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Matt Rife on When Crowd Work Goes Wrong(M4A_128K) · Drawn of History

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  Speaker 1: You got kind of pinned with being the crowd work.
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  Speaker 1: Your crowd work started to kind of take clips and
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  Speaker 1: make it so that a lot of people were doing
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  Speaker 1: crowd work. Do you feel like that's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: true statement?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I definitely wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the first one to do it. Schultz was a big
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  Speaker 2: inspiration for me doing that. His crowd work's fucking... He's
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  Speaker 2: amazing at that.
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  Speaker 3: He's so good at it.
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  Speaker 2: He was doing this thing that even made me want
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  Speaker 2: to start doing any of my YouTube specials where he
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  Speaker 2: was doing like a new minute every single week that
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  Speaker 2: you would post a new clip every single, that's 52
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  Speaker 2: minutes of material throughout, throughout the year. Uh, it was genius.
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  Speaker 2: And he was sprinkled crowd working with that as well. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, Holy shit. I see the importance
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  Speaker 2: of content in this, in the standup market, which I
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  Speaker 2: don't think anybody had really been paying attention to. Like,
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  Speaker 2: You put out specials, but that's what once every year,
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  Speaker 2: maybe once every two years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But we weren't like comedians weren't being in people's faces
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  Speaker 2: all day. Like you weren't prominent on a platform and
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  Speaker 2: people kind of couldn't avoid you, which I think is.
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  Speaker 2: you know, prominent for the algorithm.
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  Speaker 1: Well, especially if you don't have, if you're not, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a regular podcast, like with podcasting you
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  Speaker 1: do because you just have clips, right?
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  Speaker 3: Of course.
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  Speaker 1: But if not, yeah, it's hard to find like what
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  Speaker 1: is that thing without doing a sketch or like planning
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  Speaker 1: this big thing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I like doing the bit of crowd
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  Speaker 2: work that I do in my show because like it's
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  Speaker 2: new and refreshing, right? Like it's, I'm not doing the
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  Speaker 2: same stories and jokes night after night after night that
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  Speaker 2: you have to deliver like it's your first time ever
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  Speaker 2: saying it. Like this is something so new and spontaneous
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  Speaker 2: that I can post online. It's not burning any of
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  Speaker 2: my material.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I saw the one where you saw one
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  Speaker 1: of your teachers. Was that one of yours?
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  Speaker 3: My teacher? Did you have a teacher that came? No,
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  Speaker 3: I think that was Trevor Wallace. Oh, that was Trevor Wallace.
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  Speaker 3: I think his teacher came. Sorry, dude. It's okay. It's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Wrap this up? Yeah. I'm fucking with you, man. I
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  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, we can. I'm just kidding, man. That's okay, dude. Sorry, damn.
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  Speaker 3: Fucking Trevor, dude. No, I'm not going anywhere, man.
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  Speaker 1: Trevor impersonated you, though, I think. It felt like he
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  Speaker 1: was trying to steal your shit. No, no.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just joking. I'm just fucking joking with Trevor. He
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  Speaker 3: would never do that. He's the nicest guy. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: He's very, very nice. I don't know if there's... He
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  Speaker 3: is so nice, dude.
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  Speaker 1: But did it ever feel like then you had to
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  Speaker 1: be the crowd work? Like you had to do that? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 2: I talked to Adam Ray about this recently, too, because
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  Speaker 2: he's gotten so prominent with his characters that he does,
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  Speaker 2: with Dr. Phil and Biden and everything.
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  Speaker 3: We stepped into that and it's unbelievable. Genius, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: It's such a specific lane that nobody else has been doing. Nobody.
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  Speaker 2: I asked him, I was like, do you find people
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  Speaker 2: coming to your show and just wanting the characters? And
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  Speaker 2: he was like, all the time. Like sometimes I'll be
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of a story and somebody will be like,
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  Speaker 2: do crowd work. And I'm like, I'm going to fucking
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  Speaker 2: get to it if I feel like it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It's not, that's not all this is. Like I'm a
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  Speaker 3: goddamn jukebox.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy, man. But I mean, I do it because
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy it, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's like when I was in like, when I was
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  Speaker 3: like doing those wiener pills, it's like, get an erection.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, I'm trying, man. Give me a few minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Let me warm them up a little bit. Yeah, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Let me nibble off a freaking chunk of my roommate's
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  Speaker 1: wiener pill. At an angle so he won't notice it's missing,
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  Speaker 1: you freak. There are only freaking five milligrams.
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  Speaker 3: Tablets. Do you ever, when you're touring, do you ever
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  Speaker 3: do any crowd work at all? I do some of
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  Speaker 3: it more often now, and I really like it. It's
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  Speaker 3: just fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's just something silly and spontaneous. It gets a bad
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  Speaker 2: rap for people being like, oh, you're just doing it
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  Speaker 2: because you don't have the material. That's such a hack
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  Speaker 2: response to have to it. By what means does that
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  Speaker 2: mean that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like we were shooting this thing in Lexington
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago and somebody yelled out, AIDS, right
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the show.
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  Speaker 3: And it was just like, it was a woman too. Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: And usually AIDS is more of a guy's thing or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And what are you going to not acknowledge it? I know, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, that's how bad things have gotten.
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  Speaker 1: It's like people are just yelling AIDS out.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, that's the other hard thing as well is like
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  Speaker 2: venue wise now, the smaller venue I do, the more
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  Speaker 2: people yell out because they want to be the person
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  Speaker 2: that like gets talked to.
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  Speaker 3: Like they want to be the next clip. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't work like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's usually the least assuming person you talk to is
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  Speaker 2: probably like you're going to get the best shit out
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  Speaker 2: of it. It's not like the pick me person in
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  Speaker 2: the back.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, dude. It's always like that.
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  Speaker 2: A comedy club is like so intimate. We're all kind
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  Speaker 2: of feel like we're hanging out that in like a
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  Speaker 2: living room to where it's nobody really wants to be
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  Speaker 2: like the dickhead to interrupts. Like that's kind of perfect.
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  Speaker 2: And an arena is so big that like you, I
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  Speaker 2: think they assume they, you can't hear them. So they're
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  Speaker 2: not going to waste yelling out. But like anywhere in
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  Speaker 2: the middle ground, like a theater, people are like, I
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  Speaker 2: know he'll fucking hear me. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We yell some wild shit.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. I think it's like there is this weird
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  Speaker 1: thing where you yell because you kind of want to
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  Speaker 1: be heard, but you do not want to be called on.
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  Speaker 1: There's some of that energy, too, for some people.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, of course. Like you want to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of it, but you don't want to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of it. Oh, I love the purse.
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  Speaker 2: I love like the like the wife brought her husband
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  Speaker 2: and the husband didn't want to sit up front.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, well, what if he talks to me? And
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  Speaker 3: the wife's like, it's not all about you, Ron. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: And then you end up talking to that guy. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: this is my fucking worst nightmare. The wife's loving it.
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  Speaker 2: I love that dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: Has it ever backfired? Take me on one that backfired.
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  Speaker 1: Have there been one that backfired? Because when you open
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  Speaker 1: it up to the crowd, that's another thing. Suddenly 40 people,
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  Speaker 1: they want to offer a suggestion.
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  Speaker 2: It's very hard to direct a room full of people
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  Speaker 2: who are like, okay, now it's my turn. That does
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  Speaker 2: happen quite often. Usually I'm pretty good at shutting it
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  Speaker 2: down and everybody can kind of be cordial, but it happens.
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  Speaker 2: But you also get duds, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: You interview people. You know what it's like to talk
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  Speaker 2: to somebody who you can't hold a conversation with. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that happens all the time. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to post that clip, obviously. So, yeah, it's not magic
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  Speaker 2: every time. But when you do get it, it's such
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  Speaker 2: a fun feeling to have that moment right then, right
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  Speaker 2: there with people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, one time there was a guy and he
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  Speaker 1: had a wife or girlfriend, whoever it was, had the craziest, like, tits, right?
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  Speaker 3: I love you couldn't think of tits, okay?
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  Speaker 1: And they were so crazy, I couldn't even... It was
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  Speaker 1: hard to categorize them. They were so insane.
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  Speaker 3: Onomatopoeias. Yeah, he's just boom.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Bang, you know? Just like some real, just onomatopoeias on him.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: Just like some damn fucking, just some milk tonsils, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Just some.
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  Speaker 1: Like L5S, none. Like you have no cartilage left from
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  Speaker 1: holding those up. They were just, yeah, they were, you
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  Speaker 1: could just feel like one of, you could feel one
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  Speaker 1: of her vertebrae having trouble.
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  Speaker 3: God damn. Yeah, you couldn't feel it, dude. Them Hindenburgs. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: She had them damn blimps and front blimps. Front blimps.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, dude, but they were crazy as fucking tits.
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  Speaker 1: And she, you, and... The guy's like, I said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: what do you do? He's like, you know, I stock
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  Speaker 1: vending machines, you know? And I was like, and what
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  Speaker 1: do you guys put in them? And he's like, muscle milk,
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  Speaker 1: you know?
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  Speaker 3: God damn.
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  Speaker 1: And he says muscle milk, but then you see where
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  Speaker 1: you think he's getting the milk from. His wife's just
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  Speaker 1: sitting there all quiet with the craziest tits, like acting
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  Speaker 1: like she doesn't have crazy tits or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, of course.
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  Speaker 1: And she was wearing a little bitty hat. You ever
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  Speaker 1: see somebody who like pins a hat on their hair
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  Speaker 1: and acts like it's a real hat?
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  Speaker 3: It's like a brooch. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 3: fucking brooch. Yeah. It's a little, it's like Toy Story ass. Like, bitch,
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  Speaker 3: what are we talking about? And did you address them?
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  Speaker 3: Did you address the titties?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, well, where are you guys getting the
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  Speaker 1: milk from, right? And that was just, and dude, there
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  Speaker 1: was nothing else through the rest of the night that
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  Speaker 1: was like, there's just something about that thing that's in
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  Speaker 1: the moment.
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  Speaker 3: And it was just simple. There was nothing I really
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  Speaker 3: had to do.
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it just presents itself. Bro, I was in Philly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was in Philly, and there's a guy sitting
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  Speaker 2: front row. He's got these slack pants on and just
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  Speaker 2: had the most amount of dick sitting in the front
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  Speaker 2: of his pants.
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  Speaker 3: Like a conglomerate? Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: Like a seven-dick pileup right in his own pants?
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  Speaker 3: He melted eight or nine dicks on his dick. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: It was so prominent.
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  Speaker 2: It stopped me in the middle of a story, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I took the camera off the cameraman's shoulder,
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  Speaker 2: zoomed in on it, it looked like he shit the
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  Speaker 2: front of his pants.
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  Speaker 3: It was so much dick. It honestly ruined my night.
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  Speaker 3: I was upset. I was insecure for the next 45 minutes. Yeah, dude. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: when somebody shows up with that stepdad cock or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Stepdad cock is such a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: As somebody who had a stepdad, it's such a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was so mad I wasn't his for a few years, man.
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  Speaker 3: I would have been afraid to come out of that thing, though.
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  Speaker 1: That stepdad cock, dude, you can't. That's why he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have any kids, bro. A kid wouldn't make it out
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  Speaker 1: of that thing, brother. This is it right here. Biggest
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  Speaker 1: dick ever. Is this a video of it?
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  Speaker 3: Uh, it's probably a video, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And put your fucking dick away.
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  Speaker 3: Put your dick away. I know. Cameraman, don't zoom in.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have to. I can fucking see it, dude.
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  Speaker 3: He's smuggling.
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  Speaker 2: Unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: Cameraman just like wouldn't get the shot of it. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, hold on. Why wouldn't he?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're like three inches away from somebody's face.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, get out of there. You have a zoom.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 3: It's tangled up in his dick. Hold on a second.
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  Speaker 3: Hold on. Look at this fucking thing. You're moving the camera. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Look at that thing, man. Big bro got that front
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  Speaker 3: yard doll, bro. Remember an alien when it's coming out
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  Speaker 3: of her fucking stomach?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's what it looks like. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Dude.
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  Speaker 3: That's a lot, man. Turtleneck dick is just a different confidence.
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  Speaker 3: And he's wearing a turtleneck, too?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 3: He knows what's up. That's insane. That's Christmas dick. If
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  Speaker 3: you weren't a turtleneck. A holiday hog. Tight pants, brother. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he knew. That's not comfortable. There's no way. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: That's all tight, brother. I'm so glad my dick isn't
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  Speaker 3: that big. Yeah. So glad about it. Yeah. Same, same.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, man, you get some weird stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's so funny?
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  Speaker 2: If you look at mom, Christina from Iowa is on
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  Speaker 2: the top thing. She's actually more prominent than my own
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  Speaker 2: mom in.
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  Speaker 3: Most of these.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: That's her right in the middle? Christina? Top right corner,
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  Speaker 3: the blonde hair. And who was that? Your ex?
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  Speaker 2: No. no, no, no. That was, God, arguably probably the
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  Speaker 2: most famous crowd work thing was she's like this really
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  Speaker 2: hot mom, actually grandma, who lives in Iowa. And I
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  Speaker 2: met her on stage. She gave me like these cookies
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  Speaker 2: and this like really sexual shirt and everything. And bro,
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  Speaker 2: I was like 10 minutes into the show when this happened.
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  Speaker 2: I did like an hour and 20 minutes just talking
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  Speaker 2: to her. crazy crazy good time the entire time like
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  Speaker 2: we were great chemistry great banter the crowd was fucking
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  Speaker 2: loving it but at the time you can only post
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  Speaker 2: a 10 minute clip online on like instagram and stuff
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  Speaker 2: so i had to edit it all down to that
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  Speaker 2: like the whole show was that which never happens by
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  Speaker 2: the way like that sounds like i didn't have material
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  Speaker 2: ready for the show but like it was just such
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  Speaker 2: a really cool in the moment thing and what stupid
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  Speaker 2: it's got over like i'm sure collectively over a couple
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  Speaker 2: hundred million views dang.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah it's awesome no way awesome Dude, that's
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  Speaker 3: the best. Where in Iowa was that at? Des Moines,
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  Speaker 3: the funny bone there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes crowd work is different every time. That's
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  Speaker 3: the fun.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know if you're going to talk to a
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  Speaker 2: super hot mom or biggest dick you've ever seen or
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  Speaker 2: somebody all crumpled up in the corner.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know. Yeah, it is kind of great. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: there she is right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it is great, dude. With crowd work, there's
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  Speaker 1: something really special about it.
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  Speaker 3: It's just real and in the moment, you know?
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  Speaker 1: How do you get the, how do you get, your
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  Speaker 1: cameraman now is you have a special cameraman who's like.
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  Speaker 3: Sitting right there.
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  Speaker 2: Kyle. He gets all of it.
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  Speaker 3: You do it all, Kyle? Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: What the heck?
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  Speaker 3: He does all the crowd work stuff. Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Then we do a little collaborative editing system together. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he shoots all of it.
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  Speaker 2: This was, man, the comedy clubs, that feels like a
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  Speaker 2: lifetime ago. This is probably three and a half years ago, maybe,
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  Speaker 2: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. Maybe. That feels like a different lifetime ago.