Latest / The KFAB Comment Line with Jean Stothert / Jean is Back Bonds and Property Taxes
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I am your host, Jean Stothert. I am back. You, Peyton,
- 0:04Speaker 1: I'm back.
- 0:04Speaker 2: So good to have you back, Jean.
- 0:05Speaker 3: Welcome.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Thank you, Peyton. My producer is also here today. How
- 0:10Speaker 1: are you?
- 0:10Speaker 2: I'm doing really good, Gene.
- 0:12Speaker 4: You did a good job last week with multiple, multiple
- 0:16Speaker 4: people hosting, and I will get to that in just
- 0:19Speaker 4: a second. But we really want to hear from you today.
- 0:22Speaker 4: We want to get your feedback. We want to hear
- 0:23Speaker 4: your comments, concerns, questions, complaints. Anything goes. We won't back
- 0:28Speaker 4: away from anything, whether it's city, state, national, or the world.
- 0:31Speaker 4: And we will have plenty of good guests this week. And,
- 0:34Speaker 4: of course, you're going to hear plenty of opinions from me.
- 0:37Speaker 4: But it is your chance to speak up and sound off.
- 0:41Speaker 4: You can send your emails to comment at kfab.com. You
- 0:44Speaker 4: can call us at 402-558-1110. Or you can leave us
- 0:48Speaker 4: a recorded message on the talkback mic, and we will
- 0:51Speaker 4: play it on the air.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yes, I love a good talkback, Gene. They're my favorite.
- 0:56Speaker 4: As long as they're not too vulgar and obscene, we
- 0:59Speaker 4: will take them. No, they're not. They're great. I love
- 1:02Speaker 4: taking those. It's like people want to say something. They
- 1:05Speaker 4: want it in their voice.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Excuse me. Guess what? I got a cold.
- 1:11Speaker 4: Okay, I'll try to not cough in your ears today
- 1:15Speaker 4: at all. But, you know, we've got lots to talk about.
- 1:19Speaker 4: And guess who's going to be our guest tomorrow? I'm
- 1:22Speaker 4: excited about this one. Highly anticipated.
- 1:26Speaker 2: Yep.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Candidate for U.S.
- 1:28Speaker 4: Senator Dan Osborne is going to be in the studio
- 1:30Speaker 4: with me and Peyton tomorrow.
- 1:32Speaker 1: So listen in. I have a lot of questions to
- 1:35Speaker 1: ask Dan.
- 1:36Speaker 4: Are they still playing the you're a fake Democrat Osborne?
- 1:40Speaker 2: He's a fake. You know, that's true. And if you
- 1:42Speaker 2: have any potential questions for Dan Osborne, be sure to
- 1:46Speaker 2: send an email to comment at KFAB dot dot com.
- 1:49Speaker 2: Excuse me. Comment at kfab.com, and we'll try our best
- 1:52Speaker 2: to play those on the air tomorrow.
- 1:55Speaker 4: You all get ready because if you have questions today even,
- 1:59Speaker 4: send them in today.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Excuse me.
- 2:02Speaker 4: And we'll get to them. And maybe Dan will stay
- 2:05Speaker 4: on and help answer those calls, too. But I'm looking
- 2:07Speaker 4: forward to that. And then later on this week, guess
- 2:10Speaker 4: who's going to be on Thursday?
- 2:11Speaker 3: P.J.
- 2:11Speaker 5: Morgan.
- 2:12Speaker 3: P.J.
- 2:13Speaker 4: Morgan, former mayor. He's on the county board now. I
- 2:16Speaker 4: think everybody knows his name in the city of Omaha.
- 2:19Speaker 4: And he's going to be in the studio on Thursday.
- 2:21Speaker 4: And we might just fill up the rest of the week, too.
- 2:24Speaker 4: But I was gone all last week. Had a good time.
- 2:29Speaker 4: I was down at Big Cedar. You're looking awfully tan, Jean.
- 2:32Speaker 2: I don't know why. Do I? Yeah, looking a little tan.
- 2:35Speaker 1: Well, I was outside a lot. But, you know, while
- 2:36Speaker 1: it was raining here. Oh, boy.
- 2:41Speaker 4: I got to use that cough button today. While it
- 2:43Speaker 4: was raining here, it was beautiful and warm and sunny
- 2:46Speaker 4: down there. And my husband, Kevin, was playing in kind
- 2:50Speaker 4: of like a golf tournament. It was with a group
- 2:52Speaker 4: of men that he's played with in Maryland for years.
- 2:56Speaker 4: By the way, he lived in Maryland for the last
- 2:58Speaker 4: 50 years.
- 2:59Speaker 1: Not St.
- 3:00Speaker 4: Louis like the social media fanatics insist. He didn't live
- 3:04Speaker 4: in St. Louis over the last 50 years. He lived
- 3:06Speaker 4: in Maryland. But anyway, it's a group of men that
- 3:08Speaker 4: he played with for probably the last 40 years, and
- 3:12Speaker 4: they play a lot together, and they planned a trip
- 3:16Speaker 4: down to Big Cedar, so I went down there with him.
- 3:18Speaker 4: I haven't been down there in a long time. Have
- 3:20Speaker 4: you been down to the Ozarks, Branson area?
- 3:23Speaker 2: Yes, a very, very quick trip, but I've been down
- 3:27Speaker 2: in there.
- 3:28Speaker 4: You know, that's where, when I grew up in Illinois,
- 3:30Speaker 4: that's That's about the only vacation that my family took
- 3:33Speaker 4: because that's about the only vacation they could afford. And
- 3:36Speaker 4: we would drive down there to the Ozarks. And to me,
- 3:39Speaker 4: that was so much fun then. It looks a lot
- 3:41Speaker 4: different now, but Big Cedar is very pretty. He played
- 3:45Speaker 4: about five days in a row and two rounds of
- 3:49Speaker 4: 18 home runs.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Holes every day.
- 3:51Speaker 4: A few days they did a nine in the morning,
- 3:53Speaker 4: but different golf courses around there. They played a lot
- 3:56Speaker 4: of golf. I mean, a lot of golf. But anyway,
- 3:59Speaker 4: it was fun. And then we went to Bentonville, Arkansas,
- 4:02Speaker 4: which is only about an hour and a half away.
- 4:04Speaker 4: Have you ever been there, Peyton?
- 4:06Speaker 2: No, never.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Okay, y'all, this is a great little city. And it's
- 4:10Speaker 4: the home of Walmart. It's where the Waltons built their
- 4:13Speaker 4: first five and ten. And this little town is just booming.
- 4:19Speaker 4: You can't believe how cool this town is. And the
- 4:24Speaker 4: campus for the headquarters for Walmart are there. And it's enormous.
- 4:28Speaker 4: But they have a world-class museum there called Crystal Bridges.
- 4:32Speaker 4: And you know what they have? There's an artist that
- 4:33Speaker 4: I love. I don't know if anybody that's listening... cares,
- 4:37Speaker 4: but her name is Georgia O'Keeffe and she's from Santa
- 4:40Speaker 4: Fe and she does these real beautiful pictures, I think,
- 4:43Speaker 4: of flowers and things like that. Kind of real abstract looking.
- 4:48Speaker 4: But anyway, they have just hanging on the wall there
- 4:51Speaker 4: a picture you could go right up to that Alice
- 4:53Speaker 4: Walton bought.
- 4:54Speaker 1: It's one Georgia.
- 4:55Speaker 4: O'Keeffe for $ 44 million.
- 4:59Speaker 1: And it's just hanging there.
- 5:01Speaker 4: I mean, you can just walk right up to it
- 5:03Speaker 4: and Well, I was going to say and touch it,
- 5:06Speaker 4: but you really can.
- 5:07Speaker 1: Probably some alarms would go off. But that was really amazing.
- 5:11Speaker 1: So it was fun.
- 5:11Speaker 4: But anyway, we did a lot of driving. But I'm
- 5:15Speaker 4: glad to be back in Omaha, Nebraska. So much to
- 5:19Speaker 4: talk about. You know what I did last night? I
- 5:21Speaker 4: tried to read the paper every day online while I
- 5:24Speaker 4: was gone. And then I did listen to a few
- 5:27Speaker 4: of your shows, buddy, to see how.
- 5:29Speaker 1: You are doing. Did a good job.
- 5:31Speaker 4: But anyway, then I was brought– I had to sit
- 5:36Speaker 4: down last night and read the paper copies of all
- 5:38Speaker 4: the Wall Street journals and all the Omaha World Heralds
- 5:40Speaker 4: while I was gone.
- 5:41Speaker 1: It took me a while to read all that. But
- 5:43Speaker 1: now I'm all caught up.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Now you're all caught up. I'm with the program now.
- 5:46Speaker 2: It's not the same reading it online.
- 5:48Speaker 1: No, I know it.
- 5:48Speaker 2: It's not very seamless in the paper.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Uh-uh.
- 5:51Speaker 2: I notice you have all your papers filed out when
- 5:54Speaker 2: you read the newspaper and you write some notes and
- 5:56Speaker 2: you might circle something or undermine.
- 5:59Speaker 4: I do that all the time, and I did that
- 6:00Speaker 4: last night. Of course, I throw away the sports section. Okay,
- 6:04Speaker 4: criticize me for that. But then I've went through everything.
- 6:07Speaker 4: So anyway, I feel like I'm all caught up. Many, many,
- 6:09Speaker 4: many thanks. Gary Saddlemeyer, Chip Maxwell, Kathleen Kauth, Mike Evans,
- 6:13Speaker 4: Lucy Chapman did a fantastic job. Thank you to all
- 6:17Speaker 4: of you that filled in last week. Now– I've told
- 6:20Speaker 4: you in the beginning of every show that you're going
- 6:22Speaker 4: to have plenty of opinions from me, so I'm going
- 6:24Speaker 4: to talk about something, and I want you to give
- 6:27Speaker 4: me feedback. Tell me if you agree with me, if
- 6:29Speaker 4: you don't. But I listened to the Kathleen Kauff, Mike
- 6:32Speaker 4: Evans show, and I got to give my opinion on
- 6:35Speaker 4: a few things that were said on that show that
- 6:38Speaker 4: I disagree with. I disagree with 100%. So I'm going
- 6:40Speaker 4: to tell you why I disagree immediately. And then I'm
- 6:45Speaker 4: going to explain why I disagree. And then I welcome
- 6:48Speaker 4: all of your comments. But first of all, it was
- 6:51Speaker 4: said that elections are coming up. And we know that,
- 6:55Speaker 4: and I just want to make sure. I want to
- 6:57Speaker 4: make sure these things are clear to our listeners. Kathleen
- 7:01Speaker 4: Kauf did say we had two new parties in Nebraska,
- 7:04Speaker 4: which is true. They're new in Nebraska, but the America
- 7:07Speaker 4: First Party, and then she talked about the Working People's Party,
- 7:10Speaker 4: and she called them strategically brilliant. But I think it's
- 7:15Speaker 4: confusing about the America First Party because the America First
- 7:18Speaker 4: Party is not a new party. It was established in
- 7:22Speaker 4: 1943 after World War II.
- 7:24Speaker 1: And when you.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Read about why it was established and when it was established,
- 7:28Speaker 4: it really was prioritizing a lot of traditional values, limited government,
- 7:33Speaker 4: traditional family structures, all of the things that sound like
- 7:38Speaker 4: the Republican Party. But apparently there's not an agreement with
- 7:44Speaker 4: this America First Party in the state of Nebraska who
- 7:47Speaker 4: organized it and what their direction really is that they
- 7:53Speaker 4: are going. And so I just wanted to clarify that
- 7:56Speaker 4: that party is not a brand-new party.
- 7:59Speaker 1: It's been around for years, but it's new in Nebraska.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Okay.
- 8:05Speaker 4: There's another thing that I wanted to address because I
- 8:07Speaker 4: want to make sure you all understand it. Well, Kathleen
- 8:11Speaker 4: Kauf started talking about the ballot issues, which are bond issues.
- 8:15Speaker 4: And she did say, if you don't understand, vote no.
- 8:19Speaker 4: I am going to tell you, Gene Stothert thinks that
- 8:22Speaker 4: this is Terrible advice. I would say if you don't
- 8:26Speaker 4: understand the bond issues, please go online and read about them.
- 8:31Speaker 4: And then when you look at your ballot, those bond issues,
- 8:36Speaker 4: there's five bond issues normally, city bond issues. Last time
- 8:41Speaker 4: there has been six because of the road preservation bond
- 8:45Speaker 4: being reauthorized. And I'm going to get to that and
- 8:48Speaker 4: explain those. But it's spelled out what those bonds will do,
- 8:54Speaker 4: and it gives an example of several of the projects
- 8:57Speaker 4: that will result from those bonds passing. Kathleen Kaus said
- 9:04Speaker 4: a very low proportion of people actually want them, and
- 9:08Speaker 4: that is not true. And she said, if you don't
- 9:11Speaker 4: vote no, you've changed the math of the formula.
- 9:15Speaker 1: There's no formula. This is an election. You vote yes,
- 9:18Speaker 1: you vote no.
- 9:19Speaker 4: They go up, they go down, or they pass or
- 9:22Speaker 4: they do not pass. Now, to say that very few
- 9:25Speaker 4: people actually want these, that is not true either because,
- 9:29Speaker 4: first of all, The city of Omaha cannot go out
- 9:31Speaker 4: there and campaign for those bond issues. We can't go
- 9:35Speaker 4: out and say, vote for this and vote for that.
- 9:39Speaker 4: That's why we always have the Greater Omaha Chamber of
- 9:41Speaker 4: Commerce do that. But in the last election, there are
- 9:44Speaker 4: five different types of bonds. Street bonds, sewer bonds, park bonds,
- 9:49Speaker 4: public safety bonds, and public facility bonds. Street bonds passed
- 9:53Speaker 4: by 73%. Street preservation, that's a reauthorization, 78%. Six percent public. safety, 69%. Parks, 75%.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Public facilities, 70%. Those passed with a big majority of voters.
- 10:10Speaker 4: I mean, I'd like to get those numbers when I
- 10:12Speaker 4: ran for something. So it is not accurate to say
- 10:15Speaker 4: that not many people want these But to say vote
- 10:19Speaker 4: no if you don't understand them is the wrong thing
- 10:24Speaker 4: to do.
- 10:24Speaker 1: It's terrible advice.
- 10:26Speaker 4: And like I said, there is no magic formula for
- 10:29Speaker 4: that mathematical formula. But if you don't understand them, you
- 10:34Speaker 4: need to try to understand them. Because, for example, if
- 10:38Speaker 4: those five different categories of bonds do not pass, and
- 10:43Speaker 4: with the last election that they passed overwhelmingly, that was
- 10:46Speaker 4: about $ 300 million worth of bonds. And that's how we
- 10:51Speaker 4: fund our capital improvement projects. So if those failed, that
- 10:57Speaker 4: means there is a lot of capital projects with our
- 11:00Speaker 4: public facilities, our parks, our sewers, our roads that will
- 11:06Speaker 4: not get done. They won't get done. And if they
- 11:08Speaker 4: don't pass, then it's called pay as you go. You
- 11:13Speaker 4: don't have any bonds that you can use and pay
- 11:15Speaker 4: off over a period of time. So what happens with
- 11:19Speaker 4: cities that are pay as you go is the cities
- 11:22Speaker 4: start declining badly. Because if you didn't have that bond
- 11:26Speaker 4: money to pay for things like roads and sewers and
- 11:30Speaker 4: parks and public facilities and public safety, and you don't
- 11:35Speaker 4: have the money, you don't have an extra $ 300 million
- 11:38Speaker 4: to pay as you go, then cities decline. Or the
- 11:43Speaker 4: other thing is, is that the city or the mayor
- 11:46Speaker 4: at the time and the city council not wanting the
- 11:49Speaker 4: city decline, and this is what I mean by pay
- 11:51Speaker 4: as you go, they raise your property taxes. Because it
- 11:54Speaker 4: results in a drastic reduction in income to pay the
- 11:59Speaker 4: bond debt if those bond issues don't pass. How the
- 12:02Speaker 4: city of Omaha schedules those bonds, every time we have
- 12:06Speaker 4: a bond issue, which is usually every four to.
- 12:08Speaker 1: Five years, they look at.
- 12:11Speaker 4: Bonds that we have refinanced. They look at bonds that
- 12:14Speaker 4: we have paid off. They look at the total amount
- 12:17Speaker 4: of bond debt we have, and they make sure that
- 12:20Speaker 4: we don't add any additional bond debt that would require
- 12:24Speaker 4: an increase in taxes. So the way we schedule them
- 12:29Speaker 4: is those things pass. You have money that you can
- 12:32Speaker 4: do major capital projects all over the city. Your taxes
- 12:37Speaker 4: will not go up. So to say vote no on them,
- 12:42Speaker 4: two things will happen. The city will either decline drastically
- 12:45Speaker 4: or– they will have to raise the property taxes to
- 12:49Speaker 4: pay for these things because they don't have the bonds
- 12:51Speaker 4: to do it anymore. This is what happens with pay
- 12:54Speaker 4: as you go. And so voting no is, like I said,
- 12:58Speaker 4: is the absolute wrong advice. And a lot of times
- 13:02Speaker 4: people will say, well, yeah, but if you vote no,
- 13:05Speaker 4: then your property taxes will automatically go down.
- 13:08Speaker 1: And I will say no. Not necessarily.
- 13:11Speaker 4: They could go down and your city will decline rapidly,
- 13:15Speaker 4: or they could go up to pay for the loss
- 13:18Speaker 4: in bonds. And so to say that it will actually
- 13:22Speaker 4: lower your property taxes is not going to happen.
- 13:25Speaker 1: I will say that.
- 13:27Speaker 4: And as I'm talking about that and listening to what
- 13:31Speaker 4: was being said on the radio, it really concerned me because,
- 13:35Speaker 4: for example– In May of 2020, we passed the $ 200
- 13:39Speaker 4: million street bond, and that allowed us– that passed overwhelmingly.
- 13:45Speaker 4: In fact, I put that on the ballot, and what
- 13:48Speaker 4: happened in May, COVID hit. And there were two ballot questions.
- 13:52Speaker 4: One was the $ 200 million street bond issue, and the
- 13:56Speaker 4: next ballot question, which voters approved, was a three-and-a-half penny
- 14:01Speaker 4: property tax increase to pay for those bonds. I never–
- 14:06Speaker 4: had to raise the property taxes to pay for those bonds.
- 14:10Speaker 4: We were able to, like I said, refinance bonds, pay
- 14:14Speaker 4: old bonds off early, and we were able to continue
- 14:17Speaker 4: to pay the bond debt on that without raising property taxes.
- 14:21Speaker 4: But people even voted to raise property taxes just to
- 14:25Speaker 4: get that extra money to go into the streets. If
- 14:29Speaker 4: the last bond issue, as Kathleen Cowell said, vote no
- 14:32Speaker 4: if you don't understand it, if that wouldn't have passed
- 14:34Speaker 4: because these street bonds were back on there for reauthorization,
- 14:38Speaker 4: meaning another $ 200 million, then we would basically stop. any
- 14:42Speaker 4: of the reconstruction and resurfacing and rehabilitation of our streets.
- 14:46Speaker 4: We would let all our old sewers just go. Wouldn't
- 14:49Speaker 4: do any more work on it. Public facilities, let them
- 14:52Speaker 4: run down. Parks, let them run down. That's what would
- 14:55Speaker 4: happen if these would fail.
- 14:57Speaker 2: That's a lot of really good information, Jean. And I
- 15:00Speaker 2: have a question for you, okay? I have a few
- 15:02Speaker 2: phone calls and I want to get to here before
- 15:04Speaker 2: we take a break. I think they're going to be
- 15:05Speaker 2: really good phone calls. I go in to vote and
- 15:09Speaker 2: on November 3rd, Say there's some bond issues on the ballot.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I did a lot of research on my things on
- 15:15Speaker 2: all the races on the ballot. I don't recognize this one,
- 15:21Speaker 2: this one, one on the ballot. I don't know. I'm
- 15:24Speaker 2: not too familiar with it. I don't want to just
- 15:25Speaker 2: vote one way or the other. What do I do?
- 15:28Speaker 4: Well, like I said, if you if you go back
- 15:31Speaker 4: and in fact, you all could go to the Douglas
- 15:34Speaker 4: County election office and you could pull up.
- 15:39Speaker 1: The actual language of the ballot questions. You could pull
- 15:44Speaker 1: that up.
- 15:44Speaker 4: And if you want to go ahead and pull it
- 15:46Speaker 4: up and look at the last bond issue, you all
- 15:49Speaker 4: will see it gives an explanation of these bonds and
- 15:53Speaker 4: it gives an explanation of what type of capital projects
- 15:58Speaker 4: will be done if those bonds pass. Like one that
- 16:01Speaker 4: was in particular that we had to do a lot
- 16:05Speaker 4: of work on the last time was in public facilities,
- 16:09Speaker 4: and it included the– well, it was $ 100 million for
- 16:12Speaker 4: the city, but that it would be $ 100 million towards
- 16:16Speaker 4: the expansion of CHI Health Center.
- 16:19Speaker 1: And so that was one.
- 16:20Speaker 4: That people thought, hmm, do we really need to expand CHI,
- 16:24Speaker 4: our arena convention? And, you know, it was like I said,
- 16:28Speaker 4: the city cannot go out there and say, vote for this,
- 16:31Speaker 4: we can advocate for it. But the chamber is the
- 16:33Speaker 4: one that advocates for it. And they made it very,
- 16:36Speaker 4: very clear that if that bond issue passed for public
- 16:40Speaker 4: facilities and for the expansion of CHI Health Center, our
- 16:44Speaker 4: arena convention, we could get, we will grow the number
- 16:47Speaker 4: of meeting rooms. Right now, I mean, we'll add 25
- 16:52Speaker 4: more meeting rooms, which will result in a total of
- 16:54Speaker 4: 41 meeting rooms. That will result in about– they estimate
- 16:59Speaker 4: in about 1.2 billion more in meetings just coming to.
- 17:04Speaker 1: The city of Omaha.
- 17:05Speaker 4: So they explain all that in the– not in the
- 17:09Speaker 4: ballot question, but the chamber goes out there. and talks
- 17:12Speaker 4: a lot about it, advocating for that bond issue for us.
- 17:16Speaker 4: And so these things are really important for the continuation
- 17:20Speaker 4: of the city to do the projects that they need
- 17:23Speaker 4: to do. And like I said, we schedule these so
- 17:26Speaker 4: it will not require... a property tax increase to pay
- 17:30Speaker 4: the debt. And again, I want to repeat, it doesn't
- 17:34Speaker 4: mean if they don't pass, your property taxes will go
- 17:37Speaker 4: down because inevitably property taxes will have to go up
- 17:41Speaker 4: to pay as you go. So that is something. And,
- 17:44Speaker 4: you know, when we talked about these bond issues before,
- 17:47Speaker 4: we've talked a lot about it. But another thing that
- 17:50Speaker 4: Kathleen Kalf, Senator Kalf said, that talked about cities and
- 17:55Speaker 4: talked about, you know, we are always asking for more.
- 18:00Speaker 1: And, you know, keep in mind this, folks.
- 18:03Speaker 4: I'll talk about the last 12 years, but the last
- 18:06Speaker 4: 12 years, when I was mayor, we lowered the levy
- 18:10Speaker 4: five times. Every year for the last 12 years, we've
- 18:14Speaker 4: had a balanced budget by the end of the year,
- 18:18Speaker 4: and it wasn't just balanced. We had a surplus every
- 18:22Speaker 4: single year. Now, let's look at the state of Nebraska.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Senator Kauth is on the Revenue Committee. They had about
- 18:28Speaker 4: a $ 650 million shortfall that they're dealing with. Last year,
- 18:30Speaker 4: they predicted a billion-dollar shortfall. And two budget cycles shortfall.
- 18:38Speaker 4: So let's talk about who's managing the money and coming
- 18:44Speaker 4: out with a balanced budget and a surplus at the
- 18:46Speaker 4: end of the year. And then let's look at the
- 18:49Speaker 4: state of Nebraska who's got some real issues. And so,
- 18:53Speaker 4: you know, the other thing that was brought up that
- 18:57Speaker 4: Kathleen said again is if you have money left over
- 19:00Speaker 4: at the end of your budget, you need to give
- 19:02Speaker 4: it back to the people.
- 19:05Speaker 1: I really couldn't agree more with her on that one.
- 19:09Speaker 4: The city charter dictates, the Omaha city charter, it's like
- 19:13Speaker 4: our constitution, that say if you have a surplus in
- 19:17Speaker 4: your budget at the end of the year of 2025,
- 19:20Speaker 4: it does not go to 26 because you don't even
- 19:24Speaker 4: balance out your budget until about three or four months
- 19:26Speaker 4: into 26. But it goes back into the budget in 2027.
- 19:31Speaker 4: And it is used to fund city departments, and it
- 19:34Speaker 4: is used to do all of the things that the
- 19:37Speaker 4: people and the citizens of Omaha expect to be done
- 19:40Speaker 4: by their government. So that additional surplus, it goes right
- 19:45Speaker 4: back into the budget. Or what another thing I did
- 19:48Speaker 4: is I really tried to build up our cash reserve
- 19:50Speaker 4: because our cash reserve was miserable. So in essence, it
- 19:53Speaker 4: does go back to the people because it helps fund
- 19:56Speaker 4: all of the things that you expect city government to do.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Let's get to a phone call real quick. Jen, you
- 20:02Speaker 2: are live with Jean Stothert here on 1110 KFAB. Welcome in, Jen.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Good morning.
- 20:08Speaker 2: Hi.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Hi.
- 20:10Speaker 5: You know, I couldn't believe all the information you're pouring
- 20:14Speaker 5: out right now. It's like honestly mind-blowing to me. And
- 20:18Speaker 5: I just want to know, does our current mayor know
- 20:23Speaker 5: all that, everything that you've told us about just now?
- 20:29Speaker 5: I'm just curious. I mean, I know it would be
- 20:33Speaker 5: a guess on your part, but. It's so sad that
- 20:36Speaker 5: you're not in that chair. I'm so upset.
- 20:40Speaker 4: Well, thank you for your comment. Thank you so much
- 20:42Speaker 4: for your comment. I will just say this is, you know,
- 20:46Speaker 4: I was mayor 12 years. I should know all this stuff.
- 20:48Speaker 4: Mayor Ewing has been in the office for one year.
- 20:52Speaker 4: He does not want my advice. He has never met
- 20:54Speaker 4: with me after he won the election. And again, he
- 20:57Speaker 4: won't let his staff know. be on my show either.
- 21:00Speaker 4: So I don't know what he knows. That information is
- 21:04Speaker 4: available with the finance department. The finance department, the finance
- 21:08Speaker 4: director that we currently have, Stephen Curtis, is somebody I
- 21:12Speaker 4: hired and worked with for 12 years. I know the
- 21:16Speaker 4: people that work in the finance department and they understand
- 21:19Speaker 4: the budget. But keep in mind, For example, when the
- 21:25Speaker 4: budget was passed for 2027, the budget that we are
- 21:28Speaker 4: in now in 2026, I did before I left office.
- 21:32Speaker 4: That budget was done. Mayor Ewing did a few tweaks
- 21:35Speaker 4: to it, but it was done. This is his first
- 21:37Speaker 4: true budget he did in 2027. And the budget went
- 21:40Speaker 4: up almost, the general fund went up almost 7%. He
- 21:44Speaker 4: did say when he presented the budget that we are
- 21:48Speaker 4: expecting a lot more revenue in sales tax, about $ 23
- 21:51Speaker 4: million more in sales tax is their estimate for 27.
- 21:55Speaker 4: And he said valuations continue to go up. And they
- 22:01Speaker 4: predict that we'll have at least about $ 10. 5 million more
- 22:04Speaker 4: in property taxes today. And so more revenue is coming in,
- 22:08Speaker 4: but there was not a property tax reduction this year,
- 22:12Speaker 4: and the spending is definitely up. And so as far
- 22:17Speaker 4: as the bond issues go, I don't think that he
- 22:20Speaker 4: has– I mean, I don't even think they're talking about
- 22:23Speaker 4: doing another bond issue anytime really, really soon. And so
- 22:28Speaker 4: he has not had the time.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I mean, he has not since.
- 22:33Speaker 4: He has been mayor been able to go out there
- 22:36Speaker 4: and talk about bond issues and what's in those bond issues.
- 22:39Speaker 4: So just remember that those bond issues are very important
- 22:44Speaker 4: to the city of Omaha. Very unlikely that your taxes
- 22:49Speaker 4: would go down if they didn't pass and it was
- 22:53Speaker 4: pay as you go policy. But if your taxes did
- 22:56Speaker 4: go down, you're going to see your city really decline
- 22:58Speaker 4: at the same time. Otherwise, you're going to get your
- 23:01Speaker 4: taxes going back up to pay as you go.
- 23:05Speaker 1: These things are very important.
- 23:07Speaker 4: And so to give advice to say if you don't
- 23:10Speaker 4: understand it, vote no on.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I think is not very good advice at all.
- 23:16Speaker 2: Gene Stothert in the KFAB comment line. This girl is
- 23:19Speaker 2: on fire today. Her first day back here on a Monday.
- 23:23Speaker 2: We have Chuck on the phone lines. We will be
- 23:25Speaker 2: with you when we return from break. After a Fox
- 23:29Speaker 2: News update, Chuck, when we come back. 1110 KFAB, Gene
- 23:33Speaker 2: Stothert in the KFAB comment line. KFAB comment line with
- 23:36Speaker 2: Gene Stothert. She's off to a hot start. 402-558-1110, comment
- 23:42Speaker 2: at kfab.com. We want to hear from you.
- 23:44Speaker 1: See, I've been gone a week, so I'm on fire.
- 23:46Speaker 2: You got this pent-up energy. You're ready to go. You're
- 23:49Speaker 2: ready to go.
- 23:49Speaker 1: I guess so.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And Chuck is also ready to go on the phone lines. Chuck,
- 23:54Speaker 2: thanks for hanging on over the break there. You are
- 23:56Speaker 2: now live with Gene Stothert. Welcome in.
- 23:58Speaker 1: Good morning.
- 23:59Speaker 3: I'm ready to go, too. I'm on fire, too.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Good.
- 24:02Speaker 3: Hey, you're educating people about bond issues. I want to
- 24:07Speaker 3: say most people have no idea— how bond issues work.
- 24:11Speaker 3: I'm going to give you just a couple things. They
- 24:14Speaker 3: think it's free money.
- 24:16Speaker 2: It's not.
- 24:17Speaker 3: They issue bonds. They call it an issue because they
- 24:20Speaker 3: sell them based on the market, and then the interest
- 24:25Speaker 3: rate is set by the market. And then if you
- 24:28Speaker 3: buy the bonds, and you can't... I couldn't even buy
- 24:31Speaker 3: the bond. You have to be an institutional investor to
- 24:35Speaker 3: buy them. And when you buy them, you have... People
- 24:40Speaker 3: that have lots of money invested with these companies and
- 24:46Speaker 3: they get a tax break. They pay no tax on
- 24:50Speaker 3: the interest on state tax and federal tax. So if
- 24:57Speaker 3: you're in a 50% tax bracket and you're getting 5%,
- 24:59Speaker 3: sometimes 6%, you're getting the equivalent of about 8%, 9%.
- 25:10Speaker 3: return on your money, which is a sure thing, which
- 25:17Speaker 3: is a fabulous deal. And the taxpayers are not only
- 25:21Speaker 3: paying the interest when they pay the bonds back, they're
- 25:25Speaker 3: also getting less tax revenue by the high-income people within
- 25:30Speaker 3: the state that are not paying federal and state income tax.
- 25:36Speaker 3: Does anybody know this? I don't think so. Most people
- 25:39Speaker 3: have No clue. They think bond issues are free money.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Okay. I appreciate your call.
- 25:48Speaker 4: You know, I've never made the claim that bond issues
- 25:52Speaker 4: are free money. I've always said that the bond debt
- 25:57Speaker 4: that the city has to pay, and you could go
- 25:59Speaker 4: online anytime and pull up the city of Omaha's budget,
- 26:04Speaker 4: and it's all in there. is how much we pay
- 26:07Speaker 4: as far as bond debt every single year. And it's
- 26:12Speaker 4: not all the money that the sales tax and the
- 26:14Speaker 4: property tax and all the other taxes that come into
- 26:17Speaker 4: the city are dumped in the general fund. Some are
- 26:21Speaker 4: dumped in the judgment fund and some are dumped in
- 26:24Speaker 4: the bond debt fund. But what I am saying is
- 26:29Speaker 4: that we schedule these. We have so much bond debt
- 26:32Speaker 4: that we pay every year. And what you said is
- 26:35Speaker 4: actually very correct when you said the interest is set
- 26:38Speaker 4: by the market. However, we work very closely with a
- 26:42Speaker 4: bond council, and they will refinance these bonds that we
- 26:46Speaker 4: have over and over and over. And the city of
- 26:49Speaker 4: Omaha typically pays its bond debt off early. And so
- 26:54Speaker 4: once you pay that off and once you get the
- 26:58Speaker 4: bond debt at a lower amount, then you can take
- 27:01Speaker 4: on additional bonds to continue to do these capital projects.
- 27:06Speaker 4: But ever since I have been mayor, except for the
- 27:10Speaker 4: street preservations, we have had no increase in bonds. taxes
- 27:15Speaker 4: to pay additional bond debt. And so these are municipal
- 27:19Speaker 4: bonds that people are voting on. They're called general obligation bonds,
- 27:25Speaker 4: GO bonds. They're 20-year bonds, so they have to be
- 27:29Speaker 4: paid off within 20. The city of Omaha typically pays
- 27:32Speaker 4: a lot of those off much earlier than that because
- 27:35Speaker 4: we manage our money very carefully. This is why the
- 27:39Speaker 4: city of Omaha has such a good bond rating. We
- 27:42Speaker 4: are one notch below AAA with one of our bond raters,
- 27:46Speaker 4: and we're two notches below with the other, and that's
- 27:49Speaker 4: Standard & Poor's. S & P, and Moody's that do
- 27:53Speaker 4: our bond rating for us. And the reason that we
- 27:57Speaker 4: have such a high bond rating is because bond raters,
- 28:01Speaker 4: they don't look at just your debt. They look at
- 28:04Speaker 4: how you manage your debt. They look at how the
- 28:08Speaker 4: finances of the city are managed and how we continue
- 28:11Speaker 4: to pay off. Another thing I did when I became mayor,
- 28:14Speaker 4: if you recall, that Mayor Fahey had changed the payment
- 28:17Speaker 4: rate for CHI Health Center, for Arena Convention Center, to
- 28:22Speaker 4: interest only.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
- 28:24Speaker 4: Fahey had interest only being paid on that Arena Convention Center,
- 28:29Speaker 4: and the principal was not being paid down. When I
- 28:32Speaker 4: became mayor, we changed that. And so we were able to,
- 28:35Speaker 4: with other bonds being paid off, refinancing bonds, et cetera,
- 28:39Speaker 4: we were able to start paying on that principal of
- 28:42Speaker 4: the Arena Convention Center. And the Arena Convention Center should
- 28:45Speaker 4: be paid off in 27 or 28 from the original
- 28:49Speaker 4: cost of it. And so once again, it's how we
- 28:53Speaker 4: manage our debt. And when all these bond issues come about,
- 28:58Speaker 4: and the taxpayers vote for them, they are voting for
- 29:01Speaker 4: basically what's going to happen to the future of Omaha.
- 29:04Speaker 4: But I have always scheduled them so that there is
- 29:07Speaker 4: absolutely no increase in the taxes.
- 29:10Speaker 2: Again, these are municipal bonds. They're 20-year bonds. Gene, I
- 29:13Speaker 2: know you have some other topics you want to get
- 29:15Speaker 2: into today. And I have two emails that I think
- 29:17Speaker 2: could be a nice bow tie on this conversation, at
- 29:20Speaker 2: least for the time being. The first one comes from Pat.
- 29:24Speaker 2: So when should someone vote no on a bond issue?
- 29:29Speaker 1: Okay, good question.
- 29:30Speaker 4: Vote no and absolutely vote no if you do not
- 29:34Speaker 4: agree with it. If you understand it and you don't
- 29:37Speaker 4: agree with it, vote no. If you understand it and
- 29:41Speaker 4: you approve it and you understand it's going to be
- 29:43Speaker 4: good for the city, etc., and you understand it's not
- 29:46Speaker 4: going to raise your taxes, and you like that, vote yes.
- 29:50Speaker 4: Vote no if you don't like it. But to give
- 29:53Speaker 4: you advice to say, if you don't understand it, go
- 29:57Speaker 4: ahead and vote no, don't vote yes. No, I would
- 30:00Speaker 4: say if you don't understand it, leave it blank rather
- 30:04Speaker 4: than vote no.
- 30:05Speaker 2: And then my second question here goes to Adam, comment
- 30:08Speaker 2: at kfab.com. If I'm at the ballot box on election day,
- 30:14Speaker 2: and I don't know how I feel about said one topic,
- 30:18Speaker 2: what should I do? I'm there. I'm ready to vote.
- 30:22Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. What do I do?
- 30:25Speaker 4: Well, again, I would say if you're standing there in
- 30:27Speaker 4: the ballot box and you've got your ballot in front
- 30:30Speaker 4: of you, and keep in mind, like I said, there
- 30:33Speaker 4: are five different categories of GO, general obligation bonds, that
- 30:38Speaker 4: we put on the ballot. Street, they're sewer bonds. Public facilities,
- 30:44Speaker 4: public safety, and parks. If you don't understand one of
- 30:47Speaker 4: them that you think you don't– you're confused about it
- 30:51Speaker 4: or you don't understand it at all and you're leery
- 30:54Speaker 4: about voting for it, my recommendation would be to leave
- 30:57Speaker 4: it blank rather than vote no. There's a yes vote
- 31:00Speaker 4: and a no vote.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Too many no votes, it won't pass.
- 31:03Speaker 4: But you could see by the percentages I gave you
- 31:07Speaker 4: that the last bond issue passed by, it is not–
- 31:11Speaker 4: that a lot of people don't even want to get
- 31:15Speaker 4: these bonds approved.
- 31:16Speaker 1: That's not true. They pass overwhelmingly, and they should.
- 31:21Speaker 4: And another thing that I got to bring up, though,
- 31:24Speaker 4: that I think goes along with this, because we're talking
- 31:26Speaker 4: about property taxes again, is that it was said when
- 31:30Speaker 4: I think both Kathleen and Mayor Evans were on, made
- 31:34Speaker 4: a statement about if valuations are going up, then the
- 31:38Speaker 4: levy should go down. That is just too simple of
- 31:42Speaker 4: a statement to make and shows that there's a little
- 31:45Speaker 4: lack of understanding about how city governments work. Because in
- 31:50Speaker 4: Douglas County, I will say, that's what I know a
- 31:52Speaker 4: lot about in Douglas County. If you say just simply,
- 31:55Speaker 4: if valuations go up, levies should go down. How much
- 31:58Speaker 4: should it go down? Because here's what happens every year.
- 32:01Speaker 4: The valuation increases are not consistent at all. And so
- 32:06Speaker 4: throughout Douglas County, some valuations go up. Of those that
- 32:11Speaker 4: go up, some go up a little bit, some go
- 32:14Speaker 4: up a lot, some go down, and some stay the same.
- 32:18Speaker 4: So how do you figure out how much you're going
- 32:20Speaker 4: to drop the levy? Are you going to say, well,
- 32:23Speaker 4: let's take an average of all of this. Let's say
- 32:27Speaker 4: they go down a total of, I don't know, let's
- 32:30Speaker 4: just say $ 5 million, a total average for that year. Well,
- 32:37Speaker 4: then let's drop the levy another penny and take $ 5
- 32:41Speaker 4: million out of the budget.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Well, some people.
- 32:44Speaker 4: it's not going to be enough because their valuations went
- 32:47Speaker 4: up sky high. Some people have actually gone down and
- 32:51Speaker 4: some stay the same.
- 32:52Speaker 1: That's where it gets very confusing.
- 32:56Speaker 4: And so what I did is I just looked at
- 32:59Speaker 4: what the revenue was that we anticipate was coming in.
- 33:02Speaker 4: I gave each city department a goal, a budget goal
- 33:07Speaker 4: to reach so that if I had it in mind,
- 33:10Speaker 4: I want to lower the levy that year and take
- 33:12Speaker 4: money out of that general fund to lower the levy,
- 33:15Speaker 4: I would give them a goal and then I would
- 33:17Speaker 4: sit down with each department and try to get them
- 33:19Speaker 4: to meet that goal every year. It is not that
- 33:23Speaker 4: the city then turns around to the state and and
- 33:26Speaker 4: ask for extra money, which has been said several times.
- 33:31Speaker 1: We don't.
- 33:32Speaker 4: Cities in Nebraska have not gotten state aid from the
- 33:35Speaker 4: state in years and years and years. And so I
- 33:39Speaker 4: think the state budget should be a big concern to people.
- 33:43Speaker 4: Like I said, about a $ 650 million or more shortfall.
- 33:47Speaker 4: What are the alternate solutions? We've talked about epic tax.
- 33:51Speaker 4: With epic tax, they're trying to push it to say
- 33:54Speaker 4: if you agree to this epic tax, which makes your
- 33:57Speaker 4: sales tax go sky high, Then we can eliminate property tax.
- 34:01Speaker 4: I will tell you this. No state has ever eliminated
- 34:03Speaker 4: property tax. So we have nothing to go on. Another
- 34:07Speaker 4: thing that Senator Kauth did bring up is she said
- 34:10Speaker 4: she had a bill that would pretty much follow what
- 34:14Speaker 4: Prop 13 was in California. And that has not gotten
- 34:18Speaker 4: out of committee. And she said that people in California
- 34:21Speaker 4: love it. I don't see how. I mean, that was
- 34:24Speaker 4: passed in 1978. It resulted in a lot of revenue
- 34:31Speaker 4: streams coming into California just dropped. The roads are terrible.
- 34:36Speaker 4: The schools are bad. Development is pretty much in a standstill.
- 34:41Speaker 4: And let me just explain briefly how Prop 13 works.
- 34:44Speaker 1: It's basically... If you buy a house.
- 34:47Speaker 4: With Prop 13, that your valuation cannot go up any
- 34:52Speaker 4: more than 1% of what your purchase was. And then
- 34:57Speaker 4: it can't go up with the purchase. And then it
- 35:00Speaker 4: can't go up annually more than 2% until your property
- 35:05Speaker 4: is sold. Okay, so let me just give you an
- 35:07Speaker 4: example of the problem. If you bought, Peyton, if you
- 35:10Speaker 4: bought a house in 1990, And say you paid $ 200, 000
- 35:14Speaker 4: for that house. You're going to be paying about $ 3, 200
- 35:17Speaker 4: in property taxes. In 2024, you could buy the same
- 35:19Speaker 4: exact house. But now in 2024, that house in California
- 35:22Speaker 4: is worth $ 850, 000. Same exact house. But the guy that
- 35:34Speaker 4: bought it in 1990 is going to be paying $ 3, 200
- 35:39Speaker 4: in tax. The person that bought the same house in
- 35:43Speaker 4: 2024 is going to be paying $ 8, 500 in property taxes
- 35:47Speaker 4: because the value of the house will go up, but
- 35:51Speaker 4: you're not paying any more taxes on it. That's the
- 35:54Speaker 4: problem with Prop 13. Here on a Monday morning, Gene Stothert,
- 35:58Speaker 4: host of the show. My name is Peyton Highlock, running
- 36:00Speaker 4: the board.
- 36:01Speaker 2: And I'm just going to say, Gene, I'm excited to
- 36:04Speaker 2: have Dan Osborne in the studio tomorrow.
- 36:07Speaker 1: I think it'll be fun.
- 36:08Speaker 2: I have, oh boy, do I have a lot of
- 36:10Speaker 2: questions to ask. I think that should be really fun.
- 36:11Speaker 2: Don't forget to tune in for that 10 to 11 a.m. tomorrow.
- 36:14Speaker 2: Gene Stothert in the KFAB comment line with guest in studio,
- 36:18Speaker 2: Dan Osborne. And I got an email from Nick, comment
- 36:24Speaker 2: at KFAB.com. Gene, is the overall assessment process the chief
- 36:30Speaker 2: villain process? In the property tax system? If so, what's
- 36:35Speaker 2: the solution? And whose responsibility is it to fix it?
- 36:40Speaker 2: End of the email. I will just acknowledge, and I
- 36:42Speaker 2: don't have the answer, but that feels like a loaded question.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
- 36:45Speaker 4: I mean, if the solution was simple, it would have
- 36:49Speaker 4: been done a long time ago. But keep in mind
- 36:52Speaker 4: that property taxes are local. It's your local– School districts
- 36:58Speaker 4: that take most of it, of what you pay in
- 37:00Speaker 4: your property taxes, they take about between 60 and 70
- 37:04Speaker 4: percent goes to the schools. And then it's the city
- 37:07Speaker 4: and then it's Douglas County and then it's the NRD
- 37:10Speaker 4: and then it's, you know, Metro Community College. and all
- 37:13Speaker 4: those taxing entities set the levy. So that's set locally.
- 37:19Speaker 4: What the state can do is they can make state
- 37:21Speaker 4: laws to say things like, we are going to cap
- 37:25Speaker 4: the amount of revenue that comes in your city, and
- 37:28Speaker 4: if that revenue is higher than some certain percentage, then
- 37:33Speaker 4: you will have to.
- 37:34Speaker 1: Lower your levy.
- 37:35Speaker 4: I mean, the state can have options to do, but
- 37:38Speaker 4: I think the state, in my opinion personally, doesn't need
- 37:42Speaker 4: to be as concerned about what the city is doing.
- 37:46Speaker 4: The state needs to get their act together and balance
- 37:49Speaker 4: out the state's budget because Omaha, for example, like I
- 37:52Speaker 4: said before, has a balanced budget and have a surplus
- 37:55Speaker 4: at the end of the year where the state is
- 37:58Speaker 4: in a huge shortfall that they're going to have to
- 38:01Speaker 4: figure out some way or another. Now, what is the solution?
- 38:06Speaker 4: If you lower the property taxes, that's less revenue coming in.
- 38:12Speaker 4: Sales tax is the largest amount of revenue that comes
- 38:15Speaker 4: in the city of Omaha. We get more sales tax
- 38:18Speaker 4: into our budget than we do property taxes. So what
- 38:22Speaker 4: about all these sales tax exemptions that the state of
- 38:25Speaker 4: Nebraska has in place? Should we get rid of some
- 38:29Speaker 4: of the exemptions? Should we lower some of the exemptions?
- 38:32Speaker 4: I would never support getting rid of the exemption for
- 38:36Speaker 4: food at all.
- 38:38Speaker 1: That's nothing that I know of where... I would go.
- 38:41Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that direction at all.
- 38:44Speaker 4: But, I mean, the state needs to look at what
- 38:46Speaker 4: the state can do to help out with state law. Now,
- 38:51Speaker 4: another thing with the assessors is they can, through state law,
- 38:55Speaker 4: say the assessor must revalue your property at least once
- 39:00Speaker 4: a year or once every two years. They could put
- 39:04Speaker 4: that in state law. The assessor only does what state
- 39:08Speaker 4: law tells them to do. And so it's not that
- 39:11Speaker 4: the assessor is the bad guy in here. The assessor
- 39:15Speaker 4: is doing what the state has told him to do. But,
- 39:18Speaker 4: you know, some houses aren't revalued, but maybe once every
- 39:22Speaker 4: 10 years or every eight years, and then you get
- 39:24Speaker 4: whacked with this huge increase and you're saying, geez, how
- 39:28Speaker 4: can I afford this? And so the assessor is not
- 39:32Speaker 4: the devil in this whole scenario, but it is the
- 39:36Speaker 4: assessor that does come out and revalue property. But the
- 39:41Speaker 4: levies themselves are set by your taxing authorities, like the city,
- 39:46Speaker 4: like the school districts every year. You know Omaha Public School,
- 39:50Speaker 4: because of that big snafu with the amount of state
- 39:53Speaker 4: aid they had, they are going to raise the levy
- 39:56Speaker 4: for all those that live in OPS to help rectify
- 40:00Speaker 4: that shortfall that they have.
- 40:02Speaker 2: Absolutely. And I know that we've had a lot of
- 40:05Speaker 2: things to talk about today, Gene. You're welcome back today
- 40:09Speaker 2: on a Monday. And I know that there's a lot
- 40:10Speaker 2: of things that people have asked me today that we
- 40:14Speaker 2: haven't had the time to get into. I know we
- 40:16Speaker 2: have some guests throughout the week, but I would love
- 40:18Speaker 2: to get to some of these emails from you, the listeners,
- 40:21Speaker 2: because I've gotten some tremendous reception today.
- 40:24Speaker 3: Good, good.
- 40:25Speaker 2: And you know what?
- 40:25Speaker 1: Let's do that.
- 40:26Speaker 4: We'll have Dan Osborne on the first at the top
- 40:29Speaker 4: of the hour tomorrow. And then we'll try to get
- 40:31Speaker 4: to all of your questions, each and every one of them.
- 40:34Speaker 4: We'll get to them. Whether I have the right answer
- 40:36Speaker 4: or not, we'll get to those tomorrow. You know, before
- 40:39Speaker 4: we go off the air, I want to say one thing.
- 40:41Speaker 4: I want to say happy birthday to a beautiful lady
- 40:44Speaker 4: named Dorothy Beitler. Dorothy Beitler lives in Omaha. She just
- 40:48Speaker 4: had her 100th birthday. I ran into her the other day,
- 40:52Speaker 4: and she was out shopping. I mean, she had pretty
- 40:55Speaker 4: clothes on and makeup on, and she is just an
- 40:58Speaker 4: adorable lady. Her son is Chris Beitler, who was the
- 41:03Speaker 4: mayor of Lincoln. He was the mayor of Lincoln from
- 41:05Speaker 4: 2007 to 2019. He was mayor for 12 years, like
- 41:09Speaker 4: I was, and he was the 51st mayor of Lincoln,
- 41:12Speaker 4: like I was the 51st mayor of Omaha.
- 41:18Speaker 1: Is a Republican. And so Dorothy used to send me
- 41:21Speaker 1: campaign money. She's a doll.
- 41:22Speaker 4: But Dorothy, if you are listening by any chance, happy,
- 41:26Speaker 4: happy 100th birthday to you.
- 41:28Speaker 2: Well, Dorothy, happy birthday. 100 years old. That's quite remarkable.
- 41:32Speaker 4: She looked absolutely great. But that's it for us today.
- 41:36Speaker 4: Time flies when you're having fun, doesn't it, Peyton? Thank
- 41:39Speaker 4: you all for spending this hour with us. We'd love
- 41:41Speaker 4: for you to join us again tomorrow. Dan Osborne will
- 41:44Speaker 4: be into the studio, and we will get to the
- 41:47Speaker 4: emails that you sent today, tomorrow, on the bottom of
- 41:51Speaker 4: the show in the second half hour.
- 41:52Speaker 1: I'm Jean Stothert. It's great to be back, and this
- 41:55Speaker 1: is 1110 KFAB.
- 42:01Speaker 2: Something to talk about.