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Press Pass | Ethan Waugh: "Put all of those pieces together and figure out what's best for us." · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: A little bit surprised, you know, But I think as
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  Speaker 1: you get into kind of that range in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: teams kind of diverge a little bit on what they
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  Speaker 1: need to fill out their rosters, and you know, some
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  Speaker 1: players kind of slip a little bit, uh, and you
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  Speaker 1: end up, you know, getting a good bargain on the guy.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of strength do you see in him in
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  Speaker 2: the game?
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  Speaker 1: In him? I think when you see him out there today,
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  Speaker 1: you'll see a long player. You know, he's uh, he's
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  Speaker 1: very tall, he's glean, he's got long arms, covers a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ground and physical, He's a physical tackle. That's
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  Speaker 1: probably his best asset.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to spoil the new Roku series that's
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  Speaker 3: coming out, but they have described the Jag as the
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  Speaker 3: most active team on Day three. You could give us
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  Speaker 3: some insight perhaps about you know, spoiling the TV series
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  Speaker 3: as to how busy you were, and I know, obviously trying
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  Speaker 3: and allude to it when we spoke with him that Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, gotcha, it was. It was busy. So I think
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  Speaker 1: we had we had six picks. I think three six
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  Speaker 1: is three sevens uh and so, and the time frame
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  Speaker 1: on those picks is very small. So there's not a
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  Speaker 1: lot of trading. If there is a trade, it's happening
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  Speaker 1: very fast, and you're trying to get kind of everybody,
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  Speaker 1: make sure everybody's on board with these guys as they
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  Speaker 1: come off.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're also kind of trying to plan for
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  Speaker 1: free agency after the draft to fill out your ninety
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  Speaker 1: and as everything makes a pick, it changes you know,
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  Speaker 1: who's who's going to be available. So it is hectic,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's fun, you know. That's the that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the most active part of the draft weekend. Usually
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  Speaker 1: draft days are pretty boring, so a little little bit
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  Speaker 1: of activity is fun.
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  Speaker 5: Are you still surprised that you guys really weren't able
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  Speaker 5: to trade up?
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  Speaker 1: Not really surprised. I think it's, uh, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's just more difficult than others. You know, you have
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  Speaker 1: to it takes two to tango right the old cliche,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, and you have to get the right
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  Speaker 1: deal with the right team at the right time, and
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  Speaker 1: just you know, just unfortunately didn't work. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we're overall, we're pretty pleased with the guys we have.
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  Speaker 4: Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 2: When you don't have to investing because the antal injury,
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  Speaker 2: what kind of challenges that kind of figure out and
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  Speaker 2: verify speed.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's an interesting one. You're exactly right. Testing
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  Speaker 1: numbers are becoming less and less available in the draft
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  Speaker 1: at this point. So his was necessarily because of injury.
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  Speaker 1: But we have we have some other ways to measure speed.
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  Speaker 1: We also have information from the school, you know, their
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  Speaker 1: their strength coach can provide us with with all kinds
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  Speaker 1: of information about it. And then a big part of
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  Speaker 1: what we do here is just the video. You know,
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  Speaker 1: how fast does he play? How you know? Can he
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  Speaker 1: do the things that we're gonna ask up him once
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  Speaker 1: he's here? And I think he certainly can do that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a familiar life? Not really fast enough?
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I guess that's he falls
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  Speaker 1: in that category.
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  Speaker 4: Do you get beaten down and in GM in charge
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  Speaker 4: of making all those phone calls to try to move
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  Speaker 4: had a pretty rough day?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know it is that bad, but uh no,
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  Speaker 1: it's uh it's just kind of part of it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you make a lot of calls. The worst thing they
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  Speaker 1: can say is no, you know, but you just kind
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  Speaker 1: of have to keep keep digging, keep finding another another
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  Speaker 1: team that'll listen to you, and it's it's spread amongst
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  Speaker 1: a number of people too, So I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: take all the bread to that. Like Anton and Anton Harrison,
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  Speaker 1: I think it goes back to really to the fall,
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  Speaker 1: Like when our scouts and and Mike Davis and the
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  Speaker 1: college scouts are on the road, they go into Oklahoma,
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  Speaker 1: they really like the athlete. He's a really quick feet,
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  Speaker 1: he's a and he's a very efficient pass protector. I
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  Speaker 1: think his his pressure's allowed rate is is extremely low. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then mentally he's been great. At some point when
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  Speaker 1: one of our scouts was in there about middle of
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  Speaker 1: the season, he'd he'd made one mental air uh for
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  Speaker 1: the season. So he's a reliable guy. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be where he needs to be, and he's gonna a
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  Speaker 1: really efficient player. How important is it just on your
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  Speaker 1: side to get input from the positional coaches when it
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  Speaker 1: comes with things.
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  Speaker 4: Like that have bills there at Oklahoma's ProDance.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it's very important. You know, if you know, if
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  Speaker 1: scouting and personnel or apartment coaching and scouting aren't on
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  Speaker 1: the same page with a player, it's going to make
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  Speaker 1: it really hard for him to have success in any program.
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  Speaker 1: So uh and Phil has done a great job. Phill
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  Speaker 1: likes to get out his hands on guys. He's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the typical line coach, and so he he uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, he made a number of spots or a
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  Speaker 1: number of visits and and he really enjoyed it. And
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  Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know, he comes back with information
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  Speaker 1: that you know that that he uh you know, his specialty, right,
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  Speaker 1: so kind of the exact things that he's looking for,
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  Speaker 1: and when he finds it, he lets us know and
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  Speaker 1: we try and get those players.
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  Speaker 4: WI sold you guys on Benchell Miller, guy who wasn't
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  Speaker 4: able to do anything since December, since sorers. So what
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  Speaker 4: was kind of made that the over.
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  Speaker 3: The top there round?
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  Speaker 1: You know? Uh, I think when you when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the film when Vinrel's healthy, he's a really good
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  Speaker 1: football player.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He's very he's very instinctive, he's quick, he can run.
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  Speaker 1: And then additionally off the field and in the locker
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  Speaker 1: room there at Florida he's been a multiple year captain.
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  Speaker 1: He's a he's a fantastic kid. He has the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the DNA right that we're looking for in the locker room.
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  Speaker 5: Strange said he had very limited if had all any contact.
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  Speaker 5: Have you ever drafted a player that had that limited
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  Speaker 5: of contact and how would you describe his contact throughout
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  Speaker 5: his h.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I have drafted players, uh you know
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  Speaker 1: with that amount of contact. I think actually it's probably
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  Speaker 1: pretty standard. I think we uh you know, we've had
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  Speaker 1: some really good connections at Penn State. Uh you know
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  Speaker 1: that have coached him hands on coaching him that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of our information came from them, you know, outside
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  Speaker 1: of the normal school visits that you do in the fall.
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  Speaker 1: So I think, uh, you know, we felt really good
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  Speaker 1: about the player, about the person, and about what he
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  Speaker 1: could do for us. You know, I think I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we really had any questions at that point.
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  Speaker 5: How much did the scouts visit Penn State? Maybe he
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  Speaker 5: didn't realize what.
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  Speaker 1: They were there. Well, yeah, exactly. So Penn State obviously
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  Speaker 1: one of the you know, the more prominent schools in
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  Speaker 1: the country. So we'll have, h we'll have really three
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  Speaker 1: scouts visit multiple times. We'll probably get up to like
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  Speaker 1: six times that were there, and then you know, if
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  Speaker 1: they are playing in another area, uh you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: have you know, additional people watching them as well.
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  Speaker 4: When you got to undrafted free agency.
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  Speaker 5: Would you like.
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  Speaker 1: About the Quorn Jackson Dawan Jackson's that's an interesting case
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  Speaker 1: of kind of how the scouting process works. So uh
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  Speaker 1: he he uh, you know, a little bit undersized, right,
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  Speaker 1: So he's not a guy that that stands out in
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  Speaker 1: the in the fall during the season, but he tested
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  Speaker 1: pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: We go back and review guys after they test, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, found out that like, hey, this guy's a
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  Speaker 1: really instinctive, savvy player and he's a really good tackler,
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  Speaker 1: high percentage tackler. I think he's over ninety percent for
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  Speaker 1: his for his career.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Then we get him here as a local workout guy.
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  Speaker 1: He does a nice job in front of in front
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  Speaker 1: of the coaches there and really kind of he earned
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  Speaker 1: his contract, you know with what he's done on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and then every step of the way after that. With Abdullah,
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  Speaker 1: what did you guys sort of seeing him obviously a
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  Speaker 1: smaller edged type of player.
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  Speaker 2: But what do you see on tape?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think he's uh, I don't know, i'd
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  Speaker 1: say small, I'd say short, you know, so he's he
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  Speaker 1: is short, but long armed, he's got a he's kind
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  Speaker 1: of a wide frame guy. And when you see him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just watching him check in yesterday, he he
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  Speaker 1: does have some some thickness doing him, some power on him.
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  Speaker 1: He is a little bit different though than you know,
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  Speaker 1: the tray Von's and the Josh Allens of the world,
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  Speaker 1: just in terms of overall size. He's very very fast,
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  Speaker 1: time speeds, excellent, get off his excellent, very instinctive. And
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  Speaker 1: he's a unique guy in the sense that I believe
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  Speaker 1: he's twenty five sacks for his career and twenty five
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  Speaker 1: special teams tackles for his career. So you don't you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to see that very often. Especially three four
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  Speaker 1: outside linebackers usually aren't in a role on special teams
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  Speaker 1: when he has that chance. Is there a bigger learning curve?
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  Speaker 2: I guess because he is a little shorter, I mean
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  Speaker 2: just in terms of getting uc the.
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  Speaker 1: NFL, you know what, I think there's probably he's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna rush a lot of the same way, but it's
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  Speaker 1: really more of a learning curve for the tackles that
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  Speaker 1: have to block him. Right, So those guys that come
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  Speaker 1: off with speed and are a little bit lower give
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  Speaker 1: those tall tackles trouble. So I think in his case,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of times it'll be an advantage. I hear
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  Speaker 1: a guy like your their position change.
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  Speaker 2: There's not a lot of fullbacks in the league.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so that's a tough one. You know what
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  Speaker 1: we do and this kind of goes back. I think
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago we had a player named Bruce
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  Speaker 1: Miller from Central Florida that led the nation in sacks
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  Speaker 1: and we converted him to full back and ended up
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  Speaker 1: being a pretty solid player. As long as they have instincts,
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  Speaker 1: as long as they can run, they're good with kind tact.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a role for a guy
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He's you know, he's a was a pretty successful addresser
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  Speaker 1: there again, you know, being a smaller guy but very fast,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I think the you know, we do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things on offense, uh, formationally, we present
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people problems, and having having a fullback, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think allows us to do even more
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  Speaker 1: of that, kind of give more two back cloaks. So
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  Speaker 1: he's a guy that we want to try. And quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: there aren't many fullbacks in college football. You know that
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of a dinosaur. So do you see any
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  Speaker 1: similarities to Bruce Moller in him on the field, they're
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  Speaker 1: both they're both savvy and high effort. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely, you're able to say how many of the thirteen
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  Speaker 5: draft picks did you actually get to.
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  Speaker 4: Watch in college?
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  Speaker 1: Like, did you actually get to visit with uh? Visited
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  Speaker 1: with him? Quite a few? Watched all of them, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: not watched in person in the fall, all of them.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, but yeah, we spent a lot of time.
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  Speaker 1: We've kind of been locked in that room since the
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  Speaker 1: day we got back from Indianapolis and have gone come
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  Speaker 1: through everybody. So it's a it was a pretty thorough process.
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  Speaker 5: Well, curious if there's any of them that maybe, like you,
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  Speaker 5: I know you will alluded to Anton, you guys have
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  Speaker 5: had contact with so early in the process, if there
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  Speaker 5: was one that you just happened to watch so much
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  Speaker 5: and then obviously you guys end up selecting them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think the kind of the some of
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  Speaker 1: the guys that the leader into the draft, the Parish
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  Speaker 1: of Ohasik, some of those guys were kind of guys
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  Speaker 1: that elevated themselves either through the testing process or through
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  Speaker 1: through tape later as as we got to them. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, they they proved themselves worthy.
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  Speaker 2: What was your assessment in BHAs because Trent seemed to
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  Speaker 2: be really high on it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and as you guys know Trent, Trent loves the
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  Speaker 1: D line and that's kind of his uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his his specialty. But he's again a guy that came up,
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  Speaker 1: came up late and watched him, and he's a he's
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  Speaker 1: kind of the throwback. He's the blue collar interior defensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman that has all of those all of those qualities
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  Speaker 1: and he's a you know, he's a unique, unique case
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  Speaker 1: in that he's a he was a junior college player,
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  Speaker 1: so he wasn't really highly recruited out of high school.
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  Speaker 1: Uh in North Carolina is not taking very many junior
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  Speaker 1: college players, right, and he ended up there and uh
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  Speaker 1: and a heck of a career. And what what we
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  Speaker 1: hear is we heard a lot of good things about
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  Speaker 1: him from the school from North Carolina. But then when
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  Speaker 1: you talk to the schools they play, that's always somebody
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  Speaker 1: that they bring up like, hey, take you know, take
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  Speaker 1: a look at this guy. You gave his problems and
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  Speaker 1: uh and ended up proven.
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  Speaker 4: Right back to the pull back for quick, he hasn't
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  Speaker 4: played a ton of pull that right, correct, So how
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  Speaker 4: do you find out I assume and pull back in
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  Speaker 4: your offense.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna want him to catch the well, be able
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  Speaker 2: to catch the ball, and.
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  Speaker 4: The ideal how do you find out whether this guy
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  Speaker 4: can catch the ball?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the Pro day, you know, take him off
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  Speaker 1: to the side and play catch with them, or you
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  Speaker 1: know kind of uh, you know, see see whatever information
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  Speaker 1: you can find on a player. How important was the
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  Speaker 1: All Star circuit?
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  Speaker 2: Start with these dating guys, I know a couple of them,
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  Speaker 2: worst of shriving guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so the All Star Game circuit is uh, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the tougher evaluations ever because people come
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  Speaker 1: in in so many different stages. Right, So if you're
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  Speaker 1: you know, playing in the National Championship game, you're at
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  Speaker 1: the peak of your season and you jump right into
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  Speaker 1: a into an All Star game where some guy might
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  Speaker 1: have been, you know it played in the last game
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  Speaker 1: in Thanksgiving. So everybody's at kind of at different stages.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has been probably training for the combine and then
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  Speaker 1: back to football. So it's great. Probably the best thing
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  Speaker 1: that we get out of it is the chance to
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  Speaker 1: sit down and talk with him face to face and
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  Speaker 1: kind of make that establish that contact and you know,
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  Speaker 1: make a connection and see if he's the type of
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  Speaker 1: guy that.
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  Speaker 2: We want here the crowded running back room.
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  Speaker 5: But let does Tank bring to the table. What'd you
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  Speaker 5: like about his career?
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  Speaker 1: So love Tank, love what he brings, you know, as
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  Speaker 1: a as a kind of well rounded running back. So
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  Speaker 1: when you look at uh, you just throw the throw
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  Speaker 1: the stats out. Top five fastest running backs in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: top five heaviest running backs in the draft, top five
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  Speaker 1: yards after contact in the draft. So he's a He's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that plays physical, he plays aggressive, He's gonna
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  Speaker 1: finish runs. He's gonna finish runs going forward.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then despite that physicality, he's still pretty effective in
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  Speaker 1: the passing game. So I think that gives us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: another guy.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think in this day and age, leaning
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  Speaker 1: on one running backs pretty hard. So the more you
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  Speaker 1: have in that room, the better.
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  Speaker 2: A final ross response, does money come in? I mean
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  Speaker 2: you look at final contracts years like Thomas and Claybrooks
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  Speaker 2: and Shack Quaterman, very little dead money, but if you
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  Speaker 2: let go of them, you bring back about a million apiece.
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  Speaker 2: How do you weigh that compared to two rookies or
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  Speaker 2: un drafted rookies who may cost half does that come
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  Speaker 2: in to play?
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  Speaker 1: So I think, without without getting into those specific guys, basically,
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  Speaker 1: every time you're looking at a player or potentially making
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  Speaker 1: a move, it's how does it affect, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: team and the on field product, How does it affect
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  Speaker 1: the locker room? And then how does it affect the
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  Speaker 1: salary cap? And so all of those three things kind
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  Speaker 1: of have to align with what we're trying to do
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  Speaker 1: in order to make that move.
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  Speaker 2: What's what's the best case scenario, like guys got three
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  Speaker 2: years of knowledge to be here again, or looking down
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  Speaker 2: the road about you know, financially, maybe you can say
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  Speaker 2: goodbye a couple of those players and go out and
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  Speaker 2: get another.
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  Speaker 1: Free agency Yeah again, I think I think it's all
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  Speaker 1: kind of on that individual case. You know, do we
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  Speaker 1: have do we have somebody in the wings that we see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, can can ascend past what we have if
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  Speaker 1: we do, that's great, Or Hey, what what's available in
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  Speaker 1: the draft, what's available in free agency? And just kind
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  Speaker 1: of kind of trying to put all of those pieces
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  Speaker 1: together and figure out what's best for us first first.
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  Speaker 4: Three draft picks and maybe even the pull that pullback
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  Speaker 4: will help you potentially help get a short yardage. When
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  Speaker 4: do you guys first have that conversation with the coaching
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  Speaker 4: staff or or internally in terms of this is an error.
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  Speaker 1: We need to go and keep that around, gotcha? Well,
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  Speaker 1: constantly throughout the year, you know, as as the season progresses,
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  Speaker 1: how can we tweak the roster to get it better?
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: And then really a big time is immediately after the season.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: You know, let's sit down, let's see what the contract
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: situation is. Let's see, you know, what we were good at,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: what we weren't good at, you know, how can we improve?
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: And the coaches kind of they you know, they evaluate
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: the players. We evalue evaluate the players, what are their
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: potential roles, you know, and what they see their needs are.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: And then we try and try and go through and
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: fill as many as we can.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: Where was that on a list of needs? Getting better
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: in short?
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I think I think getting better in the in
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: the run game overall is you know, in past past
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: game overall. I mean that's schematically again, that's more Doug,
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: but hey, that's something that anytime we can get them
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: a weapon that diversifies their offense or defense, it's good
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: for us.
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: What was just like for you, it was I believe
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: he came in last July.
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: Or you were here.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: I came maybe like roughly now, I don't I don't
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: remember if I was here for a regumnty camp, but
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: it was, uh, you know, it's a different, different building, right,
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: So it's different than what I've used to for the
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: last eighteen years. But it was a great experience in
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: terms of how everybody comes together, you know, it does.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: This isn't just scouting, it's not just coaching. You know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Fergie and the medical team did you know, physicals or
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: medical work ups on you know, probably five hundred players,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: you know, they do that. Marcus Pollard and those his
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: group help us with interviews, help us kind of find
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: out about the person, right, uh, you know, travel, flying
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: guys in and out, analytics, helping us with you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: with finding kind of relevan a data and how we
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: should use it. All of that stuff is was really
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: good and it kind of came together very very seamlessly,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: so very very proud of how that process worked.
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: Different than San Francisco with dogs in movements.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe perhaps to other coaches or no, I think Doug
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Doug and the coaching staff are are great to work
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: work with. It couldn't couldn't be easy. Yeah, you know, no,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest. From from my perspective, Uh, you know, again,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: working with any coaching staff I've had, it's been has
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: been relatively easy. You know. It's just making sure that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: we that we get on the same page and and uh,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you know, if it's a player we both like, let's
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: get them, you know, and if they are concerns on
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: either side, maybe we need to hit the brakes and
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: look at somebody else. So all right, thank you, are
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: you guys?
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: There's lunch in the TV studios.