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AI Laptops, Printer Headaches and the Power Button Debate | EP 491 · TechtalkRadio

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  Speaker 1: The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: this is Harold Perrineau, and you're listening to the Geeks
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  Speaker 1: on the Radio, Tech Talk Radio. Welcome to another episode
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  Speaker 1: of Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Sean DeWeerd.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm Justin Lemme. Had some great comments on last
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  Speaker 1: week's show, Sean. And Justin, especially Justin, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: you want to, you've, you've decided to go off and
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  Speaker 1: maybe buy yourself an RV. Are you, are you still
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  Speaker 1: in that mode? We're, we're looking into it.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't gotten anything serious yet, but yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we were talking about it, but again, talking about what
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  Speaker 3: Sean said last week, you know, definitely look at used
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  Speaker 3: and also looking at this time of year, you know, October, November, December, January,
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  Speaker 3: you Is usually the best time to buy because if
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  Speaker 3: you do buy off a lot, they're trying to get
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  Speaker 3: rid of their inventory before the next year stuff comes in. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we'll probably go look here soon. I got
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  Speaker 3: a couple things that I got to take care of
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  Speaker 3: first coming up this week and next week and everything.
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  Speaker 1: But after that, then, yeah, I'm open to it.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing, too, I saw in a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of research I was doing for you was right now
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  Speaker 2: is a good time to buy it because gas prices
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  Speaker 2: are really high.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so they're not moving as many, right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, people aren't using them, so people aren't finding the
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  Speaker 2: value in them, and they're getting rid of them because
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  Speaker 2: they can't afford the gas.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting. When I was driving in today, I saw one
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  Speaker 1: of the buses, and I was trying to remember the
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  Speaker 1: name of it, the style of bus, a bus RV.
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  Speaker 1: And it was funny because on the back of it,
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  Speaker 1: it had a woodworker's shop, like a bench. And it
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  Speaker 1: was like this guy could just lower this and do
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  Speaker 1: woodworking wherever he was at. It was actually kind of cool. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 3: That's one of those RVs that you sell your house
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  Speaker 3: when you retire and you just travel across the country.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we got Rick Baker, who is great. He's
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  Speaker 1: on our Facebook and comments quite a bit about some
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  Speaker 1: of the stuff we've talked about. So thank you, Rick.
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  Speaker 1: Rick says, Justin, while I don't have an RV, I've
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  Speaker 1: been following Facebook groups and reading about them for years.
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  Speaker 1: After all I've learned, one main feature is what you
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  Speaker 1: really can't see. And this is insulation for a hot
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  Speaker 1: or cold climate. It says, otherwise you have pipe freezing issues,
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  Speaker 1: including sewer or AC can't keep up in the heat.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to relax by watching the TV at night.
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  Speaker 1: The main feature I want is a sofa across from
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  Speaker 1: the TV. So many of the TV off to the side,
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  Speaker 1: which makes no sense to me. Also check the length
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  Speaker 1: of the RV. Some state parks have, wow, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know this, maximum length rules. So he said, depends on
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  Speaker 1: where you plan to go. I would go to RV shows.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: And that was, you know, kind of brought up. So
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  Speaker 1: you can see what you like or don't like by
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  Speaker 1: narrowing your search, Rick. I don't know. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think of that? Is that true about insulation? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the big things are like if you're camping in
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  Speaker 2: the wintertime or in the summertime.
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  Speaker 1: Which is basically half of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Right. If you're not storing it for the wintertime, like
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  Speaker 2: I store mine from November to March.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: We don't use it because there's no sense. We winterize
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  Speaker 2: it by taking all the water out and replacing it
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  Speaker 2: with antifreeze.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, we talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: And storing it at the St. Joseph County Fairgrounds. They
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  Speaker 2: offer a really good deal for storing it indoors all winter.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow. That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: We store it there in one of the 4-H barns.
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  Speaker 2: If you're camping in the wintertime, you need to anticipate
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  Speaker 2: If you don't have power for a period of time,
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  Speaker 2: you have to anticipate pipes freeze. RVs don't have skirting
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  Speaker 2: around the bottom.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: When the wind goes under, it pulls the heat out
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  Speaker 2: from underneath. Your pipes can freeze. Your septic tank can freeze.
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  Speaker 2: Your gray water can freeze, et cetera. So some RVs
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  Speaker 2: have pad heaters.
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  Speaker 1: Can you buy a skirt for an RV?
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  Speaker 2: You can. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The easiest and cheapest solution you can find is you
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  Speaker 2: go to Home Depot, you buy two big eight-foot sheets
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  Speaker 2: of the Dow.
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  Speaker 1: Pink or blue foam board.
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  Speaker 2: And just chop it up in pieces and lay it
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  Speaker 2: around and secure it inside your camper. That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what people do up here in the wintertime and then
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  Speaker 2: provide some sort of electric heat.
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  Speaker 3: So I understand about the winter thing because I would
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  Speaker 3: be doing, honestly, the same thing you are. But I
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  Speaker 3: can see where Rick is coming from. Like, you're living
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  Speaker 3: down in Arizona. It's a year-long commitment. Now, to the
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  Speaker 3: counterpoint of his, where he was talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: doing that in the summer, again, living in the South, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can see 120-degree temps where your AC can't. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to be doing that. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: camping up in the mountains, the Rocky Mountains, where the
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  Speaker 3: altitude is 10,000 feet and the high temperature is 78,
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  Speaker 3: maybe 80, you know, during the summer. So, yeah, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: if I camp down in Arizona, yeah, we're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to bring extra air conditioners or something, but camping
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  Speaker 3: up in the Rocky Mountains where I'm at, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that would be an issue. And then again, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just during the wintertime, just, yeah, winterize it and store it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking, is there one company that
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  Speaker 1: is maybe better than the other? Like, if we wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get somebody on the show, To talk about this
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  Speaker 1: and maybe the technology that's a part of this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me drive five minutes down the road and
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  Speaker 2: find any major RV company in the world that I
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  Speaker 2: find somebody to talk to, right? Right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you could always just pull up one of
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  Speaker 3: these camping YouTubers that, you know, they talk about all
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  Speaker 3: their different campers. And a lot of them are just
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  Speaker 3: dealers themselves. A couple of them that are pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: I think one of the channels that I follow, he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't do strictly RVs, but I think it's called Big RV,
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  Speaker 3: Big Truck or Big Truck, Big RV.
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  Speaker 1: One of the two. So he does a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: different stuff. But he's independent. He's not a dealer.
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  Speaker 3: And he just rates these kind of things. He goes
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  Speaker 3: to these shows.
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  Speaker 1: But I want to go back to Rick's comment. He
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  Speaker 1: also mentioned about the length of the RV. Yeah. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big thing.
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  Speaker 3: When you're talking about a Class A, which is kind
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  Speaker 3: of what you were mentioning, Andy, with the whole bus,
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  Speaker 3: I could see that happening with a Class A. But
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking at a Class C. And a Class C
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  Speaker 3: is going to be one of those smaller RVs. And
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  Speaker 3: there's almost no chance that a smaller RV like that
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  Speaker 3: would get denied from a state park.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's it's they're pretty small.
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  Speaker 2: So you're restricted on kind of where in parks you
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  Speaker 2: can go.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: They're designed for like you're not going to the tent
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  Speaker 2: only spots.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to the 20 foot spots.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking at 24 to 48 foot spots with the
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  Speaker 2: pull through the 30 to 50 amp hookups. And some
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  Speaker 2: of them have some of some of them even have
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  Speaker 2: sewer directly there. So you can just plug a sewer in.
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  Speaker 2: That's a little bit more fancy, but more often than not,
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  Speaker 2: you have a back end spot or some, if you're lucky,
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  Speaker 2: have a pull through. So you can just pull in,
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  Speaker 2: pull through, park, camp, and pull out. Again, you're just,
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  Speaker 2: you just have to pay attention and plan ahead a
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  Speaker 2: little bit. So don't just show up at a park
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  Speaker 2: and expect to get a spot.
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  Speaker 3: That's the thing about being in the Rocky Mountains too.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many people that have moved here
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  Speaker 3: from out of state, whether it be, you know, California
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  Speaker 3: or Utah or even Texas, you know, And a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the Coloradans have, you know, obviously they've said, you know,
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  Speaker 3: go back home. We're full, you know, but it's really
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  Speaker 3: affected the camping industry because people that have lived here
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  Speaker 3: for their whole lives, which I'm not one of them,
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  Speaker 3: but they can't get a spot. You know, they have
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  Speaker 3: to wake up at 12.01 a.m. 17 weeks prior to
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  Speaker 3: when they want to go.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And make a reservation online and they have to have
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  Speaker 1: it done within three minutes or else that spot is taken.
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  Speaker 2: Recreation.gov is a site. So like state parks in Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: same thing, same deal, right? And there's all sorts of
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  Speaker 2: tips and tricks and people have hacks and whatever to
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  Speaker 2: try and get spots and all this stuff. But the
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  Speaker 2: hot spots sell out. Wow. The hot dates sell out.
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  Speaker 2: Fourth of July weekend, Memorial Day, Labor Day, all those big...
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  Speaker 2: holiday weekends that everybody wants to go camping it's it's
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  Speaker 2: incredibly difficult sometimes to get sites in your favorite place
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  Speaker 2: uh but that's where the not state parks come into
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  Speaker 2: play the county parks the state some of the national
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  Speaker 2: parks some.
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  Speaker 1: Of walmart parking lots i mean.
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  Speaker 2: Some of these some of the apps you can get
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  Speaker 2: like harvest hosts where you can sign up and be
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  Speaker 2: a member of harvest hosts and camp at wineries and
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  Speaker 2: breweries and other things that have parking lots that you
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  Speaker 2: can just stay in their parking lot overnight.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go camp at a brewery. Just stumble outside,
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  Speaker 1: go to bed.
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  Speaker 2: Harvest Host is something that my mom has utilized for
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  Speaker 2: a long time. We utilized them for probably the last
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  Speaker 2: six or seven years. Unfortunately, they did just get bought
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  Speaker 2: by a big hotel conglomerate. So the downfall of that
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  Speaker 2: app is probably soon to come. So I'm a little
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  Speaker 2: bit bummed about that. But it's called Harvest Host.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned it last week too.
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  Speaker 2: They were their own app, and then they got bought
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  Speaker 2: by a company called Boondockers, which then that company got
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  Speaker 2: bought by.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, so private equity. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever thought, Justin, have you ever thought
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  Speaker 1: about maybe getting an older, like a really older one
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  Speaker 1: as you get into it at a great price and
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  Speaker 1: then refurbishing it? Because we did this. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you remember when I was working at the rock
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  Speaker 1: station here in town, we did a contest for some reason.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how we got our hands on an
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  Speaker 1: old RV. And we refurbished the inside. We just completely
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  Speaker 1: decked it out. We even put a pole inside for fun,
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  Speaker 1: for people to enjoy. Exotic dancing. Yes, inside the RV.
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  Speaker 1: And then we put teeth on the front of it.
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  Speaker 1: And we painted it silver. And we called it the
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  Speaker 1: Monster RV. And we gave it away. And I'm still
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  Speaker 1: friends with the guy who won that Monster RV. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if he still has it. But do people
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  Speaker 1: do that? Do they get them? Coming home today, I
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  Speaker 1: saw a guy with a big red truck, red and
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  Speaker 1: black truck that looked a little like Deadpool. And all
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  Speaker 1: over the truck were Marvel characters and figurines glued to
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  Speaker 1: the truck. And it was hilarious. But I'm wondering, could
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  Speaker 1: people do that with an RV, like an older one?
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  Speaker 1: Just go ahead and fix it up.
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  Speaker 2: You clearly have never talked to my dad.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's done this to several.
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  Speaker 1: Has he? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Over the years, my dad has restored Shastas
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  Speaker 2: and Volkswagens, and he's done all sorts of stuff. So, yes,
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  Speaker 2: that is a very big hobby to do it. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the big popular ones is Airstreams.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. That's what I think we may have done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a group, and you can find them on
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  Speaker 2: Facebook and then Reddit, I think it's called Tin Can Tourists.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Which is a group about people that restore and... and
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  Speaker 2: travel with Airstream because Airstream became very popular again. And
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  Speaker 2: unless you have a like two comma salary, you're not
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  Speaker 2: affording the new Airstream because they're 60, $ 70, 000 just for
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  Speaker 2: a tow behind. Um, but they're very luxurious. Um, but
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  Speaker 2: there are groups of people and groups of groups of
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  Speaker 2: the internet that will restore these and trade and sell
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  Speaker 2: and yeah. All sorts of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: There's another movie for you to watch, Justin, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to RVs and trailers. It's an old movie with
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  Speaker 1: Desi Arnaz. I think Desi Arnaz is in it. And
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  Speaker 1: Lucy Ball called the long trailer. I think, I'm pretty
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  Speaker 1: sure it was both of them. That's a good movie
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  Speaker 1: as well. But that one is a toe behind.
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  Speaker 2: So, there's one.
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  Speaker 1: I was going to go back. You asked me a question.
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  Speaker 1: And I....
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  Speaker 3: I'll be honest, man, it takes me three days just
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  Speaker 3: to change the toilet paper. So I don't think I'd
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  Speaker 3: ever get around to like upgrading or refurbishing an RV.
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  Speaker 3: It would probably just rot away in the driveway.
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  Speaker 1: You know your limits. Yeah, I know my limits. I'm
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  Speaker 1: probably just going to buy relatively new, if not just
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  Speaker 1: straight out right new. But yeah. Yeah. Isn't it amazing though?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's look, you know, venturing back into kind
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  Speaker 1: of tech a little. When you have a desire to
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  Speaker 1: learn about something, When you, whether it be craftsmen, whether
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  Speaker 1: it be fishing, whether it be RVing, there is a
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  Speaker 1: place no matter what on YouTube for you to get
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  Speaker 1: more info.
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  Speaker 3: And have you been, have you been doing that a lot?
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  Speaker 3: Going down the YouTube video? You can find anything on YouTube, honestly.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I, I follow a handful of different
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  Speaker 3: channels that are just talking about RVs. And again, I
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  Speaker 3: just mentioned a lot of them are dealers. And they're
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: just using social media to promote their own, you know,
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  Speaker 3: their own business there or whatever. But it gives me
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  Speaker 3: a good insight. It gives me a good private look
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: at different models. Because when you go to these big
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: camper shows, you're fighting against the crowd. And then also
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: with that, the one that we go to, that Great
• 12:54
  Speaker 3: American RV show, they're serving alcohol. So then you're dealing
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  Speaker 3: with drunk people, you know. And so you never get
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  Speaker 3: a chance to just kind of like lay down in
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  Speaker 3: a bed.
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  Speaker 1: Of a camper to kind of see what it's like.
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  Speaker 1: But like when you watch these like YouTube channels where
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  Speaker 1: it's just you watching the one person going inside the
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  Speaker 1: RV and talking about it, it does keep you that
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a more of a personal feel
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  Speaker 1: to it without having that pressure of actually being there
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  Speaker 1: and being with the salesperson who's just trying to sell
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  Speaker 1: you on it. Right. So yeah, I do follow those.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah. There's so many out there.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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• 15:36
  Speaker 1: This one is powered by an Ultra 5 325 processor.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: This is one of the things. It comes shipped with
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: 16 gigabytes of RAM, a 256 gigabyte hard drive, and
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: they haven't skimmed on the ports. So if you're thinking Chromebook,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you're thinking, okay, that's a Chromebook OS. But you get
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the ports on the side. Chromebooks generally don't have a
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: lot of ports. Sometimes you even have to get a
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: dongle on it. It's got great airflow on it as well.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: It features the great sound, six-speaker sound, so it directs
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: it throughout. So if you want to watch something with it.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: But it's really geared at taking that Gemini step. And
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the other nice thing about it, so people say, okay,
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: what's the difference between a Chromebook and a Google Book?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Google book is a combination of Google OS and Android.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So it pairs perfectly. If you've got an Android device,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I can't believe how easy it was to get set
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: up with it. You know, it put out a code.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I took a, you know, a scan of the code
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: with my phone. They paired right away. And it was,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: it was awesome. I got my apps on there. You've
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: got the apps you can use. You could do your
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: messaging on this. And if you're working on this or
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you're working on your smartphone, you guys have done it,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: or you start working on your phone and then you
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: have to step away to do something else. You could
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: pick it up on here and finish the work on
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: here or vice versa. You can also with Gemini, you
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: say you pull in a picture and using the new
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: magic pointer, you just kind of shimmy it over the
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: graphic and up will pop the Gemini assistant. And you
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: could tell it combine these two photos and it will
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: combine them or, brighten this photo or, you know, darken
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: this photo. It comes with one year of Google Pro,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Google AI Pro. After a year, you pay for it.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It's like $ 260, $ 70, $ 80 a year. But for those
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: looking for that experience, ultralight and easy to carry, this
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: is a good one. Now, the thing is, I found
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: out this one is $ 1, 299. And I did find that Lenovo, Dell,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: They're all putting out Google Books now. And some you
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: may find, Acer has one that's priced around $ 900. It's
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: using a Snapdragon processor. It doesn't have all the features
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that this one does. But we're going to start to see,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: as we saw Chromebooks become real popular during education, we're
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: going to start to see the Google Books becoming more
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: popular as well for people that are doing it. iPhone users,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You could still use it, but I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: think the Android users are going to find the most benefit.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted to kind of show that to you guys.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: It comes with an 18-hour battery. It's funny because I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: showed it opening it from the box in the video.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And you can see the video on our YouTube page
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: for Tech Talk Radio. And I got comments like right away, like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: need some views. This was from Durotan. Need some views
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on the OS and battery performance. Also, any bugs found.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I've got it till tomorrow morning and I got to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: ship it to another reviewer. So I've been trying to
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: go through it. I've had it on since 10 o'clock
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: this morning, been running a movie, been running apps, and
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: it's down to about 68%. Another comment there from Robinry98 said,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you get a lot of power to do what? What's
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the use case for this $ 1, 000 device? That's what I
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: want answered instead of Beck's porn. Because I was going
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: over the features. I mean, I just opened it up.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is what it is. So I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: didn't really get a chance to look at it yet.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Character J1R said, how is it $ 1, 200, 256 gigabytes? I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: think you meant $ 1, 200 for 512 gigabytes of storage with
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: 16 gigabytes of RAM. Unfortunately, no. If you go to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the ASUS store for the 256 it's $ 1, 200, $ 1, 299. There's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: no pricing yet on 512 gigabytes of storage. However, some
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of the other manufacturers that I did see are selling
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: it with 512 and it's around the same price point.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: So I have to see if there's a correction. Amazon
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't even have it available yet. And then Andrew Norton,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: 89 wrote, I'm curious how multi-monitor support will work. Actually,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it works great. I was able to test that. It
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: has an HDMI out, so I connected it to another
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: HDMI monitor. Now, if you want more than one extra monitor,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you'd have to go with some kind of a dongle
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: or something like that, or USB-C, but either way, I'm
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: pretty pleased with it. Two Thunderbolt 4 USB-Cs, two USB 3.2s,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and an audio out jack, and then the HDMI. So
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: if you're thinking about Google book, I don't, would you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: get a Google book? Is this something you would know? No,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't look at it. And now Justin, you're an
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Android user as well. So you wouldn't find a benefit
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: for this. A couple of different things.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: One, that price point, that's just, that's too much for what,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: what it offers in my opinion. Two, you know, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: was just reading an article about this. I think it
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: was yesterday about how, you know, schools all over the
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: United States and even the world, You know, they.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Introduce Chromebooks to kids. Right.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: And with that, they're introducing Gemini AI and especially true
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: in this case.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Putting kids on a product by a big tech company
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: like Google right off the bat. And this is their
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: very first computer. They don't know how to use computers.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: This is what they learn computers on. It just it
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: just reinforces that that that ecosphere of Google. And everything
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: has to be Google. And we have gotten to a
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: point now where there are so many other options. And
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: other than just Google, I mean, people still say, oh,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: just Google it. Well, slowly but surely, people are saying, hey,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: go ask AI. And that's more of a general term.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Instead of just saying, go Google it. As a matter
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: of fact, yes, I am an Android user. But as
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: a matter of fact, I'm trying to de-Google. Because putting
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: all of my stuff into one big tech company's basket, again...
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: In this case, you're paying for the product. But most
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: of the time, when it comes to Google, you're not
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: paying for anything because you are the product. They're selling
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: your data. They're taking everything. They're serving you advertisements. I'm
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: just getting tired of it. And their business model is
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: getting exposed, so they're trying to pivot and go into
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: the AI thing and these Google books and stuff. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: it's really just putting lipstick on a pig.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I saw a story. I did see a story this
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: week that said something about how when you generate with
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: ChatGPT or Google or Gemini, that they're going to try
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and find a way to pop ads into your results. Yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: and that's the moment I stopped using that particular AI. Yeah,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and this is even with the paid models. I don't
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: know if this is really the case, but people are
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: saying it makes you think we are just surrounded by advertising.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: That's the whole purpose. That's the whole tech industry. I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: understand television. I understand radio. I've been in the business
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for over 30 years. I understand radio advertising. But when
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: we first started seeing the computers and, you know, okay, okay,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you go to a website, oh, there's an ad. Now
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it's just, it's everywhere. Even our paid services like Netflix
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and Hulu and Tubi, which is free, but you get
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: the ads. We could deal with that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Go back to your radio, your analogy right there. You
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: worked in radio, okay? Caller number nine wins tickets to
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: a concert. Do you turn around and take that guy's
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: information that just won that caller number nine and sell
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: it to a data broker?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. You don't.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: No. You don't.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: But these tech companies do. At least for the companies
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: that I've worked for in my career. Now, some of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the companies now, when you call in, you win. I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how they handle it, but it usually is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a sign. What happens with that? I don't know. but
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: not the companies that I work for here in Tucson.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But I know some of the larger companies. You know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: when you enter a contest, what is going on with
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that information? What are your thoughts, Sean?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't buy it at that price point.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Is it just because it's too expensive?
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: No, it's just I have no use for it. It's
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: not for me. I'm sure there's a use case for
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: other people. I'm also trying to de-Google.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Looking at some home server options for Google. cloud and
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Google Photos and moving my stuff out of Google and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: onto my own on-prem cloud.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Or my own hosted cloud just to get away from
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: the Google environment. And there are a ton of good
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: open source options that are more convenient than Google.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Like what? Because I know Matt was going into the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: home labs and doing some stuff with that.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I don't have the names off the top of my head,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: but I know there are plenty of options. There's a
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: whole ecosystem around de-Googling.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: There's a whole subreddit dedicated to it called de-Google or de-Googling.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So just looking at what your options are outside of Google.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: And it's not just Google. No, it's not just Google.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: It's Apple too, right? It's Apple cloud storage, Google cloud storage, Microsoft, Facebook,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: all of them, Microsoft. Yeah, right. Exactly. They all have
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: storage options and it's, They have to make the money
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: somehow to keep the data centers running. It's just like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: my dad always says, somebody's got to pay to keep
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the lights out of Vegas.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: So somebody's got to pay to keep the computers running.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Right. You know, one of the things on the Google
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: OS that was the most difficult for me, it took
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: me a few times when I kept, why don't I
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: have a clock in the bottom right-hand corner? Oh yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it's Google OS. It's a totally different operating system.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: If you grew up with Windows, or even if you
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just start using a Google computer and then you move
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: to Windows, it's going to be a whole different experience. Again,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: my point going back to the children, the children are
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: going to learn on how to use a computer on
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: these type of computers and then they're going to grow
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: up and they're going to get a job and they're
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: going to be forced to use Windows or maybe Linux.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Well, maybe not for everybody, but The majority.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: And they're going to be like, wait, how do I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: use this? What are you talking about? You grew up
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: with computers. Well, I grew up with Google OS. Well,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: nobody uses that. I'm wondering how many parents, how many
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: dads that have delved into technology, maybe that are watching
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: or listening right now, would think of giving their kid
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: an older laptop with an older version of Windows on
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: them and say, get to learn it. You wouldn't do it? No.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Not with all the security.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: It'd be a Linux machine.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Or Linux box. Yeah. Yeah, Linux.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You guys know how many computers I have here?
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for five laptops right here.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I want Max to get in and dive in because
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: he's going to want to play computer games. He's going
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to want to play video games.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Eric plays a ton of those.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I want to encourage him to, you want to play it?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Figure it out. Build it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Get the games you want.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Download them.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Good luck with that because I tried that route and
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: that did not work as expected. Guess who ended up
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: installing all of his games? You did. This guy. Yes.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: All right, we're going to.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Take a quick break.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: We come back. We do have some listener questions we'll share.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: A big question, too, that has come up in tech
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: this week is, and I hear like three different groups saying,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: don't hit the power button and hold it to shut
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: your computer off. We'll get into that coming up with
• 27:29
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• 27:31
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• 27:32
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• 27:35
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• 27:37
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• 27:39
  Speaker 4: My problem is I've got my pointer in the middle
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: of the screen, and I need to move it to
• 27:45
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• 27:48
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• 27:51
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• 27:54
  Speaker 4: if you could give me a call, I'd appreciate it.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I'll wait until I hear from you.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So we're on the listener question train here, so we're
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: just going to keep rolling.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And we're going to read another one here from Linda
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: in Sajarita.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: She says, I'm in need of a new printer and
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: have just recently found your show. Half the stuff goes
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: over my head. I thought you might be able to
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: clear up a question.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It goes over our heads too. It's okay.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Sometimes.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Fake it till you make it, babe. Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I was thinking about going with HP because I once
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: had an HP years ago and loved it, but gave
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: it to my son when he went to school. Now
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I need to print stuff again, but my son says
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: HP makes it so you can't use cheaper inks. What
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: would be another good brand if that's true? So yes,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: HP stinks. When it comes to inkjet printers and replacement
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: inks and third-party inks and firmware updates that don't let
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you print with non-HP ink and all this stuff, there's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: a really great solution.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Buy a laser jet printer.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's what I have.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Spend a little bit of extra money and buy a
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: laser jet that uses toner. And I have an HP.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I don't remember the brand name. I think, Justin, you
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: have a brother.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: No, I have an HP laser jet color. Yeah. A
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: color one? Oh, those are great.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an HP color one. I think I
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: got the same one Justin has. We bought it three
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: years ago and have not had a problem with it.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: It's fantastic. It's hooked up to the internet. I can
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: print from any computer in my house. I can print
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: from my phone. I can print wirelessly. It's just worked.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Do you remember what your first printer was?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: My first printer?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: A Canon M-PIX 1000 or something like that.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: And it took ink and it I tried to print
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: on photo glossy paper and it was terrible. And yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I used it in college and Justin how about you
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I had a dot matrix did you really okie data
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: you remember the okie datas oh yeah yeah yeah I
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: don't remember exactly which model we had but I remember.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: That oh yeah you know all that stuff those were
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: great I had a My first printer was an HP
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: LaserJet 4, and I dropped maybe $ 1, 300 for it. And
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: this is back in 1993 or 1994. And man, it
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: was just, it was. And before that, I did have
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Dot Matrix, but my first LaserJet printer. I have heard, though,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: that HP has made it almost so that if you
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: want to refill the ink, you join a club.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they have like an ink refill thing, but they
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: overcharge for it. But even with the laser jet, you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: he was talking about, first off, I just got to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: say this. Linda, don't get an inkjet printer unless you
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: are going to be printing a lot and constantly. Because
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: the problem with an inkjet printer is if you're not
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: printing constantly, that ink will dry up inside of the
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: pipes of the printer.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: And your printer is pretty much dead. You'd have to
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: take it in. get it repaired. And it's almost the
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: price of a whole new printer. Like, like Sean said,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: just spend a little extra money, get a laser jet
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: because laser does not, the, the, the toner never clogs up.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. It's dry toner. It's magnetic. That's how it works. Um,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: laser jets way, way better, especially for that casual printing.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Way better.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Way better.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I have the, but they make it, I have the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Epson photo, uh, printer that's color. The inks are completely expensive,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: but yes. Yes.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: When it comes to photos, if you're going to be
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: printing out photos, yeah, you want probably an inkjet. You
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: want a good inkjet because LaserJet just doesn't do photos
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: that great. But if it's just general stuff, yeah, LaserJet.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: The other thing is, is even with the LaserJet, I
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: was having problems. I did buy some third-party toner for
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: the HP, and they had this whole procedure built in
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: to the packaging that talked about you need to use
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: this special tool that they sent, which is obviously a
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: 3D printed tool, to pull the chip out of the
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: actual HP cartridge and then install it into their cartridge
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: so then it makes the HP printer think That it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: an authentic HP ink.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: That's a shame.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But the problem is when you do that, usually you're
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: replacing an empty cartridge. That chip retains that information that
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: it's an empty cartridge. So even if you put a
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: brand new cartridge in, it's still going to say you're empty.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: So then every time you print, you have to go
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: to the printer itself.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: You have to click. Yes, I understand the toner's low.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Click OK.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: And then it prints just fine. So it's still, no
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: matter what you do, it's still a pain in the butt.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Another one I got, though, and I don't know what
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: you guys think about this, and when Gloria was setting
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: up her office, she wanted a color inkjet. I didn't
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: want to do color laser because it was kind of
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: just becoming more of a thing. I thought, let's just do,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I did an Echo Tank. I did the, it's an
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Epson Echo Tank printer. I've actually been pretty happy with it. Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I've heard good things about those. But the only problem
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: we run into is, again, you hit it on the head, Justin.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: If you don't print a lot with it, it's going
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to clog up. And I have a cleaning kit that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I was able to use the first time this happened.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: But again, yeah, that's one of those things. Make sure
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: it's something you're printing at least twice a week, three
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: times a week, just to get it through. You will
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: go through more ink. But again, it's not there to
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: look at. It's there to use. It's there to be ink.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: So I guess if you're using a lot, then inkjet
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: might be cheaper, especially if you're using photos. If you're
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: just going to be printing occasionally... laser jet's going to
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: be the way to go. And if you were going
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: to print something that you need color, then a color
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: laser jet. If you're just going to print black and white,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: a simple black and white laser jet would be fine.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: And we bought ours from Costco.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so did I.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And got a killer deal on it.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like $ 450, I think. So when Linda's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: question about HP, I mean, could HP still be a solution?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Or you guys think maybe she should look at Brother
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: or Epson or any of the other ones that are
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: out there? HP's still the market leader.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, HP's definitely on top. Brothers right there, Epson's right there.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I think all three brands are going to be decent
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: if you're getting a LaserJet. Just find a deal. Go
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to Costco, Sam's, whatever.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Costco usually has at least one color LaserJet printer on
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: sale from one of those three manufacturers. And a color
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: LaserJet now, where I spent $ 1, 300 for a 300 dpi LaserJet,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: laser printer back in the early 90s. Now you could go, what? $ 450. Yeah, $ 450, right? Yeah,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: for a color laser with toner. Yeah, that's what I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: think we paid is like $ 450.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: $ 399 right now for an HP color laser jet all-in-one scanner,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: printer thing.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: And it also is a scanner. Yep. And a copier. Oh, wow.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: That's really good. Yeah, they've got them for.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Double-sided.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Just Google, like, Just Google it. Yeah. Google it. Just
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: look it up on Costco.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Use your favorite search engine.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So there's deals out there to be had. Your mileage
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: may vary, but.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: I've been happy with my HP. Joss has been happy
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: with his HP. All right.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: For the most part. All right. So one of the
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: big questions that I'm seeing a lot of people talking about,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: how do you shut down your computer? And, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I've been in that situation before where. Wait, wait, wait.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: You guys shut your computer down? Well, yeah, I guess
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I found out recently you don't have to.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Somebody's got like a thousand different updates waiting to be installed.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: I shut mine down most nights.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I do too. You know, if I'm, I'm, I'm heading
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: off to go brush the teeth for the, for the,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you know, to, to go to bed, hit the power
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: button on top and it shuts down. You know, I
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: haven't used, been using it. It's just okay. Time to
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: shut it down. But people are saying now that number one,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: you don't have to shut down your PCs anymore. Not
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: like we had to do like five, six, seven years ago.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: But also saying you don't want to hold the power
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: button down on a Windows 11 computer and shut it
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: off that way. That's like ripping the power cord out.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: That's only in emergencies.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah. Like if I have something that I'm
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: doing and it's just crashed and it's just sitting there,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: it's sitting there. I'm sorry. My level of patience goes
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: very quick.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: But you don't ever want to just, yeah, like if
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: you're just doing a regular shutdown, you do not want
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: to just, yeah, hold down the power button. It's like
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: ripping the heart out of it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: It's going to kill it immediately with no chance to
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: save any of the data. or save the state that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it was in.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Stop processes right in the middle.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And it's, yeah, this is how you mess up. It's
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: going to wake up stuff. All right. Oh God. Yeah. Yeah. Don't, don't,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: don't do that.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Just do it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: If you're going to shut it down, do it the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: right way. Either.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: If you have your power button, physical power button mapped
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: to shut down, just press it once. Like you said,
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Andy and walk away. It'll shut down. If not, just
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: click on the windows button. go to the shutdown area
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: and just click shutdown. I normally just simply put mine
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: to sleep. And then I reboot it once a week
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: when we got updates.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So you don't have to reboot it daily. So you
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: let it go to sleep and maybe after six hours,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: seven hours, you come back. You don't have to reboot
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it later that day. No, you don't. If you do, you've.
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: Got other stuff. You've got other problems going on. Honestly,
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: you've got apps that are leaking memory. Or, you know,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: other nefarious apps on your computer that you probably don't
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: know about. Malware, viruses, something like that. But no, by default, no, no.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: You don't have to reboot it once or twice a day.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Here's one solution for you. If you press the Windows
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: key and I, sorry, my Linux friends and Apple friends.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: But Windows key, I, you can go into system, power
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and battery. If it's a laptop, you can click lid,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: power and sleep controls. You scroll down, you'll see them.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: If it's a desktop PC, you'll see power button controls.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: There you could tell it, you know, when you press
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the power button, what do you want it to do?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Do you want it to go to sleep like Justin
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: does with his? Or, you know, do you want it
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: to shut down and all operations and then do a
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: shutdown on it? So rather than a forced shutdown, shut
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: down by holding and pressing the power key. As Sean said,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you only use that as a last resort. You know, because, again,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: it could end up messing up files.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: You know, speaking of Windows, have you guys heard anything
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: about this, the new big version of Windows 11?
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: No. The 26H2 that got released a couple.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: The ones that are supposed to reduce RAM usage?
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I've been reading a lot about it. I have it
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: on my work laptop, and it is true.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Windows... feels snappier it feels faster it's also using about
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: two gigs less ram uh in an idle state so
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: it went from like around around six gigs of ram
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: usage idle right down to about about 4.5 or so
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: four 4.5 gigs um but i tell you the the
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: startup i mean windows 11 god for years you go
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to start up your laptop you might as well just
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: walk away take a nap yeah Maybe, maybe apply for
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: a couple of other jobs. Cause I mean, by the
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: time you get back, your computer's still waiting. Please wait.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: And Windows 11 has been horrible. Ever since I downloaded 26H2,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: my Windows laptop, it starts right up. It's fast.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: So it should be in your update folders, 26H2. We've
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: got to take another quick break. We come back with
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: more of Tech Talk Radio. Got another question about your TVs.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: We'll find out about that when we come back. I'm
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I'm Sean DeWeer.
• 39:45
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• 39:47
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• 39:50
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• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Line Is It Anyway.
• 39:54
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• 39:56
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• 39:57
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• 40:01
  Speaker 3: All right, continuing on the listener question train, as Sean
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: mentioned last segment. Gary in Tucson, been a listener for years,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: but just got back from the Walmart in Tucson.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Did you guys know? That when you buy a TV,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you have to set up an account.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Hadn't heard you guys talk about that, but this seems
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: very strange. I don't know.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I got to say, Gary, I'm not exactly sure what
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: you're talking about. Are you talking about a Walmart account?
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about a television account? I'm assuming you're
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: talking about a television account. Now, granted, yeah, of course.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: That's why TVs are so cheap. You know, because they
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: harvest your data and they sell it to people like
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: this whole big thing about LG, you know, spying on
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: you in the background.
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Recording your conversations, even when the TV is off. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of course.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: But most televisions and again, I don't know what brand
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: you're talking about, but most televisions will ask you to
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: set up an account.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: But there's always a skip or no or maybe later
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: button that you can click to bypass it.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So like for our Google TV, like my TV that
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: we just bought, we just bought a TCL.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: And it's a Google Chrome, Google OS TV. So of
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: course it makes sense to log into my Google account
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: because then it's tied to my YouTube and all that
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: other stuff, which is great. And my previous TV was
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: a Roku TV, which my son shattered the screen with
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: some blocks. And so when I, got rid of it.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I actually took it apart and took out the logic
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: board because I wasn't sure if I was going to
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: be able to delete the data or not. And I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: didn't want to go into the scrap yard with my,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: all my stuff logged in YouTube because I couldn't log
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: into it because I couldn't see the screen. So that's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: just sitting in a box of parts in my basement now.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: Um, never even thought about that because it would have your,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it would have you.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Cause if somebody was able to harvest that information off there,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: they'd be, it could potentially log into my accounts. So
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: I kept all that. But, um, we bought a new
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: TV and we create, you know, a Google TV. So
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: it's got the Google home and all that stuff in it, which,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: but then you're logging into all your other apps. So
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: when you, when you mean.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Says the guy who's trying to de-Google. Yeah.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: When the TV is $ 300 and there's a risk of
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: your kids breaking it the day you bring it home.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I don't give a rat's behind if it's $ 300 or.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I'm selling it to Google.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Cause if I break it, I could buy another TV
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: for $ 300.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I went through, so when we, you know, had
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: to go to Huntington Beach to take care of the
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: house that we have out there, my son had just
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: moved out, so it was cleaning time. We had to basically,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: you know, go in, clean up, pick up things, and
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: he left a lot of Dungeons & Dragons stuff, which
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be giving to Sean, and I'm going
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: to find some stuff to give to Justin, but that's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: why I just said, I'm going to give you stuff.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Look at you, throwing up your arms. But I know
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: the Dungeons & Dragons stuff would please Sean very much.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: We didn't have a TV. So we're staying in the house.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: There's no TV in the house, you know? And I thought, well,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: what are we going to do? So we ran to
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Walmart and Gary, I totally understand what he's saying. Go
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: to Walmart and they had an own TV. O N
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: N that's, I believe that's Walmart's brand. I may be,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: maybe off. And it was like 66 bucks on sale
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: marked down from 88, 32 inch, you know, uh, 10 ADP,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: not seven 20. Okay, let's just get this. So we
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: picked it up, took it home and I was going
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: through the setup and it required me to set it
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: up with an account, a Walmart account. And I thought
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: that was the weirdest thing. It wouldn't let me bypass
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: it to be able to watch this TV with that.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: So of course I created a return. Yeah, well, no,
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I just created a fake account and I went ahead
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: and got it all set up and I was able
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: to watch TV. It was no big deal, but it,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: when I, when I, It was kind of bothering me,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: and I remember going and looking at the box, and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: it said on the box, you have to create an account.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: When we got Gary's note, this was like a couple
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: weeks ago, I went ahead and I was in Walmart,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: and I looked, every single TV on there said, you
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: must create an account. A Walmart account? It's a Walmart account. So,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: and I, I don't know if it was Walmart account,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: a Vizio account, but either way. But then again, you
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: just said what a 60 inch TV for 85 bucks.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah. What were you saying, Sean?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't. That's why I don't shop at Walmart, I guess. Yeah.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I haven't, I don't, can't remember the last time I
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: was in a Walmart.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I don't remember. Oh, look at you, Mr.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Fancy Pants. Come on. You got to go for the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: chicken nuggets at least. You know, those are good. You
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: got to have those. But no, I still have the TV.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: It's here in the studio. We never took it back.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And I thought, well, maybe I could hang it up
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: on the wall in the office and have a TV there.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: I already set up the account. It's basically a dummy
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: account to a Gmail address. And that was it. So... Sure.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, you could do that. But, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: that also brings up a little bit of a kind
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: of a side topic. If you really want to mess
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: with some of these advertisers, you know, some of these emails,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: even Gmail will do it. I forget exactly how you
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: do it. I think what it is, is if you
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: sign up for something that requires your email, let's say,
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: for instance, my email was just simply justinlemme at gmail.com,
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: which it's not. But if it was just justinlemme at gmail.com,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: if I were to put and sign up for, let's say,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: this Walmart TV, and I register an account, and I say,
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: justinlemme plus Walmart, use the plus symbol, walmart at gmail.com,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Gmail automatically ignores the plus symbol and anything after it. However,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: when you get emails sent to that account, it lists...
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: that full thing.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: So what you can then do with that is you
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: can understand who is selling your information. So you can
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: keep yourself a little spreadsheet and say, okay, for this account,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I used plus one, two, three, four. For that account
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I used, plus 56789. And then you keep track. Who
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: did I give that email to? Because that's the only
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: one I've ever given that email to. And now all
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, I'm getting hundreds of spam emails sent
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to that address. Now you know who's selling your information.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: That's actually a very good tip. I like that. So
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: where would you buy? If you're not buying at a Walmart,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: where do you buy your TVs? Costco. Oh, Costco, yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Have you looked to see if they require that? No,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: they don't. I've bought three, two, two TVs from Costco.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: The only thing, like I said, the only thing we
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: had to do was we signed over their Google because
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: it made sense with the Google TV with the Google OS.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. No, actually I take it back.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I bought one from Best Buy and Best Buy also
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: did not require me to create a Best Buy account
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: to sign into their TV.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Ever having to do that.
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I also bought a premium model too. I didn't
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: buy one of their floor shelf, you know, Best Buy brands,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Insignia or whatever theirs is. I bought a, like a sharp,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: a 75 inch sharp, you know, OLED TV you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: for a premium price. So if you're paying a premium price,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: you're going to get the product without all the extra,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: as Sean so eloquently said, BS. But if you're paying
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: that cheap, you know, oh my God, a 75 inch
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: for 88 bucks, that's a steal. Yeah, they're stealing something,
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Kind of wonder though, when you buy a used television,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: an open box, I mean, if somebody's taken that, used it,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: set it up, returned it, Sean, you talked about the
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: logic board info. Could that information be harvested off of there?
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Sure, it could be.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Or what if somebody added something to it? What if
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: they added a microphone listening device? Oh, that's a good thought. Yeah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I just didn't want to take any chances,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: so I'll probably just shred it or punch all the
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: logic chips or something. I don't know. I don't know
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: what I'm going to do with it yet.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Usually, when I buy a brand new television... The first
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: thing I do is I take it apart and I
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: smash the logic board.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: First thing I do.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: What?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: As soon as I buy a brand new TV. Really?
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Smash the logic board. And then I put it up
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: on the wall and then I wonder why it's not working.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I haven't figured that out yet. Took a little while
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to get there, but yeah. No surprising there. I don't
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: know if any of you do graphics at all or
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you play around with the graphics world. There is a graphic.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: We've talked about it. We're video gamers. I know, but
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: there's a graphic program out there I want to mention. Oh, okay.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Remove BG. And Sean, I don't know if you've ever
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: used this yet. Remove BG was a very easy way
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: for you to take a photo, pop it into the program,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and actually remove the background from a photo. And I
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: featured it once on a segment on Fox 11. It
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. They got bought by Canva, which is
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: kind of neat. And now RemoveBG, the standalone website, is
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: going away, which it's been neat because it's been super convenient.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: You could do generations for free, say, I want to
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: get this done, but now you'd have to do it
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: through the Canva as of December 1st. So if you
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: want to experiment with that, test it out, I recommend
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: go to remove.bg for doing it. I did it and
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I thought it was really good. I thought it was perfect.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And it's, you know, one of those things that some
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: of these smaller companies, big company comes around like Canva,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: comes up and buys them. Another one that happened and
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: now they are officially a part of Adobe is Topaz.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: And we've looked at Topaz. I've used Topaz and I'm
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: so amazed by Topaz video. But a lot of the
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: people that I've worked with when they were at Topaz
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: are now a part of the Adobe family because they
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: have completely taken that over. We'll start to see some
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: of those generation products within the Adobe Premiere Suite, Adobe Photoshop,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and some of those other things. I'm just hoping they
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: keep the quality as good. You keep saying Adobe family.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: I would prefer to say more... The Adobe cult. There
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you go.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: The Adobe mob family.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: The Adobe mob family. The mafia. The Adobe mafia. You
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: want to leave us? It's going to cost you a
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars. Yeah. Don't make me call my goons.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: You want to cancel? That's not possible. Go on. Yeah.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Good luck getting rid of your Adobe sass.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: One of the things you're doing now is, so say
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: you take an image and a part of it is generated.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: And a part of it, but you've done the graphics,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: you've done the lettering, you've done all these great things.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: It will now declare that image as AI. So anywhere
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you post it, it will say AI generated content. So
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: if you're going to Facebook, if you go into Instagram,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: it will tell that, hey, this is AI. I mean,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: they tell it, it's not up to you. They let
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: that company know. Some people have said, okay, well, what
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: if I put it into another platform? program to edit.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You may be able to bypass it, but again, that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: is something now that Adobe does right off the bat,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: it will say. And you go to hit save or export,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and you'll see, there it says AI, right there. So
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: right away, you know, people tend to look at the
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: AI and right away say, you know, I'm maybe not
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: going to click through because they're getting just AI overload.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys agree with that, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I think I think that's what's happening. Yeah, but I
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: think it is. Yeah.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're generating something using your own, but yes,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's using AI generative tools to create that.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We're
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: going to take it away. Take another quick break. Sorry.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Take away work from what? I was going to say,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: it takes away work from graphic artists. Yeah. But some
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: graphic artists are, some, I'm not saying all only graphic artists,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: so you're mad at me. Some are using elements to
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: do that. Sure. And, um, But again, it's something to
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: think about. All right, we're going to take a break.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: We come back with more of Tech Talk Radio. I'm
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: I'm Sean DeWeerd.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And I'm Justin. Let me find us on Facebook, forward
• 52:30
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• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Tech Talk Radio.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: All right, so for the final segment of Tech Talk Radio,
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: we're talking about.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Well, hold on here a second. You look a little distracted, Justin.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I'm distracted by the website of the week here because
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I'm playing Solitaire. So there's a website. Oh, no, no,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: don't put that there. Everybody, everybody, you've got to follow
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: this and log this in. It is so cool. All right.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It's a website called solitairealonentogether.com. I know it sounds crazy. Solitairealonentogether.com. Okay,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: can you spell solitaire, please? S-O-L-I-T-A-I-R-E.
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: SolitaireAloneTogether.com. All right. So it takes you back to like
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: a Windows 98 machine. It's like a virtual machine in
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: your browser. Right.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: And it automatically launches the game of Solitaire from Windows 98. However,
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it then launches a bunch of other Solitaire games and
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: you're actually playing with real people.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, man. If you're watching our video here, Sean, Sean
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: is showing what it looks like, and he's actually playing
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: a game right now, as well as I am, but
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: you can actually play Solitaire with other people. Now, you
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: can't interact with their game, but you can at least
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: see what they're doing. Can you interact with the people?
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like that, but I got shafted here, man.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: I got a bad hand.
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm playing right now, and I'm doing okay, but.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: My faces are buried.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Like....
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: That was... You know, that was.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: I got nothing to work with.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: That was the best part about playing Solitaire on the computer, was, like,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: when you finish, it would just, like, the cards would
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: fly off. That was the part I liked the most.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: That was... Yeah. That was cool. So how many games
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: you got going on right now? I just... Well, I
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: only have the one game, and Sean, you can only
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: play one game at a time, but all those other
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: windows are other people that are actually playing alongside you.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: They're real people that are playing. Yeah. Real people.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Wow. All right. Yeah. And is it cost anything to
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: play this?
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Not at all.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: It's free. I just typed in the IP.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: And you don't even have to sign up. Just solitairealonentogether.com.
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: That's it for this week's show. Thank you for tuning in.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: You get your, you know, we love answering your questions.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: So please get them into us, techguys at techtalkradio.com. I'm
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: Andy Taylor.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: I'm Sean DeWeer.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm Justin Lemme. Find us on the web, techtalkradio.com.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: Have yourselves a great week.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: See you.