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Joe Tacopina | Defense Attorney & Army Man Joe Tacopina Breaks Down Our Conflict with Iran · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: I was great buddies with Joe Takapina at Poly Prep.
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  Speaker 1: Then I didn't see him much. He went to college
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  Speaker 1: at Skidmore. I went to Miami. It was a couple
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: of years when Joe came back and became this powerhouse
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  Speaker 1: attorney when we really kind of revitalized the brothership. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know what Joe did, like where he partied,
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  Speaker 1: all the clubs and stuff like that. I would see
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  Speaker 1: him every now and then with the Poly guys at
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  Speaker 1: Hobnails on 3rd Avenue, maybe Palladium. But Joe, what was
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  Speaker 1: your disco hangout back then on the weekends?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the Roller Palace.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Roller Palace?
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  Speaker 2: I could skate, right? I was a hockey player, so
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  Speaker 2: I could skate.
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  Speaker 1: You're a great hockey player.
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  Speaker 2: That was my move, man. Yeah. If I didn't go
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  Speaker 2: in the Roller Palace, even if it was roller skating,
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  Speaker 2: that was how I had an upper hand on all
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  Speaker 2: the other guys.
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  Speaker 1: No kidding.
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  Speaker 2: The Roller Palace was my spot.
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  Speaker 1: Now, that place is on Sheepshead Bay Road. It's like
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  Speaker 1: a Bally's gym now, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Exactly right. And, of course, you just said
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  Speaker 2: Hot Nails on 3rd Avenue and Bay Ridge with all
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  Speaker 2: the boys from Polly with, you know, Danny Fogg and
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  Speaker 2: Hannah and And Bill Corso, the whole crew, Anastasio. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was good.
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  Speaker 1: They want to get the, you know, Johnny Barron's and
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  Speaker 1: Sky Bill. Yeah, they want to put the whole crew
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  Speaker 1: back together. I told you this last week. One day
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  Speaker 1: next week at the San Gennaro Feast, specifically my buddy
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  Speaker 1: Tommy and his brother Sal Leonard, they own El Cortil.
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  Speaker 1: We want to get the band back together, Joseph. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I'm there, man. Let's do it. That would be fun.
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  Speaker 2: That would be absolutely fun, man. That would be great.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, it's funny. I thought about you again yesterday, right?
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing with President Trump. I got to remind people,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people have helped me along the way,
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  Speaker 1: solidify this relationship. Andrew Giuliani did an awful lot for me,
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  Speaker 1: an awful lot. But the guy that started all this,
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  Speaker 1: pick up the phone, KT's calling, Kevin, is Joseph. Joseph
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  Speaker 1: was on the way. to meet President Trump at Mar-a-Lago
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  Speaker 1: when President Trump's legal issues started to pile up very
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  Speaker 1: early on. And he met with President Trump and Eric
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  Speaker 1: Trump and a bunch of others. And he called me
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  Speaker 1: on the way to the airport. He said, am I
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  Speaker 1: doing the right thing? I said, yes, come on, man.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's the president. It's going to be huge for you.
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  Speaker 1: And what does Joe do in return? He goes down
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  Speaker 1: there and he's sitting with Trump at some meal, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm wrong, correct me. And he goes, you know, my
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  Speaker 1: boy said he loves you. Now, what you told me
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  Speaker 1: then was Trump right away said I love him too.
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  Speaker 1: Truth is, back then, we had almost no relationship, the
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  Speaker 1: president and I. I mean nothing. It all started right there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I educated him a little bit to your background
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  Speaker 2: on how strong you are in supporting him. And I said, look,
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  Speaker 2: you need friends right now, especially in New York City,
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  Speaker 2: where all these things go on his show. And, and
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  Speaker 2: he looked at me and said, okay, I'll go on
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  Speaker 2: a show. And I said, oh, you will. And yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then of course, all this press people to the
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  Speaker 2: right and left of him, you know, Steven Chung and
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  Speaker 2: Miller and all these guys, they looked at me like
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  Speaker 2: they wanted to stab me with the steak knife. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they like to control very much the, and I got
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  Speaker 2: a little extra later about Joe, you know, there's a
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  Speaker 2: protocol with the boss and you got to go through.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, okay. I didn't know that. I just
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  Speaker 2: told him he should go on my friend's show. And
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  Speaker 2: he did it. He did it. That was the end
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  Speaker 2: of it. So, I mean, yeah. You know, when you
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  Speaker 2: become vice president of the United States, I want, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with J.D. Vance on the ticket. Just remember that, brother.
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  Speaker 1: I won't forget. That's why I brought it up this morning.
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  Speaker 1: I took a nice picture with Trump in the Oval
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  Speaker 1: Office yesterday. The Vance Rosenberg 2028 ticket. You know, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: you're a guy that's met a lot of big-time people,
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  Speaker 1: represented big-time people, and One court case is, quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: for big-time people. Serving ever cross your mind? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you do stuff with the Army, which is bigger and
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  Speaker 1: better for me than any service you can possibly do.
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  Speaker 1: So while I'm at it, thank you for your service.
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  Speaker 1: But did public service, one of these political roles, ever
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  Speaker 1: cross your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Not a lot, Sid. You know, it was like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Trump had mentioned to me, he said, well, you should
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  Speaker 2: come to D.C. with me. You'll be the attorney early on.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, unless I'm on the take.
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  Speaker 2: As an attorney general, I can't afford to go to D.C.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really want to have a bribery scandal, a
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  Speaker 2: corruption scandal my first year as AG. So it was
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  Speaker 2: nothing that I really could give a serious amount of
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  Speaker 2: attention to. Now, it may be different. Obviously, if you're there... Well,
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  Speaker 2: that would be a whole different story. I'll be there
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  Speaker 2: with you. You know that.
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  Speaker 1: And you know that. And your buddy, your good buddy,
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  Speaker 1: Todd Blanche, he is the attorney general right now. Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Todd's a good friend, and I'm so happy he is
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  Speaker 2: the attorney general. He's such a great guy and a
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  Speaker 2: great lawyer and a calming presence when we need some
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  Speaker 2: calming presence in D.C., especially at Justice. So a good guy, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And we were co-counsel in many cases, and we became
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  Speaker 2: very good friends, both avid Ranger fans. And so he's
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  Speaker 2: doing a great job. And you know he's doing a
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  Speaker 2: great job because you don't hear his name every single day.
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  Speaker 2: That's sort of what a general is supposed to be doing.
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  Speaker 2: And the role I play now as the United States
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  Speaker 2: Army Ambassador, it's an honor to serve in that capacity,
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  Speaker 2: especially as a former Ranger and whatnot. So really, it's
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  Speaker 2: a very important role. It's not that type of role.
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  Speaker 2: It's not an administration role. It's not anything... to the
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  Speaker 2: level you're talking about, but yeah, anything I can do
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  Speaker 2: to serve this country, Sid, would be absolutely my honor. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you are.
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  Speaker 1: It's a big deal. You're not the Secretary of Army.
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  Speaker 1: That was almost Vinnie Viola's. He didn't want it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a very, very big deal, and you know what
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. You're friends with all these generals, some
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  Speaker 1: of which you believe, and I don't disagree, were asked
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  Speaker 1: to leave when they shouldn't have been. Pete Hexhut has
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  Speaker 1: come up to fire for some of that. So I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you that the last thing the President said
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  Speaker 1: to me as I exited the Oval Office yesterday was, Sid,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to like what I'm doing in Iran next week.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to like it. Because he knows I've been
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  Speaker 1: back and forth and critical of times So you tell
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  Speaker 1: me your opinion on where we are in this as
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  Speaker 1: I call it now Iran conflict.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think Iran Iran Wars reached sort of a
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  Speaker 2: dangerous decision point right the straighter for moose is operating
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  Speaker 2: at a fraction of normal traffic said tankers being attacked
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  Speaker 2: oil remains above 100 dollars a barrel and And Iran's
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  Speaker 2: effectively trying to charge ships for safe passage. The United
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  Speaker 2: States cannot permit this Revolutionary Guard to operate in this–
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  Speaker 2: it really is an international maritime protection racket. So you
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  Speaker 2: can't do that. We don't have the mafia on the water.
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  Speaker 2: But we also need to distinguish between defending Iran. Navigation,
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  Speaker 2: eliminating military threats and attempting to overthrow an entire government.
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  Speaker 2: So the president is absolutely right to maintain overwhelming military leverage.
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  Speaker 2: She is. But, you know, the administration really has to
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  Speaker 2: tell the American people what victory means, because we haven't
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  Speaker 2: really done that yet.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We've pronounced victory. a dozen times, Sid, at least a
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  Speaker 2: dozen times. And we have to really explain what victory means.
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  Speaker 2: So protect our troops, open the sea lanes, destroy the
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  Speaker 2: forces attacking Americans. Easy. Three boxes to check. You know,
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  Speaker 2: but let's not stumble into a massive ground war without
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  Speaker 2: a defined mission. And that's what a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: military guys are concerned about, right? Congressional involvement and a
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  Speaker 2: credible plan for what happens afterwards is what we need. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we just don't want to go in there
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  Speaker 2: and just go in without a plan. That was the
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  Speaker 2: problem initially. We went in without a plan. And I
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  Speaker 2: blame Department of Defense on that one. I blame D-Texas.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we went in there. We didn't secure our
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  Speaker 2: embassies and our bases properly. And, Sid, our embassies and
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  Speaker 2: our bases were annihilated. So, you know, we just have to,
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  Speaker 2: have to have a plan to go in. The mission
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  Speaker 2: should be clear. Protect Americans, open the sea lanes, neutralize
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  Speaker 2: the threat, and avoid another 20-year occupation. That's what we
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  Speaker 2: have to do.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Let me get to this trial, which is
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  Speaker 1: the trial that everybody's still talking about, Lindsay Clancy, which
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  Speaker 1: you predicted correctly that would end in a mistrial, and
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  Speaker 1: it did.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And it turns out this 12th juror was actually the
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  Speaker 1: cover of the New York Post last night. This 12th
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  Speaker 1: juror had a lot of a lot of attention. The
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  Speaker 1: folks aren't paying that much attention. But no, the case,
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  Speaker 1: of course, this lady ended up killing three of her
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  Speaker 1: own children. What is the whole controversy around this 12th juror?
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  Speaker 2: There really should be no controversy. I mean, except we're
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  Speaker 2: in a different world now. I mean, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: jurors are now doing television interviews. He has a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy. It's all upside down as far as I'm
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  Speaker 2: concerned when it comes to this legal system. But this
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  Speaker 2: juror did exactly what our system required him to do, Sid.
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  Speaker 2: He listened to seven weeks of evidence. He made an
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  Speaker 2: independent judgment, and he refused to surrender that judgment merely
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  Speaker 2: because 11 other people disagreed with him. So that's what
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  Speaker 2: happens in trials. And that's what we want. So I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't in that jury room, right? I didn't hear every
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  Speaker 2: piece of evidence or what they discussed. So I can't
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  Speaker 2: declare that the juror was right or it was wrong
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  Speaker 2: or the others were 11 were wrong. But I will
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  Speaker 2: absolutely defend his right and his duty to reach his
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  Speaker 2: own honest verdict. So, you know, a juror is not
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  Speaker 2: a popularity contest. 11 votes don't erase the 12 jurors
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  Speaker 2: one It doesn't mean the minority juror must eventually cave
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  Speaker 2: or surrender to the majority. So this is what's supposed
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  Speaker 2: to happen. He gave some good– look, I guess the
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  Speaker 2: reason he did this interview was to explain his thinking.
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  Speaker 2: And honestly, he came up with some good answers to
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  Speaker 2: explain why he was holding strong. And I think that
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  Speaker 2: was great for him because he was coming– there were
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  Speaker 2: death threats to his family. You understand that? A juror,
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  Speaker 2: someone who served– You know, something that you get pulled
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  Speaker 2: out of your daily routine in life. You don't get
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  Speaker 2: money for it. You're sitting there and you have to listen.
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  Speaker 2: And that's a major important part. I mean, aside from, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: military service, I can't think of another thing you can
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  Speaker 2: do as a citizen to contribute to society as much
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  Speaker 2: as being a juror. And so, honestly, when I hear
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  Speaker 2: stuff like a juror's being threatened or a family's being threatened,
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  Speaker 2: it makes me sick to my stomach.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: If a juror truly says, I have a reasonable doubt
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  Speaker 2: that the prosecution proved some irresponsibility, okay, but then votes
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  Speaker 2: guilty anyway, that would really conflict with the judge's instructions.
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  Speaker 2: in the American law. We don't ever want that. So anyway, look,
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  Speaker 2: I just feel that at this point, This juror has
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  Speaker 2: explained himself. The juror should not be vilified, merely because
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  Speaker 2: he's still alone. Yeah, I'll talk to that. Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: The request for mental illness was powerful. She did. But
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  Speaker 2: mental illness and legal insanity, I've said this to you before,
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  Speaker 2: are not synonymous. They are not. So he says the planning,
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  Speaker 2: the manner of the killings, her conduct convinced him that
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  Speaker 2: she remained criminally responsible, period, end of story. That's his position.
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  Speaker 2: So we could debate whether he was right or wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But that's not what this is. Okay? It requires... A
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  Speaker 2: unanimous jury verdict requires all 12 to vote one way
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  Speaker 2: or another. So it's not 11 and 1 to hold out,
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  Speaker 2: and therefore that 1 must be wrong because 11 are right.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure that's precisely the lawful result when
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  Speaker 2: you have something like this happen. I'm not sure I
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  Speaker 2: can agree. So I support this guy. Again, I don't
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  Speaker 2: really know enough about the evidence. I mean, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about some of the facts in this case about her
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  Speaker 2: mental illness, which was clear. But again, that's not legal insanity.
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  Speaker 1: No, those are two different things. Before we wrap this
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  Speaker 1: great conversation up, I know it was a week ago today,
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  Speaker 1: believe it or not, already a week since we commemorated
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  Speaker 1: that 9-11 day, and President Trump was on this show
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  Speaker 1: for like an hour, but he was at the Pentagon
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  Speaker 1: that day, and Mamdani and AOC were yucking it up,
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  Speaker 1: having a grand old time, reading off the name of
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  Speaker 1: murdered victims. What a great time to chuckle and laugh,
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  Speaker 1: AOC and that asshole Mamdani. But you were at Fort Bragg.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what that experience was like.
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  Speaker 2: That was also very beautiful. I mean, it was at
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  Speaker 2: the 18th Airborne Corps, which is our special operations forces
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  Speaker 2: command center in Fort Bragg. And I was invited there
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  Speaker 2: by the Army and General Anderson, who hosted this. And
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  Speaker 2: it was really a special event because a lot of those.
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  Speaker 2: Soldiers from those two units, the Special Operations Forces and
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  Speaker 2: that command and 18th Airborne Corps were in response to 9-11,
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: went right over to Afghanistan. And to hear some of
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  Speaker 2: the stories was really heart-wrenching. And then a New York
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  Speaker 2: City firefighter paramedic who was there on 9-11. um, spoke
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  Speaker 2: and boy, oh boy, that was hard to get through.
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  Speaker 2: So it was really, um, it was really very touching.
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  Speaker 2: It was very important. And it really was a very
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  Speaker 2: solid event. Well, you know, so we've both lost a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people there. I lost, I didn't count the
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  Speaker 2: number of friends and family members I lost anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Um, a lot of Polly guys, 11 Polly people died
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  Speaker 1: that day.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. 11 Polly people and cousins. And it was just
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  Speaker 2: to sit there and, You know, it just hit me
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  Speaker 2: so hard that day and to listen to this. And
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  Speaker 2: I was sitting in the front row with General Anderson, like,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: sitting there. I didn't even, like, hide my tears. It
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: was really a difficult, difficult day. But it was done
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  Speaker 2: so well, as the Army always does. They stand up
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  Speaker 2: and something like that. So it was an important and
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  Speaker 2: beautiful event. But, yes, at the same time when I
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: saw that video. of those two pieces of garbage, smiling
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: and chatting. And I'm not saying they were laughing at
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  Speaker 2: the deceased people. Bill Smith. But the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have the decency when the parents, the family members,
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  Speaker 2: and members of the community were bawling their eyes out
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  Speaker 2: during the roll call readings. And they're sitting there talking
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  Speaker 2: about God knows what, whatever the hell they were talking about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's unbelievable to me that they didn't even
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  Speaker 2: have the judgment to just shut up for five minutes
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  Speaker 2: and let that happen with dignity. Look a little solemn.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I know he doesn't care about the one
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  Speaker 2: who died at 9-11. Neither of them do.
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  Speaker 1: No, he did care about Muhammad Atta, the guy that
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: crashed the plane into the building. He was upset for him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I mean, that was a great loss.
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  Speaker 1: That was a great loss for him. But yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: New Yorkers, he didn't care. I actually got mad.
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  Speaker 2: That was disgusting to me.
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  Speaker 1: It was gross.
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  Speaker 2: That may have been, aside from sitting there when Hassan
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  Speaker 2: Piker said that we deserve, the Americans deserve 9-11, and
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: him not saying anything, because that's the same thing as saying,
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. When you don't say anything, when
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  Speaker 2: someone says that, that's saying, I agree with you. That's
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  Speaker 2: what our mayor has done. Aside from that, this was
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  Speaker 2: the worst thing I've ever seen, because there were people
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  Speaker 2: crying as the family members' names being read, and then, like,
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  Speaker 2: yucking it up like they couldn't be bothered. That's why
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  Speaker 2: you should have stayed the hell away from that place.
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  Speaker 2: You really should have.
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  Speaker 1: Would have been a nice move. Last one, 60 seconds. Stanford,
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: very impressive road win. Last week, they were up by
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  Speaker 1: 70 points. I never saw this ever in my whole life.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be 60 in April. The team actually left after
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: the third quarter. They said, okay, we've had enough. They
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: were down 77-7, Florida A & M. A little more
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: competition tonight, Wake Forest, but Miami is still a three-touchdown
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  Speaker 1: favorite on the road. I expect them to go to 3-0,
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  Speaker 1: and they look amazing. We both said the team that
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: went to the National Championship game last year, they lost
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: to Indiana, but they got there. They're better. This quarterback, Mensah,
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: is better than Beck. The defense is even better. They
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: have more experience. These young guys at wide receiver. This
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  Speaker 1: Hurricane team looks like a wrecking ball.
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  Speaker 2: Malik Saitani is the best player in college football, period,
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  Speaker 2: end of story. He's a game-changer dynamically in a different way.
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  Speaker 2: I was down there watching the practice. I spoke to
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Mario Cristobal, and it's just unbelievable to me, Sid, how
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  Speaker 2: good this team is now. That being said, tonight is
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: a Wake Forest game, right, at Wake Forest. Let's not
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: sleep on Wake Forest. I'm begging.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: No, they're tough. Their quarterback is good. They got the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: kid who played at North Carolina last year. I saw
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: them play last week, and they can score points. He's
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: pretty good. But in all seriousness, it should not be
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: a close game.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: It shouldn't be because we're the most talented team, I think,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: one of them in the country. I mean, no one
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: impressed me. Ohio State certainly.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Texas looks pretty good. Come on, Arch Manning, Texas. They
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: look pretty good.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: It was pretty good.
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: We went to Florida with Ohio State last year in
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: the college football playoffs. I remember. I remember. So I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: just think if we just keep doing what we're doing. But,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: you know, a few years back, now this is a
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: completely different team. We were undefeated 5-0, and then we
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: ran to Georgia Tech, which was not even a ranked team,
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: and we lost. I remember. That's because we were losing.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: looking ahead. In sports, you always have to be cognizant
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: of not looking ahead. I just pray to God we
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: don't come in there thinking about the Clemson game in
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: two weeks or games after that.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Clemson stinks. They do stink. I mean, what happened? I know,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: but what happened? This guy, Debo Sweeney. You had Trevor Lawrence.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: They were playing for championships every year. They're not even
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: competitive anymore.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes you just run out of steam, Sid.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: I think sometimes you just run out of steam. First
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: of all, he resisted the transfer portal situation, which I
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: can't stand personally. I mean, it's like there's that quarterback
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: for Texas Tech, Castellanos. That's his fourth college football team
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: in three years.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, there are pros that are more stable.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny about that? My friend, Randy Levine,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: who's the president of the New York Yankees, he was
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: put on this job by President Trump. Funny you mention that.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: True story. So Randy, along with some other guys, there's
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: this big conference at the White House, and Rubio was there,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and Mike Johnson, and Urban Meyer, Tiger Woods, Nick Saban.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: So Randy has a bill that is about to be
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: voted on next week. This week, they won the House
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: vote to actually push the bill forward. And stop all
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: this nonsense like you're talking about in college football, four
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: teams in four years. So one of the things I
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: mentioned to President Trump, Joseph, in the Oval Office yesterday was,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: how about Randy Levine and college sports? And he said,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: we're getting it done, Sid, right? We're getting it done.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: It's great. It's great. We need to get it done.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Because when guys are leaving the NFL to go play
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: college football to make more money, you know the world
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: is completely— But.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: How great is it that President Trump actually cares about
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it and knows about it?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Yep. No, it's great. It's great. And hopefully Randy is,
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I know you're friends with Randy Levine. Hopefully he'll,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you know, use his large brain and his might to
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: get this done because we need to get this fixed.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: This is crazy. I'm sorry.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: It's nuts.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that Lane Kippen decided not to use it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: He's still killing teams. But not last week.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Nuts.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't. They're playing tomorrow night against Ole Miss,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: by the way. LSU, right? His old team that he abandoned.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: He said he wasn't going to abandon them. He left
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: them in the college football playoffs as dogs. Yeah, I know.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: So I hope to God Ole Miss just annihilates LSU.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: They got a good quarterback, Ole Miss. Trinidad Chambliss.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I like that kid. He's 45 years old.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: I know. That's a great way to end this. Joseph Takapina,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: as always. Excellent, excellent job. I love you. Really great work, everybody.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: Joe Takapina right there, the amazing defense attorney. We've been friends,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: me and this kid, for 48 years.
• 18:32
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• 18:35
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• 19:01
  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on here?