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Is It Time for Pastors to Run for Office? | The Mark Driscoll Show | Ep 28 · The Mark Driscoll Show

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All right, well, welcome to the Mark Driscoll Show.
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I am Landon Chase, and today Pastor Mark Driscoll is joined
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by Pastor Josh McPherson from Washington State, and Josh is
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preparing for Freedom Con Rise of the Statesman, a massive
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Father's Day weekend gathering at the Gorge for Christian men,
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dads, sons, pastors and leaders. Today we're talking about strong
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men, spiritual warfare, repentance, and what it means to
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fight for your family, your state.
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Pastor Mark, I'll bring you into these questions right alongside
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Josh. So it's going to be a good time.
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You're actually from Washington State, for those of you that
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don't know. Yeah, I did a tour of duty there
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for a bit a lifetime ago, yeah, and have since moved to America
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and live in Arizona. Not praise God.
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Yeah, praise God, I'm gonna be married to your daughter if you
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hadn't. Moved.
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No, and we wouldn't have my grandson, so we all won on this.
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Yeah, So Pastor Josh, tell us about Freedom Con, Rise of the
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Statesman. Why is this burden been put on
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your heart and why is it so important at this moment in
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history? First of all, thanks for having
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me on guys. Love you Landon.
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Love you Pastor Mark. Honored to be with you guys.
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Always fun. We've been doing this.
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We call it the Stronger man conference.
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Every year thousand men rally. We have 1015 hundred guys show
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up at our church. When you been before we started
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six years ago. First one was battle ready as
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men want to be battle ready. Second one was forged.
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Men are forged, not just born. Third was into the breach.
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Men going to the breach defensively and offensively as
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attacking the the gates of hell. The fourth was kill Dragons
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because that's the primary job that every man wakes up in the
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morning. And the last one was the
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brotherhood. That was that was the last five
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years. And last year, as we thought
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about this year in particular, we were looking ahead.
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It's the Super Centennial, as we're calling it, the 250
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anniversary of our nation. We want to do something special.
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We called it freedom and kind of tucked it away.
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Well, then in September, of course, Charlie was murdered
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wearing the freedom shirt. And all of us just kind of woke
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up to the reality of the of faith under fire and attack in
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our nation, both ideologically, politically, and and violently.
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And God just began growing this in her heart.
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It it we need to. Gather the men not at an event,
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not even even at a conference, but a Congress.
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We've been using the language Congress.
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And so we're calling it Rise of the Statesman, a Congress of
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Christian men, because it was a Congress of Christian men that
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founded this nation 250 years ago.
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And we believe it's going to be a Congress of Christian men that
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will preserve this nation and, and save it.
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And I was telling Pastor Mark a couple a couple weeks ago, we
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are praying about it because let's be honest, the timeline is
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short. We should not be trying to do
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this with the timeline we have, which makes it kind of fun.
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And and we thought, you know, maybe we can't get the word out
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in time, but if we can, what if a giant massive historic sized
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Congress or Christian man showed up at this conference to talk
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about the noble role of statesman because it was the
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statesman, the founder of this nation and it'll be statesman
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that preserve it. And for us, of course, the
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historical significance of being on our tour with anniversary.
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But I was telling Pastor Mark, if in 100 years from now, our
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nation is still here as a Christian nation, which is a
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huge if. And she may not be taken for
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granted because that is not the given scenario.
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Most nations devolve. Most nations implode.
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I think the national or the national, the historical rate of
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constitutional republics is about like 11-12, thirteen
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years. That's how long they make it.
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Ours is made at 250. If we're to make it 100, another
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100 years, it'll be because of a massive work of God's grace and
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a revival in the hearts of the men that worked itself out in
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Reformation in the public square.
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And if that happens, and if our nation is here in 100 years, I'm
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praying that they won't be able to tell the story of our nation
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without telling the story of this weekend.
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A historic gathered of men who resolved to be statesman, who
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resolved to take responsibility to leave it better than they
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found it. And that is not the trajectory
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that we are currently on. And for for me as a man, Landon,
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it just, it just begins to increasingly irk me that the
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America I was born into would be categorically worse than the
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America I left when I die. And that in that time I, I grew
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up, I married, I had kids, and then I left them something worse
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than I was handed when I was born.
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And so for me, it just became a sense of burden and
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responsibility as a man. Like the first lesson my dad
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taught me as a boy growing up, you leave the better than you
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found it. And my mom applied it to my
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bedroom. And then my dad applied it to
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the his car that I borrowed and his guns that I would borrow to
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take hunting and his tools that I would borrow to build things.
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And if I return what he gave me and entrusted to me in worse
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condition, there was discipline. Because the first lesson
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MacPherson household was we leave things better than we
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found it. And for us, it feels like this
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nation is a sacred trust that we've been entrusted to steward.
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And if we don't do everything we can to leave it better than we
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found it, we haven't been faithful with it.
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And good men took risk and and and sacrifice and bled to give
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us something noble and beautiful and really unlike anything else
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we've experienced in history. This is an experiment in freedom
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at the democratic, public, civil magistrates level that we've
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never seen in history before. And if we lose it, it'll be very
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hard to get back. And so that's the bit of the
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burden behind. And I, frankly, quite frankly, I
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think that there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of
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men who feel the same. They love our nation.
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They recognize the sacrifice it took to build this, and they're
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unwilling to lose it. The question often becomes,
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well, what do I do? And So what I've been saying,
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Landon, is I want Freedom Conference to give men hope, but
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hope isn't a strategy, right? And so we're going to give men
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hope by giving men a strategy, because although hope isn't a
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strategy, strategy imparts hope. And so we want to invite men to
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this place. And I've gathered the best men I
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know, the greatest, the most biblical, the most godly
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statesman and theologians and authors and veterans and
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politicians and leaders that I know to speak into this event
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that I hope will be like kind of like the decisive clinic on
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statesmanship to equipment to know what to do, how to do, when
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to do it. I was on the phone with Nick
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Freitas a few days ago and he was saying one of his
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frustrations is he regularly gets complained to in his office
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as as a representative there in Virginia, I think it's Virginia
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House Representatives, Virginia. Is that right?
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He say he regularly gets complaints about things he can't
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do anything about because people don't understand simple civics.
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And the point he made was this, you can't claim to love
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something you don't know anything about.
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And so he has hard just to educate men as to our
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constitutional Republic and not only the rights and freedoms,
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but responsibilities and privileges that we have as
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citizens. And so helping Christians
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understand that being a good citizen, I believe is an
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expression of being a good Christian and how we love our
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neighbor as ourself. And so, yeah, I, I, I got AI got
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a huge heart for it. Big dreams, big aspirations, big
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hopes and prayers that God would use this in the hearts of
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fathers and sons. First of all, to draw them
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closer to Jesus. Because without that, we got
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nowhere to go and nothing to offer to draw fathers hearts to
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their sons and sons of their fathers.
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I want to see men get saved, men get closer to Jesus.
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And then I want to see men get a holy, the ambition for their
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life because you have nothing to offer as a statement to your
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nation if you haven't first done something in your nation like
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get married, start a family, build a business, help a church,
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get strong, grow a home that thrives.
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So yeah, man, we're going to hit all the men across all of the
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spectrums and seasons of life from every state.
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We've only had a registration open a few days.
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We've got over 1000 men already signed up in just a few days, 21
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States and it's picking up momentum and we think it's going
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to be a party. It's a real, real practically.
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So it's it's a men's Congress. You're going to have worship,
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you're going to have teaching. It's going to be also a great
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connecting time for fathers and sons.
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And it's Father's Day weekend. And so the timing is really
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incredible. The location for those who are
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not up to speed is the Gorge Historic Outdoor Concert Venue
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on the Columbia River. I mean, documentaries have been
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written about it. It is.
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It is the outdoor Amphitheatre of the nation.
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And the name of the town that the event is in is George.
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The state that it's in is Washington.
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So for Father's Day weekend, the 250th anniversary birthday of
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the nation, you're calling a Christian men's Congress to
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George Washington. Let's go.
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Here's the crazy thing about that is I, I got a pastor on my
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on my staff who looked this up. He goes bro 200 and 15251 years
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ago, George Washington signed his Commission papers to become
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the general of the Continental Army.
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He did it on June 19th, 1775 and it put him in charge of 15,000
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men. And with those 15,000 men, he
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pushed back the British tyranny. And one for US, freedom to birth
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the nation 251 years to the day mark.
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We're going to gather on June 19th to kick off Father's Day
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weekend with not a Continental Army, a Kingdom army.
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And we're praying for another 15,000 men.
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And those 15,000 men aren't going to burn the nation.
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They're going to save a nation. And we're going to do it in an
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amphitheater built in the town called George Washington.
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If that's not destiny, bro, I don't know what is.
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I mean, let's go. Well, Pastor Mark, Pastor Mark,
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you don't say it's been a couple years since you've been in a
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men's conference. Yeah, and it's not because I'm
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turning down all my requests. It's not like I am so wanted
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that I have to decline. I'll be honest, I don't get to
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leave home much and I don't get requests to go anywhere.
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He's he's underselling himself. We do get requests, but why is
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this men's conference? Why do you feel like it's
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important to fly up to? It's not easy to get there for
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you, it's necessarily convenient, but why is this so
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important for you to join and be part of this?
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Well, Josh is a very dear friend of 15 years and a brother and if
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he feels called to do something that I want to go help and
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support and I want to bring as many men with me as I can and as
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much resources as I can. And so for me, what he is trying
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to do is tragically, desperately needed.
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And I believe that the window of opportunity is actually closing.
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And once this administration is over, if, if things don't go the
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right direction, then this is a this is a window of opportunity
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that we must strategically avail ourselves to.
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And I think the 250th anniversary of the nation, we
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had founding fathers. And what we need now is we need
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fathers and and we're missing, we're missing men who think and
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act like fathers with generational legacy and and
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greater good, you know, in heart and in mind.
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And so, but the maybe tell them a little bit about you got a
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pretty incredible lineup. I mean, you got other than me.
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It looks very impressive, you know.
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Oh, I I, I can't confirm. We have yet to book any any pole
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dancers so. Do my only request after my
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session, not before, after. That's my You're OK?
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With it, just put them after your session.
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Like marks on the plane, Now's go time.
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Bring that guy in from the bullpen.
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Yeah, Well, honestly, when I started thinking about this
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event, we wanted to reach out, of course, all the men in the
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nation. I had a sense that guys want to
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do something significant like I did.
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Like I want to celebrate our country.
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And to your point where we know we got games, competition stuff
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for the boys, stronger boy way challenges.
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We're going to have side stage events.
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We have live podcast events, recorded a lot of really
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incredible voices nationally. They're going to be very
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available locally. And so I start going down my
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list of friends and you know, Mark and I talked about this,
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it's like I just started reaching out to my buddy.
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So John Lovell, who leads Warrior plus society, he's the
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best. He's he's just the best.
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He's he's a theologian, he's a husband, he's a father, he's a
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loving father. He's a remarkable husband.
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He's a preacher, he's a, a philosopher, he's soldier.
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What's that? And he's a soldier.
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And he's a veteran. He's faithfully served as as
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country as kind of a door kicking meat eater or in the
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sandbox. And then, you know, does the gun
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training thing and warrior plus society thing and he's funny,
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he's intelligent. He's kind of a he's he's been
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out here for our bector West University class teaching
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apologetics. He's just incredibly sharp.
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He's coming. I love that man.
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And whenever he talks, I listen because he's got a heart for the
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Kingdom. He's got a mind for the word and
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he's got an eye to the culture. And I think one of things that
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marks all the men coming, Pastor Mark, is there men who
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understand the times and, and, and that that that passage,
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pastors like to quote it, you know, in first Chronicles there
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that, you know, we got to be men of Issachar who understood the
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times, but they they missed the second part.
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And they knew what to do. Yeah, but, but, but, but even
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more than that, they were, they were, they understood the times
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and they knew what Israel should do.
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They they were statesman. Yeah.
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The the, the, the knowledge and wisdom that God gave them and
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the discernment that they possessed was direct, was
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applied directly to their nation.
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They knew what their nation should do, and so all the men
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coming are are men Who else who? Else going to be there.
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Yeah, so, so John Lovell's coming.
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Eric Metaxas, best selling authors coming.
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He's got a new book releasing this summer to honor our 250
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anniversary on the Revolution. We're going to be giving out a
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bunch of free copies of that. So John Lovell, Eric Metaxas,
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Graham Allen of Hey America, love that guy.
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Tim Barton, Dave Barton, They are historians in their own
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right. Pastor Ryan Visconi from
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Generations Church in Arizona. He's a good, good man.
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Josh Howerton from Lake Point Church in the the wildest
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successful Live free podcast. Josh is going to be there.
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Russell Johnson, the fire of Iowa preacher.
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From what he says, he looks like Antifa preaches, like Spurgeon.
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He's over there in Seattle. Nick Freitas is going to try to
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join us. He's got a conflicting event.
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If you don't join us, he'll be there with a video.
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Of course, Adam James will be there myself.
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Nate Schatzline, who is a state representative in Texas, if
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you've had, if you've heard of any legislation that's come out
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of Texas in the last six years that you cheered for, he was
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probably the behind the sponsoring it or a huge part of
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its success. Who else?
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I think I'm missing something. What about on the worship music
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side? What are you looking at?
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So we've got David Crowder coming, which is wild.
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Like David Crowder kicked off my my love for worship music when I
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was in college. He's coming back to he's still
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got the grunge country vibe going.
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He's going to be there. Danny Gokey is coming.
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And then we're trying to get let's use this, let's use this
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podcast to recruit him. What's the thing that guy that
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he said we should? Get you want Steven Mcwhorter.
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Dude, that guy is a dude. I watched it.
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I watched my first video of him last night.
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That guy can sing. Yeah, he's, yeah, he's he's an
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enjoyable guy. So if you see this, please get
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yourself, Sir, a plane ticket and find a place called George
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in the state called Washington around Father's Day.
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We would. Love to have you there I'm I'm
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called the speaker list to make sure I didn't miss anybody
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because that's. A remarkable list.
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You got the Bartons. You got first and second Barton.
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Yeah. I got Josh Howerton, Eric
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Metaxas, John Lovell, Adam James, Graham Allen, Russell
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Johnson, Nick Freitas, Mark Driscoll, Ryan Visconi, Tim
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Barton, Dave Barton, Nate Chadstein and Chad Robuchaw.
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Oh yeah, bro, that's that's a lineup of dudes that that might
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be the greatest lineup in the history of men's conference.
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Everyone that everyone's guys is a main state speaker anywhere
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they go, and they're all going to be there.
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And the cool thing is we're all buddies, we're all friends,
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we're all brothers. Bring their wives, bringing
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their kids, hanging out as families, just making good
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battle together, celebrating manhood and masculinity,
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celebrating statesmanship, celebrating our nation.
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It's going to be a party, man. Awesome.
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Awesome. Josh, you keep throwing the word
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statesman out there. You want to explain that a
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little more for the average blue collar guy?
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That's like, OK, I like that term.
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I've heard it, but what does it mean?
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What does it mean for the typical?
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Dude, that's a that's a big word for a homeschool kid.
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So I just wanted to, I just want to give you a little shout out
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for the big word. I I looked it up and practice it
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five times before we came online just to get it right.
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States man ship. States man ship.
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Yeah. So honestly, I'll answer it
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briefly, but that's kind of the conference is for like come to
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the conference, we're going to answer it.
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We may even make some live stream possibilities available
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if you can't fly out and you can't make it.
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But statesmanship, I think is the lost art of our day when it
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comes to roles that God has called men to step into in their
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masculinity. And so we when we think of men
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in their roles, we think protect the provider, leader, lover,
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which is good and right. That's kind of the, the, the,
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the, the, the, the quadrant that we work with a stronger nation.
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God calls us to be soldiers, farmers, athletes, sons,
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soldiers, farmers, athletes, sons, protectors, providers,
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leaders, lovers, and that means a good family man and a good
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church man and a good marketplace man.
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But this idea of statesman is, is someone who cares for the
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well-being of the broader community he's a part of in his
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nation and endeavors to make decisions sacrificially for the
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good of that nation, not just for the good of a political
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party. And so statesmanship is this
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noble idea that rises above politics.
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And again, I, I don't want to downplay politics because
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politics is just that, you know, the, the affairs of the city,
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right politica and, and, and so politics are the affairs of the
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city. But the word politics is just so
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laden with baggage and frustrations and partisan
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whatever and compromise this and that.
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Statesmanship is that noble role that God calls men to step into
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where they're sacrificially working for the good of a broad
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amount of people, bringing the knowledge they've gained over
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time and wisdom that they've gained from their experience as
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a husband, as a dad, as a businessman, to now wield that
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influence for the good of their nation.
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And I think it's a role that's missing.
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And and the church by and large, has it valued statesmanship and
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the pulpits have it taught a public theology for
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Christianity. And so my hope is this
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conference reclaims the nobility of statesmanship, both as a
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season of life endeavor that some men are in, but not walking
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out. And that's something for young
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men to to have ambition for, but to prepare for it now by being a
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noble man worthy of being a statesman later.
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It's awesome. Thank.
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Thank you, Josh for I think that's very helpful for the
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average guy to understand. So most of our audience.
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Just just not interrupted. I'm an average guy and and I'm a
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little behind the curve. I haven't been like thinking
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like this and saying this for the last 25 years.
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I'm 46 years old and it's been a necessity.
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I've got a 20 year old, a 19 year old, a 16 year old and a 13
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year old. One's married, the other one
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just moved out and they're trying to find jobs, buy a home,
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afford car insurance. And all of a sudden I'm
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realizing the politicians who are making real decisions
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legislatively in my state are making it so hard for the
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average person to thrive that unless you started 20 years ago,
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it's going to be hard to start anything now.
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And so for me, it's really coming out of my desire to be a
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good dad. I want a community and a state
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and a nation where my kids can be protected and they have
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opportunity to thrive. And so it's really stemming out
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of my desire to be a good dad. And so I'm just going to if guys
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out there they feel like behind or are they they're not in the
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end of the conversation or are they kind of shy away from
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politics? Hey, man, I'm with you.
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I that has not Barkley type list for 15 years.
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Politics isn't our thing. We love the Bible and Jesus and
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the church and our kids and our family, and that's where we want
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to live. Damn government that gets in the
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way. OK.
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And so you got to deal with politics in the same way.
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You know if there's a deer in the middle of the road, you know
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you may need to run it over to get home.
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There is one way to look at it. Yeah.
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So so the. The line, the line I've heard
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both you men say at different times, is you come from the
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future because of Washington state.
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If you live in the People's Republic of Washington, you have
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seen the future and it is not good.
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I want to talk about why should somebody come from out of state?
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So most of the people watching this right now are not from
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Washington State. Likely there's probably some of
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you out there. So thank you for tuning in
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Washington state, but you both come from the future because
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it's Washington State. It unpacked that a little bit.
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And why these men? So there so there are
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strategically places in the country where they are labs for
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progressive demonic ideology. And so Washington state is the
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lab rat for the United States of America.
21:54
Every stupid, you know, bad policy decision, every woke
22:00
tranny agenda, every socialistic, you know, cranial
22:04
rectal insertion attempt happens in a place like Washington,
22:11
right? And then they they, then they.
22:14
Home schooled. I took me a while to put the
22:16
work together. I I think I saw where you were
22:18
going there. They, they, they will, they will
22:21
feel tested in a place like Washington, knowing that it you
22:26
couldn't start in a place like Alabama where people are
22:29
heterosexual and armed and sober.
22:32
And so you've got to go to a place like Washington, and then
22:36
you field test the idea. And then once it's into the
22:39
system, then it works into Oregon and California.
22:43
And from there, you know, so Washington is in large part the
22:47
infection point. It is bright blue from head to
22:52
toe. It is far left.
22:54
It is progressive, and it is a generation ahead of the rest of
22:58
America and the West Coast. So if you are there, you are
23:03
seeing the future. We're talking about this
23:05
Washington state never makes the news.
23:07
And part of that I believe is absolutely a progressive media
23:11
cover up. So they get away with field
23:14
testing stupid ideas there. Now, usually by the time the
23:17
infection moves from Washington to California, that's when it
23:21
hits the news. But make no mistake, the
23:24
infection in California, it it started in Washington and then
23:29
it's spread through Oregon and California and then it moves its
23:32
way into the rest of the nation. So it's like having a a body
23:36
that you know is continued being poisoned with a drug injection.
23:40
Washington State is the injection site for America.
23:44
That's right. And that's exactly Mark.
23:46
We, we talked about a lot it, it feels like one of, if not these
23:50
strongholds of our nation. And what I tell guys is what
23:53
Mandami is doing in New York City has turned New York City
23:56
into a stronghold. But what he's been doing there
23:59
in that city for eight months, Washington has been doing at the
24:02
state level with state resources for 41 years.
24:05
We have the longest controlled Democrat legislative session and
24:11
executive branch of any state in the union ever, ever.
24:16
And So what what I've found is, is I'll hear about things going
24:20
on and you know, Maryland or, you know, Oregon, California,
24:26
these kind of crazy States and Daily Wire will pick it up or
24:30
Fox News or XYZ conservative. They're like, this is crazy.
24:34
And I'll chuckle and think to myself, we did that four years
24:36
ago. We did that six years ago.
24:39
This is the the testing site, the Black Ops testing site for
24:42
all the bad ideas. And so my invitation land into
24:47
men around the nation would be multiple fold. 1:00 grab your
24:51
son and and make a epic one once in a lifetime road trip with
24:56
your son or fly out on this historic anniversary to go to
24:59
something that's going to be a blast.
25:01
So if you need reason to come, come hear some of the best
25:04
voices in our nation calling men into the high country of noble
25:06
statesmanship. It's going to be epic like
25:08
mission accomplished. You combine the view with a
25:11
sunset show with David Crowder and the men we've got in the
25:14
lineup, it's a touchdown. With your son and buddies, it's
25:18
a touchdown. But on top of that, this is the
25:20
breach in the wall. And God calls us just to step
25:22
into the breach. And so come, step into this
25:24
breach. But more so than that, if you
25:26
had a red state, come and see what will happen if you stay out
25:29
of the game. Yeah, Landon, see what will
25:31
happen. Land in Seattle, drive downtown,
25:34
get out of your car, walk around, see the future, and then
25:38
make a commitment to be a man who stands against it.
25:43
That's right. We had a guy drive here from
25:45
Idaho last week for our strong men and he said he's in Idaho,
25:49
moved there because he couldn't stay in Washington anymore.
25:51
Which by the way, the last two governors of our state who who
25:54
were governors for the last combined with 24 years,
25:56
whatever, they've both moved to Idaho.
25:58
So I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to push for.
26:01
Legislation give somebody a venereal disease, you don't
26:04
marry them. I hadn't thought of it that way,
26:11
but that's, that's exactly right.
26:13
So, so yeah. So I'm trying to, I'm trying to
26:19
think about what that says about me here.
26:21
So those guys, those guys pass gas taxes with the UNI party,
26:27
compromised Republican Party as well, gas taxes, debt taxes,
26:31
income taxes, property taxes, capital gains taxes and then
26:35
move to idle where none of those things are and refuse to live
26:38
with them. And So what we found is these
26:41
guys in Idaho, that guy, he came to our church.
26:43
He said, hey, here's the deal in Idaho, red as it gets.
26:48
We had a bunch of boys in the girls bathroom and we went to
26:50
our City Council and they passed it by one vote to stand against
26:54
it. He said we came within one vote
26:56
of losing the protection of our girls.
26:57
And it woke him up. It woke up the realization that
27:01
these progress second progressives are like locust.
27:04
They destroy where they live. And then when there's nothing
27:06
else to destroy, they move and they take their voting record
27:09
with them because they have an inability to connect voting with
27:12
consequences. And so I'm telling you that
27:14
people devoted all these terrible ideas into policy in
27:17
the San Francisco and Seattle and LA.
27:20
They're moving to to Phoenix, they're moving to Dallas,
27:23
they're moving to Florida, and they're taking their voting
27:26
records with them. And if you're not careful,
27:28
they're going to destroy that place too.
27:29
So if you're in a red state, show up to see the future.
27:32
And here's the deal. I'm not asking to be angry.
27:35
I'm calling men to let me put it this way.
27:39
Men shouldn't live their life with the idiot light, you know,
27:42
drive your car until the idiot light comes on and your engine's
27:45
about to blow and pull it over. We should be stepping into the
27:48
role of statesmanship as a noble season of life endeavor that we
27:52
do whether the state's on fire or not, because we'll never not
27:55
need good men in positions of authority overseeing the
27:59
magistrates that that that oversee our, our children and
28:02
families. And so from RedState, come and
28:05
be inspired. If you're from a blue state,
28:06
honestly, come, we want to give you a playbook.
28:09
We're working on building the playbook to give churches and
28:11
Christian men how to get involved in a faithful way to
28:14
flip these states for the good of the families that live there.
28:17
So being a red state, come, be encouraged.
28:19
If you're in a blue state, come be encouraged and equipped with
28:22
a playbook. And we're going to get after,
28:23
we're going to have the time of our life. 1-2 It's just it's
28:27
good to get together with like minded men.
28:28
There's a lot of men who they're having a hard time finding a
28:31
church, they're having a hard time finding, finding the
28:34
community, and they're having a hard time finding their tribe.
28:37
And so getting together, it's an encouragement, it is a
28:41
brotherhood, it's a time together.
28:43
And to encourage someone is literally to pour courage into
28:47
them is what it means. And so for these guys to get
28:49
together with brothers who are like minded.
28:51
And I agree, bring your sons, bring your grandsons, work on
28:55
your generational legacy. It'll be a historic time for the
28:58
country. It'll be a momentous time for
29:00
you personally. The topography and the the
29:04
beauty of the place is unprecedented, unparalleled.
29:07
And and think and pray and then go home with a plan for in my
29:11
sphere of dominion and authority.
29:14
Father, what you know, what is my responsibility?
29:16
What do you want me to do because what you're talking
29:18
about as you're thinking, as I was thinking about, you're
29:20
talking about. So Jesus says pray like this,
29:22
thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in
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heaven. What does that look like
29:26
statesmanship. It says here's my country,
29:29
here's his Kingdom. I want to live between the two
29:32
that the culture of that Kingdom flows down into the place where
29:36
I reside. That statesmanship.
29:38
That's all statesmanship is. The Kingdom comes to the nation
29:42
so that Jesus prayer and the one he teaches us is answered.
29:48
That's exactly right. It's a holy calling.
29:51
It's a holy calling to be a part of the Great Commission bringing
29:54
heaven to earth. And I, I would tell dads, I
29:57
mean, Google the Gorge Amphitheater.
29:58
It's stunning. And then think about how to so I
30:02
would do this with my sons. I, I would pick an adventure
30:04
that had like an anchor event and then we would plan fun
30:07
events around it. So I'm like, Hey, Landon, bring
30:09
your boys up road trip up, hike the gorge on your way up.
30:12
Find a mountain you can climb or a river that you could wrap down
30:15
with your boy. Come a couple days early, stay a
30:18
couple days late if you can and plan some adventures with your
30:21
son. Then have some of your best
30:23
friends join you. Have your best friends sons come
30:25
with you. The wives can watch online and
30:27
be praying for you all along the way.
30:29
My wife is going to put out some resources for how to pray for
30:32
your husband, support him and how to walk with him when he
30:35
when he gets back. I just think it's going to be a
30:37
trouble time. Pastors, we're working on giving
30:40
some promo discounts for pastors.
30:42
Pastors are weary, pastors are tired.
30:44
And I think there are a lot of good pastors out there that
30:47
nobody knows and no one hears from because they don't have a
30:50
big platform and they are doing their best to hold the line and
30:54
they need to be encouraged. And Mark, I, I don't, we don't
30:56
know how many guys are going to come, right?
30:57
I mean, we're just getting started on this thing, getting
30:59
the word out. But I have, I have a sense in my
31:01
spirit, we're going to walk out. We're going to look across that
31:03
amphitheater and men are going to realize they're not alone
31:06
because one of the lies of the enemy is to isolate men to think
31:10
they're alone, they're by themselves.
31:11
There are more bad guys than there are good guys.
31:13
And there's no choice. There's no point in fighting
31:15
because you're going to lose. And I think God wants to use
31:17
this event is to put courage and hope in the heart of men and say
31:20
no, you're not alone. Jesus is with you.
31:22
The Spirit of God is in you and for you.
31:25
And God still has 7000 men who have not bowed the need of
31:29
Satan. I believe this gathering of a
31:32
Congress of Christian men is gathering the remnant, gathering
31:35
a remnant hearted kind of men. They want to be armor bearers.
31:39
They want to charge the hill. They want to leave a legacy in
31:43
leaving their nation better than they found it.
31:46
And I believe there are men all over the nation with that kind
31:48
of heart. And this event is going to
31:50
gather them in one place. I think it's going to be
31:52
powerful. We've been calling the real
31:54
faith audience up to that very thing of being the Remnant
31:57
because there's a whole generation, I feel like, like
32:00
the boomers and in large part where it's like, well, we're at
32:02
end times. It's it's all let's grab our
32:04
popcorn. Let's sit back and let's just
32:06
see what happens. Let's cheer on the war in the
32:09
Middle East. And hopefully Jesus comes back
32:11
very soon. And they don't do anything.
32:13
And I'm having kids and I'm like, Oh my gosh, I want to
32:16
leave a life for them. I want to let them be able to
32:19
buy a house and get married and have kids and go to church and
32:23
have the life I've been blessed with.
32:25
And it, it's terrifying right now as a young man looking out
32:29
at the world and seeing where we're headed.
32:31
It, it, there's not a lot of courage or hope.
32:33
And I hear you saying that's what this is.
32:36
Oh, what, what we're going to have breakout sessions for
32:38
businessmen, breakout sessions for generational businessmen,
32:43
breakout sessions for pastors, breakout sessions for fathers
32:45
and sons. Because you know, I, I agree
32:48
statistically, there are a lot of very, very kind of self
32:51
oriented boomers. And there are some guys out
32:54
there that have built wealth and are looking for a place to pour
32:57
it, looking for a, for a place to invest it.
32:59
And I'm telling you, if that's in your heart, anywhere you want
33:02
to be here, because those guys are looking for things to build.
33:05
We're going to talk about Vector West University or building.
33:07
It's a university to raise up generals to lead Christian to
33:10
save the West. There's going to be
33:12
opportunities to sow your wealth and sow your resources and sow
33:15
your wisdom into generational institutions that we're
33:18
endeavoring to build. I know you know real faith.
33:21
You guys are maybe have a little side gathering.
33:23
I don't want to speak out of turn here, but you know, you're
33:25
going to have a bunch of real faith guys gather up, hang out.
33:28
It's just going to be good men hanging out with good men,
33:30
enjoying being together and and stirring one another up to love
33:34
and goods deeds, starting by loving Jesus, starting by
33:37
leading your home, loving your wife, leading your kids,
33:39
strengthen your church and then looking to your community and
33:41
go, how can I lead in a way that makes everything around me
33:45
better? I just think it's going to be an
33:47
awesome, awesome time. I love it.
33:49
Pastor Mark, you, you're inviting your men's group from
33:53
your local church. To join.
33:54
Yeah. Real men pastors, yeah, yeah.
33:57
And I would say as well, yes. And so we would invite the men
34:01
from Attorney Church. I would invite the men who watch
34:03
Real Men online. And, and I would say as well, if
34:08
you really do love your pastor, send them.
34:13
Totally. Like buy a ticket, you know, buy
34:15
a flight, give a Father's Day gift to the, you know, the
34:20
spiritual father in the church house and send your pastor.
34:24
And if he's got sons, send his sons and say, you know what
34:27
we're sending you as a gift. Go make a memory with you.
34:29
Roy, thank you for serving us. We're giving you an opportunity
34:32
to get encouraged, to get with good men, to get with fellow
34:34
pastors, to make a memory with your son.
34:37
And then, men, send your pastor and go with him.
34:44
I have this picture so the Gorge won't let us put pictures of of
34:49
of the gorge up on the website for contractual reasons.
34:52
Whatever, we don't care. But, and so it's hard and what
34:54
we can't show guys, but just go Google the Gorge Amphitheatre so
34:57
you can see it on their terms. So this is this is this is mind
35:02
melting. So there's photos all over the
35:04
Internet of the gorge that everyone has posted.
35:07
But if you post a photo of the gorge on the Internet, you're
35:10
breaking a contract. I don't we sat down with the
35:14
representative Live Nation. They've been great, wonderful.
35:16
And and it's like executive attorneys.
35:19
You can't put pictures of the gorge on your website.
35:22
I'm like, yeah, but there's pictures of the gorge on
35:25
websites everywhere. Some sort of, I don't even get
35:28
it. I, I, I, I listen to ask
35:30
questions. So we, we can't put pictures.
35:31
So go Google the Gorge Amphitheater.
35:33
Josh, you are so much nicer. You are so much nicer than we
35:36
would be. Yeah, if this was our, if this
35:39
was our event, I would AIA photo of the gorge and then I would
35:42
put on not an actual photo of the gorge.
35:45
There you go. And then I would post it
35:47
everywhere. Yeah, I would do that.
35:52
You guys are very, I love it, very, very creative.
35:55
But but I have a vision of like guys showing up in church vans
36:00
because like guys kind of like an adventure.
36:03
And I got thinking. Do churches still like a bitch?
36:07
What's that do churches? Still have vans.
36:10
Yeah, I see them all the time. Every Baptist Church has vans.
36:12
That's all they spend their money on.
36:14
They didn't say Baptist Church. I just, I know all the I'm
36:18
telling you, churches had vans and the Baptist got all of those
36:23
vans. The Baptists are the only ones
36:25
that have the vans. I'm just telling you they're.
36:26
Still there, man, Let's go. They're they're still there.
36:29
But what was I saying? I was going to say something.
36:31
Really. How much of the?
36:32
Vans are rolling in. You have AI mean you need.
36:35
All the vans are rolling in. In this prophetic vision, you're
36:40
seeing innumerable church vans. That's where you rock.
36:44
Yeah. Oh, I know what it was.
36:47
I don't hear it. Dude what's that Burning Man
36:52
huh? Go with me.
36:55
It just pops up in the middle of the desert.
36:57
Like no planning. People show up their friends.
37:00
Days. And days and days out.
37:01
There. Everybody's naked, gets herpes
37:04
and goes to hell. You do not.
37:05
You do not want to use that as you're an L.
37:07
Pastor Mark went to that conference in Missouri and then
37:10
shut. Down There's not enough hand
37:12
sanitizer to survive burning men.
37:14
You don't. You don't need that as your
37:15
illustration. You got to let me finish.
37:18
You got to let me finish it. It it if the beta horny drug
37:23
users can go out and figure out how to find Burning Man, you can
37:27
find the Gorge Amphitheater as a sober Christian man.
37:31
Love it. Now, did that land?
37:33
It landed. And with that, I'm going to wrap
37:37
this sucker up. Men, don't sit this one out.
37:40
Bring your son, bring your friends and meet us at the Gorge
37:43
June 19th, 20th, Father's Day weekend.
37:46
It is going to be a historic event.
37:48
We are all going to bring there. We're going to bring the Real
37:50
Faith team. We're going to potentially
37:52
partner with Stronger Man Nation and do an awesome digital
37:54
experience too. Separately, we're going to talk
37:56
about that later, but go to Freedom con26.com.
38:01
We'll drop that right below. We'll put in the comments.
38:03
You want to register and you want to register early because
38:05
this thing is going to sell out prophetically.
38:08
You're welcome, Pastor Josh. And if you were going to go to
38:11
Burning Man, don't go to Burning Man.
38:14
Go to this event. This is a much better event.
38:18
Yes, I agree. Well said.
38:21
Pastor Josh, you were closest in prayer.
38:24
Father in Heaven, we're grateful for your Holy Spirit, we're
38:28
grateful for brotherhood. We're grateful for what you're
38:31
doing in our nation. We're grateful for 250 reasons
38:34
to celebrate your grace to us in the years you've given us as a
38:38
nation. Father, we pray that the men of
38:39
this time would know what time it is.
38:42
But that spirit of Issachar like discernment to know what Israel
38:45
should do, to know what America should do in this time.
38:48
Or I pray for every man listening.
38:49
You would put a burden in their heart to be the kind of man that
38:52
stands for Christ, that stands for the things you say are good
38:56
and stands against the things that you say are not good.
38:58
Lord, we pray you'd get every man there you want and for all
39:01
the speakers coming and family and kids and sons and travel.
39:04
Would your traveling mercies be on this men to gather your
39:06
Congress of Christian men to celebrate manhood, masculinity
39:10
and the inheritance of freedom that you've given us both as a
39:13
gift and as a responsibility to steward we ask for in Jesus
39:17
name, Amen. Amen.
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I love you guys. Thank you so much, love.
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You too, Robin. See you soon.