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Eagles and Ravens make OL Trade, 49ers are Overachievers, NFL Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, everybody? How are we doing?
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Speaker 1: John Middlecock, Three and Out podcast. Hopefully everyone is doing well,
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Speaker 1: enjoying life. That's what I'm trying to do because the
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Speaker 1: Eagles are making some headlines. We will dive into the
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Speaker 1: big trade of the day. Howie Roseman, Eric DaCosta, wheeling
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Speaker 1: and dealing. And some other stuff going on around the league.
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Speaker 1: D'Amico Ryans, soft fires his D.C., demotes him. Kyle Shanahan
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Speaker 1: has some comments on Mike McDonald and their defense. We'll
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Speaker 1: do some mailbag questions. At John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff,
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Speaker 1: there as well. And let's just dive right into the
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Speaker 1: big trade. Vito Corleone once famously said in The Godfather,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse.
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Speaker 1: And when you first saw the headline, you go, what
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Speaker 1: the hell is going on here? Howie Roseman just traded
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Speaker 1: Cam Juergens to the Baltimore Ravens for a second round pick.
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Speaker 1: And you take a deep breath. You kind of like
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Speaker 1: see what's going on. You see some of Howie's comments.
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Speaker 1: And it's pretty clear that the Baltimore Ravens made him
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Speaker 1: an offer that he just couldn't turn down. I don't
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Speaker 1: think a week ago, hell, I don't think Monday morning
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Speaker 1: after the Rams game, they had any intention of trading
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Speaker 1: Cam Juergens. But the majority of players in the NFL
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Speaker 1: are tradable. Hell, the majority of players in sports are
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Speaker 1: always on the open market. Just if another team reaches out,
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Speaker 1: you usually say no. Because they're never going to pay
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Speaker 1: what you value the player as. But you get to
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Speaker 1: a certain point, and it did in this spot, where
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Speaker 1: it's like, wait. You're going to give me a second
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Speaker 1: round pick for a guy who we really like, we
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Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl with, who has replaced Kelsey at center,
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Speaker 1: who is now playing guard. Obviously, he had been struggling
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Speaker 1: by all the metrics, which I never understand anyone arguing
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Speaker 1: about PFF anymore. He sold it to the private equity
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Speaker 1: venture capitalist firms. We've got these people. No one has
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Speaker 1: any clue who's doing this. No one I know values
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Speaker 1: whatever numbers next to a player, good or bad. Saw
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Speaker 1: everyone getting worked up after week one about Caleb Williams.
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Speaker 1: It's like, who gives it? Why are we arguing about this?
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Speaker 1: These are nameless faces. Collinsworth sold this business, got filthy rich.
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Speaker 1: It's all a fugazi at this point in time. The
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Speaker 1: NFL subscribes to PFF for personnel reasons so you get
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Speaker 1: groupings and get information that you don't have to run
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Speaker 1: in queries. They already have it broken down. They don't
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Speaker 1: give a shit about the grades. I promise you. No
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Speaker 1: scout I've ever met cares about the grades. Especially now. But...
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Speaker 1: You know, grades are obviously poor. His actual, if you
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Speaker 1: just watch him play, it's not going well. And I
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Speaker 1: just think they got to a point, like I'll give
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Speaker 1: you an example. Recently, I had this real estate agent
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Speaker 1: just blowing me up. And my first reaction is like,
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Speaker 1: am I getting spammed? I don't know about you, but
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Speaker 1: I get a million spam calls a day and I
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Speaker 1: get a million spam texts a day. I get the
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Speaker 1: same text about, hey, if you need your trees cut,
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Speaker 1: it's like, no, I don't need my trees cut. Stop
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Speaker 1: spamming me. But it's just relentless. Maybe I just need
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Speaker 1: to get a new phone number like I guess celebrities
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Speaker 1: and athletes often do. It's just too big of a
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Speaker 1: pain in the ass for me. But I just want
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Speaker 1: these spam calls to end. But this was actually a
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Speaker 1: real guy. And he's like, hey, I have a client
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Speaker 1: who is looking to move to your street. He wants
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Speaker 1: to move to your specific street. And I'm going through
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Speaker 1: and would you be interested in an off-market sale? And
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Speaker 1: I said, no, not really. I don't want to move.
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Speaker 1: I just had a baby. I built an office here. I...
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty content here because anywhere I'd move, it's like 7.5%
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Speaker 1: interest rates. I have no desire in the foreseeable future
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Speaker 1: to move, but I'm not an idiot. Here's my price.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, Jesus, like, I don't actually think my
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Speaker 1: house is worth that. Clearly isn't. It was like three
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Speaker 1: X what I could probably get. But if you want
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Speaker 1: me to move, this is what it would take me
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Speaker 1: to move. And I'll be out and I'll be out
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Speaker 1: in 12 hours. If you give me that number, I'll
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Speaker 1: be fucking gone. It's the middle of football season. I'm working.
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Speaker 1: I don't have time to deal with it, but I'm
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Speaker 1: not an idiot. And it's pretty rare that type stuff happens.
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Speaker 1: Usually when someone completely overpays for something, they are desperate, right?
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Speaker 1: And I think that was a situation here because the
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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, in my opinion, this is kind of crazy,
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Speaker 1: but they're pretty desperate. They have insane expectations behind this franchise.
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Speaker 1: Now Lamar is injured. They have this revolving door at center.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's been, you know, I mean, they look
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Speaker 1: pretty good up until he got injured. And then you go,
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're playing the Atlanta Falcons,
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Speaker 1: potentially without him. All of a sudden you're two and three.
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Speaker 1: You're like, Jesus. Or I guess you'd be three and two,
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Speaker 1: excuse me. And then things can get a little weird.
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Speaker 1: So you got this first time head coach. You're trying
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Speaker 1: to improve any way possible. And you can justify it
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Speaker 1: by it's a couple years out. If you're Howie, you go,
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Speaker 1: our offensive line's playing terrible. Lane just retired. Landon Dickerson's
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Speaker 1: probably never going to be the same. Who knows if
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Speaker 1: he's ever able to physically to come back. And right now,
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Speaker 1: because of our personnel, we got to have this guy
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Speaker 1: playing out of position and it's a disaster. So we
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Speaker 1: can get a pick that in 2022, they use a
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Speaker 1: first round pick to acquire AJ Brown. They used a
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Speaker 1: second round pick to acquire Cam Juergens. Over the course
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Speaker 1: of the last, I don't know, four months or They
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Speaker 1: have traded A.J. Brown for a first-round pick, and they
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Speaker 1: have traded Cam Juergens for a second-round pick. That's pretty
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Speaker 1: good return on investment. Now, like I said, I think
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Speaker 1: most operations that are run by coaches would have just
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Speaker 1: said no because to them, a second-round pick in a
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Speaker 1: couple years, they don't think like that. But general managers,
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Speaker 1: who the majority of franchises are not run by, right?
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying those guys don't have juice internally, but
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Speaker 1: when you're paying head coaches $ 15 million to $ 20 million, right? Like,
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Speaker 1: they're in complete control. We just saw, who do you
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Speaker 1: think runs the show in New England with the New
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Speaker 1: York Giants? I mean, these are head coaches. They're making
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Speaker 1: so much money. It's pretty rare for the Jason Lights
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Speaker 1: and Howie Rosemans and John Schneiders to have a lot
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Speaker 1: of juice. Like, it's not the way in San Francisco.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan never would have made this trade, no matter
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Speaker 1: how poor Cam Juergens is playing, because he's trying to
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Speaker 1: win this week. And that's what Sirianni's coaching staff is.
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Speaker 1: But Howie has to look at it from, you know,
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Speaker 1: a macro view. He has to look at the big picture.
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Speaker 1: And I think this is an easy trade. This is
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Speaker 1: a no-brainer trade. This is incredible value. At least the
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Speaker 1: information I have. Like the A.J. Brown situation, there was
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Speaker 1: a lot of different variables with the personality, with the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: He didn't want to be there anymore, clearly. This situation
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Speaker 1: just got like, hey, someone knocked on your front door
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Speaker 1: and offered you so much money. You're like, yeah, I'll
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Speaker 1: have the moving trucks here by the end of the day.
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Speaker 1: And it's pretty rare. It doesn't happen very often. But
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Speaker 1: this would happen a lot around the NFL if you
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Speaker 1: just started calling and asking for players and offered so
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Speaker 1: much that some of these teams with general managers in
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Speaker 1: charge would definitely trade some guys. There's only a handful
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Speaker 1: of players in the NFL who are truly untradeable. If
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Speaker 1: you think of veteran players who are untradeable, the majority
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Speaker 1: of them are quarterbacks. The first two come to mind
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Speaker 1: are Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. They're untradeable. You would
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Speaker 1: just hang up. You wouldn't even call and ask. Someone
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Speaker 1: recently asked me how these things play out. And I
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Speaker 1: think at the Combine and during free agency and the draft,
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Speaker 1: the convention in Indianapolis, everyone kind of knows. So everyone's
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Speaker 1: picking each other's brains. Everyone's talking to each other. But
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Speaker 1: all these guys text each other constantly. So they're constantly
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Speaker 1: running different ideas. And there are some situations like Joey Porter,
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Speaker 1: who did the hold in, then would practice, wouldn't practice.
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Speaker 1: It was pretty clear that situation was getting weird. So
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Speaker 1: when you have weird situations that are evident to me
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Speaker 1: and you, they're definitely evident to the GMs. These teams
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Speaker 1: have been calling them. So they just took the best
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Speaker 1: offer clearly from the Cowboys. But as Dan Campbell said
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Speaker 1: the next day, we were very much in on that.
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Speaker 1: which I would imagine there are other teams who are
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Speaker 1: also in on that that will never come out and
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Speaker 1: say that. But that's a situation like you don't need
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Speaker 1: Omar Khan and Mike McCarthy to text you like, hey,
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Speaker 1: would you be interested in Joey Porter? You're getting calls
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Speaker 1: about that. In a situation with Cam Juergens, I doubt
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Speaker 1: they're getting calls, right? It's like he wasn't available. But
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Speaker 1: the Ravens, who look at these situations and know, hey,
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Speaker 1: the Eagles have some young players that they like. It's
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Speaker 1: already not going well. Maybe we could get them. And
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Speaker 1: I would imagine when they first started talking, Howie said
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Speaker 1: no a couple times. What's the most powerful thing you
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Speaker 1: can do in business? Say no. Because, especially if you
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Speaker 1: mean it, if you say no and you mean it,
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Speaker 1: if they really want it, they'll come back and they'll
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Speaker 1: offer more. And then they got to a point where
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Speaker 1: you could argue that no doesn't make sense. Now, this
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Speaker 1: is a pretty big blow, right? For Sirianni, who we
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Speaker 1: could be wrong, feels like he's coaching for his job.
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Speaker 1: Pretty big blow for Jalen Hurts, who has not played well.
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Speaker 1: Their offensive line's been in shambles. Saquon Barkley's now injured.
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Speaker 1: Their running game sucks. Now is missing you know, three
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Speaker 1: of his starting offensive linemen from a month ago. One's retired.
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Speaker 1: One's traded. The other one's on short-term IR. So you're
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Speaker 1: going to go to this game in London with a
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Speaker 1: bunch of young guys, right? Rookie right tackle, young center,
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Speaker 1: Willie Lampkin, who was an undrafted free agent, I think,
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Speaker 1: two years ago. So it's like a lot of room,
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Speaker 1: you know, Jordan Mailata feels like he's Jason Peters right now.
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Speaker 1: just on an island by himself as this grizzled vet
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Speaker 1: from Australia. And I think it adds a lot of
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Speaker 1: pressure to everything that's going on. But when you run
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Speaker 1: an organization like being flexible, which is an issue, the Eagles,
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Speaker 1: some cap things, they're always kind of like pushing the
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Speaker 1: can down the road, the A.J. Brown, dead cap, the
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Speaker 1: June 1st. Now this situation, which is going to hit
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Speaker 1: their cap next year because they just extended this player.
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Speaker 1: But when you could get, I still can't get over
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Speaker 1: getting the return on investment for those two players in
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Speaker 1: a four-month span and getting the same pick. Now we'll
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Speaker 1: see the exact pick in the order. But like when
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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders traded for Laramie Tunzel, a second-round pick
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Speaker 1: the following year, they felt pretty good about where they
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Speaker 1: were at. And then they didn't win many games. And
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans got a top 40 pick. The L.A.
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Speaker 1: Rams won the Super Bowl, and then the next year,
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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions had the sixth overall pick in the draft.
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Speaker 1: And then they were able to use that to trade
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Speaker 1: back to 12, get Jameer Gibbs, and with the extra
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Speaker 1: pick from trading back, get Sam Laporta. So this is
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Speaker 1: such a fickle league. Things change so fast, you never know.
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Speaker 1: And I don't think the Eagles are tanking. I think
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Speaker 1: there's a big difference between tanking and good business. And
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Speaker 1: to me, this is good business. And to me, with
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Speaker 1: the Ravens, like, this is pressure. This is desperation. This
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Speaker 1: is which they should feel. You have Lamar Jackson in
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Speaker 1: his prime, right? Who is, like, I know some people
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Speaker 1: are going to push back. He's just, when he's healthy,
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Speaker 1: a much better player than Jalen Hurts. I never understand this.
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Speaker 1: Like the Jalen argument. It's like, look at his resume.
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Speaker 1: Look how well he played in the Super Bowl. Okay, great.
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Speaker 1: That was a couple years ago. but currently he's playing bad.
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Speaker 1: Last year at the end of the season, he played bad.
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Speaker 1: You can be a great guy and have moments where
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Speaker 1: you're a complete asshole. I have them all the time.
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Speaker 1: Not sleeping much, kids awake, you're a little edgy, and
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Speaker 1: you say things you regret. That doesn't mean that that
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Speaker 1: moment defines you, but like Patrick Mahomes' resume is all-time greatness.
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Speaker 1: It's on the short list of the most accomplished players
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Speaker 1: in league history. Newsflash, 2025, he didn't play that well.
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Speaker 1: You know, why can't we ever say that, right? It's
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Speaker 1: like Jalen currently, I see these people on the internet
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Speaker 1: going back and forth. He's not playing that well. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he hasn't been a good player and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he can't be a good player again, but
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Speaker 1: right now he is a liability for the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 1: It's not even arguable. You know, I never quite understand that.
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Speaker 1: Jared Goff was horrendous toward the end with the Detroit Lions,
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Speaker 1: or I mean, excuse me, the LA Rams. That's a
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Speaker 1: big reason they wanted out from him. Early on with
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Speaker 1: the Lions, didn't look good. Over the last couple of years,
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Speaker 1: the stats speak for himself. He's been one of the
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Speaker 1: most productive players in the league. Things ebb and flow.
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Speaker 1: Like most guys aren't Michael Jordan or LeBron James. Like
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Speaker 1: every year, you know what you're getting. the overwhelming majority
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Speaker 1: of players, even awesome players, can have a down year
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Speaker 1: for a lot of different variables. It might not all
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Speaker 1: be their fault, but sometimes maybe it is. Maybe they're
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Speaker 1: just playing poorly. Maybe they're pressing. We're all human beings.
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Speaker 1: Just look at your life. You've probably had better months
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Speaker 1: than others. You've probably had more productive times than others.
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Speaker 1: And I think the Baltimore Ravens, this weird situation, big
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Speaker 1: picture with Lamar and his contract, You know, before LeBron,
13:56
Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep calling LeBron, Lamar hurt
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Speaker 1: his ankle. He was balling. But now it's like, how
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Speaker 1: long is he going to be out? Like, are we
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Speaker 1: going to be able to protect Snoop Huntley if he
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Speaker 1: has to play a couple games? We have this young
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Speaker 1: coaching staff. My owner was already kind of edgy last year.
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Speaker 1: I got to protect my job. Like, I'm not Ozzie
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Speaker 1: Newsome here. I'm not a complete made man. I don't
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Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl as a general manager on my resume. Actually,
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Speaker 1: Ozzie had two. So I just think these situations, you
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Speaker 1: get desperate times. And that's why I would imagine the Ravens,
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Speaker 1: who sniffed around a couple different players throughout the league.
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Speaker 1: But this was a guy that, because he knows how
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Speaker 1: he's probably more willing to listen than some other organizations would,
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Speaker 1: where that coach might have more juice. Because I think
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Speaker 1: if it was flip-flopped and Sirianni was in charge and
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Speaker 1: Howie was essentially working from him, I doubt this deal happens.
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Speaker 1: Why does Sirianni care about a second-round pick in 2028?
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Speaker 1: What percent chance, prediction market, poly market, would you say
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Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is the head coach in the 2028 draft
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Speaker 1: for the Philadelphia Eagles? As we sit here right now,
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Speaker 1: it'd probably be under 50%. And I wouldn't even blame him.
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Speaker 1: I'd probably say no, too. Because hopefully we get a
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Speaker 1: guy back, we can move him back to center, kind
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Speaker 1: of mix and match this thing. But offensive lines... One,
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Speaker 1: there's a chemistry aspect. I saw someone posted the pic
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Speaker 1: of their offensive line when they won the Super Bowl
15:25
Speaker 1: a couple years ago of like that Michael Scott quote of,
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Speaker 1: I wish we knew we were in the good times
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Speaker 1: when we were actually in the good times. And you
15:36
Speaker 1: kind of never know until it's too late. And then
15:39
Speaker 1: you look back, it's like those were the good times.
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Speaker 1: Like you might be in the best days of your
15:44
Speaker 1: life currently, and you'll look back in 5, 10, 20,
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Speaker 1: 30 years and you go, that was the best days
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Speaker 1: of my life, but you never actually know it. And
15:53
Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you're in it, especially in an
15:56
Speaker 1: industry like football, you, because you're just, you know, think
16:02
Speaker 1: about the way coaches are interviewed after a big win
16:06
Speaker 1: as a player, but specifically coaches, you see this a
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Speaker 1: lot in college. I guess NFL coaches typically aren't interviewed
16:11
Speaker 1: after a win on the field, like college coaches, but like,
16:14
Speaker 1: By the third question, they already go, hey, we got
16:17
Speaker 1: to look forward to our next opponent. It's going to
16:19
Speaker 1: be a really hard game. They're already saying that on
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Speaker 1: the field of the game they won. I saw Nick
16:24
Speaker 1: Saban had a quote like, you know, by the end,
16:29
Speaker 1: winning wasn't as fun. It was almost a relief. And
16:32
Speaker 1: losing would absolutely cripple you. And I think you see
16:35
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches say that like, you know, winning
16:37
Speaker 1: for a split second is enjoyable, but it's also the
16:41
Speaker 1: like relief of not losing. It's not necessarily a fun experience.
16:45
Speaker 1: The fun is just avoiding the loss because you know
16:48
Speaker 1: the loss, that feel that you have in your body
16:53
Speaker 1: is way worse than the positive feel of the win.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's part of getting older and having
17:01
Speaker 1: experience of just trying to avoid negative things. And in football,
17:07
Speaker 1: it's a binary outcome, right? It's black or white. There's
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Speaker 1: no like, Oh, it's a great effort. You know, it
17:15
Speaker 1: was good, but you lost by 10 points, but we
17:17
Speaker 1: had all these positives. That's not how people think. And I,
17:21
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens feel that. And I also think
17:23
Speaker 1: they look around, they go, you got Aaron Rogers and
17:26
Speaker 1: McCarthy screaming at each other on the field. You got
17:29
Speaker 1: the bangles. Just weird. Like I, I was high on them.
17:32
Speaker 1: I still feel pretty good. Cause I think their defense
17:34
Speaker 1: is good, but now Jamar chase after that face mask has,
17:37
Speaker 1: you know, is concussed. Um, You know, Burrow, it's like
17:42
Speaker 1: he gets anointed as Joe Montana, and he can play
17:44
Speaker 1: like that, but he also makes awful mistakes. It's like,
17:47
Speaker 1: is he going to be able to stay healthy the
17:48
Speaker 1: whole season? And I don't know, the Browns are 3-1,
17:51
Speaker 1: but I think we'd all agree, like, have you bet
17:54
Speaker 1: on the Browns winning 10 games? Probably not. So it's like,
17:57
Speaker 1: we got to win this division, you know? And it's
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Speaker 1: on me, you know, because I would say the Ravens
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Speaker 1: a lot like the Eagles. Like, DaCosta's the boss. And
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Speaker 1: I do wonder if this shows that he feels a
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Speaker 1: little pressure from They're like, we need to win. We
18:12
Speaker 1: need to win now. There's no like, let's build this
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Speaker 1: thing up for the future. Like, we're trying to win now.
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Speaker 1: We got rid of John Harbaugh to try to get
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Speaker 1: this new guy in to take us to the next level.
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Speaker 1: This wasn't one of those situations like Dan Campbell coming
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Speaker 1: to the Lions. Tear it down to the studs. Get
18:29
Speaker 1: us a base of people to work with for the
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Speaker 1: next five years. For the Ravens, like, This is about now,
18:37
Speaker 1: and I would say next year as well, but trying
18:39
Speaker 1: to maximize the situation with Lamar Jackson, who I was
18:44
Speaker 1: pretty high on him before he gets his ankle injury,
18:47
Speaker 1: and now it's, I would say, a little concerning. But
18:50
Speaker 1: when you look at the Ravens this week, we talked
18:53
Speaker 1: about this yesterday, they played the Atlanta Falcons coming up,
18:58
Speaker 1: who are clearly one of the hottest teams in the league.
19:01
Speaker 1: They are... Like your buddy on GLP once. One day
19:05
Speaker 1: he's fat. Two months later, it's like, God, where does
19:08
Speaker 1: that jawline come from? It's like, oh, it's the jab.
19:11
Speaker 1: But then they play at Cleveland, which is obviously always
19:14
Speaker 1: a tough place to play because division rivalries. Cleveland always
19:20
Speaker 1: can sneak up on some of these teams within their division,
19:22
Speaker 1: especially at home. Then they get the Bengals. Then they
19:25
Speaker 1: get the Bills. Then they get the Jags. I do
19:28
Speaker 1: think that DaCosta is feeling the heat a little bit.
19:31
Speaker 1: And I think if you're an Eagles fan, it's like, yeah,
19:33
Speaker 1: this is why Howie's known as one of the best
19:35
Speaker 1: wheelers and dealers in the league. But part of being
19:37
Speaker 1: a good wheeler and dealer, you do need a little luck.
19:40
Speaker 1: You know, part of being a good wheeler and dealer
19:42
Speaker 1: is you need situations to take advantage of. How he
19:46
Speaker 1: can't do a deal without someone else making a mistake.
19:50
Speaker 1: When he traded for A.J. Brown, why was A.J. Brown available? Well,
19:55
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Because the owner is cheap. And
19:57
Speaker 1: when Vrabel stormed out of the office on that draft night,
20:01
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel wasn't on board. A.J. Brown shouldn't have been available.
20:05
Speaker 1: But he was. And they traded the 17th pick for him.
20:08
Speaker 1: So you shouldn't be able to get a, I would say,
20:13
Speaker 1: he's not that old, he's 27 years old, but a
20:15
Speaker 1: guy with some injury history who is currently playing poorly. Now,
20:20
Speaker 1: you could justify it. That's not his position. You move
20:21
Speaker 1: him back to center. But just a second-round pick. I
20:25
Speaker 1: don't know how many teams in the NFL, if I said, hey,
20:27
Speaker 1: you need a center, would have done this deal. I
20:32
Speaker 1: would imagine the number would be extremely small, if not
20:35
Speaker 1: only one. So I give Howie a lot of credit,
20:37
Speaker 1: but he's also taking advantage of some of these just
20:39
Speaker 1: crazy situations. And yeah, to me, good deal for the Eagles.
20:46
Speaker 1: And it'd be a good deal in the short term
20:48
Speaker 1: for the Ravens if he's healthy and can play well.
20:50
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22:45
Speaker 1: like kind of start freaking out. I mean, The Texans
22:49
Speaker 1: are 0-4, and I think this feels a little shittier,
22:52
Speaker 1: even though they went 12-5 last year, it's because they
22:55
Speaker 1: also started 0-3. So you feel like, what is going on?
22:59
Speaker 1: Why can't we start fast? But most importantly, their defense
23:02
Speaker 1: has been atrocious, relative to what it was. It was
23:06
Speaker 1: a dominant defense. It was, for a first-time fantasy player,
23:10
Speaker 1: I drafted them way too high. If I could do
23:12
Speaker 1: that one over, I would not have picked the Houston Texans.
23:15
Speaker 1: But anytime you're in a situation where A guy catches
23:19
Speaker 1: 17 passes and essentially has a walk-off touchdown after he's
23:23
Speaker 1: caught pass after pass after pass. And this isn't some
23:26
Speaker 1: random guy. This isn't like the seventh man on the
23:30
Speaker 1: Wizards going for 50. You're like, who is this guy? No,
23:33
Speaker 1: this is the best player on their team. And D'Amico
23:37
Speaker 1: today demoted the defensive coordinator, Matt Burke, who was defense
23:40
Speaker 1: coordinator last year and elevated himself. And I was reading
23:44
Speaker 1: his quotes. He doesn't sound thrilled to do this. Like,
23:47
Speaker 1: this doesn't feel like a situation that, like, yeah, I
23:50
Speaker 1: need to do this because I want to do this. Like,
23:54
Speaker 1: I want to be calling plays. I think it's because
23:56
Speaker 1: we're completely desperate. And anytime you make these moves out
23:59
Speaker 1: of desperation, right around now is when you see some
24:01
Speaker 1: coordinators get fired, coordinators get demoted. You've seen it happen
24:04
Speaker 1: in college. Cal demoted a coordinator in the middle of
24:10
Speaker 1: the game. Obviously, Colorado State fired a coordinator in the
24:13
Speaker 1: middle of the game. You start freaking out. But typically
24:16
Speaker 1: when things aren't working, they don't all of a sudden
24:18
Speaker 1: just start working. So I don't know exactly what's going
24:22
Speaker 1: on with the Houston Texans. Clearly Lassiter, who played really
24:25
Speaker 1: well last year, is not playing as well. And when
24:29
Speaker 1: typically I would say when you have a lockdown elite corner,
24:34
Speaker 1: you just constantly throw to the other side. And the
24:38
Speaker 1: other guys, if they're not playing at an elite level
24:40
Speaker 1: in a league full of high-end wide receivers... and quarterbacks
24:45
Speaker 1: you're going to get exposed in a league where it
24:48
Speaker 1: is much more difficult to take out the wide receivers
24:52
Speaker 1: physically mug them with physicality because they throw penalties like
24:57
Speaker 1: it's you got to have just cover guys and most
25:00
Speaker 1: teams don't have that many cover guys and it felt
25:02
Speaker 1: like the houston texans dbs were incredible well now you
25:05
Speaker 1: just look petrie and laster were getting smoked so it's
25:09
Speaker 1: like yeah will anderson looks like a monster Their front
25:12
Speaker 1: still feels pretty solid, but they're getting slice and dice
25:15
Speaker 1: in the air, which is crazy. It didn't feel like
25:18
Speaker 1: that last year. And I just don't know really what
25:21
Speaker 1: D'Amico is going to be able to do. You know,
25:23
Speaker 1: I think some people, I heard Albert Brewer talk about
25:27
Speaker 1: and kind of allude to the fact of like, anytime
25:29
Speaker 1: your offense, you know, sneaky has some shorter drives in
25:32
Speaker 1: the second half, your defense start getting worn down. You know,
25:36
Speaker 1: the Texans are a defense that's kind of predicated more
25:38
Speaker 1: on speed, You kind of lose some of that as
25:41
Speaker 1: you get, I don't know, exhausted. And a lot of
25:45
Speaker 1: different factors in here, but not a great sign. As
25:49
Speaker 1: someone that thought for the second straight year in a row,
25:51
Speaker 1: I'm like, Texas, number one seed! They'll win this week
25:55
Speaker 1: because they're playing the Titans. I saw this interesting quote.
26:00
Speaker 1: The 49ers are playing Seattle. And that game was actually... Well,
26:05
Speaker 1: that game was always going to be in the afternoon,
26:06
Speaker 1: but the Bears-Packers game... got flexed to the morning. The Bears-Packers,
26:12
Speaker 1: I would say, non-playoff games last year, all three of
26:17
Speaker 1: their games were top five games of the year. I
26:19
Speaker 1: guess one of them was a playoff game. I guess
26:21
Speaker 1: we could include playoff games as well. I would say
26:24
Speaker 1: they were three of the top five games of the year.
26:25
Speaker 1: They were incredible television. But it does feel like the
26:29
Speaker 1: Bears are going to be the living shit out of them.
26:31
Speaker 1: And I don't blame Fox for flexing that game because
26:36
Speaker 1: that could be one of those 30-10s where it just
26:39
Speaker 1: kind of tough watch, like the Jets game. It's just
26:42
Speaker 1: going to be kind of boring. And they just bleed
26:44
Speaker 1: them out. I think Packers are in major trouble. And historically,
26:48
Speaker 1: Kyle's been in some trouble against Mike McDonald. And he
26:51
Speaker 1: was talking, one, he was asked, like, this offseason, do
26:54
Speaker 1: you spend some time going to the lab? And he's like, well,
26:57
Speaker 1: you know, you spend in the offseason always on your
27:00
Speaker 1: divisional opponents. That's true. You know, I think you spend
27:03
Speaker 1: time on the teams that you're going to play twice,
27:06
Speaker 1: no matter what, especially when you have you know, teams
27:10
Speaker 1: that have given you trouble. But I would guess that
27:14
Speaker 1: Kyle spent a little bit more time specifically on some
27:18
Speaker 1: offseason projects on trying to figure out Seattle's defense. But
27:23
Speaker 1: I thought one thing that he said, like trying to
27:25
Speaker 1: describe and explain what he sees when he watches them
27:29
Speaker 1: on tape, he called them overachievers. I was like, what
27:34
Speaker 1: a compliment. I remember when Kobe scored 60 against the
27:38
Speaker 1: Utah Jazz on his final night, which was an incredible night,
27:40
Speaker 1: by the way. I remember I was living in Emeryville
27:43
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area at the time, and the Warriors
27:46
Speaker 1: were going for 73 wins in Kobe's last game, and
27:49
Speaker 1: the Warriors game felt like an afterthought. Kobe game, that
27:52
Speaker 1: was one of the coolest, and I hate the Lakers.
27:55
Speaker 1: That was pretty badass. He was just shooting every time.
27:57
Speaker 1: He was exhausted. But after he gave the mic, and
27:59
Speaker 1: I remember I wrote it down on my phone, He said,
28:02
Speaker 1: I want to be remembered as a talented overachiever. And
28:07
Speaker 1: whenever you can get, because clearly they are loaded with
28:10
Speaker 1: high-end talent, but essentially what Kyle's saying is like, I
28:14
Speaker 1: don't think it's possible to play much more, like with
28:16
Speaker 1: more effort than these guys play. It's one of Max
28:19
Speaker 1: Crosby's defining traits, right? Honestly, it's probably his most defining trait.
28:24
Speaker 1: If you talk to people in the league, offensive coaches, scouts,
28:27
Speaker 1: there's no one in the league that plays harder. And
28:30
Speaker 1: Max isn't nearly the, like I would say the most
28:32
Speaker 1: talented defensive lineman, but there is no one in the
28:35
Speaker 1: league that plays harder. And if your effort, which if
28:38
Speaker 1: your effort's going to be elite, the only way that's
28:40
Speaker 1: possible is you got to be in great shape. Jimmy Johnson,
28:43
Speaker 1: fatigue makes cowards of us all. I don't care who
28:45
Speaker 1: you are in, in football, in any sport. If you're
28:49
Speaker 1: not in good shape, you're going to get tired and
28:51
Speaker 1: not play as well. And in football where violence and
28:54
Speaker 1: physicality and contact matters, you're going to get less tough.
28:58
Speaker 1: because you're exhausted huffing and puffing. But go to a
29:00
Speaker 1: hardcore workout, right? If you're a little out of shape
29:03
Speaker 1: and you go to some CrossFit thing, you know, you're
29:05
Speaker 1: 20 minutes in, you're huffing and puffing, puking in the corner.
29:08
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're Chuck Lidell. Like, you're not much,
29:11
Speaker 1: you know, nothing you can really do. And I do
29:15
Speaker 1: think the one thing Mike McDonald, who, listen, they gave
29:18
Speaker 1: enough some points. Obviously, they got smoked by Mariota. And
29:21
Speaker 1: then I thought it was pretty hollow, some of those
29:24
Speaker 1: stats by Justin Herbert in the second half. But there
29:27
Speaker 1: is no disputing the effort and the physicality in which
29:30
Speaker 1: this team plays with is pretty special. And I think
29:34
Speaker 1: that's a defining attribute of any good team. Like when
29:37
Speaker 1: you think of a lot of the Patriot teams over
29:39
Speaker 1: the course of the Belichick. dynasty, I feel like they
29:42
Speaker 1: were all overachievers. I'd say Tom is one of the
29:46
Speaker 1: greatest overachievers in the history of sports. He might be
29:49
Speaker 1: number one. When you think, who's the greatest overachiever in
29:52
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL? I think it's the greatest player.
29:55
Speaker 1: I think it's Tom Brady. You could argue Tiger Woods
29:59
Speaker 1: is an overachiever. I think overachieving is a quality that
30:03
Speaker 1: great players have. And sometimes when you're given great physical attributes,
30:09
Speaker 1: you can become one of the best players of all time, right?
30:13
Speaker 1: But like Randy Moss, like sometimes he tried, sometimes he didn't.
30:16
Speaker 1: And then when he got locked in, it was like, oh,
30:18
Speaker 1: he got with the Patriots, 24 touchdowns, like unstoppable. Because
30:23
Speaker 1: it's kind of a mindset. It's kind of what the
30:24
Speaker 1: Chiefs have got back to this year. It's like, did
30:27
Speaker 1: we run out of gas? Did we start feeling ourselves
30:29
Speaker 1: a little bit? What do they play like right now?
30:31
Speaker 1: A team with a chip on their shoulder. They're playing
30:33
Speaker 1: like a team that has never won a championship. They're
30:36
Speaker 1: playing with more energy and effort than when you watch
30:39
Speaker 1: the Bills who are trying to get there, at least
30:42
Speaker 1: based on the last couple of weeks. So I just
30:45
Speaker 1: thought that was a good line. And I'm fascinated to
30:49
Speaker 1: watch this game because the one thing about Seattle is
30:54
Speaker 1: It's hard to unsee what happened at the end of
30:56
Speaker 1: last year. Now, I get the 49ers had injuries, but
31:00
Speaker 1: they just absolutely demolished them. And the offense, which Brock
31:04
Speaker 1: Purdy's the only quarterback in the league that hasn't been sacked.
31:08
Speaker 1: And honestly, it doesn't feel like he's really been that close.
31:11
Speaker 1: The 49ers offensive line, Trent Williams, even at his age,
31:15
Speaker 1: is still an excellent player. But the other four guys
31:18
Speaker 1: are always questioning. Like, how good are these guys? And
31:21
Speaker 1: this is a scheme thing. that the Shanahan mindset is
31:26
Speaker 1: because I'm not looking to move you off a spot, usually.
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm more positionally blocking you. So they have looked for
31:36
Speaker 1: offensive linemen historically in this scheme that are more athletically
31:41
Speaker 1: based than power based. So if I can get you
31:44
Speaker 1: running outside zone either way, the play action stuff, as
31:48
Speaker 1: long as you can keep your body in front of them,
31:50
Speaker 1: I don't need you to be Larry Allen. And that's
31:53
Speaker 1: where when the offense works, the offensive line looks like
31:56
Speaker 1: you've got a bunch of pro bowlers. Even though you
31:58
Speaker 1: start looking individually at the people, you're like, eh, they're
32:01
Speaker 1: not as good. I remember Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning had
32:04
Speaker 1: some random guys over the years with Howard Mudd playing
32:07
Speaker 1: offensive line for him. Because there was a lot of
32:09
Speaker 1: play action, boots, waggles, shit works. But when you're just like, hey,
32:14
Speaker 1: I'm down 10, I'm down 20, I'm dropping back every play,
32:17
Speaker 1: you hold on that ball a little bit, most of
32:19
Speaker 1: those individual players aren't going to be able to hold
32:22
Speaker 1: up against the better players. And that's what makes this matchup.
32:27
Speaker 1: The 49ers guard center guard, if they get into one-on-one
32:31
Speaker 1: situations when Brock Purdy is down a couple touchdowns, not
32:35
Speaker 1: going to be able to block Leonard Williams. But if
32:37
Speaker 1: they can not dictate the terms and keep the game
32:40
Speaker 1: close or have a lead and dictate the terms running
32:44
Speaker 1: the ball, you can control and neutralize those players, which
32:49
Speaker 1: is extremely key. Because the last two times they played,
32:52
Speaker 1: they were just down. And they were getting there. I mean,
32:54
Speaker 1: the playoff game was a massacre. But even the final
32:58
Speaker 1: game of the season, I think the final score was 13-3.
33:02
Speaker 1: Maybe it finished 20-3. It felt like it was 100-0.
33:04
Speaker 1: They got demolished. So, just a great game. And the
33:09
Speaker 1: best part about this is, like, elite OC, elite DC,
33:14
Speaker 1: who just happened to be the head coaches. Just a
33:17
Speaker 1: great chess match. It's what's going to be awesome about
33:20
Speaker 1: the next Bears-Vikings game. I want to see Ben Johnson
33:22
Speaker 1: against Flores. I want to see that again in the
33:26
Speaker 1: dome in a controlled environment. So Aaron Rodgers just wouldn't
33:31
Speaker 1: take the bite. He's like, me and McCarthy talked about it,
33:34
Speaker 1: which I said this when the incident happened on Thursday
33:38
Speaker 1: Night Football. It's like old married couples, like their interactions
33:44
Speaker 1: are probably a little different than most. I think there's
33:48
Speaker 1: probably some truth to it. It's not as big a
33:50
Speaker 1: deal as we all reacted to, partly because we've never
33:55
Speaker 1: seen anything quite like that. I felt like Aaron's tantrum
33:59
Speaker 1: went up a level because I think he's comfortable with Mike,
34:04
Speaker 1: and I just think it's pretty rare. I mean, I
34:07
Speaker 1: don't ever remember seeing it. I'm sure it's happened. We
34:09
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. Maybe people are covering their mouth. A
34:12
Speaker 1: coach calling the guy the asshole. Now, I think in
34:14
Speaker 1: a personnel meeting, in talking about players, you say that
34:18
Speaker 1: word all the time. But just standing there when Aaron's
34:21
Speaker 1: acting like a child, like my little guy throwing a
34:24
Speaker 1: tantrum because I took away his toy, it's just a
34:28
Speaker 1: natural word that flows out of your mouth because you've
34:32
Speaker 1: been around him forever. Like, do I think McCarthy would
34:35
Speaker 1: have said that to a quarterback doing the same thing
34:38
Speaker 1: who's in year one with Mike? Probably not. But you're
34:41
Speaker 1: more inclined to say that because... of the long history
34:45
Speaker 1: and all the negative things that you've been around and
34:47
Speaker 1: dealt with this guy because he can be kind of moody,
34:51
Speaker 1: which I'll defend him. I can be too. Most people
34:54
Speaker 1: I know can. It kind of comes with the territory. Now,
34:57
Speaker 1: at quarterback, you'd like a little bit more steady, but
35:00
Speaker 1: at this point in time at 42 years old, I
35:02
Speaker 1: think Aaron turns 43 in December. His patience level and
35:09
Speaker 1: his willingness to The other thing is, when you're on,
35:13
Speaker 1: like this is hole 18 for Aaron. This is it.
35:16
Speaker 1: So I do wonder if the urgency and his willingness
35:20
Speaker 1: to try to hide things, like his urgency is at
35:23
Speaker 1: an all-time high, and his willingness to pretend or hide
35:27
Speaker 1: anything is completely gone. Like 10 years ago, is Aaron
35:32
Speaker 1: hopping up and down on this island? Probably not. Or
35:35
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. But at this point
35:37
Speaker 1: in time, if you told me that happens again, I
35:39
Speaker 1: would believe you. I did see a mock draft today
35:42
Speaker 1: that the first quarterback off the board was CJ Carr.
35:46
Speaker 1: I think it was the fifth or sixth pick. I
35:49
Speaker 1: tell everybody, we need to pump the brakes. To just
35:53
Speaker 1: assume that quarterbacks are going to, like four quarterbacks are
35:57
Speaker 1: going to go in the top five, you have to
35:58
Speaker 1: let it play out. No position in the draft ebbs
36:04
Speaker 1: and flows and changes more like a stock market than quarterback.
36:08
Speaker 1: Because all the other positions, if Jeremiah Smith would have
36:12
Speaker 1: sat out the season instead of doing what he's doing,
36:15
Speaker 1: which is dominating. But let's say Jeremiah Smith would have
36:18
Speaker 1: walked into Ryan Day's office in mid-August and said, Coach,
36:24
Speaker 1: I just don't want to get injured. I don't want
36:26
Speaker 1: to go to class. I'm sitting out the year. Would
36:31
Speaker 1: have been a big headline, big story, but I promise
36:33
Speaker 1: you this. I don't think anything would happen to a
36:35
Speaker 1: draft stock. He would have been a locked top five pick.
36:39
Speaker 1: if Colin Simmons or the corner from Notre Dame, if
36:43
Speaker 1: those guys had played and played bad, they'd still probably
36:47
Speaker 1: go 18, 22, 25. When you're a quarterback and you
36:55
Speaker 1: play poorly, your stock plummets. When you just play okay,
37:00
Speaker 1: people start nitpicking you. Like, let's go back and look.
37:04
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams was just an elite talent. He would go
37:06
Speaker 1: number one if he was in this draft. Jaden Daniels
37:09
Speaker 1: went too. Jaden Daniels won the Heisman. Michael Penix went eight.
37:14
Speaker 1: Michael Penix dominated the Pac-12 and led Washington to the
37:18
Speaker 1: national championship. Bo Nix was like shattering passing records at Oregon.
37:24
Speaker 1: So like to just think that these guys, just because
37:27
Speaker 1: their names and they have some physical characteristics, well, sellers
37:31
Speaker 1: can run and this guy can throw. It's like, okay,
37:34
Speaker 1: play well. Because if you do not play well, Carson Beck,
37:38
Speaker 1: I thought the guy was being undrafted free agent. Then
37:40
Speaker 1: what happens? Played well at Miami. Actually played even better
37:44
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. What happened? His stock went from being
37:46
Speaker 1: a seventh round undrafted free agent to a third rounder.
37:50
Speaker 1: So things can change like that. It's pretty rare. Like
37:53
Speaker 1: even Ty Simpson, that's a pretty polarizing guy. And I
37:57
Speaker 1: think most people around the league will be like, I
37:58
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that comfortable doing that. And we'll see if
38:00
Speaker 1: that plays out and plays well for him. But even
38:02
Speaker 1: Ty Simpson's one year, they didn't go to the playoffs.
38:05
Speaker 1: They won a playoff game on the road. Speaking of Bama.
38:09
Speaker 1: I hope that game doesn't get canceled. I was really
38:11
Speaker 1: looking forward to watching that. It really was. That would
38:15
Speaker 1: have really pissed me off. I don't even know. Honestly,
38:18
Speaker 1: beside the headline, I didn't really read much. They cancel
38:21
Speaker 1: or postpone the game. You play it on Sunday? I
38:25
Speaker 1: don't even know what you do. That's a major problem.
38:28
Speaker 1: I'd play it Friday. I'll tell you who does not
38:30
Speaker 1: want that postponed. ABC, ESPN, Disney. That thing is going
38:36
Speaker 1: to get some eyeballs. The other thing that's happening in
38:39
Speaker 1: college football is, you know, I saw that next week
38:44
Speaker 1: they have multiple 9 a.m. games with some big SEC
38:47
Speaker 1: games that, you know, historically in that time slot, part
38:53
Speaker 1: of big noon kickoff, that was a throwaway spot for games.
38:57
Speaker 1: So Fox in the Big Ten deal, it's like, we're
39:01
Speaker 1: going to do major games here. And it's worked well
39:04
Speaker 1: for them because their competition hasn't been great in that
39:06
Speaker 1: time slot. And next week, Indiana Ohio State which is
39:10
Speaker 1: I mean probably the best game of the regular season
39:15
Speaker 1: on the slate now that Michigan sucks Michigan Ohio State
39:20
Speaker 1: in theory is your biggest game if they're both good
39:22
Speaker 1: but Michigan sucks and if the game is in Oregon
39:28
Speaker 1: you can't play a 9 a.m kickoff game so it's
39:30
Speaker 1: like it's got to be one of like the Indiana,
39:33
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan's to play the 9 a.m. kickoff. This
39:50
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a mailbag question, but could you
39:52
Speaker 1: discuss something on the pod? Do you think it's a
39:54
Speaker 1: tad bit sexist that all the criticism Carly Ursae Gordon
39:59
Speaker 1: is getting for being on the sideline? If she was
40:01
Speaker 1: a man, would people be throwing these hot takes about
40:04
Speaker 1: she needs to stay in her lane? I respect the
40:07
Speaker 1: fact that she is trying to learn the business. She
40:09
Speaker 1: isn't play calling. She is taking notes and asking questions.
40:13
Speaker 1: Shouldn't everyone want an owner this engaged rather than just
40:16
Speaker 1: sitting in the box? I actually think it's the opposite.
40:21
Speaker 1: I think she has gotten a complete pass relative to
40:26
Speaker 1: what a dude would get. If Stan Kroenke or Jed York,
40:32
Speaker 1: who's currently suspended, or Jerry Jones or Jeffrey Lurie was
40:35
Speaker 1: doing the same, they would get eviscerated. If there was
40:42
Speaker 1: a pregame video of one of the prominent owners a dude,
40:49
Speaker 1: which I guess they all are going through the place,
40:54
Speaker 1: the local radio. If that happened in Philadelphia with Jeffrey
40:57
Speaker 1: Lurie or Bob craft in Boston or John Mara in
41:00
Speaker 1: New York, they would, every human would shit on that.
41:04
Speaker 1: They would get, it would be embarrassing. Honestly, I actually
41:08
Speaker 1: think she gets a pretty big pass. It's like, okay,
41:12
Speaker 1: want to learn the business? Well, that's what Monday through
41:15
Speaker 1: Saturdays for like what, It's like, well, I want to
41:19
Speaker 1: be a successful... Well, I've seen you be a successful
41:21
Speaker 1: organization when your dad was in charge and Bill Polian
41:25
Speaker 1: and Tony Dungy and Peyton Manning ran the thing. Like,
41:27
Speaker 1: what are you going to tell them? They should run
41:29
Speaker 1: a different route on a different play? Because none of
41:33
Speaker 1: the owners know the playbook. They don't give a shit.
41:36
Speaker 1: It's the GM and coach's job to figure that out.
41:40
Speaker 1: You're never going to understand it, even if you try.
41:43
Speaker 1: So I don't even... I do think it's a little...
41:49
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to quite describe it. Like,
41:53
Speaker 1: for show, a little look at me. How could it
41:57
Speaker 1: not be a little look at me? Literally every other owner,
42:00
Speaker 1: I would say in all of sports, does the same thing.
42:03
Speaker 1: In football, they sit in the box. In basketball, they
42:06
Speaker 1: sit somewhere near the sideline. Mark Cuban used to get
42:11
Speaker 1: ripped to shreds by people making fun of him, sitting
42:14
Speaker 1: on the bench and acting like a coach. So I
42:18
Speaker 1: would say it's the opposite. I think her being a woman,
42:21
Speaker 1: if it was Jim Irsay's son, Bill, if it was
42:25
Speaker 1: Bill Irsay, who is now taking over the Indianapolis Colts
42:29
Speaker 1: doing that, every human being alive would call him a clown.
42:35
Speaker 1: But dressed up with the headset, I mean, give me
42:37
Speaker 1: a break. That's my take. Give me a break. Learning
42:42
Speaker 1: the business. Hasn't she been around the business her entire life?
42:46
Speaker 1: What's he learning? I don't know. I think it's pretty stupid.
42:53
Speaker 1: If the Eagles were to continue to have a disastrous
42:55
Speaker 1: season and Mr. Lurie and Howie move on from Sirianni,
42:59
Speaker 1: who could you see being a fit for the next
43:02
Speaker 1: head coach? Could you potentially see Gruden returning to a
43:06
Speaker 1: coaching spot because he's already been there a long time?
43:09
Speaker 1: He coached in the late 90s. Is it better to
43:11
Speaker 1: go hotshot coordinator or someone who has head coaching experience?
43:16
Speaker 1: Next question I got, which is going to lead me
43:18
Speaker 1: into the name that someone brought up to me. If
43:22
Speaker 1: the Eagles opens up, I'd probably monitor what the Colts
43:26
Speaker 1: do with Shane Steichen and maybe hire him. There is
43:30
Speaker 1: history there, and he can call the plays. The Eagles
43:34
Speaker 1: are 100% hiring an offensive coordinator. And when I say
43:38
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, a head coach that can be the offensive coordinator.
43:41
Speaker 1: That's what they did with Andy Reid. That's what they
43:43
Speaker 1: did with Chip Kelly. That's what they did with Doug Peterson.
43:46
Speaker 1: It's in theory what they did with Nick Sirianni. They
43:49
Speaker 1: are an offensive-oriented organization when it comes to head coaches.
43:52
Speaker 1: That's their history. That's Howie's history. And I do think
43:55
Speaker 1: that's the right thing to do. Because even if it's like, well,
43:58
Speaker 1: go get Mike Tomlin. Well, let's say Mike Tomlin got
44:01
Speaker 1: the best OC known to man. Well, if that guy
44:03
Speaker 1: has success in a year or two, he's gone. And
44:06
Speaker 1: you're just in the same situation you were with Sirianni.
44:09
Speaker 1: So before someone brought up the name Shane Steichen to
44:12
Speaker 1: me and you bring it up in your question, I
44:15
Speaker 1: just started thinking, would Howie hire a Declan Doyle, Davis Webb,
44:21
Speaker 1: that type name. I'm not saying those individuals, but who
44:25
Speaker 1: are the Liam Coens? Who are the Kyle Shanahan, Sean
44:28
Speaker 1: McVeigh's right now coordinating? Who's the next Ben Johnson? I'd
44:32
Speaker 1: argue as we sit here today, it does not exist.
44:35
Speaker 1: There are definitely some defensive guys, but they're not going
44:39
Speaker 1: to hire defense. So you go, well, who are the
44:42
Speaker 1: offensive guys? I think I brought this up the other day.
44:45
Speaker 1: I know how he's pretty close with Sark. Now Sark
44:48
Speaker 1: has a job where he's the boss. He's making a
44:50
Speaker 1: ton of money. It's basically like an NFL franchise in Texas,
44:54
Speaker 1: but maybe he's tired of the NIL. Now I'm not
44:57
Speaker 1: even saying he would, that would be something that how
44:59
Speaker 1: he would want to hire. It's a pretty big transition
45:02
Speaker 1: Sark's coach. But to me, I just thought of that
45:04
Speaker 1: because like he makes more, his work with Matt Ryan
45:09
Speaker 1: understands quarterbacks, understands offense. You just, They'll have unlimited money
45:13
Speaker 1: to hire a Vic Fangio type, keep Vic there, whatever,
45:17
Speaker 1: because I just didn't see that guy in the NFL.
45:19
Speaker 1: But if Shane Steichen was available, who Howie already knows,
45:22
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Lurie already knows, also Jalen Hurts could be your
45:25
Speaker 1: quarterback next year as you kind of transition the new roster.
45:29
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Ursae has figured out, based
45:32
Speaker 1: on all of her research on the sideline, if Shane
45:36
Speaker 1: Steichen is worthy given a contract extension to or not, but...
45:41
Speaker 1: I would say that that name would definitely be near
45:44
Speaker 1: the top of the list if he was available. The
45:47
Speaker 1: more I think about it, Carly Ursae gets an absolute,
45:51
Speaker 1: I mean, an enormous pass. I don't think there would
45:55
Speaker 1: be a podcast in America that talks about football, a
45:59
Speaker 1: show in America that talks about football, who wouldn't destroy
46:05
Speaker 1: the owner all the time, especially in a pretty big,
46:07
Speaker 1: like if he was an owner for a big franchise.
46:10
Speaker 1: standing on the sideline with a headset, looking over plays.
46:14
Speaker 1: And I understand, it's like, well, Chris Ballard and Shane
46:17
Speaker 1: Syken say it's awesome. No shit. She signs their checks.
46:21
Speaker 1: And I don't blame her. She can do whatever she wants.
46:23
Speaker 1: It's her team. She's a boss. Like, I don't resent
46:26
Speaker 1: her power by any means. She can do whatever he
46:28
Speaker 1: wants or she wants. But let's not act like literally
46:32
Speaker 1: no one does that. I mean, nobody does that. It's
46:37
Speaker 1: a little theatrical, I think. So it's a little... I mean,
46:42
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. I truly believe that. What if
46:48
Speaker 1: James Dolan was just doing something like that? What if
46:51
Speaker 1: George Steinbrenner back in the day was like, I'm just
46:54
Speaker 1: going to sit in the dugout. My man. There have
46:59
Speaker 1: been several episodes when you've acknowledged with gratitude and praise
47:03
Speaker 1: how getting hooked up with Colin was a big driver
47:06
Speaker 1: in your exposure and listener growth. Curious if Colin has
47:09
Speaker 1: similar partnership agreements with you and other individuals he brings
47:14
Speaker 1: in to the family. Is it like Dr. Dre's scenario
47:17
Speaker 1: where he discovered and produced Eminem, Snoop, 50, and so on?
47:23
Speaker 1: And he gets a piece of your revenue's ongoing success.
47:25
Speaker 1: And if so, who are Dre's squad? Do you like
47:28
Speaker 1: him yourself? I mean, that's... I wouldn't... Snoop Dogg, Doggy
47:33
Speaker 1: Style is... I remember I bought that I bought the
47:37
Speaker 1: tape and then I bought the CD. One time I
47:39
Speaker 1: left it in my dad's truck and I went to
47:42
Speaker 1: look for it and I think he had thrown it
47:45
Speaker 1: out the window. Some fucking bangers on Doggystyle. I think
47:51
Speaker 1: it's pretty simple on this one. Most human beings, you know,
47:56
Speaker 1: obviously someone like Colin or Dr. Dre, these are public figures,
48:00
Speaker 1: but I would imagine most of you listening, unless you
48:03
Speaker 1: aren't you know, run your own shop and own your
48:06
Speaker 1: own business. And even then, you need someone, especially when
48:11
Speaker 1: you're younger, to take a chance on you, to help
48:15
Speaker 1: you out, to put you in the right direction, to
48:17
Speaker 1: give you an opportunity. So, yeah, I mean, I've been
48:23
Speaker 1: partners with him for a long time. Got a good
48:26
Speaker 1: deal going. I would say mine's not like a record
48:29
Speaker 1: deal in the sense of like, If they just disappeared,
48:33
Speaker 1: they'd own me for life or one of those things.
48:35
Speaker 1: That's not the way it is. But yeah, lucrative for
48:39
Speaker 1: all parties involved. There's no doubt about that. But I
48:44
Speaker 1: got very lucky back to when he started me. When
48:46
Speaker 1: I got into radio, he started having me on his
48:49
Speaker 1: ESPN show. And then it just grew from there. But
48:52
Speaker 1: I literally don't know a human in my life who
48:55
Speaker 1: I would say is having any sort of success. that
49:00
Speaker 1: didn't in their twenties or early thirties meet someone to
49:03
Speaker 1: help catapult them to wherever they wanted to go. Like
49:07
Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult to do things by yourself. I mean,
49:11
Speaker 1: it's borderline impossible. I would say, I was thinking about
49:14
Speaker 1: this yesterday. Like if you do domino or butterfly effect,
49:21
Speaker 1: and then the dominoes that happen for your life like
49:23
Speaker 1: in coaching because I was thinking about like um you
49:27
Speaker 1: know Belichick and the run that we witnessed with Brady
49:31
Speaker 1: and Tom but like what if Bill Parcells and Belichick
49:36
Speaker 1: never linked up And Belichick never became the defensive coordinator
49:41
Speaker 1: for a team that had the greatest defensive player of
49:44
Speaker 1: all time and was like beating Joe Montana. But instead,
49:47
Speaker 1: Bill's defensive coordinator opportunity was with some other random coach
49:51
Speaker 1: that no one even remembers today. Like where his life goes.
49:57
Speaker 1: You know, or Nick Saban who had worked with Belichick's
50:00
Speaker 1: dad who got hired by Belichick and then that kind
50:03
Speaker 1: of put him on the map as defensive coordinator and
50:05
Speaker 1: then he got these college jobs or even when he
50:08
Speaker 1: told the story about, you know, this guy taking a
50:12
Speaker 1: chance on me because I'd already worked there. Yeah, I
50:16
Speaker 1: think we all fall under that. Obviously, the best cases
50:19
Speaker 1: are Dr. Dre discovering Eminem, you know, or Clive Davis
50:24
Speaker 1: going to a club and here in 19, like early
50:27
Speaker 1: 1980s and here in Whitney Houston. I mean, those, I
50:31
Speaker 1: think Colin, the way he was discovered to get his
50:34
Speaker 1: job from Portland to ESPN is one of the executive's
50:37
Speaker 1: They were looking to fill, was it Kornheiser or Dan
50:39
Speaker 1: Patrick's spot, was in the area driving through Oregon and
50:44
Speaker 1: heard Colin. I'm pretty sure that's the story. I was like,
50:48
Speaker 1: who the hell is this guy? And obviously the rest
50:51
Speaker 1: is history. So I would say I'm more like, I'd
50:57
Speaker 1: be like Exhibit. I used to like Exhibit. I wonder
51:03
Speaker 1: what happened to Exhibit. I was almost saying MTV Cribs,
51:10
Speaker 1: but he did, what was the car show he did? Oh,
51:12
Speaker 1: Pimp My Ride. It's one of the times we live
51:16
Speaker 1: in sometimes. Pimp My Ride was sweet. It was actually
51:21
Speaker 1: a cool show. I enjoyed it way too much, actually.
51:25
Speaker 1: MTV Cribs was really ahead of its time. I feel
51:29
Speaker 1: like now, it's pretty crazy now. You see these stories
51:33
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years of these guys, because clearly,
51:35
Speaker 1: if you're in the NFL, it's like, CeeDee Lamb's house
51:38
Speaker 1: was robbed. When he was playing the Bengals on Monday
51:40
Speaker 1: Night Football. Or Joe Burrow's house was robbed. When he
51:42
Speaker 1: was playing the Rams. Like, pretty clear when you're gone.
51:47
Speaker 1: If I were one of these guys, especially living in
51:50
Speaker 1: a big-ass pad, if I was a quarterback, I think I'd...
51:54
Speaker 1: Away games? I think we might go armed guards. Talk
51:58
Speaker 1: about ski masks a lot, but why is no one
52:01
Speaker 1: talking about the ski masks taking place with the Chargers?
52:04
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is an absolute cringe person. He runs out on
52:08
Speaker 1: the field like he can still play and wears wide
52:10
Speaker 1: receiver gloves to help Herbert warm up and absolutely overly
52:15
Speaker 1: glazes Herbert to the point where it's getting weird. Go Broncos.
52:21
Speaker 1: It does feel like he's falling apart a little bit mentally.
52:25
Speaker 1: Like when you hear him talk, I saw someone comparing
52:28
Speaker 1: his interviews to Sleepy Joe in the latter couple years
52:32
Speaker 1: of Biden when there wasn't much up there. If you
52:35
Speaker 1: watch Jim now in some of these press conferences, some
52:38
Speaker 1: of these interviews, and I've always been a big Jim
52:42
Speaker 1: Harbaugh supporter, but there is a chance he's just washed
52:48
Speaker 1: and it's over. I do have to acknowledge that. And
52:52
Speaker 1: then you got McDaniel. That's Weird deal with those two.
52:58
Speaker 1: I don't know how high on the horse the Broncos
53:02
Speaker 1: can get, though. You guys, season hasn't exactly looked like
53:07
Speaker 1: the 1997 John Elway-led squad. So let's pump the brakes
53:11
Speaker 1: a little bit there, but I hear you. The scheme asked, though,
53:14
Speaker 1: for Harbaugh. Harbaugh delivered. Got there, they were in shambles.
53:20
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley got fired on a night, I think the
53:21
Speaker 1: Raiders beat him like 60-7 on Thursday Night Football. Got
53:26
Speaker 1: fired the next day. So did the Telesco. Harbaugh came
53:30
Speaker 1: in next year, they were in the playoffs. Last year,
53:32
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He's been pretty valuable to the Chargers
53:36
Speaker 1: to make them respectable again. But this year, yeah, it's
53:39
Speaker 1: kind of a disaster. Hard to be an all-ski-mass team, though.
53:45
Speaker 1: Like Shane Beamer with South Carolina. I think there are
53:50
Speaker 1: less than 10 or 12 teams spending more in NIL
53:53
Speaker 1: than them. They're spending like over $ 30 million on their roster.
53:58
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm not getting the return on investment here, buddy.
54:04
Speaker 1: Only the Dolphins are spending less than the Chargers. So
54:07
Speaker 1: like on this current team of actual cash on the team,
54:10
Speaker 1: let's not ask like Dean Spanos is, you know, Mark
54:14
Speaker 1: Walter with the Dodgers here. But I hear what you're saying.
54:21
Speaker 1: Big Packer fan. I feel like my boys... are circling
54:24
Speaker 1: the drain. Kind of an agreement there. They take on
54:27
Speaker 1: the Bears this weekend, and the difference between Ben Johnson
54:30
Speaker 1: and Matt LaFleur will be on full display. How many
54:33
Speaker 1: wins can the Packers have and still fire LaFleur? I'm
54:37
Speaker 1: worried that they would eke out eight or nine this
54:40
Speaker 1: year and give him another shot. They need to rip
54:43
Speaker 1: the Band-Aid off. Well, let's go to the old Packers schedule.
54:51
Speaker 1: So we got the Bears. I think this thing could
54:54
Speaker 1: get weird and ugly. And I think the best case
54:57
Speaker 1: scenario if you're a Packer fan and you want him gone,
55:00
Speaker 1: these two Bear games, they play the Bears Christmas on Netflix.
55:05
Speaker 1: You want to get absolutely embarrassed by Ben Johnson. Because
55:10
Speaker 1: you could lose the Cowboys or the Panthers or all
55:12
Speaker 1: these other teams. When the Bears, your rival, have hired
55:17
Speaker 1: this new coach, this new hotshot, and he starts kicking
55:20
Speaker 1: your ass, So last year, as he got a good team,
55:23
Speaker 1: they beat you two out of three times once in
55:24
Speaker 1: the playoffs. In the playoff game, it'd be like, well,
55:26
Speaker 1: we were missing a bunch of guys. They had the lead.
55:28
Speaker 1: It's like, Matt, you were in full control. So to me,
55:33
Speaker 1: you'd want to lose these games by a combined like
55:35
Speaker 1: 50 points. As much as this would suck, you'd want
55:39
Speaker 1: the Bears to beat you at Lambeau like 40 to 7.
55:42
Speaker 1: Absolutely destroy you. And then play the Cowboys and lose again.
55:46
Speaker 1: Like just can't stop anybody. The Cowboys, the Lions, the Panthers,
55:52
Speaker 1: at the Patriots, Flores and the Vikings, at the Rams, Bills,
55:59
Speaker 1: at the Bears. I don't think they're winning eight games
56:03
Speaker 1: the way they've been playing. I would say this could
56:06
Speaker 1: have five. I'd say five and 12. Okay, two more.
56:12
Speaker 1: If the Colts miss the playoffs again, and this year
56:17
Speaker 1: and they clean house, Do you think Howie would hire
56:20
Speaker 1: Shane Steichen as the head coach? He could offer Steichen
56:23
Speaker 1: the OC with Tomlin or McDermott as the head coach.
56:27
Speaker 1: But again, then you lose Steichen. Have the years with
56:30
Speaker 1: the Colts tarnished Steichen's reputation or would Howie and the
56:34
Speaker 1: Eagles fans accept him back? I think Shane Steichen, if
56:40
Speaker 1: they're fired again, depending on how she thinks after looking
56:43
Speaker 1: at the plays in the pregame, Stefanski is a good example.
56:50
Speaker 1: you know, he immediately got hired. And maybe I'm wrong.
56:55
Speaker 1: I view Steichen more highly than Kevin Stefanski. Like, if
56:59
Speaker 1: you told me, I'm a GM, they're both available, I
57:02
Speaker 1: would hire Steichen over Stefanski. Now, maybe after I did
57:05
Speaker 1: the vetting process and talked to a bunch of people
57:08
Speaker 1: and reached out, maybe I would be swayed the other way.
57:11
Speaker 1: But my gut sitting here following football, watching those guys
57:16
Speaker 1: coach forever, I feel like I would pick Shane Steichen. Now,
57:19
Speaker 1: I'll say this about Stefanski. He's doing a pretty good
57:21
Speaker 1: job after the last two games. We'll see how it
57:23
Speaker 1: plays out moving forward, but Shane Steichen would 100% get
57:28
Speaker 1: head coaching interviews. And depending on the openings, you're telling
57:36
Speaker 1: me if they fired Todd Bowles that Jason Light wouldn't
57:39
Speaker 1: be interested to get an offensive coordinator with Baker Mayfield
57:41
Speaker 1: and try to resurrect his career? You're telling me if
57:45
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's fired and They want a lean offense instead
57:49
Speaker 1: of going like a Mike Tomlin, right? Because they want
57:52
Speaker 1: an offensive guy with Jaden. They wouldn't be interested after
57:54
Speaker 1: kind of cycling through a couple offensive coordinators. So I
57:57
Speaker 1: think the one powerful thing that Steichen's going to have
58:00
Speaker 1: on the open market, and this is what Stefanski has, like,
58:02
Speaker 1: I call the offense. I guess Stefanski technically does what
58:05
Speaker 1: Tommy Reese does. So Steichen would have that more than Stefanski. Like,
58:09
Speaker 1: offense is my baby. So... It depends how many openings
58:14
Speaker 1: there are. There have been a ton the last two years,
58:16
Speaker 1: so there might not be like seven. There might just
58:19
Speaker 1: be a couple. I think it's pretty clear Washington is
58:22
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's in trouble. I'd say Todd Bowles, good as gone.
58:27
Speaker 1: I'd say Sirianni and LaFleur, those places have a chance
58:30
Speaker 1: to get really, really weird. They already are weird. They
58:33
Speaker 1: can get really weird. The Jets are always a possibility,
58:37
Speaker 1: but I'd have a hard time touching that thing. Unless
58:39
Speaker 1: they have the number one pick and one of these
58:41
Speaker 1: guys really establish themselves. But I don't think Shane Steichen
58:47
Speaker 1: will be an offensive coordinator next year. I think he'd
58:49
Speaker 1: be a head coach if he got fired. And also, like,
58:52
Speaker 1: I keep saying this, Mike Tomlin be the number one
58:55
Speaker 1: pick for people. Who's to say Mike Tomlin wants to
58:57
Speaker 1: come back? What if Mike Tomlin just stays, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the media playing Minecraft for a couple years? There's
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Speaker 1: no guarantee that he's just throwing his name back in
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Speaker 1: the ring. He might, and if he does, then he'll
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Speaker 1: get hired immediately. But I don't know. I mean, I
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Speaker 1: don't feel, I don't lean one way or the other.
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Speaker 1: My guess is he does. Like, Sean McDermott is one
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Speaker 1: guy that wants back in. Sean McDermott is going to
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Speaker 1: be interviewing. Sean McDermott wants to be a coach in 2027.
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Speaker 1: And my guess is he will be. Because again, the competition,
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Speaker 1: who he's going up against. Look at last year. The
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Speaker 1: Cardinals ended up with Michael Aflor. Big Bills fan. I've
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Speaker 1: been underwhelmed by our secondary. Super happy with the D-line.
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Speaker 1: I have faith in Leonard. Question. Is there any cornerbacks
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Speaker 1: that could be available to grab at the trade deadline?
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Speaker 1: Or do we have to deal with this for this
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Speaker 1: upcoming year until we improve in the offseason? Well, typically...
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Speaker 1: I mean, a big-time corner, Jalen Ramsey was traded. It
1:00:01
Speaker 1: cost two ones. Obviously, Porter Jr. was just traded. It
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Speaker 1: cost a second-round pick. So, like, a high-priced elite corner,
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Speaker 1: they're not often on the market, and if they are,
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Speaker 1: it's really, really expensive. There are always, like, mid-tier guys,
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Speaker 1: you know, what I would consider, like, fifth, sixth, seventh rounders. But, like,
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Speaker 1: a plug-and-play high-end corner being on the market, very, very unlikely.
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Speaker 1: Because if you look at the top, the bad teams,
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Speaker 1: so the teams that in theory would trade some people, like...
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Speaker 1: The Titans. I mean, are the Texans, would they trade Lasseter?
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Speaker 1: Maybe they would. The Chargers. Their secondary looks terrible. Commanders.
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Speaker 1: The Packers. I mean, none of these teams... have any
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Speaker 1: DBs that you would want. So typically when you think
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Speaker 1: about the guys that get traded during the deadline, for
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Speaker 1: like normal trades, right? Wide receivers often, maybe a Pat,
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Speaker 1: like Khalil Mack's name is a name. Like who would
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Speaker 1: you even want on the Titans? A man like Terry McLaurin,
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Speaker 1: would they be interested in like, could you get like
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Speaker 1: a two and a three for him? Could the Packers punt?
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Speaker 1: What do they really have to punt on? Like Tampa,
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Speaker 1: Chris Godwin is a name. But none of these teams,
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Speaker 1: to me, that are going to be selling have high-end corners.
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Speaker 1: So you drafted the Kentucky kid a couple years ago
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Speaker 1: in the first round. Yeah, your secondary is going to
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Speaker 1: be kind of average. Your D-line's got to be sweet.
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Speaker 1: To me, it comes out of the offense. Your offense
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Speaker 1: has to dominate. Like if the Bills are going to
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Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, they need to have the best
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Speaker 1: offense in the league. They need to have the most
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Speaker 1: explosive offense in the league. In the biggest games, they've
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Speaker 1: got to dominate offensively. there's just never going to be
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Speaker 1: that high end of a defense. These don't have the personnel.
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Speaker 1: But I like Jim Leonard. I've always enjoyed him. I mean,
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Speaker 1: your downfall ultimately last year was Josh missed a couple plays.
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Speaker 1: He had that devastating fumble at the end of the half.
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Speaker 1: He missed that deep post at the end of the game. Like,
1:02:18
Speaker 1: you're going to win or lose because of him. And
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Speaker 1: a timely pick, a timely forced fumble. But your defense
1:02:24
Speaker 1: is never going to be, to me, like Seattle last
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Speaker 1: year or the Ravens a couple years ago. But if
1:02:32
Speaker 1: Josh is humming, it's like, yeah, we got Nikola Jokic.
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Speaker 1: Good luck in stopping us. And if he's on, it's
1:02:39
Speaker 1: going to be very, very tough to beat. That, to me,
1:02:41
Speaker 1: is kind of the mentality for the Bills, which is
1:02:44
Speaker 1: why when they're on, it's really fun to watch. They're
1:02:46
Speaker 1: a very enjoyable team, but also can be a flawed
1:02:48
Speaker 1: team because it's hard to play perfect football in January,
1:02:51
Speaker 1: especially in the weather. But I was a Bills fan.
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Speaker 1: We just got a little off kilter, I'd say, the
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Speaker 1: last couple games. But I'd be pretty confident that he
1:03:02
Speaker 1: gets it back rolling. The Volume.