Latest / Community D.C. / Community DC Dr. Heather Jenkins The Literacy Lab
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to another edition of Community d C.
- 0:04Speaker 1: I'm your host Dennis Glasgow. This morning, we welcome to
- 0:06Speaker 1: the program doctor Heather Jenkins. She is the president and
- 0:10Speaker 1: CEO for the Literacy Lab in Washington, d C, a
- 0:14Speaker 1: nonprofit organization that provides children in the underresourced communities with
- 0:18Speaker 1: evidence based reading instruction. Their goal is to close the
- 0:22Speaker 1: literacy gap for children ages three to grade three, ensuring
- 0:26Speaker 1: students are reading at grade level before they make a
- 0:29Speaker 1: critical shift from learning to read to reading to learn.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Here's my conversation with Heather. I hope you enjoy it
- 0:35Speaker 1: as much as I did. Good morning, Heather, Good morning. Well,
- 0:38Speaker 1: it is great to have you aboard Community DC for
- 0:40Speaker 1: the first time, so welcome. And I did a short
- 0:43Speaker 1: little intro about Literacy Lab, but I would love to
- 0:46Speaker 1: get the history of it. I know that everything was
- 0:48Speaker 1: born in two thousand and nine, so it's been around
- 0:50Speaker 1: for about seventeen years. How did everything get started?
- 0:52Speaker 2: Yes, so our co CEOs, who were also the co founders,
- 0:56Speaker 2: were teachers in a Washington in DC high school and
- 1:02Speaker 2: they were working with ninth graders and saw that the
- 1:04Speaker 2: vast majority of their ninth readers were not anywhere near
- 1:09Speaker 2: grade level literacy, and really we're kind of struggling.
- 1:12Speaker 3: With what do we do about this?
- 1:15Speaker 2: These young people are talented and wonderful and incredibly behind,
- 1:20Speaker 2: and so they really didn't feel that they could kind
- 1:23Speaker 2: of tackle that challenge within the high school setting. They
- 1:27Speaker 2: ended up leaving teaching and founding the Literacy Lab, And
- 1:32Speaker 2: originally we were kind of an after school program, and
- 1:37Speaker 2: then in twenty twelve, through a variety of some partnerships
- 1:40Speaker 2: that we had made, we were selected as a replication
- 1:45Speaker 2: partner for the Reading Core model, which was really considered
- 1:48Speaker 2: one of the one of the best literacy models on
- 1:52Speaker 2: the market, and that really changed the trajectory of the
- 1:57Speaker 2: organization and how we kind of ended up moving from
- 2:00Speaker 2: being Washington, d c. To having kind of multiple locations
- 2:04Speaker 2: across the country. That also is when we became an
- 2:07Speaker 2: AmeriCorps organization, which again kind of changed the footprint in
- 2:12Speaker 2: terms of at the height of the work, we had
- 2:15Speaker 2: about three hundred AmeriCorps members across multiple locations providing literacy
- 2:22Speaker 2: services to students in pre K through third grade.
- 2:26Speaker 3: So that's kind of where everything began.
- 2:30Speaker 2: As that was taking off in twenty sixteen through a
- 2:34Speaker 2: partnership with DC Public Schools and some leaders in DC
- 2:39Speaker 2: who were really kind of looking at the literacy crisis
- 2:43Speaker 2: and also the underrepresentation of men of color in education
- 2:50Speaker 2: kind of presented the Literacy Lab with an opportunity to
- 2:53Speaker 2: host a program called the Leading Men Fellowship, and based
- 2:57Speaker 2: on our organization, k what you know the work that
- 3:01Speaker 2: we were doing through the America Program, we said absolutely yes.
- 3:06Speaker 3: That program also kind.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Of took off and ended up in Baltimore and Virginia
- 3:11Speaker 2: and multiple other locations as well, and we ran that
- 3:16Speaker 2: program right through to twenty twenty five. When we ended
- 3:23Speaker 2: up opening up that program, that was after actually closing
- 3:28Speaker 2: our America Program in twenty twenty four. I'm happy to
- 3:31Speaker 2: share more about the why for that, But we then
- 3:35Speaker 2: opened up the Fellowship and really wanted to focus on
- 3:38Speaker 2: community rooted educators. We know that the research is very
- 3:43Speaker 2: very clear when children see themselves reflected in their teachers,
- 3:48Speaker 2: they really thrive socially, emotionally, and academically. And so our
- 3:53Speaker 2: work really helps folks who have an interest in education
- 3:56Speaker 2: from within the communities that we work with, who don't
- 4:00Speaker 2: have any background in education. You don't need to have
- 4:02Speaker 2: a degree in education you actually don't need to have
- 4:05Speaker 2: anything other than a high school diploma to join our program,
- 4:09Speaker 2: and that's something that sets us apart from other teacher
- 4:12Speaker 2: prep programs where usually you need to have a bachelor's degree.
- 4:16Speaker 2: We say, if you have graduated high school and you
- 4:18Speaker 2: have an interest in supporting the education of our youngest learners,
- 4:23Speaker 2: come on in and we will provide you with not
- 4:26Speaker 2: only what you need to work with those students in
- 4:30Speaker 2: the moment, but also provide you with some career pathways
- 4:34Speaker 2: to kind of move you toward your goals in an
- 4:37Speaker 2: education career outstanding?
- 4:39Speaker 1: Will you really set the map for us, Heather, for
- 4:41Speaker 1: the next thirty minutes, to really find out about a
- 4:43Speaker 1: lot about Literacy Lab. I do want to do this
- 4:45Speaker 1: because we have a lot to talk about the programs
- 4:48Speaker 1: and how you're funded, and all the different things that
- 4:51Speaker 1: you do and how far your net is. I do
- 4:54Speaker 1: want to talk about just kind of setting the table
- 4:56Speaker 1: for our listeners about what you do. Because you were
- 4:58Speaker 1: starting to explain it. But but if you were to
- 5:00Speaker 1: give a thirty thousand foot view about what you do
- 5:02Speaker 1: and execute, what would you tell people?
- 5:05Speaker 3: Yeah, so I.
- 5:06Speaker 2: Would say our work really kind of is at the
- 5:09Speaker 2: nexus of the national literacy crisis and kind of that
- 5:14Speaker 2: the teacher workforce crisis that we've been experiencing really since
- 5:18Speaker 2: the pandemic before, but since then, and so we provide
- 5:23Speaker 2: direct literacy instruction to students. We do that through our
- 5:29Speaker 2: literacy Fellows. They are also part of our workforce development
- 5:34Speaker 2: program in terms of becoming teachers, and so they come
- 5:38Speaker 2: in they have about forty hours of training before they
- 5:42Speaker 2: go into classrooms, so they'll join us at the start
- 5:45Speaker 2: of the school year. They will get this training not
- 5:47Speaker 2: only in literacy instruction, but also in child development and
- 5:52Speaker 2: classroom management.
- 5:53Speaker 3: And just kind of being in the classroom.
- 5:55Speaker 2: And then they are placed with a lead teacher in
- 5:58Speaker 2: a classroom and they are there to provide specific literacy
- 6:03Speaker 2: services for kind of a five hour period that they
- 6:07Speaker 2: are there every single day that school is open. They
- 6:09Speaker 2: are there for those five hours and they're providing whole
- 6:12Speaker 2: class instruction, they're providing small group instruction, and they're also
- 6:16Speaker 2: providing individualized instruction. And kind of how that works is
- 6:21Speaker 2: based on where students are in terms of their needs.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Whole class instruction is kind of moving the entire class forward.
- 6:28Speaker 2: In terms of our pre kindergarteners and getting them ready
- 6:31Speaker 2: for kindergarten. The next group that would be in a
- 6:34Speaker 2: small group of students who are kind of not on
- 6:37Speaker 2: grade level but approaching, and then those students who need
- 6:41Speaker 2: the most support will have that one on one support.
- 6:44Speaker 2: And there's kind of a schedule that we work out
- 6:47Speaker 2: with the classroom teacher in terms of where our fellows
- 6:50Speaker 2: are kind of plugging in throughout the day to kind
- 6:53Speaker 2: of meet the requirements that our program is. If we
- 6:56Speaker 2: don't follow that with fidelity, we're not going to see
- 6:59Speaker 2: the results. So we work really closely with our classroom
- 7:02Speaker 2: teachers to say this is what we do and how
- 7:05Speaker 2: we do it, and really educate them on it so that
- 7:07Speaker 2: they can say, Okay, this is kind of the flow
- 7:09Speaker 2: of the classroom, and this is how the fellow is
- 7:13Speaker 2: able to really get in there and provide that literacy support.
- 7:17Speaker 2: So they are doing that during the day. They also
- 7:21Speaker 2: have additional professional development and time that they are with
- 7:25Speaker 2: us with our staff, yes, in terms of more literacy instruction,
- 7:30Speaker 2: and we're constantly refining those skills based on some observation
- 7:34Speaker 2: coaching that we do for our fellows. But then we
- 7:37Speaker 2: also have the part that is really about them and
- 7:39Speaker 2: their professional growth. What are things that will be really
- 7:43Speaker 2: helpful to them as they move into their next steps
- 7:48Speaker 2: in their career and education. So the fellowship is a
- 7:50Speaker 2: one year program. There is an option to come back
- 7:53Speaker 2: for a second year. And so the work that we've
- 7:56Speaker 2: been doing really over the past years to really kind
- 7:59Speaker 2: of hotify this is kind of what we're doing with
- 8:02Speaker 2: folks in the first year. This is what we're doing
- 8:05Speaker 2: with folks in the second year who weren't quite ready
- 8:07Speaker 2: to take their next step outside of the Literacy Lab
- 8:10Speaker 2: and need a little bit more time with us, but
- 8:12Speaker 2: also already get the program for a year, and so
- 8:15Speaker 2: we want to provide them with some acceleration as well.
- 8:19Speaker 2: So I think, in a nutshell, that's that's what we do.
- 8:23Speaker 1: You know, it is so outstanding, it's almost a twofer
- 8:25Speaker 1: that you're doing here. Not only are these kids getting
- 8:28Speaker 1: some extra reading in and working on all literacy issues
- 8:31Speaker 1: that the DMB has specifically in Washington, DC, and I
- 8:34Speaker 1: do want to talk about your net and more criterions
- 8:37Speaker 1: a second, but also the teachers getting real world experience.
- 8:40Speaker 1: You know, you can read so many textbooks or have
- 8:43Speaker 1: somebody talk at you or look at a PowerPoint. But
- 8:45Speaker 1: the feedback MutS be extraordinary because they get that real world,
- 8:50Speaker 1: hands on experience and you know, it doesn't matter what
- 8:53Speaker 1: you do for a living, that you get to actually
- 8:55Speaker 1: trained to do that is extraordinary. I think it's a
- 8:58Speaker 1: great idea.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Yeah, we've just heard positive results not only from our fellows,
- 9:03Speaker 2: but also the schools that we work with who end
- 9:07Speaker 2: up hiring our fellows because of how they perform in
- 9:10Speaker 2: that year. And yeah, absolutely, I was a classroom teacher
- 9:13Speaker 2: myself in my prior life, and nothing really.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Prepares you for it other than doing it.
- 9:20Speaker 2: And I think something that we have seen is that,
- 9:23Speaker 2: for example, some fellows have realized I love working with kids,
- 9:27Speaker 2: I love working with young people, but I'm not sure
- 9:30Speaker 2: classroom teacher is the right role for me. And we've
- 9:33Speaker 2: had folks go into counseling or speech pathology or some
- 9:36Speaker 2: other kind of education related fields but not being in
- 9:40Speaker 2: the classroom. We've had some since our fellowship to date
- 9:44Speaker 2: has been focused on pre K Some have said they're
- 9:49Speaker 2: really cute, and.
- 9:50Speaker 3: I really love that.
- 9:51Speaker 2: However, I think an older age group, I definitely know
- 9:54Speaker 2: I want to be a classroom teacher, but I'm thinking
- 9:57Speaker 2: that maybe kindergarten, first grade, maybe middles school is where
- 10:01Speaker 2: I want to be, And they wouldn't have necessarily known
- 10:04Speaker 2: that without kind of having this exposure and something that
- 10:08Speaker 2: will be coming for our new fellows that will be
- 10:11Speaker 2: joining us this fall will actually be expanding and we'll
- 10:15Speaker 2: be working with kindergarten excuse me, pre k kindergarten and
- 10:19Speaker 2: first grade students, So those fellows will really get a
- 10:22Speaker 2: taste of working with those three different age groups and
- 10:25Speaker 2: be able to get a sense does one of these fit?
- 10:29Speaker 2: Am I still maybe looking for something that's in the
- 10:32Speaker 2: older elementary grades or beyond very good?
- 10:35Speaker 1: So I alluded to this. So when it comes to
- 10:37Speaker 1: your net in the D and F based out of DC,
- 10:39Speaker 1: how far is it spread out.
- 10:41Speaker 2: In terms of in d C, we have overwhelmingly served.
- 10:47Speaker 2: We've served actually in I think almost every ward in
- 10:50Speaker 2: d C. We really yeah, we really look at the
- 10:54Speaker 2: data and as we have really focused and concentrated seven
- 11:00Speaker 2: and eight when you look at the data are the
- 11:02Speaker 2: places where we've spent a bulk of our time. But
- 11:05Speaker 2: certainly wards for and five were and work for this year.
- 11:09Speaker 2: So it also it depends on looking at that literacy
- 11:13Speaker 2: data and where the need is greate, but also looking
- 11:15Speaker 2: at our partners and kind of their needs and how
- 11:19Speaker 2: those needs might change. Here to you, there might be
- 11:22Speaker 2: a partner who really needs us for a certain set
- 11:24Speaker 2: of years and.
- 11:25Speaker 3: Then maybe they don't or maybe they don't have some
- 11:27Speaker 3: of their funding.
- 11:28Speaker 2: We've all experienced various funding cuts in the education field,
- 11:32Speaker 2: nonprofit and in schools, so it's also kind of depending
- 11:37Speaker 2: on kind of partner needs and you know, the funding
- 11:41Speaker 2: to make sure that we're able to implement the work
- 11:45Speaker 2: as well.
- 11:45Speaker 1: You know, Heather, when we get an opportunity to talk
- 11:48Speaker 1: to great people like you and your team, thank god
- 11:51Speaker 1: you're around because I know and I want to ask
- 11:53Speaker 1: you about data and literacy issues that are in DC.
- 11:56Speaker 1: And listen, this is not exclusive to DC, folks. There
- 11:58Speaker 1: are literacy issues all over the world, specifically in the
- 12:01Speaker 1: United States. And we can go to a multiple reasons
- 12:04Speaker 1: why and it can be its own podcast. And I
- 12:07Speaker 1: know that sometimes data can be pretty shocking, Heather. So
- 12:11Speaker 1: with that said, what's the latest data that you're working
- 12:13Speaker 1: with when it comes to literacy in DC.
- 12:16Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean nationally, d C is actually doing well.
- 12:21Speaker 2: And I say that, and I want to say relatively speaking.
- 12:25Speaker 2: Every time I have an opportunity to speak, I use
- 12:28Speaker 2: the language national literacy crisis, because it is it is
- 12:32Speaker 2: a national crisis. It affects across populations across the country.
- 12:38Speaker 2: Does it hit certain communities harder than others, absolutely, but
- 12:43Speaker 2: it is really something that nationally we should be thinking
- 12:47Speaker 2: more about and talking more about, and taking more actions.
- 12:50Speaker 2: So I just want to say that, so relative to
- 12:53Speaker 2: the rest of the country.
- 12:55Speaker 3: DC has actually improved over the past few years.
- 12:59Speaker 2: And I will say like we are one of many
- 13:02Speaker 2: partners that DC has really brought in to achieve those results.
- 13:07Speaker 3: And I think one of the.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Things that we know and we see is that when
- 13:11Speaker 2: you look at the way classrooms are set up, if
- 13:14Speaker 2: you have a teacher who is and I say at
- 13:17Speaker 2: this point, like lucky enough, because not every teacher has
- 13:20Speaker 2: a pair of professional who is supporting them, a teacher
- 13:24Speaker 2: ad a teacher assistant who is supporting them as their
- 13:27Speaker 2: partner in the classroom. But even when they do, those
- 13:31Speaker 2: two folks are not able to meet the needs of
- 13:34Speaker 2: all of the children. And in one class, when we assess,
- 13:37Speaker 2: we are seeing students who are incredibly far from grade level,
- 13:43Speaker 2: shockingly so.
- 13:44Speaker 3: And then We're seeing students who are on or.
- 13:47Speaker 2: Above grade level right and everything in between. And so
- 13:51Speaker 2: how does one teacher with their assistant kind of structure
- 13:56Speaker 2: the day and the content to meet all of those
- 13:59Speaker 2: needs they can't at And that's where we and other
- 14:02Speaker 2: partners come in because we're able to provide that targeted support. So,
- 14:07Speaker 2: you know, things have definitely improved in DC at large.
- 14:11Speaker 2: I will say one of the things that I caution
- 14:15Speaker 2: when people look at that data is you have to
- 14:18Speaker 2: look at each ward because there's a pretty big gap
- 14:21Speaker 2: when you look at wards where there is more resources,
- 14:25Speaker 2: where there are more resources, and wards where there are less.
- 14:29Speaker 2: When you look at wards that are overwhelmingly kind of
- 14:32Speaker 2: higher concentrations of poverty and things like that, greater disinvestment,
- 14:38Speaker 2: you see the literacy spores follow suit.
- 14:42Speaker 3: Right, No one should be shocked by that.
- 14:45Speaker 2: More resources, you know, more professional development for teachers, smaller
- 14:51Speaker 2: class sizes, all of those things, right along with just
- 14:54Speaker 2: general wealth in the community is going to create a
- 14:59Speaker 2: situation where those students are going to thrive, They are
- 15:02Speaker 2: going to learn more, they are going to be able
- 15:05Speaker 2: to kind of accelerate in a way that where there's
- 15:08Speaker 2: less resources, higher concentrations of poverty where you look at
- 15:13Speaker 2: kind the adult populations in those wards and the educational
- 15:17Speaker 2: attainment of those adult populations, because the community around the
- 15:21Speaker 2: child is the fird teacher, right, and so for example,
- 15:25Speaker 2: if I'm reading to my kids when they were babies,
- 15:28Speaker 2: which I did, right, that changes their trajectory. I was
- 15:33Speaker 2: an educator, I had education. I knew to do that, right,
- 15:37Speaker 2: I had the resources to do that. Where I believe
- 15:40Speaker 2: every single parent in every ward in.
- 15:43Speaker 3: DC absolutely wants the best for their children.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Some have greater access and greater knowledge than others, and
- 15:51Speaker 2: that is going to then be brought into the school
- 15:53Speaker 2: and we are able to see that when we kind
- 15:56Speaker 2: of go in and assess.
- 15:57Speaker 1: I imagine that when parents or caregivers and schools find
- 16:00Speaker 1: out about Literacy Lab, they're just blown away with excitement
- 16:04Speaker 1: that you're here along with your team. With that said,
- 16:07Speaker 1: when somebody wants to partner with you when it comes
- 16:10Speaker 1: to the schoolassic side, how does everything work?
- 16:14Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say we get a lot of referrals,
- 16:18Speaker 2: which is great. You know, if we've been around for
- 16:20Speaker 2: a while, and again, we were founded in d C,
- 16:22Speaker 2: so lots of folks know us, and so we'll you know,
- 16:25Speaker 2: kind of get outreach to any one of us, either
- 16:30Speaker 2: on the programmatic side, or sometimes folks will come directly
- 16:33Speaker 2: to me if my name emails the most visible on
- 16:36Speaker 2: the website and just kind of say here's I'm connected
- 16:40Speaker 2: to this.
- 16:40Speaker 3: School or this early learning center.
- 16:42Speaker 2: And we are definitely seeing, you know, some challenges with literacy.
- 16:47Speaker 3: We're looking for X, Y and Z. Are you able
- 16:50Speaker 3: to help us out?
- 16:51Speaker 2: And now we're really in a better position as we
- 16:54Speaker 2: go into next year to be able to say yes
- 16:58Speaker 2: to more of the request that we've had over the years.
- 17:01Speaker 2: We're now able to provide after school in summer programming,
- 17:05Speaker 2: which is something we weren't able to provide before. We're
- 17:08Speaker 2: really excited about that, Like I mentioned, more grade levels,
- 17:11Speaker 2: and also we're able to provide training and coaching for teachers,
- 17:16Speaker 2: classroom assistance, pair of professionals that really amplifies the impact
- 17:21Speaker 2: of the work in the schools. So folks can reach
- 17:23Speaker 2: out to us. I'm on our website. Everybody's kind of
- 17:27Speaker 2: on our website to reach out to.
- 17:31Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about a bigger question about
- 17:34Speaker 1: us versus the world, and I think it's been well documented.
- 17:37Speaker 1: Then it comes to math and reading and writing. Sometimes
- 17:41Speaker 1: we big shortfalls with other countries. Now, with that said,
- 17:45Speaker 1: we are a huge country, and there are economic discrepancies
- 17:49Speaker 1: all over the place, especially when you get outside and
- 17:51Speaker 1: inside of urban areas. So with that said, when you
- 17:56Speaker 1: take a look at some of the data around the world,
- 17:58Speaker 1: how are we comparing right now to where we're at
- 18:01Speaker 1: and where they're at.
- 18:03Speaker 2: You know, we have a lot of room will I
- 18:05Speaker 2: will say, we have a lot of room for improvement.
- 18:09Speaker 3: I think that.
- 18:11Speaker 2: I have a background in educational research as well, and
- 18:14Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm always struck by when
- 18:17Speaker 2: I look at kind of the decisions that we make
- 18:21Speaker 2: in US educationally, particularly public education, we don't often follow
- 18:27Speaker 2: the most compelling research around what really has a positive impact,
- 18:35Speaker 2: or we do it long after other countries have been
- 18:39Speaker 2: doing it for a very long time, right, And so
- 18:42Speaker 2: those are the kinds of things that you know, when
- 18:45Speaker 2: we're one of the wealthiest nations in the world, I
- 18:47Speaker 2: do kind of scratch my head about why are we
- 18:50Speaker 2: We're still.
- 18:51Speaker 3: Using in a lot of places strategies from the nineteen seventies.
- 18:56Speaker 1: Yeah, the irony in terms.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Yeah, and not only literacy, but just in general teaching
- 19:02Speaker 2: and learning, we've kind of relied.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Can I ask you about that? Is that a shortfall
- 19:07Speaker 1: of cash and resources? Is that why that's happening that
- 19:10Speaker 1: we're so far I mean, we're talking about fifty years
- 19:14Speaker 1: of stuff that we're still using. I mean, my goodness,
- 19:17Speaker 1: that's a little alarming, it is.
- 19:20Speaker 2: And I don't think it's just a matter of cash
- 19:24Speaker 2: and resources. I think, you know, as humans, we get
- 19:29Speaker 2: comfortable with things and we're not necessarily always wanting to change.
- 19:35Speaker 2: And I think that I have found that particularly so
- 19:40Speaker 2: in education. I think that if you were to ask
- 19:44Speaker 2: a lot of teachers, and I know I felt this
- 19:48Speaker 2: way as a teacher myself, there wasn't always a good
- 19:52Speaker 2: kind of connection to kind of the community needs and
- 19:56Speaker 2: kind of decisions that are being made, you know, sometimes
- 20:00Speaker 2: at the district level, sometimes at a school level, right
- 20:03Speaker 2: as we work with partners.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Who are thinking about this.
- 20:08Speaker 2: So again that that is a general statement, and we
- 20:13Speaker 2: work every day with partners who are thinking about it,
- 20:16Speaker 2: who are looking at the data, who are saying what
- 20:19Speaker 2: can we do differently and better to improve the education
- 20:24Speaker 2: that we provide our students.
- 20:26Speaker 3: But I think there's kind of more.
- 20:30Speaker 2: National decisions that are made that then kind of trickle
- 20:34Speaker 2: down to states and then localities that you know, we
- 20:41Speaker 2: talk about the science of reading that I think this
- 20:43Speaker 2: is a good one, right, this is very much the language.
- 20:46Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of legislation coming out that you know,
- 20:50Speaker 2: nothing can be used in schools that is not aligned
- 20:52Speaker 2: with the science of reading. Dennis, we were founded using
- 20:56Speaker 2: the science of reading in two thousand and nine.
- 20:59Speaker 3: It's not you, it's.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Not something revolutionary, it's not something that just came out,
- 21:05Speaker 2: and it's actually something that goes back to a more
- 21:09Speaker 2: phonics based way of teaching and learning. That was something
- 21:15Speaker 2: that I remember in the eighties having, right, and so
- 21:18Speaker 2: we kind of cycle through different like oh, this is
- 21:22Speaker 2: the thing, and then we put all of our eggs
- 21:24Speaker 2: in that basket. I think we don't necessarily make sure
- 21:28Speaker 2: that every educator has all of the training that they
- 21:32Speaker 2: need to then take that and really implement that with fidelity.
- 21:37Speaker 2: But we tend to kind of hop around where the
- 21:42Speaker 2: research has been clear for a really long time that
- 21:45Speaker 2: there's a certain again science behind how we structure the
- 21:51Speaker 2: learning for literacy, how we do it so that students
- 21:56Speaker 2: are able to kind of transfer I'm practicing reading in
- 22:01Speaker 2: this context, but I can take my reading skills then
- 22:04Speaker 2: to this other very different context, right, And that's something
- 22:08Speaker 2: that even in a lot of the quote unquote intervention
- 22:14Speaker 2: and additive instructional literacy, we're not always paying attention to
- 22:20Speaker 2: those things. And that's something that my team and I
- 22:23Speaker 2: want to make sure, like not just that a student
- 22:26Speaker 2: can read something, but what does the data say about
- 22:30Speaker 2: them actually being able to understand it and ask questions
- 22:33Speaker 2: about it? And what does the data say about them
- 22:36Speaker 2: being able to take those skills and take them to history,
- 22:40Speaker 2: to science, to understanding a mathematical word problem, because that's
- 22:45Speaker 2: literacy as well. And so I think that we've put
- 22:48Speaker 2: literacy in this is English Language arts.
- 22:51Speaker 3: We're going to do it in a particular context.
- 22:53Speaker 2: So we're going to do it in a particular way
- 22:56Speaker 2: instead of really looking at literacy as a interdisciplinary skill
- 23:02Speaker 2: that needs to be taught in interdisciplinary ways.
- 23:06Speaker 1: Very good. Thank you for that, Heather. And when we
- 23:09Speaker 1: get our listeners at Community DC excited about certain subjects
- 23:13Speaker 1: like this one that's helping a lot of young people
- 23:15Speaker 1: and educators out there, they always want to know how
- 23:17Speaker 1: are you funded and how can they help? So how
- 23:19Speaker 1: are you funded.
- 23:21Speaker 2: Yes, So we are overwhelmingly funded philanthropically at the moment.
- 23:28Speaker 2: We did have a lot of government funding that has
- 23:31Speaker 2: since really changed over the past couple of years, what's
- 23:35Speaker 2: kind of changes in the federal landscape, and so we
- 23:40Speaker 2: you know, in DC, we've had tried and true philanthropic
- 23:44Speaker 2: partners who've been with us pretty much since the beginning,
- 23:48Speaker 2: and we're really really grateful to.
- 23:50Speaker 3: Those folks because they've stuck with us through a lot.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Of changes that we need to make to ensure that
- 23:57Speaker 2: we're able to sustain our work and then you know,
- 24:00Speaker 2: really be able to scale through this new strategy that
- 24:04Speaker 2: we have, and so that's foundations, that's also individuals. We
- 24:09Speaker 2: also do have contracts with our schools. We always want
- 24:14Speaker 2: to make sure that that is kept low because again,
- 24:17Speaker 2: a lot of the schools that we work with would
- 24:19Speaker 2: be considered under resourced and so we're not going to
- 24:23Speaker 2: kind of charge them the bulk of the fees. We're
- 24:27Speaker 2: hoping that there's kind of wrap around from that philanthropic community.
- 24:33Speaker 2: We're hoping to get some corporate support in there as
- 24:36Speaker 2: we really seek to diversify things a bit more and
- 24:39Speaker 2: kind of replace some of the government funding that we
- 24:42Speaker 2: used to have, and so folks can get involved on
- 24:45Speaker 2: our on our website, there's a development page, there's lots
- 24:48Speaker 2: of places to kind of donate and learn more on
- 24:51Speaker 2: our website, and we also welcome there's a partnerships email
- 24:55Speaker 2: for folks who are interested in kind of reaching out
- 24:58Speaker 2: about partnerships, but also folks who just have any questions
- 25:02Speaker 2: and kind of are listening to this and just like
- 25:05Speaker 2: want to dig in and understand a little bit more.
- 25:07Speaker 3: It will come as no surprise to.
- 25:09Speaker 2: Anyone who has spent any amount of time with me
- 25:12Speaker 2: that I love talking about this work. I'm incredibly passionate
- 25:15Speaker 2: about it. My email is on the website, and anybody
- 25:18Speaker 2: who wanted to reach out and just you know, kind
- 25:20Speaker 2: of connect with me and find out more, I'm always
- 25:23Speaker 2: happy to do that.
- 25:24Speaker 1: Well, it's talking to surprise you. Every nonprofit we we've
- 25:27Speaker 1: talked to, nobody is passionless. Say everybody's got passion because
- 25:31Speaker 1: it's a one or two person operation, and we really
- 25:34Speaker 1: appreciate that. I only have about four minutes left, but
- 25:36Speaker 1: I don't know if you have time to till it.
- 25:38Speaker 1: But it's kind of the and I'd love to ask
- 25:40Speaker 1: this question about this is why we get up every day.
- 25:42Speaker 1: You've been with the organization for five and a half years.
- 25:44Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen some very special stories and some
- 25:48Speaker 1: incredible things, also some hardshets out there. But is there
- 25:50Speaker 1: something quickly you could share with us about this is
- 25:52Speaker 1: why we get up every day. Kind of story about
- 25:54Speaker 1: something special that happened with a family or an educator,
- 25:56Speaker 1: or something that just touched your heart.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll share things.
- 26:01Speaker 2: Really for the two sides of our dual model.
- 26:06Speaker 3: I remember being on a site visit.
- 26:08Speaker 2: We had some of our again longtime DC funders who
- 26:11Speaker 2: were coming in to kind of see the work in action.
- 26:13Speaker 2: We were in a pre K classroom and my team
- 26:16Speaker 2: had left with our guests, and I was coloring and
- 26:20Speaker 2: talking with students. And they are the reason that we
- 26:24Speaker 2: get up and do this. They are the reason that,
- 26:26Speaker 2: through some incredible challenges that we faced organizationally, we keep
- 26:31Speaker 2: on going. That is really the heart and soul of
- 26:36Speaker 2: the work is being able to bring this work to
- 26:40Speaker 2: students and see them grow and thrive. And this morning
- 26:44Speaker 2: I received an email from a former fellow who is
- 26:48Speaker 2: now a classroom teacher, and he is on our alumni
- 26:51Speaker 2: board and he's just been very, very involved since being
- 26:55Speaker 2: a fellow back in like twenty eighteen. And he just
- 26:58Speaker 2: sent me an email this morning reiterating how much the
- 27:02Speaker 2: Literacy Lab has meant to him and what he learned
- 27:05Speaker 2: about teaching and learning through being with us, and that
- 27:09Speaker 2: whether it's as an alumni board member, as a fundraiser,
- 27:12Speaker 2: in any way that he can support the organization. That
- 27:16Speaker 2: just kind of said like, I'm here, you know, kind of.
- 27:19Speaker 3: Put me in coach. I'm right.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I love that.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Ever the organization, yeah, needs me to do.
- 27:24Speaker 2: And he's lovely, I mean, and he just really represents
- 27:27Speaker 2: I mean, that's who our fellows are, that's who our
- 27:29Speaker 2: alumni are, and we're just incredibly lucky and grateful.
- 27:34Speaker 1: Well, that's really special, and I feedback is so big,
- 27:37Speaker 1: especially what you do, because you know, always the proof
- 27:40Speaker 1: is in the pudd and you're doing all this hard work,
- 27:42Speaker 1: but when you get alumni and people that have gone
- 27:44Speaker 1: through the program paying it forward, it's absolutely extraordinary. So
- 27:47Speaker 1: I love to hear that. Well, let's do this. I
- 27:49Speaker 1: want to get some final thoughts from me. In the
- 27:51Speaker 1: last couple of minutes that we have. I'd like for
- 27:53Speaker 1: you to get the website and I know that a
- 27:55Speaker 1: lot of small, medium, and larger businesses listen to this program,
- 27:59Speaker 1: and so I mean they're really turn them on that
- 28:00Speaker 1: people are doing some incredible work and need some funding.
- 28:03Speaker 1: So I know that people can reach out to you
- 28:04Speaker 1: for that. But if you could give us some final
- 28:07Speaker 1: thoughts about our talk and recap everything that we chatted about, Heather,
- 28:10Speaker 1: the floor is yours.
- 28:12Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, thank you so much.
- 28:14Speaker 2: You know, again, our work is essential not just for education,
- 28:19Speaker 2: but for success in life. Folks are not able to
- 28:23Speaker 2: thrive to communicate without literacy skills. In addition to our students,
- 28:28Speaker 2: we have over one hundred and thirty million adults who
- 28:31Speaker 2: are not able to read beyond a fourth or fifth
- 28:35Speaker 2: grade level. And that just speaks volumes about the nature
- 28:40Speaker 2: and depth of this challenge. And we're working every day
- 28:43Speaker 2: to kind of close these gaps. And I'm just really
- 28:47Speaker 2: grateful that we're able to focus on the literacy portion
- 28:51Speaker 2: and focus on making sure that there are more and
- 28:55Speaker 2: more educators who have this literacy expertise to go into
- 29:00Speaker 2: classrooms and continue this amazing work. And our website is
- 29:04Speaker 2: www dot the Literacy Lab dot org. There's lots of
- 29:08Speaker 2: great information on our different program offerings and lots of
- 29:12Speaker 2: great information on ways to get involved. And like I said,
- 29:16Speaker 2: I am always available for anyone who is interested in
- 29:19Speaker 2: talking about any kind of partnership for their community outstanding hither.
- 29:24Speaker 1: I'm glad we found you. You're doing incredible work with
- 29:26Speaker 1: your team, and I know it's not a huge operation,
- 29:29Speaker 1: but you're knocking out of the park and making a
- 29:31Speaker 1: difference out there. And I know the parents and educators
- 29:34Speaker 1: and everybody just thrilled over what you're doing for the
- 29:36Speaker 1: DC region. So that's just wonderful. Thank you so much,
- 29:38Speaker 1: and I'm glad we could spotlight you on Community DC
- 29:41Speaker 1: and let's visit again real soon.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you to our communities.
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