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Episode 5. The Floating Man & Rick Sanchez vs. Hubert Farnsworth · High n' Dry Podcast

• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: And then I was like, you can spin my mouth if you want to.
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, everybody, how are we doing today?
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  SPEAKER_02: This is uh high and dry.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm Ryan Barron North, and with me as always is resident cannabis enthusiast and pole inspector.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, former pole inspector.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_02: Former pole inspector.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: They only have elections once every how many times?
• 0:34
  SPEAKER_01: How often does it happen?
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: Seems to be happening all the time.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: I I did it in the past.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't this past election.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like way back in 2010, 2012.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'd done it a couple times.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's a lifetime ago.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_02: A lifetime ago.
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  SPEAKER_02: For those of you returning, thanks for coming back.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_02: Who are we looking at this week?
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: So we've had a couple, we just noticed that there's a couple followers in Mumbai who have been listening since the very beginning.
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  SPEAKER_00: Kudos to Mumbai.
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  SPEAKER_02: Congratulations, Mumbai.
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  SPEAKER_02: You've made High and Dry International.
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  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Mumbai.
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  SPEAKER_00: We love you.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, friends, family, Mumbai.
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  SPEAKER_02: Georgia.
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  SPEAKER_02: Georgia.
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  SPEAKER_00: Virginia.
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  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for joining us.
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  SPEAKER_02: For those of you who are familiar, um on High and Dry, we start the episode off by talking about some sort of moral problem.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then we finish it off with our verses match.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this week I'm pretty excited for the versus match.
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  SPEAKER_02: Coming up here in about 20 minutes, we have Hubert Farnsworth Farnsworth.
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  SPEAKER_02: I haven't even started drinking yet.
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  SPEAKER_02: Versus Rick Sanchez.
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  SPEAKER_02: Nehilism versus whimsy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm excited for it.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm excited too.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's going to be a good one.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think that we're going to have some surprising, surprising conversations about this one.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think some people may think it's lopsided, but it's not that lap sided.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, no, it's going to be good.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's going to be good.
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll see.
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  SPEAKER_02: You'll all see.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh this week, starting with our moral quandary, James, this time you got one for us.
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  SPEAKER_00: So uh this week we've got Avicina's floating man.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this thought experiment deals with the idea of consciousness.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the idea is there is a man who is floating in empty space, deprived of all senses of the outside world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Avicina puts forth that that person, because their consciousness still exists, they will recognize themselves even without outside stimulation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it reminds me of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy with Douglas at Douglas Adams Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where the whale forms in mid-air?
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is, I that I think that is this thought experiment.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is that whale forming in midair?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is uh because it has consciousness, does that mean that consciousness is separate from outside sensation?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it sounds like we have an interesting one.
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  SPEAKER_02: Before we get into it, on high and dry, before we start talking, one of us is going to be drunk and the other one's gonna be really, really high.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that's right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So James, wait, which one is which?
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  unknown: I don't know.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: Trade Zees.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: James, what are you gonna be smoking today?
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be smoking a wonderful Tanji concentrate.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: And no more telling at you what brands they are until they start paying me.
• 3:27
  SPEAKER_00: I've I've learned that I've been giving it away for free.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody mentioned it to me, and I was like, oh man, I have been doing that.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we're just every episode is one step closer to being able to write off weed and booze as a business expense.
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  SPEAKER_00: So close.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're so close, guys.
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  SPEAKER_00: Share it, make your friends download it.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: They don't even have to listen to it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, I uh I'm gonna be drinking here.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I don't want to give away the name, but you've seen it at every high school party you've ever been to back in the day.
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  SPEAKER_02: Made with vodka, infused with mangoes, and it's gonna taste just terrible.
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  SPEAKER_02: But I gotta get it off my counter.
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  SPEAKER_00: You got this, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: I believe in you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh hell.
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  SPEAKER_00: If high schoolers can do it, you can do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: If if if a if an overconfident junior can handle this, you can handle it.
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  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, round one.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: All right, that was a you got me all excited, and I was a little overzealous with that point.
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  SPEAKER_00: Too bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: Looks like you gotta do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, I'll take a big one.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, here we go.
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh god.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that was terrible.
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  SPEAKER_02: That means mango.
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  SPEAKER_02: Fake mango.
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  SPEAKER_00: God.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know the dominant terpene in most cannabis is mersine, which is also naturally occurring in mangoes.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, look at that.
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  SPEAKER_02: We were essentially doing the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_02: We are.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I was thinking about it on the way here.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just all this drinking.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I feel so over the uh course of my my life, I feel that there's three rules for any budding drinker.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_02: Never drink when you're sad, uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_02: Never drink when you're alone, uh-huh, and never drink straight out of the bottle.
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  SPEAKER_02: I've broken every last one of those things.
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  SPEAKER_02: Twice today.
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  SPEAKER_02: And every time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Every time it's like they're hard rules to follow, but at the same time, alcohol's a dangerous thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's super dangerous.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so you gotta you gotta respect it for the creature it is.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's a it's a tiger, and you know you gotta wrangle it just right.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: You don't want to get Siegfried or Roy, whoever.
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  SPEAKER_02: That's all man, it was Roy.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: It was Roy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think it was Roy.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, round two.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh god, this it's terrible.
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  SPEAKER_02: Someone put this in a bottle and said, nah, that's good.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_02: Send it out.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, everybody has different tastes.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, if you like mango infused vodka, you're you're alright by me.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I we're just very disappointed in you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's a fine.
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  SPEAKER_02: See, I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you I don't know if it's uh if it's real, but like you people talk about how like different types of alcohol bring out different moods in them.
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  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's real though.
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  SPEAKER_02: I like I I used to say that uh vodka tended to uh make me a little more uh angry.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-then like rum makes me very uh happier.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't say happy either.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: I mean euphoric.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think this is more about the perception that people go into it with.
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  SPEAKER_00: If they're like, oh, if I drink vodka, I'm gonna get angry.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_00: Give me some vodka.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're basically looking for a reason to be angry.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's the mindset they're going into with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're like, I'm going to be angry when I drink this, and so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: And so when I drink rum, I'm thinking I'm gonna be a pirate.
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  SPEAKER_02: And everything's just a lot more happy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, who knows?
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  SPEAKER_02: That might be.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because like I I started to develop that idea early on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: That vodka is gonna elicit a bad response.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I think that maybe I think that maybe we trick ourselves with stuff like that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Self-fulfilling prophecy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: All right, round three to Mumbai.
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  SPEAKER_02: God damn.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_02: Our next episode of High and Dry.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's see if vodka does make me angry.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, think happy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think happy thoughts.
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  SPEAKER_02: Rum.
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  SPEAKER_02: I just drank a bunch of the rum.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a pirate.
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  SPEAKER_00: You're a pirate right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm a pirate.
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  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so the floating man.
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  SPEAKER_02: You pop into existence in a state of being completely senseless.
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  SPEAKER_02: Senseless, detached from everything, um, like the falling whale in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I think we should talk about that real quick.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I I like the falling whale.
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  SPEAKER_00: The falling whale makes more sense.
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  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't make total sense because it under it seems to understand some things about its reality.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it pops in as a fully like it has the brain capability.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because like if you pop if you're born this way, it popped in as a baby.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Like, so I mean, there's a question, because even so me, I'm thinking back, is like trying to remember what it was like being a baby.
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  SPEAKER_02: No, impossible.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just eventually my mind catches to a point where, hey, I am here.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's an important distinction.
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  SPEAKER_00: So so the whale, first off, in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, has like a the brain of a human, like an adult human who understands like things about the world.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: And also it's falling, which means it's experiencing things, it gets to see things, it gets to experience things.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: I I like that, I like that that was in the same vein.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but this is a little different where the the person that came into existence has no sense of what's happening around them.
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  SPEAKER_02: So now are they born this way?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_02: They just pop into existence.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: They just pop into existence.
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  SPEAKER_02: So if I, as I am now, yes, were to pop into existence with no experience or life, but I still have the cognitive faculties of a working brain?
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is the question.
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  SPEAKER_00: Is the brain consciousness does a physical thing require conscious?
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  SPEAKER_00: Is consciousness separate from the physical form?
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  SPEAKER_00: Was what was what this philosopher was trying to prove.
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  SPEAKER_02: Would you ever so me just sitting there floating, feeling nothing, would I ever be able to say to myself, I am here?
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: I am a thing, yeah.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's hard to distinguish.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's a it's a great question.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's I think, therefore I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: But do you know that you are an entity if there are no other entities or objects to compare yourself to?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: As far as you know, you're everything.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if that's how God feels.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but but I think that we ascribe to God an agency.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: Would this would this consciousness even have agency?
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_02: That's a trippy thought though, if God to whatever you know religious thing you just whatever creature did all this is so incapable of anything.
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  SPEAKER_02: Detached totally detached floating there, and we are floating within it, and it's just sitting there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we we could just be floating within see see if you're created and you don't have any sense of anything else in the world, every bit of your consciousness is the entire scope of your understanding.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_02: Any deity, any world, any universe creating deity, that's how they started.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: So that's there, there's this an assumption that they so he just pops into existence and is like, this is how I want things run.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be a bunch of primates on this little rock over there in like billions of years, and they cannot touch themselves.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, yeah, that's exactly what yeah, that's perfect.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_02: They touch themselves, so help me me.
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  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so this con so that would be like if this consciousness for like this consciousness would have no one to argue with it.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: They would have no one to like make its consciousness like uh solidify.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I feel like the thing that gives us consciousness is when we try to interact with something.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's the interaction with the things around.
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  SPEAKER_02: See, I I could see it becoming like either this very zen kind of thing, or it would if all of a sudden it was able to interact with things, it would be a super dangerous thing with just such a warped sense of anything.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, think about it, it's like an entitled person gone wild.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: It's an entitled person, you know, you know, it's the kind of person we think of that has never been told no.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, because these a consciousness born without any kind of resistance to its own expansion, like the the premise is that this consciousness will discover itself.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_02: So it's not very love crafty and quick, fast, and in a hurry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um because we are really approaching this, we are really approaching this from a position of having seen great entitlement in our lifetime, and we know what happens when an entity isn't told no.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: You know, as the the writer, I am.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um you can visit my website, RyanBarenworth.com.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um as the writer, I am always looking for that sort of you know, I'm earlier, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, I'm now talking about Lovecraftian.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, one of the concepts in Lovecraftian horror is that this thing, so you're walking down the street, you James, walking down the street, you step on an ant.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you think about that ant for more than a fraction of a second before you just continue your day?
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is why I refuse to walk outside.
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  SPEAKER_00: I uh I'm carried on a litter.
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  SPEAKER_02: But but the act to you the act to you is neither good nor evil.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's just I stepped on that ant.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: And that's the same thought process that these creatures in Lovecraftian horror hold towards us.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because they've been allowed to grow and develop without any resistance because they are these impossibly powerful creatures.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_02: And so when they suddenly destroy the earth, yeah, they don't even it was a little dust ball that brushed off their sleeve.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: To us, I'm sorry, to them, we are a curiosity.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like if they spend any time on us, it's because they were curious.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_02: And that's it.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know what's funny is that's really mirrored in entitled people who live on this planet and destroy this planet and step on lives without being concerned very much about them at all.
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  SPEAKER_02: For some reason, we've collectively decided that they're the ones who should be in charge of everything.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_02: In charge of everything.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: But we're not here trying to go into that.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's what this entire thought experiment is about.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: I like this.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really glad I chose this one.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean But I mean, does it have we gone too far already?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: Because we're well well so but I mean the basis of the question, the consciousness portion of it.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_02: So you are just sitting there floating in nothingness, and you you don't know where your body ends and the universe begins, and you're just drifting.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: You don't even have a concept of the universe.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't have a concept of so if you don't have a concept of anything, can you even have a concept of yourself?
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think so, damn it.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think that you need to have some kind of interaction to build consciousness.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so I mean so our life, our life is essentially you open your eyes into consciousness one day of your first memory, and then eventually you close your eyes into consciousness out of consciousness at the end of it all.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Whenever that happens to be.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_02: If you opened your eyes into nothing, could you but then closed your eyes, would there be would you feel there's a difference?
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing, is I don't I don't think that consciousness is self-formed.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think that consciousness has to have you have to have an interaction before you can achieve consciousness.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: And if you do not have an interaction, if it is entirely removed from any other force, I don't think there's any place to build because we grow from struggle.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: When we have something put between us and a goal, when we have some kind of interaction, or even if something interacts with us in a positive way and and affects us, that is when we grow.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: And if there's no initiating force of growth, I don't think consciousness can form.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, is the is a thought experiment just talking about within that second?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: Because eventually you're gonna get hungry.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't have a body, so you that there is nothing physical.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: Your consciousness is just floating through space, just a thing floating through space with no interaction.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: There's not even a body.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: So because again, I'm trying.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: So I I think thinking back to yourself as a baby is the answer to this.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: But the babies even get interaction.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm saying that the babies who even get interaction.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: I was conscious, but to me, it was a period of time that passed, it's doesn't exist within my own head at all.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_02: But that might also just be because my brain isn't developed enough to hold on to things.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know if that counts.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't think but I I could see that it feeling the same.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what you're talking about is remembering, which I think is really important because you want to remember things.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want to remember?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: Your interactions with the world.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: What is there to remember or consider?
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_02: See, I was a very philosophical baby.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: None of this is real.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: I just wanted to remember my state of being.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't have object permanence yet, so no.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I was my so me as a baby, I'm sitting there and I'm like, I think, therefore I am.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_02: What does it mean?
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's how it all starts for every one of us, apparently.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: No, and that's that's how I was as a baby, without a doubt.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um, I I I vaguely recall questioning the flying man as an infant.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're not original, Avicenny.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's been all of us forever.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_02: Forever.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: That was everyone's first thought, Jackass.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_02: You're not special.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_02: If I were a whale popped into the air.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: We all have that thought.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, Jesus.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Give it a rest.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, I I think.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: So what's the final word?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_02: Final word.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: I do think no idea.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_02: I think what tie and dry podcast has to do is kidnap a baby and raise it in a sense deprivation chamber.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, great idea.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then ask it some questions.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's um that's 11 from Stranger Things.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's kidnapped as a baby and kept in a deprivation chamber and shit.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: You just you just wrote a hit TV show.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, well.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: We all had this thought.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we all had this thought.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, and that was what I did next as a baby was you know, started writing a screenplay.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you are you were playing in that screenplay your whole life.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_02: No, and I was one of those gifted babies that was destroyed by the public school system.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: All right, well, so James, what are your final thoughts on it then?
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_02: Because I I feel that I don't know.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: You feel that you know.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think I think that you feel you know a little bit more.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_02: So please.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I so my final thought is that I think something can never truly exist.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: Like in this case, it's positing consciousness, without some resistant force.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Because then existence is no different than non-existence.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_00: If there's if there's no force to interact with, then your existence is non-existence.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you're the only thing, there's nothing.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so high and dry.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: Um, that was the first portion.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, tonight we're gonna go out and we're gonna kidnap a baby.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_01: And uh we're not actually gonna kidnap the baby.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_00: The lawyers are telling me we have to we have to legally say that we're not gonna kidnap a baby.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_02: Legally.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, so there it is.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_02: High and dry, the only place where you can go to talk about kidnapping a baby.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um there's a lot of those podcasts, but usually the baby, the baby kidnappers aren't the hosts, they're like recounting some horrific crime, some baby kidnapping spree.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we're gonna see what this does to our viewers.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so next up, part two, high and dry.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, we're about to get into the versus match this week.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: We have Hubert Farnsworth versus Rick Sanchez.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: Guaranteed to really get that nerd clicking going.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_02: Only get on here to find that.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_02: Wait a minute, they aren't talking about it like I thought they were talking about it.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_02: What the fuck's a flying whale?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Hitchhiker's Guy, great, great uh book and movie.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_02: That's what your parents nerded out to.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, those book series it was Douglas Adams, right?
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_00: Douglas Adams, great author.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, Douglas Adams.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so before we get started.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_02: I hope that's right.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_02: You're good.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Douglas Adams.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: Hitchhiker's Guy to the Galaxy, 1978.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: Check it out at your local library.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Libraries everywhere.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: Send us money.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Funded by libraries.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we don't have much of a budget, but we really believe what you guys are doing.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: We believe in you guys.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Here's here's the I know this would have helped teach a kid to read, but you guys could use it more.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_02: All right, so here it is.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: Our fourth shot.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, this is too much.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_00: This tangy got me riff hard.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: Well, then it's guaranteed to give us some uh we're gonna get really deep into the topic of Rick Sanchez.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, I don't even know if I'm gonna remember who they are.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Let's give it a shot though.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_02: There we go.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: Round four.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: What's it to high and dry and to Mumbai?
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Mumbai again.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to Mumbai again.
• 21:48
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• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god, how many people live in Mumbai?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's gotta be a shit ton.
• 21:57
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• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: Because all of you are in the high and dry family, not just our listeners, all of Mumbai.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's every one of you.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: We love you all individually, and that is 18.4 million.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: The the high and dry.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Family 18.4000002 strong.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_02: You heard it here.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: You heard it here on High and Drive First.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_02: We have 18.4 million fans.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: So think about that, potential sponsors.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: We've adopted you forcefully.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: You have no say.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_02: Everyone in Mumbai is a fan.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_02: Here we go.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: So for those of you who are just joining us, we're going to explain this to you.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Our versus match that you probably clicked on this for.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_02: Hubert Farnsworth versus Rick Sanchez, high and dry has a patented method of just finding out who's going to win this.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: We do this in three rounds.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_02: The first round, both fighters hop in the ring and punch it out.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: No shirt, no belts, no shoes.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Fight club rules.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_02: And they punch it out until someone's dead.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_02: Round two, we now move into a cityscape where the individuals are allowed to use their, in this case, inventions and the full scope of their abilities, their mental prowess, and they kind of have a way to figure it out in that almost comic book style.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_02: And then finally, round three, same thing as round two, except this time they get to bring a friend.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_02: And so we have that full, well-rounded way of being the definitive source for us to decide and you to accept who would win.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Your role is to accept.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Not to decide.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: We are the deciders.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_02: We decide and you accept who would win between Rick Sanchez and Professor Hubert Farnes.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: We really love super strong authority on this show, and you can tell because I think that's evident just by everything.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: So know your place, listeners.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: We love you.
• 24:03
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• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: We love so much.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_02: So what we're expecting 18.4 million views on this one.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_02: Should be a good, it should be a good month for us.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little slow, but we'll we'll survive.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_02: Could you imagine going to any sponsor and being every person in Mumbai listens to us?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_02: Every single one.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Alright, so round one.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_02: Rick Sanchez has just stepped into the ring with Professor Hubert Farnsworth.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna jump right into this.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think uh Rick Sanchez is gonna win round one.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_00: You know, uh the the professor has a real propensity for taking a beating and not dying.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember when do you remember when he got bent in half?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_02: Well he got he got bent in half.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: He is tough when you think about it.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_02: So he he grabbed onto that uh toy plane and just hung on.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_02: He no holy shit, the professor can turn into a yeti.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah, the professor can turn into a yeti.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: See, and that's why we're definitive.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hold on.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: But Rick, so I guess that's not an invention.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: That that was not one of his inventions.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: He got bit by a Yeti.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_02: And he's aware Yeti.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: And he's aware Yeti.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_02: But it only popped out that one time, and they did eventually cure it.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: But we take him at his best, right?
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we do take him at his best.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: So is Hubert Varnsworth walking in the ring?
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_00: Is a So we gotta think about this real quick.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_00: What does Rick have?
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's like innate.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think his like cybernetic implants and stuff count as well, no, they do.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: They do.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_02: They do do because it's so it's we take them both at their best within the show.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_02: They don't have anything external.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they have nothing external.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: But Rick is has a bunch of built-in stuff.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Shit, yeah, that he has put cybernetically inside him that he has even when he is naked.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, enough so on an intergalactic interuniversal scale, he's a flight risk.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's correct.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, in that one episode they did have to, but he did find himself subjected to neutralization pretty quickly in that instance.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: But we at high and dry, we're not neutralizing them as we walk in.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_02: We want to see them duke it out.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we want to see them really do it.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: So Professor would turn into a where Yeti.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_02: Which is that is out of left field.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: That is, I that's why people tune in.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing that you remembered that.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: I totally forgot about that where Yeti.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: And you you wow, what a great point.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: At that point, I was like, damn, he takes it.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: I was so surprised.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Holy shit!
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: I forgot about Rick's all his cyber enhancements.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so cyber enhancements on a uh very, very powerful level versus a space.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_02: Was it Plutonian Yeti?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can't remember.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: But he some space yeti.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, or is it Mercury?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_02: No, it wasn't Mercury.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_02: Mercury's Mercury is hot, yeah.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty sure Plutonian Yeti, yeah.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Hyperplutonian um, that was the disease.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_02: Malaria, the hyperplutonian malaria disease.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was malaria, that's right.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_02: There's gonna be some guy when we get a YouTube page, he's gonna be down there.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_02: Well, actually.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, we all we could also do research, but yeah, but fuck that.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, we're just gonna drink.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, we're gonna have a good time, alright?
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_02: So hyper mal plutonium malaria, something like that.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: These were yetis are really strong, right?
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like they would have had trouble.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_00: Would they have had trouble killing this were yeti?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_02: They I mean they did.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: In the episode, they had trouble killing, like they were really hard to get.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_02: They constructed a mouse trap style method of Dr.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_02: Kavorkianing the professor.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_02: And then he turned into the Yeti and it destroyed the whole trap.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_02: And he took on those spinning axe blades that were able to perfectly slice through a tomato and create a salad.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: And then it just bounced off.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Did it bounce off his yeti body?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: It just bounced off his yeti body.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I gotta say, uh that sure.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: But so Rick's gonna So this is gonna be the first ring fight on High and Dry where all of a sudden a Yeti starts fighting a dude who's fully armed.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, he well, he's not really fully armed.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_02: Well, because so you remember in the episode where um Rick he gets onto that plane, his arm turns into that large weapon that shoots the guy through the head, but well, first it uses no, no, it didn't.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: No, he had a little plunger plunger.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then where he took the weapon, it was just a plunger.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that might change it for the Yeti.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: I think Professor Farnsworth takes the first round.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_02: What the fuck is happening?
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: I think Professor Farnsworth takes the first round.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's holy shit.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: This this podcast never ceases to amaze and inspire me.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think that um, you know, I really felt like it was in Rick's favor because he's gotten in fist fights with people where he's like, Yeah, and he does all the time.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: But they always gets close.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's always and they all and he never like pulls out some weapon out of his body.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: He gets in like this long, exaggerated fist fight with them.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_02: Well, so remember, all right, so there's the episode, so there's an episode where he's fighting Phoenix person, he gets thrown against no, no, no, no.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_02: So there's an episode where he's doing the whole DD dragon thing.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Because it is a Harmon show.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and he gets slammed against a rock, but his stuff isn't working in DD World.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_02: And he says, you know, activate morphine, and it doesn't come.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean, uh it would be a crazy good fight.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you never know exactly what Rick's about to pull out.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: But he's been in protracted like fist fights before, even in even in other episodes, like um, he's been he gets in big long fist fights.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_02: So well, I think then the writers need to play to our need to see a toxic fist fight.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, for example, when he's going into his car battery, yeah, um, and he says uh school may be uh, but you still got a lot to learn, and gets into uh you know just a dragged out, you know, backyard fist fight with this guy.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_02: I think so I so I think that Hubert Farnsworth is absent the toxic traits that um Rick has.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_02: And so as Rick is doing something, you know self-indulgent.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_02: Self-indulgent with his things, uh Yeti comes and just and beats him to death and beats him to death.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: And and he's not too worried about it because he's got those other he could he recloned himself a bunch of times.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_02: And uh well, so even in Ed, so we saw we saw the crustacean version of him get ripped apart by dogs.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_02: So he dies, he dies all the time.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: Even with cybernetics and stuff, he dies all the time.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna I'm gonna say Professor Farnsworth definitely takes that one.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Professor Farnsworth turns into a Yeti and rips Rick Sanchez apart.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: Fucking crazy.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Never never saw that coming.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_02: Neither did I.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_02: I thought for sure.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_02: Look, even as I'm saying it, I'm like, Rick's gonna win this.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_02: There's no way he can't.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then Professor Farnsworth turns into a Yeti.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: We don't plan any of this.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: This is just about as much a surprise for us as it is for you.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: So there it is.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_02: Round one, fist fight match, goes to Professor Hubert Farnsworth.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_02: Congratulations, Professor.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: The man who also, at his worst, broke his own arms when he lifted his hands over his own head.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: But but proves unkillable.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, so round two of our fight club here.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_02: So round two, um, the fight now backs up into a city view where the two fighters now have their laboratories, their mental acuity, their ability for tactics, which we saw in previous episode, Billy the Butcher took it with those tactics.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_02: So it really changes the game.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_02: This is taking place wherever it happens to be taking place.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, story if I was writing the screenplay for this, I think Rick would have showed up in Futurama World.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_02: And for some reason has beef.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, Rick goes to lots of goofy worlds.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_02: So he goes to Futurama World and Yeah.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_00: Futurama never goes anywhere normal.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Rick sometimes goes somewhere normal, so his world wouldn't be the Oh, but Rick does also doesn't do time travel.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: So but he does.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: He does.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_02: He does, but he doesn't.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: Because at the end of the day, it all comes down to Dan Harmon and um Just Royland.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_00: Justin Roiland, I think, is his name.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's the Sirog talking.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_02: Because I guess I know you and I have discussed this before, just that level of you know, there's self-deprecation and a level of toxicity that does come with Rick.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's super distracting.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: He he gets distracted by his own toxicity all the time.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_00: He it leads him to be really self-indulgent about what he does.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: And and while a lot of times he is able to manage laser focus, he also many times just as many times uh completely fails because of his own toxic, toxic self-indulgence.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_02: And so, well, you have a lot of people who idolize Rick.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: When you really shouldn't, like he's hilarious.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_02: He's he's definitely the funniest part of the show.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: But he's not the one you should be looking up to.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_02: And there are times when I very much empathize with Rick and very much feel like I've been there, I've been sitting there, but it was never a good period in my life.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_02: And I shouldn't be like looking to get like I think there's a tendency, especially for the audience, like it's it's registered towards mature audiences.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_02: But it's it's not mature audiences who are watching that.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, they're watching Fraser and whatever the fuck.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: We're we are immature.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_00: I uh I used to be on the other side of this argument about how influential media can be, you know, especially when they were trying to take away the things I liked.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like, remember those big video game scares when we were in like uh we were in high school where they were like, video games are too violent, and you know, um they're they're creating violent children.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: So like I used to be on the other side of this argument, but I think, man, we were super influenced by media.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like media really influences us.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_02: See, I think that rating systems need to change, like but how?
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: I like how here here's how you do it is you you you teach parents.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what you do, is what we do is is we say at one point in your life, all right, you're done learning.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: You've you've learned everything.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's time to teach your kids.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're still a fucking child.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you've learned everything, you're good.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, we need to create a culture that is lifelong learners, people who can who are taught about what's happening in the world by a trusted source.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: Because we are not we are not mature enough as a whole for some of these things.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_02: So I think that the whole age rating system is flawed because there's definitely you'll have 60-year-olds who got some learning to do, yeah, and then you have you know, particularly gifted 17-year-olds who are totally ready to separate you know fact from fiction and experienced a lot of reality.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: And so when I was younger, there's and I I totally understand it.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_02: When I was younger and angsty and angry at everything, you know, you you you start idolizing fucking Tyler Durden.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um exactly right.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: And then and so me now as an adult, there's a lot of things with Rick where the so for example, he he gets he gets scorned by unity.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_02: And at the end there, he tries to kill himself just over self-loathing and the end of this relationship.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm looking at that, I'm like, I've been sitting in that garage at the same low spot you have, yeah, but I don't idolize you.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no shit.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so I definitely feel that, and I think it's okay to feel with those characters and you learn from that, but you they don't become your idols.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: But when you were younger, people like that, I've I I've known you for a long time, and I think people like that were your idols.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: And that you saw a kind of romanticism in it.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: We romanticize that that those feelings because they're just so intense and so much more than what we experience now.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: And now me being a man who's actually experienced those things, who's like, there's nothing fucking romantic about it.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: There is nothing romantic about it.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_02: You're literally sitting in a garage disgusted with yourself.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: You know, there's been entire years of my life where I avoided looking at myself in the mirror.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_02: And that there's nothing romantic about that.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_02: Holy shit, we're in the middle of the versus match.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: This is important.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: This is an important conversation about this.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: The people come here for the for the personal growth talk.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know that this is a podcast about personal growth by now, god damn it.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, we definitely have been going that way.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, so to check yourself about your individualism.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing romantic about about be about having a bad time or being or struggling.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: Struggle is not romantic, it's dirty and it's hard and it sucks.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: And you want to try to avoid it.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: But you want to but the way you prevent those kind of things is by being a good person.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_02: Well, and and so like even at that young stage, when in that, you know, Tyler Durden is my hero stage, um, you know, I would say to myself, you know, I want to experience every every facet of it.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: And yes, I guess at the end it did make me a more complete person.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_02: However, there are those toxic like so so, for example, so worshipping Tyler Durden, becoming just this monster because I felt that you know you want to be the main character of those stories, yeah um, it did, I you know, I garnered a lot of interest from the opposite sex.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, a lot of things I did were because of that and the personality I adopted for myself, but then the world outgrew my personality, and I lost all those things I gained because here I am 25, 26, and you know, I'm I'm fucking Tyler Darden.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_02: Who's who you should not be emulating?
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and other and other 26-year-olds and seven-year-olds are like, ooh, like I don't know.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is this guy gonna go crazy?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_00: You never know.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because people have to grow up.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta grow up.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's that that individualism.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: We're you're so well, you're so desperate for it.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_02: And I mean, you have the Nietzsche um in the absence of God, we we find our own, and you know, spirituality is so this ties into the first thing we were talking about.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, holy crap, geez, we are drunk, and this is just happening.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: Ties into the first thing, the consciousness, and it's it's an entitled creature, exactly, is what it is.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's a person who doesn't feel like they have to consider anyone else.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's Rick, that's Tyler Durton, it's all these toxically masculine, powerful people.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: You have Fromm's book, um uh 1941 Escape from Freedom, in which he discusses you know, freedom from, freedom to, and we just kind of ties into that absence of spirituality, um, wherever you derive that from, hopefully in a healthy way, that you aren't being controlled by anybody.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but so you in the absence of that, we do seek out someone for whom we can model ourselves.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_02: And so now, you know, when I was growing up, you had Tyler Durden.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_02: Now you got characters like Rick Sanchez, yeah.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: And you you see Rick getting ready to kill himself in a garage, and you just think of like what an intense feeling, something I haven't had yet.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_02: I want that for myself.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_02: And then when you finally get to the garage, you're like, this is great.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_00: This is horrible.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: This is oh wow, this is not as this is not as romantic as I thought it was.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_02: This isn't romantic at all.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_02: You know, when you really stop to think about this isn't romantic at all, and even Rick, you know, he's now absent of the affection that you know at the end of the day he was looking for.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: And there it is.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_02: So round two we haven't even talked about the goes to Hubert, who isn't killing himself in his garage.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hubert, who is whimsically laughing about whatever he's laughing about, who's uh when confronted with an 80s business time traveler who came to steal his company, tricked him comically with an escape plan instead of a business plan.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: So I know there's gonna be some people pissed off about this, and I I think I think that's it.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: I I think that is the answer to round two.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Is that is that Hubert Farnsworth is not vindictive?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: No, is that he's he's 164?
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_02: And he has the wisdom to know that so so Rick has the wisdom to know that not a whole lot matters.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_02: But then Professor Farnsworth has the wisdom to understand it.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: He has the wisdom to understand that nothing matters, and that for and therefore and therefore he can use that.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: He can use that nothing matters.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: Rick is still at war with it.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_00: And and Professor Farnsworth is like, Oh if not if nothing matters, I can build an engine that moves the entire universe around my side around my ship.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, so to him, nothing matters so much that he accidentally creates a box that does the same shit that Rick's gun does.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that Rick tried to use and exploit, and you know, every version of Rick has used and exploited that technology and uh to try to get one up on another Rick or a person or advance themselves in some way.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: And Professor Farnsworth did it on fucking accident.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and he thought, and deep down, he's just so whatever.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then then he then next week he moved on to the next thing.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_02: So Rick is a visitor to nihilism.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_02: Professor Farnsworth is he fucking owns the ranch, you know.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what absurdists do.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: Absurdists own the nihilists' ranch.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, the nihilists are like toiling away on the oh, everything fucking blows.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: The absurdists are like, ha ha ha, yeah.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: I know, I know.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_02: He makes a joke out of losing his company.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't it great?
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_02: So there it is.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_02: Round one, round two, both go to Professor Farnsworth.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_02: And so at this point, Professor Farnsworth has one, but I would be remiss if we didn't explore round three.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: Round three.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_00: Who would they bring along?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_02: So Rick only has one option.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_00: Who?
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: Morty.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't that's not his only option.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: He's done things with other people.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_02: Every one of them, except Morty, has become someone who won't associate with Rick beyond a nihilistic impromptu party.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_00: But no, no, sometimes people get dragged along with Rick and they don't have a choice on whether they're there or not.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: And but in order to survive, they're off like it's part of the show that in order to survive, they have to cooperate with Rick.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: And they might not even survive.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: And they might not even survive.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that that means Rick can bring almost he can bring anyone he can kidnap.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: Anyone who can't get away from him is his partner.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: Which is a I think that's a superpower Rick has, as we've seen through the show.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_00: Anyone who is around him who he could kidnap.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: So Rick in the show is able to replicate what Rick Fandom is.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'd love for you to explain that.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: So so Rick Fandom, I mean, you have so for example, you have a bunch of angry young men attacking a McDonald's because they don't have the Sachuan sauce.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_02: And so that fandom, you know, they've latched on to Rick's bullshit.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_00: Rick's entitlement.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_00: Rick's entitlement.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: Of never being told no.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: And and so the fandom mimics that.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so, in a way, when you see Rick basically what he does to Morty all the time, where you're coming, yeah.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and you don't see like what a slippery slope it would be if I had to ask you to jump off the entire Empire State Building, and that's what you have.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I think the fan base mimics that.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, huh.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_02: Random drunk thought.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_02: Random drunk thought.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: New hashtag.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_02: Hashtag random drunk thought.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_00: So so uh so Rick can bring anyone he wants.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: Anyone he wants.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Who would Professor bring?
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_02: Honestly, so Professor would be so Professor is so living within his nihilism that he'd bring his accountant.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: He'd bring her meet.
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_00: He'd bring, he'd either bring his uh his what is what is Amy?
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: Amy's like his aide.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, his aide.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: Well, by the grad student, yeah, he's a grad student.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: So he'd bring the grad student so she could learn something, but he doesn't even care if she learns something.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't care.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: She she just is around and people continue to follow him for whatever reason.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's so funny.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: He does everything that Rick wants to be without trying to be Rick.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_02: And it's crazy that we're breaking this down right now.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I never I never thought about this.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: Is that he's what Rick wishes.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_00: He's what Rick would be if Rick was likable.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: And and he even Professor Farnsworth is like dismissive of other people's lives, but he's still likable.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: And people still fucking bring him around and stuff, and Rick fucking makes everyone hate him.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so I think the real winner here is friendship.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: I think that I think that friendship makes you strong.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Just like, oh, Rick would bring Jerry.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry's total so so the way to combat the professor's absurd nihilism is to bring someone who's so unaware that they're like an unanticipated factor who like stumbles into being powerful because he's just fucking stumbling.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I feel that now that we've really broken down Hubert Farnsworth, uh-huh, like he seems so unassuming and so innocent, uh-huh.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: But then when but now that we've really broken down who he is and what he's capable of, Jerry would be the like it wouldn't even be a blip on the professor's radar.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Which means Jerry could get really close.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because in a lot of episodes, Hubert Farnsworth lets all his enemies really close to him, like all the time.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_02: Well, he literally lets Bender cut off his eye.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's true.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_02: To take the briefcase out of it, and then after it's out there that Bender cut off his hand, he doesn't give a shit.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: And and then so the professor is that's that's nihil that's absurdism.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what it is.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I think, man, you made such a great point about nihilism before.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really I'm really glad we had that conversation because truly the professor is an absurdist, a nihilist who's taken control of nihilism and and said, Well, I'm going to find meaning in the absurd then, and nothing matters, but what if it what if it could matter on my terms?
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: What if I gave meaning to things instead of accepting meaning from things?
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if we're just really drunk and high, but this is like some deep shit.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_00: I love absurdism.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: I think absurdism is such a great philosophy.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: I I try to be an absurdist and not get caught up in the small stuff.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_02: Like it is the professor's nihilism so great and so practiced that you don't even realize that that's what's happening right now.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and so Rick, who's always at war with it, and the whole series is just trying to basically give you, you know, 101 uh nihilism.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_02: But then you graduate to this ridiculous show about a frozen guy falling in love with a Cyclops that the master of nihilism is just in the background the whole time.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_00: He really is.
• 49:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know what's so funny is all the adventures in Futurama spawn from the professor who could create universes and boxes and make a spaceship where the universe flies around it and has a collection of doomsday weapons, is running a delivery service.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: Is running a failing delivery service.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_00: It never affects him.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, it never fit.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't give a shit.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_00: He all all of these all of these adventures that he sends them on.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_01: All these adventures he sends them on are just like bullshit things for his delivery company when he when he when he's creating tombs day devices.
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_01: He can easily Time machines.
• 49:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he created it.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: He has a delivery company.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: And that that is the premise for everything on the show.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_02: Holy shit.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, that there it is.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_02: There it is.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: He he is such an absurdist that he he literally is like, I'm going to create fun, interesting things because nothing fucking matters.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_02: Any one of those things he could sell and make the delivery company company completely irrelevant.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_02: No, a single one.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_02: He has a collection of doomsday devices, and one of them he has a sentimental value towards.
• 50:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but he said, I guess I could give one of them up and still be feared.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: And he runs a failing delivery company that is the premise for every fucking thing on the show.
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_00: So Jesus.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um Hubert Farnsworth is I didn't realize how powerful.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't either.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't either.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's that's where it is.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_02: Because Rick is he cares too much about himself.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_02: And he won't know what because everything that he's trying to be, uh, the professor is.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_02: And I think just what the edgy viewers don't see is that that's what it becomes.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_02: It becomes absurd.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: Rick truly is absurd, and sometimes I kind of cringe when when when they have Rick try to experience like deep things.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, how could you not see that that would happen to you?
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, I don't feel sorry for you.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like you, if if you hadn't indulged yourself so much, maybe and paid attention to the other people around you, you could accept that things are absurd instead of instead of be raging against the fact that they are.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I think um this comes down to what high and dry has been trying to say for a long time.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_02: It comes down to uh self-care, mental health, safety first, then teamwork.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_02: But I like I think so.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think round three, it doesn't matter who the fuck the professor takes, because the professor won't give a shit the whole time.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_00: And he'll still succeed.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_02: He'll still succeed.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: That's because he is the master of what Rick is trying to be.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: He truly is the Zen.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: He is he is he's the Darth.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's the Emperor Palpatine.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: He's the Emperor Palpatine to Rick's Darth Vader.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_02: But no, no, he's not even that.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_02: He's the Emperor Palpatine to Count Ducku.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_02: Count Duca gets his head sliced off.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_02: Darth Vader eventually throws Palpatine down an elevator shaft.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_00: So Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't win.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because yeah, Darth Vader technically beat his master.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_00: But no, uh Well, I mean the new.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not getting into the shift.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_02: Jesus.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_02: We we promised we were in a political podcast, so we are not gonna talk about the new Star Wars.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: The point is that Hubert Farnsworth encapsulates a mastery of the the skills that Rick has been struggling against.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: That that is the core, that's the core conceit of Rick and Morty.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: Is that Rick is struggling against his his own core his problems of struggling with nihilism.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Rick and Morty tries to razzle and dazzle us so we don't see through it.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah but then at the end of the day, we don't see that in Futurama because the professor's already mastered it all.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the professor is so seamlessly absurdistly nihilistic.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_00: Where where people are like, people are dying, and he's like, okay, you know, wake me up when it's over.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_02: Rick would have to deal with it.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, even if he doesn't show it, he'd have to deal with it.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_02: So this went a crazy way.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_02: It sure did.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_02: Not anticipating any of that.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_02: I like going into this, I'm sitting there thinking, Is this gonna be worth even gonna be worth talking about?
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Rick is so powerful, but then but it's it's like it's like in those old samurai black and white movies where that young, strong, powerful samurai approaches the old wisened man on the mountain and gets humbled.
• 54:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and that is exactly what would happen with Farnsworth, is he'd be standing still, and Rick would try to do something, and and and something would happen, and Professor would be like, oh yeah, I installed that years ago and totally forgot about it.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: And Rick would be done.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: And uh because that's what Farnsworth is.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: He's a fucking master.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_02: He's the master of super science and nihilism, and Rick is just starting on the path.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's he's a he's a real neophyte about it.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_00: And uh man, even if even if someone wanted to argue about that first round, uh prof there's he Professor fucking one, two and three.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: He he he wins two and three, hands down, and even if you want to argue about the Yeti, which he can't, we're the authority anyway, but even if you wanted to argue about that shit.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_02: I forgot he was a Yeti.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we're so fucked up.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_01: But uh but even if you even if you want to dispute that round, dude, the professor fucking takes it on two and three.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: He he takes the fucking questionably takes it.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's done.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh there it is.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't he he tries to explain history to his crew and puts on a porno and is totally unfazed by it.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_02: So there it is.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: I bet this is an upset for a lot of you.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_02: It was an upset for us, but but it's such a clear upset that I'm I'm very happy with the results.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know Rick would turn the if Rick turned the porn on, it would be to elicit a response.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: It would be to elicit a response.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_02: And the professor is just like you need to know about this.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't think, he doesn't think twice about it.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_00: In in the middle of doing it, he's already forgotten what he's doing.
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_00: And he's exactly he's the kind of person Rick wishes he could be.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: Where he really is disconnected, so disconnected, yeah, but so brilliant.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and so like even when the professor gets back with mom over and over and over again, he forgets about it.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_02: He makes mutant albino gorillas to scream to scream about it.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_02: He doesn't sit there, drink himself to death, and you know, he does look, this'll be funny.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't even think he doesn't even know why he's doing it, which is great.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, that's the thing about the professor.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: God damn, he doesn't even know why he does it, he just does it.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: But also it's yeah, I don't think Professor often knows why he's doing things, and that's his strength, is that he succeeds without knowing why he's doing those.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_02: I mean you so you do have the episode where well you do have the episode where he um remember he originally had fallen in love with a robot, and and that's why he and because the robot broke up with him, that's why he's a he he's against proposition infinity.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: But then eventually he he immediately admits that I'm a fraud.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_02: And then he's just right back into I'm the professor again.
• 57:12
  unknown: Yeah.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: See, and that's his strength, is that is that he can choose to affect reality however he wants and ever he likes because nothing matters.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_02: He's done.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then it's gone.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_02: Professor again.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: Good news, everybody.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_02: So good news, everybody.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_02: Professor wins two to three out of three.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm calling I see uh people can argue, but I'm not gonna give it to him.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Three out of three.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_02: There it is.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's right.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_02: I forgot for a moment that we are the definitive source here.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_02: So three out of three, Professor Hubert Farnsworth beats Rick Sanchez.
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_02: Way to go, Futurama.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_02: Nice going, Futurama.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_02: Professor takes it.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_02: Three for three out of three.
• 57:50
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• 58:19
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• 58:21
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• 58:26
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• 58:28
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• 58:33
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• 58:35
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• 58:36
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