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ACC Betting Preview Part 1 | Top Teams, Sleepers & Odds · Targeting Winners: A College Football Betting Podcast

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Hello everybody welcome to Targeting winners.
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This is the ACC preview for 2026 where it just means more.
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I'm here as always with Darren and Peter.
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Darren, how you doing? I'm.
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Good man, it's been listening to us all cough before we started
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recording so this should be. Yeah, I think I gave you guys my
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sickness from all the way down in Florida, so.
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Somehow you did it. It.
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It's strange how that happens 'cause I'm sick now, but it
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happens at work all the time and I work remote.
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Like somebody will be sick and like 2 weeks later somebody else
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is sick somehow through the computer.
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I don't know. But anyways, thanks Tim, I
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appreciate it. Well, if you're sick, it's
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obviously Miranda's fault, so. I blame her for.
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Everything. Blame her.
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Totally, perfectly quaffed Pete Howard.
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New haircut, looking fresh, new cough, new background.
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Absolute new computer, new everything.
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Eddie, our resident interior decorator, will be happy.
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Now you've got something behind you, so I'm coming in from the
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bunker. We're talking about the ACC.
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But first we had some breaking news over the last week or so.
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Darren, I want you to break us into it.
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Brendan Sorsby. I don't know if you ever
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listened to the show. Probably not.
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Did you say you think he was listening?
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He was probably listening to us. Probably not, yeah.
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So as as luck and bad timing would have it, Pete and I just
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finished doing Part 2 of the Big 12 preview where Texas Tech was
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one of the teams we covered. And then a mere days later, all
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this comes out. Thousands and thousands of bets,
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potentially thousands and thousands of dollars.
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NCAA is investigating, so who knows when that'll ends.
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But I mean, I'm just going to ask you guys for your opinion.
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Are you doing anything different with Texas Tech?
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I mean, I know Tim, you fired on something a while back on the
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national championship show and. Second, I'm really happy about
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that. Do you think he's playing again?
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I don't think he is, man. I think the NCAA has got to set
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an example here. Well, a lot of this came out
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when I was, you know, on heavy doses of Nyquil, but I remember
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someone talking about, so is me being available for the
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supplemental draft. And I was like, wait, what?
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What? Wait, what's going on?
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And so it's one of those things. And yeah, well, it'd be nice if
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he did play, but I don't think he's going to.
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Yeah, he's going. To play, he's going to play in
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the NFL maybe, and he's going to get what's coming to him because
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it looks like Cleveland might suck, suck him up.
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So that's a great place for him to go and pay the price.
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Pay the ultimate place price. Go to Cleveland, right?
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Go to Cleveland. Exactly.
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My bigger concern is this the tip of the iceberg, right?
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How much of A how much of a problem is this in college
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football? Or this is one guy, but I doubt
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he's the only guy, right? So what is this going to turn
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into? What kind of investigation is
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going to happen? Who else is going to get kind of
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pulled out of this as well? I mean, were they all using the
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same? How was he betting?
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I mean, probably through an app. They're not using bookies
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anymore. But maybe I don't know.
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So it'll be interesting to see what comes out of this.
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Probably through a friend. I'd imagine there's a lot of
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love I know in the NFL, like if you even bet on a team, like
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they can track your phone like inside the the facility.
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So they probably go to a friend to a friend or something and
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say, OK, I'll give you this, you bet on this or whatever.
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Yeah, it's constant. It's what, it's what, you know,
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you know, Vegas and others. Well, I mean, that's what the
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concern was all along, right? With some with sports and such
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as if this infiltrates too deeply into these sports, what
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happens, right? And so it's, it's concerning,
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right? They need to figure this out and
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it needs to be rooted out, right?
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We can't have that type of thing happening in the in, in, in any
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of these sports 'cause that's that, that's an issue.
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So glad they found it. I'm glad they caught him.
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I'm, I don't think he should ever play again.
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And I think they should investigate further and find out
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if anybody else is doing this because it just can't, they
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can't be, I don't even care if it's on my team.
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You can find guys in Michigan doing it.
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Throw them out. I mean, we just can't.
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We can't have this. Yeah, I mean become an integrity
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issue and wasn't it 2022 or 2023, they got a bunch of
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players from Iowa State doing that.
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I think the quarterback, he had all his eligibility taken away
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from him. So I don't know if there's been
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changes in the rules since that came down, but if you believe
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college football's got integrity left, certainly debatable.
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I. Don't think they ever had any.
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Well. Question, which is why I phrased
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it like I did. But yeah, he he cannot be
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allowed to take another snap. Yeah, definitely not.
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And somewhere you can hear Pete Rose spinning in his grave.
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Oh yeah. Well, I mean, he's lawyered up.
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So I mean, you don't want to lose that 5 million.
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Now apparently I, I had read somewhere that he had been
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getting, I guess he signed for like 5,000,000 bucks and he'd
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been getting payments monthly since he showed up at Texas
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Tech. So I would say maybe from
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January through maybe April he got paid.
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But now like Cincinnati's coming after him for 1,000,000 bucks.
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I mean, I understand him fighting it.
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I mean, he could lose 5,000,000 bucks.
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He's probably not getting his May payment from Texas Tech, I
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would imagine. But yeah, I just wonder if the
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NCAA draws this out and I think the supplemental draft to him, I
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think like end of June somewhere around there.
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I think so. I think so, yeah.
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Maybe he just decides, you know what, it's not worth fighting
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it. If I stay past June 30th and
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then I lose, I'm screwed. So I, I, I don't know but he he
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really should not be allowed to play.
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I agree. That.
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I don't think he'd get taken and 'cause don't you have to give up
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your first round pick or something if you take the guy
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well? Obviously it comes with baggage.
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Now I, I, I don't know, I'm I'm sure some quarterback desperate
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franchise would take him, but. Well, they've got like 30
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quarterbacks. I mean, none of them are very
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good. Well, he.
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Doesn't go to the Las Vegas Raiders, at least to keep them
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out of the casino. Yeah, they're not going to.
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They're not going to take them. There's no way in hell.
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Wonder if that Kousy site has any online.
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So we have to follow the Kousy college football section if they
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have one. See what's going on?
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Second part of that section and Tim, I know you already have a
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bet, so I guess this is more towards Pete.
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Are you looking to do anything with tech now since this news
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came out? There are odds to win the
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conference. You can get a little bit of plus
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money on them now if you think at the very least they can make
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the game and give yourself a hedging opportunity.
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If I remember correctly, you were talking about being on the
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under despite the heavy juice at 11 1/2, that's down to 10 1/2.
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Any of those numbers conference or win total interest you at
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this point? That's a good question.
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I, I don't, I don't know. I, I haven't dug too deeply into
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it yet. I mean, I thought about it a
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little bit. I mean, maybe, but I'm not sure
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how to read it. I don't know.
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I mean, he's obviously not going to play.
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Yeah. I mean, maybe the under still
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interests me a little bit. So I might, I might take another
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look at that, see what the number looks like later today,
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but I haven't done that yet. And Tim, I know you got the
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national championship. Bet You thinking of adding any
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Texas Tech goodies to your portfolio up to this point?
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No, I'm just wondering if he does play, what would be the
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like if the over under is like 52 and toward the end of the
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game they're sitting there at like 50 and you know, there's a
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wide open receiver and somehow he overthrows them or something
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like. That's another.
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Reason why he had the under there it.
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Doesn't matter what he does going forward out there, there's
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going to be questions. Bad throw.
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Doesn't matter what happens, it's going to be, oh, OK, what
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was the line? What's going on?
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What did he? I mean, it's just that that's
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just that's, that's a problem, period.
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Well, let's get on off the depressing subject.
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Let's talk about something not as quite quite as depressing.
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Let's talk about the ACC. We'll save that for FSU in a
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little bit. Can I just say one thing about I
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was thinking about this this morning, how much we bash the
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Big 12 for being like a dumpster fire.
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But when you think about it, should shouldn't we look at that
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as a betting show, as like prime betting opportunity?
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Because nobody really knows what's going on with the Big 12,
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while this conference last year had a team play in the national
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championship game that didn't even win their own.
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Conference, so I mean. I I think we can.
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The ACC may have very well supplanted the Big 12 as the
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power cord dumpster fire, but that's just my thought.
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I mean that was a five loss Duke team make the ACC Thomas title.
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Miami just works their way through the playoff.
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Well, they're the Dukes, the defending champion, aren't they?
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So there we go. Yeah, we did.
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I mean, we did mention a little bit during the Big 12 shows
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though, where, yeah, it is a dumpster fire.
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But it's an interesting one because a lot of angles you
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could play there. There's just, I don't think
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there's so many bets that could be good that there's, it's just
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open, open game. There's a lot of fodder there.
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So here, I don't know, it's a little different.
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OK, well, let's get going here. We got the first half.
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This is Part 1, obviously. So the first half of the
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conference we're doing, we're going to start off with Boston
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College plus 25,000 to win the conference in the over Under is
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3 1/2 wins. Darren, let's start with you.
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What do you got? God I hate this team so much.
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If you're a big believer, you can get plus 30,000 at FanDuel.
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As of earlier today, this team cannot run the ball.
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The two transfer quarterbacks I've never even heard of some
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dude from Arkansas, Grayson Wilson and a Saginaw Valley
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State transfer. Just terrible.
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I mean, they did get Evan Dickens, Liberty's leading
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rushers. So they're obviously making an
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effort to run the ball. They picked up six offensive
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line transfers, so pretty obvious what what they're trying
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to do here. But again, the quarterback play
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is so questionable. Obviously, I don't think any of
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us are going to reasonably say they even have shot at winning
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the conference, but that win total is interesting.
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Initially, I went right to the under just because you've got
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SMU, Notre Dame and Miami on the schedule to start with.
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I mean, even home games, you got Virginia Tech, you've got
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Pittsburgh. I mean, who knows what Syracuse,
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Sir, Sorry, Tim, what FSU is going to look like this year.
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But I just don't see how this team is going to surpass this
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win total here. The honor's pretty heavy juiced
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at FanDuel. I see -142 I would lean that way
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if if I had to do anything. But anytime I can't tell, even
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with a reasonable assumption who the quarterback is going to be,
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I'm just going to stay away from this team all together.
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Yeah, my turn. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's
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hard to say anything positive about this team.
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I mean, I, I think their their their job this year is to try to
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be respectable. They're certainly not going to
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be relevant. Yeah, I mean the under, if
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anything, I don't. I mean, Bill O'Brien was a third
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year whatever there. I mean, I thought we'd get a
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little bit more out of this than he's getting out of this.
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I'm not sure why that is. You know, this is a team that
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used to be able to draw some talent, I mean, before, you
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know, before the portal. But you think with, you know, a
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decent coach and, you know, BC still has a name that they could
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pull some decent talent through the portal, but clearly they
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can't or they don't have the money or I don't know what's
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going on there with that. But yeah, to your point, right,
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they're, they're, they're pulling people through the
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portal that are not exactly show stoppers.
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So I, I'm not sure what's going on with that.
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I, I, I don't see this thing going well.
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I, I probably, more than likely, there's probably some changes
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coming down the road here. We start talking about head
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coaching shows and all of that. Probably not immediately.
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But I don't know what the expectations there either are
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though. So, I mean, at the end of the
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day, the expectations may be low for this program at the school.
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So who knows. But yeah, my expectations are
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very low. So if I would do anything, maybe
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it's the under, but I I wouldn't touch this team with anything.
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Yeah, I was in the same, but I was heavily leading the under.
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But I did not want to fire away on a bullet on that one.
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I mean 3 1/2, I mean, still not for me.
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So let's move on to California plus 2500 to win the conference.
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The over Under is 6 1/2 wins. We started with Darren last
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time. Peter, what are you talking
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about? The Bears.
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Yeah, I think they're a little they're, they're fascinating to
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me. I think they're they're pretty
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interesting. And I think the, the roster is
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definitely upgraded from what they had before.
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I, you know, I, I think they're probably going to be somewhat
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volatile. So we'll see what happens there.
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But they've added something like 30 plus players to the roster,
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which is a, which is a big deal, right?
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There's a roster that needed to be upgraded.
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I, I think it's definitely been upgraded.
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It's like 32 transfers or something, which is, which is a
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lot, right? It's a massive roster reset,
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which is good. So I think I, that can only be
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positive for this team, right? So when total is what, 6 1/2
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with that schedule, you know, maybe I would consider going the
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over. I'm trying to do this in the fly
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'cause I wasn't going to do that.
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I mean, I would to me, it was a slight lean over on the 6 1/2.
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I do kind of like this roster build.
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We'll see if it holds up, but I think they're definitely moving
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in the right direction for a for a team that has not been very
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good of late. I think that they've definitely
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taken a step in the right directions.
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Even if they don't go over that 6 1/2 this year, I think this
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team's moving in the right direction.
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So the future I think is somewhat positive here.
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So we'll see where it goes. So regardless of what actually
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happens this year in terms of wins, this is a big step in the
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right direction for this team. So I do, I do like to see that
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because I do like to see Cal play well.
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So those are my thoughts. All right, Darren.
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Yeah, I, I partially agree. I do agree with what Pete said
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about this team heading in the right direction.
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I, I, I have a slight lean to the under here.
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I do like the head coaching hire.
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I mean, a good defensive guy. He did get the quarterback to
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stay. I'm going to try and pronounce
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the last name. Guys, here we go.
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Sagapulotele. I don't know if that's right,
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but that sounds good. So we're just going to go with
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JKS like everybody else does. So big win there.
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But again, we we talked about how Boston College struggled
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running the ball. Well, nobody struggled more than
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Cal did last in the conference in rushing.
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A lot of those incoming transfers, defense, they lost a
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ton on defense. A lot of those guys are coming
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out on that side of the ball and the schedule.
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Yeah, we talked about travel, especially after this whole
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realignment thing. Cal's got three trips all the
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way out to the East Coast, and you can see him there.
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Syracuse, NC State and Virginia, you're already talking about 1/4
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of your games. You're flying all the way across
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the country. I don't like that at all.
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And also have trips to UNLV and SMU on there to really good
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teams and even the home games. You got Clemson, you got Pitt,
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you have an improving UCLA team. I think that game is going to be
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interesting counting UCLA to start the season off.
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I will watch it if that's on TVI do agree that they're heading in
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the right direction, though. I I think this schedule and you
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know, a whole new reset on defense makes it a little tough
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that this is going to be A7 win team.
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So six and six I think would be a success for this team, but I
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do agree they're headed in the right direction.
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I just don't think they're going to head in that direction too
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far this year. So I have to lean to the under.
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That's bad, all right, Clemson last year Pete, you had a nice
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bet with them, hit pretty early in the season for the win total.
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They are plus 1600 to win the conference.
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The win total over under is 7 1/2.
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Any thoughts this year on Clemson their Pete?
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I almost pulled the trigger again.
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I'm a heavy lean on that over on that 7 1/2 again.
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I mean, yes, we're going through a major quarterback transition
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here. That's a big deal, of course,
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But Dabo's been there forever, right?
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And he seems to navigate those things pretty well.
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So I think that's good. You know, I, I, I like the
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structure. You know, it's a, it's a team
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that I love to hate in many respects, but you know, they,
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they, they generally are, you know, pretty, pretty solid.
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That 7 1/2 just feels low for Clemson.
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I mean, to me, I don't, especially when that's what plus
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1600 to win the conference. Those two numbers don't seem to
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be lined up with each other very well at all.
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There's a disconnect between those, right?
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You would think the wind total should be higher if it's plus
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1600 to win the conference. So to me, that wind total is
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low. It just doesn't.
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It doesn't match the other number.
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So to me, I think the 1600's probably correct.
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I think the seven and a half is low.
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So I almost pulled the trigger on it again, because I think it
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is a very it's not that their schedule's soft.
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Their schedule's not soft, right?
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There's some challenging games in here.
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That first game is gonna be really interesting with LSU,
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very interesting game. But otherwise, you know,
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there's, there's plenty of wins in the schedule to look across
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it. So, you know, I, I think it
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would, I would not blame anybody for for taking the over here.
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They're not necessarily the old machine they've been, but that
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pricing at 7 1/2. I mean, that's that that that
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that under 7 1/2, which suggests they're falling pretty heavily
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and I just don't see that with this team.
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So if I would do anything, I would definitely bet the over I
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I may do that at some point anyway, but I'm not doing it
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right now. So heavy lean on the over.
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I'm just not playing it yet. All right, Darren, over to you.
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Yeah, I I actually agree with all that.
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First of all, FU Dabo, stop worrying about what Notre Dame
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does print in their own money, all right?
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If you could be independent, you'd do the same.
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So shut your portal avoiding ass up for a second.
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I, I don't think the schedule is actually that tough.
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I I think we look a lot, a lot of those logos there and we
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think, oh, good team, good team, good team.
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But I mean, if you kind of look at it, we, we already talked
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about Cal. I I think their two toughest
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games, they're right in the middle of there, Miami and
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Virginia Tech and those those are both in Death Valley.
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I mean, I'm down on Georgia Tech this year, down on Duke.
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They don't really have any tough conference Rd. game.
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Yes, that LSU game is going to be tough, probably start out O
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and one, but there's nothing else on there that doesn't
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really strike me as as unwinnable.
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I guess the seven and a half is there because, like Pete said,
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the quarterback situation. I don't know who this
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Christopher Vicinia is. Vicinia, whatever the hell you
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pronounce his name is. But this is not a tough
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schedule. If they can get anything out of
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this guy, this should be a a relatively easy over.
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And the juice I see a fan was only -128 that seemed kind of
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low. Like Pete.
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I. I kind of almost fired on this.
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I didn't, but I may. Yeah.
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Outside of that LSU game, there is nothing there that I look at
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and say, you know what, that's definitely a a loss.
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And again, who knows how long LSU offense is going to come
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together. They could they could be
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competitive and maybe pull that off as well.
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So huge quarterback question obviously is, is keeping me away
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from firing on anything here. But again, I I agree with Pete.
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If if I was going to do anything here, especially with that more
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than reasonable juice, I would bet the over.
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Here, Yeah, yeah. Show me 4 losses on that
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schedule. Where are you going to find?
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Exactly, that's what I'm saying. There's one on Halloween as they
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go to. Yeah, right.
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Yeah, yeah. Jeez, that's, yeah.
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That's a scary game. See if they don't show up.
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But but for the quarterback, I would go for the over as well
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for for that one. But I've always been like
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whoever the quarterback is. If Klubnick was back, well, that
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line would be higher I think, and probably up maybe 8, maybe
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even 9. And a half of that.
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If Klubnick was coming back, but yeah, new quarterback, I was
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going to lean over, but not here.
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But we move on to the defending champion Duke Blue Devils, plus
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maybe 500 to win the conference over under 5 1/2 wins, Darren
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said. You were down on them.
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How down are you on them? Down enough to where I heavily
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lean to the under here. They just lost so much.
20:06
I mean, and you can just start with the offense.
20:08
Darren Mensa and Cooper Bark 8, their quarterback wide receiver
20:12
combo, both heading to Miami. They did get Nate Shepherd back
20:15
in the backfield, which is great, but I got to feel like
20:17
he's going to be a marked man because I don't know.
20:19
I do you trust Walker Egot to do anything to lead this team to a
20:24
bowl game? I bet on him enough with San
20:27
Jose State last year. So I've learned my lesson and
20:29
the answer is no, he's not going to be able to lead this team to
20:32
six wins. You know, their top SAC guy on
20:35
defense is gone. And oh, perfect timing.
20:38
Look at that schedule. I mean, you get Clemson at home,
20:41
but I think Clemson's going to steam roll these guys anyway.
20:44
And just look at the Road Rd. schedule, Georgia Tech,
20:46
Virginia, Miami, NC State. I just I don't see a bowl.
20:54
I don't see this team going to a bowl game, honestly.
20:56
And their defense is usually good.
20:58
I don't know what the hell happened to him last year, but
20:59
Manny Diaz, who was pretty impressive first few seasons
21:03
here at Duke, that just that defense was just, I mean, that
21:07
bowl game, Oh my God, that defense was awful.
21:09
I was giving up yards constantly.
21:11
So yeah, brutal. I want no part of this team
21:15
strongly into the under, but I did not fire.
21:18
Peter. Yeah, I can't argue with any of
21:21
that. I mean, this is a this is last
21:23
year's conference winner that yeah, I mean, they they could
21:26
win four games this year and I would not be surprised to only
21:29
won four games this year. I mean, this this team got
21:31
gutted from the personnel perspective, lost a lot of
21:34
talent. And as Darren said that that
21:36
defense in the bowl game was, it was.
21:38
Brutal. And I don't, I don't expect any
21:40
magic, you know, magic happening here to resurrect that thing,
21:44
you know, over the offseason here.
21:45
So I, I just, yeah, I don't, if anything, be under on this
21:49
thing. I don't even like that.
21:51
I don't know what to do with this thing.
21:52
I just, yeah, I mean, there's probably going to be under, but
21:54
I just, yeah, this team is going to, it's going to be a rough
21:57
year for a team that won the conference last year.
21:59
I, I, it's going to, it's going to be ugly and that's about it.
22:03
And that schedule is not helping.
22:05
You just read off five of those games.
22:06
They're going to get trucked in most of those games.
22:08
So I don't know. Their defense cannot stop most
22:12
of the teams in that schedule, so and they can't score them
22:15
because they, you know, they lost most of their offensive
22:17
talent. So, yeah, I don't know what's
22:19
going to happen here other than than losing a whole bunch of
22:21
games this year. That's that's what I forget.
22:24
And wasn't wasn't that bowl game that was Arizona State, Like
22:26
Arizona State all they were playing like a bunch of 2nd and
22:28
3rd stringers, weren't they? And they were still like
22:30
parching up and down the field on dupe like they had no idea
22:32
what they were doing. It's terrible.
22:34
I mean Jesus, like a day 2G or something terrible.
22:39
I took into account a lot of those points, points you guys
22:41
just made and I did make a pick. I did go with the under here.
22:46
Like we just had a lot of turnover, a lot of new, new
22:50
pieces to the puzzle, a lot less experience.
22:52
Again, the schedule is not doing them any favours.
22:56
A razor thin margin for error. So they need six wins.
23:01
I looked at that schedule. I did not find six wins, I
23:04
believe at this point. Bowl eligibility is.
23:08
Pretty much of A stretch. So I actually bet 2 units I took
23:12
Duke the under 5 1/2 wins, 2 units I got -1 O 5 that was on
23:18
Hard Rock bets. So we'll go with that and it's
23:22
going to be pretty ugly. Any final thoughts?
23:28
Yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, come on, let's go fire it
23:31
up. Speaking of ugly, we've got
23:36
America's team here, Florida State Seminoles plus 3000 to win
23:39
the conference. Over.
23:41
Under is 6 1/2 wins. Who wants to trounce them first?
23:45
Pete, you want to go first with this one.
23:47
Hey, I'll go first. I'll keep it short so we can
23:49
give you all the time in the world to fire away.
23:51
So 6 1/2 wins. I think there's a better chance
23:55
of me getting 6 1/2 wins than Florida State getting 6 1/2
23:58
wins. I don't like this team.
24:01
I, I, I mean, they're, they're better than Duke, if I could
24:05
give him that. I mean, that's that's about it.
24:07
I think they'll I think they'll be Duke outside of that, yeah.
24:11
Norvell's in trouble. I mean, he's he's in he's in he
24:14
was in serious trouble last. He's in trouble.
24:16
I don't know how he survives the season because I don't see what
24:19
this team is going to do. I don't like their personnel,
24:22
especially on the offensive side.
24:23
I don't, I don't, I, I don't like anything about them.
24:26
So I, I think that, you know, from, I think this team's a, a
24:31
fragile team. And I think that fans are going
24:33
to have a really rough year such as Tim watching this wonderful
24:36
team try to play against teams that they should be able to
24:39
compete with and just not going to.
24:40
So those are my 2 seconds of thoughts.
24:43
Darren, you're up. Yeah, I mean, anytime your
24:46
quarterback is your leading rusher, you're probably in a lot
24:49
of trouble. Statistically, this was not a
24:51
bad team, which tells me the the failure is all on Nordell.
24:56
If you can find odds first coach to be fired, he may be worth a
24:59
look because I I said again, Tim, I'm sorry.
25:03
So I know this is your squad, but I think there's a a long
25:07
year ahead for the Seminoles, unfortunately.
25:10
I mean, getting Tray wiser, Texas is nice, but I mean,
25:13
Ashton Daniels won your quarterback battle.
25:17
Gosh, jeez, that's not good. I'm just taking a look at the
25:23
schedule. SMU in Florida, probably your
25:25
two toughest home games, but again, Rd. game and to Alabama,
25:28
you know, they got a little payback after you guys smacked
25:30
them around last year. Louisville, Miami pit.
25:35
I mean, that could be 6 losses right there.
25:37
I, I don't know, and I know this goes against what you bet, man,
25:41
but I'll see. And I'm sorry.
25:45
I, I, why we do that, man. I just don't.
25:48
I don't see it. Well hopefully he just gets
25:51
fired and he doesn't get arrested too like my coach did.
25:54
Just fired, not arrested as well think possible.
25:57
They give they they only use plastic silverware in Florida,
25:59
so you'll. Be fine, That's right.
26:01
That's true, that one gets too hot from all the humidity.
26:03
They just go with plastic stuff. Yeah, so and it's a sporks, it's
26:07
not it's the forks, you know, combo.
26:09
So that's that's fine. Any all the administrative
26:13
assistants are safe. But yeah, let's continue this.
26:16
So I know it. I know it hasn't been all sunny
26:18
down there in Tallahassee or over there for me down there for
26:21
you guys. I'm going to bet the over here
26:25
you said our quarterback isn't that good.
26:27
I don't think it was that good last year for as many good
26:30
passes Castellano would make, he'd make like 5 or 6 that are
26:33
just, you know, what the hell are you doing?
26:35
I think he was more turnover prone.
26:39
So I think they do have some depth.
26:41
They got some of the kids to stay.
26:42
Some of them that were out in transfer portal, they pointed up
26:46
give him some more money because that's what it's all about here.
26:50
Ashton Daniels, whatever. I mean, he's at the very least
26:54
he's a small upgrade I think from Castellanos.
26:57
I think Norbell's going to take more of a chance.
26:59
I think they they hit the over and he may still get fired.
27:02
I think 8:00 and 4:00, you know, that record would would still
27:06
not be good enough to save his job.
27:07
I think everyone's just got it in for him.
27:08
So no matter what they do this year, I think.
27:10
He will be. Fired.
27:13
I think the schedule's actually a little bit manageable.
27:17
So this team, obviously it's not a ten win powerhouse team, but I
27:22
think they can get up with the 6 1/2 wins.
27:26
I just I think this will be a bounce back here.
27:27
I'm rooting for it because I'd like to see everyone just, you
27:31
know, trounce on Norville and I'd like to see on bounce back
27:33
and have a good year and then have everyone like start kissing
27:36
his ass again. I hope he tells them all to go
27:37
to hell, but that's my thing. I'm not going to rant too, too
27:41
much because I'm still battling his sore throat.
27:44
But yeah, I still like the over at 6 1/2 getting plus 1/15 on
27:49
the Hard Rock bets. Still going to be a long year,
27:52
but I think they clear it, but barely.
27:54
I think Norville still gets fired and that's all I got to
27:58
say about that. Any thoughts?
28:00
Well, your blue title there is absolutely on point today.
28:02
FSU Homer cause his thing is juiced heavily to the under.
28:06
So you're like the one guy standing out there saying
28:08
they're going over. So that's that's good.
28:11
If you're a Homer, you should be saying.
28:12
Tim, I'm gonna disagree. I think if they could wait in
28:14
four, I think he keeps his job. He might, yeah, I think.
28:17
He's I think he does. They're not supposed to go with
28:19
this. Team in that schedule, I think
28:21
he keeps his job. I agree if they win.
28:23
I hope he does. I mean, if they win seven games,
28:25
he might, he might keep his job. So I you know.
28:29
Well, he, they, there was, they made everyone made a big stink.
28:31
He fired Patrick, Sir Tan as a defensive backs coach and
28:34
everyone, obviously everyone that wants him gone and all
28:36
kicking him around for that. He knows this is the year it's
28:40
put up or shut up. So if it's if it's a mistake and
28:43
he loses his job, I think he'll be able to live with that.
28:46
But if he keeps them and it ends up being a mistake and he still
28:49
loses his job, he won't be able to deal with that, you know,
28:51
make your own mistakes. So if getting rid of Sir Tan and
28:54
that makes the defensive backs even worse than they were last
28:56
year, then fine, it's a mistake. But he's going to go out making
28:59
his own mistakes. He kept some of the coaches
29:02
there and yeah, we'll see what happens.
29:06
I think they can do it. I think they can get minimum 7.
29:09
I'll be surprised if they get 8 and 4.
29:11
But I think they get to a bowl game.
29:14
I think they get seven wins. Don't ask me to point them out
29:17
which ones. I think they'll win a few games
29:19
that a lot of people will have them underdogs in for sure.
29:23
And no one thinks that they're going to win so.
29:25
Be a positive year for them. That'd be a really good year for
29:27
your team, honestly. And for him.
29:28
He needs that. So yeah.
29:30
Yeah, he needs it because by all accounts, everybody you know
29:33
outside of the stadium, you know, they all love the guy.
29:35
I see how much a great guy he is so.
29:38
Yeah, he seems like a great dude.
29:38
So I mean, I'm roots for the guy to do well.
29:41
I don't want him to do poorly, but yeah, I.
29:43
Don't know the, you know, I listen to like the lockdown and
29:46
some of the other ones and they're all just like, you know,
29:50
three years ago they were all praising the guy.
29:52
They were scared he was going to go and they're all banging him
29:54
to stay. And now, you know, he's the
29:56
worst coach ever and should be coaching Pop Warner somewhere.
30:00
So the weather game, whichever way the wind blows, that's the
30:03
way the media is going to go. So we'll see what happens.
30:06
Always the way it is all right. Before I start ranting even
30:09
more, let's go on Georgia Tech plus 3000 and win a conference.
30:12
Also, 6 1/2 wins is the over under.
30:16
Darren, let's start with you with Georgia Tech.
30:19
Yeah, this is the one theme I went back and forth on a couple
30:23
of times. I I really have no idea what to
30:25
make of this team. I mean, initially you could say,
30:27
well, both coordinators and Haynes King are gone.
30:29
It's all gloom and doom, but I don't know, offensive it is.
30:34
I mean, they still have an excellent running back tandem.
30:37
What? I got your Michigan guy there
30:38
with the Justice Haynes. Now Guy Hosley helps him out.
30:43
They got a Mendoza playing quarterback.
30:45
I mean, how bad can this offense be?
30:46
You know, Fernando's little brother probably going to be the
30:49
starting quarterback here. You know, they do have to
30:53
replace, I believe 3 starters on the line.
30:56
That could be an issue. But I think offense me, they're
30:59
going to be OK. I mean, they're going to
31:01
basically do what they did when they had Haines King, which is
31:05
try and run the ball, control the clock, keep their defense
31:07
off the field. But I mean, this schedule's not
31:10
terrible though. So I I saw the 6 1/2.
31:13
I saw that it's a little bit of plus money on FanDuel.
31:16
And I thought, oh, you know, I love me some plus money win
31:18
totals when I think that number may be off.
31:21
But looking at that schedule, it's not awful.
31:25
I mean, you get Tennessee at home.
31:28
I've heard differing opinions on Tennessee.
31:30
We we obviously haven't done the SEC yet, but you know, the road
31:34
games. What do you got Pit Clemson and
31:36
Georgia? Well, the Georgia's always the
31:37
rivalry game at the end of the year.
31:39
Who knows how that's going to go over.
31:40
I I kind of I didn't initially have a lean when I was looking
31:44
over my notes last night. Maybe a slight lean of the over
31:47
if you could still get that plus one O 6 there.
31:50
I I don't hate this team, but I have questions with the defense.
31:55
So I did not fire anything here, Yeah.
32:00
You. You basically so reading off my
32:03
script, I mean, I think you nailed it.
32:04
This is a really interesting plus money situation with that
32:07
over and I've I've gone back and forth too.
32:10
I'm looking at so they have 7 home games, right, which
32:13
certainly is going to help them out.
32:15
I mean, yeah, there's a few that are pretty tough, but you go
32:17
through this, can you find 7 seven wins?
32:19
I mean, I think so. I mean it's that's why I go back
32:24
and forth. I can see 6 for sure Seven.
32:26
I don't know it's close. I'm so sane, but I've gone I
32:29
went back and forth on this, but I you know, I I do think that
32:33
the offense is going to be fine. I think they're going to play
32:35
well. I don't think that's going to be
32:37
an issue other than the offensive line, as you mentioned
32:39
right. So we'll see how that goes, but
32:41
I'm I'm assuming it's going to go OK ish.
32:43
So we'll see yeah. I mean, I once again, this is
32:47
another one we're going with the over here.
32:51
What makes sense. I mean, I I would not blame
32:54
anybody for doing that. I almost did myself right.
32:55
It's definitely a lean for me on the over, maybe not as strong of
33:00
a lean as my other lean, but definitely, definitely a lean.
33:05
It's something that I could still play as well, especially
33:08
that plus money. I mean, you don't get plus money
33:10
like that very often in a situation like this.
33:13
So it is very intriguing and I think this team will be, I think
33:18
this team's still going to be good.
33:19
They're not going to be as good as last year, probably not
33:21
whether they're nine and four last year or something, they're
33:23
not going to be that. But I think they're still going
33:24
to be a pretty good team. So we'll see how it plays out,
33:26
but that over is quite intriguing.
33:29
One thing for sure, they will run the damn ball going to the
33:33
coach. That's what you got to do.
33:35
And we're going to move on to Louisville or Louisville or
33:38
wherever hell they say it. So they got +1000 to win the
33:41
conference. The over under win total is 7
33:44
1/2. Peter's good with you because
33:46
Darren's got to play. He's got the hat on.
33:47
He's got the merch. Peter, any thoughts with
33:51
Louisville? Man, I I'm going to save a lot
33:54
of time for Darren. This is a team that baffles me a
33:56
little bit. I mean, plus 850 was what I saw
33:59
plus thousand here. You know, that's, that's that's
34:03
intriguing. But I think for sure, you know,
34:07
if I was going to, I mean, this over 7 1/2 is playable, but it's
34:10
juice, right? So I probably wouldn't touch
34:12
that because of the juice, but that 850 or well that that I
34:16
pulled earlier that thousand here is especially at 1000.
34:20
That is quite interesting 'cause they certainly haven't.
34:23
They just have a chance. Now that that said, well,
34:26
Miami's still coming up here. I I think Miami's going to win
34:28
this conference hands down. But that said, if anybody else
34:34
is going to win it, it could very well be Louisville.
34:35
So I do like that bet 'cause if Miami stumbles and they very
34:40
well could, then this is the team that's going to pick it up.
34:43
So, so it is very it's an interesting play.
34:46
It makes sense that plus 1000. So yeah, I, I would, I would
34:50
like that bet. All right, Darren, the floor is
34:53
yours. Yeah, so like a couple maybe
34:57
like a month ago we did the Big 12 Part 1.
35:00
And you know, one of the things I do here for the show is I get
35:03
all these guys bets that they made like the Tuesday or
35:05
Wednesday before send it off to Tim so he can make the graphic.
35:08
And when I when I got some of your stuff for your Tim's
35:10
Arizona bet, Pete's Baylor bet, I was like, man, I'm interested
35:13
to hear what these guys say because I'm I was kind of on the
35:18
other side of of what you guys were thinking.
35:20
And correct me if I'm wrong, you both basically said, you know,
35:23
you have faith in the quarterback.
35:26
Tim was a fan of a feeder. Pete said he believes in in
35:28
Lagway to have a bounce back here.
35:30
Well, I'm joining the believe it in the QB train because I'm all
35:34
in on Lincoln King Holtz. All right, love.
35:37
It absolutely love it. First of all, defensively, this
35:40
team was really good last year. I mean, they did roll into
35:43
Miami, intercept Carson Beck four times and come away with a
35:47
win. Unfortunately, that did not lead
35:50
to a conference championship appearance, but this defense
35:52
should still be good. They are replacing a lot in the
35:54
secondary, but they did hit the portal to fill in some of those
35:58
holes and the defensive line looks great.
35:59
I mean, any secondary is going to look better when you have a
36:01
defensive line. They can get to the quarterback,
36:03
which I believe Louisville has. Now offensively, while we've got
36:06
nothing to go on from the quarterback, handful of things I
36:10
like here. First, Isaac Brown entered the
36:12
portal, came back out of the portal.
36:13
So they have a stud in the backfield which will be helpful.
36:16
Lost a ton of receivers and tight ends, I guess especially
36:19
Lacey and Bell. They're they're top 2, but they
36:22
hit the portal hard at both wide receiver and tight end.
36:25
They got Vanderbilt's leading wide receiver, Trey Richardson.
36:27
They got the Tulsa tight end Brady Foley, who LED Tulsa in
36:32
receiving yards and receiving touchdowns.
36:34
So they have surrounded King Holtz with pretty good
36:37
productive players at all the skilled positions here.
36:40
Offensive line, a little bit of question mark on the ends, but
36:42
but the middle part of that old line looks really good.
36:44
And Jeff Brohm, this guy's going to make me go back into therapy
36:48
like 2023 Oklahoma State. This dude always pulls off an
36:53
upset. He's like the Georgia Tech head
36:54
coach, always beat somebody he's not supposed to beat and then
36:57
always lays a pile of shit against a a team that he's
37:01
supposed to steamroll. And last year, perfect example,
37:04
rolling into Miami and beating the Hurricanes.
37:07
And I'm thinking, wow, hey, that that eight to one that I got for
37:10
them to win the conference is looking really good.
37:12
And then they shit the bed at home against California.
37:15
So I was like, all right, that's Jeff Brohm doing Jeff Brohm
37:18
things. Did I learn my lesson?
37:20
Hell no, I am back on them. I mean, Jeff Brohm with
37:24
quarterbacks, he's usually really, really good.
37:26
Now, maybe that's on me. Miller Moss, obviously not that
37:29
guy. You know he's not going to hit
37:31
on every transfer portal QB he gets, but let's remember he got
37:35
great stats out of Tyler Shuck 2 years ago.
37:37
He got great stats out of Jack Plummer three years ago when he
37:40
was a head coach at Purdue. He got multiple good years out
37:43
of Aiden O'Connell. All right, those three guys
37:45
couldn't run if you were chasing them with a flamethrower.
37:48
At least Keene Holtz gives you some mobility here.
37:51
So there's not going to be a lot ass of him to start with.
37:54
That opening week against Ole Miss, man, that is on a Sunday
37:58
night. And you know what sucks?
37:59
Sunday night, Labor Day weekend, there's two games, Notre Dame in
38:02
Wisconsin and this Louisville, Ole Miss, and they kick off at
38:05
the same time. Who's the dumbass that scheduled
38:07
it? Why would you do that?
38:09
Dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.
38:11
But anyway. Yeah.
38:15
I'm going to go with Jeff Rahm getting back on the I can figure
38:17
out my quarterback take because I mean, he doesn't have his own
38:20
system. He takes his quarterback.
38:22
He works his offensive system around whoever he has at
38:24
quarterback, so shame on me for not realizing that Miller Moss
38:28
was obviously not that guy and I should have known he didn't
38:30
really light it up at USC. And if you can't light it up
38:32
playing for Lincoln Riley, maybe you're the problem.
38:35
So. And bet MGM had a nice 12:50 so.
38:40
I like that. Yeah, yeah.
38:42
So I I saw like plus 800, I think FanDuel had plus 850.
38:45
I was going to leave it alone, but I was like, you know what,
38:47
let me just check that MGM see what they have. 12:50 I fired
38:51
right away, but I guess so, yeah, I do leave a half unit
38:55
play here on Louisville to win the conference at 12:50.
39:00
And if they screw me a second year in a row, we'll have a
39:04
ceremonial burning of the of the Cardinal.
39:07
There we go. That doesn't matter.
39:09
Come on, do two things. Number one, we don't learn any
39:11
lessons here, so you'll just go right back to the.
39:12
Troll. That's also true.
39:13
I will probably. We're like, we're like dogs or
39:15
or fat people at a buffet. We just go right back up until
39:17
they take the food away. The second thing, the Miami
39:21
Louisville game that we went to was most one of the most
39:23
enjoyable. It was the most enjoyable game
39:25
that we went to. That game was great.
39:28
Like so anybody out there was looking for games to go to.
39:30
Going to watch those two teams play was awesome.
39:33
You should definitely consider it, especially Louisville.
39:36
That atmosphere was awesome. It was a great game.
39:38
Highly recommended. Bet the over.
39:41
Town The. Over bet the over because they
39:43
could stop each other at all. It was a scoring fast.
39:45
It was great. Cam Ward has the ability.
39:48
Well, that was that was that was Pete Miami.
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They had Cam Ward running the offense.
39:52
Their defence couldn't stop anybody.
39:53
I mean, that was beautiful. Actually amazing.
39:57
Well, Speaking of Miami, it's all about to you.
40:00
That's what I say. So we got the fighting crystal
40:02
balls. They are at -135 to win the
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conference. The over under is 10 1/2 wins.
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We think we do have a play on this one.
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We're going to start with Darren.
40:13
Maybe crystal ball will do some crystal balling here.
40:15
What do you think on the? Mighty Hurricanes.
40:17
I don't know, man, I I want him to crystal ball, but I think we
40:20
discussed this last year. He didn't crystal ball at all.
40:23
I mean he did he did not have a crystal ball moment.
40:25
I was I was very disappointed. So shout out to him.
40:30
Maybe after all that time he has learned the question.
40:34
I first of all, I know Pete and I disagreed on this a little
40:36
bit. I do think Darien menses A
40:37
slight upgrade over Carson back. I think there's just more that
40:40
he can do that that could not at LFP.
40:45
The Carson Becks died, but that that's just my thoughts.
40:47
All right. So Malkitoni probably the best
40:49
player on the field anytime Miami is involved in a college
40:53
football game. But again, we talked about not
40:55
only men to transferring, but his top wide receiver
40:57
transferring also from Duke. So I think there's going to be
41:00
some some continuity on that offense right away.
41:02
You've got Mark Fletcher returning in the backfield.
41:05
So I don't see any issue with this offense other than the O
41:08
line Cristobal. You know, we joke about them all
41:12
the time, but the dude can recruit talent.
41:14
All right though, that O line and that D line last year were
41:16
both insane and that's that's the reason they got as far as
41:19
they got. That being said, those are the
41:22
two biggest question marks I have for this team because they
41:25
lost so many players to the draft.
41:28
I guess we'll find out how good a recruiter Cristobal is.
41:33
So the depth on those two position groups is my only
41:35
concern. This schedule's a joke, but
41:40
yeah, if they can't get to the quarterback or if they can't
41:42
stop any people, anybody from getting to Mensa, they might not
41:47
be in the ACC title game again. But yeah, I mean, Homer talk
41:54
maybe, but I think Notre Dame's going to smack the shit out of
41:57
these guys in November when they meet.
42:00
And if I'm working that day, I'll be calling out.
42:02
I'll. But yeah, I, I mean, the
42:06
schedule's not not anything that scares me.
42:10
But again, you've got questions on the line.
42:13
So we'll we'll see. We'll see.
42:14
I, I have no lean or bet on here.
42:18
Selfishly, I'm kind of hoping that they that they only go like
42:21
maybe 9:00 and 3:00 because I'm not a fan of Miami and because I
42:24
have a bet on Louisville. But slightest of leans to the
42:29
under just because questions on both sides of the line all.
42:33
Right, Peter, over to you. Yeah, I do have a bet here.
42:36
I have a pretty heavy one actually.
42:37
So I mean, to me, this is a really good team.
42:40
That 10 1/2 is a bad number, right?
42:43
I, I don't like that number at all.
42:46
Honestly. I think this team can be
42:48
relatively elite and still go 10 and two.
42:51
That's that's my view here. And I agree with Darren 100%.
42:53
When I look at the schedule, right?
42:54
And when I went game by game through this thing, I am
42:57
counting that Notre Dame is a loss because I think they're
42:59
going to go up there and I think they're going to get beat,
43:01
especially what is that November later in the year they're going
43:04
to get beat. And so I need one more loss
43:06
somewhere in here, right? And I'm looking through I'm
43:08
like, well, I mean, Stanford, of course, I'm leaving Miami there
43:12
going down. So they're going to beat
43:14
Central, probably going to beat Wake, Clemson at Clemson, who
43:19
knows, right? I mean it that that that's
43:20
dangerous. That could be that.
43:22
Could be the one right there, right?
43:25
Certainly, you know, Duke leaning Miami and I don't Boston
43:29
College are going to beat. So I mean that that's got to be
43:31
the one to me. Maybe Revatech, I don't know.
43:34
I mean, so I just need one more loss.
43:36
I need them. I need AI need a crystal ball
43:38
moment. That's what I need.
43:40
And one of those other games I need a crystal ball moment just
43:42
to lose one more and I got it right.
43:45
And that's what I think is going to happen.
43:46
So I think they probably will lose 2 games and that's all I
43:50
need and but still I think they're going to win the
43:52
conference. As I said earlier, when they're
43:54
talking about Louisville, I think they're going to win the
43:56
conference. So that's why I'm going heavy on
43:58
this. I'm going 3 units on the under
44:01
just because I think the Notre Dame thing will happen.
44:03
They will lose that game and I think they're just going to stub
44:06
their toe one more time someplace else.
44:08
It won't hurt them longer term because they're going to win the
44:10
conference, I think, and they'll move along from there.
44:13
So I would not be surprised if they had an earlier in the
44:17
season stumble somewhere along the way.
44:20
Who knows, But you know, Clemson's what Game 5, I think
44:23
on their schedule, so I could I could see that happening.
44:25
I would not be surprised there. Hey, maybe, maybe if FSU is is
44:30
as good as you know, better. It's like Tim is saying, you
44:33
know, who knows? I mean, that's a that's a
44:34
rivalry game. So you never know in those games
44:36
who's going to who's going to do what.
44:38
So that's a possibility there. So who knows, right.
44:41
But I think, yeah, that under is really, really juicy here.
44:45
So I am all over it with three units.
44:48
Maybe we can count on the two time zone thing.
44:51
Week one at Stanford. We'll see what happens, yeah.
44:54
The tree is going to take him down I.
44:55
Love it. That would be nice.
44:57
That would be great. Get that first one out of the
44:59
way right there in the middle. He does have a track record of
45:02
hitting multi unit win totals in September so.
45:06
It's true. That is true proven track
45:08
record. So, and we're going to wrap up
45:11
today's with the North Carolina State Wolfpack AR Plus 2500 to
45:16
win the conference over under a four and a half wins.
45:19
Darren, let's go to you to start this one.
45:22
What is he about the Wolfpack I. Think that over under is off
45:24
because I'm showing 7 1/2. Here I'm seeing 7 1/2 too.
45:27
It's like, oh, that doesn't match up at all.
45:31
It was 6 1/2 when I initially started my notes, but it was so
45:34
heavily juiced to the over that I saw FanDuel today.
45:37
Moved it to 7 1/2 with minus. One, those two numbers don't
45:40
line up at all. Then 25104 1/2 no all.
45:44
Right no worries either way. This schedules a joke.
45:50
I I didn't have a chance to look at the other eight teams, which
45:52
is why I didn't do any win total bets for for this first part of
45:56
this preview here. But I look at this team on paper
46:00
and outside of CJ Bailey coming back to be the quarterback, what
46:03
else does this team have other than a soft schedule that would
46:06
lead me to believe that this is an ACC championship contender?
46:10
I mean, maybe the schedule's enough to get it done.
46:12
You lost Hollywood Smothers, you lost your top two wide
46:14
receivers, your defense was awful.
46:16
You only got 20 sacks on the year in 12 games, and you're at
46:20
the bottom of a lot of defensive categories in the conference.
46:23
Someone tell me that I don't know when, when you just look
46:27
this bad, you know, I saw the 6 1/2 heavy juice and I looked at
46:32
the schedule. I'm like, Oh my God, this could
46:33
be a nine win team. It's a schedule.
46:35
It's all the schedule, right? I mean, this is not about.
46:37
To be all the schedule. I mean, Virginia, you know, Dan,
46:41
they were in the ACC title game last year.
46:43
You're going to an SEC school there early September in
46:45
Vanderbilt, you got Louisville. I mean, we can scratch weight
46:49
'cause they got Gio Lopez. We know how terrible he is.
46:52
But again, you got that cross country trip to Stanford.
46:55
You know, if if Florida State's playing like anything, that's
46:58
going to be a tough place to play.
47:00
But my God, how does this team not win 8 games?
47:06
Yeah. I mean, where do you see 4
47:08
losses on? There, yeah, it's hard to hard
47:11
to find 4 losses exactly. Unless you get them all early.
47:14
I mean unless Virginia, Vandy, and Louisville all end up being
47:17
losses you just have to hope for you know.
47:20
But I mean still even if they lose eggs I hope for like 2 more
47:23
screw ups to to not hit the over.
47:25
I just. I mean, they could.
47:27
Flame. They could easily run the the
47:30
last five, the last six, they could easily run those last six
47:34
games and win them all right. I mean, they they could.
47:36
So I that, yeah. Yeah.
47:40
I I, I just, I don't, I don't say, I mean, I don't, I don't
47:43
like anything on the about this team except for the quarterback,
47:47
but they might not need much more than that to, to win eight
47:49
games here. So I mean, I guess, you know,
47:53
quarterback play is, is key. They've got one I guess I would
47:57
lean over, but I don't dare fire it because I don't know anything
48:01
else about this team. Yeah, same quick play.
48:05
Yeah, look, I had that Part 2. The North Carolina Tar Heels
48:08
over under is 4 1/2 the wrong one on my phone.
48:11
Didn't notice it. You know what, it's weird 'cause
48:17
like North Carolina, you think would have come to
48:19
alphabetically before North Carolina State, but where I
48:21
pulled it from, they put NC State.
48:24
So NC came before NO. So that's how we got the Wolf
48:28
Pack instead of the Tar Heels for this show.
48:30
So. I bring the alphabet.
48:32
That's why makes perfect sense I guess.
48:34
For eyesight or fever or whatever.
48:37
So I. Don't know.
48:38
I mean Pete, Tim, am I wrong? I mean the the schedule's name.
48:41
Do you guys like anything besides the quarterback?
48:43
Should I? Just clear I mean.
48:45
Like. 700 everything. 110 seems like almost a Gimme at this
48:49
point. If I could get my hands in a 6
48:51
1/2 still, still somewhere, anywhere, I would be all over
48:54
that over 6 1/2. Seven and a half is I still
48:57
think they're going to go over 7 1/2, but it's a little tighter,
49:00
right. Definitely leaning in the seven
49:01
and a half. I would play the 6 1/2 if I
49:03
could get it. All right.
49:04
That's because I agree. I don't, I don't think this
49:06
team's that great. The quarterback's fine, but the
49:08
schedule, as you said, is a is is a freaking cakewalk.
49:11
So other than a few. Yeah, Well, they're.
49:13
Going to lose. They're going to lose the
49:17
Louisville they're going to. Lose the Virginia.
49:20
Yeah. I mean, Vanderbilt's down, but I
49:23
still think going there and winning is going to be tough.
49:26
And I mean, those last two games are kind of interesting because
49:28
like you say, you don't know what Florida State's going to
49:30
look like. You know, Bobby Petrino is the
49:32
offensive coordinator at North Carolina now.
49:34
I believe if there's anybody that can get North Carolina to
49:37
put up some points and their defense was playing, their
49:40
defense was playing pretty legit at the end of last year.
49:43
So I mean, maybe they lose 1 or both of those last two, but I
49:48
mean, if CJ Bailey takes a step forward like all second year
49:51
quarterbacks we hope do, I don't see how this team's not not a
49:57
nine win team. Yeah, they should win at least
50:00
five out of their last six, I would think.
50:02
All right, so you just need a couple more somewhere else.
50:04
And I I think they're there. So yeah.
50:07
Who's the new OC over there at UNC?
50:11
Katrina. He's on the same coaching staff
50:14
with Bill Belichick. He is I.
50:16
Believe. OK, that'll be interesting to
50:21
watch for sure. Steve Bill Belichick's
50:25
girlfriend off Bobby Petrino's motorcycle.
50:27
It'll be perfect year in in Chapel Hill, baby.
50:30
It's gonna be fantastic. All right, let's wrap up this
50:35
show of Part 1 of the ACC preview.
50:39
We'll start off with my picks. I got 2 units on Duke under 5
50:42
1/2 wins. I got that at -1 O 5 and also I
50:46
have Florida State, 2 units over a 6 1/2 win, shocking the nation
50:50
at plus 115. Pete, what you got?
50:53
I wouldn't be be shocked, yes. So Miami 3 units under 10 1/2
50:59
wins and couple leans that I mentioned before.
51:01
Also, Clemson over 7 1/2 as a lean and potentially Georgia
51:05
Tech over 6 1/2 as a lean. And Darren?
51:08
Yeah, for me right now, just adding in, there may be some
51:11
other win totals. I didn't get a chance to to
51:13
break down the other eight teams.
51:14
So I just have a a conference championship player half unit on
51:18
Louisville to win the conference, 12:50 overhead.
51:22
All right now, I'll do it for this week.
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