Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Nick Cannon & Klondike Blonde
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning, the Breakfast Club Morning.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Everybody is d J n V. Charlamagne and the guy.
- 0:07Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club.
- 0:08Speaker 2: Our special guest host Chris Keeling his here.
- 0:10Speaker 4: What's that?
- 0:11Speaker 1: Have we got some special guests in the building. Our
- 0:13Speaker 1: guy can in his hair. Yes, with a special guest
- 0:16Speaker 1: Klondike Blonde.
- 0:18Speaker 3: We got a future superstar in the building in the
- 0:21Speaker 3: granted to you all. Yeah, but we've seen it.
- 0:24Speaker 2: But he hasn't been here. But you're doing every damn
- 0:25Speaker 2: thing out there.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I mean, I'm good man, I'm excited about you know,
- 0:29Speaker 3: obviously here to talk about the new show that we
- 0:31Speaker 3: launching on the u B t V H one.
- 0:34Speaker 5: Uh.
- 0:35Speaker 3: But just working man, you know how to go just
- 0:37Speaker 3: the grinds, doing my morning show thing too. So that's
- 0:40Speaker 3: probably why I really ain't been able to be up here.
- 0:42Speaker 5: What future superstar speaking of you the superstars, how you
- 0:44Speaker 5: feel about your son being a better rapper than you?
- 0:48Speaker 2: Yes, we play what you think?
- 0:56Speaker 3: You know? I go, I don't want none of my
- 0:57Speaker 3: wax sauce to get on him. So I'm like he's
- 1:00Speaker 3: doing that. I'm calling back now.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Somebody said he over the ghost right for you?
- 1:05Speaker 3: He should nah, My son is amazing man, and like
- 1:07Speaker 3: seeing like that. You know, when I'm young, kids really
- 1:09Speaker 3: got the natural swag, like he'd be putting me up
- 1:12Speaker 3: on the new game and stuff. And the dope thing
- 1:14Speaker 3: is he's a rapper, but he's also a producer too,
- 1:16Speaker 3: so he's really into that space of like making beats
- 1:19Speaker 3: and DJing and gaming and all that stuff. If he
- 1:22Speaker 3: wants to do that, I see he really got it.
- 1:24Speaker 3: He y'all see him rocking them stages doing it every
- 1:26Speaker 3: now on tour with his mom.
- 1:27Speaker 5: So that's pressure, all right, because he's Nick Cannon's damn right.
- 1:31Speaker 3: There's no pressure of being Nick Cannon's You're still a superstar,
- 1:35Speaker 3: but now being Mariah's daughter and singing yes true, that's
- 1:41Speaker 3: the press. So that's why even with Monroe, we gotta
- 1:43Speaker 3: doing things like I taught her how to play guitar.
- 1:45Speaker 3: We still I want her to have other aspects. She
- 1:47Speaker 3: really wants to be an actress too. She's talking about
- 1:49Speaker 3: she wants to go to the Yell Drama School and
- 1:54Speaker 3: make sure like if she really gets like she's taking
- 1:57Speaker 3: it seriously. She's already talking about, you know, getting her
- 2:00Speaker 3: her degree in theater at Yale, So like just trying to,
- 2:04Speaker 3: you know, as a father, trying to really guide them
- 2:06Speaker 3: in the direction. And we never pushed it on them,
- 2:08Speaker 3: but the fact that now they're really starting to embrace
- 2:10Speaker 3: it as they get into the teenage world, really want
- 2:13Speaker 3: to cultivate it.
- 2:14Speaker 2: So I'm proud of them, man, with everything that you're doing.
- 2:17Speaker 5: Right.
- 2:17Speaker 2: We talked about some of the shows. When do you
- 2:19Speaker 2: have time to do so many goddamn skits?
- 2:21Speaker 5: Nick?
- 2:23Speaker 2: I was watching one this morning show them It's like, Nick,
- 2:25Speaker 2: just boy, this is boy.
- 2:26Speaker 3: It's all part of the movement though, It's like, I mean,
- 2:28Speaker 3: y'all know y'all do this every morning. It's like it's
- 2:30Speaker 3: cameras always around, a lot of creative people around. So
- 2:33Speaker 3: I just my team was like, yo, let's start doing it.
- 2:36Speaker 3: We just do it. We probably do, like I drop
- 2:38Speaker 3: like a skit or two every week, just some fly shit.
- 2:41Speaker 2: They do it.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Skip with one of your child's moms, yes, a lot.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Any other child mom be like, why.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Do you do so many skits with it?
- 2:47Speaker 3: What's interesting? Because like, I mean, everybody kind of got
- 2:50Speaker 3: they lane. So like on my morning show, The Daily Cannon,
- 2:55Speaker 3: I have, you know, one of the mothers of my children.
- 2:57Speaker 3: She's in radio. She dj Abby Daily Rosa, so that's
- 3:00Speaker 3: kind of her space. So our social commentary and daily conversation,
- 3:04Speaker 3: that's her lane. So Brie is on selling Sunset and
- 3:08Speaker 3: like kind of like a social media gurgule and stuff,
- 3:10Speaker 3: so that's her lane. So and everybody even behind the scenes,
- 3:13Speaker 3: like you know, some of them have like foundations, and
- 3:17Speaker 3: we do a lot of philanthropic work. You'll see that
- 3:19Speaker 3: some are literally like doctors and writing op eds and thesis.
- 3:23Speaker 3: So you'll be able Like the people that specifically the
- 3:25Speaker 3: mothers and my children that I have in my life,
- 3:27Speaker 3: I try to cultivate whatever it is that they're into,
- 3:30Speaker 3: and even kind of goes all the way back to
- 3:32Speaker 3: the business of like future superstars, Like I feel like
- 3:34Speaker 3: I'm in that season. I'm in my era of just
- 3:36Speaker 3: helping others and kind of amplifying whatever it is that
- 3:38Speaker 3: they got going. And sometimes you just happened to be
- 3:41Speaker 3: my baby mama. Yeah nah, I mean you too. Man.
- 3:45Speaker 3: You don't get enough credit for all that you do,
- 3:48Speaker 3: and you know, helping people and putting them on and
- 3:50Speaker 3: allowing them to shine. So I feel like we're kind
- 3:52Speaker 3: of those guys that get to say, all right, if
- 3:55Speaker 3: we see something in somebody, we can kind of put
- 3:57Speaker 3: the mechanisms around them and allow them to do their thing.
- 4:00Speaker 5: All breazon to God. There it is now Klondike Blond,
- 4:02Speaker 5: how are you, man?
- 4:03Speaker 6: I'm doing goodreat how are you?
- 4:05Speaker 5: I'm blessed? Black and hoighly favorite. Now, Now, where did
- 4:07Speaker 5: the content of Future Superstars come from? Nick? And why
- 4:09Speaker 5: Klondike Blond? Why did why her? Specifically?
- 4:11Speaker 3: I mean, if she's to go, she her vibe is
- 4:15Speaker 3: punk rock rap like and if you saw her episode
- 4:17Speaker 3: that actually just aired, you know, uh, this week is
- 4:20Speaker 3: really these people have compelling stories. If we remember what
- 4:23Speaker 3: VH one was always about, was like we saw the
- 4:27Speaker 3: behind the music and it was really like telling the
- 4:29Speaker 3: story sometimes you know it was a retrospective story. But
- 4:33Speaker 3: now it's like these are the origin stories. So this
- 4:35Speaker 3: is like before the music. This is in her journey man.
- 4:38Speaker 3: I mean everything that she's gone through in life from
- 4:42Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of tragedy, there's a lot
- 4:44Speaker 3: of things to wear. How her music helps with their
- 4:46Speaker 3: anxiety and to be able to kind of create your
- 4:49Speaker 3: own genre. We went on this tour and I just
- 4:53Speaker 3: wanted to highlight and tell the stories of these people
- 4:55Speaker 3: that are just more than musicians, because we didn't we
- 4:58Speaker 3: don't have that no more. We don't have other than
- 5:00Speaker 3: platforms like y'all had. But we came up with v
- 5:02Speaker 3: H one behind the Music, you know, uh one O
- 5:06Speaker 3: six in Parking. So I feel like we can now
- 5:08Speaker 3: still be those curators to help this next generation because
- 5:10Speaker 3: I just got frustrated as somebody who has a label
- 5:12Speaker 3: and has artists, and like, yo, what happened to that
- 5:15Speaker 3: promo run? What happened to putting people on the road,
- 5:17Speaker 3: coming into radio stations playing they song, meet and pds
- 5:20Speaker 3: and shake your hands, kissing babies, all of that type
- 5:22Speaker 3: of stuff. And we did that. I started the tour
- 5:25Speaker 3: with Live Nation, and then I put the cameras on it,
- 5:28Speaker 3: and you know, now we got you know, a tour,
- 5:30Speaker 3: a TV show. They on the cover of Vibe magazine.
- 5:32Speaker 3: It's like so now it's like this is like that
- 5:34Speaker 3: that starter kit of like all right, the way double
- 5:37Speaker 3: XL has the Freshman cover, But now we got the
- 5:40Speaker 3: cover of the magazine, we got the tour, we got
- 5:41Speaker 3: the TV show. So if you see one of these acts,
- 5:44Speaker 3: they literally gonna become, you know, the next super what you.
- 5:46Speaker 5: Just said is why I feel like it's hard to
- 5:48Speaker 5: build superstars nowadays.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Facts like there.
- 5:50Speaker 5: Are no I don't think who's the last superstar. I'm
- 5:53Speaker 5: talking a superstar.
- 5:54Speaker 3: We've had facts now and then we had that conversation
- 5:56Speaker 3: all the time because it's like one you don't everything.
- 6:00Speaker 3: It's so microwaveable, you know what I mean. Everybody wanted,
- 6:03Speaker 3: want it now, and then when they don't want it
- 6:04Speaker 3: no more, they on to the next thing. But if
- 6:06Speaker 3: you know someone's story, if you know what she went through,
- 6:08Speaker 3: if you know you know her relationship, you know with
- 6:11Speaker 3: her family and the things that you know how close
- 6:14Speaker 3: she is with you know, her brother was one of
- 6:17Speaker 3: her biggest fans and had a tragic accident and now
- 6:19Speaker 3: she's doing it for her brother. If you know that
- 6:21Speaker 3: the songs that you know Ray she has all the
- 6:23Speaker 3: tattoos is connected to growing up in a trap house
- 6:26Speaker 3: and a mom and dad being teenagers. Like when you
- 6:28Speaker 3: know that about somebody, when you hear their music, you're like, Okay,
- 6:31Speaker 3: I'm connected now. And I feel like this generation of kids,
- 6:34Speaker 3: they they're figuring it out through their phones and social media,
- 6:37Speaker 3: but it's never amplified. You never get to see it
- 6:40Speaker 3: at a level where you know, hopefully we're doing with
- 6:43Speaker 3: super future.
- 6:44Speaker 7: Superstars are so like what you're being from Raleigh, North
- 6:47Speaker 7: Carolina to South, How did you get discovered because it
- 6:50Speaker 7: seems like no one really looks for us down.
- 6:51Speaker 4: South exactly, especially in the Carolina right right.
- 6:54Speaker 8: So the thing is, I didn't move to Cali when
- 6:56Speaker 8: I was twelve, Okay, so, but this is in the
- 6:59Speaker 8: Bay Area. Even in the Bay Area, I couldn't really
- 7:01Speaker 8: like get my name out there like I wanted to.
- 7:03Speaker 8: So sin as I turned eighteen, I moved to Atlanta
- 7:05Speaker 8: because I knew, like growing up, I knew that was
- 7:07Speaker 8: a spot like to be like to get discovered in
- 7:09Speaker 8: to pop off your career.
- 7:11Speaker 6: So that's really how I got discovered in Atlanta.
- 7:13Speaker 2: What about the name Klondyke Blonde.
- 7:16Speaker 8: Honestly, it came out of my ass one day I
- 7:18Speaker 8: really nowhere, Like I had just cut my hair and
- 7:29Speaker 8: bleached and blonde, and I was about to upload my
- 7:31Speaker 8: first song. I'm looking in the mirror, high as hell,
- 7:34Speaker 8: and I'm like, I'm not feel to upload this song
- 7:35Speaker 8: under my government name.
- 7:37Speaker 6: So I don't know, it just came to me. I
- 7:38Speaker 6: was like Klondike Blonde.
- 7:39Speaker 4: This is it?
- 7:40Speaker 6: So I really I uploaded this song I put the
- 7:42Speaker 6: name is Klondike Blonde, and it's just tell you stupid.
- 7:45Speaker 5: One of our producers very it just has nothing to
- 7:49Speaker 5: do with you at all. She goes, yeah, she's a lesbian,
- 7:51Speaker 5: and I go, what sexuality got to.
- 7:53Speaker 6: Do a lot.
- 7:58Speaker 5: Then she comes back in the room and goes, cow
- 8:00Speaker 5: is wrong. She's not let me.
- 8:02Speaker 3: But did they want her to be one?
- 8:04Speaker 9: You know?
- 8:05Speaker 3: I'm like, what does this?
- 8:06Speaker 5: He said?
- 8:07Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, that makes sense. I'm like.
- 8:13Speaker 8: When I be out and stuff, like at the club,
- 8:14Speaker 8: for some reason, like I get so much female attention.
- 8:17Speaker 3: Like.
- 8:19Speaker 8: They don't even know my name yet they have my phone,
- 8:21Speaker 8: putting the number my phone.
- 8:22Speaker 4: I'm like, probably because of the tattoos.
- 8:24Speaker 5: Maybe, but yeah, no, go ahead, Nick said, the tattoos
- 8:31Speaker 5: tell the story. Yeah, you have a weapon of mass
- 8:33Speaker 5: destruction on your neck as a.
- 8:37Speaker 2: Forty seven.
- 8:38Speaker 6: Everything out of there.
- 8:39Speaker 5: Talk to me, where do we start the A K?
- 8:42Speaker 6: Yes, so Bella and Katana or two of my little sisters.
- 8:45Speaker 6: So the A plus the K together for me?
- 8:47Speaker 4: Okay, what about the wolf?
- 8:50Speaker 8: Not a wolf is my Doggiel family.
- 8:56Speaker 2: You're right, in the triangle.
- 8:59Speaker 6: Okay, so one of my best friends.
- 9:01Speaker 8: I was like, oh no, I was a little sad
- 9:03Speaker 8: one day and she said that this is supposed to
- 9:05Speaker 8: like uplift you and like change your life and listen to.
- 9:08Speaker 3: It try, and you know that's crazy.
- 9:11Speaker 8: She told me like in the morning, and I went
- 9:13Speaker 8: to go get it in the afternoon.
- 9:15Speaker 6: So like that was kind.
- 9:16Speaker 3: Of she's one of them. Sposed like her song right
- 9:18Speaker 3: now is called tatted Up. That's her single, and she literally,
- 9:21Speaker 3: I mean one of the biggest one is probably covered
- 9:23Speaker 3: right now, but she got Blanco on my belly. Yeah,
- 9:28Speaker 3: like Tupac Ship. So it was like she she really,
- 9:30Speaker 3: what did you find?
- 9:31Speaker 2: People?
- 9:31Speaker 5: I don't know, I think, yeah, one.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Of my what did you find? I mean, well, honestly,
- 9:41Speaker 3: it's uh, you know, she's kind of truncating her story
- 9:44Speaker 3: a little bit. But she was on the grind for
- 9:46Speaker 3: a minute and actually had a song that went super viral.
- 9:49Speaker 3: A lot of people already. Uh, her drip record went crazy,
- 9:53Speaker 3: like twenty thirty million string and I heard like my
- 9:55Speaker 3: kids were singing it off of TikTok, and I'm like
- 9:59Speaker 3: one of them, annoying that I'm back on my I
- 10:05Speaker 3: didn't know about it, like I see my kids singing it,
- 10:07Speaker 3: like what is this damn song?
- 10:09Speaker 5: And then like you got to make sure it's not
- 10:10Speaker 5: something appropriate?
- 10:11Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like, oh, this is join is crazy.
- 10:13Speaker 3: And then through our connection you know, uh, through Frisco
- 10:16Speaker 3: Chuck in the Bay and everything. She they who runs
- 10:19Speaker 3: incredible music, was like, Yo, this is this is that record?
- 10:23Speaker 3: And then were we met her and knowing that she
- 10:26Speaker 3: was already moving as I was like, Yo, this she's
- 10:30Speaker 3: a superstar. Like when she walked in the room, that's
- 10:32Speaker 3: a star right there. And then from then I was
- 10:34Speaker 3: putting together the future Superstar tour and we're like, yo,
- 10:37Speaker 3: we could probably make this work. And you know me,
- 10:39Speaker 3: I'm always thinking TV shows, movies, products and all that.
- 10:42Speaker 3: And she embodied everything that we were trying to put
- 10:45Speaker 3: together with that that young energy fact that she already
- 10:48Speaker 3: has something that was popping and really just wanted to cultivate,
- 10:51Speaker 3: like yo, when you see somebody. I was like, all right,
- 10:53Speaker 3: we're gonna tweak it like this. We're gonna take all
- 10:55Speaker 3: that viral sensation and put something on And I was like, yo,
- 10:58Speaker 3: she's a rock star. So we've been going with this
- 11:00Speaker 3: punk rock rap movement that she created.
- 11:02Speaker 5: Do you feel like you are because I see you're
- 11:04Speaker 5: standing behind her, and you know, do you feel like
- 11:06Speaker 5: you missed out because you didn't stand behind by Kilane
- 11:09Speaker 5: like you should or maybe her you have to do
- 11:12Speaker 5: with her to her.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Yeah, And a lot of people don't even know there's
- 11:14Speaker 3: a connection between her and Carolina. It's just something something
- 11:16Speaker 3: in the water in the Bay Area that really like
- 11:18Speaker 3: it's just young stars up there, really really getting it
- 11:20Speaker 3: popping in. I think one of the reasons why I
- 11:23Speaker 3: actually bought Future Superstars t v H one is because
- 11:27Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know me as the music
- 11:30Speaker 3: executive or you know, the Actually we.
- 11:32Speaker 5: Try not to think about you with music that.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Because this is the starting between him, Carlos Miller, fucking
- 11:42Speaker 3: everybody I employed on while it's out there, we created
- 11:46Speaker 3: this narrative that I don't know music.
- 11:48Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy.
- 11:48Speaker 7: I was singing the words to Jiggelow and he was
- 11:50Speaker 7: so upset that I knew the words to Jigo.
- 11:55Speaker 1: My friend just shot I got a straight, straight shot
- 12:00Speaker 1: today got no hits.
- 12:02Speaker 3: That's not true this conversation. You do have a good
- 12:13Speaker 3: eyes of music. Yeah, So, and I've been doing it.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Quiety what happened?
- 12:17Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's still as an executive and
- 12:20Speaker 3: even this process because what I don't like to be,
- 12:22Speaker 3: and we can get a little deep in it. I
- 12:23Speaker 3: don't like to be one of those those executives that
- 12:26Speaker 3: take advantage of people. I don't want to be some
- 12:29Speaker 3: I've never liked the vulture energy of just like, oh
- 12:31Speaker 3: I'm gonna sign this probab, I'm gonna take credit. So
- 12:33Speaker 3: what I do. I've helped a lot of artists and
- 12:35Speaker 3: I just fall back and you could tell the world
- 12:38Speaker 3: that I helped you or put you on or signed
- 12:40Speaker 3: you if you want to, but I'm not. I don't
- 12:42Speaker 3: force you to wear the incredible chain. I don't And
- 12:45Speaker 3: because that's how the industry has been set up for
- 12:48Speaker 3: so long, and now you hear all of these stories
- 12:50Speaker 3: that people saying this person took my publisher and this person.
- 12:53Speaker 3: I never got it. I've never wanted to be one
- 12:55Speaker 3: because I was an artist. So I was like, when
- 12:56Speaker 3: I get the opportunity to put people on, I'm not
- 12:58Speaker 3: going to force my hand on anyone. So the beauty
- 13:01Speaker 3: of future Superstars is I get to show the journey.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I get to show all the hard work that I
- 13:05Speaker 3: put in the artists without having to be like this
- 13:08Speaker 3: more artists and this is this, and and now when
- 13:11Speaker 3: I make those deals and get like, I'm just I
- 13:13Speaker 3: don't want your money.
- 13:15Speaker 2: I don't want you to be like Night with Sig
- 13:16Speaker 2: Knight did the Sourcial World. If you don't want an executive,
- 13:18Speaker 2: that's all in.
- 13:19Speaker 3: The videos.
- 13:22Speaker 10: Taking all your paper shit come on with incredible nah.
- 13:27Speaker 3: But in the sense it's like, I just really want
- 13:28Speaker 3: to be fair to people. And so that's the reason
- 13:30Speaker 3: why you never heard about me, you know, helping a
- 13:33Speaker 3: lot of these artists that are superstars now. But people
- 13:35Speaker 3: are like, man, you got to take your credit. You
- 13:37Speaker 3: got to show people what you do. And now because
- 13:39Speaker 3: we keep cameras around stuff all the time, I can
- 13:41Speaker 3: show people the process of this is how music executive
- 13:43Speaker 3: really moves. And so my journey, my narrative on Future Superstars,
- 13:47Speaker 3: you get to see me go from city to city
- 13:50Speaker 3: really looking for superstars. Literally every city we went to,
- 13:54Speaker 3: I gave out ten thousand dollars to an artist emerging
- 13:57Speaker 3: artist that's usually as signing bonus for life. I was
- 14:00Speaker 3: just get here's a ten thousand dollars grant. You had
- 14:01Speaker 3: to sign the grant, talk tell me why you popping
- 14:03Speaker 3: in your city. And we was literally handing out big
- 14:06Speaker 3: checks in every city to and getting them ready for
- 14:08Speaker 3: season two.
- 14:09Speaker 5: So you're on mad Post. Don't nobody know nothing.
- 14:11Speaker 3: I don't gave them money, Arlotte. They kept the publishing,
- 14:16Speaker 3: but I just said, man, hey, I want to see
- 14:18Speaker 3: you continue on. So it's one of those scenarios where
- 14:21Speaker 3: I want to pay it forward and show people that
- 14:23Speaker 3: you don't have to steal people from people. And I
- 14:26Speaker 3: think because of someone who has a talent, who has
- 14:28Speaker 3: a gift, you don't have to leach off of someone
- 14:31Speaker 3: else's gift. You could just amplify their gift. And hopefully
- 14:34Speaker 3: that's what future said.
- 14:35Speaker 5: What about her, because I mean I saw the Kalina
- 14:37Speaker 5: because I you know, I know you had Dolly doing
- 14:39Speaker 5: like a lot of this. Yeah, I didn't see her.
- 14:41Speaker 5: I never saw her.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Well interesting enough if you go back and one of
- 14:45Speaker 3: the things, because she was we kind of had them
- 14:47Speaker 3: the same time. They kind of even grew up together. Uh.
- 14:50Speaker 3: And I was real close h with with Gabby as
- 14:54Speaker 3: we know as her like her father and stuff. We
- 14:56Speaker 3: kind of grew up in the same you know, hood
- 14:58Speaker 3: and and and so I I would always her dad
- 15:02Speaker 3: actually was the one that told me that kay Lannie
- 15:04Speaker 3: was not doing someone was homeless at the time when
- 15:07Speaker 3: she was a teenager and was like, Yo, you should
- 15:08Speaker 3: call that girl that you had on America's got talent,
- 15:10Speaker 3: because we were already working with Gabby, who was nine
- 15:15Speaker 3: or ten years old and like a phenom of playing
- 15:18Speaker 3: like seven instruments or something.
- 15:19Speaker 2: We did.
- 15:20Speaker 5: Gavy was her.
- 15:20Speaker 3: Yeah, we didn't know what to do with her at
- 15:22Speaker 3: the time, and it's so funny when you're saying her
- 15:25Speaker 3: because you don't know who I'm talking about Gabby. And
- 15:32Speaker 3: then she would see we were working on kay Lannie
- 15:36Speaker 3: and she was trying to find her identity as a kid,
- 15:38Speaker 3: and she was like, yo, I wanted and I'm like, yo,
- 15:40Speaker 3: you should. Let's forget about, you know, the artistry. Just
- 15:44Speaker 3: work on the music and focus on that and we
- 15:46Speaker 3: don't even have to put an image out there. And
- 15:48Speaker 3: then that's eventually how she came up with cultivating like
- 15:51Speaker 3: not showing her face and kind of just making about
- 15:53Speaker 3: the music because her sound was so mature, like her
- 15:57Speaker 3: voice is so amazing that a lot of people are like,
- 15:59Speaker 3: that's a little girl like and we actually if you saw,
- 16:01Speaker 3: if you go back and do the research, like we
- 16:03Speaker 3: had Gabby. She was on you know those like emerging
- 16:07Speaker 3: Artists on the BET Awards as Gabby Wilson and you
- 16:10Speaker 3: see this little girl, this giant bass guitar, and you know,
- 16:13Speaker 3: she was on the Today Show and like it was
- 16:15Speaker 3: like more gimmicky. I put her in an if you look,
- 16:18Speaker 3: like there's a Nickelodeon movie that I've wrote and directed
- 16:20Speaker 3: called Schoolgirls that we put it was justin Bieber's first movie.
- 16:24Speaker 3: It was a Soldier Boys. She was one of the
- 16:26Speaker 3: little girls. And so you see the work that I
- 16:28Speaker 3: put in with these artists over the years, and then
- 16:30Speaker 3: you look up and you're like, oh damn, that was
- 16:33Speaker 3: like people pay attention, know that we was doing it.
- 16:35Speaker 3: And then by the time they become the stars that
- 16:37Speaker 3: they are, you know, some some show love, some don't.
- 16:40Speaker 3: But it's just like, yo, it's not my it's not
- 16:42Speaker 3: my place to be, Like I'm the one that gave
- 16:44Speaker 3: you your first sign. I don't want people to be
- 16:48Speaker 3: signed to me. That's what I'm saying, Like I don't
- 16:50Speaker 3: need that, Like again, like why if I can connect you,
- 16:53Speaker 3: I don't want to be your middleman. I don't need
- 16:55Speaker 3: none of your money. I don't need none of your publishing,
- 16:57Speaker 3: and not every artist that I work with him like,
- 16:59Speaker 3: I'm gonna be good whether you're successful or not. You know,
- 17:03Speaker 3: so if anything, let me be able to be a
- 17:05Speaker 3: mentor and tell you this is what I think you
- 17:07Speaker 3: should do as someone who just cares about you and
- 17:09Speaker 3: wants to see you win. When you sign somebody that
- 17:13Speaker 3: gets a little weird transaction, yeah, then it's I don't
- 17:16Speaker 3: want to have ownership over nothing that God has blessed you.
- 17:20Speaker 5: I'd rather partner. I'd rather either just do it because
- 17:21Speaker 5: I want to do it. I'd rather just partner with exactly.
- 17:24Speaker 3: And then in that partnership, I'm bringing something to the
- 17:26Speaker 3: table other than connections and all that not, like, let's
- 17:28Speaker 3: let's work on something together, and then in these things
- 17:31Speaker 3: as partnerships, we can get money together. But I don't
- 17:34Speaker 3: ever like even I think like I wouldn't want I
- 17:36Speaker 3: don't want to know if if I ain't right part
- 17:38Speaker 3: of the song on my part, I don't want nothing
- 17:39Speaker 3: that Kaylani or her or Trade two three or any
- 17:42Speaker 3: of these people that are great, amazing songwriters I don't.
- 17:46Speaker 3: I wasn't a part of that, So why should I
- 17:47Speaker 3: be Why should I be collecting on that?
- 17:49Speaker 5: Is that pressure Klondike for you, pressure as far as
- 17:53Speaker 5: because you know you hear about her story, the Kalina's story,
- 17:55Speaker 5: the pressure for you to reach them.
- 17:58Speaker 8: I mean it is, say it's pressure from that. I
- 18:01Speaker 8: just have that desire to reset level of success regardless.
- 18:06Speaker 6: No, I don't think it's pressured all.
- 18:08Speaker 4: Do you feel like you had your I made it moment?
- 18:10Speaker 8: Yet I feel like I accomplished everything I said I
- 18:14Speaker 8: was gonna do as a kid. But being here and
- 18:16Speaker 8: seeing that like I accomplished those things that I.
- 18:18Speaker 6: Still see that I have way further to go.
- 18:20Speaker 8: So I don't think in my head that like I'm
- 18:23Speaker 8: where exactly where I need to be.
- 18:24Speaker 4: But you're definitely gonna right track.
- 18:26Speaker 6: But I'm on the right Yeah, you definitely be almost there.
- 18:27Speaker 5: Yeah, So why why did you just focus on music? Though?
- 18:31Speaker 5: With future Superstars, I think we're.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Gonna I mean that's just the first show that I
- 18:35Speaker 3: rolled out. You'll see a lot more stuff. I mean
- 18:37Speaker 3: obviously in the space of you know, comedy is where
- 18:39Speaker 3: you know we get off really well and you know,
- 18:42Speaker 3: platforms like wild'n Out has birthed so many stars, so
- 18:45Speaker 3: I don't I have that place where I can implement
- 18:48Speaker 3: social media stars and even comedians and actors because wild'n
- 18:52Speaker 3: out is going to continue to go and do do
- 18:54Speaker 3: what it needs to do. So I feel like I
- 18:55Speaker 3: have that lane. And again, part of the music thing
- 18:58Speaker 3: for me was people didn't know that I was. There's
- 18:59Speaker 3: a lot of people like Nick Cannon does music. And
- 19:01Speaker 3: then then so the fact that is like see this
- 19:05Speaker 3: motherfucker over here, when even just the word music, like
- 19:09Speaker 3: before I was rapper, music like this music is something
- 19:16Speaker 3: every project, all of my successful projects Charlotte Mane have
- 19:20Speaker 3: music in them, and I'm a.
- 19:21Speaker 5: Musical gospel song with Kim Brell.
- 19:29Speaker 3: I was lying.
- 19:31Speaker 5: I just was like, you know what, I'm not gonna
- 19:32Speaker 5: do them like that.
- 19:33Speaker 10: And I'm not even talking about being I'm like, so
- 19:40Speaker 10: like mass singer America's got talent absolutely all music based stuff.
- 19:45Speaker 3: Wild'n out every like and I say this all the time.
- 19:48Speaker 3: I make all the music on wild'n Out, But it's
- 19:50Speaker 3: just like people just they see the aspect of like
- 19:54Speaker 3: every drum line, like every like everything that I do
- 19:56Speaker 3: has a musical vibration to it. It's just that, you know,
- 20:01Speaker 3: for whatever reason, because the motherfucker's like this. The narrative
- 20:04Speaker 3: is that I haven't been successful.
- 20:06Speaker 5: Nothing to do with me.
- 20:07Speaker 11: You, you're the corporate you.
- 20:10Speaker 3: I only say rap. I don't feel just said music.
- 20:13Speaker 3: You see how the fucking media, I'll take the rap
- 20:17Speaker 3: ships back like but now it's like now I'm not
- 20:21Speaker 3: Now I'm not successful in music like those things though,
- 20:24Speaker 3: But that's why that's the whole purpose of Future Superstar
- 20:26Speaker 3: in itself. Like we joking, we're friends and ship like that,
- 20:28Speaker 3: but it really is educating people to the space of like, yo,
- 20:32Speaker 3: I've been a music executive for over twenty years, but.
- 20:34Speaker 2: Do you think you overworking? We know you had health
- 20:37Speaker 2: issues before. Yeah, but you it don't seem like you
- 20:40Speaker 2: slow down. It seemed like that made you work harderly.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Gave me more. I mean, ship the clocks start taking
- 20:44Speaker 3: faster like it gave me, like yo, I really had
- 20:47Speaker 3: to get serious in that sense of like yo, all right,
- 20:49Speaker 3: let's it's bandwidth more than anything. It's like, all right,
- 20:52Speaker 3: I got a lot to do. You know, God ain't
- 20:53Speaker 3: done with me. He's He's blessed me. With the opportunity
- 20:56Speaker 3: to have gone through some real ship and now it's like,
- 20:58Speaker 3: all right, now, let's get you health together. Let's lock
- 21:01Speaker 3: in and really focus and make the most of your time.
- 21:03Speaker 3: So every day that I wake up healthy and shit
- 21:05Speaker 3: don't hurt, it's like I got to get to it.
- 21:06Speaker 3: Like that's the blessing in itself.
- 21:08Speaker 5: So do you really think like, I mean, we're all dying, right,
- 21:10Speaker 5: you never know, but you really think like the.
- 21:13Speaker 3: Hell yeah, especially like during that time it got dark,
- 21:16Speaker 3: like during like you know, twenty twelve to even like
- 21:19Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, cause I didn't know and I couldn't get
- 21:21Speaker 3: the shit right. So every time I got one thing rightly,
- 21:25Speaker 3: I get a blood clot here or a pulmonary embolism.
- 21:28Speaker 3: I couldn't like my lungs.
- 21:29Speaker 5: Like.
- 21:29Speaker 3: So once I got to this space of like, all right,
- 21:32Speaker 3: I figured out, you know, how to stay healthy and
- 21:36Speaker 3: how to stay alive, then it's like that's the constant
- 21:39Speaker 3: reminder of like you gotta do something with this. You
- 21:41Speaker 3: got to turn your pain into purpose, And for me
- 21:44Speaker 3: that became helping others, like and you know, you go
- 21:48Speaker 3: through this this spiritual transition of like all the things
- 21:52Speaker 3: that feed me are probably not the best for me.
- 21:55Speaker 3: But when I'm feeding others, that's when I feel the healthiest,
- 21:59Speaker 3: That's when I feel the drive to do so. Now
- 22:03Speaker 3: I live in that space, I'm like, all right, what
- 22:04Speaker 3: can I do to make the world a better place?
- 22:07Speaker 3: What can I do to lend a hand to the
- 22:09Speaker 3: next artist? And you know that's you know, that's that
- 22:13Speaker 3: that's that healthy journey for me to where it gives
- 22:15Speaker 3: me that drive because I don't feel like I'm busy.
- 22:17Speaker 3: I don't feel like I'm doing too much. I feel like, yo,
- 22:20Speaker 3: this is this is my calling. This is where I'm
- 22:22Speaker 3: supposed to go with it. So, you know, hopefully, however
- 22:25Speaker 3: many more years I got left I keep rocking.
- 22:27Speaker 5: Was that the reason you started having so many kids?
- 22:29Speaker 3: People say that I don't know, like if I if
- 22:32Speaker 3: I took the spiritual.
- 22:33Speaker 1: You might have said it in an interviewer, joked around.
- 22:38Speaker 3: But if I'm being serious, it wasn't like I set
- 22:42Speaker 3: out to do it. It probably got to that space
- 22:44Speaker 3: of like, I value being a father, I value life,
- 22:47Speaker 3: So I was I was never against the concept. And
- 22:49Speaker 3: if we want to have deeper conversations about you know,
- 22:53Speaker 3: like what I talk about in therapy and even as
- 22:55Speaker 3: as men. It's like there are those times and we've
- 23:00Speaker 3: been you know, I call it access to access. I
- 23:02Speaker 3: have the ability to do my thing and pro and
- 23:08Speaker 3: a lot of others. Probably I could I could have stopped,
- 23:12Speaker 3: you know, and and or even not had the children,
- 23:16Speaker 3: but I was welcoming the idea of it and was
- 23:19Speaker 3: never against it. So you know, I've worked through a
- 23:21Speaker 3: lot of that through therapy of like, yeah, I love
- 23:25Speaker 3: being a father, I love the life that they give
- 23:29Speaker 3: me life. But and I could have made some other decisions,
- 23:32Speaker 3: you know, with the mothers of my children, but I
- 23:34Speaker 3: was one of those things, like I want to have
- 23:37Speaker 3: these kids and as many kids as I possibly can,
- 23:39Speaker 3: because you know, I come from that mentality of like,
- 23:43Speaker 3: as long as I could take care of my tribe
- 23:46Speaker 3: and we can live in an abundant way, that's how
- 23:49Speaker 3: I want to be there. And then you know, you
- 23:50Speaker 3: we go through those you know, everybody has challenges, you know,
- 23:55Speaker 3: and nobody it's I don't want everybody to feel like, oh,
- 23:58Speaker 3: I got it all the way figured out and I'm
- 23:59Speaker 3: just out here having babies and everybody's good, like, but
- 24:02Speaker 3: every family goes through their process and you know whether
- 24:05Speaker 3: you want to be from a judgmental standpoint or whatever,
- 24:07Speaker 3: it's like you you cannot deny the love that goes
- 24:12Speaker 3: on and how much I care for my family, and
- 24:15Speaker 3: you know, hopefully you know at the end of the day,
- 24:17Speaker 3: the only people that would be able to tell you
- 24:19Speaker 3: if I was a good dad or not are my children.
- 24:22Speaker 1: How do you feel about that with people being so judgmental,
- 24:24Speaker 1: you know, saying that you have so many kids, and
- 24:26Speaker 1: how people possibly raise these kids and be at their
- 24:29Speaker 1: games and be at their recitals and.
- 24:32Speaker 3: Watch me do the work like there's I don't And
- 24:35Speaker 3: that's what I said. At the end of the day,
- 24:36Speaker 3: the only people that really matter, the only opinion is
- 24:38Speaker 3: going to be my kids and I. Through therapy, It's
- 24:42Speaker 3: like I've realized at some point, you know, I'm not
- 24:44Speaker 3: gonna get it right every time. But as everybody knows
- 24:47Speaker 3: that I'm doing my best and being the best father
- 24:51Speaker 3: that I can possibly be considering the circumstances, then and
- 24:55Speaker 3: I live that, I stick my chest out of it.
- 24:57Speaker 3: It's gonna be sometimes I fall flat, like am I did?
- 25:00Speaker 5: I did?
- 25:01Speaker 3: I didn't do that one correctly. This is more challenging
- 25:03Speaker 3: if I if I wasn't spread so thin, but it's
- 25:07Speaker 3: all rooted in the space of like, I'm trying to
- 25:09Speaker 3: give you my all and I'm trying to be my best.
- 25:11Speaker 3: So regardless, you know, I say people say, people's opinions
- 25:15Speaker 3: about me is none of my business. And and if anything,
- 25:18Speaker 3: I take that that low frequency energy and shifted to
- 25:21Speaker 3: where it's like I keep talking because I'm doing the work.
- 25:24Speaker 3: How you? How are you?
- 25:28Speaker 5: Is it low frequency energy? If people say, Nick, why
- 25:30Speaker 5: don't you wear.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Con Who told you? I don't wear condom?
- 25:39Speaker 2: You use the kindom you need?
- 25:41Speaker 3: Your first of all, Jesus, I could have had a
- 25:44Speaker 3: lot more. Do you want more? But because of condoms?
- 25:47Speaker 5: There is there if you don't win, No damn coms.
- 25:50Speaker 5: Ain't nobody here crazy.
- 25:51Speaker 1: I don't believe I don't believe you.
- 25:54Speaker 3: I worked on the mind. Matter of fact, I not
- 25:57Speaker 3: mind having more. You know, here is the way you.
- 26:04Speaker 11: Question the question, the interview, the internet.
- 26:18Speaker 2: But how do you Christmas?
- 26:22Speaker 3: I mean I joked, I say all I'm Saint Nick
- 26:24Speaker 3: and everything, but it's really structured in a way to
- 26:26Speaker 3: where those you know, I kind of take that week
- 26:29Speaker 3: and turn it into Christmas week, you know, And and
- 26:33Speaker 3: there is because I'm traveling and flying like I'm trying
- 26:37Speaker 3: to be every everybody. And even Thanksgiving was the same way.
- 26:39Speaker 3: I was in five six different Thanksgivings at the time,
- 26:42Speaker 3: because it's not it's my mom's, because my grandmother's.
- 26:45Speaker 2: Say, twenty minutes, thirty minutes, I mean dinner.
- 26:50Speaker 3: You got to hear that, y'all play spas. I'm out
- 26:52Speaker 3: to the next time you eat. I mean, I'm taking everybody.
- 26:57Speaker 3: You know, everybody looked different. So one thing, my white
- 27:02Speaker 3: baby mom, I'm not really eating.
- 27:09Speaker 9: But they got cancer rolls.
- 27:16Speaker 3: It's differ between pumpkin pies.
- 27:18Speaker 5: We take one of your baby mom's breef. She said,
- 27:21Speaker 5: how you juggle your twelve kids for the holidays is
- 27:24Speaker 5: your problem, and I don't.
- 27:26Speaker 3: See it as a problem. I think she was saying,
- 27:27Speaker 3: like that's it is, but it's I don't involve her,
- 27:30Speaker 3: like sheel like.
- 27:31Speaker 5: The baby mom's got to make it eaty for you too, right.
- 27:33Speaker 3: They do. And that's what I like, I said, I
- 27:35Speaker 3: give them credit to where like even in the process
- 27:37Speaker 3: of like they say, this is what we want, and
- 27:40Speaker 3: it's everything from Christmas pictures, the slid riding the pictures
- 27:43Speaker 3: with saying that our experiences, like I make sure that
- 27:46Speaker 3: every kid who wants to do something or we have
- 27:49Speaker 3: certain things set up, we make time to go do it.
- 27:51Speaker 3: So it's almost in that thing like, look, we want
- 27:53Speaker 3: to do these six things for Christmas. They want to
- 27:56Speaker 3: do these things. So I'm kind of again it's I'm
- 27:59Speaker 3: all over the damn but it's fun. I mean, y'all
- 28:01Speaker 3: see my ig you see me, Like I'm at I'm
- 28:03Speaker 3: at the Grinch Smiths one day, I'm over here, you know,
- 28:06Speaker 3: Candy Cane Lane the other day. And it's really like
- 28:08Speaker 3: my kids are having an amazing time and it's and
- 28:10Speaker 3: it's not to be performative. It's just like, yo, this
- 28:13Speaker 3: is my life and we're fucking having a ball. Like nigga,
- 28:16Speaker 3: you know much money I spend at Disneyland a year?
- 28:19Speaker 3: Imagine nigga, I got six.
- 28:21Speaker 2: So I comment.
- 28:24Speaker 3: The crazy thing is because I used to hold Christmas
- 28:27Speaker 3: Morning at Disneyland, and so I used to get that
- 28:29Speaker 3: Disney bag like it was like and it was they
- 28:32Speaker 3: were perks, so all of that stuff was free. It's
- 28:36Speaker 3: no longer free. And I had two kids then, so
- 28:39Speaker 3: like to be twelve and every birthday christ like I'm
- 28:42Speaker 3: literally at Disneyland at least once a month, and to
- 28:45Speaker 3: move around Disney like I probably I'm probably spending two
- 28:50Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars.
- 28:51Speaker 5: A year.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Cause you got pack for the chaperone you got.
- 28:56Speaker 3: Disneyland is expensive at the top, like if you're trying
- 28:59Speaker 3: to stay in the hotel and now it's it's not
- 29:02Speaker 3: how it used to be, Like you gotta make reservations
- 29:04Speaker 3: and stuff. But so I spending two hundred thousand dollars
- 29:08Speaker 3: a year at Disneyland.
- 29:09Speaker 4: You need to give you like a membership or something.
- 29:11Speaker 3: I used to be an employee. I'm like, Mickey, can't
- 29:16Speaker 3: you look up? Can I get back in my job?
- 29:20Speaker 5: What job?
- 29:20Speaker 3: I need back?
- 29:21Speaker 5: Thinking to man, And it's the last thing I'm gonna
- 29:23Speaker 5: say about this. I think it is your duty because
- 29:25Speaker 5: you are a man. That is the service. Yes, you
- 29:27Speaker 5: should tell people what kind of condoms do you know?
- 29:30Speaker 5: Nobody else? You should tell people choice.
- 29:36Speaker 3: Again, First of all, I like the gold Rappers, that's
- 29:39Speaker 3: where it is, and those work very well. I none
- 29:42Speaker 3: of my children came from a condom mishap. They were
- 29:47Speaker 3: purpose fault.
- 29:48Speaker 4: They were playing went wrong on purpose.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Yes, don't you go wrong on purpose? But I'm married. Yes,
- 29:53Speaker 3: as you should know what I'm saying during those times
- 29:55Speaker 3: you go wrong on purpose. I have never unprotected sex
- 30:01Speaker 3: with someone that I didn't intend to view it right like,
- 30:05Speaker 3: I know if I'm having unprotected sex that this person
- 30:07Speaker 3: could get pregnant.
- 30:09Speaker 5: Look like a jail bab.
- 30:13Speaker 10: You conversation about talking to you really feel that way?
- 30:22Speaker 3: I'm a I'm a fearless romantic. Just tag it on
- 30:25Speaker 3: my shoulder.
- 30:25Speaker 2: There's any woman that that you had a child with?
- 30:27Speaker 1: Did they feel like they were gonna stop you from
- 30:30Speaker 1: doing it and you were gonna be the one?
- 30:31Speaker 3: Did y'all ever have just them? I mean, uh, it's
- 30:35Speaker 3: funny like dreams. She's taking it off.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Saying there one of them had to feel like they
- 30:46Speaker 2: could change you would change it.
- 30:47Speaker 3: Because the women in my life are so amazing that
- 30:50Speaker 3: they are elevated in the sense that they never tried
- 30:53Speaker 3: to change. They knew what it was and it wasn't
- 30:55Speaker 3: like it was just a process because all of them
- 30:58Speaker 3: started off as true companions and I look at them now,
- 31:01Speaker 3: it's like those are the people I talk to, like
- 31:03Speaker 3: in that sense of not on like some poly you
- 31:06Speaker 3: know idea, but like those are the only that's my circle.
- 31:09Speaker 3: That's who I That's who I go to when I'm
- 31:11Speaker 3: having issues because the world a lot of times is
- 31:14Speaker 3: against us, so like we gotta stick together in a
- 31:16Speaker 3: sense of like they I gotta protect them and they
- 31:19Speaker 3: got to protect me. Even not to generalize them as
- 31:22Speaker 3: a group, but just individually, those are the people that
- 31:24Speaker 3: I go to when I'm depressed, when I'm fucked up
- 31:26Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, I don't know how I'm how
- 31:28Speaker 3: am I going to do it this month or what?
- 31:30Speaker 3: And they take they see that I only got so
- 31:33Speaker 3: much in me, you know what I mean. So when
- 31:35Speaker 3: they see I'm a little depleted and I need to
- 31:36Speaker 3: unplug for a second, those are the people that I rely.
- 31:39Speaker 7: So what if it baby Mama's decided to start dating?
- 31:41Speaker 7: Like is that an issue?
- 31:42Speaker 3: Some of them are relationships and stuff like that. I
- 31:44Speaker 3: don't know that. I don't run this like it's not
- 31:47Speaker 3: like this is my kingdom, Like it's whoever you want
- 31:50Speaker 3: to be, whatever makes you happy. I support it, and
- 31:53Speaker 3: I guess maybe I'm I've kind of evolved to a
- 31:56Speaker 3: place where I'm not driven by that. Now, obviously the
- 31:59Speaker 3: interaction is going to be completely different because somebody I'm
- 32:02Speaker 3: romantically involved with or intimate with, I'm gonna have a
- 32:05Speaker 3: certain level of connection with them than I do with
- 32:07Speaker 3: somebody I don't, and I just co parent with So
- 32:10Speaker 3: even at you know, at the highest level, you know,
- 32:12Speaker 3: the world has witnessed, you know, Mariah be in relationships
- 32:15Speaker 3: and it's always been loved. That's somebody that I've always
- 32:19Speaker 3: admired and considered one of my best friends for life.
- 32:21Speaker 3: And there was never beef whether she's in a relationship
- 32:24Speaker 3: or not. So I don't have a problem with I.
- 32:27Speaker 3: And I go back to how I always talk when
- 32:29Speaker 3: I was like I only I like who liked me?
- 32:31Speaker 3: Like if you park with me, I'm fucking with you.
- 32:33Speaker 3: If you how some someone else, then that's what the
- 32:35Speaker 3: energy is. So I've never tried to push myself into
- 32:38Speaker 3: a scenario that I'm not welcoming. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
- 32:45Speaker 3: she's I've seen her do interviews about it. She it
- 32:48Speaker 3: doesn't reach her, it doesn't penetrate her. Bubble got you,
- 32:52Speaker 3: you know what I mean? She got she got so
- 32:54Speaker 3: much going on. That's the Queen of Christmas, right she
- 32:57Speaker 3: She treats me like j Lo, like who I don't
- 33:01Speaker 3: know him? Like, what are your.
- 33:05Speaker 5: Thoughts on all of this? When you hear this, Yeah,
- 33:09Speaker 5: what are your thoughts?
- 33:11Speaker 4: She's like, I'm for the music.
- 33:12Speaker 8: I mean I think if I was a dude, I
- 33:15Speaker 8: might be living the same life.
- 33:16Speaker 6: So it.
- 33:21Speaker 8: Like and then you're talking about like they like your backbone,
- 33:24Speaker 8: you depressed stuff like, that's a lot of support, that's fire,
- 33:28Speaker 8: a lot of support. Right, I feel you name, But
- 33:35Speaker 8: let's talk Nick.
- 33:37Speaker 2: Want to get married? Do you look at you again?
- 33:40Speaker 3: Absolutely? I mean because last time I got I used
- 33:44Speaker 3: my words incorrectly. Last time we was having conversations, i'd
- 33:46Speaker 3: be forgetting the mixes on and ship and I said
- 33:49Speaker 3: it was a eurocentric concept with what I really meant
- 33:53Speaker 3: is the colonial aspect of marriage. It's it's a business,
- 33:58Speaker 3: and I've been in that business before. I don't want
- 34:01Speaker 3: to be in that business no more. It's so much paperwork.
- 34:03Speaker 3: I don't want the government to be involved with my
- 34:06Speaker 3: love life. I shouldn't have to have a legal document
- 34:10Speaker 3: or a contractor to let someone know how much I
- 34:12Speaker 3: care for them. Now. I want to be their protector
- 34:13Speaker 3: and that provider. It's kind of like the child support system.
- 34:17Speaker 3: If you take care of your children, there's no need
- 34:20Speaker 3: for paperwork because I want I want my kids to
- 34:24Speaker 3: have everything that I own I want. I don't want
- 34:27Speaker 3: them to go without at all. I want them to
- 34:29Speaker 3: live an abundant life. So I don't need the government
- 34:32Speaker 3: to tell me the minimum that I need to pay,
- 34:33Speaker 3: because I'm gonna give them the maximum. So same thing
- 34:36Speaker 3: with love and marriage. If I fuck with you for life,
- 34:40Speaker 3: I don't need to be binded by a contract or
- 34:43Speaker 3: a ring. And therefore that's in the way those contracts
- 34:46Speaker 3: are designed. That's from a Roman Catholicism approach of how
- 34:52Speaker 3: we do it. There's ways to have unions and covenants
- 34:55Speaker 3: and marriages through so many other philosophies in life. Specifically,
- 34:58Speaker 3: you know in our African community from the diaspora, they
- 35:02Speaker 3: do it differently, and you know, I'm learning and understanding
- 35:06Speaker 3: those processes, but I know you go over to the continent,
- 35:10Speaker 3: it ain't about contracts, it ain't about paperwork and rings.
- 35:13Speaker 3: It's like, nah, this is this is my wife. This
- 35:16Speaker 3: is my wife, and however that moves around. So the
- 35:18Speaker 3: concept of the American society marriage, I'll never do that again.
- 35:23Speaker 3: But who's to say I can't find a life partner
- 35:26Speaker 3: that I'm a rock with. I'm we an old like
- 35:29Speaker 3: I'm were in that state where it's like, by the
- 35:31Speaker 3: time I'm in my sixties, I want to be on
- 35:33Speaker 3: an island or the top of a mountain in Tibet
- 35:35Speaker 3: somewhere with somebody I could rock with forever.
- 35:37Speaker 5: So I'm living like Kim Lyles actually told me a
- 35:41Speaker 5: long time ago. He said, I can't tell you to
- 35:42Speaker 5: get married, but I can tell you should always have
- 35:44Speaker 5: somebody to share your experiences with. I fuck with that
- 35:47Speaker 5: heavy like that.
- 35:49Speaker 3: I can see myself doing that. And then the fact
- 35:51Speaker 3: that people are like, oh, aren't you worried about getting lonely,
- 35:53Speaker 3: Like I got twelve kids, ain't never gonna be moving
- 35:56Speaker 3: somebody coming over, like But even with that, that's scary
- 35:59Speaker 3: too though, right because something where it said you spend
- 36:02Speaker 3: seventy percent of all the time you're ever gonna spend
- 36:05Speaker 3: with your kids between one and eighteen, And.
- 36:08Speaker 5: When you think about it, that's truly true. How many
- 36:10Speaker 5: times you've probably seen your parents after you get it
- 36:13Speaker 5: an become an adult and you're out in the world
- 36:15Speaker 5: trying to pick things out.
- 36:16Speaker 3: And then even when you think about like the time
- 36:17Speaker 3: that they spend at school and sports and stuff like that.
- 36:19Speaker 3: There's other people with your children throughout the day more
- 36:22Speaker 3: than you are. And I'm learning that too, because I'm
- 36:24Speaker 3: trying to be present at all of these games, and
- 36:26Speaker 3: you know, I'm picking them up from school and knowing
- 36:29Speaker 3: the teachers and spending time at the recitals, and it's like,
- 36:32Speaker 3: I want them to at least see my presence there
- 36:34Speaker 3: because I know there's gonna be a time where I'm
- 36:36Speaker 3: on a film set for two months, There's gonna be
- 36:38Speaker 3: time where I'm on tour over here. So I want
- 36:40Speaker 3: them to see me every free time that I can.
- 36:43Speaker 3: Because when you think about the person with the average
- 36:45Speaker 3: person with a nine to five from eight am to
- 36:50Speaker 3: three of them, they are under the supervision of a
- 36:52Speaker 3: completely different adult. And then even by the time you
- 36:55Speaker 3: get get to where you tired, they tired. You might
- 36:58Speaker 3: get to see your kids what from six to eight
- 37:01Speaker 3: and then y'all sleep and then again like so like
- 37:05Speaker 3: the average because with my with my therapist, we've done
- 37:09Speaker 3: the math on it. The average time that a parent
- 37:12Speaker 3: spends with their kids a day's less than three hours.
- 37:16Speaker 3: And then when you think about it, like that's why
- 37:17Speaker 3: weekends are so important, that's why vacations are so important
- 37:20Speaker 3: because that's when they really get to know you, and
- 37:23Speaker 3: that's when you really get to it's all. It's about
- 37:25Speaker 3: the qualitative approach, and it's really about creating as many
- 37:28Speaker 3: core memories in that amount of time that you possibly.
- 37:30Speaker 5: Your therapist talks about average parent, you ain't talking about your.
- 37:33Speaker 3: No because clearly, but that's what to me. I'm trying
- 37:36Speaker 3: to go above and beyond when it comes to that
- 37:38Speaker 3: that parenting aspect because I'm trying to create the best
- 37:40Speaker 3: core memories as possible, because core memories can be in
- 37:43Speaker 3: a positive light or in a negative light. So you know,
- 37:45Speaker 3: I don't ever and that that's all about keeping your word.
- 37:48Speaker 3: That's all about managing expectations because if I tell my
- 37:51Speaker 3: kids something, I'm gonna make sure I do it. And
- 37:53Speaker 3: and you know, obviously I have a strong support team
- 37:57Speaker 3: that helped me accomplish a lot of that. But again,
- 38:00Speaker 3: you know, is as important as it is to sit
- 38:02Speaker 3: back and analyze these things through therapy. And I mean
- 38:06Speaker 3: you know this very well. It's like you're constantly trying
- 38:08Speaker 3: to grow. You're constantly trying to figure out how can
- 38:10Speaker 3: I be a better dad? And considering the circumstance.
- 38:13Speaker 2: We'll put you in therapy. Was it that dark time
- 38:15Speaker 2: or a.
- 38:16Speaker 3: Lot of it? I mean I started growing to therapy
- 38:18Speaker 3: early on with like church, you know, and you and
- 38:22Speaker 3: that that's not I don't say that's not real therapy,
- 38:24Speaker 3: but that's like your entry, you know, way to be like, oh,
- 38:27Speaker 3: I can sit and talk with a pastor social groups
- 38:30Speaker 3: that kind of understand what we're going through. And then
- 38:33Speaker 3: I start going to facilities of incarceration prisons when I
- 38:36Speaker 3: was about I think it's two thousand and seven. We
- 38:38Speaker 3: started doing a lot of group therapy through that process,
- 38:41Speaker 3: and then I saw how these you know, young brothers
- 38:44Speaker 3: and sisters were really growing, and I was like, I'm
- 38:47Speaker 3: getting so much out of this and even watching this experience.
- 38:50Speaker 3: And then through relationship, like I started doing that probably
- 38:55Speaker 3: maybe five years after that, started working through it. And
- 38:58Speaker 3: then you know, once my health really sorry, I really
- 39:01Speaker 3: needed somebody to talk to because I ain't know if
- 39:03Speaker 3: I was gonna be living or dying and all that stuff,
- 39:05Speaker 3: and so I really really started taking a series like
- 39:08Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, and I mean, I know you're a huge
- 39:11Speaker 3: advocate for it. We got a new we got a
- 39:13Speaker 3: new platform that we're launching at the top of the year.
- 39:14Speaker 3: That's specifically about men in therapy and being vulnerable and
- 39:17Speaker 3: talking about you know, these processes.
- 39:19Speaker 5: But I was it like an apple or something.
- 39:22Speaker 3: It's an app, but it's also it's a new sho.
- 39:24Speaker 3: I'm gonna come back and talk about that one. That
- 39:26Speaker 3: one too, But it's it's it's something that where it's
- 39:29Speaker 3: it's something that you and I share pretty pretty deeply.
- 39:33Speaker 3: But man, I'm in therapy probably I probably go four
- 39:36Speaker 3: times a week. Wow, Yeah, I got one therapist I go.
- 39:39Speaker 3: I see on Tuesday, what is it Tuesdays and Fridays.
- 39:43Speaker 3: Tuesdays and Fridays is my my personal I'm talking and
- 39:48Speaker 3: downloading in. There's you know, I do family therapy, you
- 39:51Speaker 3: know where I bring my children in in certain aspects.
- 39:53Speaker 3: And then even you know, there's a holistic approach. I
- 39:56Speaker 3: talk to a lot of you know, Shamans and things
- 39:58Speaker 3: that just getting different perspectives and you know, those conversations
- 40:01Speaker 3: that you have with pastors. And then this new project
- 40:03Speaker 3: that I'm talking about, it's kind of I mean, I'll
- 40:05Speaker 3: kind of give you a little bit of it, but
- 40:07Speaker 3: it's a it's a table, it's a setting a mend
- 40:08Speaker 3: with professionals. So I have a lot of doctors and
- 40:11Speaker 3: psychologists that are you know, and clinicians that are actually
- 40:14Speaker 3: speaking to issues that men are doing.
- 40:16Speaker 5: So I have got to let me recommend you a
- 40:18Speaker 5: couple of names. Yeah, I know a couple of psychiatrists
- 40:21Speaker 5: that you should definitely have on come on, man, that's
- 40:24Speaker 5: absolutely yeah.
- 40:25Speaker 3: Yeah. And there's people that we all both know, like
- 40:27Speaker 3: like the doctor issues of the world and things like that.
- 40:29Speaker 3: So he was a part of He was the psychiatrist
- 40:32Speaker 3: I used for my books exactly. So he's one of
- 40:36Speaker 3: my co hosts on that show and stuff. So well,
- 40:38Speaker 3: we'll bring all of that to the table. But the importance, man,
- 40:40Speaker 3: that's why I applaud you. And and you know, you've
- 40:43Speaker 3: kind of been living your life out loud and showing
- 40:46Speaker 3: your growth and your process and with you know how
- 40:48Speaker 3: important mental health is, and and you've I'm sure you've
- 40:52Speaker 3: helped so many men and just people in general. Just
- 40:55Speaker 3: we're all going through something. We all got challenges. And
- 40:58Speaker 3: then when you can actually just be like I can't
- 41:01Speaker 3: handle it today, you know what I mean, and like
- 41:03Speaker 3: that those pressures and we've all actually lost people who
- 41:06Speaker 3: are very quiet and then we said, Damn, I wish
- 41:09Speaker 3: I would have known her. Damn I wish I could
- 41:11Speaker 3: he And that's even you know, taking it back to
- 41:13Speaker 3: klon Dake Blond. If you watch her episode of Future Superstars' likes,
- 41:18Speaker 3: it's cute, it's fun, and you see her sitting there
- 41:20Speaker 3: with you know, her her dog as she calls her son,
- 41:23Speaker 3: and she's like, this is my emotional but it's legitimately
- 41:28Speaker 3: her emotional support animal because of all that she's gone
- 41:31Speaker 3: through in her life. And you see like, through the
- 41:33Speaker 3: love of that animal, through her music, she's been able
- 41:36Speaker 3: to stay alive. And it's like that process because I
- 41:40Speaker 3: have had artists that I've worked with that have taken
- 41:43Speaker 3: their lives and I had no idea it got to
- 41:45Speaker 3: that level. I had artists that were on that point
- 41:48Speaker 3: and right because someone intervened or because they actually said,
- 41:53Speaker 3: oh you should check on that person. Yeah, I mean,
- 41:57Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to get too deep into who the
- 41:59Speaker 3: person was. But even the person that you look up
- 42:01Speaker 3: to that you admire, the people's music you love, they
- 42:04Speaker 3: going through it. And we got to create this community
- 42:07Speaker 3: that we can be there for one another. And it's
- 42:09Speaker 3: not soft to do it or it's not like, oh man,
- 42:13Speaker 3: I was busy and I didn't get a chance to
- 42:15Speaker 3: and then we now have this deep hurt, in this
- 42:18Speaker 3: deep regret because we could have made the phone call,
- 42:21Speaker 3: or we could have been a little gentler when in
- 42:23Speaker 3: the process of like, damn, you really going through.
- 42:25Speaker 4: It and it costs nothing to be kind to people.
- 42:27Speaker 5: There it is. I saw the Maskutty Murphy too to
- 42:29Speaker 5: give you some advice, did you see that?
- 42:31Speaker 3: I love it. I was waiting for their advice.
- 42:35Speaker 4: Absolutely, not.
- 42:42Speaker 3: Eddie quick too, because he was I look up to
- 42:44Speaker 3: the Eddie Murphy's, to the Bob Marley's, to the Muhammad Ali's,
- 42:47Speaker 3: to all, to the Doctor Saves, to all these people
- 42:50Speaker 3: who have giant families and providing for them all in
- 42:54Speaker 3: all of their When you talk to anybody in Muhammad
- 42:57Speaker 3: Ali's camp, anybody in the Marley family, anybody, they love
- 43:00Speaker 3: their father so much and they like, man, my father
- 43:03Speaker 3: was amazing like that. I hope and pray people look
- 43:06Speaker 3: at me the way or my children look at me,
- 43:09Speaker 3: the way that Eddie's children look at him. I hope
- 43:12Speaker 3: and pray that you know the way that people admire
- 43:15Speaker 3: Muhammad Ali is the father that he was like, that's
- 43:18Speaker 3: hopefully you know, ten fifteen years from now, my children
- 43:21Speaker 3: are saying those type of things about me.
- 43:23Speaker 5: Do you do you consult with other men who have
- 43:25Speaker 5: multiple kids? Yeah?
- 43:27Speaker 3: Not at that level. I'm not, like I said, I
- 43:28Speaker 3: haven't talked to Eddie, you know what I mean, other
- 43:30Speaker 3: than like him keep going, you know what I mean
- 43:34Speaker 3: as it, But like I haven't. I haven't had the
- 43:36Speaker 3: opportunity yet. But I you know, I've had conversations with
- 43:40Speaker 3: men who have multiple children. Who's saying, like, man, I
- 43:44Speaker 3: understand what you're going through. And you know there's people
- 43:47Speaker 3: that have come Dick Gregory with somebody, I mean, who
- 43:50Speaker 3: I believe I think he had, like I think I
- 43:52Speaker 3: had nine kids and stuff, but I was able to
- 43:54Speaker 3: with all his children are amazing, all you know, older
- 43:57Speaker 3: than me and people that you know, I look up to.
- 43:59Speaker 3: But just his process and being a father to multiple people.
- 44:02Speaker 3: And then there's an areas like you know mine is
- 44:04Speaker 3: like the reason why I was so shocked to me
- 44:06Speaker 3: like at thirty, I didn't have no kids, you know,
- 44:09Speaker 3: but now sitting here, I got twelve. So yeah yeah,
- 44:12Speaker 3: so yeah, so so they happened, you know, quickly, and
- 44:16Speaker 3: at the same time, it wasn't all with the same woman,
- 44:18Speaker 3: so you know, it's a little unique in my setting,
- 44:21Speaker 3: but trying to figure it out.
- 44:23Speaker 5: Wow. Two more questions. What jokes do you get tired of?
- 44:25Speaker 5: More jokes about your music or jokes about Mariah?
- 44:28Speaker 3: I don't, honestly, only comfort those are old jokes. The
- 44:33Speaker 3: new ones is like probably more. Now it's all about
- 44:35Speaker 3: the kid jokes like Bill Maher and all of them
- 44:39Speaker 3: on every late night show. Like it's the multiple kid jokes.
- 44:42Speaker 3: So I ain't tired of those yet. But I got
- 44:44Speaker 3: to keep giving my wild outcast some more material. So
- 44:48Speaker 3: we got a.
- 44:49Speaker 1: Producer that works here. Charlamage says he's the president of
- 44:51Speaker 1: the Fat Live Matter movement. Yes, he says, out of
- 44:55Speaker 1: all of the overweight media male cast members you've had
- 44:58Speaker 1: on this show, who is your favorite?
- 45:00Speaker 2: They gotta be fat mat fat Man, fat Man.
- 45:03Speaker 3: That's I told.
- 45:06Speaker 11: Him, there's a better name than big Mac.
- 45:09Speaker 5: You don't want them to be fat fever.
- 45:10Speaker 3: We don't. We got we got it, but and that
- 45:14Speaker 3: we we gotta pay for his surgery.
- 45:16Speaker 5: If you can get a week, that's the thing.
- 45:18Speaker 3: But when you lose your fat, you lose your funny.
- 45:21Speaker 4: Do you think so, because something like the Big.
- 45:25Speaker 3: There's a bunch of fat, and I'm not telling you
- 45:27Speaker 3: to be to be unhealthy because you could be fat,
- 45:30Speaker 3: hilarious fat.
- 45:32Speaker 5: Nobody's lost as big as it used to be.
- 45:36Speaker 3: All right, you want Bruce up here too. We did
- 45:40Speaker 3: a movie, we did that the Holiday Movie for v
- 45:43Speaker 3: H one, and he was in it. So he's still
- 45:45Speaker 3: big Bruce, Bruce.
- 45:46Speaker 4: It's almost like the debate with Skinny Luthor and Big Luther,
- 45:49Speaker 4: like Big.
- 45:52Speaker 3: I want Big. I want Big Mac to be as
- 45:54Speaker 3: healthy as as possibly count and we get him in
- 45:57Speaker 3: the gym and all that stuff, but we don't want
- 45:58Speaker 3: him to be skinny Matt.
- 45:59Speaker 7: But he came in with a sprite zero yesterday so.
- 46:04Speaker 2: That the morning.
- 46:07Speaker 3: We're gonna make sure Max stays healthy. We got a
- 46:10Speaker 3: new he got a show that and stuff that we're
- 46:11Speaker 3: working on to specifically in that space, and.
- 46:13Speaker 5: We want him to be here to do the show.
- 46:15Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes, because you don't see no old big people.
- 46:19Speaker 5: No. Eventually it all catches up. Absolutely, that's right.
- 46:22Speaker 2: We appreciate you for joining us. Nick Cannon and Klondyke.
- 46:25Speaker 5: Blonde Clondyke Blonde next door, Like what is it project dropping,
- 46:30Speaker 5: Like what is it?
- 46:31Speaker 8: We are working on a lot of records right now
- 46:33Speaker 8: within the punk rock rap little genre.
- 46:36Speaker 3: She and that vibe, that that little uzzy, that juice
- 46:39Speaker 3: world that she's like that whole festival vibe. So she
- 46:43Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna see her do a lot a
- 46:44Speaker 3: lot of shows and like, yeah, she got the tatted
- 46:47Speaker 3: Up record out right now, that's streaming going crazy. You know,
- 46:49Speaker 3: the tattoo world is a real world that she's embraced
- 46:53Speaker 3: and living and like her punk rock rap music is
- 46:56Speaker 3: gonna is gonna go up. So she's one of those
- 46:58Speaker 3: artists that stream. Like again, I was one of the
- 47:00Speaker 3: issue why I created Like you heard the song, you
- 47:03Speaker 3: heard the song on TikTok and you know it, but
- 47:05Speaker 3: you never see the person. Now we're gonna turn her
- 47:07Speaker 3: into the superstar that she needs to be and you know,
- 47:09Speaker 3: allow her fans to kind of touch her in the
- 47:11Speaker 3: way that you know, hopefully we take it to that.
- 47:14Speaker 5: Level with one incredible I know, just Valentine.
- 47:17Speaker 3: Hitman holler, yeah, those are I mean, there's a plethora
- 47:22Speaker 3: of acts that we're working with. And again I don't
- 47:24Speaker 3: like to be like, oh you're signed to incredible, but
- 47:26Speaker 3: these are the people from the artists that you see
- 47:29Speaker 3: on you know, even people like DC. Young Fly is
- 47:31Speaker 3: amazing artist. It's just that we gotta line it up
- 47:34Speaker 3: for when it's time to focus on his music because
- 47:36Speaker 3: he's doing so many other things. So the artists that
- 47:38Speaker 3: we're focusing on at the moment is Klondyke, hit Man,
- 47:42Speaker 3: and Justine are the ones that you're gonna see in
- 47:44Speaker 3: the like within the next sixty days dropping And you know,
- 47:47Speaker 3: we got a lot of Season two of Future Superstars
- 47:50Speaker 3: is gonna be a whole nother run.
- 47:51Speaker 4: He's until you got to come to Charleston.
- 47:53Speaker 3: We do have some talent onred percent. I meant you.
- 47:57Speaker 4: Can hear some awesome things.
- 47:58Speaker 3: You know, we we we all care Liner right here,
- 48:01Speaker 3: Carolina squad over here. I'm gonna be there tomorrow. My
- 48:05Speaker 3: grandmother just turned hunting at four. Yeah, shouts out to
- 48:09Speaker 3: Kareem Cannon. Happy birthday. So while I'm spending on my
- 48:12Speaker 3: great grand absolutely in Annapolis, North Carolina, Connapolis, what's that
- 48:17Speaker 3: next to Concord, Charlotte.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well it's the Breakfast Club. Is Nick Cannon,
- 48:23Speaker 2: Klonbag Blinde. Thank y'all, let's
- 48:24Speaker 3: Come y'all wake that ass up in the morning breakfast
- 48:28Speaker 3: club