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987 THE SHOCK CIRCUIT REPLAY🔁 240926 · 987 The Shock Circuit

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  Speaker 1: Wake up.
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  Speaker 1: Good next
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  Speaker 1: Kicking off your day in the best way. It's Sonia
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  Speaker 1: and Joakim on the shock circuit. Well, it's D-Day. If
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: you're taking PSLE, we wish you all the best, sending
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  Speaker 1: you all the good luck, the good energy that you need,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll have great music to perk you up this
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  Speaker 1: morning to keep you energized. Why not, right? Sending you
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  Speaker 1: lots of love. Corti is gonna kick us off this hour.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: Good morning. Singapore's number one hit music station.
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  Speaker 1: Earlier on this morning, um, as I got up and
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: came to and got myself ready to come to the office, uh,
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: there it was again.
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  Speaker 1: The roosters are crowing. I don't know whether it's the
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: season or something, but every once, every few months, um,
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: these two roosters, or, or, yeah, they have to be
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: roosters because they're crowing, they, they are having a conversation, man,
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: like in the morning. They are ensuring the people who
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: need to be up at 6 a.m. are up. That
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: was way before 6.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, I wonder what they're talking about
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  Speaker 1: and because it didn't exactly sound like it's very near me, um,
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  Speaker 1: I can only imagine the residents that are experiencing it
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  Speaker 1: like right next to those roosters, and the two roosters
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  Speaker 1: don't sound like they're near each other, you know what
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: I mean? So one will, one will make noise, the
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  Speaker 1: other one will talk back.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm just like, what are you guys gossiping about, man?
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  Speaker 1: Like I just wanna know. I want to know about
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  Speaker 1: the latest before the market opens. Correct. OK, that's probably
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  Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Anyway, thanks for joining us here
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: this morning. Um, like I said just yesterday, later on
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: after 9, we do have our bestie joining us in
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: a bit. It's funny how I said that because
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  Speaker 1: We're talking about investment scams. Yeah, and he himself was
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  Speaker 1: used as part of that investment scam. Oh, by the way, interesting.
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: The CEO of DBS Tann did not punch Steve in
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  Speaker 1: the face. Yeah, that was like that was AI at
• 2:05
  Speaker 1: its best, man. And apparently that ad is still circulating
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: around the internet they can't do anything about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're trying, but it still keeps popping up, right?
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  Speaker 1: OK, so what's going on with the AI glasses? I mean, I,
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  Speaker 1: I actually really love my pair of AI glasses. I
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  Speaker 1: use it at music festivals a lot. I'm gonna say this.
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  Speaker 1: I think for both of us, we belong in the
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  Speaker 1: category of people who use AI glasses responsibly, because I
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  Speaker 1: run a lot and I love to share my run routes,
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  Speaker 1: especially on how to get up to Benjamin Shear's bridge
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  Speaker 1: for training when it comes to the BYD half of
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  Speaker 1: full marathon.
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  Speaker 1: And people like you will use it at music festivals.
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  Speaker 1: People will create videos. Some tech, some tech vloggers love
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  Speaker 1: to use the glasses to show what they're doing or whatsoever,
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  Speaker 1: and it's great to watch and even cooks as well. But, um,
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  Speaker 1: and we said this when they allowed the AI glasses
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  Speaker 1: to be sold in Singapore.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it might empower some creepy behavior as well and
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  Speaker 1: people might try their best to temper the system where
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  Speaker 1: they can remove the light blinking hide the light to
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  Speaker 1: record videos. So what happened and this person got caught, right?
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  Speaker 1: I hope. Yeah, so unfortunately, um, I think this video
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  Speaker 1: has gone viral and this took place could be just
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  Speaker 1: right outside.
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  Speaker 1: Raffles Junior College. No, yeah, or was it RGS because
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  Speaker 1: I can tell from the uniform and where the construction
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  Speaker 1: is happening. I think it's around the Thompson area where
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  Speaker 1: there was this creep who was caught on camera tailing
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  Speaker 1: two RJC girls, yeah, two students, and I think somebody
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  Speaker 1: was behind him recording the act happening and
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  Speaker 1: And when she or he did a swivel, you can
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  Speaker 1: see that the guy was wearing the camera recording glasses.
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  Speaker 1: The person who went to confront the guy, right? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: not exactly confront but just recorded as evidence, posted it
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  Speaker 1: on social media, and now I think the police are rightfully,
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  Speaker 1: rightly investigating this video. So creepy.
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  Speaker 1: And can you imagine people actually spend that money on
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  Speaker 1: a pair of AI glasses, which are not cheap, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, for the creepy behavior, wow. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: comments in the alleged this guy is quite a sightings.
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  Speaker 1: So I guess because of this netizen's video, they can
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  Speaker 1: now bring him in I guess be careful, be vigilant
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: and here's my question why is it always Bishan, I
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  Speaker 1: told you.
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  Speaker 1: Um, during my time, I know you told me about
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  Speaker 1: that creepy guy, right? There was this one prominent guy,
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  Speaker 1: and he's gotten into trouble with the law. He has
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  Speaker 1: a nickname which I won't say. Can. Can you tell
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  Speaker 1: me when I turn off the mic? Yes, I will,
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  Speaker 1: I will, but if you're on TikTok and Reddit.
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  Speaker 1: The nickname is available for you readily. He's known. He's known.
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  Speaker 1: Oh gosh. OK, well, be safe and um please do
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  Speaker 1: your best today. Um we, we know that this is
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: the start of like your official written papers. 0 24th, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's PSLE. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't realize that it
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  Speaker 1: was today. 24th.
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  Speaker 1: On your way to school right now, or maybe you're
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: dropping off your sibling who is taking an exam here today,
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter which exam, you know, test or exam, all
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  Speaker 1: the best, we're sending you love. If you would like
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: to send some messages of encouragement and all that, our
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: phone lines are always open. And like I mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 1: it's not such a great year when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: fire-related incidents in Singapore.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: Which is why I wonder like, how come it was
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  Speaker 1: so timely that there's a Boys to Firemen and like,
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: you know, just these weird things that are aligning in
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  Speaker 1: the universe this year. Maybe our friends over at SCDF, OK,
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  Speaker 1: we've got too many cases this year. Let's call Jack Neo.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: Jack Neo, we need a national message. They'll slip in
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  Speaker 1: some warnings here and there like what to do, what
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  Speaker 1: not to do kind of thing, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Um, but this happened over in the Ang Mo Kio
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  Speaker 1: area and um it is not in regards to any
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  Speaker 1: portable battery or PMD or whatever it is that usually
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: are the, are the main culprits of fire-related incidents. It's
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: actually an automatic mahjong table. Yeah, so I've played on
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  Speaker 1: one before, not that I'm very good, honestly, I, I, I, I,
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  Speaker 1: I'm quite bad at mahjong or any card-related games, anything
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  Speaker 1: at all.
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  Speaker 1: Um, but they're still investigating. However, the automatic mahjong table
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  Speaker 1: seems right now to be the cause of the fire. Um,
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  Speaker 1: two people that were 18 and that are 18 and
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  Speaker 1: 21 years old were trapped in the unit, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: They were.
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  Speaker 1: They were stuck, but um, I think about over 20
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  Speaker 1: people were evacuated at about 10:45 a.m. So it was
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  Speaker 1: quite intense because like black smoke was coming out from
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  Speaker 1: the living room, you know, and the windows and all
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  Speaker 1: that of the seventh floor unit. So they managed to
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  Speaker 1: extinguish everything.
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  Speaker 1: Um, they're, they're safe. I think an SCDF firefighter was
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  Speaker 1: also brought to the hospital to get assessed, but he
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  Speaker 1: got discharged. Can I ask, does it even say how
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  Speaker 1: did the mahjong table catch fire? So they are, they're
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  Speaker 1: investigating it right now. They're saying it's suspected to have
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  Speaker 1: caught fire. So I don't know if you've played on
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  Speaker 1: an automatic mahjong table before. I mean, I've seen those.
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  Speaker 1: and and all that. Yeah, so there's like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of mechanisms inside, I think, in order to like shuffle the,
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  Speaker 1: the tiles and then like stack them and then bring
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  Speaker 1: them up again, right? So I'm assuming maybe something was
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  Speaker 1: faulty in there perhaps. But look, this is all speculation,
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  Speaker 1: I said, um, this is still under investigation right now,
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  Speaker 1: but the owner of the mahjong table, the automatic mahjong
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  Speaker 1: table said.
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  Speaker 1: I bought it at a mall about a year ago
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  Speaker 1: for more than $800. It shouldn't be like that. Yeah,
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: but you can also buy some dodgy power banks from
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  Speaker 1: a mall or shops that you can find. So be careful.
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  Speaker 1: So auntie uncle, go and check. Yeah, but it could
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  Speaker 1: be the wiring or like, you know, the plug or what.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know the connection. I'm no expert, but I
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  Speaker 1: hope that you stay safe when your mahjong to give you, not.
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. Who is Tiger? No. Who is River? Oh, sorry,
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Lao Lao. No. Who? When they get a very good
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: hand and tows, they put down and say, Who? Oh,
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: you're more Chinese than me. I'm gonna say this. Taylor
• 8:18
  Speaker 1: Swift would have thrived even more as if she isn't
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: already at a very high level. She would have.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: thrived even more as an artist in the 80s and 90s.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: Why do you say that and maybe even early 2000s
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: just before the birth of MP3. You know why? This woman,
• 8:38
  Speaker 1: one album, 1900 different variants.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: And people still buy them. That's the thing. Like there's
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: if there's a demand, there's a supply. So I really
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: love her business mind and her business team. They, they
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: know how to make bang for her, and she deserves it.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, great musician, good songwriter and all that. So
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: you would know that she has an album called The
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: Life of a Showgirl, right, which was released sometime last year.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: The fate of Ophelia and whatever, Opal Light as well.
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: These two songs that we play plenty of here on
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: 987 and Elizabeth Taylor.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: She announced a brand new single. OK, I think it's
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: called Patient Zero. It will be available tomorrow and in
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: terms of physical copies, you can get the Patient Zero CD,
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: just the single itself. There are 3 variants, and then
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: also dropping on the same day. It's so funny that
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: it's called Patient Zero and there are 3 variants. I mean, it's,
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna go viral, that's for sure, yeah.
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: Um, look, and then she also announces the release of
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: The Life of a Showgirl Encore.
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: Encore meaning like there are other songs there or it's
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: a deluxe version, so I think it will feature 4
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: to 5 songs that she recorded in Sweden while on
• 9:55
  Speaker 1: a celebratory trip. What, you know what, I need to,
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: we need to learn from this girl. Like we're not
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: milking ourselves enough, Joe. When are we dropping our circuit
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: deluxe rap album? We've tried, it didn't work. No, we
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: didn't try. We didn't try. We had some ads where
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: we were rapping and singing.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that one for like other people, like, you know,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: what if we write for ourselves? I mean, here in
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: Singapore reps for example, they would have. They would have
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: signed us. So why do you think that is? Why
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: do you think they haven't called us?
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: Why do you think Universal Music hasn't called us? Do
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: you really want to deep dive into this conversation, Sonia?
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: I think we better do it off air. Yes, my,
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: my ego cannot take it this morning. So congrats to
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift giving the entire world to look forward to
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: something tomorrow. Patient Zero, and hopefully we'll be the first
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: to play it here on 987 for you. You realize
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: we're funding
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: honeymoon and her wedding and all that, right? I mean, hey, again,
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: it's the businessman mindset. Well, self-made. We're on to a
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: little story here today of Bodo crime and unfortunately this
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: one pretty face palm worthy. Although sometimes I feel, you know,
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: when we read these types of news on, you know,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: on your social media platforms and news platforms, right?
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, these people must have been pretty desperate or
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: they must have been in such a bad situation that
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: they try to steal even just like, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: few $100 or a few $1000 to maybe help their situation.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: That or maybe they love the thrill of it. For
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: this one, I'm on the fence. I feel like he
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: might have been driven to desperation, but I'll tell you
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: the story, then you see what happens, OK? You tell
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: me what you think.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: So I'm taking you to um my most used bank, OCBC.
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: What's up? Shout out to my friends at OCBC, like
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: literally all my accounts, my home loan, car loan, all
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: of them. But here's what happened at OCBC Center, unfortunately, OK. Um,
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: so I'm assuming this might have happened kind of close
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  Speaker 1: to the CNY period because a man in his 40s
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  Speaker 1: who was identified as a building technician, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: did a bit of an Ocean's 11 situation where he
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  Speaker 1: tried to tamper with the doors. Wait, you mean OCBC
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: and the right at the Chua Street, yeah, the main one,
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  Speaker 1: the main one at Chulia Street, where they have their
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  Speaker 1: offices in there as well, right?
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  Speaker 1: He went. He works there. So he's a building technician,
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  Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier. And um what he did was,
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  Speaker 1: like I mentioned also, Ocean's 11, he went to tamper
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  Speaker 1: with the doors and stuff like that and um let
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  Speaker 1: himself in to the office area.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Um, got through the access and then he went to
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: look at the workstations. He tried to look out for
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: red packets at the workstations. That's why I said I
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: think it was during, could have been during the CNY period. Rackets, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What else would it be?
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, red packets or something. No, no,
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: of course it would be. So I think he managed
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  Speaker 1: to identify like, oh, there were a few red packets
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  Speaker 1: and it amounted to about like 1,0003 in cash. He
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: took them, and I think some of these ang Paos
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: had other types of shopping vouchers too, um, but after
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  Speaker 1: he left the office, he reconnected the wire, put the
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  Speaker 1: door access cover back, and then closed the door.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: But of course, it was not long after that a
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  Speaker 1: staff member actually noticed something was amiss and um I
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: think they they they went and looked into like, hey,
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: there's CCTV everywhere, let's look into it.
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  Speaker 1: It was reported and eventually he was found with all
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  Speaker 1: these red packets, red-handed, caught red-handed. I, I, I don't
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: want to classify this as crime because the skills involved
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: like quite, quite advanced, is it? It's quite intricate and
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: very well thought of. So not exactly crime but the.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that he got caught, thank goodness. No, it's
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: not the intention of doing it at such a secure
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: place is indeed a little bit. You don't think so?
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: You know, it's the reverse psychology, right? They make you
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: think it's the most secure go straight to the source,
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: is it? But actually there's nothing there to make it secure. Well,
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: clearly there was, there's like a million CCTV cameras there. Like,
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: can you imagine, right? Like the nuclear codes, the password
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: is 1234. OK, bro, I think you watch too many
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: of these. Can you imagine?
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Reverse psychology, reverse psychology it's like some intricate password but
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: it's like 1234 000. Can you stop saying all my passwords.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: Anyway, whatever this guy is going through, he must be,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: you know, driven to quite a desperate situation. I hope
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: he figures this out, but of course, there are consequences.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Can I, can I ask you one question about your passwords? OK.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Here we go. Yeah. Are any of your passcodes 281291?
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I got to change my iPad. So, you've lived alone
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: for the last how many years now? Um, since COVID,
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: COVID times 2020. Congratulations 2012 oversharing here but I'm still
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: living with my mom because I'm all that she has
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and single parent child and all that and I do
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: wish to take care of her and make sure she's comfortable.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: But obviously there will come a point where I would
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: love a space of my own. Yeah, yeah, understandably so.
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  Speaker 1: And as of Monday, my mom actually is in Korea
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: right now visiting her family and her sister. She sends
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: me videos and every day, WhatsApp bubbles every day. She
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: will show me my auntie and she will force me
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: to speak in Korean to her, and then my auntie
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: and my mom will tag team together. Hi, Korean so bad.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Just finding a chance to bully you.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Poly P, you know what I mean, go and learn, uh,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: but I realized the fact that my mom's away and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I'm now the man of the house for a while,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: for just a few weeks.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I actually love doing housework. What? I actually love doing housework. OK, OK, OK, maybe,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: maybe I'll ask you again in a year. No, no, no,
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: because it's only been a couple of days. It's not
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: the first time my mom's been to and I'm on
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: my own for a while, but whenever she's away, I
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: find myself, right, doing the laundry regularly, ironing my clothes regularly,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: vacuuming the floor and all that. Can I, can I
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: just tell you my views here? When I first moved
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: into my place, my own place alone, OK.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I was excited about doing all of that. I will
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: keep my house guard and be like, in fact, I
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: was not very pleasant to be around. My parents will
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: tell you that because I'll be like, why put that there?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Put the, put the, put the mat before I put
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the plate on, you know, that kind of thing. I'll
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: be very, very, very particular.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: And I always make my bed in a certain way because,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a studio apartment, you know, people can
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: see into like many different places. I'll make sure like my,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: my toilet is always stocked with the nicest like um
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: soap and and and hand cream and all that. Fast
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: forward 12 years later, it's all gone, disaster. I don't know,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: but I, I feel that might not happen to me.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a honeymoon phase.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: You say that now, I'll ask you again when you
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: actually move into your room my room. My room is
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: super neat by my standards, but of course my mom
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: comes back, she'll see my room. She'll think it's messy. Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: We're gonna open up phone lines and ask you a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: question in just a little bit. Make sure you stand
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: by for that. Today's question all about discovering yourself and
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: characteristics about yourself when you had the opportunity to live.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: on your own. Now, I know that for a lot
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: of us, especially Asians, especially Singaporeans, we may not get
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to experience the whole like independent living because of, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: prices of property here in Singapore and all that. It's
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: either you travel overseas to study and you maybe stay
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: in hall or dorm, or maybe you had the chance
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to move out.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Judging myself when I travel, I'm actually very simple.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I, I, I like my beds made. I like my
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: place neat. I like to come back to a neat
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: looking room, of course, everyone wants that. So with my
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: mom in Korea for a family visit to my aunt,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Oh, please don't scold me anymore. Oh
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: my goodness, um, yeah, I, I realized I enjoy doing housework.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I'm now thinking about it, did I leave anything in
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the pail or you gonna wash my jersey? I love it,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it really, I love it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: And, and also because when my mom's at home, usually
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: she's the one that does it take care of these things, yeah,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: and the ironing and all, and she will help me
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: because busy at work, right, but now I realize I'm
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: finding pockets of time to dump everything in the washing machine,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: iron the clothes, and when I smell the fresh detergent,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I go, Oh, I feel so accomplished succeeded in life. Exactly.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: And every time I see how neat my house is,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I'm like, woo, wow, I mean, who did that? Can
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I hire you or something like.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, if it pays, hey, hey, friendly. I
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: wouldn't mind you donating to the bank of Joakim Gomez.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: It's OK.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I just thought of it BOJ. I'm dead. No, but OK,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: so my theory is that not, I, I'm very proud
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of you, honestly, I'm glad that you discovered that about
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: yourself because what I discovered about myself after moving out
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: was more of a confirmation of our suspicions this entire
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: time that I am busy. That's right, that I'm busy,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that I'm messy. What can't even English do I speak it?
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But I also busy. So that's the thing.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: You mentioned earlier that your mom takes care of things
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: at home usually and we're like busy at work and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: our hours are odd and all that, right? Yeah, I'm
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: sure Mama helped you as well. Of course, she still
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: helps me now because she cannot stand how disorganized I am.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So she will still bring like, um, let, let the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: part-time helper in to my place to clean up like
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: every once every week or two weeks. So, if I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: were to go to your place in the east and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I walk into the door, will I see clothes lying
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: around the floor? a pair of pants.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Germs used to say like, you know, when we, when
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: we first started living together, right, um, he used to
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: say he can tell exactly what I did that day
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: because he would say, OK, um, she left this cabinet
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: slightly open, she was taking something from here and then
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you see a pair of socks on the ground. OK,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: she came in through the socks here and then she
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: went to the toilet. And I remember one of the
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: first few things that Jeremy and Sonia had a friendly, I,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I won't say an argument, but like a friendly debate about, right?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: It's, uh, I think there was one day where Jeremy
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: came home and he was vocalizing out loud, eh, why
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is this cup here? I didn't leave it here. Eh,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: why is the plate in the sink or something like that.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I remember this was like in 2019.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, OK, um, you discover things about yourself
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: when you live on your own and like I said, yes,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you may enjoy it now. I'm not belittling it or like, um, um,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, undermining your, your abilities, but I'm saying the
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: true test is when you actually.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: out there on your own, like in your own place,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: and you have to maintain the entire house, like day
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: after day for years. OK, then I'll check in on
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: you again. 669-11987. The phone lines are open. You can
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: call us or you can WhatsApp us at 9005987.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: If you have had the privilege to live on your own,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: whether overseas on a uni dorm or your own rent
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: or you bought a place, yeah, let us know what's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the one thing you discovered about yourself living alone. Yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: about the things you might have about yourself when you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: had the chance to live on your own, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: during uni, dorm or your
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Um, holidays or maybe even moving out to, to just
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: be more independent, renting or buying. Got a couple of
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: texts coming in. Want to say good morning to Ray.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, one thing I discovered about myself when I
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: was doing my exchange studies at Sciences Po in France
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: was that I genuinely enjoy hosting people at my apartment. Wow!
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: This stretch.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Across dinners, parties, and even friends that were just staying
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: over for the weekend. This experience differed greatly when I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: stayed in the hall at NTU as the spaces there
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: were much smaller, and you don't really have your own
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: space to hold such events mentioned. The experience really made
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: me look forward to owning my own place. Oh, I mean,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what, it is a nice feeling.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The feeling of, um, you know, you can stay as
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: late as you want and you can just roll into
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: your bed after that. Hey, don't be surprised. Yeah, in
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the next few years if I do have my own place, right,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I'll be inviting you and Jeremy and a few close
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: friends for like Friday dinners or cookouts or barbecues or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I might make a very good host, you know. OK,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for it.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: You've attended. Oh wait, no, you've been to my condo
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: before for the barbecue. For the barbecue, yes. Yes, for
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the barbecue. So I haven't blessed your house with my presence. Oh,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: not many people have actually. It's, it's a, it's a
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: very messy place right now. So I don't, I've not
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: invited anyone in like a whole year. Sorry about that. OK,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: we got one message coming in from Japan. Sonia. hi. Hello, Alexis,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: you're a Singaporean.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Students studying in Japan right now, you used to live
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: in the school dorm, but you moved out to your
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: own place. One thing you learn after living alone for
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a year is that you actually enjoy doing chores. See?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Oh good. That's great. I just didn't like being told
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: what to do and when to do it. I like
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: doing things on my own accord. OK, so maybe that's
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the big difference. Like when you're getting nagged at, it
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: seems like a chore, pun intended.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But when, when you have to do it on your
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: own and you find the satisfaction in it, suddenly you're like, hey,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I'm good at this. OK, a bit oversharing nowadays when
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: my mom nag at me to do things, right, I'm like, Mommy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you know me, right? You know I will do it.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I just do it on my own time. The more
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you nag, I won't do strategy, but too late for me.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I scolded, don't be rude.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So in the end, you just don't win lah. You
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: can't win with your mom. There's no winning, yeah. Talking
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: about the things you've discovered about yourselves, maybe um characteristics
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: or just quirks you discovered about yourself after moving out.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: It could be, you know, for school when you study
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: overseas or you stay in a hall or dorm or
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: maybe even now in your adult life, having moved out already.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: We got one coming in from WL. Hey guys, last
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: time before I married my wife, she always is the
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: one telling me to be.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: neat and organized, not to create clutter and how she
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: had to do housework every day. I'm guessing in a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: very frustrated tone, you know, I'm so messy. I must
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: do myself. Fast forward to today, we have our own
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: house with 2 kids, and it's been 2 years in
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: our own home already. She is always the one creating clutter,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and I really suspect whether she does any housework before
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: because the number of times she did at our home,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I can count with 2 hands.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Best part is no one believes me because she does
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: have the very homely and motherly vibe and I'm like
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the opposite, but I swear it's true. She's not done
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: housework in a while. I'm guiltily right now.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, it's for me, I don't particularly enjoy
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: doing housework, but you know, when push comes to shove
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and um I'm drowning in my own clothes and plates,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: then I'll do it lah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: What is the uh barometer for you? Where will you
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: start doing housework? When? Sorry. OK, so I don't dirty plates. OK,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: so I will definitely the end of the day, I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: was left in the sink.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Um, what else? OK, bathroom, I'm quite particular about as well.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: These two things. I cannot smell musty, musky. I, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: wanted to say musty and musky at the same time.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: So I will clean it. Yeah. What is considered housework
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to you? Extreme is in your, in your mind? The
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: mind of Sonia Chew.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Like having to do multiple rounds of laundry is just
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: not it for me. I'm like, uh, I don't want
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: to hang clothes. I don't want to like old clothes.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Let's work out, but here's my problem is now, and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I know that my mom's going to agree with me
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: if she's tuning in, OK. The problem is I don't
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: mind putting the clothes in the, you know, washing machine
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: and hanging them.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: But when I fold them, I have not enough space
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to store them anymore. Like my, my closets are bursting.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: You know what this means? Time for a Sonia Chew
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: grab bag. Oh God, I did that once before and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the process of packing the bags was like, oh my goodness,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: took forever. No, no. I, I packed like 50 grab bags,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know, it was not easy because you still have
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: to curate them, then my anus came in again.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Very type A, right? I was like, OK, I need
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: to pair this with this. Each bag needs to have
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: some nice stuff, so it took super long. Judging from
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: your sizes, mostly kids showed up. No, I sent it out,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: so I don't know.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: My daughter could use your clothes. Honestly, take it off
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: my hands. I'm surprised. We've got on the line right now.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Tell us, what did you discover? When
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I was assigned overseas, I realized that after a while
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I was very lonely. I was talking to myself.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Everything, yeah, about everything. It's just like an imaginary family
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: with me, you know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can actually relate because I, I think Jo
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: knows sometimes I just my random like inner thoughts. Oh yeah,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I talk to myself too many times, but we're also
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: both like only children. Are you an only child, Chand?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: 5 in my family, yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I was, I was the youngest la, so I was
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: quite left alone all the time, you know, so, uh,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the lonely part, I compensated it by talking
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: to my imaginary family for 5 years. So when I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: came back and I was talking at home, you know, uh,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: thinking that nobody's at home, then my wife used to
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: come in and ask me, Who the hell are you
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: talking to? And I said, it's not you, lah, the
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: other wife.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: And that started a new argument.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I really think something is in retrograde these few weeks
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: because a lot of my friends.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: A lot of my friends have, you know, been going
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: through stuff and they're just like, uh, it's not the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: best time. Am I going through? Um, you're always going
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: through something, I think.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Something, something's happening. I'm the antithesis to astrology. I think
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: that what's going on out there in the universe. Anyway,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: going back to common sense, say hello.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Like good luck finding a partner. I want to say
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: hello to VC on WhatsApp. Hey Sonia and Joakim, after
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I have my, my, I have my own place, I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: realized I hate to wash and change bedding sheets, so
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: I never allow dirty clothes on the bed. Means I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: don't have to change bedding so often. Uh, VC doesn't
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: work that way. You still have to change the sheets.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: And also, sorry, this one a bit too.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Much information, but I learned more about poop type and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: how some might leave a mark on the bowl. Oh
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: my God. My friend swears by total toilet bowls though.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Gonna have to get that next time. Anyway, Sonia, if
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you have a grab bag, I support. I can help
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to pack, but let me have first dips. Sure, of course.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: The last time I did that, um, all the money
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: just went to donation, uh, to charity. That's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, hey,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: when it comes down to
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Um, toilet cleanliness, I will say. When I, on the,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: on the very rare occasion that I have people over,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: which is usually my parents or like one or two
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: of my girlfriends who live around the East Coast area
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: as well, um, I, I do have a tendency to
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like give the toilet bowl a scrub down after, especially
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: if my friends came over.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I remember there was once when I just moved in,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: skid marks whatsoever, when I just moved in, I, I
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: invited two of my close girlfriends to come over to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: celebrate one of their birthdays, to which they were very excited,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you know, they came over and everything, um, but one
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: of them had a little too much to drink and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: blessed my toilet bowl, if you know what I mean, so.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And that was that, that, that, that was how my
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: uh habit of scrubbing it down with Clorox and stuff started.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's been Merlion, so to speak. One more coming in
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: from Nick. Hey, Sojo, the one thing I found out
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: about myself when I first moved out and after I
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: got married.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of expired or near expiring foodstuff
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: in the fridge, not so much the perishables, but sauces
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: and all. Nick, you and my mom the same. Oh, I,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I love throwing out the expired stuff. Yeah, by the way, Mom,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: your Chobani yogurt is expired. I'm throwing it away tomorrow.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: 6 months or so, right? My goodness. That one you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: better toss out that dairy and you know, yogurt and stuff. So, um.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: This is usually around uh Joakim's favorite time of the year.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I say that with open inverted commas, OK, I say
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that with open inverted commas. It's OK because Halloween Horror
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Nights is officially back. Yeah, so yesterday, a lot of
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: your Singaporean personalities were invited, I believe, by RWS themselves for.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: A preview night for Halloween Horror Night. I was so
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: bummed because I wasn't feeling quite well the last couple
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: of days. Felt like I was coming down with something.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know whether I caught something from someone over
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the wedding weekend or something, but thankfully I didn't come
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: down with anything. But I missed out on the preview
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: of Halloween Horror Nights. Did it look terrifying or scary, or,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I missed out, shut up. You know. You should see
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: him right now. He's smiling.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: OK, he will always be permanently not free. So, I mean, again,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: shout out to all the personalities and the influences we
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: have here in Singapore. If you can do your best
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to not spoil the house too much. Like I know
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you're compiling your videos and your photos and don't, don't
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: spoil the house too much for people who are actually
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: gonna pay to go for heaven horror nights. To be honest,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I will say though, no matter how
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Any videos I see from your like favorite creators here,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it's still different when you go down yourself, you know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So gonna tell you about the houses this year. I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: think there are 4 Made in Hell XL Robotics. There's
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a chatterbox, Charlie's vaudeville Horace, Singapore's Most Haunted on Air,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: and Karanguni.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: The cursed collection. Wait, hold on. There's a radio studio one. I,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I think maybe it's more of like a recording studio
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: or something that might happen on cameras in the studio
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: on air. I'm trying to peek on the, on the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: site because yeah, when I, when I saw Singapore Most
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Haunted on air, huh, joking in the mornings, but you
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? That's my horror story every day. Karanguni,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: the Curse collection, they better have the Kaguni. I think
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: they will have, yeah, yeah, yeah, they will definitely.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The question is, because I think like, you know, Karanguni
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: is very our parents' generation and like when we were
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: kids and stuff, right? Do you think like the younger
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: people will understand what the maybe maybe the alphasmy what
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: is that? Gen Z, millennials and baby boomers can relate to.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You will at least know. And of course RWS will
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: target us millennials and Gen Zs and the baby boomers.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: That's where the money is at, man. We all could
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: pay for the express pass or the RIP tours, but
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: can I read to you an interesting thing that that's
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: happening this year? So I think the main villain could
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: be the Garang guni man this year, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Fatima Rockers. What is that a scare zone or what?
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: You will hear them before you see them. The Fatima
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Rockers roam in packs appearing where you least expect them.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: And if you see the pictures, they are dressed in
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a very familiar female spirit that we, that I don't
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: want to say the name of here in Singapore.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: as well scared. That's why. Yeah, he always, he always
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: calls it the lady. Yes, the lady, as in the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: letter P. Why are you scared? Can I say it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say it. You're not allowed to
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: say the name Thursday. So any other day you can say.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: There are some days you don't say it, specifically Thursday,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I guess so. Really? Where did you hear this from?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they could be trolling they could be trolling me,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, I'm gonna search this up after,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Got a
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: question for you, Jo.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And this one I feel is super relevant to to
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: everyone who's on social media very often. How much do
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you trust your favorite celebrities, um, personalities, and maybe even
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: creators like?
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: But wouldn't you call yourself, uh, you, you a bit
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: double standard, right? You say that you are trustworthy. Again,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: there are few who stand by with the supplements that
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: they take and then there are a few who are
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: there every single event, every single movie. Oh, it's so good.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: So you're saying that this is kind of like the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: same concepts, right? You don't know whether you want to
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: know that it's legit.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You know, you want to know that they are really
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: speaking from the heart and not a paid review because
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: we know how it works in our industry sometimes. But
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: now it goes beyond that. It's also, you know, your
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: favorite celebrities encouraging you to like invest in stuff and
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: all that, and they may not even be real. That's
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the problem. Some of ours here in Singapore in cryptocurrency, quiet, please, please. Well,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: we've got Steve Chia, our best friend, joining us in
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: just a minute.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, he's very real. You're very much real, although a
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: lot of celebrity celebrity, but you are a trusted figure
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: in the media. different category altogether. A beloved, a beloved personality.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, keep it coming. I'm we're just
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: glazing this morning, yeah. By the way, we get nothing
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: out of inviting him to our show, you know, we
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: just hang out and this is all a scam. Oh.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: What what's real anymore? Yeah, speaking of scam, when we
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: come back here on the show, we must address this.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Apparently Steve made the CEO of DBS very angry and
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: she stormed off the interview.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Added sound effects here. OK. Stay tuned. He's gonna tell
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: us everything you need to know about impersonations and scams
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: with one of the most well-loved people on screen here
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: in Singapore and our bestie, Steve Chia from CNN's Talking Point. Welcome.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Good to be back. He has put his time, his mind,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: his body on the line for Talking Point, and now
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: his image. Oh my goodness. Look, I mean, if we
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: ever had anything we needed to clarify.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Steve is always here to do that just like what
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: our people are saying on TikTok Live right now. We
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: love Steve Chia, the legendary Steve Chia. Steve Chia is goat. Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: And by the way, so earlier I was just kind
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of trolling Steve a little bit. I said, Hey, what happened?
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: How did you make the CEO of DBS so angry
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and she stormed off set? And if you're wondering what
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm referring to is this fake article that's been circulating
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: on social media. It's been now debunked. And if you're
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: on TikTok, you can see what the, what the article
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: looks like, where it's a
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Uh, what seems to be an AI generated image of Steve,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: which we can tell because we know him so well,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: but I must say, uh, Miss Tan Susan looks scarily alike,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like she's not so fierce lah. Yeah, we've met her
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and she's a lovely person. So yeah, this one looks
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: like you guys are in an argument. I mean, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: that's the whole premise of the story. I had done
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: an interview with her and I had said, oh, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: banks are basically taking our money and not giving us
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: very good returns, and she supposedly got upset.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Punch me in the face, got a bloody nose, you know,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and of course, after all that, I'm going back because
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I know how we can make money. Let me show you.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Click on this link and I will show you all
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the ways you can make money. Exactly. And that's the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: short story of what it was all about. That's the
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: problem I think for a lot of us, especially people
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: who are scrolling all the time, you scroll really quickly
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you just assume everything is real, especially if
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: they see your likeness, right?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: What is the percentage you feel of people who might
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: see a celebrity they recognize and trust what they're saying?
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Associate certain things and you do trust certain people more
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: than others, right? So generally I think the stuff I've done,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I, you know, we try very hard
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: to make sure everything we do, if I say I'm
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: doing it, I'm doing it because the moment I start
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: lying about it and you find out, you stop believing
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: what I say, right? Yeah, so in that sense, that
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: could be why they use my face, you know, um.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: And people, I mean, people were asking me. I had
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: friends calling me and saying, Hey, I've seen this. Is
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: it real? Did it really happen? You see, so people
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: don't look beyond the fact that even though the, the
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: bloody nose picture had me in an entirely different outfit,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: which that come to the interview in a different outfit,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you know, and so a lot of things, yeah, a
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: lot of things didn't match. But because we're all hooked
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: on the, the, what, you know, the clickbait in that sense,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and the idea that, I mean, the basic premises we're
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: all quite
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: greedy and therefore easily tempted by an easy way to
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: make money, but yeah. So I interviewed a guy who
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: works in the financial services sector and he himself had
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: clicked on an ad. Uh, he thought, OK, I know
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. He, he had gone, looked at the investment,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: been approached by them. He had done his due diligence,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, and he still got.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of $180,000. Wow! Yeah. You know why? So the scammers
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: are really smart. When they work with you, they do
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: not everything is illegitimate, not everything is fake. They'll say
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: this company ABC, uh, I expect it to go up,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: you know, by 2% or whatever, uh, then they send
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you to a platform, a real platform, a real stock
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: market indices, you know, and then they'll say we are
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: supported by this company.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: That is a real company that exists. So when you
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: do your research, it all looks legit. But somewhere along
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: the way, they lead you astray. What was that like?
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: Did you or was it like a cordial and respectful?
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I mean this scam, we contacted the platforms right away.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: They took it down.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: But unbeknown to me, it popped up on another website.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: So basically they just use a different website address, right?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: So I met with someone and he says, let's try it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So we clicked on it. This is all being recorded.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Within like 6-7 minutes, I got a phone call from
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the scammer himself. Hello, Mr. Chia, I see you are
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: interested in investing. Yeah well-spoken said, Oh, I'm calling you from.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: You know, we are a big company and we are
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: able to help you and, and then I'll be like, oh,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: tell me a bit more. And he was very professional,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: very fluent. Was the actual person or like an AI.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was a real person. The the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: scary part is what if like AI has become so
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: advanced that you can't even differentiate between AI and a person.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Thing with someone online, there's a very high chance that
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: it could be AI generated with a real person because
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: I was asking questions and he was so good. He
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I was like, how do I start investing?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: He's like, minimum is $250 and he explained how it
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: all worked. And then at the end of the conversation,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, OK, I'm interested. I would like to
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: put in, uh, $2000. He's like,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Sir, I think you should only start with $250 1st.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That's very smart, you know, and that's what they do.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: The first few times you will get your money back
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and you will make money and then you start putting
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: more in. I've made $100. 0, that was easy. $30,000.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: OK, now you get nothing back. I didn't, you know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: became friends and
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: And he was saying how I got my business, I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: need to renovate, but I can't afford it. And some, uh,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: just like two months into the relationship, so to speak,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and the person says, oh, maybe you can think about investing.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, oh, actually, I know, I know
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: a way and I know some people. And he introduced
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: him to that platform and
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: So based on your research and your investigative journalism, like, um,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you know, you said you spoke to this one dude
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: on the phone or something in the conversation, right? But
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: because it's like a long game, is it like multiple people,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: like a group of 20 just taking over the conversation,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: but they're following a script?
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: For the next 2 weeks, they called every day. They
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: called back. We didn't pick up the calls, but we
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: saw the missed calls. Every day they were calling, sometimes
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: twice a day because they want to follow up. The
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: fact that they can say, oh, just put in a
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: little bit first.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Do you think the scammers are actually studying the sentiments.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: There is a whole manual for scammers. It's like. I mean, we,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: we've all heard about this, you know, in other countries
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: where they've invaded scam compounds and seized.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: It's like a multinational company. They run it in ways
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: that you cannot imagine like Media Corp. I mean, they
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: have operations, they have HR, they have everything, you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: and we also discovered from speaking to the police that
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of these things are located geographically in different countries.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Why do you do that?
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Because then it's hard to really catch them and different jurisdiction.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Country A cannot do anything in Country B and some countries,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: different regulations, different rules, you know, you might get away
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: with some stuff there. It is, it's more than a syndicate.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: It's a billion, multi-billion.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Syndicate. So based off what you learned about all these
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: scams and scams in general that surprised you the most?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Uh, Prime Minister Lawrence Wong, former Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, I've got all these people, you know,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: this is my crowd, yeah, making money with them, but, um,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: the premise is if it's too good to be true,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: it really is too good to be true. You can't,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you can't make a fast buck. Nothing can ever promise
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: you a fast buck, I think.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: So the the story doesn't change, but it's so easy
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: to write the story because online it's just words, right,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and pictures easily manipulated and now we've seen with the
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: deep fake videos as well. So this, this episode on cryptocurrency? Ah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: we do, because very often they're now asking you to
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: pay in cryptocurrency. And the best part is, yes, they
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: say pay to this platform. It's a real crypto wallet
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: at first.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Along the way, they'll say, now transfer it to this
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: other wallet. Yeah, really risky. Like honestly, even some of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: the dudes who are in finance, for example, when crypto
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: just came about, they themselves also people who think that
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: they are savvy with finance, they also got scammed.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And they got their digital wallets like broken into, um,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: coins stolen and all that. Can I, can I share
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: with you? OK. And this person works for one of
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: the agencies who are actually tied in with this whole
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: anti-scam thing, right?
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Her aunt got scammed of $30,000 and till this day,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the aunt is blaming the family, saying, See lah, you
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: all say I got scammed. The scammer don't want to
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: return me my money. Oh my gosh, the, the bank
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: teller she calls it, and it's scary. So how can
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: people here in Singapore fight this? I mean, it really
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: is a psychological game. What they're doing isn't really mind blowing,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you know, the concept.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: But yeah, just be more aware and really if it
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: offers you an easy opportunity to make money, just ask yourself,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: can it really be that way and do a bit
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: more research because very often if you just double-check, put
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: up the website address, somebody will have encountered it and
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: flagged it, you know. I mean, yeah, cryptocurrency is a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: hard one. I mean that day I bought myself something
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: called a Dad coin.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Of course you did. It's worthless but full of jokes,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you know. Oh no. Scammers are obviously not very nice
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: to their victims, but they are super nice. They act nice.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But the intention is bad. Yeah, but you don't know
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: that until it's too late. It's it's a wolf in
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: sheep's clothing. So in turn you are nice to them too.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: That's the thing. How interesting. OK. Can I ask you
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: a fun one? Sure. Between the two of us, Steve,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: who's more scammable? Who do you think is more scammable?
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: I know the answer he's looking for.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, don't give it to him. Don't baiting
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you again you could say the example he gave the
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: financial advisor who said he knew what he was doing
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: but he lost $180,000. That could have been me.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I would say equally scammable in different ways. I was
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: gonna say that, yeah. OK, then what do you think
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Joakim will fall for and what will I fall for?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Just based on what you know of us personality-wise I
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: don't know, it could be a scam.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: OK, this one, this one I can happily say no lah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think love scam, but maybe like you tell
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: me football scam. Oh yeah, that's true. Cheap tickets to
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Old Trafford. I'll, I'll get it, man. I'll try. And
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: then for, for our darling, please now that she's married,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: you know the assessment, yeah, um.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: He's really, he's really assessing, another one of those, maybe like, uh,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: some products endorse something, endorsement scam endorsements, OK, I was
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: gonna say package scam scam as in like shopping. No, no, like,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: you know, manicures or like massage or something, oh, if
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you buy like 5, you know, we're trying to figure
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: out whether it's a scam or not.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: You know, this is another story someone pitched to us
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: where these beauty salons, they open up, they sell packages,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: then they close down, they declare bankruptcy, and they open
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: up in the same location with a different name. I
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: think you should do it if you are doing an
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: episode like that, I can be a bit and you
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: have a camera, I volunteer Sonia as the as the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: unsuspecting victim. You know all about the packages.
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. OK. But before we, we wrap it up, I think,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: you know, the consensus that a lot of people have is,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: if it's too good to be true, it probably is
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: too good. You know, there's no free meal in this world,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: as people are saying, can't get rich overnight. Anything else
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: that we need to take note of, like, and the
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: episode drops tonight, so I know you don't want to
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: give too much away, but anything else you want to share? I,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Always uh, it might help to, to share with someone
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm doing this, and you know, an
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: outside perspective sometimes will help because you're kind of caught
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: in the moment, especially when they return money the first
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: few times you're like, Oh, I've made some money, you know, uh,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and of course you can always just check in because
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: police are doing a lot of things. They have a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: whole department dedicated to this scam shield on our phones helps,
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: but it obviously doesn't block everything.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: You know, um, I unfortunately don't really have a foolproof solution.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It's really just about thinking and asking yourself, taking a moment,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: especially a pause just to say, let me think about it.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Could this really be, can I really make $100 in
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: just 30 minutes, right?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: If you could, and if it really worked, everybody will
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: be doing it and there'll be a whole bunch of
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: rich people around us. I mean vigilant. So in fact,
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: another one, if you look at my Instagram, got to
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: me on Instagram and said, Hey, I need your help.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: My aunt is being scammed by someone who looks like you.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Can you please record a video of yourself.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Telling her that it's all fake. So immediately I was like,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna send you a video for sure, you know,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: but I did communicate with this person seemed really genuine,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: and they sent me a picture of myself on with my, uh,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: my face on an IC, you know. So it was
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: just not my name, it was Steven Chen, but basically, yeah.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull it out now, but basically, yeah,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: they're using that, so, so I, I still don't know
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: till today whether that was true or not. I did
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: report it to the police, you know, they did sort
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: of try to track it down, but they did tell
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: me that, um, that this number is this IC number
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: has been used before, has been flagged. So I think
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the first, the first thing everyone should do is just
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the moment you get something, just report it because the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: police also can benefit.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: from the more people flag it, the more they have
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: in their database to know and they can check on it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: That's great. OK, good. Wow, I mean, I think out
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: of all the celebrities that we know, you're probably the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: one with, uh, you know, most face out there right now,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: most trustworthy. They won't, I don't know. I don't think
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: we look very trustworthy, do we? For example,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: You in some high fashion scam. They, they put me
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in some sports scam or running scam or running supplements,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You never know. Somebody watching
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: us right now on TikTok Li could be working for
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a scam syndicate. Think about this. It's OK. It's OK.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I have a way to solve all of this. I mean,
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of scams out there, and I
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: can help you just for 79.95.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: And 2 minutes of your time.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much Steve, for joining us. Always a joy.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I'm lowkey a little disappointed there was not another dad
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: joke to wrap this up. Oh, OK, I mean there
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: was one time a scammer invisible, but I just can't
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: see myself buying that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I walked right into that one, Joe. You asked for it.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I asked for it. Ask and it shall be delivered traffic. Anyway,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: please catch Talking Points. It's 9:30 p.m. on Channel 5
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: and of course onWatch and later on on YouTube. Yeah, exactly.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: So give Steve a follow as well, not Steve Chen Steve. Yes.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Catch up with all the best bits of our show
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: on me Listen and Spotify.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Aside from today being the start of PSLE, we also
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: say Avengers Endgame Encore. It's out in cinemas. I've got
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: my ticket. Oh, you already did to watch it next week. OK. Yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: apparently there are 4 minutes of additional scenes and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Uh, you might want to avoid TikTok for a while. Oh,
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: lots of spoilers. People are spoiling what the bonus overseas
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: or what, yeah, and also your favorite movie reviewers, some
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: of them, but I like them because they will always
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: issue a 12th spoiler warning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: if you want to find out, you can watch the video.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: So they've broken down.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: The scenes already. I'm not going to spoil it for myself.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: I want to be surprised in the cinema. I'm quite
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: good at avoiding spoilers. Like if there is a movie
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: or something that's super hyped up about, the moment I
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: see any semblance of your escrow pass, I like slap immediately.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: And also because you're the spoiler. No, I'm not. I
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: learned from my mistake. Mistake. That was the one time.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I'll never forgive you for something you did 12 years ago, bro.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: This is why you're single, OK.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: You must forgive and forget. Context is Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. OK,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: we can now say we, we know his love interest
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: dies in the film. I don't know why Joy needs
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to repeat this every year. OK. And then I didn't
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: even watch it yet and Sonia was like, Oh my God,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: did you see the movie? Yeah, I'm so sad, right?
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Emma Stone died.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: OK, hold on, hold on. In my defense, in my defense,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: I really thought that these were endings that are known already,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: like in the, in the books or the comics. So
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: that's why I thought, that's why I thought I didn't
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: think you'd be surprised. Yeah, I went into the cinema
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: so angry and to be honest, I don't think he's
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: let go of that anger yet. So I hope, I
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: hope that you're more forgiving when it comes to your
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: future dates or wife, you know a therapist. Oh, you
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: mean you still haven't found a therapist? No wonder it's
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: still like that.