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Two Jersey Js: From Housewife to Housewife · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, it's Shackie Goldschneider and Jen Fessler.
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  Speaker 2: We are two Jersey Jays. I feel like we haven't
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  Speaker 2: recorded in a little while.
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  Speaker 3: We absolutely have them almost are I don't like with
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  Speaker 3: our husbands.
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  Speaker 2: It was like a long time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think I blocked that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a long time. How was your Valentine's Day?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Valentine's Day? Completely uneventful. Yeah, I don't even We didn't
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  Speaker 3: even go out. We had we ate some brought some
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  Speaker 3: chocolate home. We exchanged cards. That's it. Wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: You want to know two of my children have significant
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  Speaker 1: others now so new evening like driving them around.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two of them.
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  Speaker 3: How cute is that? Come?
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's very very cute. It's very cute.
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  Speaker 3: Wait the older ones. I'm assuming your older time.
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  Speaker 1: My daughter's got a little boyfriend for like five Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they went months in dinner. Yeah, they really enjoy
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  Speaker 1: each other. They're super cute together. I mean, it's totally innocent.
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  Speaker 3: But she was fourteen, right.
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  Speaker 2: She's fourteen.
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  Speaker 1: And then my old are turning seventeen in three weeks
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  Speaker 1: and no hitch and they're getting in their licenses and
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole nother topic like I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: you did it, Like weren't you so nervous?
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  Speaker 2: Like how did you?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't do it. That was
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  Speaker 3: one area that I knew I was not capable of parenting.
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  Speaker 3: So but not even to teach them to drive, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was too not even the teaching, like the nervousness driving
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  Speaker 1: when they they're like so nervous.
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  Speaker 3: I got nothing. I got nothing good for you. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what to tell you. It's scary, yeah, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean the truth is, I'm even scared, not as
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  Speaker 3: much as Zach. I'm being honest, but I get nervous
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  Speaker 3: now with Rachel driving just and I you know, as
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  Speaker 3: much as you say to them, that's the only thing
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  Speaker 3: that you can be doing is driving. There is no this.
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  Speaker 3: There is no texting, there is no talking on the phone,
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  Speaker 3: there is no eating, there is no you have to
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  Speaker 3: just you know, focus, focus, focus on the road. But
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  Speaker 3: when I mean, they just don't always listen. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm always a nervous wrack about it, I know, agreed.
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  Speaker 1: Funny last night I went out with some girlfriends for
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  Speaker 1: drinks and we were talking about college because all our
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  Speaker 1: kids are in that mode of looking at colleges now,
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  Speaker 1: and we all started talking about like the stupid, stupid
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  Speaker 1: shit we did when we were in college, and we
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  Speaker 1: were like, it's a wonder that we're working alive. Can
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  Speaker 1: I just tell you that one time I went with
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  Speaker 1: my friends to a Caribbean island and we were in
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  Speaker 1: a casino in a Caribbean island, and we let these
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  Speaker 1: guys drive us home back to our hotel, and like,
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  Speaker 1: I am surprised that I still have a kidney, Like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why something like.
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  Speaker 3: That I went home with guys. I mean, if we're
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  Speaker 3: going to just be honest, like looking back now in
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  Speaker 3: my twenties and I was like, woohoo, Yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 3: why would yeah drive whatever? Anyway, I was a bit
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  Speaker 3: of a hoe. But that's like a home makes.
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  Speaker 2: Me scared anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Just trust that your children will make decently good decisions
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  Speaker 1: and say no to drugs anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Drugs, yes, especially now ly it's that's a whole other
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  Speaker 3: topic that maybe we'll talk about. But I have a
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  Speaker 3: very dear friend whose sun died of fentanyl.
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, that's the one that you wear the sweatshirts
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  Speaker 1: being Jack happy to Jack.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, my friend Brady, it's that's another Maybe she'll come on.
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  Speaker 3: That's another episode. It's a scary, serious topic. Then we
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  Speaker 3: have today today, we have some fun things to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I am so excited for our guests because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like her her trajectory has been so multifaceted, like we
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  Speaker 1: can talk about one thing, we could talk about, another
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  Speaker 1: thing we could talk about.
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  Speaker 2: She's very interesting and she was not on my radar
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well no, if I'm being on she wasn't. But
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  Speaker 3: her publicist and I are good friends, and so as
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  Speaker 3: soon as he started telling me about her, I became
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  Speaker 3: very interested quickly because she is she is so interesting.
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  Speaker 3: She has also had her toe dipped in this world
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  Speaker 3: that wear it not just dipped. I guess she was
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  Speaker 3: on the housewid of Toronto. You guys, So today we
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  Speaker 3: are talking to Roxy Earl. And by the way, the
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  Speaker 3: only reason I hadn't heard of her is because I
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  Speaker 3: never watched the housewivese of Toronto. It was only on
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  Speaker 3: Right Sane.
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  Speaker 2: But if you had, you could know her because she
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  Speaker 2: was a standout.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she was a standout. And Roxy did the one
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  Speaker 3: and only season of Housewives of Toronto wait, let me
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  Speaker 3: actually correct myself there maybe the one and only season.
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  Speaker 3: Thinking maybe not the one and only season, but we'll
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  Speaker 3: talk to her about that. So this women is really
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  Speaker 3: just the coolest you guys. So she has used her
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  Speaker 3: platform to raise awareness about body positivity and that is
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  Speaker 3: certainly a topic that Jack, you and I both are very,
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  Speaker 3: very interested in. Also women's empowerment. She is the world's
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  Speaker 3: first AI styling coach to get men ready for dates.
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  Speaker 3: So I would not want to. I would definitely not
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  Speaker 3: want to switch positions with her. That's not something I
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  Speaker 3: would ever be at all interested in. But I am
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  Speaker 3: fascinated as to why she would do it and what
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  Speaker 3: she's discovered. See. She's also the co founder of anna Health,
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  Speaker 3: which is actually.
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  Speaker 1: Which is really like something that I can relate to
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  Speaker 1: having had.
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  Speaker 2: Did you have any fertility problems?
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  Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I went through five rounds of IVF myself,
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  Speaker 1: and I experienced a lot of dramatic ups and downs
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  Speaker 1: with fertility. Anyone who's been on that journey knows what
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about. There are very dark days, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of physical and mental implications of going through fertility treatments.
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  Speaker 2: So I cannot wait to talk to her about this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, between the body positivity and the fertility app,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I could talk to her probably for
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  Speaker 1: a month. So let's see. So she's the co founder
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  Speaker 1: of anna Health. It's called Annahealth and it's an app
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  Speaker 1: that she developed with her husband, doctor Arnold, to provide
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  Speaker 1: expert fertility care at home. What an interesting woman. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to talk to her. So everyone rocks here.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Roxy, We are so excited to have you.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, pretty lady, my favorite girls from Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so you're in Toronto right now.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm at my house in Beverly Hills. Oh, I
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  Speaker 4: love you right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But you have two homes.
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  Speaker 3: You live in Beverly Hills and Toronto. Mm hmm, well
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  Speaker 3: that seems ideal.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I go back and forth. But I'm spending
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  Speaker 5: a lot of time here in La right now. So
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  Speaker 5: it's very fabulous. It's pretty cold in Toronto right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Jersey too, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's starting it's starting that warm up. Anyway, enough
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  Speaker 1: small talk. We have so many questions for you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just so excited to be on here for copy
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  Speaker 4: on your pod.
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  Speaker 3: We are so excited.
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  Speaker 4: It's amazing, really fun.
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  Speaker 2: So let's have fun, all right, get some fun? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: So can we start with the Real Housewives of Toronto?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Always like is this real?
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  Speaker 1: Man? Right?
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  Speaker 2: Did you love it? What were your feelings about? It
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  Speaker 2: was only one season?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: What year twenty seventeen?
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember. It's been a blarus since then.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, in one season. I had no idea what I
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  Speaker 5: was doing. Like all of us when we do the Housewives,
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  Speaker 5: I don't think we actually know what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, I would say, you're like, yes, fabulous, let's do it,
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  Speaker 5: and then you're like, what the hell has happened?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: And it was so much fun. It was insanity. I
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  Speaker 5: loved it. I had a really great experience. And then
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  Speaker 5: when the show came out, I mean, how do you say,
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  Speaker 5: you're like the loved one? Like, you know what, Favorite's
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  Speaker 5: like a really nice experience for me because I would
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  Speaker 5: go out in my city and you know what, it's like,
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  Speaker 5: everybody is so excited to see you. It was such
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  Speaker 5: a whirlwind. And then I like put the show to rest.
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  Speaker 5: I literally my career took off after that. All of
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  Speaker 5: these things happen. I never thought I would be doing
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  Speaker 5: the Housewives again, and I really just put it to
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  Speaker 5: rest in my mind, and I think, like, that's when
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  Speaker 5: Bravo comes calling. Is when you're like they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 5: expecting it right now. And then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know where. They come back and they're like,
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  Speaker 5: we want to reboot the Housewives.
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  Speaker 4: But all when was this you?
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  Speaker 2: This was like a bit ago, a year ago, so
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  Speaker 2: ago that this is happening.
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  Speaker 4: Oh well no wait, ladies, I cannot confirm anything, but
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  Speaker 4: I can.
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  Speaker 5: I will give you this tea which I haven't shared
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  Speaker 5: with anyone, which is what happened. So they come and
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  Speaker 5: they're like, we want to do this whole reboot around you,
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  Speaker 5: your life, all these amazing entrepreneurs that you know, and
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  Speaker 5: all these fabulous women who are like your actual friends
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  Speaker 5: because you know, some girls on the show were my
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  Speaker 5: friends and some girls were not.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely know how that is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, let's get into that after tip, because I have
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  Speaker 5: a lot of questions for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And so they come back and they're like, I'm literally
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  Speaker 5: have a new I'm like married with two babies. No,
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  Speaker 5: that life left behind the one that was aired on TV.
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  Speaker 5: So it was like a whole new life that I'm
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  Speaker 5: now leading, and they're like, we want to film this.
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  Speaker 5: We've shoot this amazing pilot. We've shoot the first episode.
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  Speaker 5: It's so juicy. I've seen it. It's spicy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, like, so you're really in it though you
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  Speaker 3: shot the pilot, like this is happening. Are you filmed
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  Speaker 3: more than the pilot?
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  Speaker 4: I cannot say, but I will say yes.
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  Speaker 5: I mean maybe not Jersey like your last episode of
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  Speaker 5: New Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Not like quite there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, that thank god, just like a disasa.
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  Speaker 5: We'll get into it. So it wasn't that, but it
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  Speaker 5: was exciting. And then that's all I know. And now
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  Speaker 5: it's with the universe and I have no idea what's
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  Speaker 5: going to happen. And then since then, some amazing things
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  Speaker 5: are happening with my business. So I'm like spending a
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  Speaker 5: lot of time in la and I just don't know
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  Speaker 5: what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Like in the.
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  Speaker 5: Limbo fats and everyone's talking about how I'm coming back
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  Speaker 5: to the housewives, and I'm like, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not lying to I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You know who we are right now, we're the same
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  Speaker 3: feel about filming.
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  Speaker 4: My husband loves it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really, you.
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  Speaker 5: Loved like he's he's like a famous doctor, Like he's
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  Speaker 5: got this whole personality that's like this whole thing, and
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  Speaker 5: he would never have thought of anything like this. And
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  Speaker 5: then when they wanted to film our lives, I said,
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  Speaker 5: the only rule, there is only one role.
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  Speaker 4: We just have to be if we want to do this.
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  Speaker 5: It's like one hundred percent ourselves, Like it only works
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  Speaker 5: if you're not pretending to be something you want to be.
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  Speaker 5: And he's so comfortable in his own skin and he's
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  Speaker 5: such a confident guy that it worked.
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  Speaker 4: We worked really well. We had so much fun.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was like, Oh, what kind of doctor is he?
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  Speaker 4: He's the most incredible fertility doctor in the world.
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  Speaker 3: He makes me that's okay, so right, that's why you
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  Speaker 3: made with him.
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  Speaker 2: Did he know who you were when he met you?
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  Speaker 4: No, he had no idea who I was. He'd never
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  Speaker 4: heard of the Housewives, never seen it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was just this whirlwind romance and we
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  Speaker 5: fell in love and it was like the most beautiful story.
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  Speaker 5: But he'd never seen the Housewives. We didn't watch The
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  Speaker 5: Housewives of Toronto until actually we were like eight months
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  Speaker 5: pregnant with our first child. In like the depths of
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  Speaker 5: Covid being like, you know what we should do?
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  Speaker 4: We should see the Housewives, and.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, what is this? He's like this is so fun.
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  Speaker 5: He's like, you're so good at this, you should do
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  Speaker 5: this more. I'm sort of like, you know, when you
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  Speaker 5: don't know if you're getting another show, you kind of
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  Speaker 5: just are like, I don't I'm done with TV.
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  Speaker 4: Do you guys know how that feels.
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  Speaker 2: We're sort of on pause, so kind of yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but you went back stack.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think both of us would like to. But
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  Speaker 3: I think that also for us because things are so near,
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  Speaker 3: there is a part of me and it's like you
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  Speaker 3: have to kind of let it go. It's it's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 2: I would go back if it changed, if our cast changed.
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  Speaker 4: For sure, who would you go back with? Because that's
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  Speaker 4: what they.
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  Speaker 3: Said, We're not that's turning this around on us, lady, No, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: what you are on this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's not that I would go back with like certain friends.
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  Speaker 1: I'd go back with anyone who is open to letting
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  Speaker 1: go of past feuds because if they're not, then you're
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  Speaker 1: just gonna fight and fight and fight, and then it's
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  Speaker 1: not enjoyable and life is too short to do the
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  Speaker 1: shit that's not enjoyable.
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  Speaker 5: Right if it doesn't bring joy like we were getting
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  Speaker 5: ourselves into. But that's what I said to them when
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  Speaker 5: they came back. I said, no, no, I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to do anything. My life is incredible. I don't want
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  Speaker 5: to do anything that's not fun or that's twice or
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  Speaker 5: not positive.
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  Speaker 1: You know that the show is going to be dramatic.
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  Speaker 1: You know there's going to be like a little fighting
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  Speaker 1: and everything. But if you could be on the show
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  Speaker 1: with people who know how to like let it go
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  Speaker 1: and learn a lesson from it and move forward, then
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  Speaker 1: it's an enjoyable experience, even though you know what you're
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  Speaker 1: getting into. It's when people can't let go of anything
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  Speaker 1: and the fights just keep going that it's like NonStop fighting,
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  Speaker 1: and then it's strained.
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  Speaker 5: It's everyone says, and you guys must know this because
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  Speaker 5: they say to you, oh, is it real?
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  Speaker 4: And it's the most real thing like And the problem.
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  Speaker 5: Is is that everyone's like, oh, well, it's it's a
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  Speaker 5: TV show, So you can't like turn it off and
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  Speaker 5: go home and then forget about everything just happened that day.
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  Speaker 4: It like becoming when it's your real life.
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  Speaker 3: When I started, they the producer said to me, your
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  Speaker 3: job is who say everything you think? So right, So like,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm not on the Real Housewives of New Jersey
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  Speaker 3: and I think someone's an asshole, I don't probably going
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  Speaker 3: to keep it to myself, right, But the job is
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  Speaker 3: to say what you're thinking. And so it's a very
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  Speaker 3: it's a very strange, like alternate universe, but it can.
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  Speaker 3: It's I think it's brought all three of us. You know,
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  Speaker 3: lots of joy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so questions about Toronto.
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  Speaker 1: So so of the people on your original cast, you
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  Speaker 1: ate in touch with some of them or you're not
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  Speaker 1: in touch with any of them.
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  Speaker 5: I stayed in touch with a few, and they're like
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  Speaker 5: dear friends who I love, Like.
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  Speaker 4: Baby coming back with you were born? No one was. No.
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  Speaker 5: The whole thing when they brought it back to me
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  Speaker 5: was when I did the show, I was a lot
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  Speaker 5: younger and a lot different phase of my life than
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  Speaker 5: some of the other women.
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  Speaker 3: Rochie, how old are you? You look so young?
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  Speaker 4: Fun now?
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  Speaker 3: How old?
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  Speaker 4: I did forty one?
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow? I thought you were like thirty, me too,
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  Speaker 3: Look at you go.
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  Speaker 5: Girls Korean skincare and so I just when I did
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  Speaker 5: the show, though I was like in my early thirties,
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  Speaker 5: and honestly everyone was in there was at least in
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  Speaker 5: their forties or in their late forties at that time,
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  Speaker 5: and so we were just at different phases in our life.
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  Speaker 5: And I think when they came back to me what
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  Speaker 5: they said, because at first when they came back, I.
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  Speaker 4: Said, absolutely not.
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  Speaker 5: Like the housewives, as you know, can be very toxic,
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  Speaker 5: and so I'm very interested in putting positivity out into
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  Speaker 5: the world. So they said to me, well, what if
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  Speaker 5: it was the real people that you spend time with,
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  Speaker 5: the real networks that you have, like other women doing interesting,
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  Speaker 5: fabulous things.
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, but I know how you
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  Speaker 4: sell it.
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  Speaker 5: And then next thing you know, I'm like someone's throwing
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  Speaker 5: a drink in my face. And so I said it
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  Speaker 5: has to be like I understand if you put fabulous
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  Speaker 5: women together, there is natural drama, but I don't want
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  Speaker 5: anything that's going to be I don't want any people
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: that are like they're not good people, you know what
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, Like they're toxic people, Like there's nothing you
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: could do that was good with them. And so they
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: said okay, and they cast the most incredible group of
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: women and it was like, really, did our city proud?
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: So I hope it makes it to the air. I
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: don't know though, that's the tea. No one knows that, yeah,
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: by every journalist, and I have not answered that. I'm
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: sure my publicist is saying, stop talking.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: But well, we don't want to get you in trouble.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: But it's just it is what it is. Truth.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: I filmed something. I hope people get to see it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: If they don't, life is so.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Fabulous, Well so don't get to see it. We'll do
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: a private screening maybe.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So Roxie, when you were on your first season,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: you were very well known for being very body positive?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Was that? And I have so many questions about that
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: because I recovered publicly from a twenty year battle with
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: anarexia on the air and now I'm like an activist
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: for it for recovery. But tell me about like were
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: the was the public very supportive or did you get
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: mean comments?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: What was the experience like then? And where are you
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: now in that journey?
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: Whoa, it's such like a big like, first of all,
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: congratulations for me, thank you to get to a point
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: where you're able to openly talk about something that can
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: be very challenging and painful. So the thing is is
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: that when I did The Housewives, I had no idea
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: my body would be such a topic of conversation.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: On the show.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: And in my first interview, we sit down with Entertainment
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: Tonight and she says, how does it feel to be
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the first plus size housewife? And I'm like what, Like, wow,
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: can you imagine like all of the shame that's wrapped
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: up in that word?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: Myself and I'm thinking like I didn't. I had never
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: identified like I knew I was curvier than some of
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: the other Like Okay, look, I've led my whole life
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: in a society.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: World where I go to events.
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I go to Galla's, everyone's a size zero and everyone
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: looked a certain way, and then there's me.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: But I never kind of felt of myself as like
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: the plus size.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: One, Like I'd never It's certainly not something i'd openly said.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: And I actually in that moment it was like I had.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: It was like she had like daggers to my heart,
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: Like I understand that it was such a shameful thing
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: because in my mind, I'm thinking, all these people are
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: going to see me on the housewive, They're gonna see
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: me this fabulous life, Like it's gonna be amazing every
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: guy I've turned out, every job I've been fired from, Like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: you're all gonna see me.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: And then she's like, and you're plus.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Size and.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: That is so completely messed up, Like I am trying
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: to picture a scenario where you didn't even discuss that beforehand,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and she just pulls that out.
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I turned to her. It just came
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: out of me.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: I said, I'm not plus size, I'm my size and
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: hashtag my size rocks because I was like, who are
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: you to label me?
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Like this is my size. You don't get to put me.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: In whatever box that has been clearly orchestrated around me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: And in that moment, I just like owned.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: I just had like a split second to decide to
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: how to react, and I guess just like my instinct was,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: this is.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: My body, this is my story. I'm gonna own this well.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I can't even tell you. Like it was like that
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: a movement was born. I became because I was sharing openly.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: I would be going on a press tour and like
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: stylists are trying to put me in these designer dresses.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Nothing fits.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to like zip it up, it's like breaking
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: on the seams. And I was like, this is crazy,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: and so I just started designing my own clothes for
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: my own use. Fashion company was born. I became like
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: the face of inclusive fashion. I was the first person
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: to put extra small the three x in one store
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: at the same price, and I demanded that the retailer be, like,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: not put this at like a plus size store in
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: the basement.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I was like, I.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Don't want women to experience the shame I feel when
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: you make me go to some other store for special
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: big girls. And I just really was one of the
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: first people to do that, and it began to you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: some people call me an advocate. I don't know what
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: they call me, but I was. I was I was
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: going to make sure that women didn't have that same
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: negative experience that I had had special moments in their life.
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: I designed wedding gowns, dresses for events like anything.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: You have background in design, No, I have no idea
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you had.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: You had no idea. You just started designing straight out
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: of just because.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Wow the brand and was.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: Like, I need to do this, here's my vision. And
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: I and it really really did well, and so many
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: amazing collections, swimwhear everything. But what was interesting is like
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: I was I stepped into it, but I was also
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: like figuring it out on my own, like I was
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: stepping into my confidence weirdly with the shared experience with
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: the audience and with the viewers and social media, like
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: I was going through it with them. I was trying
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: on Jeanes that I'd never worn before. I was discovering
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: clothes that would actually fit me in brands I was designing,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: and I was having moments that were all they shared
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: these moments. So I was like, I have a wedding
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: coming out. I need something like red black tie to wear.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Can't find a dress that fits a size twelve anywhere
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: the time, twelve was huge, and so.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: At twelve was huge, but I always think of twelve.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Well maybe not anymore, but like I just remember Oprah
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: saying once I would die to fit into a twelve.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: She wheeled out the medium size.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: So much has happened in a few years when it
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: comes to inclusivity, and so it was just crazy. And
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: then what was happening, which was this really kind of
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: dark other side of it was at home I was
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: with this like older finance guy who was not happy
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: to be known as the plus size girls.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Partner, and so my like, I wasn't technically.
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Married, but I had a wedding and everything. So you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: just anyways, this is we need a whole podcast for
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: that relationship.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to dig in there, but I.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Had the full relationship and by all means, I was
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: very committed to it. And I just he was interested
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: in this young girl and this like trophy wife, and
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: my body was with all the travel and the stress
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: and the excitement and everything, I was eating a lot
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: to feel good and I was gaining weight. So it
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: was it was like I stepped into this role and
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: then also was gaining weight. And then at home, my
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: confidence was just being deteriorated because he hated my size
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: and he was like, you're fat, You're ugly, I won't
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: sleep with you. And I'm like having this private experience
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: of sh like all this shame and low self esteem.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: And then on the next day, I'm waking up and
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: getting into a swimsuit I designed with a bunch of
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: models I picked who all have bodies that look like
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: something I can identify with. And then literally shooting a
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: campaign that's going to be on a billboard talking about confidence.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't work when your life's not in sync
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: like that. What happened?
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: When you talk about what was the experience?
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: It's been such a journey in this time since I've
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: done the show, I've put on weight. I've now lost
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: sixty pounds in a very hodiful way. I had two children,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I got remarried, I fell in love, I built an app,
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: I built a company, and it's all just happened out
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: of just letting go of all the toxicity and just
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: being fully.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: Confident in who I am.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: And now my body is a beautiful twelve again, and
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I'm happy and I own every aspect of who I am.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: And along the way, thousands and thousands and thousands of
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: women have felt a sense of empowerment.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: So it's been this weird journey. I love that.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Can I go back to the show for one second.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I just have a question, two questions, Why was it canceled?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And also were you devastated when it was canceled.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: I really wanted it to come back because it felt
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: like my only lifeline at the moment when I did
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: the show, and the show came out.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: It was like I knew it was my out if
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that makes sense from the relationship that I was in.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: So I was I had this like high flying career
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: when I was young, living all over the world working
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: and advertising for American Express, and I was like, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: had a pretty big career. And then this guy was like,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: I don't want you to work, and he's like, it
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: makes more sense for you to travel with me and
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: be with me, and you don't need money.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: So where's this guy now? I just have to know.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like he's a villain character and like Bonfire
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the Vanities, not a bad.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Person, but he was suffering from a lot of addiction
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: and a lot of things that made.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Him do some very mean and cruel things.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: But I don't very magnanimous of you.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: Wow, it wasn't for that journey, I would have never
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: ended up with my husband. My husband is literally he
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: was the tax on this beautiful love I have. Now
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: I have beautiful times with him, but there were some
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: very toxic times.
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: But he made me into this powerful.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Woman that I was a bit of already, but it
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: just magnified.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: So I thank him.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's very evolved. I still curse all my ex boyfriends.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: No, I really am grateful that I went through experiences
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: that taught me what love is supposed to look like,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: what life, How I can live life like.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: I learned a lot and it brought me to my
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: now husband.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: And so I if I go back to the show
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: at that moment that no one ever canceled us.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like you're canceled. It's like they put us
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: on hold.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: And I was like, when does the whole end? Do
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I start shopping for next season? Do I start like
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: getting ready, like I mean limbo? And so I was
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: in limbo for a long time and very attached to
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: the idea because it felt like my only way out.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Did the other ladies feel like that too, Like they
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: were just waiting and waiting and waiting.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: And everyone kept on waiting and waiting and waiting and saying.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, when did you guys like stop waiting?
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: One day, I just stopped waiting.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: It was like a relationship, you know, it's like a
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: weird relationship.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: I just stopped waiting one day.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: I was like this, people are never calling me, like
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's happening. And we had a lot
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: of complications with our cast.
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: Let's say, how do we say that?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Just like that? I think that's a perfect way of
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: putting it. Only you guys, with our listeners, I'm sure
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: we as well know we have an inkling about what
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you're talking about. We know what complications.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Let's say this in the world of housewives, it's great
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: for drama, juicy the women who have no self awareness,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: they make great TV.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: But the drama can't be drama.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: That actually interferes with you making a TV show, right
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: exactly same like it's supposed to still be fun, ladies,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: and when it goes too far, it's and you have
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: like all of this stuff happening in people's private lives
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: that is like from the show, but now it's happening
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: off screen.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: That's not useful for producers. And so when you have
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: all of these things going on.
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: In the background that are insane, it makes it difficult
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: for producers to make a TV show, which at the
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: end of the day, you need people to show up
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: and start filming a TV show.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: You're like, where are you?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Because I hate her and I'm doing her and it's like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: well wait, what so.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question? And please if I'm overstepping,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you do not have to answer. But being somebody who's
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: body positive and I come from a world where I
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: used to be much thinner than I am now I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: am not considered like overweight, but I definitely feel the
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: way game. How what do you ever get tempted by
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the all the new diet drugs, especially now that you're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: going to be back on TV.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, how could you not be tempted? It's like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: but also I want to like release this shame about.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: This, Like, no, no shame about it, just question.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Even Okay for me, I've had a really complex journey
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: with food and loving my body and falling.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: In love with myself.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Welcome me.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I had to do this my way.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: I had to do this in a way that was sustainable,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and that was about my health and my relationship with food.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: And I've spent years doing that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: And I really am at a point where I feel
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: incredible and healthy. I birthed two beautiful children in my
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: late thirties, Like it was, it's been a transformation that
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: everybody's watched. That being said, I courage every single human
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: being to do whatever they need to do to get healthy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: It's like really challenging food stuff, overeating, struggling with your way.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: This stuff is hard to manage.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is. You are preaching to the court, singing
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: to the court, preaching to schools that.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Are going to make you feel good.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Do it, and just don't look at other people and say, oh,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: because she leads this life, it's easy for her, but
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: not for me. It's not easy. It's not easy for people.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: But it's very tempting for people to look at someone's
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: life on social media and say, oh, well, because she's rich,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: or she has a chef, or she has this.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: I don't have a chef.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: First of all, I have I run a startup, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I have two babies.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I have a lot. I'm busy as well.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Are you getting that kind of backlash?
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: Are people being haters?
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: They're not haters, but they're like, well, it's easy for
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: you to say you lost the way, you have a trainer,
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: you have this, and.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, not easy.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Period a single morning after not sleeping with a newborn
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: and worked out. I worked out till the day before
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: I gave birth. I've been watching to eat, like, so,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: don't look at other people's lives and say oh, because
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: it's them.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: They can do it, but.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I can't do it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: That doesn't serve you.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: My message to everyone is just take ownership of your
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: own health.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Don't blame anyone.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: It is on you.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: We all go through.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Bad things, a lot of people are victims of horrible stuff.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that you can't take control of your life.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: So that's when I say, with that, does that answer it? Yeah? Yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, listen, it's basically everybody has to do what's
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: right for their own life.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: And if you're tempted, explore it, talk about it with
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: your doctor. It might be great for you. I would
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent be I tell everyone I would be
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: open with doing anything. I want to do all the
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: things to be the best, and I'm not going to experience.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: Any shame around them. And I think that's the weird
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: part is people being like and I'm like what, And I'm.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Like, oh.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: My god.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: You know it's changed already just in the short amount
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: of time.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Whispering about it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I'd be telling you it's like when you got a
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: great new skincare serum.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: Friends not high at Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Well, in the very short time that ozempic and and
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: drugs like ozempic have been around. I think there's been
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: such a shift in the way that people do view them,
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: and I think a lot of that is because of
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: the fact that people are open. I think that that's
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: happened with things like plastic surgery. I think that the
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: more people are open about it, the less shame there is,
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: and every the attitude becomes whatever it is that makes
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: you happy, that makes you feel good. I mean that's
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I've always been very open about all of those whatever
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: process or procedure I'm trying because like you, it's like
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I like to share it. If it's making me feel good.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Who knows, maybe it'll make you feel good. But I
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: feel like there's the stigma has dropped out a little bit.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Although I have to be fully authentic, I'm not one
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: hundred percent on the everybody do what works for you thing.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I think there does need to be some more regulation
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: around who gets access to these kinds of drugs because
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I think that if we encourage people who only have
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: five ten pounds to lose to go on these drugs,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and then you're stuck on them because when you come off,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: you gain it back. You set people off on a
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: cycle of eating disorders and disordered eatings that I have
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a vested in just in not seeing masses of people
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: journey into So I do think there needs to be
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: more regulation. And I don't stand behind people who don't
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: need the drugs going on them.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like with a totally different lens, right, But I
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: would say to I answer your question the most honestly
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: I can. I don't know anyone who has struggled with
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: weight their whole life who isn't tempted by all of
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: these being bombarded by all the born afters of Look.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: How amazing miracle.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: But I have learned in every aspect of my life
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: that there is no miracle answer for anything.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, put in the hard work in everything.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: That is the only way true, good, solid, long lasting
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: things are built. It is in relationships in your body.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of which, speaking of work that you put in,
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: tell us about your app please.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, this is another beautiful journey on our fertility app.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: So my husband, who's this incredible fertility doctor, doctor Arnold,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: he has a practice here in Beaveraly Hills now, and
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: when what was happening is all, first of all, everybody
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: wanted to see him and not everybody can see him
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: because he's in one place.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: And so that combined with.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Our own journey of me being told before I met
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Arnold that I would need IVS and I went to
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: two fancy doctors in California and they both said, you're
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: gonna need IVF, and I just so happened to fall
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: in love with the fertility doctor.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Ah oh, I love that. It was just like it
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: was perfect.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: And I said to him almost like I think it
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: was our first date. I was like, well, I've been
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: told I need IVF and he was like, okay, well wait.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Were you Were you trying to get pregnant at the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: time with your eggs? Oh, so you to see what
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: your fertility status was.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: I wanted to freeze my eggs, oh got it, okay,
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: because I knew I wasn't having a baby anytime soon.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: He had promised we would have kids for years and
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: years and years, and't it it just never Well, good thing,
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: thank god, And.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: So I wanted to freeze my eggs.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I went to these doctors in California and both of
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: them are like, well, yeah, you're gonna need to freeze
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: your eggs and you're going to need to do IVF.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: So it's a good thing you're here.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: And I was very it's a big thing to carry
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: as a woman, and so when I was single, like,
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: that's a lot to carry on your shoulders. And so
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: I just so happened to fall in love with the
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: fertility doctor.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: I'm telling him this story.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: And so when we wanted when we were ready for children,
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: we he was like, before we do any IVF, first
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: of all, we're going to like make some changes. And
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: he really helped me like transform some lifestyle things, some diets,
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: some supplements. We started using like proper tracking. Most trackers
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: in apps are not accurate, so we were tracking my
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: ovulation correctly and low on behold, I got pregnant at
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: thirty eight naturally, and then I get up thirty nine naturally.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: And a lot of people.
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: Were interested in the story in our journey, and so
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: we turned his program into an app called on a Fertility,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: which allows people to get pregnant at home. And what
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: it does is in the US, especially if you walk
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: into a fertility clinic to get advice about your fertility,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: you're going to be sold IVF or you're going to
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: be sold egg freezing. It's like walking into a bakery
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: and not being sold bread, do you know what I mean?
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: And so IVF is like really over sold in this
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: country and we wanted to change that because not everybody
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: needs it. There is a lot of data around the
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: fact that a lot of people who are getting it
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: are getting it who would have otherwise got pregnant if
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: they made small changes in their life. Wow, well you
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: can do at home. We've done a lot of research
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: on this ourselves and done a lot of studies.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And I went through five rounds of IVF myself, so
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I know, but I destroyed my fertility with my anorexia.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: But so I think this is so useful and so
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: important because it is so texting on your body and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: your mental health, your physical health.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: It's really really difficult. Oh it's so expensive.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: And you tell us, like one thing that you you
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: can suggest that's not you know, under the umbrella of
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: IVF that is helpful in terms of fertility, Like what
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: do you what is one of the things that you got.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Download anestly.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: Download our app on a because what it does is
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: it takes you through all the aspects.
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: It's like it has you.
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: It's like linked to your wearable if you're using a
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: wearable and like tracking your your movement, your basal body temperature.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: It talks about nutrition, about the types of workouts you
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: should be doing, a different types of your cycle. Our
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: hormone horoscopes tells you the kinds of things that you
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: need to be consuming and doing. We also have a
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: mental health piece for it, because stress is a huge
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: impact on fertility, and it's a craftful experience. So there's
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: like daily think, daily pump ups and meditations that you're
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: doing to keep your body calm, your mind calm.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Also it is.
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: Does this medical diagnostics that you go through and then
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: gives you a personalized recommendation of what supplements you should
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: be taking. And then it says here's the different supplements.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Take these different things, and then it can even send
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: you the medication to your house if you do need
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: a little bit of medication. But all of that and
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: you can chat directly with the fertility doctor who is
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: my husband, doctor Arnold, And so it's like for all
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: of the patients who can't see this doctor in Beverly Hills,
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: you have access to what he would do if you
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: sack down in front of him in your first visit
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: before you get to iv He has a lot of
• 38:02
  Speaker 5: incredible patients who need IVF and for them it's a miracle.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: How did you know how to start an app?
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't know if I can't even turn on
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: my TV half the time, how did you know how
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: to start an app?
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: Maybe? I built companies.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I do. Business nice, crazy.
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: I all developers learned the business, built out the medical
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: diagnostic tools with Arnold, got to know what our patients
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: really needed and wanted. We studied them, built something amazing
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: and wonderful stories have come out of it. And we
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: then launched in Canada and lots of people were using
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: it and people are getting pregnant and so literally this
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: week we launch in the US.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm happy that it's amazing. I'm feeling both inspired
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and wildly under accomplished straight now.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: Well, it's very important to give access to care, like
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: the medical space is so gated, and I just so
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: happy and to have this incredible doctor with me who
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: told me what to do. If I didn't have him,
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: I would have gone back to that fertility clinic. Spent
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: thirty thousand dollars a pop on IVF, had a lot
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: of trauma from that to my body and you know,
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: my mind and gone through that whole process, and it
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: would have been totally unnecessary.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: We had interviewed a while back Maria Minunos, and she
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: has had quite a bit of you know, health struggle
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: issues and scared, not just scared, she's dealing with a lot,
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: but so she has not just taken the traditional approach.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: She has also looked into methods that are really serving
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: her and she has she said, brain tumors and hype
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: one diabetes. But she said some things to us when
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: we spoke with her, just about like staring at the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: sun and that can do in terms of you know,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: we're always told to stay away from the sun anyway.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm digressing, but I think it's always so
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: interesting to find people who have answers that are not
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: necessarily the ones that traditional medicine are providing.
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: You know, totally, we're very we're very intertwined with Chinese medicine,
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: nature past and if you follow Arnold Instagram is doctor
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Arnold MD. He talks about a lot of these things
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: to do, but I'd say one big tip is inflammation.
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: Managing inflammation through diet is a real has a really
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: important impact on your fertility, on the state of your
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: uterine environment, on your ability to get pregnant, and he
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: has found that managing inflammation with his patients has been
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: the game changer for them.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Wow, you feel like you're done now or are you
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: going to put your app to use?
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: For number three?
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I unfortunately got very sick when I gave birth to
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: my daughter.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Died, So wow, you've had interesting life.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Wow, it was really stressful.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: I got sepsis and a rare case of it, and
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I was in the ICU.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Oh right after birth.
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: And so after that they said I wouldn't be able
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: to have any more children, and I just sort of
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: thought that was like god sway of saying or our family,
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: You're comple.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Was did did anything transfer to your daughter during birth
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: or in utero?
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: No?
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Thank God? And you're totally healthy. Fine, now everything great.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: I've ever been like, definitely much with death as you.
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: If you weren't motivated to take care of your health
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: before you, I mean I was, but I was even
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: more like now, I'm like obsessed with health and wellness.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: So you've got the You've got the fashion line, that's
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: where is that being sold in stores?
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Where is that?
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Where can people find that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: Oh, I honestly had done I think fifteen collections and
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: so I've just put it to rap because I'm so
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: busy with my fashion, with not my action line, with
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: the app, and so it was that's an all consuming thing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: And so I did my last collection about eight months.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Ago, and then I decided that I just.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Have to be fully focused on everything we're doing with Anna.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: There's so much excitement.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: And it's just where my interests, Like, you've got to
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: keep evolving creatively, and that's just where my interests were
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll bet you if Toronto, when Toronto comes back
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: and people look at you and your style and what
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: you've got going on, I bet You're going to get
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: some requests to bring back I'll ask.
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: But the thing is is that I everyone's like, why
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: if your left collection sold out, Like, why wouldn't you
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: do it again? And I was like, because I need
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: to keep evolving of what is.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Inspiring me in this moment.
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Like I had a lot of ideas that I really
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: wanted to get out in fashion.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I got those out and now I'm like obsessed with
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: everything that's happening in.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Fertility and wellness and women women's health, and like, the
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: more I learn about it, the more I understand that
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: it's so many gatekeepers, it's not accessible to so many women.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: And I was like, the whole reason for the fashion
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: line was to have an impact on someone who wasn't
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: able to get something that would fit them.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Like it started. I'm obsessed with fashion.
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: I love fashion, but it started because I wanted to
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: help change a moment in their life where they felt
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: shame or where they would literally miss a wedding because
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: they didn't have something to wear. That's where that started.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: And so my goal of empowering and inspiring women is
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: just keeps evolving.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: And this is where it's brought me now.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I love that. Can I just tell you what I
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: so relate to that because and I know it was
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: a really long time ago, but I was very overweight
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: in high school and I wrote a book and I
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: wrote about this in my book that I had a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: really hard time with the whole prom dress shopping because
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: everyone in high school, all the stores in the wall
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: are catered to women being like, at the most a
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: size eight, and I couldn't find a dress. And I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: would watch all of the other seventeen eighteen year olds
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: buying these tiny little dresses, and I would go into
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: stores and absolutely nothing would fit me, and I had
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to have something made, and like the dry cleaner made
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: something from my mom found someone to make me a
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: dress and it was a mess and it was just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like one long piece of felt.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: And I honestly felt so awful at my prom.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: And the whole experience of shopping when nothing fits you
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: is unless you've been through it, it is so draining
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: and amiliating and exhausting, and so I like applaud you.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I was in high school and with my best friend
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: shopping and there was nothing, and she said to me
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: in a dressing room, maybe we should go over to
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: She was very like Lane Bryant or and I remember
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: being so insulted. Yeah, and it was the truth. There
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: was nothing to fit me. I needed to go to
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Lane Bryant. But I was if you guys listeners, that's
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: like a plus size store. Is it still around? I
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: think it is.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I think it is.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: There was a store in my wall called five seven nine.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Did you know about that?
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: So?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Did they have that in Canada? Oh my god, what
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: a disaster.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: It was like basically to like the sizes five seven nine,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: but they weren't five seven nine. Everything was like a
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: size zero two or a four and four was the
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: biggest you could get, and like to even have a
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: store like that.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It was so humiliating to somebody.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: Andy Melville is like that, I think, yeah, it's hard.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I think it was an interesting space to be in.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: I loved it, but I did it at a time
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: when no one was doing it, and I was very
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: proud of all the work that I've done. But now
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: I feel like there are choices, and so I'm on
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: to conquer and disrupt.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: The next industry. I love that you have to just
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: and everyone's like.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: But we want anything suits and I was like, I know, okay,
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: just wait for me to retire and then I'll do
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: a resort.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: We're alyve like, I just can't right now. I can't
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: do everything.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: So when you have time, you have time to be
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: a mom and do the app and film the show.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but I can't also then also run my clothing
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: line right afore.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have to chick and choose.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I have to, and why not leave when something successful
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: before it ends up on like the sales rack and
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: the outlet for you.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I love that well, I love that we're interviewing you
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: during like International Women's Month because you're so inspiring and
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for women like you in the world because
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you put a lot of good into the world.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: And you guys, you guys are thank you and.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Entertaining people don't. Don't.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Let's not that we're entertainers and we're people's escape when
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: they're sitting at home.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: They're like, we just I loved watching you.
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: It's like a mom from your own life that you
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: just get to like to be in someone else's world.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and for sure that like the Housewives, Past Housewives,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: kind Housewives, anyone who's ever been.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: A housewife or on these shows.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: It's almost like you know what each other is going through,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: even if you don't love each other like a sorority.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: It truly is you have something that a few people understand.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: But I've met.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Girls from actually met girls from your show, and I've
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: met girls from other New York shows, let's say, and there.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: I remember like Ramona turns to me and I better
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: week and I was like, oh, I'm in the real
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: houses at Toronto.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: She's like, I've never heard of that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: And I was like, so it sounds like her like
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: how many seasons did you know? And I was like, oh,
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: I've just done one season. She was like, I've done
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: like twenty or I don't know when I don't have any.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: That was part of it, I have to say, And
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: only Ramona Ramona's case, could that be part of the charm?
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Only she could pull up.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe not for you in that moment, but she was
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: when you say, no self awareness, like that's Ramona.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: But and we were like show and I was already
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: self conscious because I was like the plus size one
• 48:03
  Speaker 5: at the show. And I don't know that's my own issue.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: But it was just like not all, not all of
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: the women are like, oh, you're not in my sorority, honey,
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Oh well.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: You're in our sorority. And when the show comes back,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Jen and I would would love to fly to Toronto
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: to be at the premiere party.
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Well let's I.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: Mean, I don't know that the next tomorrow there's gonna
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: be like a there's gonna be an article that Roxy.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Says the show I did. I just for the.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Record, I'm manifesting and I can't stand that one we're manifesting.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: I like that word.
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Yes, no confornimation. You could give me advice.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: You probably know better than me, like, how does it
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: actually work?
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: How long do they make you? Wait?
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: That's Jackie, she knows way better than me.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: Do you actually hear? Like I actually wanted to know?
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: You may be able a friend. It's all different.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got a six, it's all about money, right,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: So if the pilot gets advertising, then you're on.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: You know it'll be a go.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's all the TV world, Like sometimes
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I cancel things that I don't know, Like they just
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: canceled VANDR Punk rolls right like the current cast and
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: they were.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Like killing it. So I don't know. Sometimes I don't
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: know how it works.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know either.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know if any of us are going back
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: to the house. I this is the answer, but they
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: were all, you're going. Can someone let us all know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: like a group email would be helpful.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, and are going to try to make an
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: app so we have something to do just exactly so
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: An app for you. I have a big I have
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: some ideas.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I have some idea a menopause menopause app.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we need a menopause I.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Already built a menopause app and we'd use it privately
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: with some of Arnold's menopause patients. And I think that's
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: another space that has so much un known information.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Like starting it's actually though it's starting to take off.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: I see a lot of menopause pages, a lot of
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: like Tamson Fidal, who was a newscaster for a long time.
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: She has created a whole sorority. How about we call
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: it that of women who I know are dedicated to
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: addressing menopause and talking about it out loud and again
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: like taking a stigma of it, you know, and away.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: And so that's exciting.
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: Think you've privately done that with our patients, and it's
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: just for a few people.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: We just like testing ideas and stuff.
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: But we are very very focused on We're very very
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: focused on fertility right now because it's just it's sure lane,
• 50:40
  Speaker 5: it's really important to manage right now. That's just a
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: big enough business. It's in terms of like so many
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: people without access, Like once I've conquered that, and I
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: feel like I've successfully disrupted the industry. If people walk
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: into a fertility clinic and on our immediately oversold IVF
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: and people start trying things at home before they walk
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: into a fertility doctor's office or before they start IVF.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: Then I feel like we've done a bit of our job.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: And then for all the amazing people who needed they
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: see people like Arnold, who isn't one of these big clinics.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: He's just solo doctor doing great work.
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: And so it's like how medicine was supposed to be,
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Once those things have all returned,
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: then maybe I can change my right but.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: That's my focus.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Well, you're super inspiring. I'm so glad we got a
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: chance to meet you. I've loved talking to you.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Same. Thank you, ladies.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: So where can people find you?
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: My Instagram's luxurious Roxy. My husband's is doctor Arnold m Z.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: It's also a pleasure last name.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: His last name is Mahesen. Oh I how to pronounce it,
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: So we just say doctor makes me love it.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: But we are really, really really hoping that we are
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: going to see you on our TVs and not just
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: our Instagram feeds.
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: So YouTube back on.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: You appreciate that, We appreciate that.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe must.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Start in summer because nobody is filming in New Jersey
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: in the winter.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, we used to.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: We used to start in March every year, and they
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: used to before I got on it seven years ago.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: They used to film over the holidays, and.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I love getting Christmas.
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: How do you bring the outfits in the snow? It's
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: so much harder.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: There's not a ton of snow here. It's just bitter cold.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Okay, because like I'm like in Stiletto's in a snowstorm.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this isn't a look.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's well, the humidity is no joke either.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: In the summer.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So you know, I've had many of the horrific I
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: don't even want to call it a bad hair day.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I'll call it a horrific hair day on the show.
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: Well, if I start seeing really good GLAMs showing up
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: on your Instagram's ladies come summer, and you know, your
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: mouth to God's.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: Ear, it's like, thank you so much, thank you, Roxy,
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: what a pleasure.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: With all of you, and sending you lots of love
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: and good energy.
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: To you to you as well, Okay. By my sorority sisters,
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: My sister