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INTERVIEW: John Morgan Talks 'Life is Luck,' Career Journey, Johnnie Cochran, Rival Lawyers, James Dolan + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago, clicks.
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  Speaker 2: Done morning.
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  Speaker 3: the Breakfast Club. La La Rose is here with us
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  Speaker 3: as well. We got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen his commercial, you heard his name before.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure you've even seen his picture. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: we have attorney John Morgan. How is it going? How
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  Speaker 3: you feeling now? You just the way that you put
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  Speaker 3: your ads out is kind of like a Beyonce, a
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  Speaker 3: Tailor Swift when they release an album. I mean you
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  Speaker 3: see it all over the place. You see it everywhere,
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  Speaker 3: commercials for All Star, super.
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  Speaker 2: Bowl, everything. So Morgan and Morgan is for the people.
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  Speaker 3: Morgan and Morgan is for the people. So let's start
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  Speaker 3: off from the beginning. How a young paper boy delivering
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  Speaker 3: papers got to this multi billion dollar uh I would
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  Speaker 3: say empire that you've accumulated. So how did you start
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  Speaker 3: off and what made you want to be an attorney?
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to be an attorney When I was a
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  Speaker 1: sophomore in college. I got a call from my dad,
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  Speaker 1: my brother Tim was a lifeguard at Walt Disney World
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  Speaker 1: and he calls me. He says, Tim's been in an accident.
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  Speaker 1: He's paralyzed from the chin down. And there began that journey,
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  Speaker 1: and Disney was very tough. We were poor, you know, hopeless, helpless, powerless.
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  Speaker 1: It's a terrible place to be. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: bad things happened to my brother during that time, and
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  Speaker 1: I became enraged, and I said to myself, you know,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, I'm terrible in math and terrible in size.
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  Speaker 1: So I wasn't gonna be a doctor or CPA. And
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  Speaker 1: so I went into law, and this is all I've
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  Speaker 1: ever done. I decided I wanted to do this type
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  Speaker 1: of law to make sure that people like my brother
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  Speaker 1: Tim got a fair shake. And so I went to
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  Speaker 1: law school and graduated from the University of Florida. I
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  Speaker 1: only applied at personal injury law firms. And here we are,
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  Speaker 1: you know, many years later.
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  Speaker 3: But there's a lot of injury attorneys out there, but
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  Speaker 3: none of them are as successful as you. What got
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  Speaker 3: you to that level Because there's a lot of attorney
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  Speaker 3: injury turners. It sometimes, you know, they call ambulance chasers
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  Speaker 3: and all these different names. But nobody has got to
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  Speaker 3: the point that you've got what what made people trust
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  Speaker 3: you and sign up with your firm over all these
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  Speaker 3: other firms that.
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  Speaker 2: Go out there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure, except I spent a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time working. I mean I lived in union halls, I
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  Speaker 1: drank and dive bars with the union leaders, and I
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  Speaker 1: kind of built it brick by brick. When I got
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  Speaker 1: into this business. A few years before, you weren't even
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  Speaker 1: allowed to advertise as a lawyer. There was a case
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  Speaker 1: called Bates versus Arizona the Supreme Court that lawyers could
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  Speaker 1: even advertise, so it was verboten you. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: didn't advertise if you were a lawyer. But I was
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  Speaker 1: just into the business at that point in time, and
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  Speaker 1: I told my wife, I said, look, and I was
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  Speaker 1: getting a lot of cases from these guys on TV,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, this train is leaving the station. And
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  Speaker 1: what a lot of people got to look at is
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  Speaker 1: sometimes trains do leave the station. If you don't get
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  Speaker 1: on the train, you're gonna get run over by the train.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, I got to do this, and so
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  Speaker 1: I went. I borrowed a hundred thousand dollars from bank
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  Speaker 1: people asked me, why one hundred. The other bank said
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  Speaker 1: fifty one, guy said one hundred. So I take them up.
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  Speaker 1: And so fast forward. What I did, and what I
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  Speaker 1: would tell people entrepreneurs is if you're going to scale
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  Speaker 1: a business, especially when you're young, you have to to scale.
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  Speaker 1: You had to take your profits and pour it back
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  Speaker 1: into building the business. So I did Orlando, then I
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  Speaker 1: did Tampa, and then I did Jacksonville, and then I
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  Speaker 1: did Fort Myers Naples, and then I did Miami. And
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  Speaker 1: instead of buying a boat or a car, I expanded
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  Speaker 1: and people, as you know, I didn't make a million
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  Speaker 1: dollars until I was forty one years old. That's the
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  Speaker 1: first year I made a million dollars. But then I
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  Speaker 1: kept growing it and then at some point in time,
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  Speaker 1: all those cities start to take root and sprout. And
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  Speaker 1: so from that one hundred thousand dollars, this year, we'll
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  Speaker 1: spend almost six hundred million in advertising. Wow, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: do two point four billion dollars in revenue. And the
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  Speaker 1: real secret to our success, which a lot of lawyers
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  Speaker 1: don't do. We try a lot of cases. We make
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  Speaker 1: our money in the courtroom. A lot of people make
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  Speaker 1: money taking the last best offer. No, we grab them
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  Speaker 1: by that back of the neck, and dragons.
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  Speaker 2: They grab by the balls. But you can I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: you might be in some files or something, But let
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  Speaker 2: me ask you what that?
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  Speaker 1: How do you.
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  Speaker 3: How do you decide what cases you're going to take it?
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  Speaker 3: What cases you're not right? Because although the victim you
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  Speaker 3: can get them a lot of money, but the person
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  Speaker 3: sometimes you're suing, you can destroy them, totally, take them
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  Speaker 3: out of business where they can't work ever. Again, Like,
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  Speaker 3: let's take an example of let's say an older gentleman
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  Speaker 3: that lives in Brooklyn that has a brown stone that
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  Speaker 3: didn't get out early enough to shovel a snow right,
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  Speaker 3: somebody slips on the ice, they get hurt, they get sued,
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  Speaker 3: But you also have the power to take everything from
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  Speaker 3: him as well. So how do you decide what are
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  Speaker 3: you going to do? And morally, how do you decide
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  Speaker 3: how far are you going to take it?
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  Speaker 1: I think about that all the time because and here's how,
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  Speaker 1: here's how I deal with it. First of all, I've
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  Speaker 1: never done that. I've never done that. How do I
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  Speaker 1: get around that? There's a concept called bad faith. If
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  Speaker 1: the insurance company doesn't operating good faith and they don't
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  Speaker 1: tender the limits, and we go get a verdict. That
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  Speaker 1: difference between the limits and our verdict is called bad faith,
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  Speaker 1: and then we go and sue the insurance company for
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  Speaker 1: bad faith and take care of that gentleman who's property
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  Speaker 1: the injury took place on it. So here I am.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all these years later, not one time have
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  Speaker 1: I ever gone against an individual. I don't think I could.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I could, because you know, depending on
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  Speaker 1: where you're from, if you've ever been up against the wall,
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  Speaker 1: it's a bad place to be. And so if that
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  Speaker 1: ever came to be, it would not be a case
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  Speaker 1: that Morgan and Morgan. I would never go against somebody
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  Speaker 1: personally to come and take money out of their bank account.
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  Speaker 1: I take it from the insurance company's bad faith policy.
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  Speaker 4: Got you know, you know Morgan and Morgan and slogan
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  Speaker 4: is for the people, right, But you've also been one
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  Speaker 4: of the most powerful corporations in America. How do you
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  Speaker 4: keep those two missions from conflicting.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you you have to keep your eye on the ball,
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  Speaker 1: and it's all about people. You know, I've been what
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  Speaker 1: I've been impressed with coming here today. You got an empire,
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  Speaker 1: but you've got a lot of people making that empire click.
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  Speaker 1: And when I look at my life and I look
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  Speaker 1: at my business, I could give you the names of
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of people that if they hadn't been there
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  Speaker 1: with me, I might not be here. And sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: hear these quarterbacks on you know they're thinking their offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: They need to thank their offensive line. Because if you
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  Speaker 1: don't have an offensive line that I saw that you
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  Speaker 1: have from here today, you can't be who you are.
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  Speaker 1: And so I've been very lucky in spotting talent and
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  Speaker 1: developing talent. Here's how I look at people. If I
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  Speaker 1: send somebody something over and over again to the point
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  Speaker 1: that I know, if I send it, I don't have
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  Speaker 1: to worry about it, I call it sind delete. So
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  Speaker 1: I send you something, I don't have to worry about
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  Speaker 1: it anymore. I delete it. Once I find that sin
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  Speaker 1: delete person, I then elevate them, and then I ruthlessly,
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  Speaker 1: ruthlessly delegate their task and then we and then you
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  Speaker 1: got to pay them, you know, I tell people, So
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  Speaker 1: you pay your people for big time. Listen, I believe
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  Speaker 1: in Florida. I believe what's ail in America is the
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  Speaker 1: when people can't live on what they're making, there's no
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  Speaker 1: little WAYE So what I did in Florida, and it
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  Speaker 1: was also a good experiment. I spent tens of millions
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  Speaker 1: of dollars of my own money to pass a cop
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  Speaker 1: institutional amendment to raise the minimum ways to fifteen dollars
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  Speaker 1: an hour. It was eight dollars an hour when I
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  Speaker 1: did this thing. And I'm like, you know, let's just
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  Speaker 1: see what happens. Everybody told me, he said, John, you're romantic.
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  Speaker 1: You know this isn't gonna happen nobody in Florida. You
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  Speaker 1: got to get sixty percent of the vote to pass
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  Speaker 1: the constitutional amendment. Guess what, We passed it with sixty
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  Speaker 1: three percent of the vote. And then here's what I
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  Speaker 1: learned by that that most of us, when you take
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  Speaker 1: a D down and an R down from behind our
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  Speaker 1: political affiliation, that most of us agree on most things
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  Speaker 1: if you take the D in the R down. And
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  Speaker 1: I did the same thing. I did the same thing
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  Speaker 1: my brother tid of the guy who got hurt. He
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  Speaker 1: needed marijuana to take care of his pain, take care
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  Speaker 1: of his spasms. And so I did the same thing
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  Speaker 1: with and I legalized medical marijuana in the state of Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And so what I say about paying people this, if
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  Speaker 1: you want to build a great circus, the greatest show
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  Speaker 1: on earth, people go to the circus to see the
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  Speaker 1: guy eating by the lines and the guy fall off
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  Speaker 1: the high wire.
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  Speaker 2: That's christou'd be going to. When people getting eaten by the.
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  Speaker 1: Line, well, we're hoping that they are. We're hoping that
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  Speaker 1: That's why people go to NASCAR. They want to see
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  Speaker 1: the they want to see the crash. They you know,
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  Speaker 1: they want to see the disaster. Then they're sad after
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  Speaker 1: they see it. But the way you don't get eaten
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  Speaker 1: by the lines and the tiger is you pay them
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  Speaker 1: and you love them. You feed them and you love them.
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  Speaker 1: And the way you don't fall off of the wire
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  Speaker 1: the high wire is you focus. So my business philosophy
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  Speaker 1: is focus, feed them, love them, and then the lines
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  Speaker 1: and tigers will give you the greatest show on earth.
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  Speaker 5: How do you keep your the clients that you're working
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  Speaker 5: for kind of on that train of like things will
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  Speaker 5: work out eventually, and not being hungry for the money.
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  Speaker 5: Talking about feeding them because most people want to ask
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  Speaker 5: for like five figures, but y'all go in and get
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  Speaker 5: way more money than that. And a lot of times
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  Speaker 5: with these type of cases, people talk about how people
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  Speaker 5: will go back and just keep suing people trying to
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  Speaker 5: get money, Like how do you balance that? Because people
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  Speaker 5: need what they need like times of heart.
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  Speaker 1: Well, when people need money, the hardest thing is people
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  Speaker 1: need money and they want to get it now, and
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  Speaker 1: there are funding companies. In some states you can advance
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  Speaker 1: the client money. In some states you can't. The hardest
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  Speaker 1: thing sometimes is to make the client say, please be patient,
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  Speaker 1: please be patient, and sometimes you can get an advance
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  Speaker 1: on their case. I don't like to do it because
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  Speaker 1: he's funding companies charge you know, Tony Soprano type rates.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a delicate balance because when people here's the
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  Speaker 1: business I'm in, everybody that I'm represent and had something
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  Speaker 1: taken from them. They had their job taken from them,
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  Speaker 1: their health taken from them, their their lifestyle, their enjoymental life.
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  Speaker 1: Something has been taken from them, and our job is
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  Speaker 1: to try to put it back together the very best
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  Speaker 1: way we can.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's an interesting point, because you're right.
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  Speaker 4: Do you ever wrestle with the idea that your success
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  Speaker 4: is tied to other people's tragedies.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like being a funeral director. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's that, it's yeah, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: like that. I had a client come in one time
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  Speaker 1: his son was killed Domino's delivery truck when of these
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  Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or less deliveries killed his son on a moped. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in Orlando. And he walked in my office and we
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  Speaker 1: walked in my office. He sees me and he collapses
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  Speaker 1: on the couch and he starts crying. You know what.
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  Speaker 1: The first thing he said to me was I never
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be here. I never And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was like yeah. I was like, wow, it is real.
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  Speaker 1: He's looking at me and said I never wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be here. So to your point, yeah, I do, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But on the other hand, on the other hand, the
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  Speaker 1: good we are able to do is overshadows the you know,
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  Speaker 1: being the funeral director and so and we four million
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  Speaker 1: people will try to hire us this year, and thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent of those calls are from former clients who referred
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  Speaker 1: to someone to us. That's an important stat for me
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  Speaker 1: because that means we've been doing something right for a
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  Speaker 1: long long time. And what we've been doing right is winning.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've had some of the biggest cases. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I had to the BP oil spill case. I represented
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  Speaker 1: black farmers in Mississippi. I got I got one point
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  Speaker 1: two billion dollars for black farmers who were discriminated against
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  Speaker 1: in the fifties and sixties. It was a it was
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  Speaker 1: put into law by it was Pelosi and Reid and
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  Speaker 1: Barack Obama sided into law. I had uh uh. We
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  Speaker 1: just hit Google for a half a billion dollars out
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  Speaker 1: in San Francisco. So our cases are against the most
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  Speaker 1: powerful people with unlimited funds. But the good news for
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  Speaker 1: everybody listening is there is something way more powerful than money,
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  Speaker 1: and it's called the truth. The truth is the power,
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  Speaker 1: and that when we see this cigarette industry. I've see
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  Speaker 1: the cigarette industry many, many times, millions of dollars of verdicts.
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  Speaker 1: When they come to trial, they come with unlimited money
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  Speaker 1: and they take us all the way to the Supreme Court.
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  Speaker 1: But guess what if you had the money to hang
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. They got all the money,
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  Speaker 1: but we got all the truth.
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  Speaker 4: Who has more power our influence in America today? Like
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  Speaker 4: one of those billionaire CEOs are a trial lawyer, who
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  Speaker 4: can cost that ceo billions of dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I think I do, and I'll tell you why. When
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  Speaker 1: Johnny Cochran was alive, I helped him build his firm
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  Speaker 1: and it was an incredible journey until he passed away.
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  Speaker 1: When he passed away, we actually had a key Man
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  Speaker 1: life insurance policy on him. But Johnny would say, first
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  Speaker 1: of all that the color of justice in America is green.
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  Speaker 1: And that's true. But Johnny also showed us how he
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  Speaker 1: could come in because he was an unbelievable guy in
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  Speaker 1: the court room, and that the power of the truth
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  Speaker 1: and speaking truth to power. And by the way, all
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  Speaker 1: those CEOs with all their money, at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, there's a set of juror six or twelve
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  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. They have the power. They have
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  Speaker 1: the power. So in many respects, I think I got
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  Speaker 1: the power because I see myself as the civil police.
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  Speaker 1: There's the criminal police. I'm the civil police. You don't
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  Speaker 1: when you go to Russia and China, you don't ever
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  Speaker 1: see cars being recalled. You don't see air bags. They
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  Speaker 1: just they just let them die. The reason America is
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  Speaker 1: great is because we got a great civil justice system,
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  Speaker 1: and we make we make the best cars products in
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  Speaker 1: the world. And the people that are watching those people
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  Speaker 1: are people like me. And if they like you know,
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  Speaker 1: these Takata air bags that are killing people. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's outrageous what's happening. But what I get to do
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  Speaker 1: is I get to change conduct. And the thing that's
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  Speaker 1: maybe most gratifying to me in this whole journey is
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  Speaker 1: as much as the people I've represented, the people I
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  Speaker 1: never had to represent because we changed conduct. Because I
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  Speaker 1: can tell you this, the one thing about corporate America,
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  Speaker 1: they don't give a damn about us. They don't give
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  Speaker 1: a damn about us. The only thing they care about
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  Speaker 1: is money. And the only thing they understand is money
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  Speaker 1: and having to pay money. And so that's the stick.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the night stick.
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  Speaker 4: When you say that's who do you mean? Because you're
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  Speaker 4: worth one point five billion? Like, what do you do
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  Speaker 4: you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Us?
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  Speaker 1: The people?
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  Speaker 2: People? Okay, gotcha? People got you? Gotcha?
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  Speaker 3: For the people are lawsuits ruining the country though, and
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  Speaker 3: not those major lawsuits, but I feel like people's answer
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  Speaker 3: to everything now is a lawsuit. Right, you get into
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  Speaker 3: a car accident, you know, usually you get into a
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  Speaker 3: car accident, be a minor fender bender. You know you ensure,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you you swap insurances, you fix it, you
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  Speaker 3: keep it moving. But now it's it's it's big businesses.
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  Speaker 3: Now I get into an accident. Now I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: do this. Now I slipping fall. I'm going to do
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  Speaker 3: this now? And how do you see who's really hurt,
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  Speaker 3: who's really not who is it? It's really in pain
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  Speaker 3: and really needs the work and really needs the hospital bills,
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  Speaker 3: really needs the money to take care of their family.
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  Speaker 3: And who was doing it? Because it's the best.
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  Speaker 2: What's the best place to slip and fall?
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  Speaker 1: Madison Square Garden? Because I hate that guy? But now,
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  Speaker 1: how do you if you want to if you want
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  Speaker 1: to sue him, go to sue msg dot com. You'll
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  Speaker 1: be talking to me.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, really, why do you hate him so much?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's got these cameras in there. When lawyers that
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  Speaker 1: sue him going there, they got this facial recognition, and
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  Speaker 1: if you're part of that facial they throw you out.
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  Speaker 2: If you're walking there right now, they kicking you up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that rockets everything.
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  Speaker 2: I can't go.
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  Speaker 1: How they throw me out?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: They threw you out before.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't go, but lawyers in my firm Listen, I've
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: got twelve hundred lawyers, lawyers in my firm. Onto the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Rockets kicked out with their family because this James Dolan
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to clean up his dirty places. So that's okay,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: But guess what, I got another lawsuit coming against him
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: because that facial recognition that he was doing has also
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: taken a lot of people's privacy. And I filed a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: class action against him a couple of weeks ago because
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: you walked in, you walked in, you walked in, and
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: that facial recognition got you and then took your information
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and got hacked, and there's been this gigantic data breach
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: and and and listen, one thing that we want is
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: our privacy. Privacy is a hot button issue in America.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: How did your beast old him? Like was it the
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: first lawsuit? And then it just got nasty, like.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: No, he just started saying if you sued, if you
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: sued any of his entities, that he's got this facial
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: recognition when you go in and and and and you're
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you're out. And so look, I've never been a James
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Dolan fan. I got pissed off when he kicked Charles
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Oakley out of the out of the garden, like this
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: guy made the knicks and he hadn't done it. The
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: only thing James Dolan was done was born. He was
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: born with a silver spoon, stuck up his ass and
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: took a fortune and basically destroyed the fortune. And so
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it's kind of was personal to me that my lawyers
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: are getting kicked out. So I decided, look, if nobody
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: wants to sue it Madison Square Garden, I will. So
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: that's why I got the website sue msg dot com.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: What's the line between retaliatory though, like with y'all, with
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: y'all beef right, Like, when does it get like I'm
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: just coming for him? I have this website. Anybody can
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: claim anything. There's an actual thing here.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: No way, Because here's the thing. I get four million
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: calls a year for him. No, no, no, no. In general,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: of those four million, I maybe take seven percent of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the calls to come in. From the seven percent, it
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: probably gets down to five percent. The truth of the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: matter is I don't have the money to be messing
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: around with frivolous lawsuits. And you know who knows when
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it's frivolous. The insurance and they know the best and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: they love it when it's frilllesus because then they can
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: build and drive us. So I don't have to your point,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I don't have the time or the resources to be
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: chasing ghost. I have to be chasing what's legitimate. And
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: by the way, sometimes you're with a client, you figure out,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know what this person is not on the up
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: and up, and when that happens, you got to say goodbye.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Do a lot of people feel like they don't want
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: to go through the process. I remember I was nineteen
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: years old, ride of my motorcycle. Lady hit me, fell
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: banged up pretty bad. Ambulance came, took me to the hospital.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Right called an attorney. I don't remember what wasn't Morgan
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: and Morgan, but I think it was Jacobe Myers, I
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: can't remember. But called the lawyer turning from New York.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: They said I would have to go through this process,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: and it would take six months to go through this process,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: and I have to go to physical therapy every day, and this,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: that and the other. And after one day of doing it,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I couldn't. I was like, I got a job, I'm nineteen,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I got to go back to college.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: I couldn't.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: So I remember calling the insurance company and saying, look,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonnassue you guys, just please pay for my
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: bike and my hospital bills. And they said really, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I'm like yeah, And I remember going there and they
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: gave me a huge check more than all that, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: it made me think, damn, I really could suited them.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I could have got a lot of money.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: But there has to be a lot of.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: People that can't do it. They can't go through the
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: physical therapy. They can't because they'll go injured. You know,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I still got to score all money because of it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: But it's like, what do you do for those people
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: that are physically hurt but they just can't go through
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the process because they got to pay their bills. They
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: have kids, they have families. They have to do what they.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Have to do.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: But it's fed up because they're really in pain. They're suffering.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And that happens all the time. And look, the younger
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: you are, the more resilient. You know, when you're nineteen
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: years old, your bulletproof. Your bulletproof. And for the people
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: who sometimes people have to take a low ball offer
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because they are up against the wall and they can't
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: get financing from a finance company. So sometimes that happens.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It just and by the way, you know, they have
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a strategy which is, you know, delay, deny, deny, deny, delayed, delayed,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: delay and starve you out and starve you out. And
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the bigger the case, the more they do that with
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and they'll just delay it, delay it, delay it and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: delay it and starve you out. And so it every
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: case is different, Every case is different. But the true
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: where our big money is made is in the courtroom.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: If you can wait to get to that trial, you can.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: That's that's when you're going to be paid fairly and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: compensated fairly for what has been taken from you and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: your family.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Now, the name of your book is life is luck.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Nothing luck about what you've done. You you work pretty hard,
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: You've grinded, You've I don't know if there's much luck
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: with that you put into work.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: But you're also born white in America.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: To listen, first of all, first chapter, the odds of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: being born is like trillions to one, just being born.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Before we talk about being born white, let's talk about
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: just being born in America. You know what if I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: was born in North Korea, how am I doing? How
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: does white North Korea luck to you? Okay, So there's that,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and then there's white, and then there's.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Sorry miss male, you know.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Then there's male, and then there's good looking. Good looking
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: people do better, you know, and then there's all the
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: other stuff. Look height, most presidents are tall. So well,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not screwed.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like you said, you wasn't that tall.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: No, I'm listening. I'm built, but I'm out. You know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama, you know, you look up, Bill Clinton, you
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: look up. They look down at me. So all those
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: different things that happen. Successful people hate to be told
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they were lucky. And the reason they hate to be
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: told they're lucky is they worked their e fing ass.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But guess what else, Guess who makes the least amount
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: of money in America The people who work the effing hardest.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to dig a hole with a shovel?
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Actually I have.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: I'm from Mont Corner, South Carolina, so I was getting
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: a lot of trouble with my daddy told me to
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: dig a hole because it's either going to be the.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Well of your grave.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, digging a hole and try to dig a cold hole,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Try to dig it with some frost on the grass.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: When the people who work the hardest in America are
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the people who make the least. When you ever see
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a guy there swinging on a building with a wigs,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know, squeegee, what what would it call? What would what?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Would you have to be paid to get up there
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: and strapped on with suction cups? You know, swinging in
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the wind. But that's poor person's here, you know from
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Outamala is sending money back to his family to take
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: care of his family and living you know, like a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: dog here because he's doing the right thing. So luck
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: does have a lot to do with it. If I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: looked at your career like I've looked at mine, and
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that's what I did here when I went on, when
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I got on that billionaire list, I say, how did
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: this happen? Well, first of all, the reason I talked
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: about the paper boy. I don't know if any of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: y'all are old enough to be paper boys, but paper
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: route is a hard deal, and I think that I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was born with an entrepreneurial seed. There's a paper rout
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: for a ten eleven year old boy. You're up every
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: day snow sleets, So I think I had that entrepreneurial
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: seed early, which was a lucky deal for me. But
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: if you look at your career, and I'm not sure
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: about it, really I was researching it. I'll bet you
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: there was a moment that something, there was some break,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: there was something new, something that you yeah, tell me
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: what it was. Man.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: It's been a few of them, but I think probably
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: the biggest one was when I when do you ever
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: heard of Wendy Williams.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, listen. I don't know why. Last night we
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: were a mister chow. My daughter maybe maybe she knew
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: about this because my daughter goes, I'm a Wendy Williams fanatic.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, my daughter, Kate, She's like, I love, I'm
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: like Wendy william.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: He used to sit on her lap.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: So yes, that's how she So two thousand and six,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I was in South Carolina and she basically was hearing
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: what I was doing in South Carolina. Just to make
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: a long story, very very very very short, without any
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: new ones her what I was doing in South Carolina,
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: met her and her then husband, and they brought.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Me up to New York to be a co host.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: So that's God, that's luck, Like that's just.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's like, and I tell you listen, luck. Luck can
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: have other words blessings, yeah, God, God. But but when
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: we become so arrogant that we think it's all us
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and not chance. I was telling one of your producers.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I said, when I first applied for a job at
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: these one hundred applications, my dad calls me and says,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: one of the applications slid down behind the back of
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: my car seat. He said, I said, how did you?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I pulled the seat down. I was vacuuming. My dad
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: vacuum in the back of the car. Was like, that
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: ain't ever happening, but he did. I said, who was
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: who was the letter to? He goes a guy named
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Jared Billings. He goes, should I send it out? I go, yeah,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was what do I have to lose? We go already
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: paid for the stamp. Guess where I got the job? Wow,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Jared Billings, Jerry Billings. And there's some I decided to
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: go to. I decided I'm Catholic. I decided to go
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: to daily Mass one day. I'm not a daily mask guy.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I just went to clear my head, not really to pray.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Twenty minutes I go in there, I'm in the community line.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I look ahead of me. I see this girl, these
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: little terry claws, shorts a little, you know, I'm like,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: damn good in church, lusting, lusting. She turns around. I'm like,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that's good too. I go out, I get her number,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I take her out on a date. I marry her.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: If I don't go to church that day, I don't
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: have him sitting over there. I don't have the other three.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have my three other some of my grandchildren
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: are back at the Lowe Hotel right now. I don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: have my four children. I don't have Everything has changed
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that one day, And so I think what we got
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: to do to make sure that we stay humble, because
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think staying humble makes us better. And I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: we stay humble and realize a lot of people work
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: a lot harder than us, and there's a lot of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: people a lot funnier than us, and there's a lot
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: of people a lot more talented than us. But that
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: one break, and if you do that, if you remain humble,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: then what you focus on in your life. And it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the last prayers of my before I go to sleep, gratitude. Man,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know how this happened. I have no fn idea,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: but but but yeah, thank you God because this did happen.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: And you know, when I look at it, because I
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: got all sorts of business. I'm in the attraction business, hotels,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: all these different things, because I'm kind of an entrepreneur.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: But I could never have seen it because when I
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: got married, when I left town, when I left Gainsville
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to get married, I was so broke that guy from
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Alabama wants to I said, how broke were you? Jerry said,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I was so broke I needed a co signer to
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: pay cash. That's broke. So but I was so broke
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: when I left college to get married. My wife had
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: to give me her mobile card to get gased and
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: come home and get married. So we started with ZIP
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and then here you are all these years later, and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: you're like, how did that happen?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: So y'all came up together basically all the way.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, only forty four years May twenty second.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Incredible, man.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and so that's how that's when I started
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: writing the book. And so I didn't want to write
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a book about my autobiography because it just wasn't that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: interesting enough. But what I wanted to do was tell
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: stories of my life and how other people can find luck,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: improve luck, get return on luck, turn failure into your friend.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, here's what life is.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Life is a gigantic casino. And when you go in
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: that casino, there's all sorts of games. There's some games
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: you should never play, like if there's keino, don't play
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: Keno because the odds of winning and Keno are niel
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: and none. It's the same in life. There's games to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: play and not to play. And then there's moves to make.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you gamble or not, but all right,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: so you go to play blackjack, what's the rule? Two aces?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: What's the rule? But those same types of rules are
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in life. But people make a mistake, you know in
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: business location location location and being adequately capitalized. But people
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: still make that mistake. If I drive down the road,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I see a restaurant going, I'm like, I ain't gonna
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: make it. Why it's an old taco tiko and now
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: they're trying to become a sub shop. And then this
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: building has failed over and over and over and over
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: again for a reason. But we make those So what
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I've tried to do with this book is to talk
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: about how we can improve our luck. The main way
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: we find luck and find success. In my thought about
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: all this is you have to constantly be looking for opportunity.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: When you stop looking for opportunity, you have no chance
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for luck, you have no chance for blessings, you have
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: no chance for God to enter your life and even
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: do what you're asking for. So there's a lot of
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: that in my there's a lot of that kind of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: stuff in this book.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: One of the stories in the book that I really
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: appreciated your brother Tim. He was paralyzed at Disney World,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: and that reshaped your whole life. How did you turn
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: something that traumatic into fuel to propel you instead of
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: letting it break you.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: When he got hurt, I told you before, we were
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: poor people. My mother had left us before that, so
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: my dad was kind of a drinker. So it was
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: just like five of us and there's my brother and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you're living in this little bullshit house and now he's paralyzed,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: and you know, and then Disney started playing hardball with him. Well,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I'm I love my family like I would take a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: bullet for my family. That's the kind of love I have.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: And then You're watching him. He's on a gurney spinning,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you can't move nothing, and Disney's messing with him. And
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I just became enraged, enraged, And at the end of
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the day, you know, it was what it was. And
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, believe it or not.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Because he was a quadriplegic, he became what's called a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: super quad where he could drive a car. He had
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: a daughter, and he worked in my law firm with
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: me till he died two years ago yesterday. And I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: have probably cried a thousand times about Tim, I mean
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: even now. But I took that experience and I said,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you know what, I know what I'm going to do
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: with my life. Tim's terrible luck turned out to be
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: my career. And so when I walk into one of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: my offices, when I see people sitting there, I'm thinking
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to Tim, I want to be treat them the way
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I watched Tim was treated. We ended up hiring a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: law firm we never should have hired. We never should
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: have hired. They made all sorts of mistakes. When I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: look back on it now, I mean, it's just malpractice.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: This case got dismissed in circuit court and never was appealed.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: We didn't know what an appeal was, and so that
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: terrible day turned out to be my entire career.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: And do it get your I don't want to say revenge,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: but did you ever get your get back from Disney?
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah? But to her point, I don't do it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I don't have the time or the money for revenge.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I had the time and money for justice. And I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: believe in justice. But I also believe when people, when
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: people lawyers, especially when they come to work, ask me
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: for a I asked them two questions. I ask them
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: one question and if there's no right answer, and be
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: interesting to see what you guys answer this. To this,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I say, what do you value more? Mercy or justice?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: Justice? Mercy and justice justice?
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: I think, what do you define a mercy?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Ask?
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Whatever you are?
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I.
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Can answer that. I would depend on a situation for me,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: in how close whoever the situation happened to is to
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: me like.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Mercy and justice can be intertwined.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: They but they aren't though, but they can. That's the point.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'm more of a mercy guy, but I'm also a
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: justice guy. To your point, they are intertwined, and I
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: believe that what I get to do is I don't
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: want to say it's like a ministry, but it's like
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: a ministry because when I'm with people, I'm representing a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: guy right now who his son was stabbed. He came
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: out of this. It was down in his apartment in
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Brickell and Miami. He came out and the guy had
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: broken into this very secure apartment and stabbed his son
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: ninety one time. And he walked out with it ongoing. Well,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: this guy has had you know, it's the most it's
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: the most outrageous of all time. But I've spent an
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: enordan amount of time talking to this guy, not about
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the case, just about you know, bringing him off the ledge.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: You have the opportunity to seek justice, but at the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: same time deal out mercy. The two to your point,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the two do intertwine. And it's a great thing that
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: when you get up to go to work, you get
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to do something good, you know. Johnny back to Johnny Cochran,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: he used to say all the time, you can do
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: good and do well. That was his life us.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: What did you learn with could you talk? You keep
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: talking about working with Johnny Cochran? What did you learn
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: about how you watched him navigate luck but also not
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: luck in certain situations because he was a black man
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: building when he was building. That helps you today when
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: you're dealing with people that are in different situations than
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: you were in Well.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I learned so much from him. The very first time
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I met him, I come up here to meet him
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: in his office. I walk in to his office and
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: sitting in the lobby was j LO and Sean Combs.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm like, oh wow.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: Was it during the club case?
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Of course?
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah? And then me and him flew to Rochester sign
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: up a case private little The planes got better as
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: time went on. Some of those plans you wouldn't get
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: on today. You're like, I was flying those things, but
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: we flew to Rochester. The thing I loved about him
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: was he spoke truth to how hour every single day,
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: and he was not embarrassed about it. You know, like
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: you said, you know ambulance chaser that they try to
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: embarrass me by saying amlence chase. That does not You
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: cannot embarrass me because I'm not an ambulence chaser. If
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I was an amblis chaser, I'll tell you this, with
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the technology, I'd be there way before the ambulance, you know.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: But what he taught me was, we have nothing to
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: be embarrassed about about what we're doing because what happened
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: to them was wrong. And most people don't have the
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: money to pay a lawyer by the hour. If you
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: were gone, if you're paid a lawyer by the hour,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: it's shocking. You get the first BILLI a wait a minute,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. You know, billable time is like organized crime.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: That first bill you get, You're like, that's more than
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for. And so we are the keys to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: the courthouse. We get to level the playing field against products,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: unsafe products, insurance companies. And so at the end of
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: the night I was told about I remember, around nine
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: to eleven, I said to my wife, I said, you know,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I don't even feel like going to work because this
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: is so horrible. She goes, John, at least what you
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: do matters. Some people go to work and it doesn't
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: really matter. And so I really feel that way, and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I feel that I feel that what happened to Tim,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: which gave me this business and gave me this life,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: as terrible as it was, gave me purpose. And so
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, I'm very happy that
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: this is the path that I ended up taking.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: How do you feel when you get fooed by like
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: rival lawyers? Like I was reading about how you got
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: tooed once because they alled that your commercials use misleading,
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: druma dramatizations and violated professional conduct rules. The case was dropped,
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: then there was another lawsuit filed, I think, like in
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen or something.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: So how do you feeling?
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Like other lawyers who listen, I've had I've had clients
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: in my firm where my lawyers blew a statue of limitation.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: When that's happened, I personally meet with the clients and
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: here's what I tell the client. We effed up. When
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I say we, I mean he, not me. He And
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I said, but here's the bad news, and here's the
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: good news. The bad news is we fed up. But
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: here's the good news. I got insurance. You need to
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: go hire somebody to sue me. And here's the better news.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure you get at least as much
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: as the case is worth, and I hope a lot
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: more because it's my carrier. And I made this mistake.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: And I've had that conversation probably four or five times.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: It's a very difficult conversation. But can I tell you
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: that the interesting thing about that all those people that
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that happened to, and I one lady because I started
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: this bank down in Orlando years ago and she worked
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: at the bank that I started, and say, John, I
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: don't want to see you. I don't want I said,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: you have to the five people I've had that conversation
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: with over the years, those people have referred me more
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: business after my lawyers dropped the ball on their case.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: And you know what I think, because I still think
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the truth trumps everything and that when you're a straight
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: shooter and you tell the truth, is it fun to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: be sued? No, it's embarrassing. But I believe that the
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: best way you fight embarrassment is just be honest. Just
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: be honest. Now, some of these cases, none of the
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: lawyers in America like it when I come of their city,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: because some people say they like competition. I guarantee you this.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of DJs, maybe every DJ, maybe every
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: guy that does what you do in America, that would
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: rather be you than them. Who would you rather be
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: than you?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Nobody?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Thank you? So all of them would rather be you?
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: That I mean, and that's true. So you got that
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: jealousy out there that they say, we like to be
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: competitive until real competition comes in. So there's when I
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: go into these states and cities, some of these lawsuits
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: are filed and they get stomped out. But to me,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just you know, par for the course.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I got shiploads of insurance and to the part I
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: don't have insurance. I got money to solve that problem.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: A guy told me once, this is a good one
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: for you to remember. If money will solve a problem,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: solve the problem.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: M hm.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: How did you feel about the actual allegations, the way
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: they said that you used misleading dramatizations.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: It's I didn't. I didn't. The advertising rules in all
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: sorts of different states are different. You know, I did
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a I did some you know, I did uh some
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: ads with Kyle Busch before he died, and in Florida,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I can't use celebrities and I'm getting ready
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to sue the Florida Bar over this. I can't use
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: celebrities in my ads, which I think is unconstitutional. Why
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: because the because the bar doesn't want they don't like
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: effective commercials that can maybe dry business. Yeah. Why Why
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: because because lawyers are making that decision. My competitors are
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: on the rules committee that are making those decisions. So
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: some of these things that you've seen, I don't know
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: exactly which dramatization we're talking about, but it could be
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: something like that, or it could be I run a nationally.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I got an ad I'm doing now with John Daly
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: and his son, and it runs nationally and maybe it
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: hits locally in somebody. But they're always shooting at you.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: If you're at the top, you're going to be shot at.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: There's just no getting around it. And it's usually comes
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: from envy or jealousy, which are very destructive vices. The
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: way you do better is be better. Don't worry about him,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I tell people all the time, comparison is
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the thief of joy. When you're looking over here, and
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: you're looking over here, you gotta look straight ahead. And
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: you know, when you go to the races, sometimes you see
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: horses with blinders on, you know why, so they're not
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: looking left and they're not looking right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: When you talk about being honest, what do you say?
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: What did you say to your three attorneys? That were
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: fined for what they called hallucinated AI citations.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Well, one of them was my son.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, can't fire him.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: No, I'll fire that one over there. I did. It's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: not not that. So I did fire him once. I
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: did fire him once. I fired Dan. Once. I had
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: this attraction called WonderWorks. The house is turned upside down.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You ever seen them, It's called WonderWorks, The house is
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: turned upside down. I got six of them in America.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Dan was working at WonderWorks and was fing off all
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: the time. So I fired Dan. I said, Dan, uh,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you need to go get a job, and it ain't
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: with me. And he's like, and I said, I don't.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to go out of the house
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: except to go to school and look for a job.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: He gets a job at Boston Market cooking hams. He's
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: there for a week and he comes in. I can't
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: do anymore. They got me in the they got me
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: in the washing dishes. I said, think about that, Dan,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you're so talented that you they you can't even cook
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: the damn hams. So he at Boston Market. He comes home.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't take I'm vomited in the dish
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: washing room. I said, well, listen, you're not leaving the
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: house except to go to school and look for a job.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: He gets a job at Firehouse Subs and he becomes
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: one of the great sub makers of all time and
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: learned his lesson. So on the hallucinating. What happened is
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: my son, we had a products liability case in Wyoming
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: against Walmart and one of our lawyers used AI to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: get sites. And I didn't know what hallucination was other
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: than you know, smoking marijuana with my medical marijuana. I
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: didn't know. And all of a sudden we did it,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and my son might as well. I said, well, Mike,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: how did it happen? Well, so and so the lawyer
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: did it, And I said, but your name's on the pleating.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And it was terribly embarrassing because it was every you
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: know again, and people want that the people if you're here,
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: like if you got busted, there'd be a lot of
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: people happy. Your competitor to be very happ Oh, look
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: he never was what he said he was. But I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: told Mike, I said, look, this comes to the territory.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: He says, what I got to do? I said, I'll
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: tell you. You got to do. He goes, why I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: didn't do it? I said, your name's on the pleading.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Here's what you're going to do. You're going to fly
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: your ass to Wyoming from Florida. You're going to stand
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: in front of that judge and you're going to say
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: we made a mistake and we are sorry, and we
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: are going to try never to do this again. And
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: guess what when you do that? And he went out there.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: You know what the judge said. He said, said, okay,
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the sanctions they were looking at, we'd already paid Walmart.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: And we said okay, and the judge it wasn't as
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: bad as it could have been. Now, if you start,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: it's never the act. It's the lies. If you fess up,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that's one thing. If you cover up, it's always the
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: cover up. It's always the cover up. It's always the lie.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: And yeah, it was a bad case. It was a
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: bad thing, a bad press. And guess what the judge was. Okay,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: we went and tried the case and we hit Walmart
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: for nine million dollars.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: And I read that y'all covered the opposing council's fees.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, wow, we had to. I mean, I mean,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: that's what they had to spend it. It's like one
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: hundred grand Walmart. Not that they needed the money, but
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: they deserved it because it was it was our bad.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: And if you make a mistake, I tell this to everybody.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: If you make a mistake, the sooner you admit it,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: the better off you're going to be. Because you start
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: going down that wormhole of lying and jigging and jagging
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: and doing all that, you're in for a it's going
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: to end poorly.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: Something about you seems very fair, you know what I mean. Like,
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: there's a couple of things that I love that you.
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: You know, you shit on the myth of being self
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: made right, and you say things like the money belongs
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: to God. Like you said, you talk about the responsibility
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: that comes with extreme wealth. So you've done things like
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: build food banks, and you fund homeless and hungarylief and
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: you give back because, like you said, you believe that
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: luck created the fortune and giving back is the duty
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: for those who have been lucky.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Ears, I'd like to say, blessed.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Well, here's how I look at it. I ask myself
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: all the time, you know, how do I believe in God?
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Question number one? Absolutely, But on a scale of one
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: to ten, Am I a ten? Or am I one?
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I would say I'm like a seven or a God's number,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: but I'd like to be ten. If you go to church,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: say who all believes in God? Everybody say yeah, yeah,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: But is it a seven, eight or ten? I'm probably
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a seven or eight. But I'm always praying for more faith.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: But what I believe more than anything, I don't really
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: see God up in the sky. I see God around
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: this table. And what I believe is the best way
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: for us to love God is to love people. Because
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: when you're loving people, you're loving God. And when I
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: build those food banks and the new thing I'm doing
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: for women and children the Coalition, and we just built
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: a food bank in West Virginia, and on and on
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: and on. To me, that is what is pleasing to God,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: because God lives in us. And the reason I know
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that is because that's what he said. And so, how
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: can you have this kind of money? How can you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: have this kind of money and drive by and see
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: people hungry? People hungry? How can you drive by and
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: see people making eight dollars an hour at the grocery
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: store and then getting in their car and driving to
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: the Morgan and Morgan Hunger Relief Center. It's not fair.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: It's not fair, and what's going on in America right
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: now is and why you're seeing all these progressives rise
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: up to your point. It's not fair what's happening, And
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: it's not because of anything other than the rich are
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: getting richer by design and the poor are getting poorer
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: by design, and the poor are saying, you know what,
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: it's not fair. It's not fair that these new tax
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: cuts can have a guy like you get a jet
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: for free. When I bought my jet after Trump got elected,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of course I didn't support him, you know, I'm the
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: first time I got in politics was Bill Clinton back.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was my guy. And then I was
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: financed for Obama. I had Obama in my house as president.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: So but it's not fair. But the Trump tax cuts,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: my new jet was basically free with the tax cuts.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: That's not fair. This carried interest that these hedge fund
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: guys get. That's not fair. And I believe that what's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: happening in America is this progressive ups is about fundamental fairness,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: not that it's not fair to them, but what's happening
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: to the rich is really unfair.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: And so you like the progressive movement.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Not really, Okay, not really, because I believe this socialism
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: always turns into something like Venezuela or Cuba. I believe
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: that what we have a duty to do is to
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: do the most for the most with the.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Least, So like compassionate capitalism.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, like let's start with fair pay.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Let's start with fair pay, start with things like you know,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: medical for everybody. I mean, why should somebody? Uh, I've
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: got I've got a clinic that I fund in a
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: poor section of Polk County in Florida that were filled
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: every single day with people coming to the Morgan Morgan
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Clinic for medical care. That's that's their whole deal. There's
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of those people out there, and we could
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: do over and over again. So but I believe that
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I believe what's going to happen in America is I
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: believe the progressive movement is going to get bigger and
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. Here's how I look at it. I'm
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: threatening to write a book I call it The Castle
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: and the Moat. There's this huge castle where the top
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: point one percent live, and then there's this moat and
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: it's deep and it's wide, and there's piranhas in there,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: and there's sharks, and there's electrical eels, and then on
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: the outside there is the barbarians that want to come
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: in and take the caressle. Over time, the point one
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: percenters in the castle start drawing all the water out
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: for themselves. They're building spas, they're building pools inside, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: the moat keeps sinking and sinking and sinking. The moat
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: is the middle class. The moat is the middle class.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: And at some point the moat gets dry, and the
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: eels and the piranhas and the sharks they all die.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: And then you know what happens. Then they walk across.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: They don't have to swim across. They walk across. And
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: like on January sixth, the guards in the castle, they
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: let them in. If you look at January sixth, the
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: guards let them in. And in every great society, when
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: you beat people down to a point of hopelessness, helplessness, powerlessness,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you have Marie Antoinette, let them eat, let them be cake.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, how about we eat you? How
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: about the czars in Russia. It's just because we're in
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: the twenty first century, does it mean those lessons don't
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: mean the same today. And I believe that this country
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: is on that path because the rich, the rich wants
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: so much, so much, and they want to keep and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: listen the progressives. Do you know why you know why
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are siding with Palestine, It's because
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: they feel oppressed. Think of that feeling that you wake
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: up every day and you're like, no matter what I do,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: it ain't gonna be worth anything. And at a certain
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: point you rise up and you say, look, And there's
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: two types of envy. There's benign envy where you go, hey,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I want to be him, so I'm gonna go work
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: my ass I will be him. Then there's malicious envy
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: where you go, I just want to take it from
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: them because it's not fair. And the socialist movement can
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: grab a holt of that sentiment and write it all
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: the way. What I worry about is what happens after
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Castro becomes in charge, what happens when Chavez? Because I've
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: never really seen it work anywhere else where it works well?
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  Speaker 5: Is that why you got your party that you're trying
• 58:23
  Speaker 5: to put together? The common ground part? So you're about
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: to politics is where you're about to go next, and
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: it sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Like common Ground. I had a contest to have I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: think we need a third party because you can't compromise.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: I had a friend in Florida he did a constitution
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: movement to restore Felon's rights. Listen, man, if you do
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: your time, you should be able to vote in this country.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: And guess what, my friend he did it in Florida.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: And guess what, they passed that constitutional. Because most people
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: agree on most things when you take the D in
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: the R down. So what I believe is all this
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Jerry Mandarin. I mean, look, you got you know, look
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: at South Carolina where you're from. I mean it's it's
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: just locked and loaded, red red, red, red red. But
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: there's no compromise. So what I'm thinking about this party
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: common Ground is a party in the middle. Yeah. We
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: like some of this stuff on the left. Yeah, we
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: like some of this stuff on the right. Let us
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: be the tiebreaker. Let us be because.
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  Speaker 2: Look, here's there's no true moderates. Yeah. Bill Clinton was
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: a true mons.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, and listen, believe it or not, so was Barack Obama. Listen,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you know you you take his eight years. I mean
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: that's some of the greatest eight years in the history
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: of this capitalistic country. Obama's a capitalist. Believe me. I
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: mean it's a Netflix guy. Obama's Netflix. He's okay, He's
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: okay with capitalism, and believe me, you know. And so
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: so my idea is this, in most elections, four or
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: five percent of the vote is what de hermines elections.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: That's when Mitt Romney said forty seven percent. Remember that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: forty seven forty seven percent, that's six percent he's talking about.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about common ground. We could do a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: lot if we were just in the middle to break
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: the tie here, break the tie here and find common ground.
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  Speaker 2: And also, I feel like you should call it common
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  Speaker 2: sense ground.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, you know what, it's funny you say that because
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: I put in I become a chat GPT addict speaking hallucinations.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: Already bring that back up. But when I put in
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: common sense, there was a lot of negative stuff about
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: common sense. It was interesting to do that. When you
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: get time tonight, just put in which name is better,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: common sense or common ground? And they kept give me
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: all the reasons. So I just want to come but
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: common sense.
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  Speaker 4: Because when you say fair paid, when you say free
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: medical care, and you want criminal justice reform. You want
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: you clearly want work in label rights, right, things like, oh,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: that's just that's why wouldn't we want that.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, when we try cases, you know the words we
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: use most use your common sense. When you go back
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: to this, you know, use your common sense. And that's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: part of the jury instructions is common sense. So to
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: your point, but when it got down to nut cutting time,
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  Speaker 1: common ground, common sense. My slogan is for the people,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: and so a lot of people say, what about the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: People's Party? But then my lawyer who drafted all the
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: documents said that that China's got the People's Party and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: it could be construed to be you know, you know China,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: So we didn't go that way.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Well, life is luck is out right now, and we
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  Speaker 3: appreciate you for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I enjoyed this conversation a lot, man, I would should
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: you can come back up here anytime.
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  Speaker 1: So that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoyed this conversation of life.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, John Morgan. It's the breakfast Love,
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  Speaker 3: good morning, hold.
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  Speaker 4: Up every day I wake up, click your glass up
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  Speaker 4: the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Finish for y'all. Dump h