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WK 9- The Bears survive 27-24 against the Buccaneers · Bears Banter Talk Show

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SPEAKER_00: Bears Banner Talk Show by the Chicago Bears fans or the Chicago Bears fans.
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SPEAKER_07: Welcome to Bears Banner Talk.
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SPEAKER_07: We had no intro music, so I was all up today.
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SPEAKER_07: Who you finna call Paris Patrick?
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unknown: First things first was a team in
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SPEAKER_02: Will keep possessions, come to the post game, watch them take some lessons.
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SPEAKER_02: Say what?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't think the people are convinced.
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SPEAKER_02: I say call them, but they tell you how to read a blitz, they can cover two.
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SPEAKER_02: Tell me why they supposed to cover six.
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SPEAKER_02: Every Friday at seven thirty.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I cannot miss.
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SPEAKER_02: Like um Hey yo, yeah, we live for the post.
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SPEAKER_07: Bernard Fank
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unknown: Dr.
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SPEAKER_07: Quinn.
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SPEAKER_05: Hey, we were gonna do it.
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SPEAKER_05: We just came up.
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SPEAKER_05: It was some kind of delay.
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SPEAKER_03: You shot you shot the load too early, dog.
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SPEAKER_03: You shot the load a little too early.
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SPEAKER_08: It said stream is live, so that's why I say I ain't hit no music, I ain't hit no nothing.
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SPEAKER_08: I'm like, hey, what's going on?
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SPEAKER_08: Lower evil.
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SPEAKER_08: Okay.
1:02
SPEAKER_03: You over here throwing interceptions, man.
1:05
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
1:06
SPEAKER_03: You get an interception.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: You get interception.
1:11
SPEAKER_01: Hey, Bucker Bass banned it.
1:15
SPEAKER_05: Oh man, that was an experience.
1:17
SPEAKER_05: That was an experience last night, Jay.
1:19
SPEAKER_05: What that experience was like, man, because it did this was it started out great and then it went into a low in the second quarter.
1:29
SPEAKER_05: In the third quarter, it was like survival.
1:33
SPEAKER_07: Every team, every good team is gonna go through something like this.
1:37
SPEAKER_07: You know, it's just like just to step back real quick, when I talked about the loss to the Packers, you know, we had three home games in a row where we we lost one, we won two, we took care of business, you know, we go on the road, hustle environment with a backup quarterback, and we lose that game.
1:58
SPEAKER_07: We're coming off of last night's game, three primetime games in a row.
2:02
SPEAKER_07: We're talking about a Thursday night, a Monday night, and a Sunday night.
2:08
SPEAKER_07: We're coming off those three primetime games.
2:10
SPEAKER_07: So it was a stretch, you know.
2:12
SPEAKER_07: Everybody was saying if we go two and one, I'd be happy.
2:16
SPEAKER_07: We went three and oh in that stretch, and it all good teams go through games like this.
2:23
SPEAKER_07: And the good thing about it is the game that we went through last night, now we got the bye week to figure it out.
2:29
SPEAKER_07: We need to get some people healthy.
2:32
SPEAKER_07: Uh so I mean, we we came out with a win.
2:36
SPEAKER_07: And if as everybody knows, previous Bears teams don't come, don't win games like that.
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SPEAKER_07: So just for us to come out with a win, I'm satisfied.
2:47
SPEAKER_07: I'm satisfied.
2:48
SPEAKER_07: But like I say, bye week, back to the drawing board.
2:50
SPEAKER_07: I'm interested to see what's gonna happen.
2:51
SPEAKER_07: I remember last year, after the bye week, how we got the running game cranked up.
2:57
SPEAKER_07: Uh, you know, we got some injuries, people need to get healthy.
2:59
SPEAKER_07: You know, some people that got knocked out last night, you know.
3:03
SPEAKER_07: I uh I when Kyler Gordon went down, I was like, oh my god, not another salt tissue injury.
3:08
SPEAKER_07: So so so you know, Tyree Stevenson been battling injuries over the last couple of weeks.
3:14
SPEAKER_07: Um, so I I'm just I'm just happy they came out with the win and now they get a chance to sit down and get some rest.
3:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so yeah, you you know, uh, I was surprised yesterday that what's how's the first name pronounced Savon?
3:32
SPEAKER_05: Savon Ahmed.
3:33
SPEAKER_05: Savannah.
3:35
SPEAKER_05: I was surprised he came out with the starting unit.
3:37
SPEAKER_05: I was I was kind of like trying to figure out what was going on.
3:41
SPEAKER_05: I know, I know Swift has to be violent through something because Ahmed actually came out with the first starting unit yesterday, even though he had less carriers carries, so I'm I'm not sure what that was about.
3:55
SPEAKER_07: Uh other than maybe a Ben Johnson, you know, that was a Ben Johnson thing.
3:59
SPEAKER_07: Like a soft benching.
4:00
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, that was a Ben Johnson thing.
4:01
SPEAKER_07: Not really a soft benching, it was a band Johnson thing.
4:04
SPEAKER_07: Like, I'm finna show y'all, I'm gonna show y'all something different.
4:06
SPEAKER_07: Swift ain't gonna come out.
4:08
SPEAKER_07: I think that's what that was.
4:10
SPEAKER_07: I think that's what that was.
4:11
SPEAKER_07: But Swift been Swift been battling, man, because like I said last week, you know, Swift had 27 carries last week, uh in that game versus um uh uh Seattle.
4:23
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you know, yeah.
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SPEAKER_07: So so so you know, he he he he's pretty, and he only had six carries yesterday, I think.
4:29
SPEAKER_07: I think he only had six carries last night.
4:32
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, 12.
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SPEAKER_07: Okay, okay.
4:36
SPEAKER_07: But a lot of people did say in his press conference today that the game plan for this game was pass heavy.
4:44
SPEAKER_07: So I don't know if he's just making that up because it was pass heavy, but uh he did say in his press conference today, like, you know, we knew that this game was gonna be pass, you know, pass heavy.
4:55
SPEAKER_07: Because I was even in the stands, like, okay, when are you gonna start running the football?
4:58
SPEAKER_07: But then once I mean, we Tampa Bay's defense is, I mean, they got a great defense, they got it, they do have a great defense.
5:07
SPEAKER_07: So, you know, you can only run your head up against a brick wall so many times before you just be like, forget it.
5:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
5:17
SPEAKER_03: So this this game here was a game that we actually needed.
5:21
SPEAKER_03: Um, I stated that we needed this game, and we needed this game to go in such a manner.
5:27
SPEAKER_03: I don't care if we win by 100 points, I don't care if we win by five points, I don't care if we win by one point.
5:33
SPEAKER_03: A win is a win.
5:35
SPEAKER_03: Right.
5:36
SPEAKER_03: Throughout this entire year with Caleb at quarterback, we have not been tested at all.
5:41
SPEAKER_03: Coming off of last year with seven comfort behind victories, you know, we haven't been tested.
5:47
SPEAKER_03: So this year was good, especially going into the bye week and being tested and saying, okay, so we've we've had a little adversity.
5:55
SPEAKER_03: We still haven't been trailing, but we still had a little adversity, right?
5:59
SPEAKER_03: And so with this ball game, you know, this is a learning curve and saying, okay, guys, we can we can actually handle a punch.
6:07
SPEAKER_03: Like Mike Tyson said, you know, everybody's tough till they get hit in the mouth.
6:11
SPEAKER_03: So now we withstood the defense, we withstood, you know, the offensive challenge.
6:16
SPEAKER_03: Me and Nuddy talked earlier.
6:17
SPEAKER_03: I've known Bucky Irvin since he was a little kid, and he's been doing that since he was a little kid.
6:24
SPEAKER_03: He he's been doing that since he played for the Hazelcrest Mustangs.
6:28
SPEAKER_03: And so the same thing when he got to high school, all that.
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SPEAKER_03: He's been doing the same thing.
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SPEAKER_03: And the what they said, that boy's good, you know.
6:36
SPEAKER_03: That boy's good.
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SPEAKER_03: He's smooth.
6:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we needed this ball game.
6:42
SPEAKER_03: We needed this ball game to go in such a manner right now.
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SPEAKER_03: We're seven and two.
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SPEAKER_03: That's all that needs to be said.
6:47
SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much.
6:49
SPEAKER_00: So well, uh, I'm going to channel my Todd Bowles channeling Dennis Green.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: They are who we thought they were.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: We gave him, we gave away the game.
7:07
SPEAKER_00: First of all, how do you give away, how do you have five turnovers in one game?
7:13
SPEAKER_00: They give you about a 12 to 15% chance of winning that game.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: The Bears, they actually played a very good team ball game.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: Not that every facet of the of the of the Bears were doing well, but where one part of the team wasn't doing well, another part picked them up.
7:33
SPEAKER_00: Um as far as from special teams, they ended up getting a punt block.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: That's two weekends in a row.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: So something needs to be showing up there.
7:42
SPEAKER_00: As far as the defense, the defense actually stood up and held stout for the most part.
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Um, but at the end of the game, they started wavering a little bit.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: Uh, and offense came in at the last the last uh series.
7:59
SPEAKER_00: So we had a team win.
8:02
SPEAKER_00: It wasn't pretty, but in the NFL, we do not apologize for getting victories.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna take the W.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: Uh hopefully we can use this next couple weeks to rest up a little bit and see if we can come back strong for the for the final uh for the final few games.
8:20
SPEAKER_07: And not to mention, and not to mention playing, you say the defense stood up.
8:23
SPEAKER_07: Tampa Bay was two for twelve on third down.
8:27
SPEAKER_07: Two for twelve.
8:29
SPEAKER_07: And I want to get into a little of the officiating.
8:36
SPEAKER_07: That was horrible, man.
8:39
SPEAKER_07: Doc, you know I gotta ask you.
8:42
SPEAKER_07: On the the kickoff return for a touchdown.
8:46
SPEAKER_07: The Marco Jackson.
8:49
SPEAKER_07: Was that a hold?
8:51
SPEAKER_07: Was that a holding?
8:52
SPEAKER_03: Was that a holding penalty?
8:55
SPEAKER_03: What's up, Paper?
8:56
SPEAKER_03: First of all, you you're asking the wrong guy because my crew don't call holdings.
9:00
SPEAKER_03: We don't we don't call that.
9:02
SPEAKER_03: Uh you know, we we had a game, uh uh state playoff game, and we had we only had one holding call the entire game, and that was on the defensive back.
9:12
SPEAKER_03: It wasn't on it wasn't on nothing else.
9:14
SPEAKER_03: Um, but you got to remember officiating is a part of the game, so you have to fight through that stuff.
9:21
SPEAKER_03: Some of those penalties, some of those penalties are penalties, and you just gotta keep keep playing through those penalties.
9:28
SPEAKER_03: I mean, Tampa Bay had a lot of penalties too.
9:31
SPEAKER_03: They have they have some penalties too, so you you can't really look at it in that nature.
9:36
SPEAKER_03: You just gotta keep playing.
9:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm more concerned about the interceptions than I am the penalties.
9:42
SPEAKER_03: I'm not concerned about the interceptions at all.
9:45
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm just saying about what I'm what I'm talking about is that those are with interceptions for us.
9:53
SPEAKER_03: Our our game is running the ball, controlling the clock, and things of that nature.
9:59
SPEAKER_03: So if we're giving the ball away, we're not taking care of our number one obligation, which is running, you know, having time of possession and keeping the ball.
10:09
SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm concerned about.
10:10
SPEAKER_03: You know, we could have scored a hundred yesterday.
10:13
SPEAKER_07: Because I looked at the clock and looked at the time of possession.
10:16
SPEAKER_07: I'm like, okay, when was the last time we lost the game or or lost in that category as far as time of possession?
10:22
SPEAKER_07: I mean, they dominated, like I said, that third quarter, I swear to God, it seemed like that third quarter took an hour and a half, man.
10:28
SPEAKER_07: I looked up and I was just like, oh my god, we're still in the third quarter.
10:31
SPEAKER_07: What is going on?
10:33
SPEAKER_07: So but uh uh we we lost in a lot of phases yesterday, and like you said, playing to have five turnovers and still be able to win a game.
10:44
SPEAKER_07: I'll take it because we have teams in the past, we don't win those football games, right?
10:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they only uh I believe they only got three points off the uh turnovers.
10:55
SPEAKER_05: Five turnovers, yeah.
10:56
SPEAKER_05: They got three points, yeah.
10:57
SPEAKER_05: They got three points.
10:58
SPEAKER_05: You know, I would uh as far as officiating go, uh I was thinking this a few years ago.
11:04
SPEAKER_05: It happened to in New England.
11:05
SPEAKER_05: Uh, I forget the running back, but this one Tom Brady was playing, and the guy got a helmet and helmet, and he he was kind of knocked out cold, and you can see it, and he fumbled, but they didn't call it the helmet helmet, which was which it was like a straight-on shot.
11:17
SPEAKER_05: Since they changed since they actually review all turnovers, even back then, I was saying the NFL on a turnover, they should be able to look and see if it was a helmet to helmet and maybe over implement that and overrule it because that helmet and helmet, if it caused a turnover, it got knocked out.
11:38
SPEAKER_05: I mean, you obvious is why he fumbled, but you know, that's neither here there.
11:43
SPEAKER_05: I hope uh uh Luther Burton is uh fine in that game.
11:47
SPEAKER_05: The Bears with that game, though, that that first quarter was it was perfection almost, man.
11:53
SPEAKER_05: It was one of those things where you felt like it was gonna be a blowout because of the way they got on there.
12:00
SPEAKER_05: And I I do believe what happened was when they got that penalty by um Xavion Xavion Thomas.
12:09
SPEAKER_05: Yep, yeah.
12:10
SPEAKER_05: From that point on, the Bears offense went totally cold.
12:14
SPEAKER_05: They had an interception on the I believe the next play, uh, because they got bagged up, and from that, it looked like first downs was hard.
12:23
SPEAKER_05: They went punt, maybe interception, punt, you know, punt, interception, punt.
12:29
SPEAKER_05: Uh, but you know what?
12:31
SPEAKER_05: You had to have character to be able to survive that, right?
12:35
SPEAKER_05: Because, like uh quick said, you ain't really been tested, and it's one thing to be tested when you're just losing a game because the team has beaten you, it's another thing to actually feel that everything is going wrong, and it's easy when everything to go wrong just to say, Hey, it's just not my night tonight, and you know, we'll just fight next week.
12:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, uh Nutty, you know, character is one of those things, character doesn't come up during happy times.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: So, in order for you to talk about character, you have to be going through something.
13:08
SPEAKER_00: Um, we all can pretty much explain away every one of Caleb Williams' interceptions yesterday.
13:18
SPEAKER_00: But if you're looking at it from the aggregate, he's got to be smarter than that.
13:22
SPEAKER_00: By the time you you throw that second one, there's no way you should uh be careless enough to throw that third one and then that fourth one.
13:31
SPEAKER_00: So I know he came back at the end of the game and and completed some passes or whatever, but what that said to me, what that spoke to me was a lack of maturity that we've been giving him all the credit for for the last few games.
13:45
SPEAKER_00: We've been saying, hey, he's not doing this showtime stuff, he's throwing it on the target, on schedule, he knows where to look for people.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: All of that doesn't go away in one game.
13:58
SPEAKER_00: So either he's on target, he's on time, and he's gonna try to run an offense that way, or he's gonna be the gunslinger.
14:07
SPEAKER_00: So it I'm I'm not quite sure what to make of that.
14:10
SPEAKER_00: I can definitely say that's just one game, and you know, we can move on from that, but you kind of have to be smarter than that once you get up to the second interception.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh the first one, okay.
14:22
SPEAKER_00: I see that can happen.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: And uh we know that he's not a player that actually makes this mistake, but he's gotta be smart enough in the moment of realizing I've got to do something different.
14:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, Frank, I think those two interceptions that the second one and the third one, uh, that actually is uh, I would agree, has to be based off intelligence.
14:45
SPEAKER_05: Uh, and not saying he's not intelligent because because, but those were not interceptions based off a bad read or a great uh play.
14:55
SPEAKER_05: Let me take that.
14:56
SPEAKER_05: It was a great play by the defensive players.
14:58
SPEAKER_05: Obviously, he was trying to throw those out of bounds.
15:00
SPEAKER_05: Caleb has three interceptions this week.
15:02
SPEAKER_05: Well, that's week this season where he actually was could have chosen thrown it out of bounds.
15:09
SPEAKER_05: Like he had one early in the season, he was right on the sideline.
15:11
SPEAKER_05: He threw it back into the field of play.
15:14
SPEAKER_05: But he obviously were trying to throw it out of bounds.
15:16
SPEAKER_05: Those two defensive backs made great plays.
15:19
SPEAKER_05: That doesn't mean it wasn't a bad decision, but they make some great great one dude toe-tapped it on the sideline.
15:24
SPEAKER_05: You're not gonna have too many D backs that's able to do that.
15:26
SPEAKER_05: The second guy actually went up under a ball that was inches from the ground and caught it.
15:33
SPEAKER_05: That that's them them two guys caught the ball, but that does not give an excuse for him throwing the ball in play.
15:40
SPEAKER_05: But I will say this is what happened Bradbury's playing horrible in that game, it was so much pressure coming up the middle.
15:49
SPEAKER_05: What caused those interceptions were uh pressure up the middle where he could not throw it, he couldn't just throw it away, he had to throw it where somebody was at to not get attentional ground, and so he tried to jump over somebody, jump you know where he could see it and try to throw it, but he couldn't get enough on it.
16:09
SPEAKER_05: Well they're gonna have to tell him in players like that take the sack.
16:13
SPEAKER_05: The sack is the smartest thing to do in that situation because he was still in the pocket.
16:18
SPEAKER_05: There was no other way he would have probably threw that ball based off his vision that he could have threw it in the field of play and not maybe put it in harm's way because he couldn't see the field of play, he just threw it.
16:29
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I think and I think and I hope that this is not a blueprint for a lot of teams, upcoming teams, but the Buccaneers zone blitz caused trouble last night.
16:44
SPEAKER_07: It wasn't just straight up blitz, it was zone blitzing that they were doing last night that confused the hell out of Caleb.
16:53
SPEAKER_07: I I don't know if it confused the hell out of him or they just wasn't ready for it.
16:57
SPEAKER_07: Ben said in his press conference today, like, yeah, we was kind of ready for it, but you didn't look like you was ready for that zone blitz yesterday, and and and it caused problems.
17:08
SPEAKER_07: And I don't know, you know, future games coming up.
17:12
SPEAKER_07: Is that is that gonna be a blueprint for teams that we're gonna play in the upcoming in the upcoming weeks?
17:19
SPEAKER_03: Well, you you gotta have when you run in different defensive schemes, you gotta have guys that can cover.
17:25
SPEAKER_03: Now, they mentioned everybody on Tampa Bay runs a four three in the defensive back season, so that's everybody running a full three that's just as fast as your receivers.
17:34
SPEAKER_03: That's not across the board in the NFL, that's not sustainable in the NFL, right?
17:40
SPEAKER_03: Because after a certain point, they was just running everybody in there, right?
17:44
SPEAKER_03: And so that's why I was like, man, we need to start bubble screening or something, you know, to try to stop the blitz.
17:51
SPEAKER_03: And so a couple of them plays on those interceptions, those guys were 20 yards downfield, and so he couldn't get them the ball.
18:00
SPEAKER_03: You got to start calling plays that are short, like he threw a short slant to commit, uh, not command, but leveling.
18:07
SPEAKER_03: He threw a short slant to uh Lovelin, which was wide open, so you got to start shortening the ball.
18:13
SPEAKER_03: You can't throw the ball 20, 15, 20 yards down the field because you don't have enough time.
18:18
SPEAKER_03: But now you got to start running combo routes and things of that nature to try to throw guys off, maybe some pick routes or whatever to rub routes and things of that nature to get guys open.
18:29
SPEAKER_03: That slows down the blitz because now if we're giving up short yardage pass plays, it's like we can't blitz because we ain't gonna get there.
18:37
SPEAKER_03: Now we gotta start doing something else.
18:39
SPEAKER_03: Now that opens up the run game.
18:41
SPEAKER_03: You gotta start thinking on the other side of okay, if you're doing this, I'm gonna do this to stop the blitz.
18:49
SPEAKER_07: So not being able to run the football show last night in the passing game.
18:57
SPEAKER_07: When you cannot run the football in the NFL, unless you the Green Bay Packers, you just throwing Hail Marys every every second or third play.
19:07
SPEAKER_07: If you can't run the football in the NFL, it dummies down your passing game.
19:12
SPEAKER_07: Like you said, it results to bubble screens and rubs and things like that.
19:18
SPEAKER_07: And that's not sustainable or a successful way to win a game.
19:25
SPEAKER_07: But at the same time, if that's what it is that you need to do, especially without a running game, then that that's what you gotta do.
19:33
SPEAKER_07: But you know, Ben ain't you know, Ben got his chest out, man.
19:37
SPEAKER_07: He he ain't trying to my offense work, yeah.
19:42
SPEAKER_03: But he offense work, he didn't run no trick plays last night either.
19:45
SPEAKER_03: He didn't well, well, well, well, what what with
19:54
SPEAKER_08: With were they trying to were they trying to run a fake part?
19:58
unknown: Yes,
19:58
SPEAKER_03: the thing?
19:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they did.
19:59
SPEAKER_03: But I'm talking about uh from the offensive side.
20:02
SPEAKER_03: They tried to run a fake punt, but uh what uh but where was the but what was you lined up at?
20:09
SPEAKER_08: What what was the what was the line of scrimmage on the fake punt?
20:15
SPEAKER_08: Is this what we doing?
20:16
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, hey, he said the defense was cooking last night.
20:21
SPEAKER_00: I I tell you what, I'm gonna say something else about about those interceptions, then I'm gonna put it to bed, right?
20:28
SPEAKER_00: Anytime you go into the same territory as Jay Cutler, that's a bit of a concern.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: And my problem with Caleb Williams in those interceptions was this actually showed, you know, some people would say he's got Hutzpa.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: Other people would say that's arrogant.
20:47
SPEAKER_00: It's got to be somewhere in the middle of that.
20:49
SPEAKER_00: So at some point, you've got to be able to identify here's this here's the down and distance, here's the situation.
20:57
SPEAKER_00: I can't throw a pick.
20:59
SPEAKER_00: Only difference uh between Jay Cutler uh and and interceptions and Caleb's was Jay Cutler threw them all to the same dude.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: So I think that's right, right, right.
21:10
SPEAKER_05: I say I would disagree because Jay Cutler was throwing to a receiver.
21:17
SPEAKER_05: Caleb was actually he even said in the post conference he was trying to throw the ball out of bounds.
21:22
SPEAKER_05: He actually had picks last year.
21:24
SPEAKER_05: Two of his five seven picks last year were balls that he did something similar, which I'm I'm still saying is an intelligent thing.
21:33
SPEAKER_05: That's different trying to throw the ball out of bounds, and a guy makes an athletic because he's 4-3, he gets over there and he has he has hands like the receiver.
21:43
SPEAKER_05: You're hardly ever gonna see a D back toe type of interception on the sideline.
21:48
SPEAKER_05: That's rare because they usually don't, but I'm not I'm just saying that's different than Jake Culler.
21:52
SPEAKER_05: Tom Brady had six interceptions in the game.
21:57
SPEAKER_05: Uh I was just going to pay Manny.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: Matter of fact, I watched my game on it was Monday night game.
22:04
SPEAKER_05: Hey Manny had so many interceptions in that game.
22:06
SPEAKER_05: I was like, they should just pull him out just to just because it ain't just going right.
22:11
SPEAKER_05: Not that you mentioned him, it just like why let him throw another one, right?
22:16
SPEAKER_05: That's Tom Brady.
22:17
SPEAKER_05: That's Dan Marino had a multi.
22:20
SPEAKER_05: Every quarterback is gonna have a multi in the quarterback.
22:23
SPEAKER_05: That's part of the learning curve.
22:25
SPEAKER_05: See, Jay Cullers, what was different about his was it was a continuation.
22:31
SPEAKER_05: Interception was part of the what defined Jay Cullers' career.
22:35
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it was always present.
22:37
SPEAKER_05: We got a quarterback that had six interceptions his rookie year and seven last year in the regular season.
22:45
SPEAKER_05: So I I'm not saying he won't lead to interception, but Jay Culler never had a season that wasn't not double digits.
22:53
SPEAKER_05: I mean, that's just what he did.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: First of all, Nutty, let's be clear.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: We keep talking about how great those DBs plays were and they toe-tapped or whatever.
23:04
SPEAKER_00: We talking, we got two of our esteemed colleagues that keep trying to play like they were always DBs, always DBs.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: Jay and Quick are both receivers.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: If you throw a pick anywhere around them, they're gonna know how to toe tap, they're gonna catch the ball, they gonna have their hands um the way they supposed to be.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: So Tampa Bay's DBs were just they had a well-constructed team.
23:34
SPEAKER_07: I just think a lot of times, I just think a lot of times, like even the first interception that he threw, and I'm like, was he throwing that out of bounds?
23:42
SPEAKER_07: And and it's one of those things where I'm like, okay, if you're gonna throw it out of bounds, if you already made up your mind that you're throwing this ball away, you gotta throw it to the way.
23:51
SPEAKER_06: The first one was an interval.
23:53
SPEAKER_07: See, those are yeah, but those are the things that I be talking about.
23:56
SPEAKER_07: We're kind of like, okay, don't get cute, don't get cute, right?
24:00
SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
24:01
SPEAKER_07: You throwing it out of bounds, but you still sim not still trying to make a play, but you know what I'm saying?
24:08
SPEAKER_08: Yeah, I was throwing that out of bounds, but I'm still kind of so lovely that he was close to the sideline, and I might be those are the ones that I'm like, okay, you can't do that.
24:19
SPEAKER_07: If you're gonna throw it away, just throw the football away, right?
24:22
SPEAKER_05: Right.
24:22
SPEAKER_05: That's why I say sometimes you gotta just take the sack, right?
24:25
SPEAKER_05: Sometimes you just gotta take the sack.
24:26
SPEAKER_05: It sometimes you you are on the sideline.
24:29
SPEAKER_05: When I say take the sack, sometimes he's on the sideline, he's not gonna get back to the line of scrimmage.
24:35
SPEAKER_05: That's gonna register as a sack, and sometimes he decides to throw it back into the field of play.
24:40
SPEAKER_05: Okay, when he throws it straight down, it it works fine because if the guy don't catch it, it probably bounce off his hand and go out of bounds.
24:47
SPEAKER_05: But if you throw it across your body, that velocity has uh you know a chance of maybe bouncing up.
24:54
SPEAKER_05: But I I I would still say the Bears got fortunate that they didn't do anything.
24:58
SPEAKER_05: But if you look at some of the decision making, too, it was kind of uh Bose kind of made some decision that was kind of a little that he may kick himself today.
25:08
SPEAKER_05: He passed on some field goals in the close game, he went for it uh in a game that was that you know I I didn't understand a couple of his decisions.
25:19
SPEAKER_07: I was just shaking my head.
25:21
SPEAKER_07: I'm like, dude, are you really gonna go are you really gonna go for it right now?
25:27
SPEAKER_07: The NFL has gotten to a point where they using up roster spots for punters because nobody's punting anymore.
25:38
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and and it's and it's like, come on, man, I cannot believe you on your own 30.
25:43
SPEAKER_07: It's fourth and four, and you're gonna go, you're actually not gonna send your punt team on the field.
25:49
SPEAKER_07: And you know, the league has gotten so disciplined because of this run of people not punting, they coming up to the line of scrimmage and they're gonna try to make somebody jump off.
26:00
SPEAKER_07: It's not working because everybody knows that you're not punting the football.
26:06
SPEAKER_07: You know what I'm saying?
26:07
SPEAKER_07: So it's just like you might get one, you might get one.
26:11
SPEAKER_07: You might get one out of every 16 games, you might get one.
26:16
SPEAKER_07: But people know now that people are not punting the football anymore.
26:19
SPEAKER_07: So you running up to the line of streamers trying to draw somebody off sides, it's not working in the it used to work, but it's not working in the NFL no more because people know I'm gonna take the five yards and then I'm gonna punt.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna hope they you know got away with that three times this year already, Jay.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: Listen, there are people out there that know on Tuesday I give out a Rudy Pooh candy ass award.
26:43
SPEAKER_03: There are people that are trying to win it, man.
26:45
SPEAKER_03: So stop it, man.
26:46
SPEAKER_03: You gotta get those people to win the award, man.
26:52
SPEAKER_05: Look, man, they they proud of that moment, man.
26:54
SPEAKER_05: But you know what?
26:55
SPEAKER_05: I'm glad you said that because being proud of award, I want to um play this video right with you, fellas.
27:02
SPEAKER_10: Great job.
27:03
SPEAKER_10: Great job, you know.
27:05
SPEAKER_10: It doesn't feel the same as every other one because we know we didn't play quite as well as we were capable of playing as a team.
27:13
SPEAKER_10: Defense, you did a hell of a job.
27:16
SPEAKER_10: Put some tough situations throughout that game.
27:20
SPEAKER_10: Once again, two for twelve on third now.
27:23
SPEAKER_10: Alright?
27:24
SPEAKER_10: Two for 12 on third down.
27:26
SPEAKER_10: And then offense, I know it's tough sledding throughout that second half.
27:29
SPEAKER_10: Alright?
27:29
SPEAKER_10: That's a good defense we just faced.
27:31
SPEAKER_10: Credit to them.
27:32
SPEAKER_10: However, when we needed it most, at the end of the game, eight plague drive to get in the field goal range, hell of a job.
27:41
SPEAKER_10: I just got one game ball here tonight.
27:43
SPEAKER_10: Alright?
27:44
SPEAKER_10: Man, big time pick six.
27:47
SPEAKER_10: Jalen Johnson.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Got it.
27:59
SPEAKER_10: And that's it, y'all boys.
28:00
SPEAKER_10: Go win.
28:03
SPEAKER_10: And I said it Let's think I'm gonna say it again, guys.
28:06
SPEAKER_10: We're building.
28:07
SPEAKER_10: We're building.
28:08
SPEAKER_10: Our best football is yet to come.
28:10
SPEAKER_10: All right, believe that.
28:12
SPEAKER_10: We're gonna take a nice little break, have a nice little rest over the bye week, but then when we come back, difficulties right now.
28:18
SPEAKER_05: Okay, you can't see the video, Jake.
28:20
SPEAKER_07: No, no, no.
28:21
SPEAKER_07: Did y'all see the video?
28:22
SPEAKER_07: I didn't see it.
28:23
SPEAKER_07: I saw it.
28:23
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
28:24
SPEAKER_07: Okay, I was the only one that didn't see it, and my apologies.
28:27
SPEAKER_07: Okay.
28:27
SPEAKER_07: Now you gotta pay that cricket bill, man.
28:29
SPEAKER_03: That cricket.
28:33
SPEAKER_03: It don't do good.
28:36
SPEAKER_03: It don't support it, right?
28:37
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you better cut it out.
28:39
SPEAKER_07: It don't support it.
28:41
SPEAKER_05: Hey man, shout out to the I had to the good, better, best because I thought the video wasn't sure.
28:48
SPEAKER_05: But anyway, Jay uh Jalen Johnson, uh, that was a crucial pick because uh they didn't get any other touchdowns uh offensively, but watching her run, great, great read on the ball, it definitely looked like it's something wrong because man, he looked like a lineman who get that big boys when they get the picks, man.
29:09
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yeah, he had a piano on his back.
29:12
SPEAKER_00: We saw that, but you know that happened.
29:17
SPEAKER_08: sweat was in front of him and was moving a little bit faster than he was and sweat was a before four he was faster than before anyway.
29:26
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, Chris Burma said he was straight up rumbling and stumbling.
29:30
SPEAKER_07: I I was just hoping he was gonna get to the end zone because when he picked it, I was like, Oh, that's I was like, that's a big six.
29:36
SPEAKER_03: Hey guys, yeah, it was so listen.
29:39
SPEAKER_03: I want to congratulate Jalen Johnson on his interception.
29:44
SPEAKER_03: He got one.
29:45
SPEAKER_03: I've been very critical of Jalen Johnson when the game, when the game is on the line, he got us an interception.
29:52
SPEAKER_03: But if you look at the stat sheet, he doesn't show up anywhere else except for the interception.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: No tackles, huh?
30:00
SPEAKER_00: He got three tackles, too.
30:01
SPEAKER_03: So well, they I didn't see it on the stat sheet.
30:03
SPEAKER_03: I don't I don't know.
30:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
30:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm hoping.
30:07
SPEAKER_03: I'll I'm hoping for him like, yeah, come on, man.
30:09
SPEAKER_03: Let's go.
30:10
SPEAKER_05: Hey, hey, David Broyce made a good point about uh Devin Bush, and I know Quick U was talking about Devin Bush.
30:17
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he was killing it last night.
30:20
SPEAKER_05: He I mean, he was wrecking shop.
30:22
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he was coming through some of those gaps, and he made uh Baker Mayfield life uh a little difficulty, difficult.
30:34
SPEAKER_05: And who else?
30:35
SPEAKER_05: I mean, the whole front four to me had a good game as well.
30:39
SPEAKER_05: But Booker, I just want to acknowledge Booker, and I I wish well, tomorrow we'll talk with in about any trade deadline.
30:46
SPEAKER_05: The way Booker is emerging, I don't even understand why people keep talking about Khalil Mac or anything.
30:52
SPEAKER_05: Booker is your he's coming off the bench and he leads the team in uh sacks, I believe.
30:58
SPEAKER_05: And he's making his present fail.
31:01
SPEAKER_05: Uh, and I mean Jared Grady has got new life with getting uh Simmons on the out there.
31:10
SPEAKER_05: You see uh sweat around the ball a lot.
31:14
SPEAKER_05: The linebackers are able to make clean tackles, and man, and I just love Sammons' pursuit of a ball when the ball gets up the field.
31:22
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he turns and retreat, and he's chasing, he's chasing that guy.
31:27
SPEAKER_05: Like, you know, the bullies chase that cursing home and they chase you all with the door.
31:31
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, Jeffrey Simmons has definitely made this defense better.
31:36
SPEAKER_07: Uh, he makes it clean, and and and Chris, uh I'm glad you finally said that because you've been talking about um you've been talking about Devin Bush all season.
31:46
SPEAKER_07: So I'm I'm I'm glad he happily finally uh played to your satisfaction.
31:51
SPEAKER_03: Here's the thing though, and I said this, I said this when we got Simmons.
31:55
SPEAKER_03: When you're a linebacker and you're playing behind a bad defensive tackle, they can reach you.
32:03
SPEAKER_03: Right, they have to double team and in some plays triple team Jeffrey Simmons, and you're able to run free.
32:11
SPEAKER_03: You don't have to deal with the guard scooping and trying to come up top to try to get you because they know they gotta hold this this dude right here, and so now you're able to run free.
32:21
SPEAKER_03: And if you look at it, most of the time Bush is behind Simmons, right, on the defense, and now he's like, Whew, I can go play that.
32:32
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I can go play that he can run free.
32:34
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, absolutely.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: And so a lot of people have have benefited from this guy coming into the lineup and Montez Sweat.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: If you look at the stat sheet with Montez Sweat, he acting a fool out there now.
32:48
SPEAKER_03: He got the right PDs now, man.
32:50
SPEAKER_03: He got the right stuff.
32:55
SPEAKER_05: Russell Baker said a trade for a db don't need an edge.
33:00
SPEAKER_05: Uh oh, Russell, uh, that was my point.
33:05
SPEAKER_05: Sweat has always been faster than JJ.
33:09
SPEAKER_07: Well, I just think as tomorrow's trade deadline looms.
33:15
SPEAKER_07: I don't know where we can get a D D from.
33:21
SPEAKER_07: That's I you know, you know, you know, people I don't want no I don't want Nishan right back.
33:27
SPEAKER_07: You know, everybody look at his takeaways and think that equates um production, although it is production.
33:37
SPEAKER_07: If you look at some of the plays that he got beat on last year, you know, it we might as well stand pat with what we're doing.
33:46
SPEAKER_07: But right now, I just think with the addition of Jeffrey Sammons, and you got Samar Turner that's back now, who actually played pretty well last night.
33:54
SPEAKER_07: You got, like y'all say, uh Austin Booker is coming into his own.
33:59
SPEAKER_07: I just think the pass rush is gonna make the secondary a little bit better because they'll be able to get their hands on the quarterback.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, now here's the thought.
34:10
SPEAKER_03: Now, when we get, and I don't I don't think they necessarily are gonna go get a DB.
34:14
SPEAKER_03: I thought they were at first, and then I thought about this.
34:16
SPEAKER_03: When we get Kobe Bryant back in the next couple weeks, yeah, Cam Lewis is actually a cornerback, right?
34:24
SPEAKER_03: Cam Lewis is a corner, and we get Muhammad back.
34:27
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, and I told Nutty earlier, man, Cam Lewis laying that hat on people, man.
34:33
SPEAKER_06: I he said the tone, I don't know.
34:36
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, he set the tone, he set the tone in that Seattle game last week.
34:42
SPEAKER_03: And he's he's making plays, he's making plays, yes, and so do we really need to go get another corner back, you know, with Muhammad there and Cam.
34:53
SPEAKER_03: So we got depth.
34:54
SPEAKER_03: We just waiting on Kobe Bryant to get back.
34:56
SPEAKER_03: So, you know, we we'll see.
34:58
SPEAKER_03: When does Dio come back?
35:00
SPEAKER_07: After the probably right after the next game, he's still be back after the bye week.
35:04
SPEAKER_07: He should be back after the bye week.
35:06
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna see that ready.
35:07
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm I'm waiting to see that when you can rotate Dio, Booker, and Sweat.
35:13
SPEAKER_03: Um that's what I want to see.
35:15
SPEAKER_03: I want to wait to see that.
35:16
SPEAKER_03: So I'm looking for that.
35:20
SPEAKER_00: That's gonna look pretty nasty in a minute.
35:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we went from the defense man like the stat-wise good to actually watching it good.
35:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I mean they they played tremendous last night, they were all over the place.
35:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, we gave up some players.
35:38
SPEAKER_03: You know, it's NFL, we're gonna give up some plays, but you know, yeah, yeah.
35:43
SPEAKER_07: They played well in the red zone.
35:46
SPEAKER_07: They're the best third down team, they're the best third down defensive team in the league.
35:50
SPEAKER_07: Because the bottom line is when it's all said and done last night, they was the uh they the Buccaneers was two of 12 on third down.
35:58
SPEAKER_07: That's a lot.
35:59
SPEAKER_07: That that says a lot.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: They even got stopped on fourth down from the two.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that's that's a stout defense.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: So the Bears are starting to get their wheels and trying to figure out what kind of defense we're actually gonna be.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because they went from where you're trying to, you know, do all kinds of statistics and machinations and figure out who's gonna be where, to we actually have the ability of being a traditional dominant defense with just those four linemen, just figuring out which four linemen we're gonna use.
36:32
SPEAKER_07: And again, like I said, just coming off a string with three game stretch of primetime games, flying back from Seattle because you know they played that Seattle game Sunday night.
36:44
SPEAKER_07: They actually stayed in Seattle and didn't fly back till and they they didn't they didn't fly back till Monday.
36:51
SPEAKER_07: So now we go so now you got Sunday night game.
36:54
SPEAKER_07: You Monday night you come back home, you off on Tuesday, so you don't start practicing the game plan until Wednesday for a Sunday night game.
37:02
SPEAKER_07: So this was a big stretch for a team.
37:05
SPEAKER_03: But not a bro, they played Monday night and then stayed the Tuesday.
37:10
SPEAKER_07: Monday night stays the Tuesday.
37:11
SPEAKER_07: Okay, that's even that makes your point even more.
37:14
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, right.
37:15
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, no, that's even worse.
37:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's even worse.
37:19
SPEAKER_05: You know what I said, I I would point out, man, the defense played well, they was good in the red zone, but I am gonna point this out.
37:28
SPEAKER_05: Tampa's defensive secondary had better hands than they offensive receivers.
37:33
SPEAKER_05: They dropped a lot of passes, they dropped so many passes.
37:38
SPEAKER_05: But they were wide open, yeah.
37:41
SPEAKER_05: They dropped a lot of passes.
37:43
SPEAKER_05: They could have just took their D backs and said, Hey man, just play both sides of the field.
37:47
SPEAKER_05: They had better, they had better hands than you know.
37:51
SPEAKER_05: They they missed Mike Evans, they definitely missed Mike Evans.
37:54
SPEAKER_05: Um, on that, but they missed it.
37:58
SPEAKER_05: Still old, so yeah, he's he's hurt.
38:00
SPEAKER_05: He he hurt he got hurt like the third game.
38:02
SPEAKER_05: He's out on the Achilles injury, I believe.
38:04
SPEAKER_05: Matter of fact, I remember watching that game, but you know, they just don't have a player like him that could kind of uh dominate his game.
38:12
SPEAKER_07: And then they got Ibuka, but he was just coming off a concussion protocol last night.
38:16
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, you know, that was the first game he played in two weeks.
38:19
SPEAKER_07: So, you know, they but they did they they dropped a lot of wide open passes last night, and then you know, baker baker ain't a hundred percent, he's not a hundred percent either.
38:28
SPEAKER_07: You know, he got the thumb injury, you know, out there slinging it with a glove on that's made that was made by the Arizona Diamondbacks, you know.
38:36
SPEAKER_07: So it was a lot going on yesterday, but again, the Bears were able to weather the storm.
38:43
SPEAKER_03: Hey, hey, Paul, he said I thought Cam has only played nickel cornerback.
38:48
SPEAKER_03: It's actually harder to play nickel cornerback than outside cornerback.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: So, I mean, he's still a he's still a cornerback, but it's harder to play inside slot cornerback than it is outside, you know, it's different variations of routes that that guy can run.
39:03
SPEAKER_03: So that yeah, so that's that's why he most of those guys that play that slot position are almost like safeties, anyway.
39:10
SPEAKER_03: So you got your your uh your guy that got fired last week, CJ Gardner Johnson.
39:15
SPEAKER_03: You got Kyler Gordon, those guys are used to playing in the box, those guys are normally your blitzers and all that type of stuff.
39:21
SPEAKER_03: So that's a different type of player, but it's still a cornerback, nonetheless.
39:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
39:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I ain't trying to be all over the board, but I'm gonna say this again.
39:30
SPEAKER_05: I said it the second week.
39:31
SPEAKER_05: The Bears have a fumbling problem.
39:34
SPEAKER_05: I I said it the second week.
39:36
SPEAKER_05: When guys start putting the ball on the ground, right, regardless if it's called a fumble and a stat, it's a concern.
39:44
SPEAKER_05: If you look at Swift yesterday, that was barely inches away from being a fumble.
39:49
SPEAKER_05: His knee happened to just hit the ground.
39:51
SPEAKER_05: Uh coast and lovelin had another fumble that he was fortunate enough that they recovered.
39:58
SPEAKER_05: Everybody on the team last everybody on this offense have fumbled the ball this year, except I think Caleb Williams.
40:05
SPEAKER_05: Matter of fact, everybody on the offense probably has fumbled the ball.
40:08
SPEAKER_07: Call Menangai.
40:09
SPEAKER_05: Managa, of course.
40:10
SPEAKER_05: Of course he doesn't.
40:12
SPEAKER_05: But uh, but other than other than him, I believe everybody has put and you may look at the stat sheet and don't see the fumble because it wasn't a registered fumble, right?
40:22
SPEAKER_05: Because it could have been recovered, or it just to me, I'm saying putting the ball on the ground.
40:26
SPEAKER_05: I would say almost everybody has put the ball on the ground twice.
40:30
SPEAKER_07: But I ain't gonna blame Luther, I ain't gonna blame Luther for his though.
40:33
SPEAKER_07: Because uh Luther was out before he hit the ground, he was out before he hit the ground, correct?
40:40
SPEAKER_05: But he has fumbled the ball this year.
40:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm just saying the accumulations of fumbles, of course.
40:46
SPEAKER_05: He you know that was it, but I'm talking about the accumulation of fumble, they have to get more ball security, right?
40:51
SPEAKER_05: Because you're fumbling the ball, and the weather is not even adverse yet, so you have to get a whole uh ball security when you're playing right now in weather where it's not cold, you only had one game that was raining, right?
41:06
SPEAKER_05: It's not snow.
41:08
SPEAKER_05: That's one of the things that EB probably tightened up on them.
41:11
SPEAKER_05: So they need to get and work on ball security because if not, you're gonna go into those winter months fumbling the ball if you don't.
41:19
SPEAKER_05: And I bring this up every week because why?
41:21
SPEAKER_05: There are balls on the ground every week.
41:24
SPEAKER_00: Well, but no, the other thing we're thinking about is you know, we have a season over.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: So we just completed the ninth game.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: So the first thing that happens when you start losing focuses and things like that is you lose your fundamentals.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: So this is where you get linemen that are jumping off sides, or DBs that are looking in the backfield or whatever.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: You're you're used to that whole rigor moral just going through the motions, and you're not as focused as you need to be.
41:53
SPEAKER_00: That's why I think it's really good at this time that the Bears are able to uh have a week off and and try to re-energize.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's one of the best things the NFL could have done when they added that 17 game.
42:06
SPEAKER_00: Uh, first of all, having 17 games in one seven is is man, that's barbaric when you really think about it.
42:13
SPEAKER_00: All of the hits that these guys are absorbing.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: Um, if you just, as a man, if you go fall down five times a day, you're gonna be injured.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: So if they these guys are getting hit over and over and over and over again, uh, and they still talking about increasing it to another game.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: That's man, this is pretty ridiculous.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: You want one look at it.
42:36
SPEAKER_07: And the good thing about the Bears, they come they'll be coming off about week, and they are home.
42:40
SPEAKER_07: So they don't have to travel.
42:42
SPEAKER_07: So, so that's a good thing, you know.
42:44
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, we played a not so good football team too.
42:46
SPEAKER_03: And we're playing a not so good football team.
42:48
SPEAKER_03: So so that helps.
42:49
SPEAKER_03: It helps.
42:50
SPEAKER_03: That all makes help.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we just we just we just gear it up, getting ready.
42:55
SPEAKER_03: You know, we got this week off.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: Right.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: Uh right now we have seven wins, so we're we're still in the mix for first place, you know.
43:04
SPEAKER_03: That's all we need to do.
43:05
SPEAKER_03: And we're in the bye week, so we can't lose next week.
43:08
SPEAKER_03: So we'll still be in first place, and so then we come back, you know, it it the gauntlet starts, you know.
43:15
SPEAKER_03: So yeah, yeah, we'll be ready to go.
43:17
SPEAKER_03: And um, we'll get we'll get healthier as it goes on, which is good.
43:22
SPEAKER_03: That's good for us.
43:23
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we we're starting to get we'll start to get people back that you know, we'll get Kyle Manunga back.
43:30
SPEAKER_03: Let's see what we do, you know, with him.
43:33
SPEAKER_03: And you know, so we'll we'll get a couple other people back, and so now we'll be able to see this whole thing.
43:38
SPEAKER_03: I'm more interested in this defense than I am this offense right now, man.
43:42
SPEAKER_03: When we get all these people back, yeah, me too, too.
43:45
SPEAKER_09: Me too.
43:46
SPEAKER_03: If we're playing like this now, without everybody, just one guy, and somebody said it was like when Michael Parsons went to Green Bay that first couple weeks, and everybody started running around.
44:00
SPEAKER_03: Playing better defensively, Simmons has the same effect here because we didn't have a guy that's that's looking at the other team point like yeah, mofo, yeah, what's up, that dog?
44:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
44:13
SPEAKER_03: We we didn't have that, right?
44:15
SPEAKER_03: And so now I I said, man, Big Jeff is a bully.
44:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they didn't smack too.
44:22
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they didn't go for it, they didn't go for it on fourth down.
44:25
SPEAKER_03: He looked at the bench, go for it, go forward.
44:28
SPEAKER_07: I'm like, man, he was like, Are y'all really gonna do this?
44:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, are y'all really gonna do this?
44:35
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he he ain't talking, he's not talking to the players on the field, he's looking at the bench of time bowl.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: Go for it.
44:41
SPEAKER_03: Yep, go we who who on the bears was that guy, right?
44:48
SPEAKER_03: Nobody, nobody had a bunch of people that can back it up.
44:51
SPEAKER_03: Nobody, we didn't have nobody talking, nobody was talking.
44:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know what?
44:57
SPEAKER_05: I had said a I said a few weeks quick.
44:59
SPEAKER_05: I think I even said on out of bounds, and I said the the thing I like about Simmons coming up in this play.
45:04
SPEAKER_05: I was like, we finally get somebody vocal on the defense.
45:08
SPEAKER_05: I was like, because the only vocal to some degree is Garrett uh Grady Jarrett, Jared Jared Grady, yeah.
45:16
SPEAKER_05: He I was saying he was the only one, but you know what?
45:19
SPEAKER_05: He became so kind of like um uh you know, real motivated, you know, like he didn't kind of got into his spirit spiritual thing.
45:28
SPEAKER_05: He's probably not talking as much as he used to talk, right?
45:31
SPEAKER_05: Because you know, you hear him on the sideline now, it's kind of more of it's it's more mellowed, thank god.
45:36
SPEAKER_05: You know, you hear him now that so he may be not as doing the other person years ago was brisk of brisket was a talker, right?
45:42
SPEAKER_05: So it's like somebody do have to set that tone, and a lot of times you know that could back up.
45:48
SPEAKER_07: But a lot of times, a lot of times I don't want to talk on my team that can't play, and that's and that's what happens in my own.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: That's why that's why, and so I went back and watched when I was on Sean's podcast a couple weeks ago, and Sean used to always talk about man, you used to talk so much trash and all that.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: Man, most guys that talk trash can play, can play because it's more more or less uh, yeah, what's up?
46:12
SPEAKER_03: You ain't gonna beat me, or you know, I I said I was a choir boy, but you have to be able to, and you need that on your defense.
46:21
SPEAKER_03: Somebody that's looking at the other team saying, Yeah, like like on uh the thing, like bring it on, let's go.
46:29
SPEAKER_03: Yo, these are these are the 10 guys I got behind me.
46:32
SPEAKER_03: You got those 10.
46:33
SPEAKER_03: I'll meet you right here at this line.
46:35
SPEAKER_03: Don't cross this line, right?
46:37
SPEAKER_03: And so you gotta, we haven't had that.
46:41
SPEAKER_03: We haven't, we have not had that, and so when the leader comes in and we talked about Simmons changing the culture of the defense, he's changed the culture, dude.
46:54
SPEAKER_03: These guys are not getting tackles, and they dancing that uh you ain't see them doing that stuff before.
46:59
SPEAKER_03: These guys is yeah, I got you, you know.
47:07
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, and it's amazing that you can that you got one person that could change the entire culture of one side of the ball.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: Well, Jesse Simmons has done four 305 pounds and and you know body fat.
47:20
SPEAKER_07: You know last night.
47:23
SPEAKER_07: My My sand's sand's bigger bigger than than
47:24
hell.
47:24
hell.
47:25
SPEAKER_07: And you know, it was so crazy.
47:28
SPEAKER_07: It was so crazy last night as we were standing there before the anthem, and they introduced the players, they introduced the defense.
47:39
SPEAKER_07: Guess who was the last person that they introduced?
47:43
SPEAKER_07: Jeffrey Simmons.
47:44
SPEAKER_07: You've been here 10 days, and this is the effect that you've had on this team.
47:51
SPEAKER_07: And we looked at each other, we like, man, Jeffrey Simmons, and the crowd went crazy.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: Who else were you gonna announce last?
48:00
SPEAKER_00: Grady from Snap for this one.
48:02
SPEAKER_03: I don't think with him on the team, with him on the defense, and you announcing the defense, who you gonna announce last?
48:10
SPEAKER_08: Who else it used to be it used to be Jalen Johnson prior to this year?
48:14
SPEAKER_08: Jalen Johnson was the one that was coming out last when they were introduced to defense.
48:18
SPEAKER_07: But this but my point is, but my point is, but my point is this guy this guy been here 10 days, this guy been here 10 days, and that's how much they admire and respect him already in that locker room.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: Because he's a leader, it makes a difference, yeah.
48:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he's he's in there saying, We finna go destroy these dudes, follow me, right?
48:45
SPEAKER_03: And so now the people that's in there that had a little bit of confidence, just a little bit, got a less much confidence now, right?
48:54
SPEAKER_03: And that's why I said it comes hey, oh, hey, you know, your the boy ain't even playing no more.
49:02
SPEAKER_03: What's his name?
49:02
SPEAKER_03: Vanderburgh or whatever his name is.
49:05
SPEAKER_09: Uh yeah.
49:06
SPEAKER_03: Would you like to dump it?
49:08
SPEAKER_05: I think he got one play.
49:10
SPEAKER_05: Did he get one?
49:11
SPEAKER_05: I think he had one play last night.
49:12
SPEAKER_05: Did he get played?
49:13
SPEAKER_05: They don't need to.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: They don't need to not his his skill set.
49:17
SPEAKER_00: He is not gonna replace none of these people we got in front of him now.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: No, but you know what?
49:22
SPEAKER_07: Jeffrey Simmons played every snap last night except two plays.
49:26
SPEAKER_07: He took two plays off the entire game.
49:29
SPEAKER_03: This is what they said on the on the broadcast.
49:31
SPEAKER_03: They said that when you pin them back like towards the 10 and the 20, sometimes Dennis Allen will get some of the reserve defensive linemen in for the first couple plays to give his guys an extra break.
49:45
SPEAKER_03: So now when it comes down to if it's if they get them and stop them first down, second down, now you've got sweat and all them guys coming in like hello, I'm fresh.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: Here we go.
49:56
SPEAKER_03: And and it makes sense.
49:57
SPEAKER_03: So, like when we when we were giving the ball up and in plus territory, them guys ain't getting in, but if you pin them down on the 20 or whatever, you might see one of those one or two of those guys, but they're not gonna be playing much.
50:10
SPEAKER_03: Uh Shamar Turner came in and got some plays.
50:12
SPEAKER_03: He got some runs yesterday.
50:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he got some runs.
50:15
SPEAKER_03: He a dog too now.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: He's a dog.
50:18
unknown: Yeah.
50:21
SPEAKER_00: The best thing that I've seen since uh we had uh Simmons is that we no longer have a rookie safety leading the team in tackles.
50:31
SPEAKER_00: In tackles, you know, there's just if you're looking at the math, by the time they get to the safety, that's that's at least five yards.
50:39
SPEAKER_03: Hey, but hey, that boy's still balling, though.
50:44
SPEAKER_00: He's what he gives us, we like, oh, we forgot that you could do that, versus us counting on him to be the last line of defense.
50:54
SPEAKER_03: Jay, I got another I got another question though, too.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we was talking about coming out of the locker room and things like that.
51:02
SPEAKER_03: You don't think they're gonna announce the bros last?
51:11
SPEAKER_01: Come on, man.
51:12
SPEAKER_07: Hey man, I swear to god, I swear to God between I swear to god, between y'all and the noose, I'll be fighting every Sunday, man.
51:22
SPEAKER_07: I swear to God, if it ain't all like like that, like yesterday, Pat Price was out there yesterday, Danny wasn't yesterday.
51:31
SPEAKER_07: What's up?
51:31
SPEAKER_07: You know, so I I just be i I'll just be fighting.
51:34
SPEAKER_07: I'll be like, Man, I'm fighting the news and the Q's every week.
51:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying, good people to be fighting, man.
51:42
SPEAKER_00: What is that all about, man?
51:43
SPEAKER_07: Hey, hey, just know every weekly fighting.
51:47
SPEAKER_07: I'm just saying, just being around in general, just know every week.
51:52
SPEAKER_03: No, just know every week you're rooting for the bros to do good as so you feel.
51:59
SPEAKER_01: Let's go, bros.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: Let's go, bro.
52:01
SPEAKER_05: Hey, make sure you hit the subscribe.
52:04
SPEAKER_07: I'll still be representing though.
52:06
SPEAKER_07: I just want to see you though.
52:08
SPEAKER_07: I see you brought me representing.
52:09
SPEAKER_03: We see you, we give you we give you a problem.
52:12
SPEAKER_03: Hey, hey, you see that right there?
52:14
SPEAKER_03: You see that right there?
52:18
SPEAKER_03: It's right there.
52:19
SPEAKER_03: It's just I'm about to send us to Jeffrey Simmons for every sec.
52:23
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
52:24
SPEAKER_03: Oh, go ahead.
52:25
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead, yeah.
52:26
SPEAKER_05: Make make sure you hit the subscribe button if you watch it on YouTube.
52:30
SPEAKER_05: We at yeah, we had 910 uh subscribers, so we down to the last 90.
52:37
SPEAKER_05: It ain't the last 90, it's just the 90 to get to a thousand, right?
52:41
SPEAKER_05: So let's go on.
52:42
SPEAKER_05: We need you know, the bears are playing so good, and I know I look forward to talking about this, and I know everybody's out there, they look forward to talking about this.
52:53
SPEAKER_05: And I just want to mention that uh comment on Jeffrey Simmons.
52:57
SPEAKER_05: It was two plays that I was like, Man, that's kind of like crazy that he did not crazy like in bad, but where he uh he knocked the guy down to get Montez Sweat free.
53:08
SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
53:09
SPEAKER_05: Where he just shoved this guy, and then it was this sack on uh uh Baker where it looked like Baker was up in the pocket and he was about to throw the ball, but the way he sacked him was ridiculous.
53:25
SPEAKER_05: He dived into his chest.
53:30
SPEAKER_05: Look, Baker, Baker is gonna have some, he needs a few days before you know he's gonna be in that tub for a few days because I'm sure that because when he hit him, he hit the ball because Baker brought the ball, so he rammed that ball into Baker's chest.
53:45
SPEAKER_05: Baker got pent pent a few times.
53:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh one time I thought he was seriously hurt because then he kind of bent his legs up under him.
53:53
SPEAKER_05: No, he was not oppressor last night.
53:55
SPEAKER_03: That he was Austin Booker put on Baker Mayfield.
54:00
SPEAKER_03: Woo! Now, right now, he probably in the F Sall bath talking about I don't want to play no more.
54:05
SPEAKER_03: I was away because I was hurt.
54:07
SPEAKER_03: I don't even know if I need to Booker hit him from the block after he had just thrown a ball.
54:13
SPEAKER_03: Booker has smoked him and he didn't even see him.
54:16
SPEAKER_03: That's good to be able to even Jordan Love Fletch.
54:20
SPEAKER_03: So now he's like, That's that boy right there.
54:21
SPEAKER_03: Oh god, that's him.
54:22
SPEAKER_03: That's him.
54:23
SPEAKER_07: He said it's good to talk about, but it's good to talk about this team getting pressure with the front four, and that's what they've been doing the last couple of weeks.
54:32
SPEAKER_07: For them to be able to get pressure with the front four is big right now, and it can only get better.
54:37
SPEAKER_07: Like I said, the trade deadline is tomorrow at 3 p.m.
54:39
SPEAKER_07: Eastern.
54:40
SPEAKER_07: So we'll see what happens.
54:42
SPEAKER_07: But uh, I don't know what this broke out is gonna be with uh this kid from Tennessee that they had today.
54:48
SPEAKER_07: Uh, what's his name?
54:49
SPEAKER_07: Jordan Jordan Scott.
54:52
SPEAKER_07: I can't think it's uh the guy from Tennessee that pulled the gun on somebody.
54:55
SPEAKER_07: You know, the best was bringing him in for oh that guy, okay, okay.
54:58
SPEAKER_05: Hey, you know, I need to break away from the program for a minute, and we bring it on Pastor.
55:04
SPEAKER_05: I'm sorry, Sean.
55:05
SPEAKER_05: I caught you.
55:06
SPEAKER_05: He stepped away for a second.
55:09
SPEAKER_01: Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.
55:11
SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
55:12
SPEAKER_04: Hey, listen, I'm honored to be on the show, man.
55:15
SPEAKER_04: Good lord.
55:16
SPEAKER_04: Listen, not much.
55:18
SPEAKER_04: I was watching last night, and the guy that I'm playing against this week got Caleb Williams.
55:23
SPEAKER_04: So in that first quarter, I'm cussing.
55:25
SPEAKER_04: I'm in, I'm in church cussing, like this ain't gay.
55:28
SPEAKER_04: He's gonna kill me, kill me.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, okay, whatever happened, happened.
55:34
SPEAKER_04: Then them four interceptions.
55:35
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, I got life, I got life.
55:39
SPEAKER_04: Matter of fact, I'm watching the game tonight.
55:41
SPEAKER_04: I got cooked on my team.
55:43
SPEAKER_04: I picked up Buffalo's defense this week, and I got I I gave DJ Moore another shot just to see what the hell he's gonna do.
55:52
SPEAKER_04: So, hey, fantasy is fun as hell every week.
55:55
SPEAKER_04: You never know what's gonna happen.
55:57
SPEAKER_07: You know what it is, it would it is.
55:59
SPEAKER_07: I I was watching your cell a couple of weeks ago because I got Caleb, I got Caleb and Logan on my team as well.
56:05
SPEAKER_07: So, you know, at the beginning of the game, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, what is really going on?
56:11
SPEAKER_07: But I do got James Cook going tonight, but uh it looked like I'm gonna lose tonight because I'm down, I'm down by good 30.
56:16
SPEAKER_07: And uh won't bounce James Cook outside.
56:18
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, yeah, James ain't bouncing outside.
56:21
SPEAKER_05: I wanted to uh formally introduce uh Pastor Sean Thompson.
56:25
SPEAKER_05: That he has Pastor Pull Picks.
56:28
SPEAKER_05: I asked him to come on the show because I know we know the way we kind of started the show, we just started up, but I wanted to formally introduce him to our audience uh to make sure that you tune in to his show.
56:40
SPEAKER_05: Uh Pastor Pool Picks that uh it's on Saturday, every Saturday at 11 a.m.
56:46
SPEAKER_05: You know, we may have some variations here and there, but if you're into fantasy football, Sean is the man you want to listen to.
56:52
SPEAKER_05: You know, he's gonna give it his uh second shut in list.
56:56
SPEAKER_05: He's gonna give you uh confessions, you know.
57:00
SPEAKER_05: You know, he has a safe place for the people who just messing up, they can confess what you know that they don't know what they're doing.
57:07
SPEAKER_03: Hey man, I heard about Kyron Williams last week, man.
57:10
SPEAKER_03: Kyron Williams.
57:11
SPEAKER_03: came out just
57:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you got anything you want to share, Sean, before we uh you know what's funny.
57:19
SPEAKER_04: What's funny?
57:20
SPEAKER_04: One of the listeners he he he uh he made a comment on the show this past week.
57:25
SPEAKER_04: He asked about who to pick up, and I told him to go with Golden.
57:29
SPEAKER_04: And we see what Golden did yesterday.
57:32
SPEAKER_04: Uh hey, we just having fun on the show trying to help um share some stuff with the people, help people in the church, the fantasy league church, just having fun.
57:43
SPEAKER_04: Uh fantasy is fun.
57:45
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's fun.
57:46
SPEAKER_07: It is, it definitely is.
57:48
SPEAKER_05: It definitely is.
57:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but hey, thank you so much, man.
57:54
SPEAKER_05: But anyway, this bears game, man.
57:56
SPEAKER_05: We're going into a bye week, and I know we had talked about matter of fact, we gotta probably get this in place.
58:03
SPEAKER_05: We talked about we wanted to during the bye week have somebody come on the show, and even us ourselves, even going to get anybody on the show to talk about men's health and and have a safe space where you know we ain't saying we gotta reveal our own personal health challenges or whatever they may be, but just being able for us as men to talk about the things that men face, some of it it could be stress.
58:29
SPEAKER_05: A guy called me yesterday and uh he he said something to me, but anyway, he said, Yeah, but I don't know if you know I suffer from depression and anxiety, you know.
58:41
SPEAKER_05: And he said, Man, I already tell him, and I barely even know him, right?
58:43
SPEAKER_05: He just like hey man, you know, so because he was working on something for me, he said, Man, I just let you know that.
58:48
SPEAKER_05: Man, I don't tell a lot of people that, but you know, Kate said, if I just start, you know, getting withdrawal or feel the pressure, this deadline.
58:54
SPEAKER_05: I may just kind of go into you know withdrawal, right?
58:58
SPEAKER_05: Man, but don't take it personal, man.
59:00
SPEAKER_05: I just sometimes I get deadlines, I start panicking.
59:02
SPEAKER_05: So I just like hey man, you know, get it to me by Christmas, but you know, stuff like that for men.
59:08
SPEAKER_05: A lot of times, people uh because we don't talk about our health month much.
59:14
SPEAKER_05: People start just labeling you, right?
59:16
SPEAKER_05: Maybe whatever we may say the person is odd, weird, punk, whatever we might use to describe them versus they have challenges, right?
59:26
SPEAKER_05: It could be mental health challenges or whatever.
59:28
SPEAKER_05: But Pastor Sean, you're welcome to come back when we get that date.
59:31
SPEAKER_05: Um when we're gonna do it.
59:33
SPEAKER_05: Please, yeah.
59:35
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I would love to uh I would love to have that conversation.
59:38
SPEAKER_07: You know, it's just like, and I feel like we've always in the seven years that we've done this show, we've always been able to use the bye week or whether we set it up, like we did uh the tale of the black quarterbacks.
59:53
SPEAKER_07: You know, that was a four-part series where we did that.
59:55
SPEAKER_07: So for us to be able to come back and I'm gonna start sniffing around.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_07: I'm I'm gonna try to ask the wife.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna try to ask the wife, would she be willing to come on?
1:00:04
SPEAKER_07: Because my wife is a uh psychotherapist, you know, she works, she she works in mental health.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_07: So I'm gonna try to see if I can convince her to come on.
1:00:12
SPEAKER_07: But just for us to be able to have that safe space for people to ask questions and possibly get some answers.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_07: I mean, you're not gonna get all the answers, but if you got something that can push you in the right direction of where you need to go or who what what what help you need to seek, it's it would be helpful.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_07: You know, I tell people all the time, as a man, I have always been an advocate, you know, for men going to the doctor, you know, and I always use this thing like we all college educated, everybody got dogs, we got health insurance.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_07: You pay health insurance, you might as well go to the doctor.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_07: You know, it ain't gonna cost you nothing, and you can't be in fear of what you might find out because what you might find out may actually save your life.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_07: Yes, sir.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, one of the things I wanted to add to that is, you know, as black men, it's very, you know, we we have a very rigid existence where it's for the most part is not okay for us to suffer.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_00: It's not okay for us to show that we're hurting or whatever.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_00: We always gotta be the strong uh person.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_00: And you know, I'm just here to tell the brothers it's okay to not be okay.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_00: It's all right, you know.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_00: Strangely enough, something as simple as I have called my friends and my my brothers and whatever, and I tell them, hey man, I was thinking about you.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_00: I love you.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_00: That almost gets brothers very uncomfortable, and there's no reason why we should feel like that.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_00: It's okay, it's nothing wrong with us loving each other.
1:01:44
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_03: I've been very open about what I've been going through in hopes that it will encourage people to go get checked and things of that nature.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_03: Um so you know, it it sometimes is hard for men to talk about what they're going through.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_03: And uh, like I said, I've been very open.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_03: If people ask me, I just I tell them because you know, I always say I hope it scared the hell out of you, and that you would go to go get checked out and go get, you know, it's I'm gonna tell you, and so when they tell you that you have cancer, they don't look to the side, they look you in your eye, and you have to deal with whatever comes from that.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, Sean is uh uh uh he works in the hospitals, and so it it's it is sometimes telling because you go from I go from being this football player, this guy that everybody depends on, to a guy that has to depend on everybody, and sometimes that's hard and it hurts our egos.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_03: And so, with that, you know, sometimes you have to get over that, and you know, it is it's kind of hard, man.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_03: I'm in therapy now.
1:02:50
SPEAKER_03: I have therapy every Monday.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_03: I've been in therapy for a year and a half, and so a lot of men won't go to therapy, but it's just a place where I go to kick the bobos and just talk about what happened and all that.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_03: It ain't always bad, there's just somebody talks to.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, can I explain?
1:03:08
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, sorry.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_05: Then we're gonna go to the graves after that.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_04: So, yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't know the order one, two, no, no, no, I don't know.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_04: So, I was gonna say, um, in the church, in our community, it has been so taboo, and in the church now, we're trying to break this taboo about mental illness and mental health because um a lot of our members suffer from this spiritualism and neo-Pentecostalism where they think everything can be solved in the church.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_04: And uh, you know, I'm a very big advocate for my members.
1:03:43
SPEAKER_04: Look, some of y'all, y'all come talk to Pastor, but I ain't qualified to deal with some of y'all's stuff, right?
1:03:50
SPEAKER_04: Y'all, y'all really need to go see a therapist.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_04: And me myself, I got a therapist.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_04: I go talk to go talk to somebody.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_04: Now, no, I ain't crazy, not a whole lot, a little bit, but I just need to un stuff, talk some stuff out, unload on somebody, help have somebody to walk through things with me.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_04: I think everybody does, and our community needs to start embracing that the physical side and the mental side, especially for me.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_04: Because men, you know, we talk, we strong, we don't cry, we don't show emotions, we build all that stuff up.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_04: I and I'm willing to come back and talk because I mean as a pastor and I got other pastor friends, we are always expected to be up, carry the load, and then on Mondays, it's like, oh my god, you know, it's a whole lot.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_04: So, yep, let me know.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_05: I'm willing to finish five and a half weeks.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_05: Hey, thanks for sharing, David.
1:04:47
SPEAKER_05: Uh hey, definitely, definitely, Sean.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_05: Hey, hey, uh, David, thanks for sharing with us.
1:04:52
SPEAKER_05: Like if we're a breakaway from the program, but we did one.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_05: I wanted to introduce uh Pastor Sean Thompson fantasy football show.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_05: And from listening to you guys talk, I do think we probably gonna need two shows, one on physical health and one on mental health, and one on mental, absolutely the mental health, right?
1:05:11
SPEAKER_05: And um, and we we we can work it out, man.
1:05:14
SPEAKER_05: And I just want to make one point about the mental health.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_05: Social media is not your counselor or your therapist, you make it use it to help you feel good temporarily.
1:05:23
SPEAKER_05: Do not take people advice who are just rambling on social media, they're not a lot of them are not trained professionals.
1:05:30
SPEAKER_05: I just want to say that because you know people get to talking on that, they've been acting like that.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_05: And I know sometimes people are reaching out, so if you see somebody that you know that are crying out for help and you see it in the social media, make sure you reach out to that person because they could be crying out for help or something.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_05: Um and you know, and they may not feel like who they could personally reach out to, but if you see them, you know, if you see something, maybe recommend.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_05: They can you know reach out to or maybe use the job, uh EPA or whatever it's called.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_05: But in the game, let's get to the grades and we're gonna get out of here.
1:06:09
SPEAKER_05: We got grades from offense, defense, special teams.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_05: Who's first?
1:06:13
SPEAKER_04: Wait, fast and fast the fin to get out of here.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_04: Pastor go get out Hey, one last thing.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_04: If anybody got a hookup on that black uh veterans uh hoodie that the bears coaches was wearing yesterday, please somebody hook me up.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_04: Somebody hooked you up as a member of the military.
1:06:33
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to grab one.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_04: Veterans Day coming up, too.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_04: Thank you for your service.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_04: Yes, uh, thank y'all for having me on.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_04: Good to see y'all, man.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_04: Good to see you.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_04: All right, all right, all right.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_07: As far as grades go, I'm gonna give the uh Bears defense a B.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna start off with the defense.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_07: I'm gonna give them a B.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_07: Um, you know, two or 12 on uh on third down.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_07: You know, they did give up some plays, uh, but they they they actually played pretty well uh given the predicament they was in with the five turnovers.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_07: Uh offense, I'm gonna give a C.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_07: Uh we got to show up the running game.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_07: And, you know, this is unlike Ben, you know, Ben does run the football.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_07: But, you know, with the injury to Manon guy and Swift being banged up, uh it is what it is.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_07: Like you said, it was gonna be a heavy pass game uh coming into the game.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_07: Uh, special teams, I'm gonna get them with B as well.
1:07:38
SPEAKER_07: Uh the bottom line is we went into a game, a third primetime game in a row, and we came out with a victory.
1:07:45
SPEAKER_07: We we didn't play well, but we came out with a victory uh before about week, and that's what we needed.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, these these victories right here are so important because everybody in the division has won at least everybody's won six games at the Bears.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_05: The Bears only won with seven victories, so you gotta stay on pace, and it doesn't matter if it's uh an ugly win or a pretty win, a win is a win.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_05: Uh I get the defense a B.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_05: I give the offense a C.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_05: And I was I was I was wavering on that uh special teams with the B because you had a block punt and they end up calling a penalty that uh brought back.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_05: away.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_05: Could have taken a push down off the board, even though it's questionable, but the play was still called you know, So I was questionable of maybe even moving them down because those are momentum swing type plays, you know.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_05: You just can't you can't have that matter.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_05: They had another penalty too on the kickoff, uh, where they was holding somebody, and then also you had uh um the punt returner.
1:08:55
SPEAKER_05: He he put the ball on the ground.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_05: He got fortunate, he misjudged uh punt that hit his shoulder pass that was Raymond and bounced in front of him, and he was very fortunate because that ball would have been on the 15-yard line, and that was in the crucial part of the game where the score had got close.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, I'll go up.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_00: We can get we can let Quick go last so he can comment on my on my scores.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm giving special teams, I'm giving special teams a B.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_00: Um they did get a block punt, but again, uh calling back that touchdown.
1:09:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh that was a phantom call.
1:09:32
SPEAKER_00: That shouldn't happen.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_00: If that if we get that call, it's a very different game.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_00: Um Kairo Santos came through once again.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_00: Uh people take him for granted.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_00: And he's actually uh he's really balling out.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_00: Offense, I'm giving a C minus.
1:09:48
SPEAKER_00: Um the interceptions did not help.
1:09:50
SPEAKER_00: The fumble didn't help.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_00: Um I'm not holding that fumble uh specifically against uh Luther Burden because uh man, the brother was knocked out.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_00: But um I'm charging that against uh Ben Johnson because he abandoned the run.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_00: We gotta consistently keep doing that.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't care who's who's playing, you know, we gotta commit to that.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_00: And as long as Quick knows and quick's here, he can say whatever he wants.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_00: Defense gets an A.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_00: Well, we're talking about uh two for 12 on third down.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_00: Defense play stout stops in the red zone.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_00: And here's the other thing that really takes me over from B plus to A.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_00: Defense not only picked off the ball twice, defense scored when they picked it off.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_00: So the expectation when offense is giving up five turnovers and defense gets uh the ball back, they get an A, man.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for the for the W.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for your service, brother.
1:10:58
SPEAKER_00: What you got, Quick?
1:11:02
SPEAKER_00: Besides violence and anger, man.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_03: All right, it's my turn.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_03: All right, we'll we'll start off with special teams.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'll give special teams, I'll give them actually an A-reason being is because Santos came through in the clutch again, penalty wasn't their fault, didn't lose that fumble, so they'll get an A-.
1:11:26
SPEAKER_03: They didn't do anything to deserve not getting a A minus.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_03: The offense actually is getting a D from me today because we have used to scoring 30 points.
1:11:39
SPEAKER_03: If it wasn't for Jalen Johnson's touchdown, we would have only scored 21 points, and we would have lost the game.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: Put the ball in harm's way, didn't really execute on a lot of plays except for those first couple drives in the first quarter.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_03: All right, and now we get to the defense.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_03: You gave the defense an A.
1:12:05
SPEAKER_03: I'm giving the damn defense an A, too, because they looked at the ass yesterday.
1:12:11
SPEAKER_01: They beat their ass.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_01: And that's defense.
1:12:15
SPEAKER_01: They beat their ass yesterday.
1:12:22
SPEAKER_01: Nope.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_05: If Jalen Johnson gives an interception, Devin and runs into the house, defense gets a
1:12:35
SPEAKER_03: That
1:12:35
SPEAKER_05: game yesterday was the uh Dennis Green uh game from 2006.
1:12:40
SPEAKER_05: The Bears are who we thought we they are game, and for those who heard the phrase and wasn't round, he did the game.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_05: The Bears was losing that game.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_05: That was the difference of but the offense sucked, and I want to say Rex threw four interceptions in that game, three to four interceptions, whatever it was.
1:12:57
SPEAKER_05: Their defense rallied that game at the rally at the end of the game, and they scored on special teams, punt return or fumble, all that.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_05: And that's why Dennis Green had the meltdown, but that team showed that they could overcome adversity, and that's why I say this is the Bears.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_05: Uh the Bears are who we thought they are, right?
1:13:18
SPEAKER_05: I think the Bears is a championship team, and last night showed me that even in adversity, they could overcome it and win the game, you know.
1:13:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay, Jay.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_04: No, he won already.
1:13:36
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, Jay gave the score.
1:13:37
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I win.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, I win.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_07: I gave my yeah, yeah, I gave my I gave my thing.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_07: I just think that you know, I'm just glad that we were able to come away with the victory and go into the bye week and be able to come back.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_07: And then, you know, we got you know, New Orleans, and then we got the Thanksgiving game.
1:13:58
SPEAKER_07: Again, we finna go through this barrage of games where you know it's it's a holiday or it's a it's it's a night game.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_07: We ain't got no more night games, but we still don't know if games are gonna be flexed because now we're getting in that position where you know the games can be flexed.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_07: And then we got that gauntlet with the last three weeks where we got uh oh, we do have a night game left.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_07: I do believe that the Buffalo game is a uh a primetime game, if I'm not mistaken.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_07: I believe that Buffalo game is the prime time game.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_07: Yeah, it is, but yeah, so so we you know they they seven and two going into a bye week, and that's a good thing.
1:14:33
SPEAKER_07: That's a good thing, yeah.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
1:14:36
SPEAKER_05: I I think uh um if you was gonna have a game like this where it was a struggle with some flaws, you know, like the interceptions and some of the other stuff, right?
1:14:47
SPEAKER_05: Perfect time to have is right before a bye.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's not time you really want it, but that you have enough time to address those issues and you know to try to correct it.
1:14:59
SPEAKER_05: Because other than that, most of the time you don't have because, like Jay mentioned, you play Monday night, you got on the plane Tuesday, and think about you playing again Sunday.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_05: So you basically Wednesday probably got some.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_05: I don't know what they did on Wednesday, you know.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_05: Maybe they watched some film or they was off.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_05: I don't know, right?
1:15:16
SPEAKER_05: But by the time Friday, you ain't doing nothing but a walk through and get through the game, right?
1:15:21
SPEAKER_05: Right, yeah.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_07: And so um, so we're gonna uh we're gonna see.
1:15:26
SPEAKER_07: Uh this by week couldn't have come at a better time.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_07: It couldn't have came at a better time.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_07: Oh, yeah, oh yeah.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna be able to sit back and relax next this upcoming Sunday and and relax and watch everybody else as uh Buffalo is beating uh Minnesota right now, 10 to 3, right before the half.
1:15:44
SPEAKER_07: Uh before the half and we're gonna see what happened.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna see what happens.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_05: We'd be back here tomorrow with out of bounds with Dr.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_05: Quick.
1:15:54
SPEAKER_05: Rudy Pooh back here at eight o'clock.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_05: You're gonna be giving out that Rudy Pooh award, a prior recipient of that award.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_05: Uh somebody's gotta get it quick.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_05: Somebody's gotta get it quick quick.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_05: What you I know you uh got a couple topics that you um said you want to talk about.
1:16:15
SPEAKER_05: Uh, I know you had some polls and stuff out there, so like we're gonna, you know, you probably go over some of your poll results, uh some of that conversation.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bless you.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that I've been posting on my uh Facebook page.
1:16:30
SPEAKER_03: A lot of feedback coming back.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_03: Um, something just came out today that the Morgan Park head football coach was fired.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_03: So I don't know if I'm gonna go with that or check out your Sun Times.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh yeah, so they they are just the principal call downtown and pulled Morgan Park out of the Prep Bowl playoffs, so they won't be in.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_03: So it's a lot of stuff that's brewing, man.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_03: That that you know, I don't know.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_03: I get a lot of intel, you know, before it really comes out.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_03: And uh got some other stuff that I may be working on.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_03: I had a had a topic that I wanted to do, but I may shift.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_03: So you just gotta tune in tomorrow, man.
1:17:12
SPEAKER_03: You gotta tune in tomorrow, see what happens, you know.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_03: Out of bounds, yeah.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_05: Tune in tomorrow, out of bounds, and tune in Thursday.
1:17:19
SPEAKER_05: Christian is gonna have a lot to talk about, right?
1:17:22
SPEAKER_05: Because this is officially the first bad performance by Caleb this year.
1:17:28
SPEAKER_05: So, you know, most of the uh two-minute drill has been roses and flowers, right?
1:17:34
SPEAKER_05: Because there's not has been a lot to talk about, so rainbows.
1:17:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know what, and I'll just say this quick show and Christian show is really doing some real good numbers.
1:17:46
SPEAKER_05: I mean, Christian show last week.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_05: Um quick came on there, Dr.
1:17:51
SPEAKER_05: Quick came on there.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_05: Man, and uh the viewers, it was man, it it did real good.
1:17:58
SPEAKER_05: So make sure you tone it, tune in to both shows.
1:18:01
SPEAKER_05: And like I said, we'll be back here.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_05: Um, I guess we decided we're gonna be back Friday, you know.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_05: For I know we won't do the health show on Friday, but somehow we'll do the health show right up in between there.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_05: But Friday usually be the uh pre-game show, but they don't have a game this weekend.
1:18:16
SPEAKER_05: And then say can we do it on Sunday?
1:18:19
SPEAKER_05: We can do it on Sunday.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_05: You can do it on Sunday, Sunday night, right?
1:18:22
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, after after you know, the the three o'clock game before the uh the three o'clock, yeah, before the Sunday night game.
1:18:29
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, let's do it maybe like around like six o'clock or something.
1:18:32
SPEAKER_05: That's that gap between six and seven, yeah.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_05: Uh between the uh three three fifteen game and the um game that's on NBC.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_05: And like say on Saturday, uh make sure you tune in to uh past the pool picks to get your fantasy numbers down.
1:18:47
SPEAKER_05: And I'm really working on getting us a college show, and I'm gonna have to I'm gonna keep reaching out to to your frat brother.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_05: Um to get him.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_05: I mean, he's our college football guru, but I'm gonna have to start getting him to um share some of that uh knowledge, Jay.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_05: What are we talking about?
1:19:05
SPEAKER_05: Dino uh uh Dino.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_05: Uh no, no, no, no, no.
1:19:10
SPEAKER_05: Umstrong.
1:19:16
SPEAKER_05: That's our college, that's our college football guru, man.
1:19:18
SPEAKER_00: So we need to get Dino on the show at least once, though, man.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_05: At least I keep telling him.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_07: I keep telling him, I keep telling them.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_07: We're gonna get it like I ain't told him, so I keep telling them.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_05: And I just have I think I got Dino's phone number now.
1:19:31
SPEAKER_05: I think last time I saw him, I got his number from him.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_05: Uh, so I probably just started calling him, right?
1:19:36
SPEAKER_05: Just put him on the spot.
1:19:38
unknown: There you go.
1:19:39
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1:19:44
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1:19:47
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1:19:54
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, right.
1:19:55
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1:19:55
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