: are going.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: To Be competitive so BAM's wrapped up in a sanctioning
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: body special that, is, really right, right exactly. RIGHT that's
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 1: FAIR i think i think. You're, right up, okay REAL
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: quick because i know we've been, A LITTLE long so
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 1: i Meant Earlier, about turkey. Sadi the ring all that
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 1: we get riat. Season twenty thirty we understand what. You're
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 1: building to we understand you're building for your, G, You
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 1: know gdp we get. All that stuff but if you're
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 1: actually trying to make a dent and you have What you,
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: had saturday night which were a, GREAT quadruple header i mean, that,
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: was fun right and a lot of different type of
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: fans could look at that, and, be like dude that was.
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 1: Some good, scraps you know it was a good. Night
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 1: of fights there's just no. Way. AROUND it, now i,
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 1: noticed you know we know that the zone In, SOME
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: territories japan, uk you KNOW in the uk they do
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 1: have some good football slash soccer rights and they just got.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 1: Some MORE too and i wouldn't doubt if that ten
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: percent that they just that billion they Just put in sadi, bought,
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: Those rights Right that's. What I'm guessing so i'm seeing
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: that they bought the rights for this tournament, that just
• 2:11:01
  Speaker 1: happened that a certain somebody. Took the trophy but we
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: won't go we, won't go there we. Won't go THERE
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: but but i saw the zone BEING advertised ON Tnt
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: and hbo max and down to the damn microphone talking over,
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: and over again and they had. His own thing and
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: so they have, a deal obviously right and so, and
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: YOU know MAYBE t and t got into this because
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: they're Getting In, the french open they're getting to the
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: college football playoffs because we know they DON'T, have the
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 1: nba so they have some extra money and they want
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: to keep their. Sports, vibe going now maybe it's a
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 1: time by to start and it turns into a Licensing
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 1: fee or john just a, small licensing fee just, a
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 1: small one because everything is small when it comes to
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: the revenue in this space. That, he's got anyway you're not,
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: Making MONEY anyway so i think whether it's time by
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 1: or maybe even you could get them to pay you
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit just so you have that bottom. Line
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 1: of something because they put the damn pay per view
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel forty, eight hours later you're just
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 1: killing any kind of sales, you're gonna. Have you know
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: so if, you're doing that then either stream it on,
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 1: YouTube for free, or you know make A Deal with HBO. Max,
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: AND tnt yeah i, MEAN Right. Now hbo max you
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: know it GOT rebranded COMBINE Hbo. And hbo max one
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty, two, million global right this is as
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 1: first quarter. Twenty, twenty five okay they have fifty four
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: right around fifty MILLION. In the US and then tnt.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: Does live? Sports why not why should your smallest audience
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be when it's, Live right right and now we're
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: gonna look, at those numbers some of the numbers that, they,
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: you know uh two days later when they, put THEM
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 1: on like I saw the shiraz fight at like, three
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand, and that's great. That's all fine you can, still,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: do that right you can. Still do that maybe you
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 1: wait five days or a week like they USED to On, hbo,
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: or showtime right but just something like that where you're
• 2:13:19
  Speaker 1: not even spending a ton of money to get the
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 1: time by or to take the. Little licensing fee Imagine
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: That card john STRINGING Live on hbo max AND live on.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: CNC that, night i mean that would be. Pretty fucking.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 1: Cool you know that's that's.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: The Kind of thing design's been missing. From the, beginning
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: you know THEY needed that us traditional outlet combined with
• 2:13:43
  Speaker 2: what they were doing because they can't get can't get
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: the exposure enough, on their own can't advertise it enough,
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 2: on their own and then they just DON'T have. Enough
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: us subscribers. They, never have.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah they've never gone over a million SUBSCRIBERS in the
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 1: us right at, least boxing fans because they've never released
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: they've never it's always world, numbers with them you know
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 1: when they say, it's always.
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 2: Right and the streamers KNOW the, Real us Numbers like
• 2:14:16
  Speaker 2: even netflix, started doing that Like With, The tyson paul
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: like they're given World numbers, and, i'm like dudes you
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 2: KNOW what the us. Numbers were streaming it's. Not a
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 2: guess it's there's actually a bean counter that knows EXACTLY
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 2: how many us streams, there.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: Were so and you know that night, probably you know
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: even as.
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: Much, as that hit there's always a little part of,
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 2: me that Says why did netflix Never release the i've
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: NEVER seen a.
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 1: Us number on it's always been an estimation, or a,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: lie you know some kind. Of mumbo jumbo it's always.
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: Been a world it's always been, a world, Number You know, and,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: i'm like well why aren't you GIVING us? The?
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 1: Us, number impressions, okay you, know either. Way it's good it, did,
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: A lot yeah.
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 2: I mean you could. Just FEEL it but, i, still
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: like well why aren't you, given it's more of course
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: than any other boxing. Has been getting don't, get ME
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: wrong but i still why aren't you giving ME the
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 2: because i, need that, BAROMETER you know i, need, to, know,
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 2: like like who how many PEOPLE in the us? Then
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 2: are seeing it's gonna matter because we've got the one
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: good thing she's doing Is we, got canelo there so
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: he should be. Doing that more but at least on.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: The big one, he's, Got.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: That right, so it's, crazy you know maybe, that'll, be
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: like hey, Wait a second i'm doing, this all.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: Backwards, you know yeah. IT'S absolutely critical i mean that,
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 2: that you know We Had the, Tailor surranta three, so
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: ONE down and i like the. PRODUCTION and everything i
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: don't know what. THE numbers were i haven't seen, a
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: number yet, but you know then the next big, one we,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: Got You know canelo. Crawford a couple.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: The number they released was almost six million, live viewers
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 1: worldwide in FOUR point two. Us live viewers that's. What,
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: they released.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: Okay that's low. For that platform that's SLOWER than what i.
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: Would have thought but even if you cut, it in
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: half it's still two million peaking, At two million.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: But it's still much more than any. Other fights getting
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 2: and that that's what. We're talking about so like what.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 1: You have to again and a half, if you want
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: if you, don't, believe it cool let's cut. It in half,
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 1: still damn, Good you KNOW.
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 2: And like, i always say what you have to then
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: keep in mind is That That makes Katie Taylor and
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: amanda serrano more valuable than all kinds of other fighters
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 2: mail and a lot of people. Don't, get that like
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: once you get, seen like that you're so far above
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 2: everybody else in boxing that you carry that value the rest.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 2: Of your career there's no.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: Doubt about it we've seen it time, and time again
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 1: even if IT'S on, the b side. We've seen it
• 2:16:51
  Speaker 1: So If if brandon figueroa Has Problems, with joe gonzalez is.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: That, a problem yes that's A problem because gonzalez has
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 2: been in, some entertaining scraps but normally his m is
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 2: he loses when he's fighting somebody at. An upper level
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: so you know that's what they're going for, with this
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 2: Fight is that gonzales can usually give you, a good
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 2: fight but. He's gonna lose so that's the way this
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: is supposed to Go. For free garowa so does good or.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: Rally or, something you're right, he always try he always
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: keeps it kind of.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: Tight, or whatever right but, you know this this this
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: is A fight that figureo is. Supposed, To, win yeap
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: yes so, you know entertaining but you know it would
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 2: be a big Upset if, if, Gonzales WON right but, i,
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: did not, like you know that was. A head scratcher
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: i mean that, was you know you get a, lot,
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 2: of ones RIGHT but one i did feel wrong, about,
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: was like man His performance in fulton too was. Just,
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 2: not GOOD yeah Figure i mean fulton's, a good fighter,
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: but like that that was just. Not a good that
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: was not. A good performance it's kind it back, to
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 2: me now, like you, know, thinking like yeah that was
• 2:18:02
  Speaker 2: not that was.
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: Not seen him in the, ring before, too you know
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 1: with the same fighter that you can look at, The
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: you know fulton is the guy who was the one
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: not looking good, in, two, fights right well it's one, thing, against,
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 1: anyway okay fine but then he came back and didn't look,
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: good at all got dropped again, and was like.
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: You KNOW so and i personally thought that even though it,
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 2: WAS real Tight i thought figueroa won. The FIRST fight
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 2: so i was horribly Disappointed by figure o in that
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 2: matchup Rematch, Credit to, fulton but yeah there is a question,
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 2: Because of that like Even though It's, joe at gonzalez, like,
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 2: you know hey it happens at the, lower weights, especially
• 2:18:44
  Speaker 2: you know his figurero. On a downside i'm not saying,
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: he necessarily.
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yes because it's not why it's it's it's not wide,
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: for boxing, standards you.
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: Know and he's taken a. Lot of, shots you Know
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 2: he chose he's a guy that probably could have fought in,
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 2: a different style but he never or has and he's already.
• 2:19:02
  Speaker 2: Taken the shots so you know that damage is there
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 2: that you. Cannot do, that so yeah it's kind of
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 2: like a figure always got, has trouble here there's questions
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: and maybe what.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: He's, GOT left Yeah I saw jake Paul sniffing Around
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: badu jack son Sniffing around body jack. You, mentioned earlier,
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: UH you know i do Think like bird langa would
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: be a good, opponent for, him you know as far
• 2:19:38
  Speaker 1: as what he's looking To, do obviously, badu you know
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: if he, wants a belt, you know what do you
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 1: think body has enough? To Beat him though.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: I'm taking shots, and your guy he's in, his, FORTIES now,
• 2:19:57
  Speaker 2: right i MEAN you know i Would think, WITH badu
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 2: though i still just, got too much too much. High
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 2: level experience i'm still going.
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: To, BE old yeah i will fight with a split. Down,
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: HIS head YEAH i mean i would think even at.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 2: His, AGE and condition i think he's just had too
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 2: much high LEVEL experience that i Just don't think paul.
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: Could do it you got an age, gap and everything
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 2: but that, wouldn't to me that wouldn't seem to be a.
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 2: WAY to, Go i mean i'm berlin with with him Get.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 2: Blown away saturday he just jumps out, at to, me,
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 2: it's like okay this could. Be, the guy.
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: Plus it would be Perfect, for him, berlanga because, hey,
• 2:20:41
  Speaker 1: HE'S like dude i, can do this and he would go,
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 1: up and wait but then all, of a. Sudden he
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: is he'd be putting on, like twenty pounds like it's.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 1: A little funky that's not. Just, jumping eight no.
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 2: It's not EXACTLY that's what i, mean exactly right he's at, least,
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: that actually yeah because even IF you go i always
• 2:20:56
  Speaker 2: go on the, original eight analysis but even if you
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: go original, eight and hours he would be the equivalent
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: of a light heavy going up.
• 2:21:03
  Speaker 1: To, heavyweight heavyweight yeah.
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: And that's it that was always the historically that was
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 2: the toughest jump in, hill, was, Yeah.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: Yep yeah so there was a lot of small heavyweights.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: Right right exactly, so you know even though It's Not
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 2: that jake, paul's a monster but still he's been fighting
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 2: over the light the old one seventy five or the current.
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 2: Light heavyweight Limits, so for berlanga that, would, be like
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's what i'm, looking, At too right it's like
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: moving up from even in traditional classes from like light.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 2: Heavy to. Heavy that's it that's the, toughest jump traditionally.
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: So, that works yea with a little bit of movement
• 2:21:36
  Speaker 1: stuff that We've seen, from jake lately that could win
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 1: him to fight just jabbing HIM moving and.
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: I really could with Really. Could, with berlanga, yeah pot.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: SHOT jab move i think that. Could, be possible, Yeah
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 1: all right well anything else that you'd. LIKE to discuss
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 1: i mean we definitely.
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: Covered, A lot yeah i Think we've covered IT'S just as,
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 2: i said before it's it's like kind, of a shame but,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: for boxing. Purists IT'S good like i do think at
• 2:22:05
  Speaker 2: where we're, at in Boxing This this usk dubois is
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 2: one of the best fights that, could be made and.
• 2:22:11
  Speaker 2: It's been, made you know we don't. Need undisputed hype.
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: Usik's the champ there, is no dispute, no legit dispute
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: so no MATTER what, the ibf says so it's for.
• 2:22:22
  Speaker 2: The heavyweight title it's just it's a shame that it's
• 2:22:25
  Speaker 2: pay per view and where boxing IS, in the us
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: this fight particularly just HAS absolutely no. Us, sensibilities unfortunately.
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah and and, then you know like just the, pay
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 1: review stuff the three pay per views in this, in,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: a week right and the crazy thing is that's the
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: second time we've. Had it already we're halfway, Through, The
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 1: year john we've already had Because remember Late, april to
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 1: may those Back To back friday saturday shows and then
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 1: you go back a week That was You, bank and
• 2:23:01
  Speaker 1: men So we had when does that ever happen where
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: we have three pay per views in a seven day
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: stretch twice already through half, Of the year it's.
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 2: Probably never happened and unless you're.
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 1: Talking about those discount ones that are ten or twenty
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: or something back in the.
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 2: Day or, something even then though they weren't doing, them
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: that frequently they were doing those like, once a, Month
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 2: you know like.
• 2:23:24
  Speaker 1: The highest we got was about twelve or fourteen we
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 1: did one YEARS. Ago on hbo that's about as. High
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 1: WE got but i. Do never KNOW, and even ufc
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: who loves to, do payer views they at least put
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: at least a three week, buffer or something YOU know, what, I.
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: Mean right yeah and they won't do like, twelve a,
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: year you know they'll do like.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: All short of.
• 2:23:45
  Speaker 2: Twelve a year so. Now it's terrible, the only positive
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 2: there's nothing, positive about IT except that i saw more
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 2: people speaking out This, weekend, about, yeah yeah yeah like
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: rather than people rationalized for and like well we're hardcore.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 2: And all that like now people, were just saying like,
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 2: what you said three pay per views in a short,
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: period of, time it's ridiculous, sports killing itself, Which, it
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: is yeah whatever's, left of it and you're not surviving
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: as a, sport like this. WHICH you're not i. Mean
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 2: you're not so this stuff's all being buried from. Most
• 2:24:22
  Speaker 2: people's view.
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 1: AND at, least i mean how Many of the saudi
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 1: slash his own pay per views have even hit? TWO hundred, THOUSAND.
• 2:24:34
  Speaker 2: I MEAN i just i gotta be thinking they're just
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 2: they're just not doing ANY kind.
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: OF us numbers i mean even one hundred, And fifty
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: thousand like it's because we know that's. The last decade
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 1: that's a tough number.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: TO get to i DON'T think they're i don't think.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 2: They're hitting that i'm just going to. TAKE a, GUESS i.
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 2: Mean I don't it's i think it. IS that bad
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: i wouldn't think they're doing. ONE hundred THOUSAND i, mean
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: i don't.
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: And some of them. THEY definitely, haven't i mean we've
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: seen how hard, it is is even WHEN you have
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: espn top rank trying to do like two of. Them
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: or whatever it's hard to get to. Two hundred thousand
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 1: and it's. Been that way We saw glove can and
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: uh Uh glove Can Now no ward coble that couldn't
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: get like, the legit fights couldn't get to. Two hundred
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: thousand you Need like a Gervante or a spence, or
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 1: you know just to, get over that just to get
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 1: to two fifty three hundred. Three fifty, tops you know It's,
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: tough besides, canelo you.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 2: Know, But yeah exactly and and that's Why, guys like
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: fury even though it wasn't, what we hope that's Where
• 2:25:37
  Speaker 2: guys Like fury and wilder had value that people weren't
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 2: even giving. Them credit for like try to do the
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: eight hundred and fifty thousand now like that, those guys
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: did try to do.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 1: Three fights to add.
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 2: UP to, exactly i mean look where we are just a.
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: FEW years, later i, mean you know so you need guys, like, that.
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: Rating right sure it's like the, Definition.
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 2: Of. It john yeah and you know when you're running
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: guys out there that haven't had the exposure and trying
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: to do, it with them it's like It's a suicide mission.
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 1: Nop and that could have even if it hit A,
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: million on tnt, oh my god like, that'd be, great
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: you know and imagine all this. Social media, stuff you,
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: know it's right it's, just. A bummer man that's kind
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 1: of what you need to get.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 2: It BACK out, and i, agree you know we, can
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 2: wrap up, but it's like and That's where Again taylor
• 2:26:33
  Speaker 2: and serrano still is, what, you need right you gotta
• 2:26:36
  Speaker 2: we're so FAR down. In, us boxing yeah you got
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 2: to get people out there where at least like over
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 2: a million people. ARE watching, it i, mean you know
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 2: just to, get something going and you're not going to
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 2: get in that with these, pay per views and you really.
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 2: Need a guy it's hard now, even you know except
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 2: For like a stevens and people weren't even DOING it on.
• 2:26:56
  Speaker 2: Espn so regularly so like that's how. Bad it, is
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 2: you know, you need, like all right so Tail. Or
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: in serranta we're, in the millions which we'll not, even
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 2: get late but you need you just need a lot
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 2: of that to get to get the. Sport, back going.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah and most of the time it was A, leading from,
• 2:27:12
  Speaker 1: espn you know a leading the game that people complained
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 1: about but that thing helped, them a. Lot you, know
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: all right john it's good. Talking, To, you hey July
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: we said july is gonna be fun and, in some,
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: ways you, know, fight wise anyway.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of.
• 2:27:30
  Speaker 1: Shit going on, so that's yeah.
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: That's that's what if there's one bright spot quite the pay,
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: per view stuff it's at least the month. HAS been,
• 2:27:38
  Speaker 2: interesting i mean we had months that weren't even, interesting
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 2: before this.
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: And, you're like august like this.
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 2: Month is interesting it just does get your enthusiasm.
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 1: Going, like, that yeah, Yeah, all right johnny you have, a.
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: Good night Man, you take chris have.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: A good one. Enjoy the fight read, That, BOOK too yeah.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: I believe it i recommend that one can get great reviews,
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: at THE time but i think, it's become forgotten slipped.
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: Under the radar there's a lot of really good stuff
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: in there that just doesn't get. Talked about anymore so
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 2: it's definitely.
• 2:28:09
  Speaker 1: Worth a read it's funny that you bring it up
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 1: at my used buckstore looking. For something else he came across, the,
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: boxing said, AH five bucks i bet your, crystal like,
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: this and, boom you, know, so, YEAH.
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 2: Call yeah i actually do recommend reading.
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 1: That, Definitely, all right johnny you, take it, Easy all.
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: Right, chris who too take care ye have, a good,
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 2: one you?
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: Too all right and just to wrap, it, up here
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: oops just to wrap, this puppy up, so you know the.
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: Body jack thing it sounds like he made an agreement.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: With his mandatory now it wasn't before. The first bid
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: now wasn't an agreement like a step. Aside or not
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: It Sounds like don, king, was like hey show, Me
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: the Money laila a lee willing To fight to laris
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: the shields for a. LOT of money i heard something
• 2:29:02
  Speaker 1: like you're talking about ten, or FIFTEEN million but i
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: don't see. THAT happening less, I guess well I would,
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: Say turkey, money saudi money but they don't do a
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: whole lot, of WOMEN'S fights so i think that would
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: be the only way that. Would be, going The sparring.
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: THE turkey sparring i DON'T know why i just Called it.
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: THE turkey sparring i don't think that's. What it was
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 1: but he live stream clearly he was trying to take
• 2:29:29
  Speaker 1: attention Away From the. Friday Night card but i'm torn,
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: because you know people do spar and. Don't get paid
• 2:29:42
  Speaker 1: but if you're, GONNA stream it. I don't know i
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: haven't heard that. Anybody got paid maybe they. Got little
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: money if you're gonna stream it and make it it
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 1: some some, FORM an event i wouldn't mind if they got. A,
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: LITTLE money well i wouldn't mind if he got a fair.
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: Amount of, money but people you do have to realize that,
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: people you know spar for free a. Lot of times now, you,
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: could say, well you know some people are sparring in
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: camp and it's not free because, you're getting paid that
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: your sparring partner might be getting, probably getting paid and
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: you gotta, fight coming up so you're. Gonna Get paid
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: but i'm just saying. Sparring in, general you know we're
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 1: talking about just. Sparring IN general so i. DIDN'T mind
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: it i. Don't mind it i'm not clutching my person or.
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 1: Nothing like that.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 1: Gonna pause, That but Yeah babraham and ericson if that
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 1: FIGHT on a, pbc card whatever it'd be nice if
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 1: it was a JUST straight up pbc card And, They
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 1: put Oshaki foster and fulton, Together with that, oh my
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: god that'd be a great. DOUBLE ladder side i really
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: hope they get, that fight done sign me the fuck up. For,
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 1: That fight okay i'm Gonna End. On, gervonte davis okay
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 1: So you know gervante continues to find himself. In, these,
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 1: scenarios okay now? Oh, Real Quick uh francisco rodriguez got
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: busted RIGHT with a vada. Test adverse findings dude landed
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 1: well over five hundred punches.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: ON ya faia i.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 1: Feel so bad for. THAT that guy i, already felt
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: bad but look at five seventy five out of one
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 1: thousand and. Eighty seven punches now he Landed to thirty you,
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 1: fight at it but he landed fifty over half of. His,
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: Power shots. Dude holy Shit And didn't francisco rodriguez have
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit of an issue before THIS too if. I, Remember,
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 1: correctly anyway Sorry. Back to gramonte, the THING is as
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 1: i said at the beginning. Of the, show you know
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: there's times where a story comes out and it's a, celebrity,
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: or whatever right, it's a politician it's it's, a public
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 1: figure and it actually turns out to be worse than.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: You first thought it's? Like whoa, what and, then of
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 1: course on, the flip side, to be honest there's times
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 1: where it's a nothing burger, and you're like what the?
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: Hell you know and it and. It just it the person,
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: didn't do anything the. Charges get dropped there's also times
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: where the chargers, don't get dropped but then. They, get
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 1: dropped uh and it's a civil suit or it's it's
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: a it's just to pay you off and. It, Goes
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: away right so it happens not, just in sports but, we're,
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 1: in boxing right so that, this stuff happens whether it's
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: an altercation male. Female. Or fighting whatever, the POINT is
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: it's i can't sit there and tell you. Exactly what.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 1: Happened you know allegedly he assaulted his ex girlfriend outside
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: of Her, HOME in, durrell i believe. And you know
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: the report goes, on to, say you know a course
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 1: and it was, a month later a few, weeks. Later
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 1: too right according, To, the rest davis who Currently Lives,
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: in coral springs Was Taken Into customy miami beached And
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 1: Transported To. Durell police department the report states that the
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 1: incident question happened The night. Of, June fifteenth right so
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: they were in a romantic, relationship for years two children,
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: And all that Right said the davis went to go
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: pick up The Children, for father's day but a verbal
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 1: altercation between him and the, victim en suit which allegedly
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 1: escalated to physical. You know altercation according, To the report
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 1: davis told the ex girlfriend to remove their children from
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 1: the car and no longer intended. To take them, but
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: that's where accordingly to the according, to The report allegedly, davis,
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 1: you know basically when she went to go retrieve their
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 1: daughter from, The, Back seat allegedly davis struck her in
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: the back of the head and then slapped her, in
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: the face causing a minor cut to the inner area.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 1: Of her. Lip police said the victor him then sent
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: text message to her mother informing her, that you know he,
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: was assaulting her asking her. To come outside the victim's
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 1: mother then exited the residence saw her daughter visibly distressed Crying.
• 2:35:14
  Speaker 1: While argument davis according, to the report the victim's mother
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: film part of the altercation on, the cell phone And
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 1: it showed davis throwing a small box. At, the victim
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 1: now was it just a small box or was it
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: exactly what? The report says was? It even worse? WAS
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: it less? I, don't know okay and that's he was
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: arrested on. A, battery charge okay.
• 2:35:40
  Speaker 2: So you know.
• 2:35:43
  Speaker 1: Is there cameras in the front of the house where they?
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: Were assumingly anyway will that? Say something? ELSE you know,
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know but the point is you could, at
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: some point like if YOU'RE and, LIKE i, SAID i.
• 2:36:01
  Speaker 1: DON'T i don't i haven't. Seen the footage haven't seen
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: camera footage if, it you know whether it's a cell
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: PHONE or, like i said camera's, on the house. Haven't
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: seen IT so if i, say something like why don't
• 2:36:16
  Speaker 1: you just leave once, the, argument starts cool just roll
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: up your window and leave and go spend time. With
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: their kids that sounds like. A logical thing but. We
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 1: don't know we don't know, if what, happened YOU know
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 1: AND i and i hate to keep taking BOTH sides
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 1: and i, don't know though. That's The point and i've
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: just learned over the years that you just wait and
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 1: see what all. The evidence is, but either, way you
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: know so? Will, he fight well, he's he's, out you
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: know so there's a good chance he. Can, still fight
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 1: now maybe some of his past stuff could get mingled
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: in this different states. AND all that. I don't know
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: you know some of. THE judge stuff. I don't KNOW
• 2:37:04
  Speaker 1: but would i be surprised, If, HE fights. NO i
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: would i. WOULDN'T at, all i mean in the last,
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: year or two we've seen people fight that have some
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: other stuff. Jermeal, Or Sorry yeah jermale charlow is probably gonna,
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: fight this year and he has some stuff that as
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: far as if the voice recording is real that he
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: did something straight up and admits, it on tape, if
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: THAT tape, like i, said IS real which i, assume
• 2:37:38
  Speaker 1: IT is but. I Don't know so gervante continues. To
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: do this he's talked about how he needs help and that,
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: he needs, to you know talk about retiring because he
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: can't like he needs a certain level of whatever. Anger
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: and boxing but he also was he clearly admits he's got.
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: An anger issue so and you know what we have
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: seen and some of the decisions he, chose to make
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: like the like the last thing he got in trouble
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: for in the hit and run and. All that stuff
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: and obviously we saw him at. A basketball game although
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: people try to make it look like, he choked her
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 1: he man handled some a. Female in public so your
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 1: mind goes right to, behind closed doors what happens there
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 1: if he's willing. To do that But that's all. I'M
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: gonna say i don't know what ultimately this. IS gonna
• 2:38:49
  Speaker 1: COME i got i. NEED more information i can't just.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: One side it, but, you know generally where there's enough
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: smoke of fire there means. It's A fire. SO i
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: don't i don't know though. In This scenario so i'm
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: not GONNA act. Like i do i'm very, against you know.
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: Domestic violence obviously well we'll see how. This plays out
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: but as far, as him fighting a lot of people
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: just assume he's. Not, gonna FIGHT maybe. BUT i wouldn't
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: i wouldn't just, H you know i wouldn't. JUST assume
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 1: that i wouldn't assume. That at all he. Definitely could
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 1: fight i'm gonna get. Out, of here okay hang on
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 1: a Couple of, Boxing Twitter Stuff So undisputed, boxing Game
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 1: said so taylor, showed Great boxing but shakor. Is A
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 1: runner katie taylor threw two thirty one punches and landed
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 1: seventy and. She's Getting praised hani Now, IT'S hany okay
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: haini threw two h twenty four and landed seventy y'all
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: tried to. Shit, On him okay so, first of all
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 1: there's two more rounds to land. And throw punches, second
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 1: of all there's a minute to each round more to.
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 1: Throw in land that kind, of you know that kind
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 1: of does. It for me, by The way the Hackett
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 1: elias or ELIAS ellis that i did see that in.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 1: THE sparring stuff i did like that in the, Uh You,
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 1: know kurt scobie What? Was it Austin Is it mike austin?
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 4: Something like that that was NASTY and, Like i Said And,
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 4: also walter Fury Cousin of, tyson fury upset he got
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 4: upset he.
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: Was knocked Off and also fred makes. A Good point
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 1: when floyd Showcased the dog house sessions on a, fight
• 2:40:54
  Speaker 1: build up it led.
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  Speaker 6: To the investigation by the END a s A See
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 6: No Bada State athletic commission turkey held unsanctioned bouse dressed,
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 6: up as sparring which featured legal blows and fighters being
• 2:41:09
  Speaker 6: knocked out for a chance to Be on.
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 1: A nevada undercard? WILL they, care i mean whether you
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 1: liked watching, it or not what he just. Said is
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 1: real that's. A good point that's a. Really good point
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 1: someone sent me The video of coppinger shaking his head
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: And Smiling when sabril mattias, won the fight like. Our,
• 2:41:37
  Speaker 1: guy won yeah he shook his, head, like yep yep like. He,
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 1: was happy now don't, Get me wrong i've seen a
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 1: lot on PRESS rout and i remember EVEN an off
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 1: tv bout or just a local fight THAT, wasn't ON
• 2:41:53
  Speaker 1: tv where I fully admitting i ooh in odd a
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 1: little bit too at, punches landed, right like, oh you
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 1: know as, A PRESS member So i admit i've done.
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 1: Some OF that and i remember there's this local guy
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 1: here that's really he's local famous on the, radio sports
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 1: radio and this mother effort, for good reason is staring
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: me down from across the ring like what? Are you
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 1: doing and he had every right, to do it but
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 1: it kind of put me in my, place, like oh.
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know it's one thing, to be like oh
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 1: that was, A great fighter oh that's. A Big shot
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 1: but i've seen people going way over fanboy. In press
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 1: row i've seen people drunk screaming. In press ROW so
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: so i can admit, some, Fault there right but when it's,
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 1: your paid jo. You're getting paid this is. Your one career,
• 2:42:52
  Speaker 1: you're in boxing your reporter for a ring and you're in,
• 2:42:56
  Speaker 1: the background, smiling going yup that was. Our guy on
• 2:43:01
  Speaker 1: that's just where we're. At right now that's. Where we're at,
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: by the Way According, to keith idac PBC's Looking into
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 1: scheduling august twenty third Of. Thirtieth in, vegas AND yeah
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 1: like I, MENTIONED al. Bernstein i felt he said he
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 1: felt compelled to do this Video about. The morell fight
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 1: i'm outraged. About the decision i'm more outraged about The
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 1: decision than i've been in years after, watching A fight
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 1: which i, BY the way i. Watched twice already if
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 1: You thought that morell, lost the, Fight that's fine but
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 1: to say That this outrage and it's Been years since
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 1: i've been this mad. At a fight what, But, come
• 2:43:47
  Speaker 1: on god, we, get IT dude the pbc, didn't you
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 1: know have? You on anymore, But come on and he's.
• 2:43:54
  Speaker 1: Done this before he's done this in minor stuff like
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: he made fun of, a studio shot didn't didn't say
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 1: the same thing about a to zone a week earlier or,
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 1: Something like that and both of. Them were true both looked.
• 2:44:07
  Speaker 1: Like bad production you know it looked like public access
• 2:44:11
  Speaker 1: Both Of them di ZONE, and the pbc but he
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: failed To mention that campbell hat and retires at the age.
• 2:44:18
  Speaker 1: Of twenty four, good, FOR him man. I like it.
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 1: Good For Him. Trill boxing magazine He Credits THE. Fight
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 1: Hub tv uh Hainy said that Ryan after the ryan
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 1: Rematch Fell through taoe. Femo. Fell through, uh, he said
• 2:44:35
  Speaker 1: YES the boots ns, at Forty seven but nis wanted
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 1: that one, fifty two catchweight so they didn't agree. On,
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 1: the wait. Interesting very interesting someone Someone on boxing twitter
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 1: Tried to put CHIRAZ In The uh antonio margarito talking,
• 2:44:57
  Speaker 1: about the, category talking, about you know his suspect hand
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: wraps and, Looking at, him it's like, here we.
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 2: Go.
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: Get dude cafu someone sent. THIS to me i can't
• 2:45:09
  Speaker 1: tell who who quote, Tweeted it said? Cafu is it.
• 2:45:13
  Speaker 1: Cafu can punch he, doesn't have bams polish or, well
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 1: rounded skills but he's unconventional. And, hits hard yeah. He
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 1: can punch THE unconventional thing i. Totally agree with there
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 1: is something to be, said ABOUT that but I just
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 1: don't i don't think there's much. More, Than That oh
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 1: abraham nova stepped In To Fight raymond ford august sixteenth
• 2:45:41
  Speaker 1: on another pay per view that shouldn't be. A pay
• 2:45:43
  Speaker 1: perview THIS is what i wanted. To Get to, So
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 1: Rodriguez fails francisco. Rodriguez Fails again any renoso has a
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 1: bunch of them all. Of A sudden now renoso said
• 2:45:54
  Speaker 1: he will no longer train or associate with fighters if
• 2:45:57
  Speaker 1: he can't oversee their. Nutrition, and supplements okay so we'll see.
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 1: WHERE that goes. I don't know, by the way tickets
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 1: Go on sale Thursday for That canelo. And crawford fight looking.
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: Forward To that eddie hearn Declared DEADLINE For Team u
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 1: bank junior. Twenty four hours bro or. We're moving, on
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 1: oh well you know it is. What It is jim,
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 1: Carross this okay so he's Talking about This laptin and
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 1: edmondson coming up in a handful Of days, on july,
• 2:46:38
  Speaker 1: Ninth excuse. ME july nineteenth i was actually looking in
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 1: the lap and. Not long, ago he says this is
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 1: a good matchup with the winner taking a. Big step
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 1: forward lapping IS someone who i think has a. Ton
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 1: of potential he's a walking mismatch at sixty Six trains
• 2:46:54
  Speaker 1: with usak looked feather fisted early, in his career but
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 1: the strength and power is. Coming along too now. He's,
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 1: the problem yeah it was actually just kind of checking
• 2:47:03
  Speaker 1: him out seeing that on The, schedule AGAINST edmonton and
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 1: i think they're BOTH undefeated if i.
• 2:47:08
  Speaker 2: Remember it Correctly so now.
• 2:47:10
  Speaker 1: I'll keep a sharper eye, on That, too because, KARA
• 2:47:13
  Speaker 1: you KNOW i just i a. Lot of, stuff you
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 1: know a lot of good stuff comes out.
• 2:47:19
  Speaker 2: Of that, ACCOUNT.
• 2:47:23
  Speaker 1: So Yeah i mean I've heard multiple I'm seeing These
• 2:47:27
  Speaker 1: lance pug meyers screenshot talking about conversation has Already happened,
• 2:47:32
  Speaker 1: if manny, Wins you Know. Floyd and nanny i'm. NOT
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 1: denying that i actually do think, it would happen but
• 2:47:44
  Speaker 1: you know it's don't think many. Can, Win it anyway
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 1: i'm gonna get, out of here enjoy the, fights this
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 1: week and we'll be.
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 2: Back at it