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Mark interviews author Ann Coulter. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: The Mark Simon Show on r Well and Culter, the
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  Speaker 1: best selling author, the great columnist. You can make sure
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  Speaker 2: How you doing fantastic? How are you Mark Simone?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. Now. We have a visitor in the studio today.
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  Speaker 1: to you again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good for HERV. I hope this charity isn't run
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  Speaker 1: No, it's a real one. But he has a substack too, right.
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  Speaker 3: I just I started up my blog onto substack a
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  Speaker 3: few months ago. Based on your success, I decided to
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  Speaker 3: do the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh excellent, doesn't substack fun, no no ads, no censorship.
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  Speaker 3: I really like plus people try to help each other.
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  Speaker 3: Like if you don't have a lot of subscriptions, they're like,
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  Speaker 3: well send me your substack and I'll send you mind people.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of it's like a community. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't like that part.
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  Speaker 3: It gets readers. And I had a question for you,
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  Speaker 3: if it's okay. I don't want to take too much time,
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  Speaker 3: but I've been thinking about this. You do say surprising
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  Speaker 3: stuff once in a while that that makes the left
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  Speaker 3: very angry. It makes me think, and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times when I think about it, I'm like, you know
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  Speaker 3: what she was right about that you inferred you. I
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  Speaker 3: think a lot about it. You inferred I think on
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  Speaker 3: the show a few years ago that Joseph McCarthy was
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  Speaker 3: misunderstood and gets a bad rap. And I'm having a
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  Speaker 3: little trouble wrapping my mind around that.
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  Speaker 1: Can you explain that.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I am so glad you asked. More than that.
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  Speaker 2: It is laid out in in I would say, verb
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  Speaker 2: and detail an exciting story in my book Treason. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: it's a good couple of chapters that The argument of
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  Speaker 2: my book Treason is that liberals have consistently rooted for
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  Speaker 2: our country's enemies basically since the McCarthy era, and I
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  Speaker 2: had just you know, my first book was High Crimes
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  Speaker 2: and Misdemeanors about Clinton, and that that was the first
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  Speaker 2: time I really I mean I was a practicing lawyer
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  Speaker 2: before that. That was the first time I really noticed
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  Speaker 2: just the the the mountains of lies that were deployed
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  Speaker 2: to defend Bill Clinton to malign anyone who was opposed
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  Speaker 2: to him, from Lucy Angeldberg to to Ken Starr and
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  Speaker 2: and reading the true history, which is very hard to
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  Speaker 2: get on Joe McCarthy of Joe McCarthy, I realized, Oh
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  Speaker 2: my gosh, it's the same thing, except we didn't have
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  Speaker 2: the internet. It's it's it. Clinton was like the comical
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  Speaker 2: mirror image of what they did to McCarthy he had.
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  Speaker 2: I'll say briefly, but I do recommend that you read
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  Speaker 2: the book, for you'll be amazed at.
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  Speaker 3: The facts of the case.
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  Speaker 2: One thing you will notice, I'll say this quickly, is
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  Speaker 2: that all of the attacks on McCarthy, they're always as
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  Speaker 2: they were on people like Ken Starr and Lucy Anner.
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  Speaker 2: And I suppose me there are all these generalities. He
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  Speaker 2: was a liar, He was a big, fat liar, He
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  Speaker 2: destroyed reputations. But my book has the facts, and you'll
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  Speaker 2: notice their side does tend to not rely heavily on
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  Speaker 2: facts or to repeat the myths that they have created
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  Speaker 2: about him. One of my friends is living in Japan
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  Speaker 2: at the time. A lot of the publishers they published
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  Speaker 2: my book Trees, and he said the publisher came to
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  Speaker 2: him and when he read the book, he said, this
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  Speaker 2: book says the opposite of everything I've ever heard about
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  Speaker 2: Joe McCarthy, every book we've ever published about that period
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  Speaker 2: of history. But I believe hers because she has facts.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Joe McCarthy with the communist stuff, I assumed communists
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  Speaker 1: to be talking about Rusians. Who was looking for Russian
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  Speaker 1: influence in American government? Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 2: Was specifically that was the only thing he was interested
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  Speaker 2: in in our state, our state department. I go through
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  Speaker 2: what the equivalent would have been at the beginning of
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  Speaker 2: the War on Terror in the Bush administration of all
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  Speaker 2: of these active, active agents with the Communist Party just
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  Speaker 2: riddled throughout our government. He was not going around attacking
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  Speaker 2: journalists or actors, not that I mean Ronald Reagan took
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  Speaker 2: on the communists in in in Hollywood. It was a
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  Speaker 2: big problem that they were influencing movies and popular culture.
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  Speaker 2: But that wasn't That wasn't McCarthy's thing. His was, we
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  Speaker 2: have and FDR knew it. We have known members of
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  Speaker 2: the Communist Party working in our government and undermining having
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  Speaker 2: enormous influence on our foreign policy. Now, what was crucial
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  Speaker 2: about when I published Treason is the Venona Papers had
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  Speaker 2: had been released thanks to the work of Daniel Patrick moynihan.
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  Speaker 2: This whole time during the fifties. We couldn't release it
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  Speaker 2: because we didn't want them to know, so the public
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  Speaker 2: never knew. We had figured out how to read Soviet cable.
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  Speaker 2: Some small outfit within I think it was within the military,
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  Speaker 2: and they yeah, and it was called the Venona Project,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it was within the military. They were
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  Speaker 2: reading all of these Soviet transcripts. Only a small percentage
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  Speaker 2: of them, like ten percent have been decrypted at this point,
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  Speaker 2: and basically everything everything we McCarthy was saying, it was,
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  Speaker 2: it was so much worse. We know, for example, that
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  Speaker 2: the Rosenbergs that were communists. His his code.
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  Speaker 1: Name was Liberal. But the myth was created that it
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  Speaker 1: was just some poor guy who as a college kid
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  Speaker 1: went to one meeting and he didn't know what it was,
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  Speaker 1: and now his whole life is ruined, right, right, And.
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  Speaker 2: That was certainly not the case. No, And you could
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  Speaker 2: see it in their policy making decisions. I mean the
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  Speaker 2: biggest one was, oh, I can't even think of the
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  Speaker 2: one that that's elder Hiss. Elder Hiss. He was the
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  Speaker 2: most damaging to our foreign policy statu at Roosevelt's right hand,
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  Speaker 2: and he was. I mean they were all, you know,
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  Speaker 2: these very elite Harvard educated three name wasps and oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some of our children will grow up and
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  Speaker 2: be musicians, some will be communists. It was just it
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  Speaker 2: was just sort of accepted by our elites.
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  Speaker 1: So we had this problem with the alger Hisses around.
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  Speaker 1: But didn't McCarthy once the camera showed up, go a
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  Speaker 1: little crazy and go too far, too many people, too
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  Speaker 1: much grandstanding.
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  Speaker 2: No, Actually that that is well for one thing. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: look at Trump. Sometimes you do need to be He
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  Speaker 2: was very McCarthy was funny, he was boisterous, He was charismatic.
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  Speaker 2: He had that Irish charm. Charismatic McCarthy is he got oh,
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  Speaker 2: he got America's attention. I'll mention by the way, you
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  Speaker 2: know these they try to bury this. But the Kennedy
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  Speaker 2: family loved McCarthy, wanted McCarthy to marry the father Joseph
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  Speaker 2: McCarthy wanted his daughter to marry Joe McCarthy. Bob Robert
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy worked for McCarthy. He onlys aside because Roy Cone
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  Speaker 2: was was was very, very very smart. McCarthy knew it,
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  Speaker 2: so macarthy. So Cone was definitely the top of the
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  Speaker 2: heap on that committee. But you know, when I interviewed
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  Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy Junior on my sub stack, I started off,
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of joking about it. I said, because
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's always talking about I don't know measles, vaccines,
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  Speaker 2: all this other stuff. And I said, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: was saying, he was doing this entire subsect just asking
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  Speaker 2: you about Joe McCarthy. And he must have been I
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  Speaker 2: had just mentioned as a joke. But the first like
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  Speaker 2: twenty minutes, well ten minutes, let's say, is him talking
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  Speaker 2: about McCarthy coming and hanging out with the family. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: they were so close.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. So is this still up on substack?
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  Speaker 2: Yes it is.
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  Speaker 1: And what's the book you wrote that deals with McCarthy treason, treason.
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  Speaker 2: Well, now it's all footnoted. And by the way, that
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  Speaker 2: was my third book written I think around two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and three, two thousand and four. Now, I love all
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  Speaker 2: of my books, but this is this was all sprung
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  Speaker 2: on me, so I'm doing it for memory here. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure if I was as smooth and just describing
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  Speaker 2: it as I hope I was when I was promoting
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  Speaker 2: the book.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have the book, and now I got to
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  Speaker 1: go back and read the McCarthy stuff. Sounds fascinating. So hey,
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  Speaker 1: we only got a thirty.
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  Speaker 2: Eight ye is it's really interesting and it's nice to
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  Speaker 2: talk to you.
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  Speaker 3: Or thank you very much, Ann, thanks for the answer.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, we only got like thirty seconds here. Hey, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you go to the Epstein files, you know what
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  Speaker 1: name comes up the most in the Epstein Harvard? Harvard.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's funny you say that. I almost made
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  Speaker 2: that last put that in last week's column. I wrote
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  Speaker 2: about other things, but I had a few points I
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  Speaker 2: was going to make about the files, and one was
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  Speaker 2: I was just randomly searching names to see how many
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  Speaker 2: names came up more often than Trump's. Though, you know
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  Speaker 2: you need an asterisk with that as you know, the
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  Speaker 2: mentions of Trump that the media is going so crazy over.
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  Speaker 2: It's all the mentions are Jeffrey Epstein denouncing Trump. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like Trump emailing with him or saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: when gonna come to the aunt Wind can we see
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  Speaker 2: the girls again? It's nothing from Trump. It's that this
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  Speaker 2: pedophile hated him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were bitter enemies for like twenty years in
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  Speaker 1: that file. So hey, we're out of time, But everybody
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  Speaker 1: get to book Treason by and Culter. Read that stuff
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  Speaker 1: and go to Twitter. It's great a tweeting, and make
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  Speaker 1: sure you follow her on substack. It's and Culter dot
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  Speaker 1: substack dot com and Culter dot substack dot com and
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  Speaker 1: Culter thanks for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: Good to talk to you and good to talk to you.
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  Speaker 1: RVO, thank you and thanks ay bye bye, and no
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