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3 ABs, 3HRs: Did Joshua Báez have the greatest debut in MLB history? · Cardinal Territory: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Jim Hayes with Kyle Gibson, who is with his family
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: and his wife is driving, So we will title this
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: episode driving Miss Kylie. Is that a good one? Kyle?
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Is that okay?
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: That'll work? That'll work. We got we got a big
• 0:27
  Speaker 2: tent scenario going back here, so that you know they're
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: they want their privacy while we're driving. So we've already
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: had our lunch, So delaying the recording here allowed us
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: to have our lunch, and we'll just see how many
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: car arguments we have in the middle of this episode.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: So if my camera goes black and I'm muted all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden, that's.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: Why I like it. Well, I appreciate you've been with us.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Car's playing two in Sinci today and now won four
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: straight series ever since the trade deadline, two games over
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: five hundred. I gotta say, though, who was it? One
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: of the card The relievers said that they sense it was.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: Stanett said they sense before the deadline that the team,
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: because there's so many young guys that hadn't been through this,
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: might have been a little distracted by it. And he
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  Speaker 1: said he felt the energy return once they got through
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: the deadline, and a couple of guys were like, that's
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: not true, that's not true, but they are playing better
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: baseball since the deadline. Do you think there could be
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: anything to that, Kyle.
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  Speaker 2: Gibson, I think there can be something to it, whether
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  Speaker 2: it is you know, full on distracted or even if
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: it is waiting to see what the plan is gonna be,
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: and then you at least have a clear vision going
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  Speaker 2: forward of who's on the team, who's not on the team,
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  Speaker 2: and there's no waiting to see what happens, all right,
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  Speaker 2: So that can really kind of help out as well.
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  Speaker 2: Now why other guys on a minute, nobody wants to
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  Speaker 2: admit that, you know, outside factors have the ability to
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  Speaker 2: distract you and take your attention away. But I think
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  Speaker 2: knowing the direction of the team for the next two
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: months can be a really helpful thing to kind of
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  Speaker 2: clear heads and let them know what directions they're I liked.
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  Speaker 1: Her and they did. Add Joshua Bias. Finally, and his
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  Speaker 1: very first major league game, not one, not two, three homers.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't just carve out a little piece of history, right,
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  Speaker 1: He took a stone, a tablet, and he chiseled out
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  Speaker 1: a whole chapter in baseball history. We're waiting to see
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  Speaker 1: this guy. He was a monster at Triple A, thirty
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  Speaker 1: plus homers. He comes up. Every Cardinal fan wants to
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: see what this guy is and kab boom. Just your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I understand that Cardinals fans, you know,
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  Speaker 2: probably wanted him there out of spring training. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I think we heard some talk about why as bias
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  Speaker 2: not up here. I think the other thing that probably
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  Speaker 2: slowed him up a little bit was new Bar played
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  Speaker 2: a very good defensive outfield, and he also hit the
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: ball pretty well when he was back in the lineup
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  Speaker 2: from his injury. So I think you had to give
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  Speaker 2: Newt a chance to play, and to give him a
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  Speaker 2: chance to show that he's healthy and show what he
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  Speaker 2: can do. And then once you got to August first,
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: you know, every player has a number of games and
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  Speaker 2: at bats that takes away rookie status and you know,
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  Speaker 2: and ads not only service time, but just other factors
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  Speaker 2: to it. Once you get to August first, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like waiting the first seventeen days of the season
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  Speaker 2: to make sure a guy is a Super two instead
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  Speaker 2: of getting a full year of service, so everybody knew
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  Speaker 2: I think probably July fifteenth through July first, that he
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  Speaker 2: was ready to come up. He had twenty five homers
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  Speaker 2: at the time, so I don't think there's a question there.
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  Speaker 2: Timing of this ended up being just what the offense needed,
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  Speaker 2: being a little shot in the arm going into Chicago
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  Speaker 2: and then went three out of four and now they're
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  Speaker 2: going to another hitter's ballpark. And Kyle Schwarber always used
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  Speaker 2: to say, make sure you don't leave Cincinnati without a homer.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see a Bias can get one or two
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  Speaker 2: while he's there too.
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  Speaker 1: He hit a fastball, a change up, and a slider.
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  Speaker 1: Now the I think the book on him is he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna see all breaking pitches. Well, guess what, he hit
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  Speaker 1: some of those right. And look the next day he
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  Speaker 1: took an o for I get that. But to have
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  Speaker 1: that kind of pressure, those kind of expectations and then
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  Speaker 1: to deliver in the way he did, really impress.
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  Speaker 2: It very impressive. You know, anytime you do something that's
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  Speaker 2: never been done in the game, I think that's pretty crazy,
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  Speaker 2: and when it's on your first day in the game,
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  Speaker 2: even more oppressive and even crazier. So I think that
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  Speaker 2: is definitely a cool stat as well or a cool
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  Speaker 2: fun fact that he did it on three different pitches.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's something that he is going to have
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  Speaker 2: to really pay attention to how guys are pitching him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know much about him. He could be a
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  Speaker 2: very The Cardinals could be developing more cerebral hitters that
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: have a really good idea of the plan and a
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  Speaker 2: really good idea of not only their strengths, but preparing
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  Speaker 2: them for pitchers. And if that's the case, then we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see more young guys come up ready to
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  Speaker 2: hit and ready to make those adjustments.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's an emotional side to every kid's first
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  Speaker 1: crack at the big leagues. But for Bias, you know,
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  Speaker 1: close with his pop. He promised his pop before his
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  Speaker 1: dad died, I will get to the big leagues for you.
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  Speaker 1: He had thirty family members on the field with him.
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  Speaker 1: Would you see stuff like that? It makes you love
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  Speaker 1: baseball even more because there are so many stories about
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: overcoming obstacles and getting to where you worked your entire
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  Speaker 1: life to get to where you wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't realize he had thirty people there. That's
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  Speaker 2: really that's pretty special. I was really fortunate in twenty thirteen,
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  Speaker 2: the team gave me They called me up four days
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  Speaker 2: before my start, so I knew I was starting in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: I knew when it was going to be and I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, I'd have to go back and think about
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  Speaker 2: how many people were there. But it was really cool
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  Speaker 2: because a lot of people were able to make that
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  Speaker 2: drive from Indiana or Saint Louis, and I had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of friends and family there, and it was more
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  Speaker 2: than I even realized. I was able to say hello
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  Speaker 2: to high school teammates when I was walking out to
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  Speaker 2: pitch right. So for Bias to have that many people there,
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  Speaker 2: it seems like maybe the Cardinals gave him a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of heads up. Maybe he had, you know, a
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  Speaker 2: day or two to to kind of prepare for that.
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  Speaker 2: But that makes it even more special to have that
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  Speaker 2: many people there watching you do something for the first
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  Speaker 2: time and do it with so much success. Adding to
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that you know, his dad's no longer with him,
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I thought it was a pretty cool story
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  Speaker 2: that he started talking about, you know, the almost the
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  Speaker 2: whole game. He had this bee that wasn't leaving him alone. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and you know it kind of it just reminded him
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: constantly that, you know what, even though Dad's not here, Uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's just a reminder that he's watching and
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  Speaker 2: he's with him in spirits. So a really cool part
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  Speaker 2: to that story, and I'm pretty happy for Kim.
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  Speaker 1: It's really cool. Right. Let's say you're a veteran pitcher
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  Speaker 1: and you're facing a young player making his big league debut,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that this guy is a home run hitter.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to be part of that story. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want to be part of history. How how do
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  Speaker 1: you attack a young hitter like that, knowing the tools
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  Speaker 1: that he has.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really trying. I'm trying to rack my brain when
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  Speaker 2: I saw you know what we were gonna talk about today.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember. If I can't off anybody's first home run.
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  Speaker 2: I know I give up a couple of first tits.
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  Speaker 2: I think I might have given up Dancy Swanson first hit.
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  Speaker 2: So I was a part of that a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're facing hitters for the first time, I
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: think the advantage does go to the picture because at
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  Speaker 2: least we can see some video on how they swing.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: In the minor leagues, and you can tell a lot
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  Speaker 2: from a guy how he swings at certain pitches, maybe
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  Speaker 2: how you want to attack the hitter with your strengths,
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  Speaker 2: and when it's somebody that has, you know, the notable
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: power that bias has, you're you know, I know I
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: heard Boyd talk about how you know he's gonna attack hitters.
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  Speaker 2: You know, no matter what, you're still trying to find
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  Speaker 2: those areas where he doesn't have the sluck. You're still
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  Speaker 2: still trying to make sure you can avoid those parts
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  Speaker 2: of the swing. So but at the end of the day,
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: when when you go back and forth and you're coming
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  Speaker 2: up with a plan your playing, it's still your strengths
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  Speaker 2: and then you kind of see off of a couple
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  Speaker 2: of swings against your stuff what you can do from there.
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  Speaker 1: So the Cardinals in Cincinnati, they are at Great American Ballpark,
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: which is a band box balls tend to fly out
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: of there. Hopefully the Cardinals can pick up a bunch
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: of wins because the Reds have a terrible, terrible bullpen,
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: so hopefully they can get into the Reds bullpen. But
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Kyle gives them. When you're pitching in a place maybe
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: it's rigly with the wins going crazy, you don't know,
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: or a place like Cincy where balls fly, do you
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: change your approach or do you have to stick to
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: what got you to the big leagues and gave you success.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was fortunate ta able to to be able
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: to stick to my approach for the most part. You know,
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: I lived at the bottom of the zone and and
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: you know, really for the most part, try to keep
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: did an okay job for the most part my career,
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: keeping the ball in the ballpark. So that's that was
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: kind of the goal is one. You don't want to
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: give away free passes in Cincinnati because there are gonna
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: be home runs hit, you know, unless both teams go
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: cold or the pitchers just lights out, So you don't
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: wanna you don't want to give away free passes and
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: make the solo a two run homer. And I think
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: it's it's just a little bit more important to find
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: for me was where is this guy's exit velo hotspots?
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Where where can I get the ground balls? Where does he,
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: you know, really struggle to hit the ball hard, And
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: then I can kind of attack those spots and and
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: take away some of the chances where he gets the
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: barrel to it in a one arm flick out the
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: right field. So it's it's uh. I enjoy pitching there though,
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: about an hour and forty five minutes from my hometown,
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: so I always had friends and family there, and I
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: had a couple of decent starts there. So but I
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: got betten by the Grand American Ballpark hober every now,
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: and I know.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: It's rough, all right. So I want to ask you
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: about the Cardinals starting rotation because they'll be put up
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: against it in Cincinnata. Every picture is and that's been
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: really good. And if you look at what the Cardinals
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: are doing, yeah, they've had offensive explosions. Bias was great,
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: Walker and Burley are on a binge, no question about it.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: But Dobbins was solid the other day. Lady has given
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: up more than two runs and nine straight starts. Polante
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: has become a legitimate front of the rotation guy Magrievous
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: holding up well despite the innings starting to pile up
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: for him. How good has this rotation been and does
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: it make you think, well, going forward, the Cardinals are
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: developing in house what they need to get him to
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: the next level.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely encouraging. It's encouraging that
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: it's quite a few young guys that are going to
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: be there for the next few years as well. And
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: it's not just guys who are in you know, five
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: six years of team control and and now they're gonna
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: be free agents. So that's exciting. In the month of August,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: or excuse me, the month of July, I think it
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: was in the minor leagues, he went six or seven
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: innies in all four starts and didn't give up more
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: than two runs. So, and he was doing it with
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: swinging miss and not very many hits. So I think,
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: you know, he's throwing the ball really well, and he
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: has to be feeling good about his stuff. So I
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: think it's a good time for him to come in
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: the rotation, you know, in Cincinnati. If he can use
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: that swinging miss stuff and you know, limit walks, I
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  Speaker 2: think he'll have hopefully a good outing today against this
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: left handed lineup as well. I know they've got some
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: switch hitters too, but you know, I just think it
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  Speaker 2: hopefully matches up well for him in the starting rotation.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: In this series, Quinn looked good and is you know,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: one major league out and and if you look at
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: his numbers in the minors, like you said, he's coming
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: on the walks seem to be still something that he's
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: gonna battle, right, And I don't know as a as
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: a guy who's going already's building a resume as a
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: professional baseball player, I know how you how you do that?
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: How do you fix a guy who because obviously he's
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: got swing of his stuff, so he's probably going for chases,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: but how do you how do you try to limit that? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: I think the last three teams I was with the Cardinals,
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: you know, fitting in this group, throwing strike one was
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: just a premium and and it was I know that
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: sounds very elementary, but it's it's to the point where
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: they're like, guys, we are seventeenth in first pitch strikes
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: over the last two weeks. We have to be better,
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: right it is? We want to be top five in
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  Speaker 2: first pitch strikes and that's gonna lead to being top
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: five in the least amount of walks, right, So I
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: think it will just be some conversations with Dusty and
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: as he sees his stuff play in the big leagues,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: and quite frankly, he's gonna see more hitters that have
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: a better approach in the big leagues. And I actually
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: think that helps a young pitcher.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Would you are with the family and you pack up
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the family trucksure for a road trip, what snacks do
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: you get? I'm just curious snacks here.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: Let's see, Well, we stopped we were leaving right at
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: lunch time, so we stopped at a Hancock County favorite
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Frosty Boy. That's what we got. Chicken tenders and burgers
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: for lunch. The snack bag. Snack bags include some apple
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: sauce packs. We got fruits and veggies in the cooler.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Our kids love sweet peppers, so we got sweet pepper slices.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: We got oranges. Yeah, so we got a good little
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: snackback going. But my wife handles. Elizabeth handles all that
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  Speaker 2: she's studying nutrition and fitness in college house her major,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: and she sets the kids up for hopefully some healthy
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  Speaker 2: snacks on the roads.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Here, nice, do me a favor. We're going to head
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  Speaker 1: to our final break. While we're doing that, thank Elizabeth
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the Cardinals plans, you know now
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: going forward, but you might see a guy come up.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I would like to see Nolan Gorman. I don't know
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: about you, uh Blaze. Jordan's done a pretty good job
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: at third, but you get a right he lefty in there.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I would I don't know what benefit there is with
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Gorman and the miners, you know, and he's not he's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: hitting below two hundred. A lot of homers. Bring him up,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: see what he can do. That's what i'd like to see.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: What would you like to see?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that's I think that's a
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: good idea. I think he's some that has a lot
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: of MLB experience as well. His defense at there has
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: been pretty good as well. I still think you want
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: to make decisions obviously for the future in mind, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: it has to be some of defense as well in
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: mine because I think the pitching staff in general a
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: good defense is also helping these guys, So I think
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you don't want to lose that, and I think Gorman
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: can do both of those things for you, and now
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I think you have a really good idea of what
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: his status with the team going forward looks like. You know,
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be somebody that you have to make a
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: decision on here, probably this offseason, because you're gonna need
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: forty man spots and uh, you know, at some point
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: you're gonna hopefully add guys to the major league roster too,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So it could be interesting. But I think I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: him coming up and getting another chance to see if
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the adjustments he's making are helping is important.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Another guy, Victor Scott, the second quietly offensive, numbers a
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: little better at Memphis. I saw he made a great
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: catch at the wall, Robin a home run the other day. Look,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: these are guys I think fans want to see. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: with Gorman, I believe that there's some other team out
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: there in major League Baseball, maybe not at the major
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: league level, we'll be interested with a guy who's got
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a power resume because teams are always looking for that.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I hope it all works out. Kyle. Thank you to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: your wife, Elizabeth and your kids for bearing with us
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: on this. I'm glad to see that you have healthy snacks,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and that's gonna do it for this edition of Cardinal Territory.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: We'll see you for the next edition, and hopefully that
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: one won't suck.