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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm Josh, and
- 0:06Speaker 1: there's Chuck and Dave's He's here with us in spirit.
- 0:09Speaker 1: I can feel and I can feel his presence wrapped
- 0:12Speaker 1: around us in a big hug um. And that means,
- 0:15Speaker 1: of course that this is short stuff, very loving, harmonious
- 0:19Speaker 1: episode about disemboweling, being beheaded, um, and having your innards
- 0:25Speaker 1: burnt in front of your very eyes. Yes, we're talking
- 0:30Speaker 1: about the old timey punishments and one of the reasons
- 0:35Speaker 1: that you hear about things like being drawn and quartered
- 0:39Speaker 1: and you know, all this disgusting taking stuff taking places
- 0:42Speaker 1: that kings and nobility would do the stuff to. Really,
- 0:47Speaker 1: I mean that was the intent, was to try and say, hey,
- 0:50Speaker 1: you don't want this to happen to you, don't do
- 0:52Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. They weren't only sat us, they
- 0:55Speaker 1: might have been that too, but it was really as
- 0:58Speaker 1: a countermeasure to try to keep people from committing crimes. Uh. Yeah,
- 1:05Speaker 1: it was like basically saying like this is this is
- 1:07Speaker 1: what happens if you mess with me the king. It
- 1:09Speaker 1: just shows like not everybody can do that, even its
- 1:13Speaker 1: historically speaking, not everybody can order somebody to do that
- 1:17Speaker 1: to another human being and get away with it. And
- 1:19Speaker 1: that's kind of what the monarch was showing, like this
- 1:22Speaker 1: is what happens. And so it was reserved for the
- 1:25Speaker 1: worst possible crimes you can think of, which was the
- 1:28Speaker 1: crime against the monarchy, like treason, you know. Yeah, and
- 1:32Speaker 1: we're specifically talking about being hanged, drawn and quartered, which
- 1:36Speaker 1: is a real thing, but it's just not quite in
- 1:40Speaker 1: that order. And they don't know why we say it
- 1:43Speaker 1: that way. It's kind of weird, right, And they left
- 1:45Speaker 1: out some pretty important parts too, but they were just
- 1:48Speaker 1: it's it's one of the lazi early more lazily named
- 1:51Speaker 1: I was made up a word, but I said no, No,
- 1:54Speaker 1: it was one of the more lazily named punishments. But um.
- 1:58Speaker 1: It started out in the thirteen century. I think the
- 2:01Speaker 1: first person was a pirate who will talk about by
- 2:04Speaker 1: the last name of Maurice Um and and then um.
- 2:11Speaker 1: It went all the way up until the nineteenth century.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Even it wasn't until eighteen seventy that it was taken
- 2:16Speaker 1: off of the books where it was finally outlawed in
- 2:20Speaker 1: England as a punishment for crime. Yeah, I think it's
- 2:23Speaker 1: we should read here the actual English law text. So
- 2:27Speaker 1: here goes, uh, that you be drawn on a hurdle
- 2:31Speaker 1: to the place of execution, where you shall be hanged
- 2:34Speaker 1: by the neck easy enough to understand, uh, and being
- 2:37Speaker 1: alive cut down. Okay, your privy members shall be cut off.
- 2:42Speaker 1: I think we know what that's all about. Private parts,
- 2:48Speaker 1: and your bowels taken out and burned before you, your
- 2:51Speaker 1: head severed from your body, and your body divided into
- 2:54Speaker 1: four quarters to be disposed of at the king's pleasure,
- 2:58Speaker 1: which I mean it is. Yeah, that's owningly, you can
- 3:00Speaker 1: still kind of get what they're saying in a lot
- 3:03Speaker 1: of ways, but well we'll explain it just to be
- 3:05Speaker 1: a little more graphic. So the first part is drawing
- 3:08Speaker 1: right where you're put on like a sled aboard something
- 3:12Speaker 1: like that, and you're dragged behind a horse. Um, And
- 3:15Speaker 1: typically you're dragged in London from Newgate Prison to the
- 3:20Speaker 1: execution grounds in a place called Tyburn, which, now that
- 3:24Speaker 1: I am aware of this, I want to go tour
- 3:26Speaker 1: Tyburn next time we're in London. I'll bet they have
- 3:28Speaker 1: some pretty gruesome like guided tours, you know. Yeah, and
- 3:32Speaker 1: when you say dragged on a sled, um, it's not
- 3:35Speaker 1: like fun Santa Slay style right style or Indiana Jones style. No,
- 3:43Speaker 1: probably even worse than that. I think the idea is
- 3:46Speaker 1: that that part is also painful and humiliating their people
- 3:50Speaker 1: along this little parade route, like throwing garbage at you.
- 3:55Speaker 1: When you finally get there, you're in pretty rough shape.
- 3:57Speaker 1: And then they hang you from a rope. But the
- 4:00Speaker 1: intent is not to kill you, so they don't like
- 4:02Speaker 1: pull the gallows and you drop through the trapdoor and
- 4:05Speaker 1: break your neck. You're The point is to hang you
- 4:07Speaker 1: to where you're choking and you're asphyxiating and you think
- 4:11Speaker 1: you're gonna die. But then they don't let that happen, right,
- 4:15Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, no, we're gonna bring you back
- 4:18Speaker 1: or cut you down before you can possibly die. So
- 4:22Speaker 1: now we've got the drawn part, the hanged part. Now
- 4:24Speaker 1: we get to, for my money, the worst part, where
- 4:27Speaker 1: your genitalia is cut off. And by the way, we
- 4:30Speaker 1: should say this from what I could tell, this specifically
- 4:33Speaker 1: applied to men um, and I think because of this
- 4:36Speaker 1: part um, out of propriety or a sense of propriety,
- 4:40Speaker 1: women were burned at the stake instead so being hang,
- 4:43Speaker 1: drawn and corded with specific for men um. But they
- 4:47Speaker 1: would cut off your junk, and um, they would burn
- 4:50Speaker 1: it in the fire in front of you. So by
- 4:52Speaker 1: this time, I mean, you could possibly bleed to death
- 4:54Speaker 1: from that, but you probably yeah, you were around long enough,
- 4:58Speaker 1: I would guess to just to watch your junk burn
- 5:01Speaker 1: up in front of you. Then after that, step two
- 5:04Speaker 1: is they would cut you from the growing to the
- 5:05Speaker 1: stern um and disembowel you. Right, yeah, I mean, who
- 5:10Speaker 1: knows how long you live? I know we did an
- 5:12Speaker 1: actual episode one of our early ones that before they
- 5:16Speaker 1: were even like ten minutes long, kind of like these,
- 5:18Speaker 1: except not as good. Uh, how long you live when
- 5:21Speaker 1: your head was got off? Now, that was a long episode.
- 5:23Speaker 1: I think it was like a good forty minutes. Oh,
- 5:26Speaker 1: I don't think it was nearly that long. I'll bet
- 5:28Speaker 1: you five dollars it was forty minutes. I bet it
- 5:31Speaker 1: wasn't over thirty Okay, five dollars, look it up? Okay, okay,
- 5:35Speaker 1: Uh where was I Oh? Yeah, So we don't know
- 5:37Speaker 1: how long you live when you are disemboweled like that,
- 5:41Speaker 1: but I would imagine that you bleed out pretty quickly,
- 5:44Speaker 1: but you still might see like your guts spill out,
- 5:47Speaker 1: which I mean, like we're really kind of like hitting
- 5:49Speaker 1: that part right there, chuck that, like you're seeing this,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and I think it's because if if you just take
- 5:55Speaker 1: half of a second and put yourself into the position
- 5:58Speaker 1: of somebody, who's who's who is being done to, like
- 6:01Speaker 1: seeing your body parts being tossed in a fire in
- 6:05Speaker 1: front of you, when you know they're supposed to be
- 6:06Speaker 1: like in your body or attached to your body. Still,
- 6:09Speaker 1: the psych the psychological impact of that has to just
- 6:12Speaker 1: be has to compound the pain exponentially too. It's a
- 6:16Speaker 1: really mean thing to do on top of everything else.
- 6:19Speaker 1: And also just just just to just to drive this
- 6:22Speaker 1: home really quick to there are a lot of people
- 6:26Speaker 1: standing around chanting for your death, yelling at you, maybe
- 6:29Speaker 1: throwing garbage at you while this is going on too,
- 6:32Speaker 1: So they're also your townsfolk are being mean to you too.
- 6:38Speaker 1: That's right. So let's take a break and we've covered
- 6:41Speaker 1: drawn and hanged and uh, what do you even call
- 6:47Speaker 1: that last part disemboweled disemboweled, and we'll cover scattered, smothered,
- 6:53Speaker 1: and covered. Right, that was beautiful, Thank you, nice work.
- 7:23Speaker 1: So we're getting to the scattered, smothering, covered part. Don't
- 7:26Speaker 1: forget chunked, the talks. I think that's the final there's
- 7:30Speaker 1: I think there's one more. I think after topped. Even Yeah,
- 7:34Speaker 1: there's something with Chili's. I think chili is topped. Oh
- 7:38Speaker 1: is it? I thought, though, no, no chili. There's also
- 7:40Speaker 1: like Hall opens. I think you can get on it. Oh,
- 7:44Speaker 1: so scattered, smothered, covered, chunked, topped, and chili I guess
- 7:47Speaker 1: I don't think they call it that, but something. Yeah,
- 7:49Speaker 1: that's all the way. And by the way, for those
- 7:52Speaker 1: of you who don't live near a waffle house, I
- 7:54Speaker 1: think there may be ton of you listening. These are
- 7:58Speaker 1: ways that you can order your hash browns. Yeah, yeah,
- 8:00Speaker 1: how did you order him? Scattered, smothered, and covered? And
- 8:04Speaker 1: then I would get chunked. But I don't need pork
- 8:06Speaker 1: anymore because pigs are way too smart to to eat
- 8:10Speaker 1: No more chunk, which is unfortunate because pigs are also
- 8:14Speaker 1: far in away the most delicious animal we have domesticated.
- 8:17Speaker 1: But yeah for you for taking the stand anyway. So, scattered,
- 8:21Speaker 1: which means that it's not in a hockey puck, smothered
- 8:24Speaker 1: which means it has sautet onions in with it, and
- 8:27Speaker 1: covered where they put a slice of non cheese cheese
- 8:30Speaker 1: on it, right, what about you? I'm ashame to admit
- 8:34Speaker 1: that I was a very boring person. I disliked my
- 8:36Speaker 1: hash Browns plane. I would get a double order, okay,
- 8:41Speaker 1: and that was it. I would just get a double
- 8:42Speaker 1: order a hash brown I mean you, okay, I understand,
- 8:47Speaker 1: But would you put like ketchup on it or something?
- 8:50Speaker 1: M hm, salt and pepper? Huh? Would it like egg
- 8:53Speaker 1: yolk in mixed in there or anything? Okay? All right? Yeah, okay, yeah,
- 8:57Speaker 1: I mean I'll mix it up with the eggs and
- 8:59Speaker 1: cover else is on the plane. You know, like totally insane?
- 9:02Speaker 1: Were you just I would like the driest order of
- 9:05Speaker 1: hash Browns you've ever made. That's the beauty of it.
- 9:07Speaker 1: They're never dry even without that stuff on him some parts.
- 9:11Speaker 1: I've had some dry hash Browns. All right, I think
- 9:14Speaker 1: we should move on. Alright. So the last step in
- 9:18Speaker 1: this process is the quartering, and uh, this involves you
- 9:24Speaker 1: know kind of what it sounds like. They would I
- 9:25Speaker 1: don't think we mentioned before. After you got disemboweed, they
- 9:28Speaker 1: would cut the heart out, throw that in the fire.
- 9:31Speaker 1: You're almost certainly dead after that. Um, your head comes
- 9:35Speaker 1: off during this last process off from the horror, and
- 9:41Speaker 1: then um, finally you're genuinely quartered, as in your arms
- 9:45Speaker 1: and legs are cut off. They boil those and some
- 9:49Speaker 1: spices to make the flesh last as long as possible
- 9:54Speaker 1: because your body parts are going on tour. That's right.
- 9:58Speaker 1: So you're being sent like parts of you are being
- 10:01Speaker 1: sent to different like nearby areas. That is under the
- 10:03Speaker 1: king's control to basically say like, hey, this is what
- 10:06Speaker 1: happens to traders. This is the leg of this guy
- 10:09Speaker 1: who was drawn in quarter. You all know what hang
- 10:11Speaker 1: drawn in quarter does, and look at this. This is
- 10:14Speaker 1: the result of that. So don't try anything against the king.
- 10:16Speaker 1: That's kind of what what the point was. I didn't
- 10:19Speaker 1: see anything about the torso, because there would be some
- 10:21Speaker 1: torso left over, but it just seemed like they would
- 10:25Speaker 1: cut their arms and lays. Was the quarter the quarter part,
- 10:28Speaker 1: But the that that also makes it confusing with another
- 10:31Speaker 1: form of torture and sometimes capital punishment, which was being
- 10:35Speaker 1: quartered right by horses, which is a totally different thing
- 10:39Speaker 1: that England didn't even do. Yeah, yeah, that was you
- 10:42Speaker 1: know you've heard about when you have like each limb
- 10:44Speaker 1: is tied to a different horse. And then they yeah
- 10:47Speaker 1: them in the different directions, but apparently didn't happen in England,
- 10:51Speaker 1: apparently might have probably happened in France under King Henry
- 10:55Speaker 1: the Fourth after an asassination attempt. Uh. And then the
- 11:03Speaker 1: first person to be hang drawn in quarter do you
- 11:06Speaker 1: mentioned was the pirate Maury's because he spoke at the
- 11:10Speaker 1: Pampatus of Love. That's right, that was back in twelve
- 11:13Speaker 1: forty one, right, that's right. And then of course William Wallace,
- 11:17Speaker 1: the Scottish rebel, he was drawn and quartered as depicted
- 11:20Speaker 1: in the Mel Gibson's snuff film Braveheart Um. And then
- 11:25Speaker 1: another very famous person who was sentenced to be drawn, hang,
- 11:29Speaker 1: drawn and quartered was Guy Fawx, the Catholic revolutionary who
- 11:33Speaker 1: was trying to blow up Parliament, but he escaped the
- 11:37Speaker 1: worst of it because he was clever enough to jump
- 11:40Speaker 1: down from the gallows head first and break his own neck,
- 11:43Speaker 1: so he he was already dead when they did the
- 11:46Speaker 1: worst of the stuff to him as part of his punishment. Yeah.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And eventually things might have turned when a naval clerk
- 11:53Speaker 1: named David Tyree was drawn and quartered because he had
- 11:57Speaker 1: a lot of press coverage. The rest of this stuff
- 11:59Speaker 1: is just there's not a ton of detail. But the
- 12:02Speaker 1: press really came out and wrote about what happened to Tyree,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and things seemed to have kind of turned after that
- 12:07Speaker 1: to a little bit more of a I don't know
- 12:10Speaker 1: if it was just like they figured that it was
- 12:14Speaker 1: too cruel to be doing, or if they just decided
- 12:17Speaker 1: it's just all takes too much time and it's a
- 12:19Speaker 1: little too much. We needed to sort of get on
- 12:21Speaker 1: with it. Kind of too extra sort of because uh
- 12:26Speaker 1: that there were five men convicted in the Cato Street conspiracy. Uh,
- 12:31Speaker 1: and they were sinance to be hanged, drawn and quartered,
- 12:34Speaker 1: but they ended up just hanging them, putting them up
- 12:37Speaker 1: there on the gallows and cutting their heads off and
- 12:39Speaker 1: saying can we just call it a day? Yeah. And
- 12:41Speaker 1: this guy that the House staff works article UM interviewed.
- 12:45Speaker 1: His name is Richard Clark. He runs the website Capital
- 12:48Speaker 1: Punishment uk UM. He says that part of the reason
- 12:52Speaker 1: why this went out of fashion was because, you know,
- 12:55Speaker 1: well to do Londoners started um gentrifying areas around New
- 12:59Speaker 1: Game Prison and Tyburn the public execution grounds, and they're
- 13:03Speaker 1: basically like, no, we don't really want you doing this
- 13:06Speaker 1: in our backyard. It really tends to bring out the
- 13:08Speaker 1: riff raff and the blood thirsty, and we kind of
- 13:11Speaker 1: want them over there. So they just did away with
- 13:13Speaker 1: it entirely in eighteen seventy. Yeah, that was it. That
- 13:17Speaker 1: was it for being hang drawn and quartered. Humanity took
- 13:21Speaker 1: one small step forward toward progressing to its ideal form.
- 13:26Speaker 1: And that's it for short stuff, right, what does that mean?
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