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- 0:00Speaker 1: Joins us live on the Out of Bounds show ESPN
- 0:04Speaker 1: one oh five nine The Zone, and she has some
- 0:06Speaker 1: exciting news for us. I don't know what's more exciting, Mandy,
- 0:10Speaker 1: the fact that Grit is aw somewhere Connor Griffin and
- 0:14Speaker 1: Jake Mangham and JT Gin and Mandy Curry workout, which
- 0:19Speaker 1: is awesome. You'll have a beautiful facility. You've renovated it.
- 0:22Speaker 1: It looks great. Or that you got married this summer
- 0:25Speaker 1: and you swam Alcatraz.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a big summer.
- 0:29Speaker 3: It's been a big congratulations.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. What's your husband's name, Shane? Shout
- 0:35Speaker 1: out to Shane and Mandy. I hope y'all have I
- 0:38Speaker 1: know y'all had a great time this summer, and we're
- 0:41Speaker 1: excited for you. Now we're going to get to Grit
- 0:45Speaker 1: in a second. But the fact that you swam Alcatraz
- 0:48Speaker 1: is amazing to me. Set this up for us and
- 0:51Speaker 1: how this all came.
- 0:52Speaker 2: About, well, as I'm a swimmer, so Alcatra swim has
- 0:57Speaker 2: kind of been one of those things back in my
- 0:59Speaker 2: head bucket, let's for sure. But I really never thought
- 1:02Speaker 2: i'd make it out to California, and I was scoping
- 1:05Speaker 2: out baseball games where our boys were facing off on
- 1:09Speaker 2: each other, right, and the Pirates were going to play
- 1:14Speaker 2: the Athletics and Sacramento, and I'm like, how far is
- 1:17Speaker 2: that from San Francisco? And so it was then it
- 1:21Speaker 2: was about making it a trip. So when we went
- 1:24Speaker 2: to see them play, I swam Alcatraz, We went to Yosemite.
- 1:29Speaker 2: We got two baseball games. So it was a great
- 1:32Speaker 2: It was a fun week. We needed a vacation from
- 1:34Speaker 2: our vacation at it was over, but it was it
- 1:36Speaker 2: was a lot of fun.
- 1:37Speaker 3: It was still a great experience.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Yes, Mandy Curry with Grit Fitness and Training, Lakeland Drive,
- 1:43Speaker 1: flow Wood check it out, tour it this week. They've
- 1:46Speaker 1: got all kinds of exciting stuff going on. And Jay
- 1:49Speaker 1: Powell's there too as director of baseball operations. All right,
- 1:52Speaker 1: so you swim Alcatraz. How long did it take you?
- 1:56Speaker 1: And what was the temp of the water?
- 2:00Speaker 2: So the water temp was probably the coldest part. I mean,
- 2:03Speaker 2: at the worst part it was. It was fifty eight
- 2:05Speaker 2: degrees the water was said. I did get to swim
- 2:07Speaker 2: in a wet suit, but it's like still talking yourself
- 2:10Speaker 2: into jumping into water that's that cold? Is it takes
- 2:14Speaker 2: your breath away?
- 2:16Speaker 1: Had you ever swam in water that cold for any
- 2:19Speaker 1: long period of I mean, not thirty five minutes, but
- 2:23Speaker 1: like ten minutes.
- 2:25Speaker 2: I mean I've done several cold plunges before, so yes,
- 2:28Speaker 2: but never in the water for that long. Now, of course,
- 2:31Speaker 2: when you're doing a cold plunge, you're sitting still, right,
- 2:34Speaker 2: so getting your body moving and stuff makes a big difference.
- 2:37Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, so it was it was cold for
- 2:41Speaker 2: that first minute, and then once you get moving, you're
- 2:43Speaker 2: adrenaline takes over and you're just you're just rolling by
- 2:46Speaker 2: that time.
- 2:47Speaker 1: And it took you about thirty five minutes to swim Alcatraz.
- 2:51Speaker 2: It did it?
- 2:51Speaker 4: Did?
- 2:52Speaker 3: Were you scared?
- 2:53Speaker 2: No?
- 2:54Speaker 3: Wow? That freaked me out being in that water. What
- 2:58Speaker 3: was the current?
- 2:59Speaker 2: Like? What was the So it was choppy? Very So
- 3:03Speaker 2: I've swam I've done a couple of iron Man's and
- 3:06Speaker 2: some of them have been in the Gulf and so
- 3:08Speaker 2: and we've had some red flag swims that I've made
- 3:11Speaker 2: it through. But with those, you could predict the waves
- 3:15Speaker 2: and so like breathing and stuff like that, Like I
- 3:17Speaker 2: could kind of time out my breast now out here.
- 3:19Speaker 2: I mean I get smacked in the face with a wave.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I wouldn't know it was coming.
- 3:24Speaker 3: You literally get drilled the breath.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Yeah, so then it was like catching your breath and
- 3:28Speaker 2: kind of regrouping and.
- 3:29Speaker 3: You have got balls. Yes, yes, second, yeah, recoop and
- 3:34Speaker 3: go recoop game. That's incredible.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Mandy Curry, owner GM Grit Fitness and Training on Lakeland
- 3:43Speaker 1: Drive and again Jake Ingham gave them a an unbelievable
- 3:47Speaker 1: and it was totally off the cuff in January when
- 3:50Speaker 1: he jumped in studio before going down to the Pirates
- 3:53Speaker 1: spring training, he was like, Yeah, I work out there.
- 3:55Speaker 3: I love it. That's where I want to be.
- 3:57Speaker 1: Then Jay Powell comes in and talks about the way
- 3:59Speaker 1: that Mangam and Connor and those guys approach their workouts,
- 4:03Speaker 1: which was really cool. They have monthly memberships Grit Fitness
- 4:07Speaker 1: and Training, plus you can book your team there throughout
- 4:10Speaker 1: the year to train indoors or outdoors. Okay, it took
- 4:13Speaker 1: you thirty five minutes to swim Alcatraz? Did was that
- 4:18Speaker 1: challenging for you? You're in great shape, Okay, you look amazing.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Was it challenging for you at all?
- 4:25Speaker 3: Physically.
- 4:26Speaker 2: No, No, I'm a swimmer though, like you know, that's.
- 4:29Speaker 3: That's incredible to me. It wasn't you can just don't
- 4:33Speaker 3: don't don't do that, you know, it wasn't.
- 4:35Speaker 2: I mean the hardest part was, like I said, kind
- 4:38Speaker 2: of the just timing out your breast.
- 4:41Speaker 3: But like from a I would have made a link point.
- 4:44Speaker 1: No, way, you can do that all day, right, right,
- 4:47Speaker 1: Like if you're a straight line in the reservoir, you
- 4:50Speaker 1: can swim for for a long long time, right.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Okay, yes, okay, so what is that?
- 4:54Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's like what almost two miles
- 4:57Speaker 4: it is, so, but they say it feels like a
- 5:01Speaker 4: whole lot longer.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Yeah, with that.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Current current And then most people, you know, when you're
- 5:06Speaker 2: training for any type of swim, you're in a pool,
- 5:08Speaker 2: so you've got walls to rest on. You don't realize
- 5:11Speaker 2: it even when you're just turning fast, that's a rest
- 5:14Speaker 2: period and so you don't have anything to grab on to.
- 5:17Speaker 1: How many people were with you, it was just me,
- 5:22Speaker 1: do you have to like shine in or you just
- 5:24Speaker 1: do it random?
- 5:24Speaker 2: No, you have to sign up to do it, and
- 5:27Speaker 2: they do swims out there every day, and so when
- 5:29Speaker 2: you sign up. You don't know if you're signing up
- 5:31Speaker 2: to swim with twenty people or or one crazy And
- 5:34Speaker 2: so when I was in fact, when people would joke
- 5:37Speaker 2: with me about sharks, I was like, well, I'll be
- 5:38Speaker 2: out there with other people. I'll sharks eat them. And
- 5:40Speaker 2: then she was like, you're it.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Do they have like a little boat beside you with
- 5:45Speaker 1: the lifeguard.
- 5:45Speaker 3: You have to do it with rational you have.
- 5:48Speaker 2: To do it with the boat guide. They won't let
- 5:49Speaker 2: you because there's so many cargo ships out there.
- 5:53Speaker 3: Was that scary.
- 5:54Speaker 2: It was early, so it was before a lot of
- 5:56Speaker 2: that Okay, movement kind of started.
- 5:58Speaker 1: What time did you in Mandy Curry with Grit Fitness
- 6:02Speaker 1: and training on Lakeland Drive? What time did you get
- 6:05Speaker 1: out there?
- 6:07Speaker 2: I got out there at six in the water at seven.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Oh it was freezing at that point.
- 6:12Speaker 2: Yes, it was cold, but the water's notice choppy that early.
- 6:15Speaker 2: So that was the key.
- 6:18Speaker 3: Okay, at the end of the day, it's moving. Did
- 6:20Speaker 3: you did you.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Challenge your husband as a newlywed to swim with you.
- 6:27Speaker 2: No, he was like, I'll be there to cheer you on.
- 6:31Speaker 3: He was there, he did, he did.
- 6:33Speaker 2: He took lots of pictures and he was my number
- 6:36Speaker 2: one fan.
- 6:37Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, did you ever get really tired?
- 6:41Speaker 2: No?
- 6:41Speaker 3: See, really it's incredible.
- 6:44Speaker 2: But it was just about, you know, pacing yourself. I
- 6:46Speaker 2: think my heart rate was just more like it's adrenaline
- 6:49Speaker 2: when you kind of get in there.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Fifty eight degrees.
- 6:53Speaker 1: She's wearing a swimsuit and then she swims Alcatraz thirty
- 7:01Speaker 1: five minutes, just.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Her and now gives credence to the whole legend of
- 7:05Speaker 4: those guys escaping.
- 7:07Speaker 1: Right, you appreciate she she thinks that they were able
- 7:09Speaker 1: to escape after swimming it. Mandy Curry, Grit Fitness and Training,
- 7:14Speaker 1: swim Alcatraz.
- 7:15Speaker 3: That's excredible. I'm giving a word and you you've told
- 7:19Speaker 3: us the story.
- 7:21Speaker 1: We will have to hold you over because Luke's not
- 7:23Speaker 1: coming on until nine thirty, So we are good. Mandy Curry,
- 7:27Speaker 1: Grit Fitness and Training. She got married this summer. She
- 7:30Speaker 1: swims Alcatraz and she called baseball games with Mangum Connor
- 7:35Speaker 1: and JT. Gin Casual, who all work out at Grit
- 7:39Speaker 1: Fitness and Training on Lakeland Drive behind ergon Mirror Lake.
- 7:44Speaker 3: This is unbelievable. You can't even.
- 7:48Speaker 1: I mean, if I get this room, at sixty nine degrees.
- 7:53Speaker 3: You act like we are in the Arctic. It's gold there. Yeah,
- 7:56Speaker 3: it's cold right now here. Unbelievable.
- 8:00Speaker 1: All right, Mandy's gonna hang out with this one more segment.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Mandy Curry Grit Fitness and Training. She swam Alcatraz this summer.
- 8:09Speaker 1: Fifty eight degrees water. That's incredible cool thirty five minutes.
- 8:16Speaker 1: You wouldn't even have lasted sixty seconds.
- 8:19Speaker 3: No, you need to do a cold plunge. Those are good, man,
- 8:23Speaker 3: They're pretty awesome.
- 8:24Speaker 2: You feel yeah, I do that?
- 8:28Speaker 3: Yeah? All right.
- 8:30Speaker 1: The Out of Bound Show is brought to you by
- 8:32Speaker 1: Grit Fitness and Training. Uh, call today and tour the facility.
- 8:36Speaker 1: They've renovated the whole deal and it looks great. We'll
- 8:39Speaker 1: talk about the classes that they're offering this summer on
- 8:43Speaker 1: the other side for those of you who want to
- 8:46Speaker 1: get in better shape or just get in shape, powered
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- 9:00Speaker 2: All right, you're gonna show me the money.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Out of Bounds ESPN one oh five Down the Zone
- 9:12Speaker 1: brought to you by Grit Fitness and Training in Flowood
- 9:18Speaker 1: behind ergon Mirror Lake, and it's full service memberships, monthly
- 9:24Speaker 1: memberships and then your baseball, softball, among other sports. Teams
- 9:29Speaker 1: can book different things, whatever you need to do on
- 9:33Speaker 1: the property.
- 9:34Speaker 3: It's set up. Mandy Curry, owner.
- 9:37Speaker 1: GM with US Grit Fitness and Training. Also J Powell's
- 9:43Speaker 1: head of their director of their baseball operations. Jay joined
- 9:46Speaker 1: us throughout the spring and he did a great job
- 9:51Speaker 1: and he's running there. I mean, they have MLB players
- 9:54Speaker 1: and college players in high school and junior college, and
- 9:57Speaker 1: I mean.
- 9:58Speaker 3: The whole deal. Didn't they got the swimming component. Well
- 10:00Speaker 3: we'll tee up Mandy.
- 10:01Speaker 1: All right, So Mandy Curry on ESPN one oh five
- 10:04Speaker 1: nine the Zone Grit Fitness and Training. Is it weird
- 10:07Speaker 1: that I'm saying Curry, Well.
- 10:10Speaker 2: It's still like it is still new for sure.
- 10:13Speaker 3: How long you been married?
- 10:15Speaker 2: We got married on seven eleven.
- 10:17Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the other day. You've even married three weeks?
- 10:20Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 10:20Speaker 3: Okay, cool, all right, that's awesome.
- 10:24Speaker 1: All right, show, let's start with the classes that you'll
- 10:29Speaker 1: offer on a weekly and monthly basis.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Walk me through that.
- 10:33Speaker 2: So we are adding new classes that start next week. Actually,
- 10:38Speaker 2: we have several adult classes. Our most well known adult
- 10:42Speaker 2: classes they're sweat class. It's kind of like a boot
- 10:44Speaker 2: camps and mix a cardoon strength chain, and but we
- 10:47Speaker 2: are adding a adult strength class and that one's going
- 10:50Speaker 2: to be at six am every day. We have a.
- 10:53Speaker 3: Perfect time for you. Go ahead, sorry, man, you're good.
- 10:56Speaker 2: And then we also have been offering and we'll continue
- 10:59Speaker 2: to offer. We have an nine am ladies. We call
- 11:02Speaker 2: it BB class but sans for Barbelle or big Booti's or.
- 11:06Speaker 3: Yeah I love that, Okay, cool.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Nine am the ladies.
- 11:13Speaker 3: You ever do that one?
- 11:14Speaker 2: I do that one. That one's kind of become my
- 11:16Speaker 2: norm over the summer. Now that school's back, I'll probably
- 11:19Speaker 2: switch to that six am class. But we are adding
- 11:24Speaker 2: some other evening classes, which is we're doing a step class,
- 11:29Speaker 2: like a hip hop step class, so that we're excited
- 11:33Speaker 2: about that. And then we're also adding a stretch and
- 11:37Speaker 2: recovery class, so it's kind of like an athletic stretching
- 11:40Speaker 2: but it's for adults or athletes, but it's it's just
- 11:44Speaker 2: it's the end of the week. It's going to be
- 11:46Speaker 2: a Thursday evening class. And in addition to our yoga class,
- 11:50Speaker 2: we're adding a class called Primal Flow.
- 11:54Speaker 3: Primal Low Grit Fitness and Training. Mandy Curry go ahead.
- 12:00Speaker 2: So those are all of our adult classes. Of course,
- 12:02Speaker 2: we'll have our use being Agility that's starting up in
- 12:05Speaker 2: a week and that's every afternoon Monday through Thursday. That's
- 12:08Speaker 2: for ages eight through twelve.
- 12:11Speaker 3: That's big.
- 12:12Speaker 1: You mentioned that last time you were on the air,
- 12:14Speaker 1: and then we have let's go over that again.
- 12:17Speaker 2: What days is that Monday through Thursday at four pm?
- 12:20Speaker 2: Speed Agility, Speed Agility.
- 12:22Speaker 1: They've done any better than that? Powered by Grit fitness
- 12:25Speaker 1: and training. We know we have parents listening. You want
- 12:27Speaker 1: your kids to stay active, but if they're already athletes,
- 12:30Speaker 1: then you only want to enhance what they can do.
- 12:32Speaker 3: It's right, okay, and elevate their skills set.
- 12:35Speaker 2: It is amazing and I didn't understand it until I
- 12:38Speaker 2: kind of gotten this field of work that you don't
- 12:42Speaker 2: know how to jump like kids aren't just worn knowing
- 12:44Speaker 2: how to jump or change of direction, things like that.
- 12:48Speaker 2: So those are things that they're covering in that class,
- 12:50Speaker 2: and we can continue to cover those basics with our
- 12:54Speaker 2: Grit Performance group, which is geared towards our junior in
- 12:57Speaker 2: high school athletes. Okay, so that one starts at six fifteen,
- 13:00Speaker 2: and so it is it is coached by two of
- 13:03Speaker 2: our strength coaches and there they are really they use
- 13:08Speaker 2: electronics and so they.
- 13:10Speaker 3: Oh, they're using analytics, right.
- 13:11Speaker 2: And we do speed gates and stuff like that. So
- 13:14Speaker 2: it gets a lot more technical for our older ones,
- 13:16Speaker 2: but it's awesome, all right.
- 13:18Speaker 1: So you've got speed agility classes eight to twelve years
- 13:21Speaker 1: old powered by Grit Fitness and training on Lakeland Drive.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Then you've got the Grit Performance Division, which is for
- 13:28Speaker 1: junior high and high school students. Correct, that's that's pretty awesome.
- 13:32Speaker 1: They've got the nine am BB for women, and then
- 13:35Speaker 1: they've got the six am for anyone.
- 13:38Speaker 3: Right, that's right, which you've you know, you've done the.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Six during school, nine am during the summer. And then
- 13:45Speaker 1: she mentioned the step slash hip hop in the evening.
- 13:48Speaker 1: Y'all got a lot of cool fun stuff. You'll want
- 13:52Speaker 1: me to teach that?
- 13:53Speaker 3: Good?
- 13:53Speaker 2: Absolutely, So yeah, our spin classes will continue as well.
- 14:00Speaker 2: Spin classes a staple there, so we still have those going.
- 14:04Speaker 1: I'll pay you one hundred dollars. I'll teach you if
- 14:07Speaker 1: you will do the I want you to do the
- 14:11Speaker 1: hip hop class.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. In the spin class, I spin it
- 14:15Speaker 3: an I'll pay that's fifty bucks. What are they thirty
- 14:18Speaker 3: to sixty minutes?
- 14:19Speaker 2: Yes, so the spin class is thirty minutes. The step
- 14:22Speaker 2: class will be forty five.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Okay, so that's less than an hour and a half.
- 14:27Speaker 1: I'm paying you one hundred dollars to do the spin
- 14:29Speaker 1: class and the that'd be cool and fun.
- 14:32Speaker 3: Yes, but you're do you want a hund day or not?
- 14:34Speaker 4: I mean, it's not one hundred for it's be one
- 14:36Speaker 4: hundred for a whole day of work though, I mean
- 14:38Speaker 4: I gotta go the hospital afterwards.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Being out there, you can go to taste Italian Kitchen
- 14:42Speaker 1: with Mackenzie.
- 14:44Speaker 3: True for one hundred dollars, It's true, and you can
- 14:47Speaker 3: get some bowlonnais or fried ravioli. How about that, man?
- 14:53Speaker 3: Okay for that poor job.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So I want to I want to
- 14:57Speaker 1: go over this again for our parents listening. Mandy Curry,
- 15:01Speaker 1: owner GM Grit Fitness and Training, Lakeland Drive, behind Ergon
- 15:05Speaker 1: Mill Miller Mirror late.
- 15:09Speaker 3: All right.
- 15:09Speaker 1: The speed and agility classes are for eight to twelve
- 15:13Speaker 1: years old.
- 15:13Speaker 3: That's cool.
- 15:14Speaker 1: Grit Performance is for junior high in high school. The
- 15:18Speaker 1: six AM is for anybody that's like.
- 15:21Speaker 2: A So that's a strength class. Now our sweat class
- 15:24Speaker 2: is five am and is more of that.
- 15:28Speaker 3: I can't even make that.
- 15:29Speaker 2: It's the mix between cardio and stream. That's too early
- 15:33Speaker 2: to sweat five am noon or five thirty, that's two early.
- 15:41Speaker 1: She just threw the sweat class at you, and your
- 15:44Speaker 1: face was like, you were okay with the six am
- 15:47Speaker 1: strength class.
- 15:49Speaker 3: The sweat class threw you all. Let me see what
- 15:51Speaker 3: sweat class is okay, looks like? And then you've got
- 15:54Speaker 3: the hip hop in the evening.
- 15:55Speaker 1: And then you've got spin classes and we mentioned the
- 15:58Speaker 1: batting cages, and you got indoor mounds, yes, and then
- 16:02Speaker 1: you've got the turf out side on the right side
- 16:05Speaker 1: if you're facing the building.
- 16:06Speaker 2: And if parents can get real strategic, then you can
- 16:09Speaker 2: time out like a baseball lesson or or right or
- 16:15Speaker 2: baseball price, softball practice, whatever your kids are doing, yeah,
- 16:18Speaker 2: volleyball practice, and then you go work.
- 16:21Speaker 3: Out right heck yeah, or just go in the.
- 16:23Speaker 2: Gym right yeah, because we have the sauna or the
- 16:26Speaker 2: recovery boots where.
- 16:27Speaker 3: You could just love the saunas on them. Yeah.
- 16:30Speaker 1: I love what Jay Powell said about Connor Griffin and
- 16:32Speaker 1: Jake Bangham in there. He said, I mean they're both
- 16:35Speaker 1: great guys. But when they get in there, there's.
- 16:37Speaker 2: No bs right right, and they're there for like ever
- 16:41Speaker 2: four or five hours there. They just come in and
- 16:44Speaker 2: it's like, man, we'll warm up with some basketball and
- 16:48Speaker 2: then we're gonna go lift, and then they're gonna hit,
- 16:52Speaker 2: and then they'll be on the outdoor field doing like.
- 16:54Speaker 3: Is Jay lifting with them? Because he's gotten real? Jay
- 16:57Speaker 3: has he gotten? Did you see?
- 16:59Speaker 1: But seriously, Jay's got He's in shape. Head, you're right, No,
- 17:05Speaker 1: I mean you're you're an amazing shape. But Jay, the
- 17:08Speaker 1: last time Jay came in, I was like, hang on, yeah,
- 17:13Speaker 1: he's working out at GRIT. He's not just running your
- 17:15Speaker 1: baseball division. He's working out at GRIT.
- 17:17Speaker 2: He does come in and he gets his work out in.
- 17:19Speaker 3: Okay, he came in Barrel Chest, Yeah.
- 17:23Speaker 2: The Cape this summer. So we're going to see what
- 17:25Speaker 2: he's been doing.
- 17:25Speaker 3: Oh, let's see if he's been loading up on debris fries.
- 17:29Speaker 3: I cannot wait.
- 17:30Speaker 1: We're getting Jay in next week because he he was
- 17:32Speaker 1: he had several of the Mississippi state and old miss
- 17:34Speaker 1: pictures that he got to see and and so on.
- 17:37Speaker 1: So we got to get an update from from Jay
- 17:39Speaker 1: Powell and we've got to see if he was into
- 17:42Speaker 1: the nachos and debris fries over the summer.
- 17:45Speaker 2: In the day and he's been you know, he'll text
- 17:47Speaker 2: and say, I gotta go get my sweatshirt. It's kind
- 17:49Speaker 2: of chilly here, like he's just rubbing it in.
- 17:53Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty percent less humidity and in the evenings at
- 17:57Speaker 1: sixty two degrees, that's not a bad deal.