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- 0:06[SPEAKER_00]: Jacksonville Jack Wars fans, welcome into Duval daily presented by Jin Jack dot com on Jordan Lugo.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks so much for tuning in Monday, September 8th, and we have Breaking Jacksonville Jack Wars news.
- 0:18[SPEAKER_00]: Tank Biggsby.
- 0:20[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Wars running back.
- 0:23[SPEAKER_00]: Third round pick, back in 2023.
- 0:26[SPEAKER_00]: He's been traded from the Jacksonville Jack Wars, according to Adam Shepter.
- 0:34[SPEAKER_00]: according to multiple league sources.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_00]: The Jaguars are sending running back tank bigs beat to the Philadelphia Eagles, second trade between the Jags and the Eagles, in recent weeks, in exchange for 2026 fifth and sixth round picks.
- 0:52[SPEAKER_00]: So tank bigs beat being moved by the Jacksonville Jaguars for two late round picks in the 2026 NFL draft.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_00]: Talk about it.
- 1:05[SPEAKER_00]: Here this evening, I know this will rub some folks the wrong way, I think.
- 1:11[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be an interesting one to talk about.
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- 1:28[SPEAKER_00]: Now, tank bigsby.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_00]: This is breaking news.
- 1:33[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, I don't have an outline or anything like that prepared for this one.
- 1:37[SPEAKER_00]: This is In a way very surprising Also like If you had told me That the Jack Wars we're gonna move one of their running backs That would not have shocked me.
- 1:54[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
- 1:56[SPEAKER_00]: They drafted two running backs this year, right?
- 1:58[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you drafted running back in the fourth round and then a running back in the seventh round and then they come in, they both handled themselves like professionals.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not just talking about in the game yesterday, talking about like throughout the off season throughout the off season program, training camp, basal tuton, and
- 2:20[SPEAKER_00]: uh... liquid allen come in and they handled themselves like professionals even though their rookies and then travesty tn is handling himself like a professional as well and so is tank bigsby you got four running backs uh... for good running backs and so yeah that it's not surprising to see one of them get moved and i know that the hot idea
- 2:44[SPEAKER_00]: was to potentially trade Travis C.T.N., all off season everyone was talking about the Jaguar's potentially trading Travis C.T.N., I didn't think that made sense for a variety of reasons.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_00]: The reason people were kind of saying that was E.T.N.
- 3:00[SPEAKER_00]: coming off a down year, E.T.N.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_00]: Final year of his rookie contract, so you know, if you're going to not resign him, it makes
- 3:15[SPEAKER_00]: opinion that Travis E. T. and Skilset as a dangerous, dangerous space player and someone who has shown they can be a lead back in this league and decent circumstances.
- 3:29[SPEAKER_00]: when he has confidence and a decent offensive line and all these things working for him, I thought that he made more sense for this Jaguar as team because he had more versatility in more home run speed.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that the way he really attacked this off-season and again, no shade at tank.
- 3:48[SPEAKER_00]: Just made him a little bit more valuable to this team because he has more speed, more explosiveness, more bend and just big playability
- 3:59[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't had fumbling issues recently.
- 4:03[SPEAKER_00]: He has better overall ball security as a runner and as a pass catcher.
- 4:09[SPEAKER_00]: And really, I think that he's not more physical, certainly than tank, right?
- 4:18[SPEAKER_00]: But probably a little bit more consistent in past pro.
- 4:24[SPEAKER_00]: You can just use him in more ways.
- 4:28[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it comes down to between the two veteran backs, right?
- 4:31[SPEAKER_00]: Like, ETN just has a more explosive balance skill set overall.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_00]: Then tank bigs beat it.
- 4:40[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it was also just, you know, maybe there was more interest in tank bigs.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_00]: But we don't know what type of interest Travis ETN had.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_00]: You would think after the game he had yesterday, they'd be plenty of interest around the league.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_00]: But, um,
- 4:52[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tank bigsby, man, a player I've always really liked.
- 4:57[SPEAKER_00]: Right, like coming out of Auburn, I was a big, big fan of his, that was a draft class where everybody was kind of like, why the heck are you taking Britain's strange and tank bigsby in the second, third round?
- 5:10[SPEAKER_00]: When you have an ingrown and Travis ETN,
- 5:18[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Trembalky, strange, strange team building, but two good players, two talented players.
- 5:24[SPEAKER_00]: And now Tank Biggs be well-head to Philly, to Philly roll for them, and be a backup, right?
- 5:35[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously not gonna be a starter in Philly.
- 5:37[SPEAKER_00]: They got say quam bark Lee, the guy who am I opinion should have been the MVP, but he can be a really good backup, a really good short yardage back,
- 5:47[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're bringing him in by any stretch of the imagination to be a third downback but kind of like a hammer probably somebody who can be a really good one-two punch and you know
- 5:58[SPEAKER_00]: Fifth and sixth round pick for running back is really, it's not nothing.
- 6:03[SPEAKER_00]: Running backs, they're devalued in this league unless they are players like.
- 6:08[SPEAKER_00]: Safe one, Barclay, Derek Henry.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the really elite backs in the league kind of do make a lot of money, but outside of that you don't see these huge deals really, and you also...
- 6:20[SPEAKER_00]: don't usually see back drafted super-highly unless they're like, could be John Robbins in an Ashton, Jenty-level talent, right?
- 6:27[SPEAKER_00]: Like, these types of guys take one, Barclay.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, running back is devalued and the Jack Wars had an opportunity here to get more draft capital for 2026, which is meaningful for a variety of reasons.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's always meaningful to have multiple extra draft picks.
- 6:49[SPEAKER_00]: not necessarily just to utilize them, but to use them as capital for trades during the draft.
- 6:56[SPEAKER_00]: That's even more of an important piece, I think, for 2026 for the Jaguars because of the trade they made this year to acquire Travis Hunter, right?
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- 8:49[SPEAKER_00]: So continue and on here, talking about this tank bigs-be trade,
- 8:53[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you thought now that the season had started, they were just going to roll with the four backs and they did have all four of them active yesterday.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_00]: And all four of them had a roll.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, you know, tank bigsby.
- 9:10[SPEAKER_00]: He had five carries yesterday.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_00]: And he did pick up a critical short yardage run for them where he ran hard, he ran tough.
- 9:18[SPEAKER_00]: got in there and kind of like shot out of a cannon at the line of scrimmage and just powered forward.
- 9:25[SPEAKER_00]: He was there at least effective back, five carries for 12 yards yesterday, but I don't think that he really looked and effective.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_00]: It was just when he was in the game, I think they keyed in on the run a little bit more.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not surprising, because again, as we talked about, I don't think that he has the same versatility in his skill set as a Travis C.T.N.
- 9:46[SPEAKER_00]: who, by the way, had 16 carries were 143 yards, 8.9 yards per carry yesterday for Travis C.T.N.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_00]: And not to tuton my own horn, too much.
- 9:59[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out Jordan Roddreak making that joke earlier today on the NFL Daily Show.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_00]: I said that I think Tank Bigsby makes more sense to trade.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_00]: Then Travis ETN, when all this scuttle but was going on all offseason about Travis ETN potentially getting traded, I thought Tank Bigsby made more sense because of the skill set, right?
- 10:22[SPEAKER_00]: Because of the fumbling issues, because of the inability to be effective in past pro and as a past catcher.
- 10:28[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that when Tank Bigsby is in the game, the Jag war is lack that multi-dimensional threat.
- 10:36[SPEAKER_00]: And defenses can just key in on it because they know they don't want to throw the ball to tank bigs V defense is no they don't want tank bees being past protection So what do you do when tank bigs be on the field you're probably running the ball however We'll try to see TN is on the field.
- 10:50[SPEAKER_00]: All options are open And that takes us to the two rookie running backs as well when bashed two in is on the field
- 10:57[SPEAKER_00]: All options are open.
- 10:59[SPEAKER_00]: He is a very good pass catcher.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_00]: He has an incredible speed and quickness and vision.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he is sufficient in pass protection.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have Lee Quint Allen, who is truly dynamite as a pass protector and a pass catcher out of the back field.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_00]: He only had one carry yesterday for seven yards, but Lee Quint Allen had multiple pass pro reps where he did a good job.
- 11:25[SPEAKER_00]: where he made a guy miss and picked up a first down.
- 11:28[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the group they're moving forward with.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not to say that Travis E. T. N is about to be some mainstay in Jacksonville.
- 11:37[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the future.
- 11:38[SPEAKER_00]: My best guess would be that the jagged bars are not going to prioritize signing Travis E. T. N after the year because of having bashed two.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_00]: And then because of having
- 11:49[SPEAKER_00]: liquid Allen.
- 11:50[SPEAKER_00]: I think that those are two guys you can potentially just rely on as you're one to punch following the 2020 five season and you know when you go from ETN to Tutton.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you're losing a whole lot in any department, really.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he has the potential to be better than Travis E.T.N.
- 12:12[SPEAKER_00]: But right now, Travis E.T.N.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_00]: is the lead back for the Jaguars and I think that's a very good thing.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_00]: I was steadfast all offseason and you know, maybe they do trade him, who knows.
- 12:21[SPEAKER_00]: But I did not want them to trade Travis E.T.N.
- 12:24[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that they were a better team with him in the fold, and this is a team that's not like
- 12:33[SPEAKER_00]: In a situation where they are like in this rebuilding mode and they don't really need to have the best guys available right now.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is a team that wants to make the playoffs that wants to win their division right now in 2025 and let the chips fall where they may.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_00]: down the stretch that they want to be as good as they can be does losing tank bigs be really diminish the room all that much.
- 12:58[SPEAKER_00]: Now that you've seen basal to an analy quint Allen and game action you've seen Travis E. T. and in this offense I don't think it does but it does set up next year next year's draft.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of ammunition now to potentially move back up into the first round if they want to, to have more higher value day two picks in the draft if they want to.
- 13:19[SPEAKER_00]: They have a lot of versatility with some of the moves they have made, just trading with the Eagles.
- 13:25[SPEAKER_00]: For example, I think they now have fifth, sixth and seventh round picks from the Philadelphia Eagles next year.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_00]: with the long-term vision in mind, trading bigsby.
- 13:42[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't really think they're losing a whole lot.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_00]: And that's no slight on tank who I do think adds something to an NFL offense as a runner.
- 13:52[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have the guys, the Jaguar has have.
- 13:56[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think he was really bringing much outside of being able to key the defense in on what you're probably trying to do here on this down when he's on the field.
- 14:07[SPEAKER_00]: That's the harsh reality of it.
- 14:10[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that he showed throughout his Auburn career some ability as a past catcher.
- 14:17[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he improved in terms of his ball security throughout his collegiate career.
- 14:22[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, those improvements did not manifest all that much in the NFL, and he couldn't pass protect either very well.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_00]: So he's moving on to Philly.
- 14:34[SPEAKER_00]: Great landing spot for him.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_00]: Excited for him to potentially be that number two back behind St.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_00]: Quam Barclay.
- 14:43[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know,
- 14:45[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Philly is really worried about what their opponents think they're doing because they're just that dominant up front on the offensive line and you know you have jalen hurts and sick one barcline the backfield together you have jalen hurts and then tink bakes me in the backfield together that that's a little bit of a nightmare to deal with.
- 15:04[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he can do a better job ball security, catching the ball in Philly, then he's done in Jacksonville.
- 15:12[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, I'm certainly wishing him the best.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_00]: I've always had a lot of fun with Tank being on the team.
- 15:19[SPEAKER_00]: Being able to send out the memes and then the tank, all the good stuff.
- 15:23[SPEAKER_00]: So thanks to CMGO, but overall for me, like I just don't think that the Jaguar's objectively are losing a whole lot.
- 15:34[SPEAKER_00]: and they are gaining a good amount of draft ammunition, draft capital to have more versatility and more utility to move up and down the board in 2026, which I think will be valuable.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_00]: And you've seen already,
- 15:50[SPEAKER_00]: at least it appears.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen James Gladstone be able to find success late in the draft.
- 15:57[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Jonah Monheim is someone they're very excited about.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_00]: Lee Quint Allen is one of the reasons that tank bigs be is no longer a Jacksonville Jaguar, seventh round pick.
- 16:06[SPEAKER_00]: So,
- 16:09[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen that and you've seen that with the Rams, you know, where Gladstone comes from for a long time, their ability to hit on these later round picks and kind of not transcend the draft, but really do a better job than most teams.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_00]: with the late round picks.
- 16:32[SPEAKER_00]: So here is an update from my Garofolo that Eagles trade for tank bigs be as in part due to a need for another kick returner, sources say.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_00]: He will be in the mix for that role with Will Shipley, who had one return against the Cowboys who was dealing with a rib injury.
- 16:48[SPEAKER_00]: So tank as a returner can help the Eagles out potentially.
- 16:53[SPEAKER_00]: I personally don't think you're trading a fifth and a sixth round pick for a returner, specifically, if you can help you in that regard and also be a runner that you can rely on, I think, I think that that can help Philly, but happy trails to tank Biggsby, who I think was a good teammate, somebody who was fun to have around the locker room.
- 17:22[SPEAKER_00]: fun to have on the practice field, fun to watch play, and a lot of regards, but when you've got two rooks coming in that are doing a really good job, Travis ETN, having a great offseason and that carrying into the regular season, I can completely understand why the jag wars have decided to go in this direction.
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