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Supporting Your Friends, Rap Talk & Vince Carter' s Almost KO Punch w/Tah O #142 · The Grounded Show

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Speaker 1: Media soundcheck, yo, sound check.
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Speaker 2: All right, there we go. We got what you were saying.
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Speaker 1: I'ma as you ever finally doing this because like I've
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Speaker 1: been ready to see the bloopers.
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Speaker 2: Of what we do each other, the stuff that we
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Speaker 2: say each other.
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Speaker 3: It's funny because I was thinking about it before we
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Speaker 3: started recording, and this is the ground to show. I
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Speaker 3: think it's episode one or one forty two. I need
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Speaker 3: to start checking that before I start saying that. But
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Speaker 3: I was actually thinking about that before we started recording,
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Speaker 3: because I'm like, Yo, it's funny because me and you
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Speaker 3: wouldn't really make sense to people that actually know us exactly,
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like if like if it
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Speaker 3: wasn't for like the fact that we grew up kind
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Speaker 3: of together, you know what I mean, Like we're just
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Speaker 3: like mad opposite. So it's probably like even funny for
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Speaker 3: some people to see us like together talking like this
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Speaker 3: for the.
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Speaker 2: First time, besides you know, being around us for a
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Speaker 2: long Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, facts. But yeah, man. One of the things that
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Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you and kind of spark something
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Speaker 3: in my mind about having you on is I've seen
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Speaker 3: you post a story basically saying like you're down to
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Speaker 3: like support anybody that rocks with you or like you
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Speaker 3: rock with them, Like no matter what it is, you
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Speaker 3: support it, you know what I mean. Like, it don't
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Speaker 3: got to be like dope, it don't got to be
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Speaker 3: like you don't really vet the content, You're just like, Yo,
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Speaker 3: if I rock with you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I mean someone's gonna see it. And
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Speaker 1: the thing I mean like obviously, I mean there's times
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Speaker 1: like I mean, I'm gonna go back and.
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Speaker 2: I be like, whoa, you know what I'm saying, Yo,
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Speaker 2: that wasn't it home? Do you know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 2: You might want to go back.
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Speaker 1: But the point is like if I rock with you,
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Speaker 1: or if you've even shared any of my stuff, like
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Speaker 1: once or twice, have I seen it? Bro, I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna be shared this because I've seen it, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. And it might be five views, it
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Speaker 1: might be one hundred if people are laughing at you,
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Speaker 1: or you might gain a fan, but I'm just trying.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I call it like a blind endorsement almost,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: So seeing hearing you say that and thinking about it,
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Speaker 3: I think it's like kind of interesting because my mentality
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Speaker 3: on it is kind of the opposite, Like I look
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Speaker 3: at like if I'm sharing something, it's like I'm giving you,
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Speaker 3: like yo, this is dope. Like I like to have
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Speaker 3: like the curated endorsements, you know what I mean, Like, Yo,
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Speaker 3: if I'm telling you to rock with this is because
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Speaker 3: it's top level, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 2: I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be the guy that's like recommending
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Speaker 3: people the stuff for things that like I don't know
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Speaker 3: if they're for real, you know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 3: especially you know how people be bro. They might hit
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Speaker 3: you like yo, man, I use your voice business that
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Speaker 3: you shared and heals me this or.
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Speaker 1: That, Like yeah, bro, come on man, Yeah, well that's
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Speaker 1: that's a little different.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: I mainly like blind endorsed with like music or like
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Speaker 1: parties and stuff. I mean stuff that I don't even
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Speaker 1: have to have a major opinion on businesses, so.
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Speaker 3: Like lighthearted stuff.
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Speaker 2: You're lighthearted, but like if that makes sense if it
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Speaker 2: was something more.
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Speaker 1: Like you're doing like heart surgery and you killed your last.
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Speaker 3: Facts, Like everybody knows that person that every month they
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Speaker 3: make an Instagram for like a new business venture, and
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Speaker 3: then they get mad when you don't recommend people to
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Speaker 3: their business. Like, Bro, you've been doing this thing shorter
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Speaker 3: than I've done it, you know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 3: if you've if I've done one project of what you're doing,
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Speaker 3: I've already done more than you. Like, like people be
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Speaker 3: popping up with a new like chat GBT logo and
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Speaker 3: an Instagram handling. They want you to feel like, yo,
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Speaker 3: I'm for real, Like no, you're not.
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Speaker 1: Like, Bro, you're not because I know the chat DTP
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Speaker 1: fonts like theyn't even try even changing the farm.
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Speaker 2: Like so I'm gonna teach you like a small cery.
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Speaker 2: You could take that same logo and it's changed the fawn.
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Speaker 1: No one knows chadd But the fact that the fonts
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Speaker 1: are all the same. They got like six different fonts.
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Speaker 2: On that, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that whole that whole thing is crazy, man. Just
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Speaker 3: like people be like just because they say they're doing something,
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Speaker 3: they feel like you got you also as like a
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Speaker 3: friend of theirs, have to like fully support it, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it's like, bro, like we
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Speaker 3: were even talking earlier about like other situations and stuff,
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Speaker 3: but like just the idea of like I'm not gonna
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Speaker 3: stand a person just because I'm cool with them, like
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Speaker 3: because being cool with somebody and actually like knowing they
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Speaker 3: stand on business when it comes to anything going on,
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Speaker 3: those are like two completely different.
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Speaker 1: Especially with money, especially with money, especially with like real money,
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Speaker 1: because you know that we're older, you know, you know
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Speaker 1: most people that we are around or you know, our
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Speaker 1: adults man like, so we save money, and you know
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Speaker 1: when we save money, you know what's the next point
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Speaker 1: is saving money is to make money with.
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Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the last time I endorsed somebody and it
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Speaker 1: was actually a good friend, like it was some adventure
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Speaker 1: in the Cali or whatever, and Bro, he.
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Speaker 2: Just went through this person's money. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, n Bro, I talked to your mom about
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Speaker 1: the like I know they talked to his mother about
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Speaker 1: the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, bro, that's it's crazy. Bro.
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Speaker 1: So that ever since then, I definitely stopped endorsing anybody's business,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Music is different, though, Yeah, yeah, I get that. Definitely
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Speaker 3: like stuff you can kind of just bro check this out.
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Speaker 1: It might be for you, especially since I feel like
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Speaker 1: you know you, I me and you have grown up together.
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Speaker 2: With music.
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Speaker 1: I've been such a prude with music as a kid,
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Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't make my friends stop rapping if you
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Speaker 1: were terrible. Oh butait yo, Bro, you suck, you can't rap.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna write your first for you like I would like,
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Speaker 1: you know, like like we both would tell our friends no,
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Speaker 1: like you're not on our song anymore unless we get
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Speaker 1: to write the verse.
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Imagine how many friends we held back because trash rap
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Speaker 1: is the most important rap in Like, trash rap is
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Speaker 1: probably more important than than the lyrical rap right now. Bro, Literally, Bro,
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Speaker 1: it's probably the only thing keeping hip hop viral right now.
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Speaker 2: Yo.
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Speaker 3: And that kind of ties into something he was talking about
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Speaker 3: earlier and before we continue. You know, the mic is
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Speaker 3: not a hostage. You know, you could you know, put it,
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Speaker 3: put it right into your.
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Speaker 2: Mouth and yo.
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Speaker 3: But something we were talking about earlier, like the rap
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Speaker 3: art form that we talking about and we grew up with,
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Speaker 3: that's like that's gone, you know what I mean. Like
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Speaker 3: the way I looked at it was like the person
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Speaker 3: that you had the idea of. Like, Yo, if I'm
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Speaker 3: sitting on a street corner somewhere and somebody comes and
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Speaker 3: asks me like, Yo, you a rapper, let me hear
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Speaker 3: something that you could drop something just with your voice.
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Speaker 2: Sixteen eight.
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Speaker 3: That is just so dope that somebody's like, yo, you're
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Speaker 3: the one, you know what I mean, Like nobody's attacking
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Speaker 3: rap like that. No more, Like that's not the mindset.
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying
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Speaker 3: that's the reality of it. And I look at it like, bro,
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Speaker 3: it's rap kind of like disco, Like does it just
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Speaker 3: run its course and die? Like it turns into something else,
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Speaker 3: Like the energy is like transferred, you know, like because
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Speaker 3: even like them disco grooves, they went into that hip
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Speaker 3: hop world, you know, they use a lot of disco samples.
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Speaker 2: It definitely came back, definitely came back for sure.
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Speaker 3: It's like a new like iteration of it almost, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: One thing that I seen online it was it was
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Speaker 1: a point where like Jada Kiss and uh Fat Joe,
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Speaker 1: they were mentioned something like rap needs to establish more
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Speaker 1: genres and sub genres to it.
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Speaker 2: It needs to just be like, yo, this is.
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Speaker 1: A punk rock rap or like you know, like the
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Speaker 1: same way that like rock has so many different genres.
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Speaker 1: I feel like rap and itself has evolved in so
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Speaker 1: many different other art forms where it needs to establish dramas.
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Speaker 1: Like when we go to the Grammys and they talk
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Speaker 1: about this is the rap album the year.
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Speaker 2: That's kind of like broad Us brought us hack right in.
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Speaker 3: Fact, that's that's definitely something super subjective. We talked back
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Speaker 3: in the day too, like about like I don't think
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Speaker 3: uh Roddy Rich is a rapper. I don't think Gun
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Speaker 3: is a rapper. I don't think a Future is a rapper.
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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Not my style rapping the
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Speaker 3: sense of like what you think rap is no, but
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Speaker 3: they are they fire to be their fire. But I'm
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Speaker 3: not listening to it like I'm listening to Jadakiss or
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Speaker 3: Cole or something.
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Speaker 2: I'm not stopping you.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna grab your shoulder.
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Speaker 2: But did you hear that bar? That's never happening ever?
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Speaker 3: And even that is like to a certain point, is
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Speaker 3: that that you know what I'm saying, because like how
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Speaker 3: many more punchlines can you come up with? Like how
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Speaker 3: much more clever can you say that you're a clever rapper?
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Speaker 1: Un To start crying when I start thinking about it, bro,
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Speaker 1: It's definitely. I mean even I mean looking like people
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Speaker 1: don't even care about what like Lil Wayne says anymore, no.
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Speaker 3: Facts, and even like we were talking about me and
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Speaker 3: Joe was talking about Lil Wayne last week on the
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Speaker 3: pod and a lot of people was commenting, like, y'all
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Speaker 3: not listening.
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Speaker 2: That's the thing.
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Speaker 3: Bro. It's like I'm listening to dog, But to what
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Speaker 3: point can I get excited about the same saying like
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Speaker 3: a punch sign about something, I'll do this like that,
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Speaker 3: I'm like this and like it's like, bro.
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Speaker 2: It has to be new, Bro, it has to be no.
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Speaker 2: It has to be no.
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Speaker 3: And even if it's like one of those things where
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Speaker 3: like the early Little Win albums, they had concepts, you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, like it had a mood like
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Speaker 3: he made I mean the first Carter Bro. He made
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Speaker 3: it literally like you was walking into a card. Yes,
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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. He just made it basically
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Speaker 3: like a multi like he made you imagine it like
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Speaker 3: it was like a huge trap, like with levels in
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Speaker 3: it and everything, and like the way like the walking
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Speaker 3: the walk out, like all the little intros and middles
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Speaker 3: and Outrosman Junior all that stuff. Yeah, it was like
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Speaker 3: it was like a whole feel And now like when
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Speaker 3: you just sound like you're you're quote unquote spasm overbeats.
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Speaker 2: No one cares. No one cares.
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Speaker 3: I mean, people do care because they're telling me in
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Speaker 3: the comments.
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Speaker 2: But they know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: But they really don't though, because they care to a degree.
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Speaker 1: Their only care because they want to disagree with you.
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Speaker 1: I feel like, but when it comes like the defending.
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Speaker 3: I have to disagree with that because I feel like
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Speaker 3: those are the people that are going to the concerts
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Speaker 3: and stuff like still like, for example, Lil Wayne, don't
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Speaker 3: care what we're saying because we're not going to a
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Speaker 3: Lil Wayne show and buying the merge and like being
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Speaker 3: in the front row singing every lyric. We're Lil Wayne
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Speaker 3: fans from back and what day. You know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 3: But right now we not that person. The person that's
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Speaker 3: telling me, now you're tripping, you not listening to the
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Speaker 3: right thing. They're gonna spend that money and go rock
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Speaker 3: with Lil Wayne. Like the argument, And that's another thing too,
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Speaker 3: Like that's even like a little tangent, like the argument
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Speaker 3: was never Lil Wayne is whacked or Lil Wayne's not
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Speaker 3: relevant or he don't got fans or whatever like that
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Speaker 3: was never the you know what I mean, Like what
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Speaker 3: La Russell was saying, it ain't have nothing to do
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Speaker 3: with saying Lil Wayne was whack or he wasn't a
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Speaker 3: lyricist or whatever the case is. He was just talking
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Speaker 3: about comparison to other artists, the content of the songs.
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Speaker 3: And over time, once you kind of analyze what he
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Speaker 3: was saying and what he kept dropping for him, he
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Speaker 3: was like, yo, he not really saying much as far
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Speaker 3: as like moving things forward. But then at the same
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Speaker 3: time shout out to my boy three o five. He
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Speaker 3: was like, you know, you don't want everybody to be
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Speaker 3: on that wave. At the same time, you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, I'm not trying to hear everybody on
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Speaker 3: the Kendrick tip. I don't need to hear Future on
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Speaker 3: the NIP. Sure, I don't need to hear Roddy rich
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Speaker 3: on the Kendrick Tip. But with Lil Wayne, I think
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Speaker 3: maybe for me personally, I just hold him in such
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Speaker 3: high regard that I thought he would give me something more.
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Speaker 2: Eventually, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: But one thing I will say, do you think he's
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Speaker 1: also the victim of putting out too much music, because
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Speaker 1: like if I wanted to, I could probably like surface
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Speaker 1: level grab like twenty Little Ways songs that are deep
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Speaker 1: as hell, you know what I mean. It's like he's
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Speaker 1: a great conscious rapper, you know what I mean, Like
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Speaker 1: he just puts us so much and it's hard for
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Speaker 1: the fan and be like, oh like that when you
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Speaker 1: put out like twenty deep songs with then like one
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Speaker 1: hundred and I means.
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Speaker 3: So that was something we were talking about earlier too,
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Speaker 3: like you look at somebody like AJ was saying, you
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Speaker 3: look at fifty finally because he stopped when like he
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Speaker 3: didn't get old as a round, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Like he was like, you know, probably like under forty
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Speaker 3: when he really really stopped making music, you know what
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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So to look back on his his catalog
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Speaker 3: fondly because he didn't put out the trash, you know
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Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Lil Wayne, he been around for thirty
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Speaker 3: years and he'd been rapping all thirty of the years
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Speaker 3: and dropping my albums all thirty of them years. So
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Speaker 3: do you hold that against him?
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
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Speaker 3: It's like, are you gonna be like, dang, you gave
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Speaker 3: me all this music, you know what I'm saying, Like
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Speaker 3: it's almost like grateful that, like somebody of that level
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Speaker 3: is still going to keep dropping music. But to specifically
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Speaker 3: answer your question, the thing with Wayne is like not
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Speaker 3: that he hurt himself for keep dropping music, but like
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Speaker 3: he never gave us that album. He never gave us
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Speaker 3: the Black Album. You know what I'm saying, He never
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Speaker 3: gave us still Madic, you know what I mean, Or
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Speaker 3: like King Carzes, you know what I mean. No, I'm
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Speaker 3: just saying, like that other album that when they were
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Speaker 3: a little older, it was like.
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Speaker 2: He never had that thelmatic album.
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Speaker 3: Now the song matter changed, like they're more reflective, they're
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Speaker 3: looking back, you know what I'm saying. Like he don't
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Speaker 3: really have that.
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Speaker 1: His closest thing to that is probably with two Chance,
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Speaker 1: their Little Color Girl of album that was a little
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Speaker 1: slap slap, But like.
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Speaker 3: Even that is like he has so many that's not enough.
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Speaker 3: He has so many collab albums that dropped out of
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Speaker 3: nowhere also that it was like hard for me to
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Speaker 3: even care, like when he dropped him and look with
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Speaker 3: Rich the Kid, I'm like, and I think he dropped
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Speaker 3: two albums two joint albums were rich.
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Speaker 2: They never heard this.
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Speaker 3: Now I'm not saying rich. The kid is bad. I
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Speaker 3: haven't heard him in a while, but I remember like
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Speaker 3: the joints he used to have kind of like we
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Speaker 3: were saying, he not he not a bar you up
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Speaker 3: gunn of guy. But he's making catchy dope music type music.
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Speaker 3: But dog, why like what is he? What does he
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Speaker 3: bring it to the table for Little Wayne to be
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Speaker 3: on Like.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I haven't heard his album, so that's
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Speaker 1: that's the answer itself.
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Speaker 2: But now I'm gonna go back.
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Speaker 1: I'm listening to the album and I'm a comment on this.
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Speaker 2: Was trash, that was good. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I just haven't heard it, Bro.
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Speaker 3: Heard anything, But that's what I'm saying. It's like, like
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Speaker 3: you said, does that hurt him? That there's just too
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Speaker 3: much music that's that even a fan didn't even know,
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Speaker 3: Like you.
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Speaker 1: Know, I'm a pure I'm a pure fan too, Bro.
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Speaker 2: I haven't heard any of this. Bro, I'm sure it's
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Speaker 2: there though, I believe.
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Speaker 3: Sure, but it's crazy now he really did though. I
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Speaker 3: was like, I'm serious, I'm about to go back. I'm
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Speaker 3: not one hundred percent sure if they did too, but
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Speaker 3: I'm like eighty percent sure they did too.
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Speaker 2: That it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: Albums, bro, joint albums. I've heard a song, you haven't
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Speaker 3: heard narrow melody.
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard a whisper, but you know that's need
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Speaker 1: to hear it.
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Speaker 2: Bro.
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Speaker 1: We started off this all started off sharing people's like
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Speaker 1: music and went into the dis taste of little Yo.
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Speaker 3: Because speaking of that, like, there's definitely like a specific
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Speaker 3: hip hop crowd that I like try to avoid, you
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Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying. And it's the ones that really
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Speaker 3: care about the bars overally care brouh.
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Speaker 2: I have some of those fans and they like your
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Speaker 2: music sucks. Sometimes.
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Speaker 3: This is like the type of person like I remember,
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Speaker 3: like when I used to wrap, like the type of
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Speaker 3: person that would come up to you and like talk
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Speaker 3: to you about a specific bar and how like you
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Speaker 3: didn't execute it or like or try to like really
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Speaker 3: give you like a like a fiversyport like a person
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? It is like, Bro, like
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Speaker 3: what are we talking about? Very and like that scene
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Speaker 3: is very fickle. I've been a part of a few
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Speaker 3: things in that scene.
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Speaker 2: Bro. Not for me, Bro, it's terrible.
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Speaker 3: Not for me, it's almost like they make themselves miserable
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Speaker 3: about rapping, you know what I mean, Like they don't
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Speaker 3: want to like anything no ever, it's like you have to.
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Speaker 3: You have to come with something out of the box
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Speaker 3: that's clearly trash for people to think it's dope, because
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Speaker 3: they will never give credit to something that's actually dope
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Speaker 3: for now, Like you have that crowd, they have to
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Speaker 3: hear it for eighty three seconds and then catch it
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Speaker 3: for it to be dope. It can't just hit him
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Speaker 3: right off the bat.
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Speaker 2: I thought that crowd is the people who they hate,
16:11
Speaker 2: the Big three like rap.
16:12
Speaker 3: They're like, oh Jacobs, oh yeah, the type that will
16:14
Speaker 3: be like why is that even the conversation? It should
16:17
Speaker 3: be this guy.
16:17
Speaker 1: And.
16:19
Speaker 3: It'd be other rappers that you don't even know who
16:21
Speaker 3: they are.
16:21
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like you hear it, be
16:23
Speaker 2: like that's not it, Like I listened to hip hop.
16:26
Speaker 3: But that even tells you, Like how you were saying
16:28
Speaker 3: why the sub genres are important because there's so much
16:30
Speaker 3: stuff people care about, like even like what's his name?
16:36
Speaker 2: Like the mean yo oh Dax, they're like white. They're
16:43
Speaker 2: like it's like it's like.
16:44
Speaker 3: Concept rap, Like every song is like the point of
16:47
Speaker 3: view like something.
16:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, like the.
16:49
Speaker 3: Point of view of a single da you know Joe, Yeah, exactly,
16:53
Speaker 3: Like but even that, like he does it good, but
16:56
Speaker 3: that's not for me, bro. I'm not trying to hear
16:59
Speaker 3: what the bit with the videos though, but even that
17:03
Speaker 3: like that, that kind of reminds me a battle rap.
17:05
Speaker 3: That's why like battle rappers number for me, because it's
17:06
Speaker 3: like after the one time it's done, bro, Like it
17:10
Speaker 3: is so funny talk about battle rapper.
17:12
Speaker 2: That's it bro, bro Bro.
17:14
Speaker 1: Somebody asked me the other day, he was like, like,
17:16
Speaker 1: who's your top THI your favorite battle rappers?
17:17
Speaker 2: Right?
17:18
Speaker 1: I told him I hate battle rap. He said, but
17:20
Speaker 1: you're a rapper rapper.
17:21
Speaker 3: That's exactly why you hate it.
17:24
Speaker 1: I'd rather hear it on wax. He literally said, but
17:28
Speaker 1: you He's like, but you rap and you like really rap?
17:30
Speaker 1: Like what do you mean you hate battle rap? And
17:32
Speaker 1: I can tell you like he doesn't really like rap,
17:34
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Like he's not like
17:36
Speaker 1: a real rap fan. He just kind of likes music
17:39
Speaker 1: and how it makes him feel, you know what I mean.
17:41
Speaker 1: And he he looked at me with like he looked
17:45
Speaker 1: like he was disgusted from me saying I don't like that.
17:47
Speaker 3: But the funny thing about people that are like that,
17:50
Speaker 3: usually when they when you really get down to the
17:53
Speaker 3: bottom of it, they're not battle rap fans, bro. They
17:56
Speaker 3: watched clips here and there. There's a couple, but most
18:00
Speaker 3: other people are not going to the events. They're not
18:02
Speaker 3: paying for the videos to watch them.
18:04
Speaker 2: Like the battles.
18:05
Speaker 3: They're not keeping up with brackets of rap battles. They're
18:09
Speaker 3: just like pretending like, oh, I'm so hip hop and
18:11
Speaker 3: they talk about battles, but dog, you're not. You're not
18:14
Speaker 3: vibing to that.
18:16
Speaker 1: Not long bro, And know what I'm saying, I'm not
18:19
Speaker 1: like a long time bro, not a long time.
18:20
Speaker 2: I tried.
18:21
Speaker 1: Listen, there's somebody rappers that I've grown like respect.
18:24
Speaker 2: For or whatever. Oh yeah, facts.
18:26
Speaker 1: I mean there's sound like Chef Trez, he's like mad
18:29
Speaker 1: randomly good.
18:30
Speaker 2: I'm like am I.
18:31
Speaker 3: And there's always the stuff that you're gonna come across
18:33
Speaker 3: that is like, oh that's bars he ate him up.
18:37
Speaker 1: But me, I will always forever say I'd rather have
18:39
Speaker 1: heard that on the beat.
18:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, fact, I rather heard that on the song. Bro.
18:43
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you.
18:44
Speaker 3: I mean the rap battle thing like, because even like
18:48
Speaker 3: when we used to watch rap battles, you know, Smack DVD.
18:51
Speaker 2: Day put me on rap Battle.
18:53
Speaker 3: What was what was the other one? There was another
18:56
Speaker 3: Oh you're l you are, but that was a little later.
18:59
Speaker 3: I feel like it was another one grid time. I'm
19:02
Speaker 3: not sure, but I remember seeing all them battles back
19:04
Speaker 3: in the day, and even then it was like, you
19:07
Speaker 3: will watch it because we had the time for it.
19:09
Speaker 3: You know, we was in high school.
19:10
Speaker 2: But we're younger too, so we idolized.
19:12
Speaker 3: But that we just we just watched it and that
19:14
Speaker 3: was what would we do after that? See if that
19:17
Speaker 3: person had any music out? When we pulled up the
19:19
Speaker 3: music and it was trash, we were like, dang, and
19:22
Speaker 3: that was it.
19:22
Speaker 1: The best one that that you showed me from that
19:24
Speaker 1: time was Sirius Jones. He had a couple of dos
19:28
Speaker 1: and the medium and actually end up bringing you up.
19:30
Speaker 1: Like my best friend used to show me your ship,
19:33
Speaker 1: but you ate the hell out of gin.
19:34
Speaker 2: I photos with him whatever. He was mean as he
19:37
Speaker 2: ate up.
19:37
Speaker 3: Hey Yola, pause, yeah bro yo? And what's what's the
19:44
Speaker 3: other hollow? The done is a battle rapper right from
19:47
Speaker 3: out here right I played with him ball at La
19:50
Speaker 3: Fitness one time. He was cool as it was pretty good,
19:55
Speaker 3: but he was dope too. He's a dope battle rap.
19:57
Speaker 1: He's not back either, like actually seen him because of
19:59
Speaker 1: the table Rock, because the tay Rock has one of the.
20:02
Speaker 2: Like most like played like memes. It's talking about like
20:07
Speaker 2: he's like, it's looking like I'm trying to buckle my.
20:10
Speaker 3: Seat and it's not oh yeah, you're talking about It's.
20:13
Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to buckle and it won't buckle up.
20:15
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
20:15
Speaker 1: Okay, stabbing like that was against Hollowda Done.
20:18
Speaker 2: So I've seen all down. Like there's some rappers.
20:20
Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys are good, but what I want
20:22
Speaker 1: to listen to that for eight hours straight?
20:24
Speaker 3: No exactly, And I think that that's what it boils
20:28
Speaker 3: down to with like I don't know, man, like I
20:31
Speaker 3: just feel like nobody's not nobody. But like, if you're
20:35
Speaker 3: riding around listening to docs bro, get some help, bro, Bro.
20:43
Speaker 1: That is quite the statement, bro, but not for like
20:46
Speaker 1: up for sure, Like if that's like you're playing five
20:48
Speaker 1: dack songs in a row, you might be depressed and
20:52
Speaker 1: you should definitely not I'm not even being fun. You're
20:54
Speaker 1: definitely just to reach out to someone who cares. You know,
20:56
Speaker 1: playing this music is not gonna help you.
20:58
Speaker 2: Yo.
20:59
Speaker 3: Well I was I know, I was telling you about
21:01
Speaker 3: this earlier and you actually peeped it too. I feel
21:04
Speaker 3: like this part does not get talked about enough. We're
21:07
Speaker 3: talking about this video doog so Pete. I mean, I
21:10
Speaker 3: know you already know, but just just to watch it
21:13
Speaker 3: one more time. The Vince Carter Olympic dunk steal yam
21:17
Speaker 3: over the seventh footed dog insane, right, But Bro, when
21:21
Speaker 3: he turns around and throws the celebratory punch in the air,
21:28
Speaker 3: he almost took Kevin Garnett's life.
21:31
Speaker 2: Dog. I've seen I've seen people die at that point, Like.
21:35
Speaker 3: No bullshit, Dog. That clip always makes me think of
21:39
Speaker 3: like how crazy life is, dog, because that literally could
21:43
Speaker 3: have been the end of both of their careers, Vince
21:45
Speaker 3: Carter for doing the punch and Kevin Gartnet for going
21:49
Speaker 3: into a coma because he almost got his lights taken
21:53
Speaker 3: from him.
21:54
Speaker 2: They would have banned from basketball for killing Kevin.
21:56
Speaker 3: I feel like if he would have did something severe
21:58
Speaker 3: to him just because of what happened, they would have
22:01
Speaker 3: been like nah, we got to do something of you.
22:03
Speaker 3: But Dog, Like, if you watch that back, I'm telling you,
22:06
Speaker 3: we're gonna have it in the in the in the
22:08
Speaker 3: in this video.
22:08
Speaker 2: Bro.
22:09
Speaker 3: But you look at that in slow motion, Dog, and
22:11
Speaker 3: he almost murdered Kevin Garnet. Dog, it was almost like
22:15
Speaker 3: the punch shocked through at Brad Miller. If you would
22:19
Speaker 3: have connected that, for sure, that might have been a
22:21
Speaker 3: whole different career for you know, the rest of the
22:24
Speaker 3: career for Shock.
22:25
Speaker 1: Maybe Kobe would add more or less championships. People would
22:28
Speaker 1: be hating on him even.
22:29
Speaker 2: Might never know.
22:29
Speaker 1: Bro, But Dog, that punch, Bro, I'm telling you that
22:35
Speaker 1: KG even said it or like somebody mentioned that before.
22:38
Speaker 1: He's like, Bro almost killed I think Vince Carter even
22:41
Speaker 1: mentioned that that he almost killed him.
22:43
Speaker 3: I know, but I just feel like nobody ever like
22:46
Speaker 3: talks about it, like the way you know what I'm.
22:48
Speaker 2: Saying, Like that ship is as epic as the dunk.
22:50
Speaker 3: That thing is almost a thirty for thirty by itself.
22:54
Speaker 3: Like they could do like a multi verse video showing
22:58
Speaker 3: like what would have happened if that punch would have landed.
23:01
Speaker 1: I mean, we could definitely just put this on like
23:03
Speaker 1: on Twitter on rock and we coult just edited with
23:06
Speaker 1: admitting at the end that was you know this make.
23:08
Speaker 3: A whole Oh yeah, like the new Like what if
23:11
Speaker 3: Vince would have connected.
23:12
Speaker 1: Well, would have happened to his life? Oh, Tracy would
23:15
Speaker 1: have had a long career some stupid now, but Lebron
23:19
Speaker 1: would have never stayed for twenty one years player. Now
23:22
Speaker 1: I'm serious because like I did, Lebron is only staying
23:24
Speaker 1: to beat like Vince Carter's record.
23:26
Speaker 3: Like, look, he already beat it though, and Vince wasn't
23:29
Speaker 3: even like a factor at the end.
23:31
Speaker 2: No, but he still stood for twenty one years. This
23:33
Speaker 2: man long, bro.
23:34
Speaker 3: Lebron's at twenty three. Bro, he already got him by
23:37
Speaker 3: two years for a purpose, bro, you know, not for nothing,
23:41
Speaker 3: Like why should he retire? Uh? First back, Bro, This
23:48
Speaker 3: is the funny thing about Lebron, right like that, I
23:51
Speaker 3: always think about everybody wants to play like they wouldn't
23:55
Speaker 3: do exactly what he's doing.
23:57
Speaker 2: Life is shoes, bro, that'st of my life.
23:59
Speaker 3: Oh he out his son into the NBA. Dog, if
24:03
Speaker 3: you could get your son into the NBA, millions of
24:06
Speaker 3: dollars you think you think if I could get my
24:10
Speaker 3: son into the NBA on my team, I'm gonna be
24:13
Speaker 3: like for the integrity of nah, Bro, it's happening asap
24:19
Speaker 3: dog like, and same thing with yo. He's still skilled enough.
24:23
Speaker 3: Nice if he plays for twenty five years in the NBA, Bro,
24:28
Speaker 3: why not, dog, you would do it until your legs
24:30
Speaker 3: fall off if you could.
24:31
Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't suck. That's on difference that he doesn't
24:34
Speaker 2: suck at basketball.
24:35
Speaker 3: He could give like another two three years as like
24:37
Speaker 3: a very solid end of the bench type player. If
24:41
Speaker 3: he wants to take like a reduced role, he might
24:44
Speaker 3: really could like go like another four or five years.
24:47
Speaker 2: Bro, if you wanted to play like how Russell Westbrook
24:50
Speaker 2: plays like right.
24:51
Speaker 3: Now, no, not chill. That's disrespectful though disrespectful.
24:55
Speaker 1: But Russell's have one of those Enig twilight where he
24:58
Speaker 1: hoops like every two games like yeah, he's back, and
25:00
Speaker 1: then it goes to zero for twenty.
25:06
Speaker 3: Westbrook is like. Westbrook is like, I'm not gonna use
25:12
Speaker 3: that analogy.
25:14
Speaker 2: Say it, Bro, we can clip it.
25:15
Speaker 3: Westbrook is like like if he was like an abusive
25:18
Speaker 3: big brother. But I just still defending him no matter what.
25:21
Speaker 3: I have no reason to defend him like I have
25:24
Speaker 3: no I have no facts to back up anything I say.
25:28
Speaker 3: I have no specific like things I can point to
25:31
Speaker 3: and say, like don't talk about him this way because
25:34
Speaker 3: this But it's like I'm just I'm watching him, bro,
25:38
Speaker 3: Like I can't. I can't argue with what you're telling
25:43
Speaker 3: me about him. Bro, I get it, But are you
25:45
Speaker 3: watching this man play? Like are you watching it play?
25:49
Speaker 3: Because he's hooping out there? Like that's all I can say.
25:51
Speaker 2: Great, he's great.
25:52
Speaker 1: But I'm saying Lebron and his career playing like how
25:56
Speaker 1: he's playing right now for like five six years for sure,
25:59
Speaker 1: you have to go to brought Is right now.
26:01
Speaker 3: No, bro, because Westbrook is still athletic as hell. Like
26:04
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, Like like we saying maybe
26:08
Speaker 3: like stat wise.
26:10
Speaker 2: But like.
26:11
Speaker 3: It's a different tent, it's a different tend you feel
26:14
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
26:15
Speaker 2: It's definitely like a lot a lot harder for him
26:17
Speaker 2: to get like like.
26:20
Speaker 3: Talking about Westbrook like he was like late career James
26:23
Speaker 3: Jones or something, you know what I mean?
26:24
Speaker 1: Like for sure, he's more like it's more like Michael
26:27
Speaker 1: Carter Williams and his prime right now.
26:30
Speaker 3: Yo, you know what's something I randomly seen that made
26:34
Speaker 3: me start thinking the other day, right, They was like, yo,
26:39
Speaker 3: was Clyde Drexler really about that?
26:42
Speaker 2: Was he really like that?
26:44
Speaker 3: He got this whole Clyde the Glyde and Clyde Drexel highlights.
26:47
Speaker 3: He's he was the same as Jordan and Da Da
26:49
Speaker 3: Da da Dog. Ain't win a damn thing, okay, right,
26:53
Speaker 3: a damn thing ever, right, nothing, not even almost not
27:01
Speaker 3: even he ain't smelling, bro, he said, hey, sniffet, he
27:04
Speaker 3: ain't smell it. And he was on that failed.
27:09
Speaker 2: The Big three.
27:11
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like four.
27:13
Speaker 2: Big four, Bro, it was a keem. It was a keem.
27:16
Speaker 2: Scottie Barkley and Dream, the Big Chore, the big board,
27:21
Speaker 2: the big the old Lord.
27:24
Speaker 3: Lord, Old Lord you and Timmy's West.
27:26
Speaker 2: Bro, you in Big Tim's West not a little but yo, no, no,
27:31
Speaker 2: I like that.
27:31
Speaker 3: Now they'd be giving Timmy the props, bro, Bro.
27:34
Speaker 1: I mean someone this posted that, oh they said that
27:37
Speaker 1: Victor is the best draft pick in the last thirty years,
27:40
Speaker 1: and that someone was like, he's not even better than
27:42
Speaker 1: Tim Duggan on the spur.
27:43
Speaker 3: You can't even like romanticize it just because Tim gave
27:49
Speaker 3: you five rings, bro, And like until he gives you
27:52
Speaker 3: five rings. If brings five rings with the hype that
27:57
Speaker 3: he had, yeah, I'll give it to you. He's better
27:59
Speaker 3: than Yeah, I don't think it's happening. I don't think
28:04
Speaker 3: it's happening. And that's kind of like even like with
28:08
Speaker 3: the Lebron thing, like that's the thing Timmy had that
28:11
Speaker 3: maybe Lebron not Maybe I don't. I mean obviously maybe
28:14
Speaker 3: because I'm just guessing, but I don't think Lebron has
28:18
Speaker 3: a thing Timmy had where it's like, yo, I can
28:20
Speaker 3: better suit this team this way, I don't need to
28:23
Speaker 3: be the center of attention and we can still get
28:24
Speaker 3: these rings. Yeah, yet because because Lebron, like it's like
28:30
Speaker 3: he with a.
28:32
Speaker 2: Point guard, though he has to play with a point
28:33
Speaker 2: guard for that to be a factor.
28:35
Speaker 3: But he still plays in a way where like he
28:37
Speaker 3: gravitates the game to him, you know what I'm saying,
28:40
Speaker 3: Like he's not like a.
28:41
Speaker 1: Touch and goal Like, notice the Lakers are playing worse
28:44
Speaker 1: with all all three of them.
28:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's brouh and not for nothing. The uncomfortable
28:49
Speaker 3: truth has just been like that with him for a
28:51
Speaker 3: long time, like these last like five years, bro, Like.
28:54
Speaker 1: Maybe it's time to trade him to the Warriors or
28:56
Speaker 1: the Celtics or something.
28:59
Speaker 2: Oh lord, I would hate this.
29:00
Speaker 1: I woulda hate to see him on the Celtics for
29:03
Speaker 1: three years.
29:05
Speaker 3: No, no, no, But you think if Lebron went to Yo,
29:13
Speaker 3: Lebron went to the Celtics and they didn't give nobody up,
29:15
Speaker 3: just Lebron went over there on a veteran minimum. You
29:18
Speaker 3: think he's Nah, bro, he I think I think that
29:22
Speaker 3: team does worse.
29:22
Speaker 2: I would hate to see it.
29:23
Speaker 3: I think that team does worse.
29:25
Speaker 2: You think they do better for him? He could be
29:28
Speaker 2: like so with the issue they.
29:31
Speaker 3: Already have between Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum, Nah bro,
29:36
Speaker 3: he'll make it worse.
29:42
Speaker 2: Jaylen Brown is out here like hooping, like he's sick
29:46
Speaker 2: of it.
29:46
Speaker 3: And he's out here like fool chested, like I love
29:50
Speaker 3: this place without Jason Tatum.
29:52
Speaker 2: Oh my shot.
29:54
Speaker 3: Selection Hey guys, let's do this again. We're still He's
30:00
Speaker 3: at the top of the mountain, like, Wow, all this
30:03
Speaker 3: without Jason Tatum, We're really great.
30:06
Speaker 2: I can't wait till he gets back. Bro.
30:08
Speaker 3: He is not trying to like cool this thing off,
30:12
Speaker 3: you know, he's trying to make it a duel. The
30:14
Speaker 3: first day that Tatum's back in practice, like if.
30:16
Speaker 4: He don't play good, and the thing is like, can
30:21
Speaker 4: you blame him because he's been he's been the real
30:25
Speaker 4: hooping and him, if we're being real, he's been the
30:29
Speaker 4: real hooper the.
30:29
Speaker 2: Whole time, the most consistent one.
30:31
Speaker 3: For sure, Tatum is the nicer one for the league.
30:34
Speaker 2: He's the higher he's the higher peak.
30:37
Speaker 3: And Tatum is not that. Tatum is not a dog.
30:40
Speaker 3: But there's just certain players.
30:42
Speaker 2: Bro that thriving exactly.
30:46
Speaker 3: Jayon Browns bro finals p Bro, I mean fine Eastern
30:50
Speaker 3: Conference and finals and.
30:51
Speaker 2: Then the year that they lost to the worst. He's
30:54
Speaker 2: the only one who played good yep.
30:56
Speaker 3: And he was the most suspect one supposedly with his
30:59
Speaker 3: left and his dribbling, and was any of that a
31:02
Speaker 3: factor in the playoffs?
31:03
Speaker 2: Not at all. Bro. He's a hooper, He's a crunch time.
31:06
Speaker 2: Like I said, I would hate for them to tray
31:08
Speaker 2: hate him. I would hate for that to happen. Oh,
31:14
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves and Lebron for Tato, that's pretty fair. I
31:19
Speaker 2: wonna lie that.
31:20
Speaker 3: That would be insane. They would never deal with each
31:23
Speaker 3: other like that though, Nah, Hell I mean maybe now
31:25
Speaker 3: because that was not the families.
31:26
Speaker 2: No more like it used to be, like the Jimmy Busses. Fine,
31:29
Speaker 2: said Jimmy Bush. Jenny Buss is finally, yes, out of there.
31:33
Speaker 3: She's just like, uh like she's I think she's still
31:36
Speaker 3: involved in the operations, but like a minority owner.
31:38
Speaker 1: Now probably we're not gonna get this clip, but she's
31:42
Speaker 1: got done getting the fun by the players too.
31:45
Speaker 3: Damn all right, so we done.
31:49
Speaker 2: That's all. We're not going to Stable Center. I had fun.
31:53
Speaker 2: Oh thanks for having me, Bro,