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- 0:33Today is our Week 9 Hot Topics and Mailbag episode.
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- 1:13Exactly. And the better we get so plus
- 1:16help you helping us. Exactly, exactly, exactly what
- 1:19you said. He's been saying it forever.
- 1:21Yeah. He's been saying it as long as
- 1:23hills have been a thing, which are almost as old as money.
- 1:27So if you know, you know if you listen to one of those recent
- 1:31episodes. Yes, you can come here for the
- 1:34hockey, stay for the IQ points that's.
- 1:37Exactly the topography. That's a good word, actually.
- 1:43Yeah, yeah, I'm impressed. Josh.
- 1:46Thank you. I think it means what I think it
- 1:48means. OK, let's get into our hot
- 1:52topics. So these are topics that are hot
- 1:56around the league. I kind of just try and
- 1:58internalize what everyone seems to be talking about and then
- 2:01spit it out into our hot topics so that in case if we got a
- 2:04question about it, then I don't put it on here.
- 2:05So I try to cover more topics. Anyways, let's get into it.
- 2:08Firstly, this has been a hot topic all season.
- 2:10Luke Hughes slash Dougie Hamilton.
- 2:12Or should I put another slash and mention Simonich because
- 2:16what the heck is going on here? I know Hughes owners aren't
- 2:18happy. I know Hamilton owners aren't
- 2:19happy. Owners aren't nobody's.
- 2:22Nobody's running away with this spot and anyone who has this
- 2:25spot is doing nothing with it. What is going on with supposedly
- 2:28what should be one of the hottest power play one
- 2:30quarterback spots in the league? I mean, in my opinion, I think
- 2:34first of all, the loss of Jack Hughes definitely, definitely
- 2:38impedes on the success of this, you know, power play unit.
- 2:42We talked about, you know, featuring Brett getting more
- 2:44success out of this situation because they end up playing
- 2:46together. And I think we've already seen
- 2:48that, you know, them playing together has made both of their
- 2:51fantasy values go up. We've seen and and Timo as well,
- 2:55like the fact that they stacked the top line.
- 2:57Everybody there is is really growing in value.
- 2:59And I mean, he's sure we hollered and has a buy low and a
- 3:02continued little even after it didn't pop off right away.
- 3:04So I hope you were able to do that because right now you're
- 3:06reaping the rewards. But nonetheless, I think the
- 3:09fact that this power play is less good means that the power
- 3:11play defence on this are also less good.
- 3:13And the fact that they're already splitting adds to that
- 3:16as well. If I had to pick one guy rest of
- 3:18season, I'm think I'm still leaning Dougie just because he
- 3:22has the shot volume that, you know, Luke doesn't necessarily
- 3:25always have damage, not even putting in the conversation.
- 3:27I think that was just like a a little blip for for a moment
- 3:30when he scored a hat trick and they were like, alright, what
- 3:32can this guy do? Um, I'm waiting for.
- 3:35I'm waiting for the trade that gets them.
- 3:36Queen used to be honest, I feel that's gonna happen.
- 3:38I think either damage is going to be the way or Dougie or both.
- 3:40And Quinn Hughes will be the future power play one
- 3:43quarterback for the New Jersey Devils, putting that into the
- 3:45into the universe. Not that that's a feel like a
- 3:47hot take at this point, but yeah, I don't know if.
- 3:52That happens. I think Luke becomes better in a
- 3:55way because I think it's like, and it never would say that
- 3:57because I'm just gonna put them both on Power Play 1 probably
- 4:01one. I'm the because they're like a
- 4:03trio of brothers. I think it's like they're gonna
- 4:06do. Don't forget, we're gonna.
- 4:07Head guilt themselves into putting Luke on P1 and bumped
- 4:10off. Like who are you gonna jump off?
- 4:13It's gonna be a Mercer or Timo. Yeah, I think that's not the
- 4:16bump off is not the crazy part. I think it's more like I feel
- 4:18like teams don't like having two defensemen, but I don't think
- 4:20there's any actual player stopping that from happening.
- 4:23But anyway, we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves with this.
- 4:26Do you if that if this Quinn Hughes trade does happen, is
- 4:29this an off season thing or you think it could happen
- 4:31mid-season? I think it's most likely
- 4:33offseason could happen during the season depending on how sale
- 4:37happy Vancouver gets. Like we talked about in the
- 4:39previous episode that sure what is probably getting traded.
- 4:41I could see Garland getting traded.
- 4:43So all of those assets, I think only Peterson and potentially
- 4:47best are the guys that are safe on this team.
- 4:48Don't forget when he uses the captain to like the fact that
- 4:51it's just that we've already seen the reports and the rumors
- 4:54for years before that he wants to play with his brothers and
- 4:56they're not gonna play in Vancouver.
- 4:58So the only logical thing is he's going to play for New
- 5:00Jersey and his contract has what, two or three more years
- 5:03left? So I think they know that if
- 5:05they wait longer, they'll they might get nothing for him
- 5:08because at the end of the contract, he'll just sign with
- 5:10them for free. So might as well try to trade
- 5:12him now. And the volume might not even be
- 5:14100% because they know that the impending free agency.
- 5:18So I but this question is not about Queen Hughes and what he's
- 5:21going to do on New Jersey. So Luke used Doggy.
- 5:24I think Luke uses I don't wanna say a drop, but when he's on
- 5:27People one, he's a drop. The fact is he's on there every
- 5:29other game it feels like. So it's a tough situation to be
- 5:32if I had to own one of them. I want to own Dougie, but I'm
- 5:35not really happy. He's also been awful.
- 5:37Yeah, that's that's the thing. But I think better head for
- 5:39Dougie, especially when Jack comes back.
- 5:42Yeah, I'd characterize it as Nemeth is not restorable.
- 5:45I know he's been one of the most popular ads lately.
- 5:49Shoots and he blocked sometimes. Yeah, yeah, OK.
- 5:51He's he's streamable, but he's not Holsworthy.
- 5:54Luke Hughes is someone that I'm really not happy having on my
- 5:56team. Like it feels bad dropping him.
- 5:59It depends who's available, but like, you know, Brandon Clark
- 6:02getting reps at power play one. I would drop Hughes for Clark in
- 6:05a second. And then drops used for like
- 6:07aeronet BLOB. No, because I don't think that's
- 6:11worth rostering either. So it may as well go with the
- 6:13one who actually has some P1 exposure.
- 6:16But there's a lot of guys lower roster than Hughes that I would
- 6:19that would take for him. And then Dougie is like he's
- 6:21kind of in somewhere Vote for me with my team as Switch was at
- 6:24the start of the year where he's just absolutely awful straights
- 6:27EUR. But there's some guys you just
- 6:29don't drop, you waited. Like if you drop you, you lose
- 6:31all the value if you wait. I mean, you need to have the
- 6:34luxury to be able to wait it out and have essentially a dead
- 6:35roster spot, but he's still putting up some shots and some
- 6:38trickling of back cats. So it's not completely dead and
- 6:41brighter days have to be ahead because he's gotten almost 0
- 6:44points so it can only go up from here.
- 6:47I'm think I'm going to go Dougie, Luke and then a distance
- 6:50later, Simonovich. However, however, I'm not
- 6:55totally out on Luke. I think the way you guys are
- 6:57because like, look, this is this is still a Hughes brother who
- 7:01they drafted super high that they want to get going.
- 7:03So if there's no like on this team's winning, like they're not
- 7:06losing, right? And they're, they're winning.
- 7:09Battles though. Yeah, you're amalgamation of
- 7:12like, Power Player 1. So like, yes, for fancy, we want
- 7:15there to be OK. Hell, here we go.
- 7:17Typography. Amalgamation.
- 7:19Exactly. We know words.
- 7:22We know the best words. And because of that, I'm
- 7:25thinking that Luke's gonna get a bit more looks moving forward.
- 7:28I don't think anyone's gonna necessarily beat out anybody to
- 7:31the point that you're happy to own any of these guys.
- 7:34That being said, I still think Dougie's safer.
- 7:36Therefore, I would choose him first.
- 7:37Let's go to the next Hot TOPIC. Let's do it.
- 7:40Next, we've got UC Sara of the Nashville Predators.
- 7:43I think people who grabbed him this year were banking on him
- 7:46dropping in the draft because of how awful he was last year.
- 7:48And they're like, national can't possibly be as bad as they were
- 7:50last year. And then Nashville's like, hold
- 7:52my beer. We're going to be even worse.
- 7:54So people are wondering, is Sara's droppable?
- 7:58I, I mean, listen, I feel like he's been one of the guys that
- 8:02I've had the most questions about in the discord lately
- 8:04because they're owning sorrows. It's one of those situations
- 8:07that you feel bad dropping, but every week you just taking your
- 8:10goalie category. So what do you even do is like
- 8:12all Mark earlier in the season and all Mark a couple nights
- 8:15ago. So it's it's it's really tough
- 8:17when you're in the situation where this team is bad guys like
- 8:20Nashville is bad. They're gonna be running for the
- 8:22lottery again. They're going to be selling
- 8:24assets at the deadline. And Cyrus is like the only like
- 8:29speculation about Cyrus's value going up, I feel like is if he
- 8:31gets traded, which is a long shot at this point, so.
- 8:34I don't see it happening. No, so I, I think honestly, like
- 8:37you're, you're kind of stuck with him and you're gonna feel a
- 8:40huge sense of relief if you drop him and you just end up
- 8:44streaming from that from that, from that position.
- 8:46It really depends. If you're in a points league, I
- 8:48don't feel bad dropping at all because most likely he's getting
- 8:50a lot of negatives. If you're in a categories
- 8:52leagues, like he can ruin your categories with one bad game.
- 8:54So I'm, I want to sell if you can, but obviously know who's
- 8:59gonna be buying those at this point he's just throwing in the
- 9:02trade at best. And I'm thinking like if there's
- 9:05guys like Jet grieves on your on your waivers.
- 9:09Was gonna say let's like quickly before we, I mean Jake will say
- 9:13his piece but also like then we'll move on.
- 9:14But let's why don't we try and come up with the threshold of
- 9:17goalie that you would drop sparrows for?
- 9:19OK, Stuart Skinner. Yeah, I think it's Skinner has
- 9:23more upside than Soros. Does I'd rather have Skinner?
- 9:25What about PPL? That's tough.
- 9:31I feel like I'd rather sorrows than UPL.
- 9:33I think I'd rather UPL. What about you, Jakey?
- 9:37Probably Saros. Saros is the clear starter you
- 9:40know UPS has to fight with, like Colton Ellis.
- 9:42I just want to say one thing about this and just like there
- 9:45are people who are still not rostered in over 10% of leagues
- 9:50this year, goalies that I guarantee you by the end of the
- 9:52year will be 40 plus. We don't know them yet.
- 9:55We don't know who they are, but we'll also tells one of them.
- 10:00Yeah, that came out of nowhere and has been amazing.
- 10:03Like it's not over. Like it's always happens like
- 10:06around January. That's like when it's gets
- 10:08really difficult. But this is year after year
- 10:11after year. And look, perhaps this is the
- 10:13one year where I'm wrong about this.
- 10:15But like right now, had I missed out on picking up Walstead for
- 10:20Saros as an example, like I'd be pretty sad.
- 10:23So if you see there's like exactly Oscar all, maybe even
- 10:27Wedgewood. I'm in another league right now
- 10:29and I know we're getting off topic.
- 10:31Just one of the kind of hammer this point.
- 10:32I've Skinner chest circuit and Vladar and that's like I would
- 10:36have dropped Skinner and Vladar in a heartbeat knowing what
- 10:38Wallace this was going to do. So this is to say that my
- 10:41perspective don't drop Saros for you may think drop in for a
- 10:45streamer and I get that. But I think it's like if you see
- 10:48even a blip of potential future of your goalie being a starter,
- 10:51and it's not always easy to tell, but if you see that plus
- 10:54he's a good streamer, that's where I'm doing it for.
- 10:57Sure. The biggest question is
- 10:59obviously like your league format when it comes the
- 11:02goalies, it really influences a lot.
- 11:05If he's your third goalie and you can safely run 2 goalies,
- 11:08I've just cut them and move on. I'd pick up an extra D or an
- 11:11extra forward. But let's say he's your second
- 11:13goalie and you need 2 goalies. Then you have to make the
- 11:16decision of OK, am I cutting him to like stream log Devin Cooley
- 11:21and then you know whoever else gets hot after that like the The
- 11:25Who sows or the whatever. Like would you rather do that,
- 11:27put yourself in that situation or just hold sorrows through the
- 11:30downs right now? Because I think right now
- 11:32probably just cut them and then stream better production.
- 11:35And yeah, you have to, you have to dedicate the ads on your
- 11:38weekly basis to get production from the goalie position.
- 11:41But it's still gonna be more productive than holding sorrows
- 11:45and just getting negative numbers or just bad goalie
- 11:47categories. So you drop them for Jerry I.
- 11:50Would, Yeah, yes, See, that's exactly what I was going to say
- 11:53because it's like not high, super high roster.
- 11:56You know, Jerry on Yahoo is rusted and 39% of leagues and
- 12:00there is a potential for him to be the top goalie there.
- 12:03Another one, maybe, maybe Brandon Bussey, because there is
- 12:08a chance that he's the top goalie there, but like, dismiss.
- 12:10The coolness situation is like you have to make it.
- 12:12You have to make a decision on are you streaming it for the for
- 12:16multiple weeks or? That's what I'm saying, though,
- 12:18is like, Boosie has the power to be their guy.
- 12:21Coolly, I don't think there you go.
- 12:25That's overtaking from Wolf. So that's kind of where I'm at
- 12:27is if you see like potential for more longevity, that's when I'm
- 12:30doing it and I'm like moving on. Would you drop her for the
- 12:33Anderson though? No, no, because and because
- 12:37Freddy's had such bad injury history and like at least with
- 12:40pussy, it's like there's an unknown of how how good.
- 12:42Pussy can be potential there, yeah.
- 12:44Exactly. Recovery or Schmid at this
- 12:46point? No, no, no, because they have
- 12:50like a time horizon that's guaranteed.
- 12:51So exactly that's where I'm at, the longevity part.
- 12:55Our next hot topic that we've also kind of talked about, Devin
- 12:57Cooley, Dustin Wolf, do you have any worry as a wolf owner that
- 13:02coolly stealing starts or is it just a temporary thing and it'll
- 13:05wolf will get it back soon? In my head, this is simple.
- 13:08It's a temporary thing. Like we saw Wolf be amazing for
- 13:10them last season, like he he single handedly kept them in
- 13:13games and almost made a playoff push for them.
- 13:15I think the the amount of games that he's played is catching up
- 13:17to him a little bit and the team in front of him is is just not
- 13:19good. So I I think he's definitely
- 13:22susceptible to bad performances and Cooley has been a bright
- 13:24spot for them. So that's that's nice, but I
- 13:26don't expect this to last more than a week or two until he's
- 13:29back to getting all the stats. Yeah, you know, if Devin Cooley
- 13:33was like a high drafted pick, 22 years old, like I'd be scared.
- 13:36Except he's 28 and like. He's older than I.
- 13:39Thought yeah, and Wolf is 24. Like this is their goalie of the
- 13:43future. Like they're not gonna make him
- 13:45irrelevant, You know what I mean?
- 13:46Yeah, 100% fully agree. OK, moving on to our next one,
- 13:51John Carlson, Jacob Chicken. Has Chicken officially taken
- 13:56that power play one spot? Is Carlson cooked?
- 13:58What do you guys think? So when you went into the Upside
- 14:01Down last episode, you dove into this a little bit, Kevin and I
- 14:04about how what I think is kind of suss here in general is that
- 14:08both defensemen have been able to be so elite offensively.
- 14:12I don't see that sticking around to answer your question
- 14:15directly, I think chickering is the much safer place to stay on
- 14:18power play one whether or not Carlson is there.
- 14:21I think chickens got a concrete spot now.
- 14:24I also think that their combined point totals over 1.1 points per
- 14:29game over the last few weeks. Each player's not going to stick
- 14:32around. So you can expect regression for
- 14:34both. Kevin mentioned that chickens to
- 14:36sell high. I kind of agree on that, but I
- 14:38still think Chickens one of my top 7 or 8 defensemen I want to
- 14:42own in Carlson's on in that territory.
- 14:44Yeah, I fully agree at this point.
- 14:46Chickens at top tops here, defenseman and Carlson.
- 14:49I'm, I mean, I don't like to sell low, but I don't have, I
- 14:52don't have much hopes of him getting a passing chicken in the
- 14:55depth chart at this point. Yeah, I think the main take away
- 14:58from this is, is chicken is guaranteed that people one spot
- 15:04and whether Carlson is the second D on it or not is up for
- 15:07debate. But chicken is gonna be there no
- 15:10matter what. And I think he's just like
- 15:11easily a top seven top 8 defenseman rest of season.
- 15:14And right now if I have John Carlson on my team, I'm trying
- 15:17to trade him absolutely because his production right now is not
- 15:21going to be representative of what his production will be
- 15:23moving forward because right now his if you look at his averages,
- 15:25they've been nuts recently. So try to trade him right now
- 15:28before the average started doing his value goes when the London
- 15:32doing so yeah, that's that's my take on it.
- 15:36Fully agree, sell Carlson while he still has value.
- 15:38And the last hot topic is Robert Thomas of the Saint Louis Blues.
- 15:44The whole Blues team has been awful.
- 15:45Thomas is a guy who's been 1.1 points per game.
- 15:48In the past he's been an elite points guy even though he
- 15:50doesn't have much coverage other than faceoff wins.
- 15:52But now he's not doing the points.
- 15:54So people are like why am I holding this guy?
- 15:56Especially a pure C and a lot of leagues there's a lot of really
- 15:58good ones available. So do you think that he's worth
- 16:02holding on to? Is he a potential drop?
- 16:03Is he a sell low on? Is he a hold?
- 16:06And he's gonna turn it around? So what do you think?
- 16:08I think he's, I think he's in the bylaw territory more than
- 16:11anything. Like I totally get why people
- 16:13are scared. Saint Louis has been absolutely,
- 16:16absolutely awful. I'm very excited to round up how
- 16:21our divisional breakdowns are going because this was a
- 16:23catastrophic mistake by me, it's looking like.
- 16:25But I've had some other good ones, like The Jets not being as
- 16:28good, the Sharks being better than we thought.
- 16:31Yeah, Toronto. Exactly.
- 16:33But this is bad. And I'm like, and I'm not really
- 16:36thinking they're gonna get much better.
- 16:37But his point production right now under .8 points per game,
- 16:41like I think that will improve. So I, I don't believe in him as
- 16:46you know, as elite of a centre as I thought at the beginning of
- 16:49the year, but I still actually be looking to buy as opposed to
- 16:52a. Single can be point per game
- 16:54rest of season. Yeah, I don't see that out of
- 16:57the cards for him. I mean, I guess the difference
- 17:00is that he's been on better Saint Louis teams and he's on
- 17:02now, but like 1.16 last year, like .16 points per game
- 17:07difference, you know, or even .95.
- 17:10I think that that's kind of where he's gonna be hovering
- 17:12around. Like however many games he plays
- 17:14this season, let's say play 70 games, he'll get between 60, 6
- 17:20to 74 points. Alright, what do you think,
- 17:23Kevin? I mean, I think there's
- 17:26definitely better days ahead. I just don't want him on my
- 17:29team. I think he's already won
- 17:31one-dimensional enough that he's not the not the type of player
- 17:34that I usually draft in my fantasy leagues.
- 17:36But I do observe the value of him getting a point per game or
- 17:41more. But I just don't want him on my
- 17:44team. And the fact that he's not even
- 17:45close to that production right now is just a guy that is on
- 17:48waivers and a lot of leagues. And if you own him, you're not
- 17:51happy with him, especially where you drafted him.
- 17:53So like what I what I drop Robert Thomas or Josh Norris?
- 17:57I think I would enough that feels crazy, but if you're a
- 18:01shallow enough league like I and the replacement value is high
- 18:04that I know that even if N gets hurt, I can just pick up
- 18:05somebody else. That's like somewhat good as
- 18:07well. I would do that.
- 18:09So that's kind of where my mind is at.
- 18:11But do I think there's better days ahead for the Blues in
- 18:13general? Yes.
- 18:14When that happens, is that a month or two down the line?
- 18:16I don't know. And right now, like if you can
- 18:19afford to just wait along on your fantasy teams.
- 18:21And yes, but I don't usually want to wait a long so I'm
- 18:24either trying to trade or or make a a pickup.
- 18:28Yeah, it's they're. They're bad.
- 18:30I don't think they'll be this bad.
- 18:31Like I think they will get better and like.
- 18:33It for two months into the season.
- 18:34So it's like a a certain point. You have a sample size that you
- 18:36can use as a point of reference for moving forward.
- 18:38So. Yeah, but I mean, look at them
- 18:40literally last year, right? They were off until look at them
- 18:43the year they won the Stanley Cup.
- 18:44So it's not out of the question that they turn it around.
- 18:46I mean, usually there's a catalyst, right?
- 18:47Last year there was. I mean, both times it was a new
- 18:49coach, right? And they're not gonna fire
- 18:51Monty. So if they want some sort of
- 18:53catalyst to get them going, they're gonna have to find it
- 18:55internally or maybe make a trade or something.
- 18:57But yeah, he could only better, but he's also not like they
- 19:01don't have a great playoff schedule.
- 19:02He's not a great cat coverage guy.
- 19:04So it's not a guy I'm rushing to go try and buy it low on pretty
- 19:07much. But if you have him, would
- 19:09expect better stuff moving forward.
- 19:10With your example, Kevin, of dropping for Norris, I think
- 19:14that objectively, I'd rather have Norris on my team, but I
- 19:17don't know if I'd have the balls to make the move.
- 19:19So that's that's kind of where where I'm at.
- 19:20But but I think that it definitely Norris is going to be
- 19:24more productive for you as long as he's healthy.
- 19:25I would exercise every possible power inside me to try to trade
- 19:30before dropping him. But yeah, if I was back against
- 19:34the wall like I'm making that swap.
- 19:36Yeah, OK, so that was our hot topic.
- 19:38So let's do the mail bag. We're gonna kind of rapid fire
- 19:40some of these and let's just do it.
- 19:43Let's dive right in. So sedated sleeper on Reddit
- 19:45asked who is the habs #1 goalie for the rest of the year.
- 19:49By showing my jersey. Nice Superman jersey on.
- 19:53Yeah, I'm going, Monty. I think I'm gonna go Monty.
- 19:59We're gonna ride the hot hand, but I think at certain point
- 20:01Monty just is going to be the hot hand for a long period.
- 20:04So I remember like 2 weeks ago I was arguing with you guys.
- 20:07I was like, it's even when Dobish was on his hot streak,
- 20:09I'm like, they're gonna, they're gonna keep going back deferring
- 20:11to Montalbo. And you know, look, even when
- 20:14Dobish was playing hot, I still had a feeling that it was going
- 20:16to be Monbo. So I think even if he has his
- 20:19ups and downs, it's going to be him.
- 20:22Yeah, but I think it's gonna really be like A1A1B at the end
- 20:25of the like when it's all said and done.
- 20:27Like, I don't think I really thought money was one of the
- 20:29best zero guys. I don't believe that at all
- 20:30anymore. It's gonna be volatile and the
- 20:33hubs are missing irrelevant fantasy pieces, but very
- 20:35important IRL pieces. So I'm not expecting it to be
- 20:38smooth sailing at all over the next little bit for their
- 20:40goalies. So kind of going to be, yes,
- 20:42Monty, slight edge, but it's gonna be a pain in the behind to
- 20:45own both. Well, either.
- 20:47One Yeah, yeah, All right. Overthinking freedom on Reddit
- 20:50asked is Yan Kuznetsov going to be sticking with the club?
- 20:53Is he worth holding in dynasty for hits, blocks with some shots
- 20:56on goal and points upside? So this is a pretty deep cut
- 20:59question. So I dove into it and yeah,
- 21:02Kuznetsov was drafted by Calgary in the second round, 50th
- 21:04overall in the 2020 NHL Draft. And then I was looking at stats.
- 21:08He's putting up really solid hits and blocks and he's played
- 21:12kind of, he's played kind of every single game for the past
- 21:16month. I think he's definitely sticking
- 21:18with the big club. He's actually surpassed 2 of
- 21:20their defensemen on the depth chart.
- 21:22He's now their fourth most time on ice defenseman.
- 21:24So yes, he's going to stick with the team in terms of dynasty.
- 21:28I mean, I don't think this guys got much points upside or
- 21:32necessarily shots upside, but hits and blocks.
- 21:35He seems to be solid. I don't know.
- 21:36I'm not like he's not like a must hold or anything.
- 21:38Dynasty. You hold him as long as his his
- 21:40bangers are good and then he's just a streamer pretty much.
- 21:44Yeah, I mean, I know that this guy just got hurt, but I think
- 21:49it could be like Leanne Bichel vibes.
- 21:52Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean?
- 21:54So nothing, nothing too crazy. It depends how deep your dynasty
- 21:57league is, I suppose. But you're gonna get heights and
- 21:59blocks and that's about it. He's no Afghani who's nuts off.
- 22:02Let's move on to the next one. Intelligent Invite 3 on Reddit
- 22:05asked. My goalies right now are
- 22:06Markstrom and Alan, and the best goalies available on waivers are
- 22:09Jerry and Devin Cooley. Should I drop a player for one
- 22:12of those goalies? OK, so my take on this, I hate
- 22:16owning 2 goalies on the same team in general, especially when
- 22:21it's like a battle of like who's gonna be less bad that day?
- 22:24And that's kind of what it's shaping up to be in New Jersey.
- 22:28Even though they're still winning games, it's the goalies
- 22:30are totally all over the place there.
- 22:33I would actually just simply rather drop Jake Allen and pick
- 22:36up one of like probably Jerry. That's how I would handle.
- 22:39Things. That's exactly what I would do.
- 22:41Yeah, just drop Alan for Jerry. I think it's the clear answer,
- 22:45Yeah. OK, Gross, Buster.
- 22:47Hun. Reddit asked what are your
- 22:48thoughts on Jamie Benn and Josh Norris rest of season?
- 22:51Josh Morris we've spoken about in depth already.
- 22:53He's as long as he's healthy, he's the GOAT.
- 22:56Jamie Bennett don't have Yeah, Jamie, then I don't have much
- 23:01interest in. I know he's putting up solid
- 23:03numbers so far, but he has no chance of power play one.
- 23:05Look, I mean, it's enough league, you know, you keep him
- 23:08to round out your roster, but I don't have, I don't think he's
- 23:10gonna be anything special. Yeah, yeah.
- 23:12And, and Josh Norris, if you want more insight on him, I
- 23:15would go back and listen to some of the previous episodes where
- 23:18we touched on him a lot, especially the last episode.
- 23:20But I I think he's .8 points per game, double, double.
- 23:24We'll get you 6-7 face off wins. And I think he can be very
- 23:28valuable for Fantasy 1 healthy. Yep.
- 23:31OK poultry boot on Reddit asks. I have decent goalies, Walstead
- 23:35from Alcan Valdar. But with my league settings
- 23:37which are wins are worth 5, shutouts are worth five, goals
- 23:39against are -1 and saves are only worth one, they seem to get
- 23:43me more negative than positive points.
- 23:44Why am I holding 3 goalies? Should I just drop one or two to
- 23:47pick up skaters who can get me more points instead?
- 23:49So I think the biggest question with this is does your league
- 23:52have minimum goalie starts? Right, Because that'll depend
- 23:56how much that'll affect how many goalies.
- 23:58Like if you find that your goalies are not getting you
- 23:59points and you don't need to have them and you think you can
- 24:01get more points from skaters and another thing if you have like
- 24:05util or like you're gonna have to bench skaters essentially,
- 24:07then yeah, I would definitely drop at least one goalie,
- 24:10possibly two. There were, there was before we
- 24:11adjusted our league settings in our league of record, we only
- 24:14had two minimum goalie starts. And I think it was my first year
- 24:17of Kevin and I realized that like why are we holding?
- 24:20Why is every team holding like 3 goalies, even 2 goalies?
- 24:22And like I think we went up against each other in the
- 24:24playoffs. Each of us had one goalie and we
- 24:27were like. We literally changed the meta.
- 24:30Yeah, exactly. And then we had to change the
- 24:31rule to have more recommended required goalie.
- 24:34It's because it was just there was no reason to hold goalies.
- 24:36So it definitely depends on your league settings.
- 24:38But with what it sounds like, whilst that's the only one you
- 24:41have to keep, the other ones I think are dispensable.
- 24:44Yeah, the problem with this is that, like, I mean, when you
- 24:47think about it, it's pretty brutal to own goalies in this
- 24:49league. You have to get above like he
- 24:53has to get 11 saves to break even.
- 24:55On a goal, yeah. Pretty much or sorry, you just
- 24:59get 10 saves. So essentially like once he's at
- 25:01a 90 save percentage, then he doesn't have any negative that
- 25:03game and then you have to hope for a win.
- 25:05So to me this is a recipe for I, this is a recipe for just simply
- 25:12having two goalies or even 1 and a stream against good matchups.
- 25:17To me, whilst at by the countries of country miles.
- 25:20Nobody commented how many city miles are in a country mall and
- 25:25I did my own research. It's not a real thing.
- 25:27But anyways, all this to say, if somebody does know the answer,
- 25:30somebody does know the pop culture answer there, please do
- 25:34let us know. So well said for for me, but
- 25:38like, this is almost just like depending on how many, like if
- 25:41you got a certain amount of ads, you can do that.
- 25:44That's a way to make it work. I would just try to stream the
- 25:47game for the second goalie almost, because this is brutal.
- 25:51I'm in points leagues where it's really goalie heavy and I have 3
- 25:54and I'm happy with that. This is a very punishing setting
- 25:59that you guys have. So yeah, I mean, I'm scared
- 26:03telling 3 bullies here. I would simply want to ride with
- 26:05two. Yeah, OK, Next we've got AOL on
- 26:09Discord asked who has the higher upside when they return from
- 26:11injury, Matt Duchene or Josh Norris.
- 26:13Josh Norris, Josh North by far, by far.
- 26:17Literally, it's always Josh Norris had healthy.
- 26:20I'm not I'm not a shame find at all.
- 26:22I know what he did last year. If you like an anomaly, like he
- 26:24was a point per game and somehow like nothing else.
- 26:28So I I'm not understanding all this season.
- 26:30I think Josh Norris like blow them out of the water.
- 26:32Do you agree that in appointing though?
- 26:34Because I don't know if he identified in a bangers or
- 26:36points league. It doesn't matter.
- 26:38She doesn't have play 1 so I have no.
- 26:40Interest fair, but that gap is a lot smaller and if it is a
- 26:44bangers league then I would say absolutely Josh Norris.
- 26:50If it's a points league, I'd say Josh Norris.
- 26:52Yeah, it's OK. It's a slam dunk for me in both.
- 26:56Yeah, Joshua Furon on Discord asked are there any pics you
- 26:59made in the draft where you definitely should have the guy
- 27:01who was taken right after? So I actually, I went through
- 27:04the draft ahead of time to look at my big blunders and there
- 27:08were actually only four. We're talking like the immediate
- 27:10pick right after, not like if there something later.
- 27:12So here are my my 4 big immediate after blunders.
- 27:15First round I took JT Miller instead of Krill Kaprizov.
- 27:18Massive blunder. Luckily I've traded my way out
- 27:20of it. Next I took in the sixth round I
- 27:23took Sketch Nikov over Marchenko, another huge blunder.
- 27:26Seventh round I took Hamilton over Heiskanen, another huge
- 27:28blunder. And then 11th round I took
- 27:30Evander Kane over Mark Stone. So those are my BIG4 that I had
- 27:34ready for that one. The rest on the best.
- 27:38So I'm going to name 3. Should have taken your Erickson
- 27:41neck over your eyes, Lefkofsky. I probably at this point I think
- 27:46I could say I should have taken Matthew to Chuck over Dylan
- 27:48Holloway. We'll see how that shakes out.
- 27:51And I believe in not that I'm super happy, who would have
- 27:58would have been super happy here.
- 28:00But had I taken, had I taken Tyler to Foley over Cam Fowler,
- 28:05there's a slight chance he would still be on my team.
- 28:08I still I suppose that that counts as well.
- 28:11I'll see if I could come. Oh, Dora fave over Perfetti.
- 28:15Wow, this is so depressing. Joshua Ferron, why would you do
- 28:19this to us? This is borrible.
- 28:22Yeah. So I looked at my draft and I
- 28:26actually don't have any any big guys that I was like Dang I
- 28:29really missed out. But if I Scroll down to like
- 28:32around 14, I took Romanov instead of Gus.
- 28:35Gus went 2 picks after. So that feels like a pretty big
- 28:37deal given what Romanov was doing and now that he's out for
- 28:40the season. And then if I Scroll down to
- 28:42round, where is it? Round seventeen I drafted UPL
- 28:46with pick #230 and then a few picks later later in the round
- 28:51where Spencer Knight in Jet Grieves, who?
- 28:54I mean now I have Jet drives on my team, but Spencer Night looks
- 28:57like he would have been a stud if I drafted him instead of PO.
- 29:00And then round 20, So last round I drafted Joseph Wall, who is
- 29:07good now, but I didn't have the luxury of keeping on keeping him
- 29:10on my arm because I lost Brady Trocheck, Josh Norris, everybody
- 29:13else. And Emil Heineman went one pick
- 29:15later. So that could have been nice.
- 29:18That's crazy. Yeah.
- 29:19So pretty much what Kevin saying is his draft was perfect and he
- 29:21doesn't make mistakes until. 7th.
- 29:23Round but I. Also don't have a first round
- 29:25pick, some three first round picks on my team like Josh so
- 29:28you know you. Want me some?
- 29:30Yeah, there you. Go.
- 29:33Alright, Frank on discord asked what's going on with Saros and
- 29:36Hyman. Will they turn things around?
- 29:37We already discussed Saros, a hot topic for Hymen.
- 29:40I'm not worried at all. He's power play one with McDavid
- 29:44and Draisaitl on Edmonton. He's banging so you gotta
- 29:47remember that he's coming back from a long term injury.
- 29:49He missed camp and all that. You got to give him some time to
- 29:51marinate. Yep, I will.
- 29:53I will say though, I feel like the the take that I gave on Zach
- 29:55climbing when he first came back and we had only one game of
- 29:58sample size and everybody. Was just like 11.
- 30:00Hits. He's the next big thing, like
- 30:02he's an executor. Surewood and I kind of said it
- 30:04was gonna be more like one to two hits.
- 30:05The game seems like it's gonna be way more accurate than what
- 30:08we saw in that first game. So yeah, don't expect the 11
- 30:13hits, but I think you can expect a lot of better days ahead in
- 30:15terms of points and and shots and just power play production.
- 30:18Yeah, when we're also gonna tell.
- 30:20Us, we covered him, but like, get him off your roster, Hyman.
- 30:23I don't actually wanna get off my roster.
- 30:25Yeah, with Roslovic coming back when that happens, I I still
- 30:29think Heinen's deployment on the power play safe.
- 30:31So definitely could be a decent buy low opportunity.
- 30:34But as Kevin said, the hits Nope, 11 that was.
- 30:37That's not going to be a thing regularly.
- 30:40So yeah, yeah, OK, Joshua, if you're on Discord asked are you
- 30:44more inclined to pick up players on teams you're a fan of?
- 30:47What about teams you don't like? Or does fantasy value Trump?
- 30:50This is absolutely your burner account.
- 30:52This is 100% your burner account like last week too Joshua Fearon
- 31:01asked a question. Our long term injured players
- 31:03were at the same amount as when they were healthy and like this
- 31:07is tall players like stone to Chuck headman.
- 31:09This is you like stop this I. Mean it's actually, it is a bit
- 31:12uncanny that it's all stuff that I'm just like so known for.
- 31:16But to answer the question, I main thing is fantasy value
- 31:20Trump's all. Definitely.
- 31:21I don't avoid players on teams I don't like.
- 31:23Like I've had Matthews, my team most years and I'm a Habs fan.
- 31:27But I will say I am actually, I do try and avoid players on the
- 31:31teams I do like, especially the Habs.
- 31:33But that's mostly because we haven't been good for years.
- 31:36And I'm always like, I'm so emotionally invested in the
- 31:38haves and I'm like, I don't wanna let them disappoint me on
- 31:41the ice and also on my phone. So, so that's the only, the only
- 31:44reason. But at the end of the day, it's
- 31:45still fantasy. Value Trump's all.
- 31:47Yeah, I don't look at this at all.
- 31:49I have like this unbiased, complete unbiased opinion when
- 31:53I'm talking fantasy. When I'm talking fantasy, I want
- 31:55to win fantasy, so whether that's guys on my team are all
- 31:58my favorite team or guys on my team that I hate the most, like
- 32:00doesn't make a difference to me. I'm just trying to do what's
- 32:02best for my fantasy team so. Yeah.
- 32:04However, Joshua Furon, if for example, you're a Habs fan and
- 32:10you're in league with a bunch of other Habs fans, the best thing
- 32:12you could do is know that someone's paying a premium for
- 32:15those players. Like I speak about this a bit,
- 32:17It's about knowing your league mates.
- 32:18If you know someone's gonna buy because they're a fan of that
- 32:21team. And a lot of people do do that.
- 32:23So it's a very good question. That's kind of like a thing that
- 32:26I look for when creating two people.
- 32:28Yeah. So, OK, Genome on Discord asked
- 32:32you guys talk about points percentage, which is a players
- 32:34points over teams goals. Why do you look at that stat as
- 32:37opposed to IPP percentage, which is player points over teams
- 32:40goals while they're on the ice? And I think for me mainly it's
- 32:43that I want to know how talismanic player is to their
- 32:48team. And I find that their points
- 32:50over the total points is more indicative of that as opposed to
- 32:54just when they're on the ice. The when they're on the ice,
- 32:56it's how you know, are they the best there on?
- 32:58The right of a player, are they? Yeah, exactly.
- 33:00But in general, it's how important are they to their
- 33:03team. And I find that that's a more
- 33:05useful stat. Yeah, that that's kind of like a
- 33:08bit too plus minus E for me in a sense, you know what I mean?
- 33:12So it's like when it's all said and done, like like yes, when
- 33:16the players on the ice and things are happening like that
- 33:18does that does mean a lot. But in general, if like the team
- 33:22is able to score a lot of goals, like it could be a thing to look
- 33:24at Nashville we spoke on or would you rather like the
- 33:28previous would your others? It was Karl Capresso versus Mika
- 33:32Rotten and I'm pretty confident Dallas is going to score more
- 33:34goals, you know what I mean? So the pie is bigger.
- 33:36How much bigger is rather than or is Caprice of slice as
- 33:40opposed to round, You know, I mean, so this is kind of where
- 33:42things come into play and that's why I think we look at it this
- 33:45way. Yeah, OK.
- 33:47Jodari on Discord asked if you could be any archetype of player
- 33:50in the NHL, what would you choose?
- 33:52And examples are like power forward, skilled winger, goal
- 33:54scorer, that kind of fun stuff. I'd be a goalie and when I was
- 33:58younger I wanted to be a hockey goalie.
- 33:59So it's crazy. When I used to tell.
- 34:01My friends are. Crazy like always be, always be
- 34:03a goalie. When I was when I used to play
- 34:06NHL, I used to my be a pro, used to be a goalie and it was really
- 34:10boring because like you're just sitting there photo with it.
- 34:14So yeah. That's actually one of the most
- 34:16insane things I've ever heard, so that's awesome.
- 34:18I. Know yeah, I so so I I played
- 34:24goalie and that that was not great when when when meeting
- 34:31girls when I was younger because the whole thing was like oh if
- 34:33his name starts with AJ and he's a goalie run girl so so that was
- 34:36fun but I swear I'm normal anyways.
- 34:42You're not normal. Point taken.
- 34:47I I've always liked the whole power forward vibe.
- 34:50I was a pretty big Rick Nash fan when I was younger and I thought
- 34:54that he was like a cool, cool player to model my game after
- 34:57when I played street hockey. So I always liked the power
- 35:00forward vibes. And then that would be coupled
- 35:04with Playmaker because Josh and I used to play some street
- 35:07hockey together and it would always be him scoring and me
- 35:09passing. So we played ice hockey
- 35:11together, too. We played.
- 35:12In we did. We did.
- 35:13It's true. It's true.
- 35:15The glory. So yeah, that would mean right
- 35:17now, like just on the other side of the eyes with my goalie, just
- 35:21like standing there, not happening.
- 35:26Yeah, I, I currently play play beer league and I've been
- 35:30playing my whole life and I'm very much the the skilled
- 35:33winger. I, I like to dipsy doodle and
- 35:36make dangles. I don't have the best shot, so
- 35:38it's mostly mostly dangling. I'm not the best at
- 35:40backchecking. So it's very much, very much.
- 35:44Like move my stick around, but that's pretty much it.
- 35:46I like to score goals. Look, I'm averaging like two
- 35:48goals a game in my in my beer league.
- 35:50And I always say after a game, I'm like, man, if I just had
- 35:53myself in fantasy, then you know, I'd be putting up crazy
- 35:55points. Look at my plus minus or my any
- 35:58category coverage. But you know, other than that.
- 36:00So definitely, definitely undersized skilled winger is
- 36:03what I would go with. You never make it on Dickey's
- 36:05fantasy team, but a loss, no. Yeah, no chance.
- 36:08No. Chance, very, very Maxim shop
- 36:10and all of you. Yeah, exactly.
- 36:13All right, Alexander on Discord asked, are the days of McDavid
- 36:17being way better than everyone else in points over or are there
- 36:20other guys closing the gap on him?
- 36:21If so, would you trade him in a dynasty league for an emerging
- 36:24superstar plus while he's still the biggest name out there?
- 36:27So kind of the vibe is like, obviously McDavid just has that
- 36:29name value. Like, I mean, over the last
- 36:31couple of years, Mckinnon's up there with him, right.
- 36:33And like in terms of pure points, Kucherov too.
- 36:35But like there's that like, you know, McDavid in this right,
- 36:37where he's like such a tier above everyone else.
- 36:40And I think Alexander asking like, can you get some value out
- 36:42of that by like flipping McDavid for like a Bedard plus or like a
- 36:46celebrating plus where the McDavid to one of those guys
- 36:50downgrade is not actually that big of a downgrade.
- 36:53I would do that trade like I would.
- 36:55I would rather Bedard plus like the plus is gonna be good like
- 36:59in my mind. It would.
- 37:00Oh sorry, I was gonna give you 1.
- 37:02I was gonna say celebrity and Ecklund for.
- 37:04McDavid that's not enough. No, for me it would be like,
- 37:07would you do like celebrating? Plus Lucas Raymond for McDavid
- 37:10and we're talking to dynasty league.
- 37:12Right. Talking dynasty, yeah.
- 37:13So like, I have no doubt that the readings gonna be a stud for
- 37:17like the next decade, but McDavid could also be a stud for
- 37:19the next decade. So like what's?
- 37:21And I don't look across the world.
- 37:23Yeah, exactly. I don't see a world where
- 37:24McDavid is like on the on the ice, playing healthy and not
- 37:28scoring like 120 points. You know what I mean?
- 37:30Like, I just don't see that. I do think there's a couple guys
- 37:33that we mentioned that are in the same tier as him, but we're
- 37:36at the point where in dynasty league and you're guaranteed
- 37:39that McDavid on your roster every year.
- 37:41Like that's just so valuable. If you could trade him for it,
- 37:44would it would need to be like celebrity or Bedard?
- 37:47Like that's the next category of like next superstars.
- 37:50If you can get one of those plus another like no top 30 player,
- 37:54then I'd consider it. But I'm not doing it for one and
- 37:58like an extra average guy, you know what I mean?
- 38:01Would you do McDavid for Bedard and Demidov?
- 38:06Now you gotta call your shot on that one.
- 38:08That's I was gonna say demand has proven nothing yet in the
- 38:10NHL. So I would say again, I'm taking
- 38:13Bedard and Demidov and I think like just alone Badas ate more
- 38:18years than McDavid. Theoretically they retire at the
- 38:21same, you know what I mean? But was drafted in 2023, McDavid
- 38:25in 2015. Like that's a big difference,
- 38:27guys. Just to I wanna.
- 38:30Give it could be sick. Could be sick.
- 38:32I want to give a a small tangent for the people on that are
- 38:36listening that all Hulu fantasy football in 2023 I traded away.
- 38:41I was I I took over a squad and dynasty and the squad was in
- 38:44shambles. So I traded away my quarterback
- 38:47in a super flex league. I traded with Jared Goff and
- 38:50like Deonte Johnson, who was like a wide receiver to that
- 38:53year and I traded for Devon HN and Jackson Smith and JBA before
- 38:59they were basically these are guys that were like drafted
- 39:01really high. And then there were.
- 39:03Any of these names and. They were drafted really high
- 39:06then they were basically not good their first rookie season.
- 39:10So it's kind of just like, OK, we they were highly talented
- 39:12prospects, but they didn't like pop like immediately.
- 39:16And so their value like kind of like the window throughout the
- 39:18season in terms of like what we expect from them.
- 39:19But then I called my shot. I was just like, I do still
- 39:22believe in these prospects. And now Jackson Smith and Jake
- 39:24was like the most he's like the wide receiver one in dynasty
- 39:27right now. So it's like it's like trading
- 39:29for Demidov and then he becomes like McDavid level kind of
- 39:31thing. So I guess some point, if you
- 39:33have anything, you gotta call your shot and I think I would do
- 39:36that trade for Demidov and Bedard.
- 39:38I think you guys call. Yourself.
- 39:39That's the idea question, right is like if you feel like the
- 39:43Bedard McDavid gap is not that big that and like in dynasty,
- 39:46then you can take that type of shot to get an extra player.
- 39:49So definitely, I definitely. Would you do it for garden image
- 39:52Kov, who was supposed to be the next generational talent there
- 39:54like that's I would not. Probably so.
- 39:57I think, I think Mitch, cops just having it down here, I
- 39:59still think he's gonna be really, really good.
- 40:01I don't think he's that far off from them at all.
- 40:04I would move on so we can talk about this forever.
- 40:06Quick thing, first part of the question.
- 40:08Yes, the days of McDavid being better than everybody else are
- 40:10over. That's what they've been over
- 40:12for a few years now. Like McKinnon is doing the same
- 40:14in Gujarat too. So.
- 40:16Yeah, yeah, 100%. OK Genome on Discord asked would
- 40:20you guys be interested in running a Bangor management
- 40:23fantasy league next year with fans from the Discord?
- 40:25That is a great question. We will be doing that next year.
- 40:28So Kevin, if you want to go into that.
- 40:31I was going to say like we're working on this actively, but we
- 40:34will during the offseason. We're gonna put a lot of a lot
- 40:37of time and effort into establishing like what we want
- 40:40the manager management lease to look like.
- 40:42In my, in my opinion, in my head, how we run this is I want
- 40:44to have multiple leagues out there that are basically it's
- 40:48the same settings as our our league of record.
- 40:51So that you guys can see what it's like to play in a league
- 40:53that we play in, in terms of like the same settings and
- 40:56everything like that. And we'll just see how many
- 40:58people are interested in the discord have had a lot of people
- 41:00already say that they really want bigger management leagues
- 41:03out there. And then maybe we'll see if we
- 41:05have enough leagues that we can make, maybe we'll create like a
- 41:08relegation system and a tiered based league standings where,
- 41:11you know, the top players in every league move up and down
- 41:14and, and we could have some fun with it.
- 41:16Like we're going to, we're going to hypothesize what works best
- 41:19and see how many people are interested.
- 41:21But next year, absolutely, we will be having banker management
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- 41:55So I've like Tinkerbell heard, yeah.
- 41:59You go as long as you believe. Sure.
- 42:02Exactly. So would it make it on Shakey's
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- 42:22discord ask. There's a team in my 3 keeper
- 42:24league that's already selling players for next year's draft
- 42:27picks. Is it too early to start buying
- 42:28if I'm in a playoff spot? How do you value future draft
- 42:31picks? OK, this is really a great
- 42:34question. I two years ago was in a spot
- 42:39where I was competitive and then all the top teams started
- 42:41buying. You don't want to be the first
- 42:44buyer, OK? You also don't want to be the
- 42:47last buyer. If you could time it in such a
- 42:49way where I'm assuming January is going to be like after the
- 42:53fire sale starts and people are like, OK, I'm not competitive
- 42:56anymore. I've got to get people off my
- 42:58team to prepare for next year. That's the sweet spot.
- 43:01So if you're the first guy and you're kind of like setting the
- 43:04standard for the market, and then as time goes on and people
- 43:08reason they realize their season is futile.
- 43:11What you're gonna wanna do is trade with that team or two of
- 43:14those teams. And then at the end of it, it's
- 43:16like, well, the seller is going to basically just like it's
- 43:20gonna be like you're gonna have to buy and probably overpay.
- 43:22That's at least the way I saw it working out.
- 43:24So my opinion, do not be first. Wait for a few transactions to
- 43:28happen and then dive in. I actually feel differently like
- 43:31and maybe this is just I mean, I just save.
- 43:33Me for it. No, but I so I do a lot of
- 43:38negotiating, especially like, you know, we're in peak season
- 43:41for fantasy football dynasty leagues where you know, you're
- 43:44trying to make the playoffs or both your team if you're a
- 43:46contender. And I like being first because I
- 43:50like having my my pick of the litter in terms of like who I
- 43:52want to target to bolster my team, because the longer you
- 43:55wait, the less options there are.
- 43:56And it's not like half the league is tanking usually.
- 43:58Usually you have like, you know, four teams that are guaranteed
- 44:01the playoffs, four teams that are like trying to make the
- 44:03playoffs. And you have like one team
- 44:05that's like been out of it for weeks.
- 44:06And then a couple of teams that are like still have hope, but
- 44:08reluctant and in denial that their team sucks and they need
- 44:11to rebuild. So I you.
- 44:13Wanted. He's talking about me.
- 44:16No, Do you actually make the playoffs?
- 44:18So listen, you're in the middle, in the middle there.
- 44:20But I, I want to be able to target the players on the worst
- 44:23teams that I want the most. And if I wait for other teams to
- 44:26make deals, then I don't have that opportunity anymore.
- 44:30So I value my opinion and like how I value these guys and I
- 44:35don't want to overpay for guys either.
- 44:37So obviously have to know your manager and know your league
- 44:39and, and who's hard to trade with and who's who's able to get
- 44:42a good deal done. But I'm trying to target the
- 44:45guys that I want as soon as possible.
- 44:46If I know I'm going to be the playoff contender.
- 44:48And if I'm a seller, then I usually want to wait because
- 44:51then that's when people get desperate and you can get more
- 44:53lopsided deals. Where OK is the week before the
- 44:56championship and dynasty league. If you trade window is still
- 44:58open, then sell your guys for extra picks because this guy
- 45:01might it might put him the edge over for the championship type
- 45:03of thing. But if I'm a buyer, I usually
- 45:05like to be early. Yeah, I think I don't.
- 45:08I haven't played in keeper slash dynasty yet, so I'll defer to
- 45:12you guys on this one. Let's move on to the last
- 45:14question Frank on Discord asked. Is it too early to panic on
- 45:16Clayton Keller? He's been doing nothing the past
- 45:18few weeks. I feel like we covered this a
- 45:20bit in our last mail bag, but just the Utah in general.
- 45:23I'm not click Keller, out of everyone in Utah is the one of
- 45:25the least panicked about. I know that you have higher
- 45:27expectations of him and Utah will turn it around.
- 45:29They should be one of the top power plays and offences in the
- 45:32league. And Keller, I'm, I would easily
- 45:34say he's going to point per game for the rest of the season.
- 45:37Yeah, and and like, OK, not the not to be a downer on this.
- 45:42And then the episode on the side, no, but his dad did just
- 45:44pass away, which is obviously very sad.
- 45:46And it's gonna I mean, the fact that he's playing right now is
- 45:49kind of surprising, to be honest.
- 45:52So I would expect it to be like, in addition to Utah just being
- 45:56not necessarily good over the past few weeks, it's also going
- 46:00to definitely weigh on him. But like as the season goes on,
- 46:03there are a very good team that's going to figure it out.
- 46:06And he's the top offensive player there, so I think it's
- 46:08like whether the Storm for a little bit longer and then
- 46:11things are going to look up for the whole team and he'll be at
- 46:12the forefront. OK, Rapid fire 2 Would you
- 46:15rather just clean colour? Would you rather?
- 46:16Three make 3 OK. Or is that climbing?
- 46:19Kelly. Keller really.
- 46:21I feel that's a spicy one because Hyman hasn't pitched hit
- 46:23his peak yet either. OK, so now I have to go up.
- 46:26I thought he was. Already high, easily overheated,
- 46:29and actually I think that's closed.
- 46:30OK, Keller or Batherson? I think.
- 46:36Getting a lot of power play from Batherson.
- 46:38Yeah, I just, I really believe in the Utah offence to turn it
- 46:41on. OK, what about the Caulfield?
- 46:48Yeah, I think I go at this point I probably go Caulfield over
- 46:51colour. I'm going Caulfield as well.
- 46:54But maybe, maybe we're just homers.
- 46:56I think I'd go bathroom as well if I'm if I'm in the category
- 46:59bangers league as well, mostly because I think confidently I
- 47:02can say about this will get more power play points and I think
- 47:05more hits so. Yeah, I could see that.
- 47:09I just do a thing. That colour is performing way
- 47:12below his. He's a phenomenal player and at
- 47:13a certain point he will average a point per game per season is
- 47:16just like his average is at the end of the year will look wonky
- 47:19because he's had a bad stretch so.
- 47:22Yeah, alright, let's wrap this thing up.
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