Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Team Based Care, APP Growth, and AI Innovation at Stanford Health Care with Clair Kuriakose
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- 0:00This is Laura Dirda with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:02podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:04Claire Koryakos,
- 0:05vice president and chief advanced practice officer at
- 0:08Stanford Healthcare. Claire, it's a pleasure to have
- 0:10you on the podcast today. Thank you, Laura.
- 0:12It's really great to be here. Absolutely. Now
- 0:14I'm excited for our conversation because
- 0:16I know it's just such a fascinating time
- 0:19in health care today and truly to dig
- 0:20into, the advanced practice space is going to
- 0:23be an incredible opportunity to share your perspective,
- 0:25with our broader audience as well as some
- 0:26of the really cool things you're doing at
- 0:28Stanford HealthCare. So I'm excited to dig in.
- 0:30But before we do, can you tell us
- 0:32a little bit more about yourself and Stanford?
- 0:35Yeah. Absolutely.
- 0:36So as you mentioned, my name is Claire
- 0:38Kriakos.
- 0:39I am the vice president and chief advanced
- 0:41practice officer at Stanford HealthCare.
- 0:44And Stanford is a premier academic medical center
- 0:47here in the San Francisco Bay Area.
- 0:50We have a veterinary hospital as well as
- 0:52a community hospital in a very large
- 0:55ambulatory
- 0:56footprint all over the Bay Area.
- 0:59I've been now at Stanford for close to
- 1:01twelve years, and the role that I'm in
- 1:04today is actually an inaugural role within our
- 1:07organization.
- 1:08And it really stemmed from this large growth
- 1:11or,
- 1:12yeah, this quick rapid growth of APPs within
- 1:15our organization and
- 1:17really understanding the value that APPs have from
- 1:20a strategic standpoint
- 1:22in how we deliver care for our patients.
- 1:24It's been really exciting. The scope of my
- 1:26role is really the professional practice and the
- 1:29workforce strategy
- 1:31for advanced practice providers, which is a term
- 1:33that we use for nurse practitioners,
- 1:36physician associates, clinical nurse specialists,
- 1:38as well as certified registered nurse anesthetist.
- 1:41But we have a close 2,000 APPs in
- 1:44our organization. So it's been
- 1:46really fun and a great way to really,
- 1:49delineate what the role can do for our
- 1:51organization and mostly for our patients.
- 1:54Absolutely. I think that's fascinating, especially
- 1:57considering I know, APPs have had a continuing
- 1:59to elevated role, within the health care system
- 2:03and journey that patients go on. And so,
- 2:05it's amazing to see that, you know, you
- 2:08being in this position with Stanford,
- 2:11how they're looking at this and taking it
- 2:12seriously.
- 2:13Now when you think about the last year,
- 2:15what is one of the most important initiatives
- 2:17that you led? What did you do, and
- 2:18what were the results?
- 2:20Yeah. I think I love that question because
- 2:22as we think about kind of this evolution
- 2:24of advanced practice, one of the things that
- 2:27I am really proud of within our organization
- 2:30is our intentionality
- 2:31and emphasis
- 2:33on team based care.
- 2:35Stanford Health Care, these past couple of years,
- 2:37have been really thoughtful about what does that
- 2:39mean and how can team based care bring
- 2:42value to our patients. You know, there's really
- 2:45evolving demands
- 2:46from our patients. Access is a challenge, efficiency,
- 2:50patient experience. And as we focus on those
- 2:53things, we as an organization have been really
- 2:55intentional about what team based care and what
- 2:58is the right care model
- 3:00for our patients.
- 3:01And we've developed
- 3:03different structures, MGTs,
- 3:06around care models, and that has really helped
- 3:08us to think about how do we leverage
- 3:11each team member within a care team so
- 3:14we can meet all those needs for our
- 3:16patients, improving access.
- 3:18And just this past year, this is actually
- 3:20continued work that we're we're gonna be continuing
- 3:23to focus on over the next couple of
- 3:24years. But
- 3:25in just the just this past year, we've
- 3:28been able to see an improvement
- 3:30of seventeen percent in our ambulatory
- 3:33APP visits. And this really goes to show
- 3:36the collaboration
- 3:37and partnership with our physicians, our nurses, our
- 3:40APPs, the operations team
- 3:43to really work together
- 3:45to best improve better improve the care that
- 3:48we're giving our patients.
- 3:50I love that. I I think it's so
- 3:52critical to have that type of collaboration and
- 3:54be able to think differently about how,
- 3:57each member of the care team is contributing
- 3:59and what will have the biggest impact on
- 4:02outcomes and improvements in the last year. And
- 4:04so, that's really amazing to see. And as
- 4:06you're going through this process, you know, having
- 4:09that improved 70%,
- 4:10in the APP visits, is there anything you
- 4:13had to adjust about,
- 4:14you know, the the team or workforce expectations
- 4:17or anything else, to kind of go along
- 4:19with this transformation and make sure that, you
- 4:21know, your team was able to meet that
- 4:23capacity and continue to provide a great experience
- 4:26for patients?
- 4:27Yeah. Absolutely. It's obviously a heavy lift and
- 4:29takes,
- 4:31collaboration and partnership with so many leaders and
- 4:34frontline clinicians. And it was really about education
- 4:38around the role, around competencies,
- 4:41and working together,
- 4:42not just internally, but also communicating to our
- 4:45patients and having role delineation,
- 4:48expectation management on when they're gonna be seeing
- 4:51an advanced practice provider and when will they
- 4:53see a physician. So it really takes a
- 4:56lot of thought and intention. And if we
- 4:58do it collaboratively,
- 4:59it can be tremendously
- 5:01successful and have better access and outcomes for
- 5:04our patients.
- 5:06Got it. That's so helpful to know and,
- 5:08you know, a great insight, in terms of
- 5:10how you're building the program there and continue
- 5:12to,
- 5:13elevate patient care. Now looking ahead for 2026,
- 5:17what are some of the big priorities and
- 5:18headwinds that you're focused on?
- 5:20Yeah. You know, I I think 2026
- 5:22is going to be a very interesting year.
- 5:25And I think we have the opportunity to
- 5:26really reimagine
- 5:28how care is delivered by, again, some of
- 5:30this care model work, thinking about every single
- 5:32team member and how we can do that,
- 5:35especially with some of the financial headwinds that
- 5:38we're seeing, the reimbursement
- 5:39changes.
- 5:40I think it will allow us to really,
- 5:44be innovative and creative
- 5:46and really reimagine
- 5:48how we deliver care, and I think that's
- 5:50exciting.
- 5:51And as my goal is that we do
- 5:53this while keeping the patient at the center
- 5:55of all of these efforts and making sure
- 5:58we're still we're we are providing the best
- 6:01highly
- 6:02high quality care for our patients.
- 6:05That makes a lot of sense. And, you
- 6:06know, you touched on a little bit, but
- 6:09I know financial
- 6:10challenges are,
- 6:12a breast for almost every health system in
- 6:14the hospital across the country. And thinking through,
- 6:16you know, how, you can be innovative and
- 6:19be creative and, tap into the potential for
- 6:22so many of your different team members in
- 6:25in a variety of ways. What are you
- 6:27doing at Stanford? And when you're working with
- 6:28your,
- 6:29your leadership team as well as the those
- 6:31on the front lines, how do you make
- 6:33sure you're unlocking
- 6:34all of that potential and creativity
- 6:36in in really,
- 6:38putting forward, you know, what health care is
- 6:40gonna transform into over the next several years?
- 6:43Yeah. You know, that's a really great question.
- 6:44I think, really, as health care leaders, it's
- 6:47having that innovative
- 6:49mindset.
- 6:50One powerful tool that we utilize at Stanford
- 6:53Health Care is our shared leadership structure. And
- 6:57it would be no surprise to you, but
- 6:58the folks who have the best ideas are
- 7:01actually our frontline
- 7:03clinicians and staff. And so we utilize our
- 7:06nursing shared leadership, our APP shared leadership structure,
- 7:10really to make sure the voice of our
- 7:12frontline clinicians are heard, and they are involved
- 7:16in creating
- 7:17the innovative,
- 7:18solutions
- 7:19to help solve for the problems that we're
- 7:21facing
- 7:22and leveraging them on different task forces and
- 7:25committees,
- 7:26thinking about AI and how that will help
- 7:28transform and help improve the care that they're
- 7:31delivering. But I the ultimate
- 7:33resource or,
- 7:35the expert is really the clinicians, the frontline
- 7:38team. And so we do spend a lot
- 7:41of time and energy making sure that the
- 7:44their voices are heard and part of this
- 7:47problem solving.
- 7:49Absolutely. I love that. And and it's just,
- 7:51you know, a a great kind of approach
- 7:53to having those voices from the front lines
- 7:56bubble up and and be front and center
- 7:58in the transformation process.
- 8:00Now what do you think the hardest thing
- 8:01you'll have to do in the coming year
- 8:02will be?
- 8:04So, you know, I'm I'm I'm sure we're
- 8:06not different from other AMCs in this, but
- 8:09one of the
- 8:10biggest challenges that we have right now is
- 8:12really the through our capacity demands and the
- 8:15strain that we have and,
- 8:16whether it is through our ED volume and
- 8:19our surgical volume. There's this tremendous demand for
- 8:22inpatient
- 8:23beds. And so as an organization,
- 8:26we are working hard on looking at being
- 8:29more efficient, enhancing our throughput,
- 8:32decreasing our length of stay as appropriate,
- 8:35looking at how we can,
- 8:37discharge patients more efficiently and effectively.
- 8:40So this is a key priority for us
- 8:42and a really hard problem to solve overnight
- 8:44as you can imagine.
- 8:46And our goal is to make sure that
- 8:48the patients get the care
- 8:50they need in the right place. And one
- 8:53major initiative that we launched just a couple
- 8:55of months ago is Stanford Health Care at
- 8:57Home.
- 8:58This is a program,
- 9:00an APP led,
- 9:02virtual visits for patients where we are able
- 9:05to provide care at the comfort of their
- 9:07own homes. And this these are services that
- 9:10we typically have provided
- 9:13while they were inpatient. And this this program
- 9:16has been immensely successful in really
- 9:19creating capacity, but also from a patient satisfaction
- 9:22stand and getting them to their,
- 9:24families and friends sooner, and it's also helped
- 9:27us create capacity for our organization.
- 9:30So I think this year, we'll continue
- 9:32to double down on efforts like this, thinking
- 9:36about how as a team we can collaborate,
- 9:38again, leveraging every single clinical team member to
- 9:41think about how we can be more efficient,
- 9:45to best take care of our patients and
- 9:46create efficient throughput and capacity.
- 9:50That makes a ton of sense. And, you
- 9:52know, it is really cool to hear how
- 9:54you're tackling some of those capacity issues because
- 9:56you're right. I mean, you know, AMC's plus
- 9:58community hospitals and and more have really experienced
- 10:01a huge influx of patients and trying to
- 10:03figure out how to,
- 10:05manage all of that is just going to
- 10:08continue to be a struggle, it seems like,
- 10:10over the next several years. And so the
- 10:12idea of bringing more of that, Stanford Healthcare
- 10:14at home and those APP led virtual visits,
- 10:17I can imagine, are critical not only to
- 10:19expanding access, but also, you know, doing that
- 10:22in a,
- 10:23efficient and cost effective way.
- 10:25Exactly. And I think one thing that folks,
- 10:28well, most people are starting to realize, right,
- 10:30when we focus on inpatient, it quickly translates
- 10:32over to outpatient as well. And, you know,
- 10:34what can we do even in the ambulatory
- 10:37setting
- 10:37to limit unnecessary ED visits? Right? So we
- 10:40are focusing on readmissions and same day clinics
- 10:44to make sure that our patients get the
- 10:46right type of care that they need in
- 10:47the right setting. And so focusing on these
- 10:50ambulatory clinics along with the inpatient efficiency metrics
- 10:54have been really helpful.
- 10:57Absolutely. Absolutely. That is amazing to hear. Now,
- 11:01before we wrap up, I wanted to ask
- 11:02about growth too. Where are you seeing some
- 11:04of the best, opportunities for organizational growth?
- 11:08You know, I I think we alluded to
- 11:09this a little bit earlier, but, really, from
- 11:12a health care perspective, I think the transformation
- 11:14or how AI is really gonna continue
- 11:18transforming health care is one of the key
- 11:19opportunities
- 11:20that we have. I am incredibly
- 11:23impressed by Stanford Health Care and the position
- 11:26that we have taken
- 11:27in really building a governance structure and ethical
- 11:30frameworks around
- 11:32AI integration in health care. I think that
- 11:34is a fundamental piece that as clinicians, we
- 11:37wanna make sure is occurring and,
- 11:40making sure that patients are really the center
- 11:43of AI integration, and clinical safety remains the
- 11:46the highest priority.
- 11:48And with that type of framework and governance
- 11:50structure, there's so much that we can do.
- 11:52The opportunities are really endless.
- 11:55We recently launched an AI scribe,
- 11:58both in our ambulatory setting, and we're about
- 12:00to launch it in our inpatient setting. And
- 12:02just from some of the early data shows
- 12:05some efficiency gained for our clinicians, but also
- 12:08also just a decrease in cognitive load
- 12:11in relation to clinical documentation. So there's just
- 12:14so many different innovative AI models and that
- 12:17I believe that we can integrate into health
- 12:19care today, but it requires
- 12:22a appropriate clinically appropriate governance structure, and I
- 12:25am so incredibly proud
- 12:27of how we do that here at Stanford.
- 12:30That's amazing. Claire, thank you so much for
- 12:32joining us on the podcast today. This has
- 12:34been such a fascinating conversation. I'm inspired by
- 12:37all the work that you're doing at Stanford
- 12:38HealthCare.
- 12:39You know, we look forward to continuing the
- 12:41conversation in the future.
- 12:43I know that you'll be speaking at our
- 12:45annual meeting, and so I'll be excited to
- 12:46see you then and really be able to
- 12:48catch up. Thank you, Laura. I really appreciate
- 12:51your time and the opportunity.