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6-29-26 Hour 1 - Nuggets and Celtics trade?/Busy weekend for the Avs/What's Tim Connelly's game plan? · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: Told you guys before, my wife watches terrible television shows,
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  Speaker 2: Real Housewives all that. It's always people yelling at each other,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, I don't get why you find
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  Speaker 2: this entertaining. And then every off season, number minded, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my version of that is the NBA off season, because
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  Speaker 2: that's all it is. It's yelling, it's screaming, it's rumors,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's unconfirmed reports, it's all of that stuff. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think Nuggets fans are gonna survive this offseason.
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  Speaker 3: They should. I don't better they should.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they're gonna.
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  Speaker 2: You see the report of like Jokic might not sign
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  Speaker 2: his extension, he might be holding the team hostage, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think that's what's happening at all.
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  Speaker 2: I really, I guess I don't know. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's happening at all. I think what he's thinking is
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  Speaker 2: I can get more money if I wait, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna sign it like today, and we just need
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  Speaker 2: to have a modicum of patients. I don't know, but
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  Speaker 2: it's going to kill some Nuggets fans cause there are
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  Speaker 2: some big things that are I guess on the table.
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  Speaker 2: Like we talked about, you know, during the draft, is
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  Speaker 2: there's something big in the works with the Nuggets trade Jamal.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I don't think Jamal's gonna get traded
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  Speaker 2: out of the blue. It's not gonna be a Sham's tweet.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna see like a steady drip of rumors. First, well,
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  Speaker 2: the rumors are kind of common now of potentially that happening.
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  Speaker 5: I can't confirm that the Nuggets have assembled the staff
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  Speaker 5: to talk to Boston about Jaylen Brown. Now what that
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  Speaker 5: means I know, because I guarantee there are you know what,
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  Speaker 5: twenty eight other teams in the league that have probably
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  Speaker 5: done the same thing, assembled the staff to see what
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  Speaker 5: they've got for Jalen Brown. They may not have enough,
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  Speaker 5: they may not have what they like, but they're talking
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  Speaker 5: about it. Jalen Brown's being talked about. It's certainly a
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  Speaker 5: subject matter. We'll see where it goes. But today Day one,
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  Speaker 5: they did extend qualifying offers to Spencer Jones and Peyton Watson.
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  Speaker 5: So right now they're right up against that apron. Right now,
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  Speaker 5: they can always go back, right if they trade somebody,
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  Speaker 5: they can always go back with. But right now they
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  Speaker 5: are right there in Repeter Taxville.
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  Speaker 3: Tough place to be.
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  Speaker 5: But Nikola Jokic, for the record, I am also in
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  Speaker 5: repeater Taxville. I got a letter from the IRS last
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  Speaker 5: week on some taxes that I over. I guess I
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  Speaker 5: missed them. Ah so I too, I too have now
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  Speaker 5: have repeater tax.
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  Speaker 4: You know who you can call?
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  Speaker 3: I can't read.
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  Speaker 4: You should call j coyn No, no, no no.
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  Speaker 2: If homeboy can get you out of a time share, Vic,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he can have a couple of conversations about
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  Speaker 2: the IRS.
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  Speaker 4: You need to get out of the time share, you
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  Speaker 4: give me a call.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a lawyer.
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  Speaker 5: I just want to I want everybody to know it's
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  Speaker 5: just not basketball teams who are in the repeater tax.
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  Speaker 5: Human beings, just regular dudes can be in the repeater tax.
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  Speaker 5: Sure I am there.
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  Speaker 3: Stop swimming there.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let me finish my thought please, Oh yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: If you're worried about Nikola Jokic's not finishing his career,
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  Speaker 3: as with Denver, nugget. Stop it. He's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a Denver nugget for life. Okay, there's just no two
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  Speaker 3: ways about it. There's no use in fretting about it,
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  Speaker 3: thinking about it, anything of that nature. It's just a
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  Speaker 3: matter of when he signs the next extension, which could
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  Speaker 3: be his last, because he may ride off into the
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  Speaker 3: horse ride fighting sunset of Serbia at some point. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: stop worrying about it. Crazy weekend though, overall, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of big stuff over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: Well, here's the other thing. To Vick's point, he said,
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  Speaker 4: he I want to get this right.
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  Speaker 2: Fig you said, you can confirm that they're having discussions
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  Speaker 2: about Jalen Brown. Doesn't mean anything will happen, but they're
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  Speaker 2: having discussions. Well, yep, whatever you think of Bill Simmons.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Simmons is pretty plugged into the Boston sports scene.
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  Speaker 2: He's a big Boston sports fan.
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  Speaker 6: He said this Murray and Cam Johnson for Jalen and Howser,
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  Speaker 6: which would save Denver ten million dollars this year. The
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  Speaker 6: Celtics could take Cam Johnson in their trade exception. Murray
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  Speaker 6: is fifty million this year, fifty four and fifty seven,
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  Speaker 6: so he's about eight million behind Jalen in each of
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  Speaker 6: those years, but same amount of years, same amount of years.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm shaving off seven to eight million. I'm adding
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  Speaker 6: Cam Johnson, who I can either keep or spin in
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  Speaker 6: a trade, and I am getting somebody who I still
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  Speaker 6: think is one of the best twenty five players in
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  Speaker 6: the league back for Jalen.
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  Speaker 2: He said that from his people in Boston, they are
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  Speaker 2: having discussions about that now, Jalen Brown and Houser for
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  Speaker 2: Cam and Jamal, and honestly feels like a trade that
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  Speaker 2: makes sense, Like this isn't something that's.
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  Speaker 4: Like totally out there crazy whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like both teams if they wanted to shake
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  Speaker 2: up their roster while still keeping very good players on it.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like something that could work for both of them,
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  Speaker 2: which is what he went on to say.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm on Boston, I'm signing up for that trade.
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  Speaker 6: If I'm Denver, I'm at least having a six hour meeting.
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  Speaker 6: And it's a reconstruction of a of a team because
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna remove the Murrayokch pick and roll, but you
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  Speaker 6: could run a lot of that offense through Joker. You
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  Speaker 6: resigned Peyton Watson with the extra money you have him
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  Speaker 6: more involved offensively, and you could argue that that team's better,
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  Speaker 6: it's bigger, it's deeper. You have Joki, Jean, Gordon and
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  Speaker 6: Jalen as your front line. You're just you have more
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  Speaker 6: flexibility and you have somebody who can really step in
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  Speaker 6: if Gordon and gets hurt, which he gets hurt every year,
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  Speaker 6: and now you're not getting destroyed. If that happens and
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  Speaker 6: you're under the tax and you can get Watson, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean, you would still need a point guard. You still
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  Speaker 5: you still have a huge void. You have no guards
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  Speaker 5: to handle the rock ball handlers and it was the
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  Speaker 5: number one Remember what happened after the series. What has
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  Speaker 5: everybody said after the season they need more ball handlers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that would eliminate all of them. Well true, Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: you just sort of slough it off like no, that's
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  Speaker 5: that's that's a nope to me. That would that would
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  Speaker 5: make the deal impossible. You have no guards ball handling guards.
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  Speaker 5: You'd have to resign Tias Jones and then that's it. Ye,
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  Speaker 5: unless you go out and get vet minimum guys who
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  Speaker 5: can handle the ball.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know it. But here's the thing, Vic.
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  Speaker 2: If you're talking about a major shakeup.
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  Speaker 4: To the roster.
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  Speaker 2: If that's what you you feel like you have to do,
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  Speaker 2: this is something that would make sense if you're not
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  Speaker 2: looking to take a step back, if you're just like
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  Speaker 2: I want, I want a different feel while keeping the
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  Speaker 2: same expectations.
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  Speaker 3: The hell of a different feel, though, yes, very much.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's a that's a that's a pretty big
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  Speaker 3: different feel. And Vick is writ in this sense, who's
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  Speaker 3: going to bring the ball up the floor? Who's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be inserted into the lineup to bring the ball up
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  Speaker 3: the floor? Who is that? What does that look like?
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  Speaker 3: Who's that person? And I see Cam is out? Ok fine,
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  Speaker 3: I guess Peyton would slide into that spot. Okay, great,
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  Speaker 3: But now you're still worried about depth overall. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know that Sam Hauser if he I don't think he floats.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody's boat is a Howser's.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting because Houser is a little bit of like
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  Speaker 4: what Cam excuse me? What Cam is? I mean, he's
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  Speaker 4: a guy who's a little bit he's forty from three
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  Speaker 4: over his career, like he's but.
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  Speaker 3: He's not a volume shooter. He's not a volume minutede guy.
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  Speaker 4: Could be especially in a yokichav get some open looks.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know either, I don't I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, but that would certainly if you're looking to
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  Speaker 3: shake things up, that would certainly do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: that's it's just it's the.
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  Speaker 2: It's a matter of you know, I've talked about this
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  Speaker 2: before when it comes to George Peyton and his run
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  Speaker 2: as the Broncos GM, the biggest stain on his resume
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  Speaker 2: as far as player acquisition is the Russell Wilson trade.
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  Speaker 2: And I've said forever I can't hold that against him
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  Speaker 2: because I would have done the same thing. So what
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  Speaker 2: kind of of fraud and hypocrite would I be if
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  Speaker 2: I'm criticizing somebody for something I would have done myself.
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  Speaker 2: And in the sense of what the Nuggets front office
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  Speaker 2: has done and where they're at right now as a team.
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  Speaker 4: I remember last year, I remember after a week of
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  Speaker 4: in MPG trade signing Bruce Brown, Tim Hardaway Junior and
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  Speaker 4: all the different stuff that they did during that offseason
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  Speaker 4: and Valanciunas that we were all saying best Nuggets Ross
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  Speaker 4: Drever on paper. And so it's not about criticizing moves
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  Speaker 4: that they've made. But when you do that and you
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  Speaker 4: fail in the way that the Nuggets did in the
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  Speaker 4: first round, do you kind of think to yourself, maybe
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  Speaker 4: we need a giant shake up. Maybe that's what's necessary.
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  Speaker 2: I thought we pushed all the right buttons last year
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  Speaker 2: and it ended in six playoff games.
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  Speaker 5: So now what I need an answer to this, and
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  Speaker 5: you guys are in charge of finding the answer. So
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  Speaker 5: they extend those qualifying offers today to Peyton Wattson and
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  Speaker 5: Spencer Jones and their loan numbers. Right, they're just loan
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  Speaker 5: numbers because they just basically tell the world they're interested.
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  Speaker 3: Just get them on the books. Get it on the books.
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  Speaker 5: Six point five million for Peyton Watson, he's going to
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  Speaker 5: make triple quadruple that, okay, Spencer Jones two points sixty
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  Speaker 5: five million. I don't know where he'll end up. But
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  Speaker 5: with those offers, they're now in the repeater tax. Right now,
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  Speaker 5: here's the question I have. Are you allowed to exit.
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  Speaker 4: The repeater tax before the season starts?
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  Speaker 5: Are you allowed?
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  Speaker 3: All? Right?
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  Speaker 5: Like, does that automatically make them a repeater team? Or
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  Speaker 5: once you're there, you're done. You can't go backwards.
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  Speaker 3: Wait, so you just you swim in a temporary repeater
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  Speaker 3: pond again and then does it trend?
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  Speaker 4: Get out and off?
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  Speaker 5: Exactly I need to know. Can you Can you put
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  Speaker 5: the jacket on and then it gets warm, you take
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  Speaker 5: the jacket off.
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  Speaker 3: I hate the NBA CBA, so.
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  Speaker 5: Do I because I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 3: Therefore I don't get the book. Get the book.
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  Speaker 5: He's getting the Jake Coin.
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  Speaker 3: There's no way that your question is in that book
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  Speaker 3: can get an NBA team get out of the.
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  Speaker 7: Repeater because if you stay, if you stay in that
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  Speaker 7: repeater text, according to Bobby Marx right now, the penalty
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  Speaker 7: just for those qualifying offers to those two, the penalty
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  Speaker 7: get this just just barely in it.
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  Speaker 5: He's fifty one million dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That's insane. Here you go, Vix, Vix, listen to me
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  Speaker 3: Tax mix a VIX. An NBA team cannot get out
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  Speaker 3: of the repeater text before the season starts because the
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  Speaker 3: repeater tax status is determined by whether a team paid
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  Speaker 3: the luxury tax in three of the previous four seasons.
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  Speaker 3: To stop being a repeater, a team has finished two
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  Speaker 3: consecutive seasons entirely below the luxury tax line.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, so they finished it. They already finished it because
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  Speaker 5: the league year. See that's when does the league year start?
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  Speaker 2: Then, I think the sixth of the seventh's once they
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  Speaker 2: can officially sign free agents day is okay, so they
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  Speaker 2: can get back under it if they extending an offer.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, isn't on the books. That's an offer,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Like that, this isn't This isn't accepted by any of
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  Speaker 2: the players yet, but it's.
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  Speaker 5: A qualifying offer, which means that money's already accounted.
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  Speaker 4: For, but it's but it's not paid yet.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know, dude, dude, I have.
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  Speaker 2: R is for repeater tax extra luxury tax money you
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  Speaker 2: pay if you've been the tax paying team to often recently.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys know that's in my handy Danny book.
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  Speaker 5: That that that solves nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it made people aware. I did something. I mean something, I.
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  Speaker 5: Just oh god, all I'm saying is the nuggets as
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  Speaker 5: we were told, we were told this. Remember, they don't
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  Speaker 5: want to jump back into that repeater tax because h
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  Speaker 5: just to offer those guys and if you stay there, it's.
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  Speaker 3: A fifty one dollar penne It's absolute insanity. So that yeah, inside.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't talk about it, but it also you
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  Speaker 4: know what, I you know what.
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  Speaker 3: I am on this Monday morning. It's Monday. I'm sick
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  Speaker 3: of talking about this stupid CBA. But this is what.
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  Speaker 3: This is a kind of what and I know we
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  Speaker 3: have to but it's it's just such brain damage and
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  Speaker 3: it just annoys me to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's something else, you know, This entire NBA
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  Speaker 2: offseason is just every time you open up Twitter, it's
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  Speaker 2: something different. It's I just saw the Warriors are attempting
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  Speaker 2: to trade for Anthony Davis then sign Lebron James. The
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  Speaker 2: Warriors are because Lebron and the Lakers haven't had extension
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  Speaker 2: talks or something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like the Clippers are talking about trading Kawhi back
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  Speaker 3: to Toronto.
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  Speaker 2: Every six hours, there's some gigantic news involving big people
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  Speaker 2: in the league that.
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  Speaker 4: Just it doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 3: One thing. I do know, Jalen Brown is getting traded.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems clear.
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  Speaker 3: It seems to me. Despite what Brad Stevens said last
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  Speaker 3: week when he said, oh, he's valued value him, I
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  Speaker 3: love value. Despite that, this guy's name is all over
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  Speaker 3: the place and he's probably talked about it, so he
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  Speaker 3: probably wants out and is saying he's getting traded. It's
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  Speaker 3: just a matter of when, well at whom.
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  Speaker 4: A lot more to discuss with this.
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  Speaker 2: I do also want to talk about and get your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts moje on the AVS weekend, which was filled with
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  Speaker 2: acquiring draft capital and then.
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  Speaker 4: Using it and using a lot of it.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll get to that in just a few minutes
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  Speaker 2: as we broadcast from the Backus and Shanker Studios. Their
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  Speaker 2: passion is justice again, a lot of news coming in
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: We'll discuss all of it now.
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  Speaker 2: Regarding the Avs vow Nachushkin trade, where do they go
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  Speaker 2: from here next?
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  Speaker 3: Mush brut?
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  Speaker 4: What do I do with the AVS weekend trade?
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  Speaker 2: Val get assets, draft a whole bunch of dudes, make
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  Speaker 2: a couple of minor trades for a roster acquisition.
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  Speaker 4: What do I do with it?
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  Speaker 3: This is stuff. The team that's gonna go to the
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  Speaker 3: postseason next year is not the exact team you see
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  Speaker 3: right now. We need to know that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get my.
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  Speaker 3: Thoughts out on this because obviously, when all this goes down,
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  Speaker 3: we haven't been able to talk about it yet with
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  Speaker 3: each other. I'm gonna miss Val because I like Val
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: as a person who's a dude. I like him. What
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  Speaker 3: he does doesn't always show up on the score sheet.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: We've talked about that a lot, right, Yeah, it's for checking,
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  Speaker 3: back checking, you know, his penalty killing ability, this sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing. But if you're gonna make a move up there,
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  Speaker 3: this is a good one to make in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't when I look a couple three years ago,
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  Speaker 3: when I look at the season he had, he was
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  Speaker 3: basically a point per game guy in twenty three to
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  Speaker 3: twenty four, fifty three points in fifty four games, twenty
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  Speaker 3: eight goals. That's awesome, and you're saying, Okay, let's get
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  Speaker 3: some more of that. Well, the following season twenty four
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  Speaker 3: to twenty five, he plays in forty three games. Now
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  Speaker 3: he played in seventy two games this year. But the production,
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  Speaker 3: it just it's starting to dissipate. Yeah, so you might
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  Speaker 3: as well get it done while you can and go
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  Speaker 3: from there.
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  Speaker 2: It felt like some of the the Valve magic from
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  Speaker 2: the Cup run has kind of dissipated over there.
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  Speaker 4: And then of course he's need to say he's a
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  Speaker 4: bad player. He's still a good player. But just not
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  Speaker 4: that I don't know that sort of special thing that
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  Speaker 4: he had. I haven't there.
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  Speaker 3: The injury factor has been has been big for him.
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  Speaker 2: Too, injury factor disappearing for a couple of postseasons.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that that is correct, which is why when we
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  Speaker 3: talk about, Hey, look, I don't want to see Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Gordon traded, but I want him to be healthy, Like
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see Vwel traded, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: you need production out of that spot. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't think that at this point they're incredibly concerned about
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  Speaker 3: replacing Is seventeen and thirty two for forty nine and
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  Speaker 3: seventy two games. They're gonna They're gonna figure out a
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  Speaker 3: way to do that. They get enough points from people.
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  Speaker 3: So what's it going to look like going forward? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you've got your center positions all locked up, right, Catterory's
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  Speaker 3: gonna go up to a wing, Lany can switch over
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  Speaker 3: to the other side. I mean, that's ideally that's what
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  Speaker 3: it looks like right now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Now on top of that, you want to talk about
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: the guys they got from Nashville.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Sure, right now they're fourth liners, and that's it.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Fourth liners with potential to be more than that, or
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: probably more likely that they won't.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Be on that we well, I mean think about it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, these are both former first round picks, but
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: they're not They're not ever going to be, in my opinion,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: ever going to be high volume scoring kind of guys.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hey man, I they's nothing wrong with that. Sometimes
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: fourth liners win, you playoff games.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, one hundred percent they do.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: Vico no problem with what line you put him on.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: You got to have all lines rolling.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: And we had the promo that ran right before we
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: went to commercial brow or as we went to commercial
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: break with Raj talking about LaRue and he is a
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: tough customer, not a super big guy, but he's a
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: thick guy. He's a five eleven two bills kind of guy, right,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And yeah, he's a mean guy and he plays the
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: game that way. When you look at at Svetchkoff, he's
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: again I think when you take him nineteenth or overall,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: you're hoping that more production is gonna come with it.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: And he's got what twelve career National Hockey League goals?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Are they taking to a certain extent a Val gamble
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: on this because Val was one of those guys that
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: had high think.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: They might be, but they're but they're putting themselves in
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: a position again. They still have money right now, they
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: still have money. Yeah, okay, but they're also putting themselves
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: in the position to do things down the road, not
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: only with these assets, but other assets and picks and
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: so on and so forth, to to mitigate the circumplisces.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I love I love Jack Drury five years, four and
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: a half million pers not a fourth liner.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: People are asking me, why is Jack Drury not going
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: to be here while you're Why why do you get
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: traded five years for? But I couldn't say. I couldn't say.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: The guys he wants and is going to get more
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: money than I would pay him.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, are you?
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Are you paying a fourth line or four and a
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: half per No, vic taxman, because you're the I'm in
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: the repeater tax. So right now I'm I'm not gonna
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: let you borrow any money. Beauty's in the eye of
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the beholder. And I like Jack Drewy too, but you
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: know that's he's Chris McFarland's guy. Now, Yeah, fine with me.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I mean I say that I like him, don't get
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: me wrong, but I don't like him at that ticket.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I just don't. And if somebody likes him at that ticket,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: good for him. I don't so Well. One thing I
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: want to say to Natushkin better not end up back
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: in the Central Division. I'm sick of all these guys
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: they have sending them east and they end up back west.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I'm sick of that crap. You better not. He better
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: not come back to the Central.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Well, who's done that before? What are you talking about?
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: O'Reilly? Du Shane Ranton in want to you may keep
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: going on.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I didn't know if you were going to say his
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: name or hour.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Look, I'm over that, are you sure?
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: That high that's what I meant.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: That high pitched voice told me a lot he can me.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no so so. But the team you see right
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: now is not that I mean, won't it be the
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: team that they take into the season. We'll find out here, man.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Free agency is about to get going. We'll see what
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: they got up their sleeves. There's more deals to be had.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I'm sure if.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Well the teams want to do it. It felt like.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Look, one thing I do like, and I'll present this
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: to you. I love signing Kulik back.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I think that he was.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: You know, we haven't talked about the re signings. Kulak
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: coming back I think is huge. They obviously put way
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: more of an emphasis on their decor bringing him back
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: along with Brent Burns.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Now I have a question about Burns.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I like him just fine, and he's gonna turn forty
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: two towards the end of next season.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I thought he was solid.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: And if there's one thing the Abs have always had
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: during this this Cup run team, They've always had somebody
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: who's about forty years old on their blue line somewhere,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: whether it's EJ, whether it's Jack Johnson, whether now it's
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Brent Burns. It feels like they just want some veteran
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: they can trust for a few minutes that they don't
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: have to worry about. But can I say this, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: think that Burns is gonna be fine. In the case
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that he's not, Let's say that father time just hits
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: him really hard this offseason for whatever reason. Okay, which
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: is possible, he's going to be forty two. How do
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: you balance maybe he's not the player that I thought
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: he was going to be for us with I don't
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: want to be the guy responsible for giving him a
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: healthy scratch when he's got a consecutive game streak going.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I think I think it matters too to me the
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: legitimate question, Yes, okay, the burns consecutive games, it matters
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: to me. Okay, So where's the end now he's it's
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: over a thousand. Yeah, so no, kessel as at one
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: thousand and sixty four. He's at what one thousand and seven,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: So he's got fifty seven games to get there.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: I have no problem playing him till he gets there
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and then spotting him.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: For a while, gotcha.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: So so like, get him to one thousand and sixty
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: five and I think, yeah, I think that's what I
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: would do, and then I would get him as fresh
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: as possible for the postseason.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And this is if he's not playing up to a standard,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: saying in the possibility that father time hits him harder
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: than we think.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Correct, you know what I mean. But I think it's
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: important for him to get there. And only let me
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: go back a little bit here too. Somebody asked me
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: on the old Twitter machine, why but why, Vick, do
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: you like the fact that Joe Sakic's been immediately.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Active reason anytime at all?
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: He hasn't, has he? No? When you hurt him the
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: other day, and you've hurt him now twice this postseason.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Talk about this team? How does he how does he
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: make you feel like he's in control, that he knows
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: what he's doing, Like he's got his blank together right, Yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: like and and he almost seems to be. I haven't
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: talked to him, but he almost seems to be reinvigorated
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: by getting his feet back in the mix, right, by
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: getting his hands back in the in the dough.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: All he's had to do is call his buddy Chris.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: That's right, pretty much.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you want to do a thing again?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, so great, that sounds great. But you see what
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm saying is that to me, it seems like he's
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: very much in control. He's got a great handle on
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: where his team is, what it is, what it needs.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: So I would say, put your faith in Joe Sakkik
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: and these decisions that are being made and everybody else
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: that helps, with Kevin and Coggs and everybody else that
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: is involved in the overall decision making process and advisory
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: type of situation. Put your faith in them a little bit.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: But they said, vic, wat, why are we doing this?
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: I said, because it's what I've reiterated since they got
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: knocked out for crying out loud. This team is very
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: very close, and well well close, ain't gonna get it done? Well, yeah,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: it may get it done. It very well made. They're
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: very very close.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: The money that was shipped out with Natchushkin, where's that
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: money going?
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Part of it's gonna go to paying Kale. Okay, you're
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: thinking not only this year, but you're thinking down the
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: road in the immediate VI.
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: I'm talking about, is there another player in free agency
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: that they can target to fulfill a forward role?
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I support, yeah, but to me, it's probably gonna come
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: via a deal down the road someplace.
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: So you're not looking this. They're not gonna use that
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: money to apply to a certain guy. It's just there.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: That's correct and which is and to me that's also
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: that's totally fine.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: All right, So tell me walk me through.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, because you're not you're not gonna go
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I mean who you're gonna throw the money at. Okay,
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Pat Jane clause ERU guys like this, walk me through.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Watch these mid thirties and forties guys. Because I don't
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: think you need to do anything. You don't need to
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: overpay against another team, right, You don't need to overpay
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: and battle another team at this moment for a team
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: that's gonna make a run. So you have plenty of
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: time to get a guy. Maybe not quote the guy
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: unless they're really really targeting somebody. I mean, I don't know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Some of these guys are gonna get overpaid because the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Cup is going or the Cup the cap is going up,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: like people like, hey, should we get in on Tarasenko? No.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Forty seven points in seventy five games for Minnesota doesn't
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: float my boat. I mean, I'm you know, if it
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: comes at the right price, sure, but I'd rather get
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: the right guy than jump in it at a guy.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: You look at me, just looking in my eyes. Why
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: did they Why are they out on thal.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: We just talked about it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but why are they out on thou?
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I think because you're gonna you're you sold when the
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: price was probably going to be its highest. You're saving
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: all kinds of money. He you know, he does a
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: lot of things that don't show up on the score sheet.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: But the injury factor the last couple three years and
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: the production has just gone down. I guess.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the reason I'm bringing so settles. Hi.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Look, look, why why did you sell your Mustang now?
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Because the value will never be greater than it is
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: The reason I'm asking there was a time when he
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: was untradeable felt that way. There was a time when
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: you could not move him.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: But close to it, that magic that he had, he
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: was still a good player. It just didn't feel like
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: it was the same. And to Moser's point, he's got
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: a contract that you knew that by the end of
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it it was gonna dang yell little.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's when guys get north of thirty and
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: the production starts to dwindle. I did play seventy two
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: games this year, but the production just wasn't there.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: But if you're paying for the now and you're like
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: the now.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: Is just okay, right, I think it's time let me
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: ask you another question. And this is always one of
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: those hindsight questions that teams hate because we don't live
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: in the past. We do that, we do history and
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: we live with it. We don't live there, though we
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: live with it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 7: These are the hypotheticals, right, I love them.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: If they had a dude all over after winning the
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Stanley Cup, do you think, knowing what they know now,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: they would have kept Val over Nas or the other
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: way around.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Well, no, no, with hindsight, I mean, the guy left
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: two straight postseasons, just disappeared.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: There's no way you did.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: But you also would have paid Cadre at the time
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: a lot, you know, more than a lot more than.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Valve to be to be fair, But you had both
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: true here like it did have both U.
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, look, a.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Guy disappearing for reasons unknown is not I think you
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: would say, yeah, probably not the right choice had I.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Known that Nasen and Val are completely different players. Os is,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: he's gonna give you more production, but he's not going
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: to He's not physically able to do the other things
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: that Val does because of VAL's size and his wingspan
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: and so on. Right, So I mean it's yeah, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: guess Vick perhaps six to one way half dozen the other.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: Perhaps you would. But look, man, they had a team
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: the last two years that could win at all. Okay,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: just didn't it didn't. You wouldn't be asking these questions
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: if they had gotten another piece.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: Can I ask you guys a question here quickly towards
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: the end of the segment.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Sure, So I was watching yesterday the finish of the
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Travelers and I saw, you know, Scotty Scheffler pars eighteen
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: to force a playoff with Hovelin this morning. So they sleep,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: they get up, go to the range, hit the I
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: don't know which tea that they were on today, but
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: they played one hole Beature. Hovelind birdied. Scotty didn't. Hoveland wins.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Did we have to go through an entire night's sleep
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: to get.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I mean it was getting dark.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just you know what, when it comes
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to a playoff, you're going to force me to sleep,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: give me at least three holes.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Do something like that five minutes worth the next day.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: I don't like it. That's all I'm saying. Give me
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: like three holes, so.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: You want to force me to sleep and and make
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: me go to the range in the morning.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: I was more than four shots.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I'm looking at that final plut right now. Victor Hovlin.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of people that showed up on
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: a Monday morning to watch him take one putt.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Well, they had the Norwegian dudes all over for him yesterday.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they stuck around or not.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this one more time for people. Sorry, sorry,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: but I'm gonna go. But I'm gonna pull Viick Lombardie
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: and go back getting the least thing motion. But the
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Abs are worse today than they were last year? Can
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: you explain to me how the Abs feel short this?
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Do you think you're rid of a couple players expect
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to be would you?
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: It's not done.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I'm begging you to listen to me. I just I
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: damn qualified it when I started the segment by saying,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: the team you're looking at right now is not the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: team that you're gonna go too the postseason with I
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: promise you free agency.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Hasn't started yet.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: They don't even know what the team looks like. The
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: team you see now is not I don't know how
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: else to say it. Did I Did I not say
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: that the team you're looking at right now is not
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: the team that you're gonna take the game one of
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: the playoffs next year?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Or this this coming season?
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I think you just keep seeing moves being made both
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the NHL and the and you're seeing teams making seismic
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: changes like there's something I want to get to, by
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: This team, but the Colorado Avalanche you don't need seismic changes. No,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: they're incredibly close. Now you want to talk about getting
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: worse and not having the ability to do anything about it.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Dora Fiev leaving. Yeah, Vegas is big for them. He
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: was monster productive and he's gonna get a ten million
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: dollars a year pay raise.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Probably or whatever it is. Yeah, they couldn't do it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that happen over the weekend
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: that just don't make sense to me, don't make sense.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: So I was I was in San Diego this weekend.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: It second time being there, and every time I looked.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: At the phone, the world Traveler here.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, I'm gonna say something on the back end
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: of this, But every time I looked at my phone,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: there was something happening.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Minnesota does something crazy.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I see Hartenstein signs a three year, seventy five million
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: dollar deal. I was like, I thought Oklahoma City didn't
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: like him, and now you like him enough for twenty
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: five million year? Okay, fine, What was gonna say about
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: San Diego? That freaks me out?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: Though I don't know how a place exists.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Where I could wear a sweatshirt or b shirtless and
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: feel the exact same thing, the exact same temperature San
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Diego doesn't make sense to me. How it's It doesn't
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: matter if I was wearing a coat or if I
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: was naked, I would feel the same temperature wise, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: What you mean.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I was wearing a long sleeve shirt on the beach
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and then I showed off my tourist pasty chest to
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: all these San Diego people, and I felt the exact
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: same afterwards. I didn't philly drop in temperature. And I
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: don't get it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: Is there something wrong with you?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: No, you look around the beach.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: There's people wearing sweatshirts and people that are shirtless, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: everybody's comfortable that.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: The climate doesn't make sense. I love it. It just
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: doesn't make sense.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: Now you know why my daughter lives in southern California.
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: Now you know why they've jammed what twenty five to
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: thirty million people in that part of the country. They
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: just jammed them in. They just shoehorned thirty million people
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: in southern count said here, you go, enjoy. Why do
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: you think they all live there? Do you think they
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: live there for the earthquakes?
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy, dude, is that we stayed in downtown.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, they love their Padres around there.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I went to a Padres game Friday night, Cool Park
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: by the way, but they were playing the Dodgers. That
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: place was infested with Dodgers and there were people everywhere
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: downtown wearing Padres stuff. And it's like, it doesn't matter
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: where you go. And I know it's close to LA,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter where you go. Dodgers fans they
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: just they absolutely infest your building.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: But doesn't it make you mad? I know it does
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: for me every time I visit San Diego. It's a
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: beautiful town, beautiful city. You know, they had a proud
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: little heritage in San Diego. Why in the hell would
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: the Chargers move to LA.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: That's so dumb.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: It's a beautiful place.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It's so dumb.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: They're left with one professional sports team. They used to
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: have the San Diego Clippers basketball team.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: They literally I think that place is kind of look.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I understand that they only have one team, so maybe
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it's easier to root for just your one team now.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: I saw Sean Merriman football jerseys there. I was like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: these guys do love their sports around here. I thought
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: the same thing because like.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Silly that is.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: Think about how silly that now the Chargers are renting.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: They don't even have their own stadium. They're renting a stadium.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Their fan base is very limited. Nobody in LA.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: Cares about the Chargers.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: What are you doing?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: What do you do?
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Get?
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Why are they not in San Diego?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: By the way, I got a question because I saw
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: the Minnesota trade because we all thought when they traded
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Julius Randall, all right, well in will step nas Reed
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: to take his place in the starting lineup.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: And then nas Reed gets traded for LaMelo Ball.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I have a question surrounding this in Tim Conley's mindset
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: on their team and how it affects the Nuggets. I
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: want to get to in just a second.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Stick around.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, when I saw the Minnesota trade, when they got
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Lamello Ball and they traded away Nasried.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: And a million draft picks, two things hit me.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Number one is when Tim Conley was here and he
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: was running the Nuggets, he came in the studio with
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: us multiple times. He sat in a chair just like
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: that across from us. And do you guys remember we
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: asked him about trades.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Do you remember what he said? So it was really
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: hard for him.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he likes his guys.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: He had an attachment to his players, and we wondered forever,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: especially after the Nuggets won a title, when Calvin Booth
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: took over, trade Will Barton, acquired KCP did all of that?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Would Tim Conley have done the same thing, Because if
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you think that's largely responsible for, or at least a
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: huge reason why the Nuggets won a title like that's
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: that's a pretty massive question to ask. And since arriving
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota he has traded everyone, he has not had
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: near that same sort of feeling, at least from the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: actions of that organization.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: But here's the other question.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Do you buy into the idea that Tim Conley when
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: he took over in Minnesota, he built a team to
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: specifically negate what the Nuggets were doing, That he built
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a team to stop joker in jamal In what the
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Nuggets built, Because a lot of people believe that that
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: that was the.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Goal of his roster acquisition in team building was to
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: counter what the Nuggets had. Do you believe it?
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I can see it a little bit, especially with the
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: two big fellows they had at the time.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: Sure, but his goal was also to win as many
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: games as possible. Yes, ye, for a championship.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: But at that time, the Nuggets were the team that
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: was standing in everybody's way.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: They just seemed to be.
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: They just won the title.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: Do these moves, if you believe that, signify that he
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: no longer sees him as a threat. Could be because
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: everything that he did in acquiring the Twin Towers, approach,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert and Cat okay trade Cat, bringing Julius Randall
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: have noasried come off the bench, the big approach that
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: people thought messed with how the Nuggets did business.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: He's abandoned it.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, but there are more threats now, Well look
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: at what they've done.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: They've done.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are more threats in the West than the
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: just the Denver Nuggets.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: They have traded away they're bigs, right, two bigs for guards.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Who did they lose to in the playoffs this year?
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: A guard heavy team that just came at him in
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: droves and guards who they lose to last year? A
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: guard heavy team. Maybe they see that's the way to go.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Now, Well, that's that's what I'm saying, is have have
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: they now put the Nuggets to the side?
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: And said.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: We got that handled or I'm not worried about that anymore.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: We need to compete with these other teams. Perhaps perhaps
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: that's a part of it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I really don't care to be totally blunt with
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: you what Minnesota does and what their tactics are and
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: their strategy.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Who cares well.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I think it does matter that that's a team that
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: seems to have your number. I mean, they if you
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: face off with them in the playoffs again, they're a
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: team that's got I mean each time you played them
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: since you won the title, it's got me.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: I think if you focus on playing and beating just
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: one team, you've lost the race. You've got to get
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: a roster that can beat any team, not just one team.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: But they're changing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm telling you is they're changing the
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: way they're doing business, and theirs is easier because if
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you need to go sort of guard heavy to compete
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: with teams, will your best player is a guard?
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: AKC is in front of you. I mean, okay, C's
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: right there, san Antonio is there. There are victor are
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: other teams now that you've been in different kinds of ways,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: and so pick your poison. I guess if you're Minnesota
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: or your Denver or your what. I just want the Nuggets.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I just want the Nuggets to be able to be whole.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: This week is gonna be crazy in the NBA. There
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: are gonna be stories, reports, free agency. It's gonna be
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: a crazy weekend. But one story that was sort of
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: under the radar that's out there right now. One report
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: is that the Nuggets and I wondered about this too, guys.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: I wish I would have brought this up last week
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: because this was at the forefront of my thoughts. I said,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: after the season they went through, I wonder if the
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: Nuggets would consider bringing in a veteran coach to sit
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: on the bench. And they're considering it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: They're talking to.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: And I believe you pronounce the name Yeager, Dave Yeger,
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: former NBA head head coach. He's one of the guys
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: that they're speaking to right now. And if I told you,
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: if I asked you, guys, what role would an NBA
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: former NBA head coach play on this team?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: What would he do? I would assume just be an
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: overall advisor. I would assume, Yeah, what do you think
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: it like?
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Specifically specifically, yeah, yeah, I think I think you're can
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: be in charge of.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Coach.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I'll answer the question for you. I'm sorry to ask
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: questions that I know the answers to, but I think
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: that's what he'd be.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: No, you ask questions where you're looking for one specific answer,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and we have literally ten correct things.
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: It's my biggest advice.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: It's my voice.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I'm wrong there, and I apologize. I apologize for asking
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: questions that I know the answer to. I'm sorry, Well, no,
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: we we might know the answer as well. You really
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: just very rarely do know the answer. I is a
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: question just to allow everyone to partake. But I would
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: say your hit rate on knowing the answers to these
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: questions is maybe under four percent.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: It'd be like, I, what for the Denver bron goes,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: what's the biggest concern going into the next year. Now
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: everybody can have their own and make a strong case.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: You say, no, that's stupid, No, you're wrong, Nope, you're dumb.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Not it's Boni's ankles.
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I've already apologized, so I don't want to lay it
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: out anything. I asked questions that I know the answers to,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: and I asked them in more of a a dialogue standpoint.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I want dialogue now because you're not fit to answer
• 40:15
  Speaker 5: them properly. Is not my fault.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: You're an assalogue. You're not that guy. You know.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: What's funny whenever something like this happens, it does remind
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: me of this, and a textra points it out.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: It's the NBA version of Jerry Rossberg. You guys remember that.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nathaniel Hackett was was it time management? That's why
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: he was brought in or something like that, And it's like,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: let's bring in this old guy and just have him
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: sit at the booth so we can say this, use
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: your time out now, like that was his job, like
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: you had somebody that was his job. And then he
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: eventually became the interim head coach.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: Right hits the button now the time now.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: And it started in the first first week when you
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: burned forty seconds to attempt the sixty five thousand yards.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, now, now's a good time to call time out.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: Oh god, But I find it interesting among all the
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: all the news were the items out there that the
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: Nuggets going after a veteran assistant, which I think they
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: wanted to do last year and couldn't land one. I
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: think that was the that was the goal last year.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: So they settled on just former I know that Brea
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: and Dudley were coaches at the time too, but more
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: of a former player feel to it.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I welcome sort of anything.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: The funny thing about the Nuggets offs or playoffs was
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: they didn't lose because they played bad defense. I'm not
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: claiming they were a good defensive team, but their defense
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: was fine in the playoffs.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Couldn't make shots, they couldn't have a shot.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's weird because they were like the best
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: offensive team in the league.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Sure, I'm telling you, man, it's just it just was freaky, deeky, freaky.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: So a lot more to discuss with this offseason now.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: Again, rumors abound. This is why the NBA. I still
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: maintain this. The NBA their main reason for popularity. It
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: might sound stupid, but I do think it's true. They
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: are so much more an acquisition league than they are
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: an actual game league. I think more people are obsessed
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: with what, yeah, with player movement than they are with
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: actually watching the game.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, player movement.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: You're so right about that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, going all the way back to the decision
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: with Lebron James, right player movement, free agency in the
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: NBA trades, they they really know how to do it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: They dominate the off season with that stuff.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Hell even during the regular Yeah, in the middle of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the season, it's like you're watching guy, he's playing really well.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I wonder if he'll get traded.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: But you know why though, too, it's pretty much sport.
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: It's only five eyes on the court. It's it's individualized,
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: so they it matters more.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Incidentally, I know this is gonna sound mean. I'd like
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: to say goodbye to nas read, whom I like him
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: as as players guy I like to from the division.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I like to goodbye to him because I'm probably never
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: going to talk about him ever. Again. He's a Charlotte
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Hornet most I know they were playing team, I know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: but but Charlotte is the most inoffensive basketball team in
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: the history of the league. I'm just not even going
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: to think about him or them or anything. So nas Audios,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: it's been nice knowing you around. Take that l on
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the way out.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Most you weren't here after that deal went through. And
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: it's a few days later and I'm looking at the
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Minnesota Timberwolves and I acknowledge that, you know, Tim Connley
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: will take chances when no one else will. But I
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: look at that trade and I say, what the hell
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: are you doing? I know, what are you doing? What
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: is that LaMelo Ball?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Well, do you think LaMelo Ball is a way better
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: player than he is? But because he plays in Charlotte nobody.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: He's an exciting player. It's fun to watch him play.
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: He's an entertaining player. But he's gonna let you down
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: at some point. That's all I'll say. He's gonna let
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: you down at some point.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll get back to this in a little bit.
• 44:21
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• 44:26
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