Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Feminist Movie Friday: Strong Girl Bong-soon
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha.
- 0:06Speaker 2: I welcome with Steffon. Never told you a protection of
- 0:08Speaker 2: iHeart radio.
- 0:18Speaker 1: And I I say, any are too scared to try it? Yeah,
- 0:25Speaker 1: So welcome to another edition of Feminist Movie Friday, where
- 0:30Speaker 1: we kind of abuse that term and just watch things
- 0:36Speaker 1: on the televisions and call it that. That's how I'm
- 0:40Speaker 1: gonna explain this. Yeah, And obviously, if you've been listening,
- 0:44Speaker 1: you may already know that I have dove head first
- 0:49Speaker 1: in the world of K dramas. I'm literally that's all
- 0:54Speaker 1: I've been watching. I think, outside of when we watch
- 0:57Speaker 1: movies for our own episodes for the Feminist Movie Fridays,
- 1:03Speaker 1: it's all been K drama. It's just been K dramas.
- 1:06Speaker 1: And what I'm talking about is Korean dramas and or sitcoms,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and our actions shows a lot of them. And because
- 1:13Speaker 1: I am who I am, I'm trying to ring Annie
- 1:15Speaker 1: into it kind of like a hostage. You're welcome.
- 1:19Speaker 2: It's been fun, you know.
- 1:22Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's fair After all the
- 1:24Speaker 3: Star Wars I've made you watch, I think it's fair game.
- 1:26Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, because we've watched the same
- 1:29Speaker 1: things repeatedly for yours, but I'm giving you new episodes
- 1:35Speaker 1: that are all like an hour and fifteen minutes long
- 1:37Speaker 1: and usually sixteen to twenty episodes, so I feel like
- 1:40Speaker 1: it's probably uneven at this point. I don't know. I
- 1:43Speaker 1: don't know, but yes, So for this feminist movie, feminist
- 1:48Speaker 1: showing of the month, we are doing Strong Woman bon
- 1:53Speaker 1: soon or it's sometimes called strong Girl, so the Korean pronunciation.
- 1:57Speaker 1: And I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to really get
- 1:59Speaker 1: into my culture. Is him shun yo ja dobunksen him
- 2:04Speaker 1: shun yojab dobunksen. I did It, I Didn't which originally
- 2:08Speaker 1: aired in twenty seventeen and has been held as one
- 2:11Speaker 1: of the all time favorites by many around the world
- 2:16Speaker 1: and apparently Annie, there is a follow up coming soon
- 2:21Speaker 1: with the cameo of the original lead couple that we
- 2:25Speaker 1: now love since you watched it, so let me get
- 2:29Speaker 1: a review from you. How did you feel about this show?
- 2:31Speaker 2: It was fun.
- 2:34Speaker 3: So just like some background listeners, essentially because as we've discussed,
- 2:40Speaker 3: I had my refrigerator stuff and the Samantha had her
- 2:43Speaker 3: more job related religious trauma. I need to break stuff.
- 2:50Speaker 3: We were discussing about doing this about the K dramas,
- 2:54Speaker 3: and it kind of came up a little last minute.
- 2:57Speaker 3: So I did watch the tire sixteen episodes in two days,
- 3:04Speaker 3: I think, and it was very heavy loaded on the
- 3:07Speaker 3: second day. But no, I really enjoyed it. I thought
- 3:11Speaker 3: it was fun. I didn't expect because it has sort
- 3:15Speaker 3: of a like superhero element and then it's got like
- 3:17Speaker 3: a serial killer Elliott, so it had a lot of
- 3:22Speaker 3: things going on that I was like, oh, okay, yeah, okay,
- 3:27Speaker 3: and then it was of course, which I know we'll
- 3:29Speaker 3: talk about. It had a lot of a lot of
- 3:32Speaker 3: tropes that were very funny of like, you know, just
- 3:36Speaker 3: the over the top gas being and the love triangle
- 3:43Speaker 3: and just all of these characters that were very fun
- 3:47Speaker 3: to get to know and to watch.
- 3:49Speaker 2: So yeah, I had a good time.
- 3:50Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. It was not what I expected, but
- 3:52Speaker 3: I really liked it.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Okay, well, were you expecting out of curiosity?
- 3:56Speaker 3: Well, you have kind of just given me the title,
- 3:58Speaker 3: So I was of thinking that it was going to
- 4:01Speaker 3: be more about I don't know, about like a woman
- 4:05Speaker 3: trying to uh to make it in the office world
- 4:11Speaker 3: and has not taking any from any dudes.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I don't know you emotional characteristics.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I was expecting the like actual like Superhero.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Yes, that's even better annoying that you're going to that
- 4:32Speaker 1: you watched the right one on this one.
- 4:34Speaker 2: That's true, Well I double check. I was like, look,
- 4:38Speaker 2: I do not need another misapp.
- 4:41Speaker 3: If I'm gonna watch sixteen episodes of something, you need
- 4:45Speaker 3: to make sure that it's the right Yes.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So there were several that we were talking about doing.
- 4:50Speaker 1: This is one because I thought it was an interesting
- 4:53Speaker 1: because it was interestingly new, and people have been hailing
- 4:56Speaker 1: it as a feminist look, which is kind of funny
- 4:59Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, I don't know if it's truly filminous,
- 5:02Speaker 1: but I get what they're trying to do, as well
- 5:05Speaker 1: as the fact that the others were newer, And I
- 5:08Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if she like, we don't
- 5:10Speaker 1: want to spoil it for those who do love Kjramas,
- 5:12Speaker 1: and if you do, shout it out to me, it's
- 5:14Speaker 1: like one of the most alchemy of souls, which I
- 5:16Speaker 1: really really liked. And then I was like, wait, it
- 5:18Speaker 1: just came out this year last year, not too long ago,
- 5:21Speaker 1: so I don't want to ruin it for everyone. But
- 5:24Speaker 1: if you like it, tell me because I'm waking it.
- 5:27Speaker 1: So in this grab bag of sixteen episodes slash probably
- 5:32Speaker 1: what eighteen hours worth of content, I'm just going to
- 5:35Speaker 1: throw out the plot the best I can. Again, my
- 5:38Speaker 1: Korean's very sloppy, so sorry in advance. I'm trying. I'm
- 5:42Speaker 1: trying to get to my culture. It's hard. So we
- 5:46Speaker 1: have the main character Do Bonksen, who's played by Korean
- 5:50Speaker 1: star and she is a huge star Park Boyong, who
- 5:54Speaker 1: is a woman with superhuman strength which is given to
- 5:58Speaker 1: all the women of the Dough family. The gift does
- 6:01Speaker 1: have his limits. If a woman hurts someone or abuses
- 6:05Speaker 1: it like her mother did, then they lose that gift.
- 6:09Speaker 1: And for her, she's tried to control and hide her
- 6:13Speaker 1: powers because she's trying to look fragile and weak to
- 6:18Speaker 1: be loved. But that's a whole different that's coming later.
- 6:21Speaker 1: So then we also have the male lead on Mignyuk,
- 6:25Speaker 1: which is played by k Pop idol Park Kyung Slick,
- 6:28Speaker 1: who was also in if you've ever watched it the
- 6:31Speaker 1: airs on Netflix is called The Inheritors with Lehmanhoe who
- 6:35Speaker 1: is a delight and that whole show is very problematic.
- 6:39Speaker 1: But I didn't make you watch it because I was like,
- 6:41Speaker 1: this is too much, it's soy anyway, But yes, he
- 6:44Speaker 1: is at the male lead here, who is a rich
- 6:47Speaker 1: boy who owns a gaming company and is being threatened
- 6:51Speaker 1: by an anonymous offender that we find out later. And
- 6:56Speaker 1: then we always have a second lead, and this one
- 6:59Speaker 1: is the character is in played by the now canceled
- 7:05Speaker 1: Chi Sue, who is an upstanding rookie cop. And if
- 7:09Speaker 1: you want to know why he's canceled, he was a bully.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Apparent he's been accused of being a bully in school,
- 7:14Speaker 1: as well as some sexual harassment allegations. The sexual harassment
- 7:17Speaker 1: allegations were dismissed, but apparently he did admit to being
- 7:20Speaker 1: a bully, so he's canceled. He literally got dropped by
- 7:23Speaker 1: his agency. That's how seriously take that. But of course
- 7:29Speaker 1: is the high school love of Bonsou's life, but he
- 7:33Speaker 1: always seems to be ignoring her and is currently dating
- 7:36Speaker 1: a musician who is played by Sharina, who is in
- 7:42Speaker 1: several of the kaijuon was that I've been watching and
- 7:45Speaker 1: the ones that suggested to you, so like, oh damn,
- 7:48Speaker 1: she's big and she's really young. I didn't know how
- 7:50Speaker 1: young she was. But she plays the character Hiji, who
- 7:54Speaker 1: is the love interest of goop Do but also the
- 7:58Speaker 1: love interest of Bankstuen twin brother. So many triangles. We
- 8:02Speaker 1: have so many triangles, and the brother is a doctor,
- 8:07Speaker 1: so he is kind of more respected, and Bong Shun
- 8:10Speaker 1: is played as if she is not very smart, kind
- 8:13Speaker 1: of lazy, falls asleep in class, can't speak the English
- 8:17Speaker 1: phrases like everybody knows apparently, and that's a big downfall.
- 8:21Speaker 1: I don't know, that was oddny whatever. Yes, so we
- 8:24Speaker 1: have several triangles, maybe a square when it comes to
- 8:28Speaker 1: the love interests all of that. But yes, we have
- 8:33Speaker 1: this whole delightful back and forth between the love triangle,
- 8:37Speaker 1: love squares, I don't know, circles. Is it a circle
- 8:41Speaker 1: at this point? Maybe by these delightful people. Monsoon gets
- 8:45Speaker 1: hired as a bodyguard after I mean Huk witnesses her
- 8:50Speaker 1: fighting off a whole gangster, which is another subplot, which
- 8:55Speaker 1: is the comic relief. When he was bullying a driver
- 8:58Speaker 1: and all these kids on the bus and they is she,
- 9:02Speaker 1: you know, after trying to just say please don't do this,
- 9:04Speaker 1: she has to beat him up. He witnesses this asks
- 9:07Speaker 1: her to be a bodyguard. After they go to the
- 9:09Speaker 1: police and they all lie about the fact that she
- 9:11Speaker 1: saved everybody, you know, the usual. She goes home all
- 9:17Speaker 1: sad about do not loving her as per usual, and
- 9:22Speaker 1: then we come back and she does go to work
- 9:24Speaker 1: for Mignuk and she is his bodyguard, and he, obviously
- 9:29Speaker 1: at the very beginning, is finding her very attractive, so adorable,
- 9:33Speaker 1: keeps calling her cute and sexy, very inappropriate if you
- 9:36Speaker 1: really think about how this boss thing is working. He
- 9:39Speaker 1: even has her act as his fiance so he could
- 9:42Speaker 1: fight off rumors that he is gay. That seems to
- 9:45Speaker 1: be a whole thing in itself. We have goop Doo
- 9:48Speaker 1: going in as a police officer and something has happened.
- 9:52Speaker 1: What is it? It's the subplot. It's the subplot that
- 9:54Speaker 1: no one ever actually expects and the kind of newer
- 9:58Speaker 1: to these type of genres in which women are being
- 10:02Speaker 1: kidnapped by a really, really really awful evil guy. Like
- 10:06Speaker 1: I actually had to tell you, hey, you might want
- 10:08Speaker 1: to skip this. It could be triggering because it's fairly
- 10:12Speaker 1: serious for such a lighthearted series.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. It was a different.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Tonal shift where you're like, oh.
- 10:23Speaker 3: It kind of like, you know, cartoony sounds, love Triangle
- 10:29Speaker 3: square happening, girl beating up gangsters. And then one of
- 10:34Speaker 3: one of my favorite subplots is just them being in
- 10:36Speaker 3: the hospital for like the entire thing and just like
- 10:40Speaker 3: living in fear that she'll show up again. And then
- 10:43Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's like.
- 10:44Speaker 2: And then he's kidding women.
- 10:47Speaker 1: And he's i mean triggered warning y'all, he's beating them
- 10:50Speaker 1: and they do not hold back on the sounds. At
- 10:53Speaker 1: the very least, it's pretty intense. But yeah, So we
- 10:56Speaker 1: have this whole subplot that there's a serial kidnapper in
- 10:59Speaker 1: her neighborhood, and they kind of go on about and
- 11:02Speaker 1: God is very involved in trying to solve this case.
- 11:05Speaker 1: He's a little smarket who comes in not you know,
- 11:09Speaker 1: not taking any shit. Although I have to say they
- 11:11Speaker 1: took a long time to figure this out, even though
- 11:14Speaker 1: they were right there a long time. I guess this
- 11:17Speaker 1: is how you extend the series whatever. So we have
- 11:20Speaker 1: these both these plots happening. At one point. Longsoon does
- 11:24Speaker 1: get involved in the subplot because her friend, her best friend,
- 11:27Speaker 1: who comes to see her and hangs out with her,
- 11:29Speaker 1: gets attacked by this man and is targeted by this kidnapper.
- 11:32Speaker 1: She goes and saves her, but she doesn't hurt him
- 11:36Speaker 1: or tie him up. She just lets him go. I
- 11:38Speaker 1: have so many thoughts of like, why would you do this?
- 11:41Speaker 1: Why would you do this? So he runs away in fear.
- 11:44Speaker 1: But then she begins to be a target for him
- 11:49Speaker 1: as well as goop Do because he goop Do keeps
- 11:51Speaker 1: coming around his little workplace and threatening him. So we
- 11:53Speaker 1: have all these things, so she becomes a target. We
- 11:57Speaker 1: still see her her love interest on Mignyuk coming in
- 12:03Speaker 1: trying to figure out who's blackmailing him. He's figuring it out.
- 12:06Speaker 1: He's also trying to train her so she could be
- 12:08Speaker 1: a superhero, and it's all this, you know, touching, such
- 12:12Speaker 1: cute k drama touching, which is barely touching. So it's
- 12:15Speaker 1: like they shoulders. Yeah, all that happening. At the same time,
- 12:19Speaker 1: they are very much infantilizing her, pretending like she's a child.
- 12:24Speaker 1: He sets up a desk with this ridiculous laptop and
- 12:27Speaker 1: a screen in his office because he doesn't want her
- 12:29Speaker 1: to leave that office. So many other things, but yes,
- 12:33Speaker 1: eventually he solves that mystery turns out to be the
- 12:35Speaker 1: brother that he liked that has always protected him. He's heartbroken,
- 12:39Speaker 1: but they move past it. Now they're onto this kidnapper.
- 12:43Speaker 1: At the same time, the bunch of gangsters that we
- 12:45Speaker 1: talked about, who is the comic relief, keeps trying to
- 12:47Speaker 1: come after Longsoon because they are so hurt that they
- 12:51Speaker 1: are their reputation has been tarnished, and sues a big
- 12:54Speaker 1: giant fight seen in the warehouse, hilariously done. And then
- 13:00Speaker 1: we find out Hutu, who has never known about her strength,
- 13:02Speaker 1: finds out how strong she is because she's always faked it,
- 13:05Speaker 1: even faking like she couldn't open the jar of jelly Yeah,
- 13:09Speaker 1: which was hilarious in itself. Again, we have several drunk scenes.
- 13:14Speaker 1: If you know anything about Korean drama, you gotta have
- 13:16Speaker 1: those drunk scenes. You gotta have them. I also appreciate
- 13:20Speaker 1: that they always put makeup on to show that Asian flush,
- 13:23Speaker 1: even though it's cuter on them than it is me,
- 13:26Speaker 1: in which I are right red and it looks very bloated.
- 13:30Speaker 1: And so we go on too. Back to the kidnapping plot.
- 13:34Speaker 1: He is targeting her friend again. He finally captures her
- 13:39Speaker 1: he's trying to hide it, and then Soon tells Bomsoon
- 13:41Speaker 1: come get her, essentially lays a trap for her, finds
- 13:44Speaker 1: out that she can lose her strength. Yeah if she
- 13:47Speaker 1: does something bad and accidentally hurts a person, which I
- 13:49Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't look like if she doesn't know
- 13:53Speaker 1: and she's not purposely trying to hurt someone, why would
- 13:55Speaker 1: that be a thing.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Right, it's not deliberate, right, Like, I don't get that.
- 14:00Speaker 1: But okay, because she's accidentally hurt a lot of people.
- 14:03Speaker 1: M h So anyway, again I digress. But so she
- 14:08Speaker 1: goes to rescue the friend, accidentally hurts an innocent person.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Her strength is taken away, but find her two men
- 14:15Speaker 1: in the triangle come and rescue her in which you know,
- 14:20Speaker 1: the hugging scene where min Yuk comes through is like,
- 14:24Speaker 1: you know, no come back and you think she's dead,
- 14:27Speaker 1: but she's not dead. She's just yeah, classed out classic,
- 14:32Speaker 1: all the classics. In between all of this, Yes, and
- 14:35Speaker 1: we find out that du finally figures out he's in
- 14:37Speaker 1: love with her and is trying to compete with men
- 14:40Speaker 1: Huck Longsoon Soon finds out that she's in love with
- 14:44Speaker 1: the rich boy Minhuck and she's like, oh yeah, he's
- 14:47Speaker 1: gonna give me a job, and he does because what
- 14:49Speaker 1: her dream was is to develop her own game based
- 14:52Speaker 1: on herself. Yeah, and so she's finally made it. He's
- 14:56Speaker 1: kind of cats keeps dangling it cruel, but supposedly that's
- 15:01Speaker 1: what she's doing. We come back, we have an event
- 15:05Speaker 1: which kidnapper runs away. He's being chased and you think
- 15:07Speaker 1: he's dead, but no, he's not dead. He comes out
- 15:09Speaker 1: from the lake and he's alive. Yay not yay boo boo,
- 15:14Speaker 1: I'm met boo, I'm sorry hello. And then he now
- 15:18Speaker 1: targets both all of them because he's like, it's all
- 15:21Speaker 1: they're faults that I am here and I can't get away,
- 15:24Speaker 1: So he targets all of them, goes to the main
- 15:26Speaker 1: game main company that Bonksoon and minhok Own I guess
- 15:32Speaker 1: doesn't own it, but she works there, goes and then
- 15:34Speaker 1: sets up this whole trap, uh, and then puts the
- 15:37Speaker 1: straps of bomb on Bonksoon. Of course why not? And
- 15:41Speaker 1: you know, we have that lovely scene between Minnehokan and
- 15:45Speaker 1: hers all crying about don't ve.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Bleeve go away.
- 15:49Speaker 1: He's like, I'll never leave you I'm gonna stay here
- 15:51Speaker 1: with you, YadA, YadA, YadA, because she wants to save him.
- 15:55Speaker 1: She gets her strength back, throws the dynamite in the air.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Push fireworks. Oh yeah, no, it comes to firewars somehow.
- 16:03Speaker 1: That day becomes fireworks Korean dramas. We love it. They embrace,
- 16:09Speaker 1: they come together, they spend the night. He's like, I
- 16:11Speaker 1: want you to love me. She's like, I love you,
- 16:13Speaker 1: I see you. All these cute little things, I will say,
- 16:16Speaker 1: parking sick. He does the best cute sea smile when
- 16:19Speaker 1: he's like in love with her. He really is very
- 16:22Speaker 1: convincing about how how much he adores her. It is
- 16:25Speaker 1: very cute. They're very young, but they are very cute.
- 16:29Speaker 1: They're not They're not young to you, they're young to me.
- 16:31Speaker 1: So we go on and again. The dude villain runs
- 16:35Speaker 1: away somehow and escapes and is trying to leave the country,
- 16:38Speaker 1: and everybody comes together to find this dude. They set
- 16:41Speaker 1: up this whole trap. He's bought a sniper gun to
- 16:44Speaker 1: kill Monsoon, all these things. They set up a whole
- 16:47Speaker 1: trap and then they catch him and they entrap him
- 16:51Speaker 1: in a wooden prison type of thing, Like I feel
- 16:55Speaker 1: like that would be easily movable. It's just I would
- 16:58Speaker 1: I'm very confused. This dude like okay, but whatever. So
- 17:02Speaker 1: he gets got and when they ask him why he
- 17:04Speaker 1: did it, he's like, it's fun. Have you ever had
- 17:06Speaker 1: a woman beg all these things? Really gross? Really really gross.
- 17:10Speaker 1: We see that Demonsouon has actually rescued all of the
- 17:13Speaker 1: women who have been imprisoned and have been kidnapped, including
- 17:16Speaker 1: her best friend as we said, and they all I
- 17:22Speaker 1: guess she still keeps her secret because no one believes
- 17:25Speaker 1: the women who were like this woman rescued us whatever whatnot.
- 17:28Speaker 1: And many of them are all traumatized. So that's realistic.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I'll give him that. They get they that's realistic. And
- 17:36Speaker 1: as we continue, we see the everything going happily ever after,
- 17:40Speaker 1: except the izdu does not get love. He gets very sad.
- 17:44Speaker 1: He does cry because he can't give the a necklace
- 17:47Speaker 1: he wanted. We also see Minhok like put trackers on her,
- 17:53Speaker 1: which I thought was odd as well, but you know what,
- 17:55Speaker 1: whatever he proposes, they get married. The whole wedding seeing
- 18:00Speaker 1: is quite funny. There's comic relief throughout. There's the whole staff,
- 18:04Speaker 1: there's the twins of course the mother and the father,
- 18:06Speaker 1: and I didn't even talk about the five of the
- 18:08Speaker 1: mother and father are a complete train wreck, but they're
- 18:11Speaker 1: a complete train wreck. And then she goes on to
- 18:13Speaker 1: work at a company, realizing that's not what she wants
- 18:16Speaker 1: to do after she develops her own game and that
- 18:19Speaker 1: her duty is to save people. So she goes back
- 18:21Speaker 1: to being an intern. I guess just to hang out
- 18:25Speaker 1: with her now husband, I don't know, So that's what happens.
- 18:28Speaker 1: And then they ended up having two kids, twins who
- 18:31Speaker 1: are all girls, and they end up accidentally beating up
- 18:33Speaker 1: everyone because they are super strong the end.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Yes, which I don't know that you've specified, but she
- 18:41Speaker 3: is a twin her brother.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
- 18:57Speaker 3: Also, I just want to add in another subplot because
- 18:59Speaker 3: there are lot of some plants.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:02Speaker 3: Is that like she threatened the kids?
- 19:06Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the kids.
- 19:08Speaker 3: She threatened these kids who were like, I don't know,
- 19:11Speaker 3: be a Jersey Yeah, and then she uh is like,
- 19:15Speaker 3: go pick up trash and so they kind of become
- 19:17Speaker 3: like a trash brigrade and like her biggest fans.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Yes, they are fans. They had a whole sight dedicated
- 19:24Speaker 1: to her, Yes, which is quite funny. And she calls
- 19:27Speaker 1: my kids. Yes, but she looks younger than all of them, yes, h.
- 19:32Speaker 2: Especially like the leader guy. I don't know.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Some of them look pretty im but that guy, and
- 19:36Speaker 3: maybe he is younger, but to me, he looked a
- 19:38Speaker 3: bit older.
- 19:39Speaker 1: She is in her thirties now, I think so, like
- 19:42Speaker 1: then she was approaching the late twenties early thirties. I
- 19:46Speaker 1: I'm telling you what, when it comes to Korean stars,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you can never tell. I am always thoroughly confused by
- 19:54Speaker 1: what ages they are and truly believe they are like
- 19:58Speaker 1: twenty when they're actually thirty. The US is like that too,
- 20:01Speaker 1: but not as many actors are like that. There's a few.
- 20:04Speaker 1: But here in Korean dramas, I'm like, wow, Wow, you're yoh,
- 20:11Speaker 1: you're playing like you're twenty five, but you're actually thirty two,
- 20:16Speaker 1: but you look eighteen. I'm so confused by this, right,
- 20:19Speaker 1: But that's all of it. They even called the teenage
- 20:22Speaker 1: kids call her old like what, Yeah.
- 20:25Speaker 3: I would never.
- 20:27Speaker 2: Know, but that was a pretty big That was a thing.
- 20:33Speaker 3: And then there was like that construction company that was
- 20:35Speaker 3: like mostly in the hospital, a lot of it.
- 20:37Speaker 2: They had like a r yeah.
- 20:40Speaker 1: All gangsters with this one dude who is a pretty
- 20:44Speaker 1: big from him and the hnchman who always like losing
- 20:48Speaker 1: his teeth and ended up being one of the workers
- 20:50Speaker 1: at the software company or a gaming company. They're two
- 20:54Speaker 1: big comedians apparently in the South Korean acting world, and
- 20:59Speaker 1: like this is there forte and I was like, oh,
- 21:02Speaker 1: that makes sense, but that was the entirety of their
- 21:04Speaker 1: makeup is to be the clowns I guess of the show.
- 21:11Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, we have to go through the
- 21:12Speaker 1: K drama list so that you know every I think
- 21:15Speaker 1: almost every K drama I have watched has included the
- 21:19Speaker 1: cute tiny woman, and they don't most of the leaves
- 21:22Speaker 1: that I've seen for like comedies and romantic comedies like
- 21:26Speaker 1: these are cute. They are not gorgeously beautiful. They're the
- 21:30Speaker 1: cute ones which I found interesting. Lots of food, including takpoki,
- 21:35Speaker 1: which is very delicious and I was craving at the
- 21:37Speaker 1: entire time. A handsome trouble or the rich dude and
- 21:41Speaker 1: the poor girl every time, every day, every damn time.
- 21:45Speaker 1: The over eager, annoying mother that's always a trope. It
- 21:50Speaker 1: makes me really kind of sad. They have a scene
- 21:52Speaker 1: with bumper cars I've seen that in so many of them.
- 21:55Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, what is this? This is fascinating.
- 21:59Speaker 4: Okay, I don't know the aggressive pool is in every
- 22:06Speaker 4: I think it's gotten less and less and less, but
- 22:08Speaker 4: the whole like yanking the woman by the.
- 22:10Speaker 1: Arms is constant. Okay, it's constant. Like I'm like, wow,
- 22:17Speaker 1: the idols, as we talked about the main character here,
- 22:19Speaker 1: a main leading man was a K pop idol, we
- 22:22Speaker 1: always at least have one that I have found out
- 22:27Speaker 1: the usage of English as a way to establish a
- 22:30Speaker 1: higher class of education, which is interesting because that's kind
- 22:34Speaker 1: of that, like the verbiage, the phrases. They really look
- 22:38Speaker 1: down on people who can't mm hmm speak this. And
- 22:41Speaker 1: I've seen this in CA pop world too. It's like, wow,
- 22:44Speaker 1: that's really interesting. Lots of bullies. We have all the
- 22:47Speaker 1: bullies again, the abusive and then like specifically abusive bosses.
- 22:51Speaker 1: And if anybody is actually from South Korea, can you
- 22:54Speaker 1: tell me can supervisors kick their employees because I have
- 22:58Speaker 1: seen this a lot Yeah in the K dramas. I
- 23:01Speaker 1: am confused. I'm like, if that happened in that workplace,
- 23:04Speaker 1: that person would be fired and sued.
- 23:08Speaker 2: They definitely brought that up. A lot of like the
- 23:12Speaker 2: I will slap you, I will kick you.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I was like, whoacuseconstant, it's not just I'm like, wow,
- 23:17Speaker 1: what And the mothers. Mothers really like to smack people,
- 23:20Speaker 1: that's the whole thing. I think they've done well, and
- 23:24Speaker 1: like making sure that the men never slap women like
- 23:26Speaker 1: that's not a thing. But the aggressive poll is bad
- 23:28Speaker 1: enough to me that I'm like, what is what's happening again?
- 23:32Speaker 1: A lot of soji drinking drug scenes. That's the constant
- 23:37Speaker 1: and the fighting and you know, all the words. The
- 23:40Speaker 1: backwards hug. That's a whole thing in dramas that's supposed
- 23:44Speaker 1: to be really romantic apparently, and every time you see
- 23:46Speaker 1: them doing it, the women always look shocked and dismayed.
- 23:50Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, apparently it's really intimate, really intimate, just
- 23:56Speaker 1: so you know. And then of course product placement, product
- 23:59Speaker 1: place everywhere. We talked about how John Oliver talked about
- 24:02Speaker 1: Subway and that was all in Goblin or The Guardian
- 24:06Speaker 1: that you and I watched because I loved, but it
- 24:07Speaker 1: was the entire thing for this one. They are like
- 24:11Speaker 1: high end things like the chocolate place, yeah, was one
- 24:14Speaker 1: of them. The types of purses that were bought. Was
- 24:18Speaker 1: one of them. It was interesting, okay, And then the
- 24:21Speaker 1: cars were Volvos, right, yes, higher ends. The Goblin had
- 24:26Speaker 1: Maseratis as their vehicles.
- 24:29Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 24:29Speaker 1: I was like, what does that so? I didn't even know.
- 24:31Speaker 1: I can't recognize it. How little I know about cars
- 24:36Speaker 1: and how I guess high end cars fancy cars are that.
- 24:39Speaker 1: I'm like, huh, I don't know what that is. But yeah,
- 24:43Speaker 1: and this is the Volvos. All of them are Volvos,
- 24:47Speaker 1: so yeah, those are those are the concept. I'm sure
- 24:50Speaker 1: there's more that I have missed. The awkward kisses where
- 24:54Speaker 1: they just like the women always look shocked and turned around.
- 24:56Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my goodness. Yes, but yeah, So we
- 25:03Speaker 1: wanted to talk about some of the things because they
- 25:04Speaker 1: did flop the lot in this series. They wanted to
- 25:07Speaker 1: flip it on purpose, maybe talk about the fact that
- 25:09Speaker 1: they felt like this was more feminist and they were
- 25:11Speaker 1: pushing it forward, talking about issues like the Me Too movement.
- 25:15Speaker 1: There was a point in which a man was groping
- 25:18Speaker 1: a woman at the subway, which has been a complaint
- 25:20Speaker 1: that has happened within South Korean culture, and her breaking
- 25:23Speaker 1: his fingers essentially and walking away. That is a conversation,
- 25:28Speaker 1: like they made sure that they addressed it, and they
- 25:30Speaker 1: talked about the fact that the take back the Night
- 25:34Speaker 1: was brought up as well, and how that was a
- 25:36Speaker 1: big feminist movement, which was the point of the subplot
- 25:40Speaker 1: to talk about kind of the me too sexual harassment
- 25:43Speaker 1: abuse towards women in that culture. And I thought that
- 25:48Speaker 1: was interesting because with that they made sure that a
- 25:50Speaker 1: woman could protect her own which.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Was kind of that conversation, right, And they have that
- 25:56Speaker 3: whole scene to where this guy essentially bullying a woman,
- 26:01Speaker 3: but they had like a minor car accident and one
- 26:05Speaker 3: soon gets out of the car and it's like ah.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Da da and he kind of ignores her. And then
- 26:10Speaker 2: the rich guy gets out and he's like.
- 26:12Speaker 3: Ry and the car's like okay, listens to him and
- 26:16Speaker 3: she brings that up, like she chases him tas she
- 26:19Speaker 3: gets in the back of the car, makes him get
- 26:21Speaker 3: off the road, and was like, so you'll listen when
- 26:23Speaker 3: a guy says something and tells you and then you're
- 26:26Speaker 3: all polite, but when women are telling you something, then
- 26:29Speaker 3: you feel very comfortable like being very rude and being
- 26:33Speaker 3: cruel and all of these things, So they definitely addressed
- 26:37Speaker 3: stuff like that.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did. I think they also like the
- 26:41Speaker 1: back and forth with this is that whole fragile girl
- 26:45Speaker 1: bit infantilizing her a lot, as as the boss would
- 26:50Speaker 1: do when it came to her job, her work. He
- 26:53Speaker 1: was definitely patronizing because he kept saying she was cute,
- 26:57Speaker 1: the protecting from her friend, same thing, and then pretending
- 27:01Speaker 1: like she was fragile because she didn't feel like she
- 27:04Speaker 1: could attract him because he made that statement and he
- 27:07Speaker 1: said I always saw you. He's like, I would have
- 27:09Speaker 1: been fine out of you know, knowing who you are,
- 27:12Speaker 1: like noy, real you, but to me, you were fragile.
- 27:15Speaker 1: I was saying that to describe you because I wanted
- 27:18Speaker 1: you type of thing. And I'm like, right, it's so sad,
- 27:20Speaker 1: like there's so many things wrong with that moment.
- 27:23Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I mean I don't think at all
- 27:28Speaker 3: this is unique to this show, Like we see that
- 27:32Speaker 3: all over the place, but it is very like the
- 27:35Speaker 3: idea that the man is the protector and that's what
- 27:39Speaker 3: makes him romantic, and also like if he's not the protector,
- 27:43Speaker 3: then he feels feminine, right emasculine, like immasculine.
- 27:48Speaker 2: So I think that that has seeped into a.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Lot of our pop culture, and like a lot of
- 27:53Speaker 3: us have internalized those things, like I have found myself
- 27:56Speaker 3: writing things like that, even though I don't believe in
- 27:59Speaker 3: though because I think it should be that way, but
- 28:02Speaker 3: it is something we just see everywhere, right.
- 28:05Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it had the good. It was
- 28:07Speaker 1: two extremes, which was interesting and I could get that
- 28:10Speaker 1: as an actual thing. So for women who feel like
- 28:12Speaker 1: they're being told they're overbearing, they're they're too loud, they're
- 28:16Speaker 1: all too aggressive, you try to hide and shrink yourself
- 28:18Speaker 1: because you think that's the way it is, and that's
- 28:20Speaker 1: what she has done. And then she finally came to
- 28:22Speaker 1: the point of being like, Nope, that's not who I am.
- 28:24Speaker 1: This is who I am. Of course, we have the
- 28:27Speaker 1: love symmetries. There are so many things like happening here,
- 28:31Speaker 1: like the brother and the ex girlfriend and then they
- 28:34Speaker 1: break up, which was smart, like y'all can't have this relationship,
- 28:37Speaker 1: but it did make me sad my brother was finally happy,
- 28:40Speaker 1: but whatever, and then we have the wedding and then
- 28:44Speaker 1: the fact that still loves her and shows up for
- 28:47Speaker 1: the wedding and they still hate each other. That's kind
- 28:49Speaker 1: of funny in itself. And we kind of had a
- 28:52Speaker 1: love triangle with the parents too.
- 28:54Speaker 2: Oh he did.
- 28:56Speaker 5: Yeah, it was good, yes, because she wrote a really
- 29:04Speaker 5: cheesy book and he loved it, and the mother was
- 29:07Speaker 5: very jealous.
- 29:08Speaker 1: But she also really insulted him about like, look what
- 29:11Speaker 1: happened to me when I lost mind? I had to
- 29:13Speaker 1: marry him? Do you want this? And I'm like, oh God,
- 29:16Speaker 1: And he loves loves loves his daughter. That's the whole thing. Yes,
- 29:21Speaker 1: And then the conversation of superheroes, which is what she
- 29:23Speaker 1: wanted to be but couldn't figure out how to be.
- 29:26Speaker 1: And then finally by the end she accepted herself and
- 29:28Speaker 1: became that superhero, which Miniuk the Boss had always seen
- 29:34Speaker 1: her that way because of the opening credit scene which
- 29:36Speaker 1: I did not talk about, in which he is going
- 29:39Speaker 1: to see his mother's grave. The bus blows a tire,
- 29:44Speaker 1: goes out of all kinds of ways, and then comes
- 29:47Speaker 1: to a point where it looks like it's gonna go
- 29:48Speaker 1: over the edge after hitting a mother and daughter, and
- 29:50Speaker 1: she's able to stop it. He doesn't ever get to
- 29:53Speaker 1: see her face, but he knows he saw her and
- 29:55Speaker 1: then painted a portrait of her and then it turned
- 29:58Speaker 1: out to be her.
- 29:59Speaker 3: Right, So yeah, yeah, and it is quite a wild
- 30:03Speaker 3: opening scene, I must say, because that bus is just
- 30:06Speaker 3: swerve it all over.
- 30:07Speaker 1: Everybody everywhere, all the kids, all the pain pud balls,
- 30:10Speaker 1: the pain so many paint pud balls. Yeah. And then
- 30:28Speaker 1: of course again we've already been talking about the problematic
- 30:31Speaker 1: things that's happening in this because I can't ignore when
- 30:34Speaker 1: it comes to Korean culture how problematic things can be.
- 30:38Speaker 1: They're trying to fix it, they're trying to address it,
- 30:40Speaker 1: but it's really hard to bypass, uh, the fat phobic
- 30:43Speaker 1: thing the whole like she has to be skinny and
- 30:45Speaker 1: then no one wants you if you're not skinny and
- 30:48Speaker 1: tiny and all these things that was That's a running
- 30:51Speaker 1: thing throughout all of Korean culture. I think there's a
- 30:53Speaker 1: couple of shows that try to address that and it
- 30:57Speaker 1: kind of like embrace it, but they do it in
- 31:00Speaker 1: a really bad way. I just saw a preview of one,
- 31:03Speaker 1: and it looks like she is an average woman, so
- 31:05Speaker 1: she's not super super skinny, but I've obviously thought of
- 31:08Speaker 1: as chunky or fat, and the way he's wooing her,
- 31:13Speaker 1: is feeding her more food, and I'm like, that's just
- 31:16Speaker 1: as bad, right, trying to make our diet like this
- 31:19Speaker 1: is this is weird, but like that seems to be
- 31:22Speaker 1: a whole obviously conversation. It was very slight, but the
- 31:25Speaker 1: mother always talking to other women about how fat they
- 31:27Speaker 1: are or no one wants you really problematic. There's a
- 31:32Speaker 1: lot I think they are trying not to be homophobic,
- 31:37Speaker 1: but a lot of the ways that they approach this,
- 31:41Speaker 1: like in the Queer central of things, in this show,
- 31:46Speaker 1: it came off as homophobic. Am I am I reading
- 31:49Speaker 1: into that?
- 31:50Speaker 2: I No, No, I don't think so.
- 31:52Speaker 3: But I will say it was funny for me because
- 31:56Speaker 3: I've had to kind of come to terms with this
- 31:58Speaker 3: and you know, like as I've gone through my my
- 32:03Speaker 3: finding out how identify and stuff and the like really
- 32:06Speaker 3: being like, Okay, I'm queer. Is that I didn't get
- 32:10Speaker 3: like the whole joke joke. I don't think it was
- 32:13Speaker 3: a joke, but I was kind of like, wait, are
- 32:14Speaker 3: they serious or not? Because they kept saying the rich
- 32:17Speaker 3: guy was gay, like he's into men, yeah, And I
- 32:22Speaker 3: was like, but is he? And then I was like,
- 32:26Speaker 3: is this like a because there's a sea where it
- 32:30Speaker 3: implies that like he even googed do almost kid.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Yeah, And I.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Was like, I did kiss I don't know if they
- 32:37Speaker 1: almost she stopped them from kissing as they were super drunk.
- 32:40Speaker 3: Yeah, and then I was like, whoa is this this?
- 32:44Speaker 3: And then it wasn't that, which was fine, but I
- 32:45Speaker 3: was kind of like, wait, what's going on? And then
- 32:47Speaker 3: it definitely had at the end the a very abusive
- 32:51Speaker 3: like development leader at the place that was like leaning hard.
- 32:56Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a moment in which like the friend
- 33:00Speaker 1: secretary he like is trying to tell everyone I'm not gay,
- 33:03Speaker 1: I'm not gay, and then the development dude is like,
- 33:08Speaker 1: why are you so ashamed? Calm down, calm down, don't
- 33:12Speaker 1: react this way. So it's like kind of clean it out,
- 33:15Speaker 1: but in an awful manner with the stereotypical way of
- 33:19Speaker 1: doing things again. Yeah, and I will say, like the
- 33:22Speaker 1: way when the character, the main character, I mean, when
- 33:25Speaker 1: he talks about being accused of being gay, he never
- 33:27Speaker 1: gets offended. He's never had a moment where he's upset
- 33:30Speaker 1: by that, Like it's not something that he thinks is
- 33:32Speaker 1: a big deal.
- 33:34Speaker 6: Yeah, he's kind of like maybe like it's essentially like
- 33:38Speaker 6: I don't care, and like there's a scene where, because uh,
- 33:45Speaker 6: the mom is.
- 33:46Speaker 3: Really like.
- 33:48Speaker 2: Wanting her daughter to get with this CEO.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Essentially trying to give her to the city.
- 33:54Speaker 3: Yes, like consummation, blanket and everything, And there's a scene
- 34:01Speaker 3: where they have a conversation.
- 34:04Speaker 2: About like, no, he's gay, and the mom is kind
- 34:07Speaker 2: of like.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Everyone has flaws. She says, every man has flaws looking
- 34:12Speaker 1: at that.
- 34:13Speaker 3: But she doesn't like, which is not the best response.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Please understand. I know that's not the best response. But
- 34:18Speaker 3: it wasn't like super like well didn't kill him. It
- 34:23Speaker 3: was at least kind of like.
- 34:24Speaker 1: Well like everybody, but it was also funny, and I
- 34:28Speaker 1: don't this could be the translation. So this is the part,
- 34:30Speaker 1: Like this is I really do hope that I can
- 34:33Speaker 1: lean into being able to understand Korean, truly understand Korean,
- 34:38Speaker 1: which I got a sad I read a sad, sad
- 34:41Speaker 1: research paper saying that people adopted people truly forget so
- 34:47Speaker 1: it's just like they never knew it. And I'm like, oh,
- 34:50Speaker 1: I spoken till I was eight. I'm very sad about this.
- 34:54Speaker 1: But anyway, back too, like, because the translation may be
- 34:58Speaker 1: part of this problem. I will say for the specific
- 35:02Speaker 1: show and Vicki Rakaton. I don't know if they have
- 35:05Speaker 1: individual translators like Netflix I think has theirs and all this.
- 35:09Speaker 1: They do a lot better than most by at least
- 35:11Speaker 1: explaining the jokes when you don't understand, like they will
- 35:15Speaker 1: tell you what it is, and I've never seen that
- 35:17Speaker 1: on Netflix. Netflix will just change it all together and
- 35:19Speaker 1: make it a whole different thing, like I know the
- 35:22Speaker 1: vast difference. I'm like, that is definitely not what they said,
- 35:24Speaker 1: Like I know that much. But yeah, so but with
- 35:28Speaker 1: that said, I know at one point they are talking
- 35:31Speaker 1: about the brother tells Bonsoun that he's not gay from
- 35:37Speaker 1: a clinical point of view, he's not gay, and I'm like.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Wait, what mm hmm.
- 35:41Speaker 1: That doesn't right, that doesn't make sense. Like it's kind
- 35:44Speaker 1: of one of those moments I'm like, I don't I'm
- 35:48Speaker 1: not sure what they're talking, how they're how they're leading
- 35:50Speaker 1: into this other than you know, just my opinion. But
- 35:54Speaker 1: I don't think this. I don't know. There's so many
- 35:56Speaker 1: things that are like, Okay, it's not as bad as
- 36:00Speaker 1: I've seen, but it's not great. You're right, right, you know,
- 36:04Speaker 1: and it's still a problem. There's still a long way
- 36:06Speaker 1: to go. And then another one that I finally like, huge,
- 36:09Speaker 1: huge issues the abuse turned comedy. Now, of course we
- 36:13Speaker 1: find out because she's just beating on the dad and
- 36:16Speaker 1: at one point it looks like she has beat him,
- 36:18Speaker 1: like he has black eyes, all of these things, and
- 36:22Speaker 1: it turned out that he literally did fall, and then
- 36:25Speaker 1: she was like, I would never do that. How could
- 36:26Speaker 1: you think of me that way?
- 36:27Speaker 2: And then everybody's like.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Because you constantly brate him, and it's not surprising, but
- 36:32Speaker 1: the fact that people had let it go the entire
- 36:35Speaker 1: time until the very end when he left and finally
- 36:38Speaker 1: had enough, and I'm like, why is this a comic relief?
- 36:42Speaker 1: This is not comedy. I am so confused, even to
- 36:45Speaker 1: the point that she would constantly slap long sooons, constantly
- 36:49Speaker 1: hit her, and when she's lost her power, she's like,
- 36:51Speaker 1: this really hurts. And even when it didn't, it hurt me,
- 36:54Speaker 1: like having to explain. I'm glad that she did finally
- 36:56Speaker 1: address it. But that's a common theme around all all
- 37:00Speaker 1: the comedies, and I'm very like, wow, this seems to
- 37:04Speaker 1: be an okay thing that they constantly beat their kids.
- 37:07Speaker 1: They constantly beat their children. Again, that one we're talking
- 37:10Speaker 1: about the airs, which was older, like twenty fourteen. I
- 37:13Speaker 1: think they are like they're constantly slapping their kids, making
- 37:18Speaker 1: them bleed and just leaving it as is, and no
- 37:21Speaker 1: one seems to blink an eye that I'm like, is
- 37:26Speaker 1: this culturally a thing that I know different cultures. We
- 37:29Speaker 1: talked about this even in our recent episode on motherhood
- 37:35Speaker 1: and children and types of parenting culturally, but it's shocking
- 37:41Speaker 1: that it is still supervised like this at this day
- 37:44Speaker 1: and age, because again, this was twenty seventeen. The recent
- 37:47Speaker 1: ones in twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three still
- 37:49Speaker 1: have that same thing too.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I think that's you know that has
- 37:56Speaker 3: played for laughs, is pretty concerned, and there were certainly
- 38:01Speaker 3: a lot of things where I'm like, again, not unique
- 38:04Speaker 3: to this at all, but like the kind of like
- 38:06Speaker 3: playing for laughs of of that, and abuses of power
- 38:12Speaker 3: like power dynamics throughout.
- 38:16Speaker 1: Again, like he's really leaning into like, if you like me,
- 38:20Speaker 1: then I'll give you this job.
- 38:21Speaker 3: It feels like yes, And and I don't think we
- 38:24Speaker 3: ever specified, but he had her essentially move into his apartment.
- 38:29Speaker 3: She was sleeping in his place with the lights always on,
- 38:33Speaker 3: which I.
- 38:33Speaker 1: Found interesting that's a constant thing. Again. They always the
- 38:37Speaker 1: lights on.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Well all of them.
- 38:41Speaker 1: It drives me crazy. It's the same thing as the
- 38:42Speaker 1: window cars are always driving with their lights on. Has
- 38:46Speaker 1: everything to do with filming, but it always does.
- 38:48Speaker 2: I mean that's what I assumed.
- 38:49Speaker 3: But it was just kind of for me, who's like
- 38:51Speaker 3: I literally are like put blankets over like my internet.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Router, the lights off so I can see the stars.
- 39:01Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a couple of but a lot of them there.
- 39:06Speaker 3: But yeah, just kind of that like played for laughs,
- 39:09Speaker 3: of like, oh, he's kind of making her do all
- 39:12Speaker 3: this stuff, and she was great, like she was a
- 39:15Speaker 3: great actor, and it was funny to see her get
- 39:16Speaker 3: so roued up and yell at him.
- 39:18Speaker 2: But essentially it's still like.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Yeah, constantly her cook and constantly even when he eats,
- 39:24Speaker 1: making sure she carries all of this stuff. There's a
- 39:27Speaker 1: lot to it, of course, like again this is for
- 39:30Speaker 1: this is a show, this is for laughs, all these things,
- 39:33Speaker 1: but yeah, you kind of look at like, is this
- 39:36Speaker 1: is this for real? Though? Someone telling me? Because I
- 39:37Speaker 1: don't feel like this is for real for real? Is
- 39:40Speaker 1: it common for supervisors to physically hit hit their employees?
- 39:43Speaker 1: Because I don't feel like that should be a thing.
- 39:46Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I don't think so either.
- 39:49Speaker 1: But yes, overall this is this was one of the
- 39:52Speaker 1: ones that I really do like. Again, I talked about
- 39:55Speaker 1: how sometimes when you find allegations against the one actor,
- 39:58Speaker 1: it ruins it. Kore culture. Don't get me wrong, the
- 40:01Speaker 1: sexual harassments of it's not cool, No, we never bullying
- 40:04Speaker 1: is bad enough, all these things, but the Korean culture
- 40:07Speaker 1: are again, they are a lot stricter about who is what.
- 40:11Speaker 1: And he got dropped by his agency pretty quickly, which
- 40:14Speaker 1: is kind of like a death stamp for many actors.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty unheard of here.
- 40:24Speaker 1: And again, so the couple is coming back for the
- 40:27Speaker 1: new series, apparently, the one who is like the cousin
- 40:31Speaker 1: of long Lust, cousin of Bungsoon gets her strength and
- 40:35Speaker 1: is trying to find her family. That's that plot. And
- 40:38Speaker 1: then we see a cameo of them.
- 40:40Speaker 3: Is that because I saw that there was going to
- 40:42Speaker 3: be one on the CW Is that what they're talking about?
- 40:45Speaker 1: Oh no, they are doing a remake with Rohnda Rowse. Yeah,
- 40:52Speaker 1: that's a remake of it, okay, and it sounds like
- 40:55Speaker 1: it's a lot more serious than I just don't know
- 40:57Speaker 1: if they could pull off with the Korean hmmm show
- 41:01Speaker 1: I was able to pull off, I don't think and
- 41:03Speaker 1: they are going to be able to.
- 41:05Speaker 3: It was certainly like a like I said, it was
- 41:09Speaker 3: a lot of like, oh, here's kind of our like
- 41:12Speaker 3: comedy part, here's our serial killer part, here's our action part,
- 41:16Speaker 3: which you can't pull off, and is you know, like
- 41:19Speaker 3: it's not like other things don't do that. But I
- 41:21Speaker 3: think it was sort of more shocking than a lot
- 41:25Speaker 3: of shows that uh, mainstream America.
- 41:29Speaker 1: I don't know if they can translate that into so
- 41:31Speaker 1: there's so many shows of course, I got both ways
- 41:34Speaker 1: where American shows will go into a Korean cultural interpretation
- 41:38Speaker 1: and then vice versa. I'm surprised that it would be
- 41:41Speaker 1: Randa Ralsey. I don't think she's very relevant at this point.
- 41:43Speaker 1: I don't know if this was outdated. I don't know
- 41:45Speaker 1: if they're going to actually do it. Well interesting, I
- 41:49Speaker 1: guess we'll see. I guess we'll see.
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