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Quintana to Brewers is a STEAL, Nate Lowe joins, Bender denies tipping allegations · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: He wants everyone to feel sorry for him. Well you
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  Speaker 1: if you did what they're accusing you of, no one's
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  Speaker 1: gonna feel sorry for you. It's just a bad look
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  Speaker 1: for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's vout territory at Nationals camp and Daniel Lowe is
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  Speaker 2: leading off top of the show here. Good to see you, man,
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  Speaker 2: And did you expect to be here? I mean, you
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  Speaker 2: end up on the Washington Nationals as their first baseman.
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  Speaker 2: Could you have imagined that a year ago?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? I mean, you know, he never rule out any
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  Speaker 3: possibility of playing for anybody barring the teams that have
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  Speaker 3: first baseman signed a big long deals. But yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: it's a it's a little bit of a shock, but
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  Speaker 3: it's exciting. I'm happy to be here. We're looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to a great summer.
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  Speaker 4: Back in Florida. That's what he's excited about, Scott. He's back.
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  Speaker 4: Give her that Arizona crab.
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  Speaker 5: He's back in Florida for Florida desert.
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  Speaker 1: No more sinus infections from all the dust. He can
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  Speaker 1: go fishing if he wants, we can go golfing.
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  Speaker 3: All those calluses rip open, like right away when you
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  Speaker 3: get to the desert.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just don't. I just don't understood. So how
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  Speaker 1: is camp ben so far I've been here?
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  Speaker 5: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Three week Yeah, it's like that two week to three
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  Speaker 3: week period where it kind of feels like two days
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  Speaker 3: and kind of feels like two months, you know, so
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  Speaker 3: like we're counting down the days to where it really counts.
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  Speaker 3: It's nice to get the guys like on a routine
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  Speaker 3: and kind of figure out when you're gonna play and
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  Speaker 3: gig used to playing next to Louis and then whoever's
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  Speaker 3: going to be around the rest of the infield. We've
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  Speaker 3: got a good group here, man, So it's it's nice
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  Speaker 3: to get settled in and get into a rhythm.
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  Speaker 4: Who have you met that you have just clicked with
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  Speaker 4: so far?
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  Speaker 5: I mean there's nobody that I haven't. I mean you're
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  Speaker 5: a nice joy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I feel like you kind of would
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  Speaker 1: click with everybody, But there's got to be one per
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  Speaker 1: Is there one person maybe you've kind of gravitated towards.
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  Speaker 3: I like talking with Josh Bell, I really do his
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  Speaker 3: lockers right next to mine. Both of us are like
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  Speaker 3: above average height guys who fit in nine to eleven somehow,
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  Speaker 3: so we got that going on. It's fun to rag
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  Speaker 3: on him for like getting used to driving a stick
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  Speaker 3: and a GT three for the first time, so like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of us get a stick and
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  Speaker 3: like aren't driving a two hundred thousand dollars sports car.
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  Speaker 3: You had to drive a stick, I mean loosely, so
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  Speaker 3: you're yeah, I mean I can still out for sure
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  Speaker 3: with the best.
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  Speaker 6: Eleven.
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  Speaker 5: For everybody doesn't know what a nine to eleven is eleven.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing is not used to talking to common fuse,
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  Speaker 1: he just says nine to eleven?
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  Speaker 5: Is it used or is it new? I think his
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  Speaker 5: is used. I know mine's used. For sure. We can't
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  Speaker 5: afford the new yet, you know.
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  Speaker 6: Ten million dollars.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but like you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like when you're buying new Porsche's, like you
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  Speaker 3: gotta be on a big deal because they lose money
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  Speaker 3: like anything else.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, as I'm gonna I'm gonna inform you
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  Speaker 1: of this as a as a Porsche dealer, it's a Porsche.
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  Speaker 5: If you say Porsche, oh god, how dare you? How
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  Speaker 5: dare you v the American?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it's a Porsche. It's a Porsche. Okay, I learned
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  Speaker 4: that the hard way.
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  Speaker 2: We don't have a bonus promo code for getting a car.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, I wish we did I wish.
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  Speaker 2: Scott code foul for a freet note note epic. All right,
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  Speaker 2: so all right, go ahead, crats, you got one.
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  Speaker 6: No, No, I was just gonna say.
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  Speaker 7: I was just gonna say you went from Texas over
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  Speaker 7: here to Washington where you went from kind of like
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  Speaker 7: the young guy to now you're the old guy. Is
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  Speaker 7: that a like quick switch that you have to flip
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  Speaker 7: and be like, Guys, I'm sitting in the front of
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  Speaker 7: the bus, you know, look at my silver slugger and
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  Speaker 7: my ring like.
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  Speaker 3: Or you just being who you are. No, No, I
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  Speaker 3: fit in. I fit in really nicely with this group.
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  Speaker 3: So regardless of how much time these guys have or
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  Speaker 3: how old they are, it's it's pretty good, pretty good
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  Speaker 3: to be around these guys who are looking for some
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  Speaker 3: direction and you know, being able to help out the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the infielders, guys in the lineup, whether it's
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  Speaker 3: just you know, getting used to the life or getting
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  Speaker 3: your family moved somewhere, just being comfortable in the clubhouse.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna assume the role and do the best that
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  Speaker 3: I can do because there's still plenty of guys here
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  Speaker 3: with more time than I have. So it's not like
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  Speaker 3: I'm the season vet. I mean I haven't even hit
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  Speaker 3: free agency, but to be able to kind of help
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  Speaker 3: these guys along their journey and help them get the most.
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  Speaker 5: Out of their career, Like we're poised for a great summer.
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  Speaker 4: Who's impressed you're talking about these young guys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Cruise the player would hits it so fun?
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, all of them. Yeahis Louis Garcia, Like
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  Speaker 3: the way he gets to the high pitch is amazing,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like there's never been a high fastball. I
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  Speaker 3: think that he's seen that he doesn't think he can
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  Speaker 3: get on top of. And then you know, like there's
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  Speaker 3: depth the I'm getting used to all the pitchers. I
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  Speaker 3: don't really have a feel for like who entirely is
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  Speaker 3: who yet, just because some of the guys that have
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  Speaker 3: been around like haven't really gotten into the game. You know,
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  Speaker 3: camp goes so ideally in the next couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: will be able to run out the leverage guys and
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  Speaker 3: see the starters get a little deeper through the order.
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  Speaker 3: So it's, uh, it's pretty promised. Yeah, right, Hey, guys,
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  Speaker 3: Well I got the key.
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  Speaker 1: I've been in the American League. My I'm gonna need
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  Speaker 1: you guys in the nationally guys, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Where you are the key and the lockers the best,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Like you get to a new clubhouse and
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  Speaker 3: you get the staff and their name and their faces
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  Speaker 3: underneath it.
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  Speaker 5: Like that's so big because even like.
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  Speaker 4: When did they start doing that? Because I was never
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  Speaker 4: on a.
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  Speaker 5: Team I had asked for it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but like I don't know, you can only
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  Speaker 5: So long there's my guy, yeah there he is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but no first and last names, knowing where guys
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  Speaker 3: like what affiliate they're gonna be with, Like which guy's
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  Speaker 3: a double A, triple A rovers.
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  Speaker 6: What about pictures. I know you face some live some lives.
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  Speaker 7: Is there anybody that you're like, whoa, I didn't realize
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  Speaker 7: that he was that nasty, Or you're like, eh, I
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  Speaker 7: took all of them deep.
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  Speaker 6: They all stink.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Farrera, like Ferrera, I stood behind. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to get into the batter soox you know, anybody
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  Speaker 3: sinking ninety eight left handed with you know that can
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  Speaker 3: spray a fastball is.
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  Speaker 5: Not like pretend guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry sorry I'll just get on base with lefties,
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  Speaker 3: that's all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's skill.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, no, no, well yeah, but which a skill.
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  Speaker 5: We'll leave that one where it is now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Gore Williams, all these guys like frustrating at
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  Speaker 3: bats left and right, Soroka's back, I'm gonna go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and say that whatever he's doing with his four seam
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  Speaker 3: and the curveball like, it's it's cool to see because
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  Speaker 3: I saw the the Soroka that was sinking it at
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  Speaker 3: the bottom, you know, and like was an automatic round ball.
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  Speaker 3: But now it feels like he's really bringing in some
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  Speaker 3: swinging miss stuff.
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  Speaker 5: So it's nice to see him take that step.
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  Speaker 3: And then between the young guys, Honestly, I really don't
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  Speaker 3: know who's in the mix and who's not, but there
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  Speaker 3: are guys left and right that can get ball across
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  Speaker 3: the plate and get early contact and get it out.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, fans are asking about the rest of the division,
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on. Obviously, teams like the Braves, the Phillies
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  Speaker 2: and the Mets added a little bit of help, including
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  Speaker 2: some offense in form or nat Won Soda.
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  Speaker 3: Sure it's gonna be exciting. I'm happy to play in
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  Speaker 3: the East again. I like going to New York. I
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  Speaker 3: like playing.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Miami is a good place to play. I
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  Speaker 5: think sneaky. I'll tell you what I mean. There's really really.
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  Speaker 1: Good you're talking about, not the ballpark in restaurant. I
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  Speaker 1: love at the really nice hotel in Miami on the beach. Fabulous,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. What I'm talking about when you
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  Speaker 1: actually get to the park, I.
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  Speaker 5: Mean, like, you know you're going to compete, like maybe
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  Speaker 5: maybe it's a little break.
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  Speaker 3: You know, say, say you're in a stretch where like
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  Speaker 3: coming down to the wire, you're playing in playoff teams.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not saying Miami is not a playoff team. They're
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  Speaker 3: a major league team. Everybody should be poised to win.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, with the way the records reflected going
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  Speaker 3: into it, maybe it's a break. And obviously it's not
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  Speaker 3: a game that you can look over because anybody can
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  Speaker 3: beat anybody every night. But maybe it's nice to get
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  Speaker 3: a little quieter atmosphere in the ballpark.
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  Speaker 5: What I mean.
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  Speaker 6: Said nobody ever.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, but it's like the nicest guy in the world.
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  Speaker 5: It'd be fun to go.
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  Speaker 3: Back to Atlanta. It'll be fun to go to Philly.
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  Speaker 3: I'm excited to play in New York.
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  Speaker 5: You know. Obviously Nats Park is nice too, and then yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I like the East, I really do. Who doesn't.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, so this might be a better question
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  Speaker 7: the next time you come on. But you were in
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  Speaker 7: the American League West and you face the Mariners rotation?
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  Speaker 7: Have you faced the Phillies rotation consistently? And I want
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  Speaker 7: to know who you think is better? And then when
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  Speaker 7: you come on the next time, I really want to
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  Speaker 7: know who you think is better, because you're gonna see
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  Speaker 7: them just as much as you saw the Mariners.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, okay, yeah, I'll I'll make note of it
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  Speaker 3: and pay attention to what happens, because yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but we saw the Seattle guys so much you never
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  Speaker 3: really like get used to it just because the stuff's
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  Speaker 3: so good. But you definitely know what you're signing up
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  Speaker 3: for when you go into a weekend in Seattle or
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  Speaker 3: a four game set whenever it is.
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  Speaker 5: So it'd be nice to see the Phillies mix.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously they're making big ads too, and they want to contend,
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  Speaker 3: so it'll be a lot of fun to go there
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  Speaker 3: and obviously play in a super loud.
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  Speaker 5: Environment, and you know, yeah, it's exciting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little different Miami and Philly. So you
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  Speaker 4: go in New York, Atlanta, Philly, and in Miami.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. It was a little different. It'll
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  Speaker 5: be nice to have the like difference in atmosphere. Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Change of pace, Yeah, you'll see it.
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  Speaker 1: The change of pace is nice with me here, I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking right now. Sorry, I'm looking for When do you
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  Speaker 1: guys play Texas?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's in June.
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  Speaker 4: Is it on the road or is it at home?
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  Speaker 5: It's at home. It's at home. We don't go back
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  Speaker 5: to Texas till next year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So is it gonna be awkward because I I
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  Speaker 1: know you've been in other organizations, but you were kind
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  Speaker 1: of a ranger in the World Series there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you step into the box the first time.
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  Speaker 5: And I want to be excited, is it gonna meet
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  Speaker 5: because I.
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  Speaker 1: Always wonder, just because people would always ask me, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you change teams the first time, does it mean
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  Speaker 1: more like, say you get a hit to win that
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  Speaker 1: game or because they traded you away?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So, like Minnesota traded me to San Francisco and then
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  Speaker 1: I went to the White sox So that first time
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  Speaker 1: I played, especially on the road in the old Metronome,
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  Speaker 1: it was like this just means more.
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  Speaker 3: Because you got rid of me. Yeah, it's something similar
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  Speaker 3: for sure. I mean I remember the first game I
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  Speaker 3: went back to Tampa. I know, I hit a homer
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  Speaker 3: to left, and I was like, man, that should count
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  Speaker 3: for four homers, you know, just because like you come
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  Speaker 3: up in the organization, you play with the guys for
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  Speaker 3: so long, like you appreciate what all they've done to
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  Speaker 3: get you in that to that point of your career,
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  Speaker 3: and then obviously they felt the need to have somebody
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  Speaker 3: else play your position, so you like, you know, there's
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  Speaker 3: no like malice at all, definitely not.
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  Speaker 5: But like I'm not going back there to lose.
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  Speaker 4: Nice, right, I like it, right, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want to run into Tampa and lose because
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  Speaker 3: that's a difficult place to play as a road guy.
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  Speaker 5: Tampa.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like Miami, oh yeah, super loud.
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  Speaker 5: To get me in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Especially, I mean, imagine how quiet oly. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be crazy. I'm actually yeah, I'm not upset that
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: we're not going to Steinbrenner this year. They're coming to us. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's going to be some. I mean they're going to
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  Speaker 3: lead the league in doubleheaders, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. Wait, I want to take you back to
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  Speaker 2: when you got traded to the Nats. Where were you
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  Speaker 2: in that first base carousel that occurred. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was like a twenty four to forty eight hour stretch
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  Speaker 2: right before a holiday. Maybe it was right before Christmas
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  Speaker 2: or things. Yeah, right before Christmas, Christmas. Yeah, and then
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  Speaker 2: like six first baseman found new seats.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think Walker signed first in Houston, not that I
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: didn't think Houston was ever an option. And then like
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: my friends are sending me tweets because I don't look
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: at Twitter. Thought I was looking at it more this winter.
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: And then obviously like Yankees, Twitter was like, all right,
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  Speaker 3: get him over here. And then I think gold Schmid
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: signed there, and Naylor went to Arizona, Santana went to Cleveland,
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  Speaker 3: and I told my wife, I was like, all right, cool,
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  Speaker 3: if Goldschmid's in New York, we're not getting traded. I
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  Speaker 3: think we're going to be able to stay here for
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  Speaker 3: another year because we bought a house in February and
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  Speaker 3: it was like a real treat to live at home.
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  Speaker 3: And live in your own house and go to the ballpark.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously my wife's family's from there, so it works
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  Speaker 3: out really nice. But I said it out loud, and
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  Speaker 3: then two days later, I'm on a hunting trip and
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  Speaker 3: Chris Young's name.
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  Speaker 5: Pops up on my phone. I'm like, oh, no, here
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  Speaker 5: we go? Oh no, where am I going?
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  Speaker 3: You know, because the way it worked before too is
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  Speaker 3: like Eric Neander had texted me and said, hey, you're
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  Speaker 3: in a move.
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  Speaker 5: I'll call you in a sec.
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  Speaker 3: So when you see the GM's name pop up in December,
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  Speaker 3: you're like, all right, something's going on with the roster.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna move somewhere.
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  Speaker 6: Do you ever have to pay for another beer again?
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  Speaker 6: In Texas?
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty spoiled, man, I've gotten treated so well and like,
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  Speaker 3: aside from winning and having like the history of the
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: organization be changed by finally getting a championship, Like, I
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: think the reception from the people makes the World Chainampionship
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  Speaker 3: that much better because people were just so happy, like
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  Speaker 3: they were truly excited to have a championship team, truly
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  Speaker 3: excited to like see a new ballpark and feel like
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  Speaker 3: the organization's like making the turn to be a perennial
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  Speaker 3: contender for sure.
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  Speaker 5: You know, there was a lot of meals that were
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  Speaker 5: paid for that winter.
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  Speaker 3: Right away, I'm seeing pictures in barbershops of like a
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  Speaker 3: family that was at the old stadium before Globe Life,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like with the block Texas tea on the
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  Speaker 3: hat and the throwback logo or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But people that have been fans for fifty sixty years,
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  Speaker 5: and like it felt.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Like a really cool moment to be able to help
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: them fulfill like what every team sets out to do
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: every year.
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: What you missed the most about Texas?
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: Is it a play?
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: Is it one of your teammates? Is it something outside
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: of the ballpark.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: I think after spending after spending four years there, aside
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: from the three leasing seasons and obviously the world title season,
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: I felt like I was able to branch out and
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: actually have friends, you know, Like I had friends that
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: were in different golf clubs and I get spoiled and
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: have access to go out and play with them, you know,
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: like but people that like through my wife and her friends,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I have a friend group and it feels like an
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: extended family, you know, Like you don't go to church
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: all season, and then you get to go on Sundays
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: in the off season and feel like you're actually plugging
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: into a community.
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: I got to see the local high school team and
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: hang out with some of.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Those kids, like get to go to a batting cage
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: not at the field for the first time this winter,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: and hang out with other pro players that are like
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: in the DFW.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: So having access like that and having a.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: Network like that, I'm definitely gonna miss working around them,
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: but it's gonna make an off season great too.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: Good. Last thing, Sure, you're now at Washington Nationales.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Are you a history guy? Because you are now in
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: the basically the hub of American history? So will you
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: be at the monuments trying to sneak into the White House?
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: No? Nothing, No, I got to do the White House
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: last summer.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: True, true, true, But I don't know if you you know, you.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Know, I'm gonna walk my dog in the morning. That's it. Yeah,
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: that's about it.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Okay, So you're not you're not going to be you
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: know what the mon the.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Family comes in town and wants to go, then they
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: can go. But like, I don't know, I love them,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: but I'm not going to go walk the National Mall.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Do you want to go watch the Smithsonian for Miles Ago.
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: No.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: I mean I do it at some point just to
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: check the box, but I don't really see myself getting
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: out there and sweating walking around before I have to
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: go sweat at seven o'clock and obviously get after it
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: that night when it really counts.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Got it all right, understood, I understood.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: That's called tourism load management. It's very smart.
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: I like that small this.
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, Nathaniel, awesome to see you man. Welcome to NAT's camp.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: I'm so you've been there for a minute, But good
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: luck the rest of the spring here and we'll talk
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to you during the season.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks guys, thanks for having me on.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I'll bring this one up while we have a moment,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: and it sounds like Mike Rozova will be ready to
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: join us next segment. Just to cap off the news
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: from yesterday about Louise Heel, we did learn Kratz that
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: he's going to be shut down for at least six weeks.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: We had talked about the lad strain a lot of
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Yankees reporters. We're talking about how Clark Schmidt had a
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: similar injury last year and missed over three months. So
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: this is a massive, massive blow to the Yankees rotation.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: Do they have depth?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, Stroman slots right in, but then the depth depth
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: starts to thin after that.
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: It does.
• 17:29
  Speaker 7: One thing the Yankees do do good job of is
• 17:31
  Speaker 7: Bemile have people on you know, on call on Triple A.
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: But I expect them to go out and make some
• 17:37
  Speaker 7: type of move in the sense of how do we
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: get more depth. I'm not saying that they're going to
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: go out and get Kyle Gibson and slot them into
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: the rotation. But if there's a Lance Lin that's available,
• 17:50
  Speaker 7: I don't know, you'll see he's been there. Like, you
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: need to make sure you have somebody that can pick
• 17:54
  Speaker 7: up innings in case or when one of these five guys.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Go down, right, so you might miss him for about
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: a half a season. Remember Stroman at the beginning of
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: spring training set I'm a starter. He is most definitely
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: a starter now. And actually some fans brought up how
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: he's got some clause. I think he's got to hit
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: one hundred and forty innings for that player option to
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: actbate for the next season. I mean, if he stays
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: on the mound, he's probably getting that action. So it
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: actually works out depth wise, I do not see him
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: being traded now. I didn't see him being traded anyway,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: at least not for the first few months here this season.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I definitely don't see him being traded now. So it
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: is a nice guy to have on the outside looking
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: in to slot in now, to be part of that five.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Man charging about.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: We're back, We're charging the mound. We have a signing.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: It is March fourth. Jose Kintana is a Milwaukee Brewer.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: One year contract, four million bucks, two hundred and fifty
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars, roster bonus. What do you think, Kratz, this
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: is right. I'm gonna go here. We didn't love the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Frankie Montas signing, and he was on the Brewers last year.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Obviously he was not in their price range. He's hurt
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: right now. He might come back and be great for
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the Mets. He signed a two year deal for thirty
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: four million bucks with an opt out for himself after
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: year one. So he's making seventeen million dollars a year.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: That is four times the salary of Jose Kintana. Kintana
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: is making four million dollars. Well, I'll even pro rate
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it this way. Let's say Montas comes back in May.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Who has a better season from May through October? Jose
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Kintana or Frankie Montas in terms of preventing runs.
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: For everybody who's watching or listening to this, I want
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: to have like a dramatic pause after Scott asked that
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: that is like the easiest. You just teed up and
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: put the ball right next to the fence to hit
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: a dinger. Mean, I don't think it's close. There's a
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: track record, and I get it. He had to rebuild
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: his like health status, Q did Jose Kintana had. I
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: think in twenty three he had like thirteen or fourteen starts.
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: But this dude goes out and pitches. He goes out
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: and pitches. He throws out of the bullpen if you
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: need him. He has been very, very much the level
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: of consistency that you're looking for. He's not even gonna
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: slot in as a number five. To me, if he
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: would be on the Mets right now, he wouldn't be
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: their number five.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: And you're paying him.
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: The Brewers are very advantageous about these kinds of deals,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: finding the guy at the end of free agency, at
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: the end of the end of the offseason, beginning of
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: spring training to slot in to be a huge integral
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: part of the team. So long answer to your question,
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: Josey Kintana is absolutely a steal right now, especially for
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: that price, especially when you can when you compare it
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: to a guy like you compared it to.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a three one eight ERA in the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: second half of the season for the Mets. He was
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: great in that playoff game. He hides the ball. Well,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: it's just not sexy stuff, and it's not sexy stat
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: cast numbers. It's gotta be it. Otherwise, how does this
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: guy not have a job? Almost everybody across the league
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: used him as the one example at the end here
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: where they were like, this is run prevention, this is
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: this is ten mili plus for your number four starter.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Let's call it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: Okay, if you like, if you don't like soft contact,
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: if you don't like a guy that last year came
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: out and made thirty one starts, if you don't like
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: like if you're looking for big punch outs, okay, got
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: you gotta start. You gotta start going to the top
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: of the free agent market at the beginning of the
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: off season, and you gotta go pay for those guys.
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: This is a guy to me, he's an eight to
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: ten million dollar pitcher based on whether the market's at
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: maybe even a ten to thirteen million dollar pitcher. And
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: the Brewers just got him for four point twenty five
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: I think, or four point.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: Five it's four plus the roster.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: That is crazy. That is crazy work.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: And it's just another great move by the Brewers, And yes,
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: I can be a Homer for it, but there's also
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: the added part of Hussey. Kintana has pitched incredible against
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: the Brewers, and you sit there and you go, this
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: dude is okay pitching in a small ballpark like Milwaukee,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: and he's not a big punch out guy. He gives
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: you everything that you need. And more like this is
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: this is a big pickup, and some teams are going
• 22:35
  Speaker 7: to be kicking themselves for not spending four four million,
• 22:39
  Speaker 7: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think there there are others too. I'm
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: picking on one name, but I look at Kintana and
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, cool, I'd rather have him.
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And you can't And you can't do that.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Every one of those guys, even Frankie Montos is coming
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: in the off season going I'm going to be an
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: All Star this year. Every to get you in the
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: mindset of a pitcher, of a player that's getting ready
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: for the season. Every one of these dudes is preparing
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: to be way above average, like they're gonna be an
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: All Star this year. So when you compare guys to
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: other guys, I'm kind of like, eh, I bristle to
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: that because in their mind, they're as good as the
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: money that they're getting. To me, you have to just
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: be realistic about what you're getting when you sign somebody,
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: and this is what you're getting. He's not on the
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: wrong side of forty like Posey's in great shape. He
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: is an ultra competitor too, like he's going to bring
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: more than justice pitching to that rotation.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: All right, So where are we at with Milwaukee? Does
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: this change anything for you? Does this make you feel
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: more comfortable because suddenly you look at their rotation. Okay,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Freddy praulta at the top. Great, He's been solid, been
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: pretty durable, great for me for Milwaukee as a number
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: one starter. Tobias Myers was awesome for them, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: breakout player for them. We'll see how he does his
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: sophomore season. After a breakout like that to be a
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: regular in the rotation here.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: It is.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: They acquired Nestra Cortez in the offseason from the Yankees.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I think he'll do well here in his free agent year.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Aaron Savali it was a trade last year and still
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: rates really well on Stuff Plus and some of the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: other metrics that measure how well your pitches play. And
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: then Jose Cantana obviously to round out a rotation with
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: two right's or make that three right's and two lefties.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Ashby I think was kind of the number six Woodrifft.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: We'll see how the recovery goes. d'El hall is out
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: for a little bit of time. Jacob Mazarowski throws a billion,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: but still is working on the command in control a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: little bit. He's in the miners, amongst some others. Point being,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: it's not a train wreck rotation. That's even actually rude
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: to call it that, Like I think it's it's now
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: looking to me Kratz more like an average major league rotation,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: and that might be good enough for the Brewers to
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: win another division.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: I love that you said average rotation, because I'll take
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: an average rotation because there's gonna be ebbs and flows
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: during the season. But I would say their depth is
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: above average because you're always looking at well, you don't
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: know what you're gonna get from a bounced back Big Wu.
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: You don't know what you're gonna get from Aaron Ashby.
• 25:17
  Speaker 7: You don't know what you're gonna get from Dal Hall.
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: Where's he gonna how's he gonna slot in?
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: To me?
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: If you have those three guys and you're uncertain about
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: what you're gonna get, if you can find two hundred
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: and ten to two hundred and thirty innings of starting
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: pitching from those three guys, Aaron Ashby has done a
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: great job bringing that big, huge banger to the bullpen,
• 25:40
  Speaker 7: maybe you can fill in there, Big Wu. He's not
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: gonna you know, you're gonna have to really walk him
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: along that baby steps, but just walk him along as
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: he's going through. But instead of one guy being your
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: depth piece, we talked about the Yankees possibly need more depth.
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: Instead one guy being your depth piece to try to
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: figure out one hundred and six the innings, you have
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: three that I think if they can get two hundred
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: and ten to two hundred and thirty innings out of
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: those guys, combined. Then all of a sudden, you're able
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: to mitigate any kind of ebbs and flows and ups
• 26:12
  Speaker 7: and downs that this starting rotation. Those five that you
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: just had are going to give you. And there's a
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: lot of upside there too. I love Tobias Myrs. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: love his fastball.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: All right, there you go. Great timing by Milwaukee. I mean,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: it's low risk. When it's at that rate it is,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: it is surprising. People in the chat are like, that's
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: it for him. Yeah, that's what happens this time of year.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It is surprising because starters will sometimes linger and injuries
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: will occur in a rotation. That wasn't a situation here.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It was just Milwaukee saying, we really have no budget
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: this offseason, so we're going to see if we can
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: wait it out and capture a guy that gives us
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: the magic two words in front offices that make them
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: drink surplus value exactlyse Cantana. We just talked about for
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: five minutes.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: I thought, I love it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I love this deal for Milwaukee. He's pitched great for
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Milwaukee or against Milwaukee, excuse me, for years.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I love this deal.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's great. It's a veteran guy that can
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: add to their rotation. You know, there's some questions when
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: what he's going to be ready and you showed the rotation.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You slide him right in there in the back end.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And he's a guy that takes the ball every fifth day,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: gives you innings, good lefty starter, veteran guy, good fell
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: in the clubhouse.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: I love the signing for Milwaukee.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Does it change your thoughts on the team at all?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: You know, But I mean, I think they're going to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: do what they do. They always win more games that
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: we expect them to. I think they're going to be
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in it again. Murph will have them. You know, they're undaunted.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: So I feel like Murph will have them ready to go.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: And I mean, as far as changing it, this isn't
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a this isn't a you know, franchise changing move. But
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it is a nice move and is a nice piece
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: for the Brewers to add to help them be better.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: They're going to be This will help them be better.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: This won't make them worse.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there are a few teams that aren't trying.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: That's pretty obvious. We talk about that for a good
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: chunk of the offseason. But aj when you look around
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: at rotations across baseball. Do you see all of them
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: perfectly aligned so much so that Jose Kantana doesn't fit there?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You know, at five mil plus.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of teams that could have signed Jose Kintana.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: So I don't know why.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: They didn't, but there's a lot of we can say that,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I about a lot of free agents that are out
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: there that haven't been signed. So I mean, I just
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on, but there's a lot of
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: teams out there that could definitely use Jose Kintana.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. Some of the other veteran starters
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: are like, all right, they're they're going to just be
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: talk to about a market that was set here with Kantana.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying the phone call now.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Good wanted to play and this is the best deal
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: he had on the table, so we took it. Right.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I understand that one signing affects another signing, but at
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the same time, if that's all you got, then you
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: got to take it or leave it. I'm sorry, it sucks,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: but that's the way life works, and that's the way
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: free agency. If you got one offer, guess what you
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: gotta take that one offer if you want to play.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: If you don't want to play, then you don't take
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: the offer. But if that's all you got, you take
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: it and you go play.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I saw a report from Joel Sherman last night saying
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: how duval Adam Duvall's gotten some calls, but he's like,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I'll retire if I don't get the number. And that's okay.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: But this is that point a year where that is
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: going to happen with some players. It's going to be
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: so low that they're just gonna be like, you know what,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I played for a while, I made plenty of money.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: I want to hang with the fam. Screw it, I'm done.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: The Sacks always hits bet MGM futures n el Cy Young,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: Paul Skeens at plus two hundred plus two hundred, Zach
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Wheeler plus eight hundred, Blake Snell plus nine hundred, Corbyn
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Burns plus thirteen hundred, Chrissale plus fourteen hundred. Obviously a
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: lot of similarities here to what we went over with
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: the wins total, but krats thoughts on sig, I.
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: Mean it was plus three hundred until Paul Skeens broke
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: that cutter out in the last game. So as soon
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: as he broke that out, it went down. So you're
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: you better buy the value before his first start, Zach Wheeler.
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: Zach Wheeler, this is his year. He's come close. But
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: the thing is he's going on this trajectory. Zach Wheeler.
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: What was that plus eight hundred plus nine hundred. I
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: forget exactly what it was. But to me, there's the value.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Anyone else you like. I like Corbyn Burns.
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: I love Corbyn Burns, and I know I'm kind of
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: repeating what I said with the wins total. I just
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: think what he does with that team. You saw how
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: he was kind of able to change who he was
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: with Baltimore. So to me, this year, no better way
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: to say, oh, you're paying me two hundred and ten
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: million dollars, I'll go see Ce Sabbathi style and go
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: and win a cy Young World Championship type of thing.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: In my first year of a new contract back in
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: two thousand and nine when he opened the new Yankee Stadium.
• 30:55
  Speaker 7: So to me, Corbyn Burns is my next one, especially
• 30:58
  Speaker 7: when I'm getting four digits in there US twelve hundred fourteen.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Love it.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Also, remember he hit a rough patch last year for
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a minute and then found it. Found it at the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: end of the year.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Again.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: He was going through a lot last year, right, newborn born, yep, contract.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: To your organization, contract year, a lot of things that
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: way into it. And he's still pitched through it. And
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: now he's got extra dad strength because the twins have
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: been born, and now he's he's got his feet under
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: him and he's playing at home.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Just watch out exactly and look out for bonus code foul.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Foul up to fifteen hundred dollars paid back in bonus
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: bets if you don't win your first bet when you
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: sign up and depause at least ten bucks on the
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: bet MGM app gambling problem more concern called one eight
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: hundred gambler.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: That's what he said.
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: That's what he said.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: That's what he said. All right, So we haven't had
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: time to cover this one yet, but we'll do it here.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Derek Bender was the minor leaguer who was accused of
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: giving away signs to the opposition in a ball last
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: year and then the opposing team told his skipper and
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: they essentially kicked him off the team. He was in
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: the Twins Org. He had just been a fifth round
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: pick of the organization. He spoke for the first time,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and it was kind of weird. I mean, I'm looking
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: at the quotes here, and obviously a great job by
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Sam Blum, who's really good on the investigative side for
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: the Athletic and who also covers the Angels and joins
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: us pretty frequently. But you know, I'll pick out a
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: few quotes here from Bender, who, of course, in the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: beginning of the story points out how he's been ghosted
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: by teammates, friends, etc. And you know, nothing's really been
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: resolved since the incident. They're trying to push things along.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It's still under investigation. You know, he's given away pitches
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: when he was playing Lakeland to prevent his team from
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: making the playoffs. That's the allegation. He was cut one
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: week later. It was kind of fairly a aj after
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: he had signed. It was a six round pick for
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: about three hundred thousand dollars, and he said, it's not
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: like I'm getting accused of a crime. He still denies
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: that any of it happened. There's no video evidence, despite
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the other five games in that particular series did have
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: you know, video that game just happened to not be
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: on video. However, they stream that thing.
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: So he did say. You know.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: In the story, it says Bender said, with an almost
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: indignant chuckle quote, and I'll live with this until the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: day I die. I never gave pitches away, never tried
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to give the opposing team an advantage against my own team.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: So there was some good background from Blum that he's
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: definitely a guy that has rubbed people the wrong way
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: as a person, so he didn't he didn't have that
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: on his side. But let's just get to the conclusion here.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Aj nothing has been announced. The league still investigating. My
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: guesses they're having a hard time coming up with enough
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: evidence to be like your band. But also, even if
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: he's not, is anyone really going to sign this guy?
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Do you really think a team would go to another
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: team and make up a story about someone giving away
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: signs about a player who had already been talking about
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: wanting the season to end to his fellow teammates. Is
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: there too much adding up here for anything to go
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: against what he's saying or to any Yeah.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's all circumstantial except for the fact that the team
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that they played against went to his own team and said, hey,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: this guy was doing this. We found out about it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: We just wanted to let you guys know. Now, Kratz
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and I told stories on here before. I remember playing
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: with guys and having to watch certain guys who would
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: do things in the field and give away pitches to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: their buddies on the other team, and you know, it
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, we caught them. We told them, We're like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: don't do this.
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: They stopped.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, like, you play the whole year,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and I know he was a draft pick, but still
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: you play to be in the playoffs. That's the best time.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Even in the minor leagues. You're playing in a playoff
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: game and it was only going to be one, maybe
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: two more games after this, so play as hard as
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you can and try to win. Even if it's a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: minor league ring, it's still cool you say, hey, I
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: got a minor league championship.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It just all adds up that he
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: was doing it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: And then if you read this, it's almost like he
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: he wants everyone to feel sorry for him. Well, you,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: if you did what they're accusing you of, no one's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: going to feel sorry for you. It's just a bad
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: look for me, I just don't. I don't know that
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: you know his maturity level. If this is true, obviously
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: that comes out and there's no evidence and it never happened,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I would be surprised. But if this is true, like
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: your integrity as a person is really has to be
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: questioned for the rest of your life until you prove otherwise.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Because there's a chance that you know, they make the playoffs.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: I think they're trying to get into the playoffs, and
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of guys who don't want to play in
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the playoffs in the minor leagues.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: I've heard that.
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: I never understood it, and I can honestly say no
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: big leaguers that I ever played with was like at
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: the end of the season, man, I hope the season
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: ends sooner than you know. If they're having a bad
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: year or something. It's one thing, but like to just
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: to sabotage your own team. Like the part that really
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: stuck out to me was he said, it's not like
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: I committed a crime. You're right, you didn't commit a crime,
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: but you're you know, if somebody, if people can trust
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: you after this. To me, that's the biggest thing, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: that's gonna last with you longer than you're playing, Like
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: playing is a finite time, a finite period of time
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: in your life, Like how you are as a person
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: is going to go a long way. And to me
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: to do this, I'm just sitting there, like, maybe he
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: didn't need to be in the game, Maybe he didn't
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: need to be somebody that took time away from somebody else.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: Just give someone else a shot and that's it. Go
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: on with your life.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a federal crime, but it was a
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: baseball crime. And here's the facts. He's not good enough
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: for another team to sign him. If he was like
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Juan Soto, Ronald Acuna Junior, Bryce Harper status, a team
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: would probably have been get over it. But in this case,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: six round pick, no team's going to look and be
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: like this is worth the storyline. So I doubt he's
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: ever going to be involved. He's playing some indie ball
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: or something like that, but I doubt he'll be involved
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: with anything else. And the real conclusion that I talked
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: about the other when this came out originally was if
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: you don't want to play, just go home, tell the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: team you're dealing with some stuff. And actually they would
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: have been fine, Hey, I'm going through some things. I
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: just need to take some time off. Teams are much
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: more understanding of things like that. They wouldn't have said,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: were you. You have to play in this game. You're
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: not a prisoner. So anyway, yeah, it was. It was
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: a weird approach. His agency told him not to talk
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and he still did so. All right, anyway, let's show
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you the spring training calendar.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: There it is as we accomplished Blue Jay's camp. This week,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: We're at NAT's camp right now, Astro's camp. Tomorrow will
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: steal Josel two days infield Glove, Thursday Phillies camp, and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Friday will talk to the Rays.