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VICKI'S HOUSE OF HORROR | RHOC Recap with Alexis Janssen · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love and Marriage franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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Speaker 2: Raindrops.
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Speaker 1: Alexis and I are back to talk about another episode.
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Speaker 1: Season 20 of The Real Housewives of Orange County. Listen,
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Speaker 1: go on YouTube. Again, subscribe to my YouTube channel. You
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Speaker 1: can see Alexis and.
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Speaker 2: I play it out.
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Speaker 1: Because we're actually, and this was not predicted, we're matching.
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Speaker 1: We're both wearing something sleeveless and black with bling.
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Speaker 3: It's the first time we haven't been Ebony and Ivory.
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Speaker 3: We're just Ebony. We're ebony with jewels, except my skin
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Speaker 3: is ivory. So, okay. Look at our getups. We did
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Speaker 3: not know this, Carlos.
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Speaker 2: It's so funny. Okay, you got.
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Speaker 3: Bigger, but see, I'm still waiting to arm wrestle you,
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Speaker 3: but yeah.
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Speaker 2: I know, listen, we definitely need to get an arm
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Speaker 2: wrestle going.
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Speaker 1: You look absolutely stunning as always.
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Speaker 4: You look good.
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Speaker 3: Your hair still looks very clean, like snatched like last week.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I got a cut yesterday.
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Speaker 1: It's funny because the raindrops are like, Alexis looks like
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Speaker 1: a teenager.
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Speaker 3: Are they saying that?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so then guess what? Everyone else can F off
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Speaker 3: that is like.
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Speaker 2: Why'd you pay the money for that facelift?
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Speaker 3: You didn't even look like you got anything done. I'm like, bitch,
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Speaker 3: you don't understand. That's what you want.
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Speaker 4: You want people to just think you got a really
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Speaker 4: good night's sleep. You don't want to look like you're
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Speaker 4: all like.
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Speaker 2: Oh, she beat her head. No, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: You, it's funny because, and that's a good point. Your
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Speaker 1: face lived, I mean, but I will agree with them.
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Speaker 2: I will say this. You know me.
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Speaker 1: You were already like, stunning right which is how we
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Speaker 1: viewed you and obviously you're in your own skin so
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Speaker 1: you know listen when you're living your own skin you're
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Speaker 1: you know like this can lose a little whatever but
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Speaker 1: you do not look unrecognizable and i think that's the
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Speaker 1: the point like facelift should not make you look like
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Speaker 1: a different person it should really do what you.
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Speaker 2: Said which is let it look like i got a
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Speaker 2: good night's sleep.
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Speaker 3: Which we never do, Carlos. Let's be real.
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Speaker 4: In 365 days, there might be one night when I
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Speaker 4: wake up one morning and I'm like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 4: I got the best night's.
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Speaker 3: Sleep of my life. Every other one, I'm like, okay.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 3: Shabby. I constantly have good sleep right now.
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Speaker 2: That's all. You look good, honey. We are awake because
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Speaker 2: guess what? This episode woke me up again. I feel like...
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Alexis. OC is back.
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Speaker 1: I am.
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Speaker 4: really loving it, but I do have some inside scoop about,
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Speaker 4: you know, I mean, so even though we have had
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Speaker 4: a very, you and.
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Speaker 3: I have felt it's been very boring.
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Speaker 4: Um, the ratings as you can, if you want to
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Speaker 4: Google or whatever, but you can find out the people
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Speaker 4: are still tuning in when I have been like, so
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Speaker 4: the ratings haven't dropped much.
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Speaker 3: However, now we're awake again. They got a facelift.
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Speaker 4: They're starting to, they're in the pre op mode of
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Speaker 4: a facelift.
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Speaker 2: Uh, And we're about to get there.
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Speaker 1: No, one thing I can say for sure is that
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Speaker 1: you called it. You said, Carlos, maybe it's a slow start.
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Speaker 1: You know, similar to Beverly Hills, things will pick up mid-season.
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Speaker 1: And I'm happy to say you were absolutely right. This
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Speaker 1: episode started off with the continuation of the girls at
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Speaker 1: Vicky's house look. I'm going to call it Vicky's House
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Speaker 1: of Horror. That's the episode title, right? Jamie, there you go.
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Speaker 1: Vicky's House of Horror. Because what ended last week was...
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Speaker 1: You know, Vicky's not happy. The girls are challenging her.
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Speaker 2: They're at her home, spending the night. Mike is not happy.
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Speaker 2: He comes out. You hear the Freddy Krueger, Blair Witch
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Speaker 2: Project music.
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Speaker 1: Then Vicky's yelling at Luke Nesledge, who's the showrunner of
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Speaker 1: the OC. You know, she's saying, get the fuck out
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Speaker 1: of my house. So apparently, Jen and Emily heard that.
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Speaker 1: So they're packing up their shit like she doesn't want
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Speaker 1: us here. Vicky comes in and she's like, what are
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Speaker 1: y'all doing? They're like, well, you're kicking us out, like
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Speaker 1: we're leaving. And she's like, no, I was talking.
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Speaker 2: About the crew. You guys can stay. And then they're
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Speaker 2: sort of like, huh?
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Speaker 1: But before we get to the kitchen moment, did you
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Speaker 1: take it like Vicky was talking about the crew?
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Speaker 3: In the moment, no, but I can believe that she
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Speaker 3: might have been.
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Speaker 4: But here's my question to you, and I know I'm
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Speaker 4: going to be the unpopular person right now, probably, which
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Speaker 4: I don't care. But I feel like the girls were–
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Speaker 4: Vicky kept giving several warnings, like, let's just put a
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Speaker 4: pin in this.
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Speaker 3: Let's just stop. You guys are on me. Like, let's
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Speaker 3: just stop and look.
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Speaker 2: It's over.
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Speaker 3: We're over it, you know?
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Speaker 2: Vicky, come here.
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Speaker 3: You want to be in the– you want to say hi? Okay,
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Speaker 3: everybody say hi to Vicky.
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Speaker 1: Hi, boo.
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Speaker 3: You started the podcast today, mom. I love it.
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Speaker 4: Okay. Anyway, I felt like I could understand why Vicky
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Speaker 4: is sitting there going, you know, guys, it's enough's enough.
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Speaker 4: It was kind of like picking. I felt like it
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Speaker 4: was picking. Although I can see where the girls are like,
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Speaker 4: we're just trying to have a conversation. So I see
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Speaker 4: both sides. But I also feel like everyone films.
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Speaker 3: They all know. So if it's like, okay, we had enough.
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Speaker 3: We beat this dead horse. Let's move on. Why didn't
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Speaker 3: they just move on?
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Speaker 2: Why didn't they just move on? Yeah. To your point, though.
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Speaker 2: And listen, I actually agree with you. I could see.
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Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be an unpopular vote.
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Speaker 2: No, hear me out. I do agree with you that look,
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Speaker 2: and this is me being a producer.
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Speaker 1: Housewives have definitely yelled to kick out the producers and
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Speaker 1: the production and the crew.
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Speaker 2: That is a true thing. When housewives say, get the
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Speaker 2: fuck out. Well, you're just done.
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Speaker 3: You're just done.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you.
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Speaker 1: Also have to realize, are you talking about the crew
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Speaker 1: or the cast or both? And that is the deciding
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Speaker 1: factor in all of this. So although Vicky said it
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Speaker 1: was the crew, I am inclined to give her the
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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt because in that moment as they're packing,
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Speaker 1: you can tell that.
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Speaker 2: She did not want them to leave.
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Speaker 5: I agree.
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Speaker 2: You're now like, there could also be this Carlos.
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Speaker 4: It could also have been, she said it in the moment.
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Speaker 4: Vicky was just frustrated and they're picking on her. She
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Speaker 4: could have said it in the moment and then not
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Speaker 4: meant it and then blamed it on the crew. But
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Speaker 4: at the same time, I do think she really just
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Speaker 4: wanted everybody out of the house. She just wanted to
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Speaker 4: enjoy her pizza and move on. I don't think, I
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Speaker 4: honestly don't think Vicky had like malice in her heart
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Speaker 4: to be like, everybody get.
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Speaker 3: The fuck out.
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Speaker 4: I think what she said, everybody could just get the
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Speaker 4: fuck out. I think she kind of, in my mind,
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Speaker 4: was meaning more of the crew.
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Speaker 2: I do too.
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Speaker 3: I really do.
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Speaker 2: I do too. I will say that. I will say that.
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Speaker 1: Which led Emily and Jen to then go in the kitchen. Shannon,
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Speaker 1: under her breath, whispers to Emily, like, if you have
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Speaker 1: to go, I understand. I have to stay. and talk
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Speaker 1: to her about this and I can't do it.
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Speaker 4: And Shannon didn't want to leave Vicki high and dry
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Speaker 4: with everybody leaving. She, but Shannon, I think could understand like, yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's uncomfortable. And I don't, I don't think we're going
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Speaker 4: to get back on track from this. So I, I
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Speaker 4: understand I wouldn't leave my best friend either. I wouldn't,
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Speaker 4: I would, I would be the one that would stay
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Speaker 4: right there and be, you know, the, the one that
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Speaker 4: would stay.
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Speaker 1: Especially after last week, Vicky called her out and said,
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Speaker 1: I felt like you did not have my back the
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Speaker 1: way I would have had yours or had have yours.
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Speaker 2: On the show.
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Speaker 1: Shannon knew not to leave Vicky. She's like, I'm not
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Speaker 1: leaving her. She's already mad at me.
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Speaker 2: Me leaving? Oh, forget about it. Like, we're done.
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Speaker 3: We're done.
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Speaker 2: So she knew she had to stay.
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Speaker 1: Jen was the one, to me, Alexis, that really encouraged
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Speaker 1: Emily to be like, let's just go. Like, why are
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Speaker 1: we sitting here talking about it? Like, Vicky doesn't want
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Speaker 1: to dress it. She wants us to eat, right? The
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Speaker 1: crew is here still filming us. And I understood Jen, too,
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Speaker 1: because the last thing you want to do is spend
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Speaker 1: the night over someone's house.
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Speaker 2: Feeling uncomfortable being there. It's not a good feeling.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 2: It's not. I know.
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Speaker 4: And I think if I, I try to put myself
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Speaker 4: in the situation and say what, what I've done, I
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Speaker 4: think I probably would have left too. Honestly, even the differences,
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Speaker 4: the difference is I'm closer to Vicki than Emily and
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Speaker 4: Gina are. So I probably, I would have been able
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Speaker 4: to stay and figured it out with Gina, with, with Vicki.
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Speaker 4: But I, if I were Gina and Emily, I probably
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Speaker 4: would have.
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Speaker 2: Jen and Emily.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 5: Jen and Emily.
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Speaker 2: Sorry.
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Speaker 3: Jen and Emily.
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Speaker 5: You're right.
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Speaker 3: I would have. I would have left.
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Speaker 4: I would have said, you know what, let's just let
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Speaker 4: Shannon and Vicki figure it out.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't know. It's very sticky, but you
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Speaker 3: know what? It made good TV.
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Speaker 4: I like when it's real and authentic, not something that
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Speaker 4: is kind of like they're trying to make something happen
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Speaker 4: for the camera, you know?
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Speaker 3: And this was definitely like, real.
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Speaker 5: It was a real thing.
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Speaker 2: No, it was a real moment. And I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: I would have also look, I am 99% sure Emily
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Speaker 2: and Jen did not pay $ 500 for the Uber. production paid.
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Speaker 3: No, production took them home.
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Speaker 2: Yes, okay.
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Speaker 4: You know what production might have even done is even
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Speaker 4: take them to a hotel because a hotel would have
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Speaker 4: cost more money.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they took their asses home.
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Speaker 2: They took... Production said, we got you, we'll.
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Speaker 5: Get you home.
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Speaker 2: Go home.
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Speaker 3: And production was probably like, thank you, we wanted to.
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Speaker 2: Go home too. We ain't got to stay overnight? Perfect.
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Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's all go home. So, I would have
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Speaker 2: done the same thing, especially because of this. And we....
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Speaker 1: We'll get more into this towards the end, but if
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Speaker 1: I'm a woman in this house and there's one guy
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Speaker 1: in it and that guy comes across a little scary and.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: First of all, I don't like when all the girls
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Speaker 4: were saying Mike was so mad. I saw no evidence
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Speaker 4: of that. Mike walked in his house and went straight
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Speaker 4: to his bedroom trying to stay out of filming and production.
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Speaker 3: I did not see or get where any of them
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Speaker 3: are saying.
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Speaker 2: Oh, he was so mad.
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Speaker 4: Guarantee you, the boom would have been on that door
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Speaker 4: with production if Mike was going off in that bedroom
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Speaker 4: and they.
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Speaker 3: Would have been listening to that. So I don't believe.
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Speaker 4: Mike was going off. I think the girls felt uncomfortable
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Speaker 4: because he was there. I think the girls felt uncomfortable
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Speaker 4: because Vicky was having an episode. But I'm not going
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Speaker 4: to let Mike take any of the downfall on this.
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Speaker 4: I do not think he was angry. I do not
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Speaker 4: think he had one thing. He was just trying to
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Speaker 4: stay out of everyone's way and figure it out. He
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Speaker 4: probably did say to Vicky when she said after that,
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Speaker 4: she goes, yeah, but you know, he just said, you're
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Speaker 4: such a nice person.
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Speaker 3: Why is this happening?
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Speaker 4: He doesn't really get the whole filming thing yet. He
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Speaker 4: doesn't understand a wraparound that we have to talk things out.
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Speaker 4: We have to be on when the cameras are there,
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Speaker 4: we have to be on. So he doesn't get all that,
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Speaker 4: but I don't think he was there.
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Speaker 3: Going, what the hell is happening? Why are these girls
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Speaker 3: in my house?
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Speaker 4: He knew they were going to be there. He knew
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Speaker 4: the team was going to, the production was going to
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Speaker 4: be there. He just simply scurried out of the way.
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Speaker 4: So I don't agree with what everyone.
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Speaker 3: When the girls are like, oh, Mike was there and
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Speaker 3: he was mad. Well, we would have seen evidence of
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Speaker 3: that because the production's not going to let that die.
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Speaker 2: Listen, this is very strange, once again. I agree with you.
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Speaker 5: Wow.
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Speaker 2: I agree.
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Speaker 3: We have to wear black and bling every week.
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Speaker 4: Because this is- Right.
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Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 3: When we match, you agree with me.
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Speaker 4: And when I don't- if I don't telepathically know what
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Speaker 4: Carlos is going to wear, he's going to disagree with me.
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Speaker 4: But if we dress the same on a podcast, okay,
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Speaker 4: got it.
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Speaker 3: I've got it.
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Speaker 2: There you go. There you go.
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Speaker 1: So to your point though, I, as a producer, I
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Speaker 1: agree that if he was acting out, we would have
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Speaker 1: shown it. How many times have you seen a, a,
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Speaker 1: a shot of a closed door and, and, and, and subtitles?
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Speaker 3: No, they're, they have the bone. They can hear it.
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Speaker 1: So then they're, yeah, they'll put it in there. So,
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Speaker 1: to your point, no. We, in Mike's defense, there was
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Speaker 1: no evidence of him being angry. Now, there's a thing
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Speaker 1: called energy. Now, could he have appeared to be a
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Speaker 1: little upset, whatever?
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Speaker 5: Sure, but....
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Speaker 1: I think as women, I do understand that this house
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Speaker 1: isn't just a girl's, you know, night out. There is
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Speaker 1: a guy there and, you know, they're hearing things about
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Speaker 1: him popping up out of nowhere on trips and everything.
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Speaker 1: So I'm just saying I do understand.
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Speaker 2: Why they felt uncomfortable. And you and I both agree,
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Speaker 2: we would have left. And I would have. Yeah.
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Speaker 4: A guy being at a girl's retreat does kind of
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Speaker 4: change the– not that it could even be negative, but
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Speaker 4: it does change the energy. It is kind of like, okay,
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Speaker 4: this isn't girl's time. We can't just have girl talk
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Speaker 4: now because what if he does hear one of the
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Speaker 4: things we say and we want to talk about something
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Speaker 4: that we don't really want a guy to hear?
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Speaker 3: Like, it's girl time.
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Speaker 4: It's just like with guys. Guys want to be with
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Speaker 4: guys sometimes and girls want to be with girls sometimes.
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Speaker 4: I don't fault Mike for being there.
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Speaker 3: It is his house.
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Speaker 4: It is odd that he's been at all the girls' things, though.
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Speaker 4: That's kind of awkward or weird.
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Speaker 3: But– But I don't fault him for wanting to be at.
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Speaker 4: His house when he's coming back from working. I mean,
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Speaker 4: he's not going to stop his life for production.
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Speaker 3: He's just not. He's not getting paid. Vicky is.
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Speaker 4: Vicky has to do her job. But I think Mike
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Speaker 4: should be able to do what he wants. But I
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Speaker 4: do think that whether he was in a bad mood,
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Speaker 4: a happy mood, or whatever mood, I think they took
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Speaker 4: his walking into the room and trying to get out
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Speaker 4: of everybody's way.
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Speaker 3: As a bad mood.
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Speaker 4: And I think he was in a definite no-win situation
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Speaker 4: because it didn't change the girl's minds on how they
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Speaker 4: were going to start, like, film the rest of the scene.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: And that's the reason why I totally understand why they
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Speaker 1: felt the need to leave.
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Speaker 2: And they left. And they left.
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Speaker 1: So then, after that, the girls are meeting separately. You
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Speaker 1: have Tamara meeting with Jen. And then you have Shannon, Emily, Carmella.
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Speaker 2: Was Jen at... No, no, no. Jen was with Tamara.
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Speaker 3: It was Shannon, Emily, Carmella... Who was the fourth one?
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't the fourth one.
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Speaker 3: Well, there was four seats. We wouldn't both forget the fourth.
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Speaker 2: It was only three. Three of them.
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Speaker 5: It was three, right?
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Speaker 2: I'm like, because Gina wasn't. Jamie, are we confused? Text me.
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Speaker 2: Gina wasn't there. Nope. And Heather wasn't there.
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Speaker 3: It was the three of them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: The fourth seat was empty.
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Speaker 2: Okay. Thank you. We are so confused by the fourth seat.
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Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King.
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Speaker 5: And I'm Carlos King.
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Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So, Tamara obviously wants to hear what happened with Jen.
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Speaker 1: And then Emily, Shannon, and Carmella are talking about what happened.
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Speaker 1: In this moment, Gina, not Gina, Emily is talking to
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Speaker 1: Carmella about, like, Vickie. and what Vicky said about her
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Speaker 1: in the car. And they flash back to it, where
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Speaker 1: Vicky pretty much is telling Shannon that when it comes
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Speaker 1: to Danny having an affair, she needs to get over.
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Speaker 2: It, pretty much. That putting your.
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Speaker 1: Dick in someone else is bad, but, you know, what else?
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Speaker 1: Pretty much there's other things that's worse.
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Speaker 2: So... Before we get to the breaking news that happened
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Speaker 2: over 24 hours ago.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 3: I knew you were going to go there.
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Speaker 2: Let's go there, girl. So, Carmella's offended by it. Rightfully so.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I thought it was rich of Vicky to say that
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Speaker 1: to Shannon because I always felt that Shannon, it took
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Speaker 1: Shannon a long time to get past what David Bedore
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Speaker 1: did to her, which is cheated on her.
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Speaker 2: And it took years for Shannon to get over that.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying there's an expiration date for any
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Speaker 1: woman to get past cheating, especially when you're married, right,
17:35
Speaker 1: and have children together.
17:36
Speaker 4: Right.
17:37
Speaker 1: But for Vicky to say that to Shannon, I did think, like,
17:45
Speaker 1: how rich... Because Shannon is what was, was actually worse
17:50
Speaker 1: to me.
17:51
Speaker 4: Well, what I don't, what I'm trying, what I've tried
17:54
Speaker 4: to do with Carmela or even with, so I've never
17:57
Speaker 4: been cheated on.
17:58
Speaker 3: So it's hard to knock on wood, you know, like,
18:02
Speaker 3: like Jesus for this.
18:03
Speaker 5: Right.
18:03
Speaker 4: But, but if you put yourself in someone's shoes like that,
18:08
Speaker 4: I have often done that because you feel for your
18:11
Speaker 4: friends or you feel for someone that you hear that
18:13
Speaker 4: has had it happen.
18:14
Speaker 3: It's like, no one knows how you would react when
18:17
Speaker 3: you have, if.
18:18
Speaker 4: You've been with someone for 10 years, I think Carmela
18:20
Speaker 4: is justified for how she's trying to handle it, trying
18:22
Speaker 4: to get over it. Although we now know it's ended,
18:24
Speaker 4: which is what you were talking about happened in the
18:26
Speaker 4: last 24 hours, which we will get to, but she's
18:29
Speaker 4: justified in the fact that it's like, I'm going to
18:30
Speaker 4: keep trying until I know I just can't anymore.
18:32
Speaker 3: And I cannot get over it.
18:34
Speaker 4: And, but I also don't like other people judging how
18:36
Speaker 4: someone is behaving when they've had it happen to them,
18:39
Speaker 4: unless they've had it happen to them.
18:40
Speaker 3: So like, there could be no judging on mine and
18:42
Speaker 3: your part. Well, you have been cheated on. You have.
18:44
Speaker 2: Okay.
18:44
Speaker 3: So, but, but, For me, I can't. I can't.
18:47
Speaker 4: I cannot really judge on anybody's reactions because I've never...
18:51
Speaker 4: I can just say I can feel for them. And,
18:55
Speaker 4: you know, I think Vicky was a little bit harsh.
18:58
Speaker 4: And I think you're right to say how rich for
19:00
Speaker 4: that situation. But has Vicky been cheated on?
19:03
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. She's had some pretty.
19:06
Speaker 2: She said... She did say Steve cheated on her.
19:10
Speaker 5: Oh, Steve.
19:10
Speaker 2: Okay. It was Steve.
19:11
Speaker 4: Because I was like, I know Brooks did it, even
19:12
Speaker 4: though he did something kind of worse.
19:15
Speaker 3: Um, and, and then I know Don didn't.
19:17
Speaker 1: So, okay.
19:18
Speaker 3: It was Steve.
19:18
Speaker 2: Yeah. Steve, Steve cheated on her. Allegedly. I want to,
19:22
Speaker 2: cause he hasn't come on set.
19:23
Speaker 5: Right.
19:24
Speaker 2: Oh, well, our friend said, um.
19:28
Speaker 1: He did see Steve and Porta Velote with another woman.
19:33
Speaker 2: Hmm.
19:36
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that.
19:39
Speaker 4: I feel sorry for any woman that's next to John
19:42
Speaker 4: Jansen because that woman's going to have a problem.
19:46
Speaker 3: Well, John, but the girl's going to.
19:49
Speaker 5: No.
19:50
Speaker 2: I'm like Kyle Richards. Get off my husband. If I
19:53
Speaker 2: see anybody... When.
19:54
Speaker 1: Kyle said, what are you doing? Get off of my
19:57
Speaker 1: husband and kick off the party. That's the type of
19:59
Speaker 1: shit that I would do. Get the fuck off my man.
20:04
Speaker 1: But yeah, so breaking news is the fact that Carmella
20:08
Speaker 1: and Dani have called it quits. She mentioned it on
20:12
Speaker 1: page six is virtual reality. Shout out to my friends
20:16
Speaker 1: over there who host the show.
20:19
Speaker 3: And Watch What Happens.
20:20
Speaker 4: Live last night. She divulged also there. And she was
20:24
Speaker 4: great on Watch What Happens Live, Carlos. You know, we
20:26
Speaker 4: love her. And it just made me love her even
20:28
Speaker 4: more on Watch What Happens Live.
20:30
Speaker 3: So, yeah.
20:30
Speaker 2: Love her.
20:32
Speaker 1: She said that I feel a range of emotions. The
20:37
Speaker 1: breakup happened months ago. She said, I feel sad. It
20:41
Speaker 1: was a 10-year relationship. It was somebody that was around
20:46
Speaker 1: my children, but at the end of the day, I
20:49
Speaker 1: needed to put myself first.
20:53
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
20:54
Speaker 1: No, no, go.
20:55
Speaker 3: No, go.
20:57
Speaker 1: She said it was difficult because she did love him deeply,
21:01
Speaker 1: but oftentimes she ignored her intuition and there was just
21:05
Speaker 1: something deep down That felt like she just couldn't trust it.
21:11
Speaker 1: And the dishonesty just continued.
21:16
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say.
21:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
21:18
Speaker 3: She brought that up at Watch What Happens Live.
21:19
Speaker 4: It was about the fact that she's very careful with
21:21
Speaker 4: her words. You can tell she loved him and probably
21:24
Speaker 4: still loves him. And you don't just get over it
21:25
Speaker 4: like that 10 years later. 10 years.
21:28
Speaker 3: In years.
21:29
Speaker 4: You don't get over it. You don't just say, oh,
21:30
Speaker 4: my God, I don't love him anymore. I think she's
21:32
Speaker 4: been falling out of love the past year from what
21:35
Speaker 4: I've been viewing on the TV show, which I know
21:37
Speaker 4: it's just a show. But I think that she definitely
21:41
Speaker 4: still cares about him because she chose her words very carefully,
21:44
Speaker 4: but yet she was very honest, which I respect. And
21:47
Speaker 4: she just said, you know, the lies just didn't stop.
21:51
Speaker 4: They just, they were still like, and.
21:52
Speaker 3: You can pick up on, and the little lies would
21:54
Speaker 3: make me even more mad than the big lies.
21:55
Speaker 4: It's like the little lies are like, why are you
21:57
Speaker 4: lying about what color your underwear or what?
22:00
Speaker 2: It's scary.
22:01
Speaker 3: It's weird. What did you have eggs for breakfast? No,
22:04
Speaker 3: I had avocado toast. Well, I saw the eggs that
22:06
Speaker 3: you had in the frying pan.
22:07
Speaker 4: It's like, why would you lie about that?
22:11
Speaker 5: I get it.
22:12
Speaker 4: You're with a woman and you're trying to cover up your,
22:14
Speaker 4: your tracks, but like, gosh, you know.
22:18
Speaker 1: No, listen, and even when you saw them at dinner, right?
22:25
Speaker 2: Like, their one-on-one scene, Carmella and.
22:28
Speaker 1: Danny, and that scene, it's funny because if they weren't
22:34
Speaker 1: broken up, that scene let me know that they needed to.
22:39
Speaker 2: And I said this to you, remember, weeks ago? Yes. Right, Alexis?
22:43
Speaker 3: You are so right.
22:46
Speaker 2: Yes.
22:47
Speaker 4: It was awkward it was uncomfortable I was like I
22:50
Speaker 4: didn't even want to watch it because I'm like they
22:51
Speaker 4: both just need to go home and like go to
22:53
Speaker 4: separate bedrooms like like it's like they were it was
22:56
Speaker 4: it was it was obvious he was trying and it
22:59
Speaker 4: was obvious she was just kind of checked out.
23:03
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna say that may be controversial because
23:07
Speaker 1: we're only basing their situation off of what we're.
23:11
Speaker 3: Being shown thank you that's actually very fair to say.
23:14
Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear I'm only basing
23:16
Speaker 1: this off of what we're being shown You know, we know.
23:20
Speaker 2: There's hours of footage. We see five minutes of it.
23:23
Speaker 1: So based on that one scene, and I already said
23:27
Speaker 1: this weeks ago, I said, Carmela, just leave him.
23:30
Speaker 2: Like, it's evident you're not over it. I'm not saying
23:34
Speaker 2: you should be over it.
23:35
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you're making matters worse for yourself staying
23:38
Speaker 1: in this situation and you're not over it. I am
23:43
Speaker 1: curious what the dishonesty is. Because she keeps saying it
23:49
Speaker 1: without providing real examples.
23:52
Speaker 3: Well, I watched Watch What Happened last night.
23:54
Speaker 2: So that's the thing.
23:55
Speaker 3: I have a little bit more to give to you.
23:58
Speaker 3: But this is what I'm saying. She chose her words carefully.
24:01
Speaker 4: It does have something to do with another female. From
24:06
Speaker 4: what I gathered from, it's okay. Do you hear my
24:10
Speaker 4: dog barking?
24:11
Speaker 2: I heard him a little bit, but it's fine.
24:13
Speaker 4: Well, we can, I don't know, sweetie. There's something under
24:15
Speaker 4: the bed or something. She loves, we're babysitting our granddaughter, Rue.
24:20
Speaker 4: And so there's something, she finds a bone. I swear
24:22
Speaker 4: to God, it could be hidden five feet deep in
24:25
Speaker 4: my underwear drawer and she'll find the bone.
24:27
Speaker 2: She's barking because there's one.
24:28
Speaker 4: Way under the bed that one of the dogs probably lost.
24:33
Speaker 4: She's like, I'm not going to stop barking until someone
24:35
Speaker 4: gets me that damn bone. She's so cute.
24:38
Speaker 3: Anyway, we have four dogs in the house right now.
24:41
Speaker 3: It's kind of chaos. It's like we have two blackies
24:44
Speaker 3: and it's like, we are, it is like, hello.
24:46
Speaker 1: Okay.
24:46
Speaker 4: Um, anyway, so she said something about he, it was
24:51
Speaker 4: something about a realist or someone he was working with.
24:53
Speaker 3: And so she goes, well, did you date? And then he,
24:56
Speaker 3: and then, or was this on the show? I don't
24:58
Speaker 3: know if it.
24:58
Speaker 2: Was on the show.
24:59
Speaker 3: So then I'm watching what happens live.
25:01
Speaker 4: She just made him another innuendo to the fact that
25:04
Speaker 4: it had to do with the fact that there was,
25:08
Speaker 4: she didn't use the word infidelity, but in my mind,
25:10
Speaker 4: that's where she was kind of, what she was saying
25:12
Speaker 4: was taking you to there. She felt unsafe with some
25:15
Speaker 4: things he had some choices he had made.
25:17
Speaker 3: Oh, so yeah. And I, and I respect that.
25:21
Speaker 4: And I, you know, what I respect the most is
25:23
Speaker 4: that she's not just throwing out his dirty laundry.
25:26
Speaker 3: You know, she's, she's kind of keeping it close to
25:28
Speaker 3: the chest.
25:28
Speaker 4: She is kind of saying enough to let people understand
25:30
Speaker 4: what's happening, but she's not bashing him. She's not giving details.
25:34
Speaker 4: She's just saying, I finally, I finally figured out it
25:37
Speaker 4: was just time for me to let go.
25:41
Speaker 1: It's interesting because, like you said, at the dinner table,
25:45
Speaker 1: she did mention that there was this real estate agent.
25:48
Speaker 1: He was working a female. And she did ask him, like,
25:52
Speaker 1: do you have history?
25:53
Speaker 2: He goes, no. He denied it.
25:55
Speaker 4: And he goes, oh, I took her on one. But
25:57
Speaker 4: I did take her on one date. And so then
25:58
Speaker 4: Carmel's like, oh, you do have history then. See, that's
26:00
Speaker 4: where it would mess your psyche as a female. Or
26:03
Speaker 4: maybe even a male, you can tell me. That would
26:05
Speaker 4: mess with my mind.
26:06
Speaker 3: That would mess with my mind. Because you're like, I
26:08
Speaker 3: just asked you.
26:09
Speaker 4: Taking someone on a date is history. Is a step
26:12
Speaker 4: above being friends? No. Taking someone on a date is
26:16
Speaker 4: moving in a direction or having some kind of a
26:18
Speaker 4: past with someone.
26:21
Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. I get it.
26:25
Speaker 1: And I do believe that one of the main reasons
26:32
Speaker 1: she wanted it to work out was because of the
26:34
Speaker 1: relationship he had with her kids.
26:37
Speaker 3: Uh-huh. I got that too.
26:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:39
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:40
Speaker 3: I got that too.
26:41
Speaker 1: And I think for her, she did not want her
26:47
Speaker 1: kids to be without, in her mind, to me, a
26:53
Speaker 1: father figure of someone they like. Because one thing she
26:57
Speaker 1: said about Danny, and that's why, listen, you can tell
27:01
Speaker 1: she still loves him and respects him because she said,
27:06
Speaker 1: my kids love him. And I think when your kids
27:09
Speaker 1: love somebody, It does. First of all, it's a great thing.
27:14
Speaker 1: But when you are falling out of love based on
27:18
Speaker 1: not trusting him, it's hard to leave him because your
27:21
Speaker 1: kids love him so much. And what man is okay, right,
27:27
Speaker 1: with being like, go do your thing. I'll stay home
27:29
Speaker 1: with the kids and watch them. So I understood why
27:33
Speaker 1: she was conflicted.
27:34
Speaker 4: You know, my engagement before John, my ex was my kids.
27:40
Speaker 4: It was really hard when I left him because two
27:43
Speaker 4: of my three were very distraught and upset. And it
27:46
Speaker 4: made it so much harder for me because they did
27:49
Speaker 4: look at him as a true father figure. Like he
27:52
Speaker 4: taught them how to ski. His dad, their dad didn't.
27:54
Speaker 4: He taught them how to do water sports. We went
27:58
Speaker 4: to the winter. He really invested his time with my
28:02
Speaker 4: kids and vice versa. So it's really hard when it
28:05
Speaker 4: makes it five times harder to end a relationship when
28:08
Speaker 4: you know you're like damaging or hurting your children also.
28:12
Speaker 3: Because I didn't just.
28:13
Speaker 4: Bring any man around, you know, like a lot of
28:15
Speaker 4: people recycle girls and boys through the door with their kids.
28:18
Speaker 4: I met two guys I ever talked to in my
28:21
Speaker 4: entire life since my divorce. So, and it was because
28:23
Speaker 4: I thought I was going to marry the first one
28:25
Speaker 4: and then didn't. And then, you know, I married the
28:26
Speaker 4: second one. So it's like only when it was going
28:28
Speaker 4: to be a legitimate, true relationship that I knew was
28:32
Speaker 4: going to go far. So for Carmela, a 10-year, I
28:35
Speaker 4: feel like you're already almost married. And so those poor
28:37
Speaker 4: kids are in love with him also as a father figure,
28:41
Speaker 4: you know? So hopefully they don't– like my kids still
28:44
Speaker 4: know they can text Drew if they wanted to or
28:46
Speaker 4: vice versa, you know, whatever. It's like you don't just
28:49
Speaker 4: lose that– I mean it kind of– you know, now
28:50
Speaker 4: they've kind of outgrown it because it's been– six years
28:53
Speaker 4: or five years or whatever.
28:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the good thing is they have the option
28:58
Speaker 1: if they wanted to.
28:59
Speaker 4: That's what I hope Carmella and Danny have done with
29:03
Speaker 4: her kids because they were so invested with him.
29:06
Speaker 3: I hope that they do still reach out.
29:08
Speaker 4: I mean, Carmella said last night on Watch What Happens,
29:11
Speaker 4: she hasn't talked to him in months. So in my mind,
29:14
Speaker 4: I'm hoping that that doesn't stand true for the kids.
29:16
Speaker 4: If they want to go get ice cream with Danny,
29:17
Speaker 4: I hope that they can.
29:18
Speaker 2: I hope so too.
29:20
Speaker 1: And based on what we've seen, so far on the
29:23
Speaker 1: show of Carmella being a mother, I think she will
29:26
Speaker 1: encourage that.
29:27
Speaker 2: I think she'll be fine with it.
29:28
Speaker 1: Like, and again, she hasn't said he cheated on her, but- But- They.
29:35
Speaker 4: Knew the windows last night though. I'm letting you know
29:37
Speaker 4: a little bit. Maybe not to the cheating, but to
29:40
Speaker 4: the fact that she did not trust some things. He,
29:43
Speaker 4: some choices he was making is what, so I don't
29:45
Speaker 4: want to speak for her and I'm very respectful of
29:47
Speaker 4: the fact that she's keeping things close to the chest,
29:49
Speaker 4: but she did leave lead on it. Watch what happens
29:51
Speaker 4: last night that it was something towards the fact of
29:55
Speaker 4: just not trusting some of the decisions he had made. Yeah.
29:59
Speaker 2: And look, it could have been some inappropriate stuff.
30:01
Speaker 1: And I, texting, certain language, texting or photos, like, I
30:08
Speaker 1: think that's just as bad.
30:10
Speaker 4: I just think anytime you're in a relationship, if your
30:15
Speaker 4: significant other does not know, like, if I was going
30:18
Speaker 4: to text anyone, even my ex-husband, if I even text
30:21
Speaker 4: Jim or talk to Jim, I let John know.
30:23
Speaker 3: It's just like, why not? And it's just in lighthearted, like, hey,
30:27
Speaker 3: I just, you know, we were talking about this or that.
30:28
Speaker 2: It's a courtesy.
30:30
Speaker 3: Why not be an open book?
30:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:32
Speaker 3: And if you don't have anything to hide, then just
30:34
Speaker 3: talk about it. It's called communication. It makes you feel
30:36
Speaker 3: closer to your spouse. It makes your spouse feel closer
30:39
Speaker 3: to you or partner.
30:40
Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that if things are left out,
30:44
Speaker 4: it definitely leaves room for distrust to start to creep in.
30:51
Speaker 1: Do you think he meant it when he told Carmela
30:56
Speaker 1: he wanted to marry her?
30:57
Speaker 2: I do. I do.
30:58
Speaker 5: Me too.
30:59
Speaker 2: Me too.
31:01
Speaker 4: I think Danny was all in and it was trying
31:03
Speaker 4: his hardest to move. I just think he couldn't, he
31:06
Speaker 4: can't meet it. He's not, I get the feeling and
31:10
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I hate talking about this because I
31:12
Speaker 4: know it's just five snippets, you know, five minutes of
31:14
Speaker 4: hours of filming that we get to see. My feeling
31:17
Speaker 4: is Danny's just not ready to really commit to one woman,
31:21
Speaker 4: even though he wants to.
31:23
Speaker 3: I just feel that he's just not ready.
31:25
Speaker 4: He's just not that, maybe he's never going to be this,
31:28
Speaker 4: the monogamous, like one woman, man, or, I mean, cause
31:31
Speaker 4: if you want to, if you want to tell little
31:33
Speaker 4: white lies about little things and you're not really devoted
31:35
Speaker 4: to that human, you know.
31:38
Speaker 1: And it's also a situation to where I understand why
31:42
Speaker 1: I would have concern. And again, that scene, she was
31:46
Speaker 1: so over him. She kept making digs. She, she was
31:50
Speaker 1: so did pan and, And I'm happy for her that
31:55
Speaker 1: she's away from him because I do feel like the
31:58
Speaker 1: healing starts now.
31:59
Speaker 3: Right.
32:01
Speaker 1: Speaking of healing, though, Travis and Gina are talking about
32:05
Speaker 1: their future together, buying a house together, $ 3 million of
32:13
Speaker 1: a house.
32:19
Speaker 5: What?
32:20
Speaker 4: I don't know where you're going with this. You're looking
32:22
Speaker 4: at me like I'm supposed to read your mind on
32:23
Speaker 4: this one.
32:24
Speaker 3: I can't read your mind.
32:24
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
32:25
Speaker 1: It was interesting because they're like, oh, let's move it together.
32:30
Speaker 1: And by her being a real estate agent and the
32:32
Speaker 1: house is $ 3 million and she's like, look, we can
32:34
Speaker 1: do it, but it may hurt us. And I just
32:37
Speaker 1: don't want, listen, this is my hope for Gina because
32:39
Speaker 1: I really do like Gina. I really like her. I
32:43
Speaker 1: don't want Gina to be that housewife that lives beyond
32:49
Speaker 1: her means just because you're on TV.
32:53
Speaker 5: Yeah.
32:53
Speaker 4: Because I was kind of what, what kind of turned
32:55
Speaker 4: my ears like to go perk a little.
32:57
Speaker 3: Why can't you afford a house and a wedding? I
33:00
Speaker 3: don't get it.
33:00
Speaker 4: Like if you, if you have enough to afford a
33:01
Speaker 4: $ 3 million home, then you have enough to put a couple,
33:04
Speaker 4: you know, 30, 50, a hundred grand on a wedding.
33:07
Speaker 3: Like I don't get, I don't get that. I was,
33:09
Speaker 3: I was a little bit like, I don't know.
33:12
Speaker 2: I don't know.
33:13
Speaker 4: You're right. So don't leave behind your, maybe they need
33:15
Speaker 4: to be in the $ 1. 5 million home, which you can't.
33:17
Speaker 2: That's my point.
33:18
Speaker 3: You can only get an apartment over here in OC, Carlos.
33:20
Speaker 3: I don't know what it's like.
33:21
Speaker 4: Where you live, but you can only get a little
33:22
Speaker 4: bitty shindig apartment for 1.5 right now in OC.
33:26
Speaker 2: Move to Atlanta.
33:28
Speaker 3: Honey, I might be packing my bags.
33:30
Speaker 1: I don't know.
33:31
Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
33:31
Speaker 4: Because I'd have to bring, you know, all six kids
33:33
Speaker 4: plus their significance.
33:36
Speaker 2: 14 of us moving to Atlanta. And the four dogs
33:38
Speaker 2: at the house right now. Oh, good God.
33:40
Speaker 4: No, between the dogs, we have like eight dogs between
33:42
Speaker 4: our whole family. Eight dogs and 14 humans. We're not
33:45
Speaker 4: moving to Atlanta.
33:45
Speaker 5: Not doing it.
33:50
Speaker 1: But I think to your point, listen, the state of California, expensive.
33:55
Speaker 1: Orange County, to find a decent home, it is at
33:58
Speaker 1: least $ 3 million. Yes, Gina has been on the show
34:02
Speaker 1: for seven years.
34:03
Speaker 2: I just.
34:05
Speaker 1: And listen, obviously when it comes to Travis, we don't
34:09
Speaker 1: know exactly what that looks like in terms of financial.
34:13
Speaker 1: But I was like you. It was very confusing because...
34:18
Speaker 1: I like her so much that I want her to
34:22
Speaker 1: choose one thing over the other first. Like the house
34:28
Speaker 1: you're in now, just stay there and get married and
34:32
Speaker 1: then maybe move.
34:33
Speaker 2: Or, you know, get the house first.
34:36
Speaker 1: But I just think it's one of those things where
34:40
Speaker 1: If you can't afford it, don't do it. When she
34:42
Speaker 1: talked about like your first wedding, your parents paid for it.
34:45
Speaker 1: Your second wedding is all on you. Then get married
34:48
Speaker 1: at the justice of the peace.
34:50
Speaker 3: That's the other thing I was going to say.
34:51
Speaker 5: Exactly.
34:52
Speaker 3: Why can't they just go get hitched? I mean, because
34:54
Speaker 3: if you want to be married, you're going to find
34:56
Speaker 3: a way to do it. That's the thing. It's like,
34:57
Speaker 3: what is your priority? What is your top priority? If
34:59
Speaker 3: you want to be married, you're going to get married.
35:01
Speaker 4: Whether it's a quick wedding at the justice of the
35:03
Speaker 4: peace and then you throw a little party. If you
35:05
Speaker 4: don't do the whole wedding, you could throw a very
35:08
Speaker 4: fabulous party. for a lot less if you don't do
35:12
Speaker 4: the whole ceremony and do all the wedding gown and all,
35:14
Speaker 4: I mean, your wedding gowns are, you know.
35:15
Speaker 3: $ 5, 000.
35:16
Speaker 4: To $ 10, 000. So it's like, you can do a lot.
35:21
Speaker 3: Without all that.
35:21
Speaker 4: So that would be where my first mindset would go
35:25
Speaker 4: if I were in her shoes.
35:27
Speaker 3: And then I would get the house. Then you can
35:28
Speaker 3: have both.
35:29
Speaker 2: You can have both. You can have both. You can
35:31
Speaker 2: have both.
35:32
Speaker 1: It was just for me, a bunch of red flags.
35:35
Speaker 2: I'm like, Gina, don't do it. You're not having the bro.
35:38
Speaker 2: Emily Simpson, her husband's a lawyer.
35:41
Speaker 1: Not only that, his family has so much money that
35:47
Speaker 1: they're good. Gina, you just bounced back on your feet.
35:51
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. You got your license. You're learning
35:54
Speaker 1: how to grow your real estate business.
35:57
Speaker 2: Do not fucking do it.
35:59
Speaker 4: Do you think there's any part of you that feels
36:05
Speaker 4: that They just are trying to find reasons not to
36:10
Speaker 4: get married and just to stay engaged.
36:12
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because when she said that me and
36:17
Speaker 1: Travis will get married before Jen and Ryan. So I
36:22
Speaker 1: don't think, I think that, you know, I love Jen,
36:26
Speaker 1: but I got to be honest. I think that more
36:28
Speaker 1: about Jen and Ryan.
36:31
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't.
36:31
Speaker 3: No, but you know what?
36:32
Speaker 4: They made a date because she was on, she was
36:34
Speaker 4: on an interview somewhere or watch what happens.
36:36
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe.
36:37
Speaker 4: So she said, we made a date. They have a date.
36:40
Speaker 4: They're getting married on a boat coming up soon on
36:43
Speaker 4: a boat for supposedly.
36:44
Speaker 1: Yes.
36:44
Speaker 2: This year or next year.
36:47
Speaker 3: That was not disclosed.
36:48
Speaker 2: Okay.
36:49
Speaker 3: It was, it must've been on watch what happens. Cause
36:50
Speaker 3: you don't watch those. And I do.
36:51
Speaker 4: Cause otherwise you would have recollected this from the show. Um,
36:55
Speaker 4: It must have been on Watch What Happens. And she said, well,
36:57
Speaker 4: we did set a date.
36:58
Speaker 2: And we did.
36:58
Speaker 3: And Andy did not push, which I was kind of like,
37:01
Speaker 3: I almost texted Andy. I'd be like, well, get the date.
37:03
Speaker 2: Like, hello, Andy.
37:04
Speaker 4: You know, because sometimes he sees his phone, his text.
37:06
Speaker 4: But I didn't act quick enough. And then that was over. But, oh,
37:10
Speaker 4: I also watched it recorded.
37:12
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have mattered.
37:12
Speaker 4: I watched it recorded, not live. But anyway, she did
37:16
Speaker 4: say we did set a date.
37:17
Speaker 3: We have a date. So Jen and Ryan are going
37:19
Speaker 3: to beat them to the.
37:20
Speaker 4: Altar, it sounds like.
37:21
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm going to turn the tables on you.
37:24
Speaker 1: Do you think Travis and Gina are doing all of
37:29
Speaker 1: this because maybe subconsciously they don't want to marry each other?
37:36
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say it like this.
37:38
Speaker 4: I feel like, okay, remember only a couple seasons ago
37:44
Speaker 4: they broke up and she kicked him out and they
37:46
Speaker 4: moved out and the next season they were getting engaged.
37:50
Speaker 3: So to me, it's like.
37:53
Speaker 4: How much is produced and like what they're trying to
37:54
Speaker 4: do to stay on the show and how much is real.
37:56
Speaker 3: That is kind of, I'm being honest now. I'm being
37:58
Speaker 3: really honest. I do like that.
37:59
Speaker 2: I love it.
38:00
Speaker 3: I do hope that they, I do hope that they
38:03
Speaker 3: do move forward with that.
38:03
Speaker 4: But in my mind, I'm kind of like, I just
38:06
Speaker 4: don't know because I just feel like there's always a
38:09
Speaker 4: reason or an excuse or they've got this going.
38:11
Speaker 3: Or they're, you know, I don't know. I really don't know.
38:15
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
38:19
Speaker 1: Um, uh, This is, I gotta be honest, fuck. I
38:25
Speaker 1: do feel this way too. When I see Travis and Gina,
38:29
Speaker 1: I don't see sparks.
38:31
Speaker 2: I don't. And I never have. More of like a
38:34
Speaker 2: best friendship.
38:35
Speaker 3: More of like a best friendship.
38:36
Speaker 2: Oh, you took the word.
38:38
Speaker 4: And we're doing this on the show because it's keeping us,
38:41
Speaker 4: we have, you know, because.
38:43
Speaker 3: Here's my deal.
38:44
Speaker 4: Who would, who would, I don't know a man that
38:48
Speaker 4: would allow his, girlfriend to kick him out and, and say,
38:53
Speaker 4: I need space.
38:54
Speaker 3: I don't want to live together. I don't like that.
38:56
Speaker 4: I can pay this for my kids and I can't
38:57
Speaker 4: pay it for yours too. But then six months later
39:00
Speaker 4: or less, they're filming again.
39:02
Speaker 3: And then all of a.
39:03
Speaker 4: Sudden they're getting engaged. I just, none of it makes,
39:06
Speaker 4: none of it makes like realistic sense to me, but
39:11
Speaker 4: I'm here for it because it doesn't.
39:11
Speaker 3: Make good TV. So I'm here for it.
39:14
Speaker 2: What did you think about the ring?
39:17
Speaker 4: I mean, I like, I always told you, I have
39:19
Speaker 4: no problem with someone making a prototype when you're trying
39:21
Speaker 4: to surprise the wife.
39:22
Speaker 3: Like John and I picked out my ring together.
39:24
Speaker 4: If he was going to provide me with a ring,
39:26
Speaker 4: I would hope he would have done a prototype first
39:28
Speaker 4: to make sure that I loved it. Because if I didn't,
39:30
Speaker 4: I'm stuck with it. And then I'd be like, okay,
39:32
Speaker 4: but I love you and I'll take it. But I
39:34
Speaker 4: have no problem with a prototype. And then I liked
39:37
Speaker 4: the six diamonds in honor of the six kids. So
39:39
Speaker 4: I thought it was great.
39:42
Speaker 3: What did you think?
39:44
Speaker 2: Same thing.
39:45
Speaker 1: I thought it was a cute gesture. It gave best
39:47
Speaker 1: friend tease. I think they're best friends. I think they're
39:51
Speaker 1: best friends.
39:53
Speaker 3: In all honesty, you want to be best friends with
39:55
Speaker 3: your partner. I'm best friends with John.
39:56
Speaker 2: For sure. They just don't.
39:59
Speaker 3: You mean the spark.
40:00
Speaker 5: The spark. There's no spark.
40:02
Speaker 1: I know that you and John are doing it under
40:04
Speaker 1: the table. You know, like, I know you guys are.
40:08
Speaker 2: I know when you walk past John, he's grabbing. When
40:10
Speaker 2: you walk past John, he's grabbing your ass.
40:13
Speaker 3: This is true.
40:14
Speaker 2: You know, and you're like, oh, oh, oh.
40:18
Speaker 1: Yeah.
40:19
Speaker 2: Honey, stop. The kids are around, right?
40:20
Speaker 3: No, I'm like, ooh, okay, honey. And I'm like, turn
40:23
Speaker 3: your head the other way.
40:25
Speaker 1: Okay.
40:26
Speaker 2: I love you. I know that you are. Ryan and
40:29
Speaker 2: Jen are getting it in. I know they're like... I
40:33
Speaker 2: know they are getting it in.
40:35
Speaker 5: True.
40:36
Speaker 2: Heather and Terry, I don't see it.
40:39
Speaker 1: But I think they've been together for so long that
40:42
Speaker 1: they are comfortable. And it works for them. I think
40:47
Speaker 1: they're just like, we're They're soulmates.
40:50
Speaker 2: They're soulmates. Emily and Shane.
40:56
Speaker 4: It's just so awkward to even think about.
41:02
Speaker 2: Emily and Shane. I don't want to think about it.
41:05
Speaker 5: No.
41:06
Speaker 2: Travis and Gina give me... Best friends. And the prototype
41:17
Speaker 2: of the ring... Hold on. Hold on.
41:19
Speaker 3: You didn't do Eddie and Tamara and you didn't do
41:21
Speaker 3: Vicky and Mike.
41:23
Speaker 5: Okay.
41:23
Speaker 2: Tamara and Eddie... Okay, listen. That's why I love the
41:27
Speaker 2: scene when they were... The lingerie and stuff. And she
41:30
Speaker 2: admitted like, I gotta get my libido back. Yes.
41:33
Speaker 3: That's on her though.
41:34
Speaker 4: This season, that's on her and she knows it. It's
41:36
Speaker 4: chemically something going on with her hormones.
41:38
Speaker 2: Exactly.
41:39
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, they are fine in their sex life
41:41
Speaker 4: other than what she's doing.
41:43
Speaker 2: But the thing is, they've always had chemistry. Always.
41:46
Speaker 4: 100%.
41:46
Speaker 1: Vicky and Mike, they're definitely doing it.
41:54
Speaker 3: 100%.
41:55
Speaker 2: 100% doing it. Like, Vicky, I think Vicky's like, you
42:01
Speaker 2: want it now? And he's like, why not? You know?
42:06
Speaker 4: It's so funny because she's such an anomaly because she's
42:08
Speaker 4: so like type A with her business, like.
42:10
Speaker 3: Typing in the, you know, did it. And then she's
42:13
Speaker 3: probably like bedroom now, bedroom now.
42:16
Speaker 2: Like, he's like, okay. He puts down the newspaper.
42:19
Speaker 4: I think I'll go back, go back to the ring
42:25
Speaker 4: and what you were saying before I interrupted.
42:27
Speaker 2: I picked her mic like this and his newspaper. And
42:33
Speaker 2: I think Vicky's like, ready? Yep. Pick up his glasses
42:38
Speaker 2: and go. Pop a little.
42:40
Speaker 4: Does he really fold the glasses that neat before he?
42:43
Speaker 2: Yes. Not that neat. He's like, he has his drugstore readers. Okay.
42:48
Speaker 3: Put some Listerine in. Be right there, honey. What's his
42:53
Speaker 3: armpits little?
42:55
Speaker 1: Yes.
42:56
Speaker 2: Vicky's like, come on.
42:57
Speaker 5: Come on.
42:58
Speaker 2: I have a break.
42:59
Speaker 3: I have two and a half minutes. We got to go, bud.
43:01
Speaker 4: I got to call and Zoom in two and a
43:03
Speaker 4: half minutes.
43:04
Speaker 5: Yes.
43:05
Speaker 1: One trillion percent. I definitely think that's the case. Speaking
43:10
Speaker 1: of Vicky, listen. Bravo, pun intended. That, listen, the world,
43:22
Speaker 1: me included. have been very hard on Vicky. And I'm
43:26
Speaker 1: not saying we weren't justified. I think, again, I'm only
43:32
Speaker 1: recapping what I watch. I don't know what you're doing
43:35
Speaker 1: at home. I'm only recapping what I've watched. We've been
43:39
Speaker 1: hard on Vicky, rightfully so, based on what we're being shown.
43:43
Speaker 3: I have not, and I have always stuck up for her.
43:45
Speaker 2: No. You haven't.
43:48
Speaker 4: I have stuck up for her, and it's because I
43:50
Speaker 4: do know her heart. And I know she's not in
43:53
Speaker 4: a good place. And I love her.
43:55
Speaker 3: And I think that you love people through what they are.
43:58
Speaker 4: And the reason I love her so much for TV,
44:00
Speaker 4: when everyone's saying they want her off the screen, I
44:01
Speaker 4: do not agree.
44:02
Speaker 3: I will stand by this till the day. I don't
44:04
Speaker 3: stand by it anymore.
44:05
Speaker 4: But I stand by the fact that I think she
44:10
Speaker 4: is so authentic on camera, sometimes to her detriment, that
44:14
Speaker 4: she does not produce herself. She does not try to
44:17
Speaker 4: make a scene a scene.
44:18
Speaker 3: She's just herself. And I, that's what I love about her.
44:22
Speaker 4: And I could read from the beginning of this season
44:26
Speaker 4: that she was in a tough place and had bit
44:28
Speaker 4: off more than she can chew. And I stand by that.
44:32
Speaker 4: And by the way, she's still going through it. They're
44:34
Speaker 4: done filming right now. They're going to do the reunion
44:35
Speaker 4: obviously in October, but she's still going through the ringer
44:39
Speaker 4: with her knee and with her pain. And I don't
44:41
Speaker 4: know what it's like to film when you're in that
44:42
Speaker 4: much pain all the time.
44:44
Speaker 3: But like, I know that that played in her psyche.
44:47
Speaker 4: The fact that Production has evolutionized to such a level
44:50
Speaker 4: that it's not the same when she was before. I
44:52
Speaker 4: think all of it played into the and she's now
44:54
Speaker 4: we find out she's lonely. She's very honest about the
44:57
Speaker 4: fact that even though she has a full time boyfriend
44:58
Speaker 4: that loves her and adores her and they've got a
45:00
Speaker 4: great relationship, it seems like she's lonely because he travels
45:02
Speaker 4: a lot and her kids are gone. I think she
45:04
Speaker 4: misses her kids. And I think if she could have
45:06
Speaker 4: it her way, she would have all of her kids
45:08
Speaker 4: back home. you know, in the same, like, I can't
45:10
Speaker 4: imagine if my kids move away. I told John, I'm sorry,
45:13
Speaker 4: but we're going to be in one of those little
45:15
Speaker 4: Winnebago vans going to all visit all our kids. Cause
45:18
Speaker 4: I'm going to have to get my fix of each
45:19
Speaker 4: kid once a week. So we're going to be busy
45:22
Speaker 4: traveling to each wherever they go, but we're trying to
45:24
Speaker 4: keep them all here.
45:25
Speaker 3: Kind of bribing.
45:27
Speaker 2: I agree with you.
45:29
Speaker 1: I applaud Vicky for being so transparent when it comes
45:32
Speaker 1: to this. The beauty of this conversation is she wasn't
45:35
Speaker 1: having this based on social media backlash and, You know,
45:39
Speaker 1: if this was a scene that, let's say she came
45:41
Speaker 1: back next season and this scene happened, I would have
45:44
Speaker 1: been like, girl, you're trying to feed off of our
45:50
Speaker 1: thoughts with you because you want us to feel sorry
45:52
Speaker 1: for you, right? As a producer, I will say I
45:56
Speaker 1: applaud her for being vulnerable. I applaud her for her transparency.
46:05
Speaker 1: I know what it's like to be a workhorse. And
46:08
Speaker 1: the one thing that I always try to do that
46:10
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I've conquered, but I'm much better, is
46:14
Speaker 1: not make my identity work.
46:17
Speaker 2: Because when you love what you do, it feels like breathing.
46:23
Speaker 1: And I can relate to Vicky in the sense of
46:27
Speaker 1: that's her livelihood and she loves it. And when she
46:32
Speaker 1: was honest about the fact that And I.
46:35
Speaker 2: Never looked at it that way.
46:36
Speaker 1: Like when they're like, get off your laptop and whatever insurance,
46:39
Speaker 1: she takes that as y'all poking fun at my work.
46:42
Speaker 1: And I never looked at it that way, but I,
46:46
Speaker 1: and I also don't have friends who say that to me.
46:48
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it feels like. My friends
46:50
Speaker 2: be like, no bitch, we get it.
46:52
Speaker 1: Like, like when you talk about your friendship with Tamara,
46:56
Speaker 1: she's like, Hey, I'm on the pod.
46:58
Speaker 2: I'm doing the pod, the pod, the pod, the pod.
47:01
Speaker 1: Yeah. And, She loves what she does. And it's like
47:04
Speaker 1: breathing for her. But you also know that that's what
47:07
Speaker 1: she does full time. But you're not poking fun at
47:10
Speaker 1: her for that. So I thought that moment, honestly, and
47:13
Speaker 1: I'm being very honest. I look back and said, hmm.
47:20
Speaker 1: I now have a better understanding of Vicky.
47:24
Speaker 3: And I see why. Some of Vicki and you.
47:27
Speaker 4: I do see your, you know, I've known you a
47:29
Speaker 4: few years now, so it's not like you're a new friend,
47:31
Speaker 4: but I do see how you put your social life
47:35
Speaker 4: a little bit more on pause and your work is
47:38
Speaker 4: kind of your number one. And I feel like any
47:40
Speaker 4: boyfriend you have has to understand that, and either they
47:43
Speaker 4: get it or they don't. And I think that's what's
47:47
Speaker 4: hard for America to be viewing with Vicki right now.
47:49
Speaker 3: She's always been this way. She has not changed. It
47:51
Speaker 3: was this way back when we were filming seasons five
47:53
Speaker 3: through eight. Did she... Did she get on her laptop
47:56
Speaker 3: on the car rides?
47:57
Speaker 5: Yeah.
47:58
Speaker 3: Did she make phone calls for work on the car rides?
48:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
48:00
Speaker 4: One of the scenes she even, like my phone was
48:03
Speaker 4: ringing loud, like was actually ringing. And she's like, girl,
48:06
Speaker 4: turn your ringer off because we're all working here. And
48:09
Speaker 4: you have to turn your ringer off when you're in
48:10
Speaker 4: the van and we're all going somewhere.
48:11
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, okay, sorry.
48:13
Speaker 4: Didn't know that tip, but okay, got it. She's working
48:16
Speaker 4: as we're getting from point A to point B. And
48:18
Speaker 4: I don't blame her for that. Do I think it
48:19
Speaker 4: is part of her identity?
48:20
Speaker 1: Yes.
48:21
Speaker 3: And this is, I'm not talking bad about her. This
48:22
Speaker 3: is the things I would say to her face. And
48:24
Speaker 3: she knows this. I do think she's a workaholic.
48:26
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything wrong with that as long
48:28
Speaker 4: as the people around her who love her know that.
48:31
Speaker 3: Do I think the girls are right that they wish
48:32
Speaker 3: she would find a little bit of balance?
48:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
48:35
Speaker 4: But if you're like right now for you, Carlos, you're
48:37
Speaker 4: in the height of your career. You haven't decided you
48:40
Speaker 4: want to settle down and take a.
48:41
Speaker 3: Step back yet. You are just like full throttle. Let's go.
48:44
Speaker 3: I think for the women, because Vicky is what, 20
48:46
Speaker 3: years older than you.
48:47
Speaker 4: I think the women are kind of saying, babe, pull
48:50
Speaker 4: back a little and, and enjoy, kind of start to
48:52
Speaker 4: enjoy life a little bit and put your, you know,
48:54
Speaker 4: find the balance where for you, I don't think you're
48:56
Speaker 4: there yet because you're, you do have 20 more years
48:58
Speaker 4: of just like go.
48:59
Speaker 3: And then you're going to be like, put a fork
49:01
Speaker 3: in me.
49:01
Speaker 2: I'm done.
49:01
Speaker 4: I want to now go retire and be on the
49:03
Speaker 4: beach with my, my boat, you know? So I don't
49:06
Speaker 4: think anything's wrong. And I didn't take it that way
49:08
Speaker 4: either that they're poking at her. I think they were
49:09
Speaker 4: just looking like, let's try to get her to put
49:12
Speaker 4: her computer down for one minute.
49:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I, and again, it's how she feels and
49:19
Speaker 1: I understand that because if I have friends saying, it's funny,
49:23
Speaker 1: I have friends in the business, like you have friends
49:26
Speaker 1: who are reality stars. And one of the tough things
49:30
Speaker 1: about doing these recaps is separating the two, right? And
49:36
Speaker 1: I used to have friends say to me, well, I
49:41
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it with you because, you know,
49:43
Speaker 1: you made me.
49:44
Speaker 2: And I'm like, what are you talking about?
49:47
Speaker 1: Like, I would never disclose anything you talk about me
49:51
Speaker 1: in private. And I usually get offended by that, like,
49:54
Speaker 1: but we're friends and we're talking as friends.
50:00
Speaker 2: I will never repeat it.
50:00
Speaker 1: But So that's my only way of relating to her
50:03
Speaker 1: in the sense of, not that they poked fun at it,
50:06
Speaker 1: but they took my job as a way of saying, well,
50:10
Speaker 1: you know, it does interfere with our friendship. Like Vicky's
50:14
Speaker 1: laptop interferes with her making friends with these women.
50:18
Speaker 3: Such a good analogy. Keep going.
50:20
Speaker 1: So I do get it. And I appreciated that Vicky... Oh,
50:27
Speaker 1: this made me so sad for her. When she said
50:29
Speaker 1: she felt less than.
50:30
Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
50:33
Speaker 1: As a woman, because, you know, she feels like if
50:39
Speaker 1: her and Don, her first husband, ex-husband, did not leave Chicago,
50:45
Speaker 1: they would still be together. And how she, and again,
50:49
Speaker 1: the honesty of, and you know this, being a part
50:53
Speaker 1: of Bravo and part of Housewives, how unfortunately it does
50:58
Speaker 1: happen to the best of them. This machine does create
51:05
Speaker 1: this identity for yourself. And you're sometimes chasing that, but
51:11
Speaker 1: abandoning home. Mm-hmm.
51:15
Speaker 2: That was, that honesty, I was like, I have no notes. Like, Vicky, in.
51:20
Speaker 1: This episode, again, me and Alexis go per episode. I,
51:25
Speaker 1: Carlos King, was saying this episode, I have never felt
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Speaker 1: so sad for Vicky ever.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 4: And another aspect that I want the viewers to think
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Speaker 4: about that I don't think anyone even really thought about
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Speaker 4: is Vicki said she's lonely and that Mike travels five
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Speaker 4: days a week. OK, he's got to be getting close
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Speaker 4: to retirement also. Maybe not, because I mean, they do
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Speaker 4: say that the minute anyone retires, it kind of, you know,
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Speaker 4: unless they have a big hobby or something that they're
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Speaker 4: really into gardening or Bible studies or whatever. you know, volunteering, whatever,
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Speaker 4: that you kind of are slowly going to die then
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Speaker 4: because you don't have something to get up for in
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Speaker 4: the morning.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know about retiring ever either.
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Speaker 4: But what people aren't thinking about is the fact that
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Speaker 4: she said she's so lonely.
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Speaker 3: Mike travels five days a week.
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Speaker 4: I feel like if her partner didn't travel and she
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Speaker 4: had Dawn, she wouldn't dive so much into work.
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Speaker 3: I think work keeps her from being lonely.
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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like a double-edged sword for her
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Speaker 4: because it's like, okay, if I stop working, then I'm
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Speaker 4: going to sit around.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be even more lonely.
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Speaker 4: Work is what keeps me fulfilled when my husband, my
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Speaker 4: boyfriend's traveling, you know, my kids are gone. So I
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Speaker 4: feel like she just doesn't have things to fill her day,
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Speaker 4: except her work. So it is her identity in some ways.
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Speaker 4: And it's sad, but I loved her vulnerability that she's.
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Speaker 5: Honest about it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And I think of her and her boyfriend both stopped
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Speaker 4: working so much and just really started finding hobbies together.
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Speaker 3: Like today, we're going to do a bike ride tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: We're going to do this, but they're both, they both
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Speaker 4: seem very invested in their work. And then the relationship
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Speaker 4: is second priority.
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Speaker 1: And that's why the best relationships, in my opinion, to me,
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Speaker 1: based on what I've seen being a producer, I think
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Speaker 1: relationships are hard when both parties are full-time, 24-7. So
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Speaker 1: you need.
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Speaker 3: One workhorse and one that can be like there, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there needs to be a balance.
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Speaker 1: I don't think relationships work where both are like, working.
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Speaker 2: 50 hours a week. You're not going to see each other.
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Speaker 1: So it makes sense. I think Vicky needs somebody. I
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Speaker 1: think Vicky's man needs to be retired.
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Speaker 2: You know?
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Speaker 1: And she's at that age where she's able to meet
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Speaker 1: somebody around her age, over 65, that's retired, live a
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Speaker 1: great life.
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Speaker 2: One of my girlfriends, you know, she's dating this guy, well,
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Speaker 2: lots of guys, but one of the guys she's dating.
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Speaker 2: I love my girl.
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Speaker 1: She's he's in his fifties, I think. And he's retired.
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Speaker 1: And he's like, let's just, he's always like, you want
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Speaker 1: to go up to Europe? She's like, okay.
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Speaker 2: And he's like, come with me. I have to go
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Speaker 2: to like Connecticut to see my sister. And she's like,
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Speaker 2: all right.
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Speaker 1: You know, like you, you, I think at that age group,
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Speaker 1: you can't have both of you guys work very much. And,
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Speaker 1: I feel bad for Vicky with that situation. Tamara did
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Speaker 1: such a great job opening up. I'm sorry, having Vicky
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable opening up. When she says she believes Vicky
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Speaker 1: is still healing from what she.
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Speaker 2: Went through with Brooks.
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Speaker 1: And that explains why she walks around on eggshells with Mike.
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Speaker 1: I agree 100%. I think Vicky, listen, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what it's like to be in my 60s. and trying
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Speaker 1: to get it right with a man. I think it's
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Speaker 1: like we've talked about with Carmella and Danny. When you
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Speaker 1: meet somebody, you do weigh at a certain age, you're
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Speaker 1: sort of like pros and cons. And I think Vicky's like,
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Speaker 1: I just don't want another breakup at this age.
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Speaker 2: I get it. I get it. I get that too.
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's like, but if a
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Speaker 4: relationship is so much struggle, Like it should just be
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Speaker 4: easy when you meet the person you're supposed to be with.
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Speaker 4: It should just be easy. It shouldn't be like there's
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Speaker 4: this strain. So I just that's what I wish for her.
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Speaker 4: And Mike, I do think that they're good together. I
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Speaker 4: haven't got to meet him, but I've watched I've heard
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Speaker 4: the other women who are when we're actually talking in front,
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Speaker 4: not in front of a television camera, like we're just real,
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Speaker 4: like living your life, that they do have a good relationship.
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Speaker 3: They are very much in love.
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Speaker 4: So I do think that the show is putting a
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Speaker 4: stress on their relationship because I think he's more private
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Speaker 4: from what I'm gathering from watching and also from what
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Speaker 4: I'm hearing.
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Speaker 3: But I also think that they can get over that hurdle.
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Speaker 4: I just wish that their relationship didn't seem so stressed.
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Speaker 4: And I do think that her knee plays a lot
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Speaker 4: of this because she's in agony right now, even now.
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Speaker 4: And she just had that nanosurgery, you know, and all that.
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Speaker 4: I'm not speaking anything I shouldn't speak about. But, you know,
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Speaker 4: she's still in a lot of pain.
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Speaker 3: It's not. I just feel for her. And that's why
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Speaker 3: I'm glad.
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Speaker 4: I'm really glad, like you said, that they had that scene.
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Speaker 4: Tamara and her had a really authentic, vulnerable, real scene.
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Speaker 4: Not something produced because she felt that she was reading
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Speaker 4: all the comments.
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Speaker 3: No, you're right.
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Speaker 2: This was real.
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Speaker 3: There were no comments out yet because the show hadn't
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Speaker 3: aired yet.
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Speaker 2: No, it was real.
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Speaker 3: I agree with you.
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Speaker 2: It was real and I appreciate it. Great episode. I.
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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was because it was an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to see a different side of Vicky. But another
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Speaker 1: great episode that I really, really, really did enjoy. And
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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing more of this. So Alexis,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to be entertained.
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Speaker 3: The rest of the season?
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Speaker 2: Especially when you pop up.
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Speaker 3: Oh, good God. who knows what that scene's even going
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Speaker 3: to be. I just can't wait.
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Speaker 4: I can't wait to be able to just.
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Speaker 3: Say the reality. So, well, yeah, stay tuned for that.
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Speaker 3: I might come with like sunglasses and a hat. So
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Speaker 3: I'm incognito on that, on that.
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Speaker 2: You're like, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, I'm
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Speaker 2: looking forward to that. Raindrops, let us know what you
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Speaker 2: thought about this episode on the comments. And we will
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Speaker 2: see you guys next Friday. Love you, Alexis. Have a
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Speaker 2: great weekend.
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Speaker 1: Bye. Bye, boo. Reality with the King is executive produced
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Speaker 1: by me, Carlos King, produced by Jamie Schaefer in partnership.
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