Latest / Pursuit of Sassiness / The Valley is BACK! with Janet Caperna

Transcript

The Valley is BACK! with Janet Caperna · Pursuit of Sassiness

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome back everyone. As you know, season two has premiered
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: and there's so much going on. Thankfully I have my
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: friend and co star on with me today, Janet, so
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: we can support each other through this madness. Yay, Hi,
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: how you doing it good?
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. I'm so excited me too.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: I really wanted to have you first because I feel
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: like we've grown closest to each other totally.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: We've had to survive together through the madness.
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: But did you ever think that?
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Honestly, no, You and I, I feel like, are so
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: different in so many ways, like just with I don't
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: know how we live and we're I don't know. We're
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: very very opposite in so many ways. But I also
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: feel like we're so similar about like our core values,
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like our lifestyles are very different,
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: Like I love junk food. You're like always eating like
• 0:54
  Speaker 2: salmon and broncoli and like stuff like that. But we together,
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: I feel like when it comes down to like the
• 1:00
  Speaker 2: really important stuff, I feel like we have a lot
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: in common.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: I agree we're we have we're like black and white
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: to each other, or we call each other.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: Out right one hundred percent. It's I feel like, there's
• 1:10
  Speaker 2: definitely been times I love that about you too. Is
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: that like if something's going on, if you're like I'm
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: gonna send a text and say this, I'm like, don't
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: do that, or it feels I'd be like a screech
• 1:18
  Speaker 2: out of something like Okay, you had me until you
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: said this, and like maybe you shouldn't have said this,
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: and vice versa. But like, yeah, I feel like we
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: do keep each other in check with things. But then
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: also like if I like there's times where I'm like,
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: oh my god, the only person who's gonna get how
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: annoying this is this, Michelle.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do talk to each other quite a bit.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're an early bird like me. We were
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: up this morning at like six in the morning texting
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: about stuff, and I'm like, you're the only other person
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's up like at the crack of dawn. Yeah,
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: mostly because Isabella is keeping you up at the crack
• 1:46
  Speaker 2: of dawn.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: So who's the first person that you call when you
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: watch the episodes?
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: Probably you?
• 1:51
  Speaker 1: I think it's definitely you. I'm like, I need to
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: get your feedback. I would need to get your commentary, right, Like,
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: I actually like that about us.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I Jason's good with that too. But normally,
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: I feel like we normally get stuff when it's like
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: the workday and he's like, i'll watch it later, and
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: I'm like I can't wait. I'm like I have to
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: watch everything right now. But Jason always gives me like
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: the reasonable like lawyer thing where I'm like, oh my gosh,
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: I can't believe this happened in life and like a
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: show in life. But I feel like he's always gives
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: me like he's like, no, it's not that big of
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: a deal, like calm, you know, he keeps me calm
• 2:23
  Speaker 2: with all of it.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: He'd actually be a great person the text too. Yeah, yeah,
• 2:26
  Speaker 1: I might start texting.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, text him. He's great with stuff. He truly is brittany.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like his text him a few times with
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: some things and he gives a very good, fair answer
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: most of the time to know.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me why did you move from Ohio to La?
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: What is that story?
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: It's funny. So I have an aunt and uncle who
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: live in La. My uncle's a writer. He's written a
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: bunch of like horror and paranormal. He wrote Paranormal Activity too.
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: He's written a bunch of cool, like horror scary movies
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: he did, like NYPD, Blue, Law and Order, Special Victims Unit,
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: all this stuff. When I was a kid. They don't
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: have kids, So when I was a kid, I would
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: come out here and they would take me to Disneyland,
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: to Universal Studios whatever, like Studio a lot my uncle
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: was working on at the time. He would have like
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: a professional tour where they would drive me around in
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: a golf cart and like show me all the sets
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: and all the stuff. So I would come out here
• 3:18
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and I was like, this
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: is so cool, and they would take me to all
• 3:21
  Speaker 2: the tour stuff. But then they would also take me
• 3:23
  Speaker 2: like to the farmer's market with them, and like to
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: cool restaurant like Little Doms and Los Felis is like
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: one of their favorites, and like you know, some of
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: those spots. So they took me to like all the
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: cool touristy stuff as a kid that you want to see,
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: like all the Universal and all that. But then also
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: like I kind of got an idea of what it's
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: really like to live here and like kind of seeing
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: like the culture of la in like you know, like
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: at the farmer's market, you kind of see everybody and
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: kind of how everybody eats here and things like that.
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: So I loved coming out here. When I was a kid.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: I always got to bring like a friend for spring
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: break and we would, you know, ride our bikes around
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: Los Felis, and like, I just loved it. I loved
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: how warm it was, I loved the beach, and so
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: I always I felt like wanted to be here. But
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: I was born and raised in Ohio. I went to
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: college in Ohio. I got married right after college in
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Ohio to somebody who also born and raised in Ohio,
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: so it never seemed kind of practical to actually move
• 4:15
  Speaker 2: out here. And I was always kind of like, I
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: don't know, scared or felt like, oh, I you know,
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: I can't move to Los Angeles. It's too expensive and
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: what would I do out there. And when I was
• 4:26
  Speaker 2: married back in Ohio, things you know, started kind of
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: falling apart. We got married when.
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: We were I was going to say, how old were you?
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: I think I was twenty three when I got married,
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: which I remember at the time thinking like in Ohio
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: everybody kind of gets married young, settles down, has kids young.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: So I remember thinking, like, you know, that's just what
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: you do. It was just normal at that time. But
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: pretty soon after and he was maybe twenty six when
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: we got married, and so we were really young and
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly after. We were married for about four years
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: together for about four before we got married, and it
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: was I started realizing, like I was figuring out who
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: I was for the first time in my life and
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: figuring out who I wanted to be as an adult,
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: and we started drifting apart. There was obviously a lot
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: you know, you don't get divorced just because, absolutely for
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: no reason. So there was a lot of stuff. And
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: my ex husband is a very nice guy and we're
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: on very friendly terms now, you know, we wish each
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: other a happy birthday, or if I see something or
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: he sees something, you know, pop up about I don't know,
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: a mutual friend or something, will kind of lightly talk.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: So you know, now I'm like, I wish him nothing
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: but the best. But we had a lot of issues
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: that A lot of it was like just that we
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: were married so young and didn't know what we were doing,
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: didn't know who we were, and so things started kind
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: of falling apart, and I was like, let's why don't
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: we try temporarily to move to California together. So we
• 5:48
  Speaker 2: came out here together in twenty seventeen.
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know this.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, early twenty seventeen, we lived in an airbnb and
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Silver Lake together. We drove across the country together with
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: our cats wow, and moved into a place in silver Lake.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: And I think I was kind of hoping, like, oh,
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: if we get out of Columbus, Ohio, where we're from
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: and have like a new kind of fresh start, our
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: marriage will come back together. Because I had never wanted
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: to get divorced. That was never an option or something
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: that I thought of. But when we got out here,
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like, oh, it's the same problems
• 6:23
  Speaker 2: we're having, but we also don't have like the support
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: of our friends and family like we do back home.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the problems don't go away. No, I learned that myself.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: And I when we were here, I absolutely fell in
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: love with La all over again. I was like, this
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: is where I feel like in my heart I'm supposed
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: to be just you know. Especially silver Lake is such
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: a fun little area, like we would just walk around
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: all the time, and it kind of towards the end
• 6:46
  Speaker 2: of the time we were here, it was kind of
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: like he did his thing. I did my thing. And
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: when we were when it was time to go back,
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, I want to stay, Like, let's do this.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: We were both kind of working remotely, so I was
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: like we can, like we can do this, Like we
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: can afford to live out here, we have the time,
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: and he wanted to be back in Ohio where he
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: felt comfortable.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, he didn't like La.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: He liked it, but he was like, we can visit
• 7:11
  Speaker 2: whenever we want, and I was like, I just want.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: I also like the Ohio. It's not just that they
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: have winters. It's like for six months, it's like the
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: whole sky is gray, and it's just feels it feels like, honestly,
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: like the colors taken out of the world for a
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: little while.
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people don't mind that I could never live
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: in that no type of climate.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: You've never lived in a cold place.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: No, I'm a San Diego and La girl, So I've
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: always had this life, which I love.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it really like it affects, like seasonal depression
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: is a very real thing. And I think it's because
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: like when you look around and all you see is
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: like cold and gray for months and months it's like
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: it affects you, you know, really strongly. So when we
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: got back, we moved out here, like I think it
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: was in right after Christmas. We drove across the country,
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: so we were here for like three months at the
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: beginning of the year when it was cold back in
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Ohio and when we got back it was still cold,
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: and I remember being like, I, this is not for you. Yeah,
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: our marriage is crumbling, We're not happy, we're not in
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: love anymore. And I'm like, I just felt like this
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: is not I kept waking up and feeling like this
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: is not the life I want to wake up to.
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: Every day. I wanted to sleep all the time.
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: I just was like, this is my feeling too.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: Happy, like and this is not especially like when you're young,
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: like you're It's like, this can't be the next eighty
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: years of my life. This can't. And you know, we
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: were in marriage counseling. We tried everything for a year before.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: It was like a year of not good things happening.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: And I take a lot of blame for that too.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: My ex husband was you know, neither of us were perfect,
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: but he wasn't a bad guy. Like I really think
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: he's a good person deep down. And after a couple
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: months of being home and things were just horrible. We
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: were like staying separately, trying to kind of hide it
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: from our friends and family that think everything's okay, we're okay,
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: but people could start seeing the CS. I remember we
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: like accidentally butt dialed his mom once when we were
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: in the car screaming at each other about something, and
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: we were like very much like like not telling our
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: families anything that stuff was wrong. So I remember his
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: mom being like, what, like, what is going on? Like that,
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: I heard that whole fight, and this is like I
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: had no idea. You guys were struggling. And I remember
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: after a couple months, it was like starting to warm
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: up in Columbus and summer was around the corner. And
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: I went to my mom's house one day. And I
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: had been avoiding my mom because we're close. She can
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: read me, she knows when stuff's wrong. Yeah, So for
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: like a couple weeks before this, I was like not
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: answering her calls. She lived ten minutes away, I wasn't
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: seeing her, I wasn't letting her come to my house.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: And finally I just had a full breakdown one day
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: and I showed up at my mom's house and I
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: had lost Like I mean, I was basically like fifteen
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: pounds thinner than I am.
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Now when you're sad, you lose so much much weight.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: I look at pictures of me from even two three
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: years ago. I was like, I was eating way more.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: I wasn't doing that much anything different, and I just
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: naturally kept losing weight because I was unhappy.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I think stress, you're just like always tense, like
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: it just it does like eat away at you. And
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: I remember I showed up at my mom's house and
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: she looked at me and she was like, why are
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: you so skinny? She was like, you look sick? Are
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: you sick? What's wrong? And I was like, can you
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: just listen for a second. I just started bawling and
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: I was like I'm not happy to do and she
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: could not get over how thin I looked, and like
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: she was like like she thought I was going to
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: tell her that like I was dying or something, because
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: she was just like, you look unwell and before she
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: let me tell her like what was going on. My
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: mom lives in like a historic part of our town,
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: so there's all these shops right around her house. So
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: like three doors down from my mom's house is a
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: church and a French restaurant. So my mom and my
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: mom is always at all these places. So she called
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: the owner of the French restaurant. She's like, can you
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: have somebody run down a piece of chocolate cake and
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: a pie? And like she she made me sit there.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: I say, He's like, she matildaed me, you know, and
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: they tilda when they like make. She was like, eat
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: and then you can talk. And I'm mom did the
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: same thing. I was like, okay, And so I'm like
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: crying into this chocolate cake, just like it must have
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: been the most unattractive thing anybody's ever seen. But I'm
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: just like sobbing into this chocolate cake, just telling my mom,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: like I've been hiding a lot from you, this is
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: what's been going on, And I mean, I just unloaded
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: on her. I was like, this is the truth, this
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: is what's been happening, this is why I need to
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: get away, this is why we tried to move to
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: La together. And I just told her everything, and I
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: was like, I think I need. I was like, we
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: keep trying to separate, but you know, he doesn't want
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: to actually rent a place here and like fully separate.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: We had a three story house and so I was
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: staying in the upstairs bedroom. He was staying in our
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: main bedroom.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: Leading the house. I know what that's like.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: Not yeah, and it just wasn't. But we're still seeing
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: each other and we're still fighting and we're still I'm like,
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: I really need a break, and I feel like the
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: only way I will get a break is if I
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: go to California and actually put physical space between us.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: So I still then My mom was like, you can
• 12:11
  Speaker 2: go for six months. She was like, but that's you
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: need to come back then and work on things. And
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: that was eight years ago. So I went. Right before
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: I had gone to my mom, I had flown out
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: here with my best friend Ali, who you've met, and
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: we went to LA and she helped me find an
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: apartment and I didn't tell anybody that I was doing that.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: We came out, I think it was Memorial weekend and
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: we came out. I found an apartment to sublease. The
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: next day, I met Sheena at a pool party. She
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: was so nice to me and so welcoming and kind,
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: and she was like one of the only other people
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: that I knew who had gotten divorced, like in her
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: twenties or when she was young, and so we kind
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: of I was like, I'm it's interesting, like you can
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: tell like strangers kind of like the truth, but you
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: don't want to tell like your closest friends and family.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: So like, I hadn't said the words like I'm getting
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: divorced to anybody other than my best friend Alli at
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: the time. So I told she, and I was like,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: I'm getting divorced. I just signed a lease here. I
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: was like, I have to go home and pack and
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: tell my family and then I'm coming back out here,
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: and you know what advice And she gave me all
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: of this wonderful advice about like getting divorced and finding
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: yourself again and everything, and we had some other things
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: in common that were really random. So I remember I
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: left that pool party. I was like, Wow, what a
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: crazy experience. Because I knew her from vander Pomp. I
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: had been a Bravo fan for a long time before that,
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: and so I was like, that's so wild. I met
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Sheena Shee and she gave me divorce advice, and I
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: remember thinking like I'll probably never see her again. And
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: when I moved back out here, she had followed me
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: on Instagram and she was like, you're here, like, let's
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: hang out. And my birthday was like the weekend after
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: I moved out here and I didn't really I knew
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: like three people out here. I had a couple friends.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Are you listening to yourself? What an incredible story.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: It's wild. I mean I really think, like I believe
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: in the butterfly effect, like one moment of your life
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: can change everything. And I think back like if Allie
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: and I after we signed my sublease, we went to
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: a random bar for brunch and that bartender we were like,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: where should we go? Is there like a pool we
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: could hang out at? And he was like, the Madria
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: has these epic pool parties. It's free. You can go,
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: like you don't have to know anybody. And I was like, okay, cool.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: So we wandered at the Mandrin.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we wandered over there, and that Shina walks in
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, that's that girl from
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: vander Pump And it's like, you know, I met Shina
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: that day just because a bartender suggested to us to
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: like go to this random pool. No, they were like,
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: go to the Madria And if you need a cool pool.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I got it. So we're sitting there, Shina walks in
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my gosh, like that's crazy, and
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: we get to talking and it's like, if I wouldn't
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: have met Sheena that day, I have no idea what
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: my life would be like now. Like I always joke
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: that if I write a memoir one day, it'll be
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: called I owe my life to Shina. She because she
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: introduced me to Jason. I wouldn't have my baby if
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: it weren't for her, Like obviously I wouldn't have ended
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: up in the Bravo world.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have you. Oh, my friend, you took the
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: first step, I mean, the strength to move from state
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: to state at such a young age and tell yourself
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: and get that divorce like that was I can't even
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: imagine what you went through and how that's tough.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: It was tough, and our divorce, I will say, was
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: the darkest time of my life. And we had a
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: pretty good divorce given like the circumstances, Like we did
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: a disillusion which is available in Ohio where you just
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: agree on everything together. You bring the paperwork to the
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: courts and they sign off on it and we had
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: one meeting basically with lawyers and a judge in an
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: office building, and that was it. And we really didn't
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: fight over a ton of things. Like my ex husband
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: does very well for himself, and he had started a
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: business while we were married, and so I didn't want
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: to touch his business. I didn't want a piece of it.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't want him to have to like pay me out.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't want him to have to close down his
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: business and like ruin any of his what he had created.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I was like, we split, we sold our house, split
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: whatever we made off of it evenly, and both walked away.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Like see, I think exactly like you, and I feel
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: like I'm the easiest person. I don't want anything. I
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: think everything that we have should be split fifty to
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: fifty and call it a day. It's like, it shouldn't
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: be that difficult.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: It should be easy, but it should. When you get
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: emotions and egos involved, it just becomes something completely different.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately for a lot of people.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: I just saw a TikTok of this lawyer that I love,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and he was like one of the hardest things I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: had to go through that took years. At the very end,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it was like everybody was ready to sign off, and
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: they fought over a toaster and that was the real
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: reason why they couldn't get divorced. And there was like
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: millions of dollars at stake and they wouldn't sign the
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: agreement because one party wanted a toaster. And I'm like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that's how I feel, that's my is going.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: It's when people want to stick it to the other
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: that really like gets it. And I feel like there's
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: a kind of couple different types of divorce. It's either
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: like an angry divorce or a sad divorce. And we
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: had a lot of anger, like in my divorce, so
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: not okay, like and like, but then our anger kind
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: of went away and we both were like sad about
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: it and kind of like after we went to the
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: like lawyer's office and signed our disilusion stuff, he was like,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you want to go get breakfast and I was like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: I actually would really liked that, and we sat at
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: breakfast together and we cried and we were like. He
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: was like, I wish you the best. I want you
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: to like fall in love again and find happiness, and
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: like I was like, you two like you know, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: he's in a happy relationship now as far as I know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I think still, but it's like we got to a
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: point where we like put all the anger aside and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: like just were able to like mourn the loss of
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: what was love at one point. And I think you'll
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: get there too. I know that there's still like.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: A lot of I honestly have motions. Yeah, Like I'm
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: just mad at how I'm still treated at times, but
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I'm also sad, like the whole situation is really sad,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and I feel sad for Isabella, like I don't want
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: her to see us like this. And there are a
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: lot of times that I still am very quiet about
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of things because I do think about Isabella,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: like in the back of my mind. That is why
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: there are reasons why, like I am still private about
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: certain situations totally.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: I mean I can tell I feel like whenever I'm
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: around you and Isabella, if she says something about her dad,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that's nice, Like, oh, that's fun. You
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: had a good day with him, Like you guys did
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: what Oh my gosh, that sounds like, And I'm watching you,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, she.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Has no idea how I truly feel about her dad,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but I make sure that she knows that, and sometimes
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: she'll ask me, She's like, do you love daddy. I'm like,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: of course, I love daddy as a friend. Yeah, he
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: will always be my friend, right, That's all she needs
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: to know. She's five years old, there's nothing more.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I really do. I know it's hard to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: see now, but I really do feel like you guys
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: are going to get to a point where you can
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: be like in the same vicinity and it won't feel
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like this, like weight and anger and stuff. Like, I
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: really do think you guys are going to get to
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: a place where it's a lot better.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: And that's what people say. We're on year what too
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: already so.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: Fresh, Like it takes it takes a lot of time.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: It was a year or two of pain and depression
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and anger and a lot of stuff when I was
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: getting divorced. And now, like whenever I see my excesson's
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: very private, but like whenever I see anything that kind
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of pops up about him or you know, something successful
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: that's going on with his career or whatever, I'm like,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: good for him. I'm like, and it truly makes me
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: happy inside for him, and like, you know, anything anything
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: in his world, I'm like, oh, that's great, and like
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want him to, you know, have
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: his life or my life defined by our divorce. I
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: want us to be like whatever we grew from from
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that and it's it was a horrible time for a
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: long time, but it does, it becomes this thing. I
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: think I saw La La talking about it recently where
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: you just like, one day your eyes will open and
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: you'll see it much differently.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I honestly hope so, and that is my dream, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we'll see.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Saturday, we came over Jared and I came over and
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: got some pics of Isabella so much.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Coming over, I was like, I really want a group picture.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I don't have anybody to take it, and You're like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'll do it. I have a nice camera. Yeah. Perfect.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: It was the first time I've used that camera in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: like five years, so I was like, I actually need
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: to dust this thing off and charge it. So it
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: was a good excuse and those pictures came out so cute.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Isabella is so funny and sweet, like she's so goofy
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: every time we see each other, and she's like, hey,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: poop poop button, and I'm like, hey, I'm trying to poop.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Her everybody at preschool right now is saying that. I'm like,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: we don't say those words. And then you say it.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, little poop poo butye, you're crazy. She
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was like she tackled me when she saw me on
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: her birthday. I was like, dang, you're strong girl. She's
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: so sweet her. It was so sweet being a part
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: of that moment, getting to take some good pics and
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: she like, you ended up doing Disneyland for her, right, I.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Do it every year. I just think it's more intimate.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: It was just the two of you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, us too. Jesse had her last year on
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: her actual birthday, so we switch off every year. So
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: this year was my year. He saw her the day
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: before and the day after, so April fifteenth, we went
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: to Disneyland Disneyland together and it was sweet because it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was like the first time I got to really experience
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it in her eyes, like, oh, this is what it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: like for a five year old to meet a princess.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: And I didn't. I couldn't make a reservation to get her.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Hair and princess experience. Yeah. I had never heard about
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: this until you said it. And I remember you being like,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: who has a contact at Disney.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I got a guy I didn't know when she told me,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: She's like, I really want to be a princess at Disneyland.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So I kept checking online. I couldn't make a reservation.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: As soon as we walked in, I went straight to
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the castle. I'm like, can you please take walk ins?
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And they're like check an hour. We're completely booked for
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the day. So I was just a crazy person going
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: every hour and I'm like, please, it's my daughter's birthday,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: like anything. And finally, at like one o'clock, somebody's like
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: we can squeeze her in. I'm like, thank you, thank
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: you so much.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Mom thing you're such a good mom. But it's like
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: these moments that it's like, you know, what does a
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: good mom mean? And it's like it's the mom that's
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: running back to the Disney Castle every hour, pleading and
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: begging them to do my princess experience.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I think I did at least thirty thousand steps at Disneyland,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: because we'd be at Toontown and then go to the castle,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: and like wherever we went, I just kept going back.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So we got her in and she looked beautiful, oh gorgeous.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: So they is it you buy the dress or do you?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: So you shop and you pick out which princess you
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: want to be, and chased Bell. She was Bell so
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: cute and she was just and it was the first
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: time that there was zero tantrums and it was just
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: like she was an adult. It felt like a mini adult.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: She like stepped into her crown. Yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and then you sit down, you get your hair done,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you get a little nail polish, makeup if you want it,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and then you get to meet the princess. So when
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: she met the princess, they were like, happy birthday. What
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: would you like for your birthday? Oh?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: What did she say?
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: She said, because her grandmother passed a couple months ago,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: she kept telling everybody. She's like, I wish I could
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: have my grandmother back.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I know. I remember when she blew
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: out her candles and I didn't hear her at first,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: but when she blew out her candles, I could cry too,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Like it was so sweet. And we were like, make
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: a wish, and she I think you said, what did
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: you wish for?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Her nickname is Malu.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: That's what she was like, I wish Malou was back.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: And I was like what did she say because I
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: didn't know the nickname.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: And yeah, she really caught sweet. She really caught me
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: off guard because it's like she can ask for any
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: present or anything, and like her mind went into like
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I want my grandmother back, and I was just like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: holding my tears and smiling.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: But that's she goes to show, like how like great
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of a kid you're raising, because she could have been
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: like I want this toy, I want the princess experience.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: I want, you know, just about anything, but she has
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: like the sentimental heart, like big sweetheart. She's like a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: rough and tough girl. Like on the outside, I feel
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: like like she like likes to climb and like.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's very like tomboy but also likes gurly things.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: But she's so sweet, very sweet, very strong. Like she
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: acts way older than her age.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: And I think it's great too that you talk about
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: your mom with her and like show her pictures and
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: just remind her so that she keeps that like feeling
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: that she had with her alive, you know, throughout her life.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: And if you, I feel like if you always kind
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: of you know, show happy memories and here's a picture
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: of you guys and all of that she'll always like
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: carry that with her and that's like, yeah, a really
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: beautiful special thing.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And she surprises me. She he has a very good
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: memory yet such a young age, and she's like, I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: remember we'll just walk by a street and she's like, oh,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: I remember smelling the roses with my grandmother and yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: they were really close.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: It's so sweet. That's so sweet. I mean, you should
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: be proud of yourself and proud of her that she's
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: just such a sweet, warm hearted little girl. Like that's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: just really amazing.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And I know, I don't know if you want to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: talk about it, but I know that you also had
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a parent, your dad pass away.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a tough and strange part of life
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: losing a parent. And I guess you always think like, oh,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be like seventy years old when you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: when I lose one of my parents, and when it
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: happens any sooner than that, it just feels like just
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: this tragic, crazy thing that it's like you know me
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: and now, and it's like it's just too soon. My
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: dad passed away. My dad was my dad and I
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: had a complicated relationship for many years, but we had
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: periods where we didn't talk at all, but before he
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: for a while before he passed, we were in a
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: good place and just checked in every once in a while,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: not every day, but we would kind of had a
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: good boundary but a good relationship at that point. But
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: he was in poor health. He had had some ongoing
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: illnesses and sicknesses and things over the years, and then
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: he got COVID in November of twenty twenty and died
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: from that with other complications of his like ongoing health problems.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: But it was it was so sudden and sad, like
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: it's you know, My last text from my dad was
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: like a day or two before and he had said
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: something and I wrote something quick back, but I didn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: answer like what he had actually asked me. And I
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: remember being like, oh, this is this is the last
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: message I'm going to have with him, and like that's
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: always hard to look at. That was like one of
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the hardest things to get through is like, Wow, if
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I go to text my dad, that's the last thing
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: that's there, Like how do I live with this? And
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I remember I was at work and my uncle called me,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: who my dad's brother, who I hadn't talked to in
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: a couple years and I was like, something's not right
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: if he's calling me. And I had an amazing boss
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: at the time, and I was at her house and
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, something's my family keeps calling me.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: You mind if I step away or and she's like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: we're pretty much done, you can just head home. And
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I remember I called my mom, got in the car,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: and my parents had been divorced for twenty something years
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: before this, but I called my mom and I said, hey,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Uncle Joe called me and left me a message saying
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to call him back and it's important. And I was like,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I feel like Dad's dead. And I was like, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: have a twenty minute drive home right now. I was like,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: can you please call him for me? And if Dad's dead,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: don't call me back, and I'm just going to get
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: my brain was just like get home, get home, get home.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: And I called Jason and told him the same thing.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm really nervous. He was working from
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: home at the time, thank god. And when I got
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: all I put my phone down and I was like,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to drive home because if I know,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: if I'm looking and I see that they're not calling,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna know and if I if they do call,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: like I was just like I just drive home and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I in silence, drove all the way back to US Hollywood,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and when I pulled in, Jason came outside and like
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: got me out of the car and I was like,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: is he dead? And he was like, yeah, your mom
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: just called. I was like oh, and I just like
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: collapsed into his arms and I was just like I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: didn't know. I didn't know what to do. I was
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: just like it was it's just this like overwhelmingly like shock.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: It's like no, that's that can't be happening because that's
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: permanent and that's I'm like, this isn't how this happens.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: This And I just was like going through all of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the emotions of like denial and anger and all of it,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and it will say like the one thing that the
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: one silver lining from that was Jason was so supportive
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: and just I can't even explain how wonderful he was
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: at that time, Like he fed me. He I'm like
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the person who books all of our travel and makes
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: all the plans and he you know, he shows up
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: and that, but like this he's like I found four flights.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I think you should wait like a day or two
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: before you go home. And this is like prime COVID time,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: when like we weren't traveling, we were masking everywhere we went.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like I can't even believe I have to
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: get on a plane. And he's like, we're going to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: go home together. I mean, he just like took the reins.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And made it care of you.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: And it's I will always like that. That time was
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: the time that I was like, I'm this is my person, Like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: this is the man I'm supposed to be with. Because
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: in the good moments we have all this fun, but
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: in the bad moments, it's not so bad or it's
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: not as bad as it could be. Because I'm like
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I need to look at this. He's like, I already
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: took care of it. I already got this. I talked
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: to your mom. You're gonna like. He's like, don't worry
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: about anything. When people were like what can we send whatever?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I was like I don't and he would be like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: she hasn't eat today, sent her this, she wants this
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: like and he just he made it so easy, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is a good man. This is
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the person I'm supposed to be with. He just he
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: fully took care of.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Everything, especially when somebody passes, like you really, cause some
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: people don't. Like it just depends on who you are,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be supportive, if you're going to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: be there for somebody. And I found that with Aaron too,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Like he took really good care of me when my
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: mom passed. And I feel like one of the reasons
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I'm also really close to you is because you took
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: care of me and I was not, like I never
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: asked for help even if I'm struggling and I need help,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Like I will not call anybody, like I will always
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: figure it out on my own. And you that morning,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I had to take care of Isabella all day and
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I got a delivery from you and sheina, and I
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I have all this food,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and just to not think about just basic things after
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: a passing is crazy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: It's a weird kind of club to be in. I
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: talked to Arion about this. She calls it the dead
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: dad club, and you kind of have to find some
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: sort of humor in it, but it's it's this weird
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: bond that you have with people who have also lost
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: a parent, and you kind of know what to do
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: and in that time, I know you. And that was
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: another thing. Aaron. I reached out to him and I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: was like, Hey, we're going to send I was going
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: to send food. Can you send me? And He's like this, this, this, this,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: He knew everything that you would like everything.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I was like, how does she know exactly what I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: eat and what I like?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: And he was like and he's like, I'll cook this
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: and this for her. And I was like, great, so
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: I'll order like steak, I'll make sure she has the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: salads stuff she likes and like all the easy stuff
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: just so you didn't have to think about it. And
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: he's like, and I'll take care of like cooking and
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: organizing everything. So that so I was like I saw
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: him stepping up for you big time too. He was
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: like behind the scenes, checking in with all of us
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and like, you know, I'm like, I don't want to
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: bug her every thirty minutes, so I'll bug Aaron And
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: he was like then he just started sending like sheen
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: and I updates of like she's doing good today, like
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: you know this and this. This is the first day
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: without Isabella, which I think she's relieved to have some
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: downtime where she can actually like cry and stuff, but
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: also like she's like I think Isabella was a comfort
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the last couple of days too, and so there was
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a lot of that. But I feel like Aaron at
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: two behind, I was like, this is a good, good guy.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: And I really grew close to certain people after my
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: mom's passing. I mean, you came to the funeral in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: San Diego, Brittany came. I know, who texts me who
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: didn't like it? Just showed me like who's really there
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: for me and like cares about me?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean honestly, I for me. Like I feel
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: like our friendship grew so much during that time. Like
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: it was so lovely, like to meet your siblings and
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: your family and like just sit in that church for
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: a little while and like I remember us just like
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: holding hands and you crying and like just cry, like
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: just you know, like don't feel like you have to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: wipe your tears and hold it all in, like let
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: it out, let all the feelings out.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: And I think that was the first time you saw
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: me let it out.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I was happy you did. Like
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it's like this is the time to grieve, this is
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the time to be sad, Like it's okay to be
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: It's okay to let yourself feel all the emotions, because
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: if you don't, it's difficult. One of the most difficult
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: parts of that for me was like, because it was COVID,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: we couldn't have like a celebration of life or a
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: funeral for my dad, So we cremated him and we
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: had like it was it was Thanksgiving weekend too, which
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: now always just will remind me of my favorite holiday.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: But whoa, I feel like that was like a sign. Yeah,
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: very interesting the lights.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Our parents.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was an interesting thing though, not being able
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: to really like have that service. And it was Thanksgiving time,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: so we just kind of all got together as a family.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: We had like an outdoor Thanksgiving because nobody wanted to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: get sick, and we were so unsure of a lot
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: of things. But we you know, we didn't have this
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: like big closure moment that you get, I feel like
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: from having a funeral or some sort of you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: some sort of gathering, and so that was difficult and
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: something kind of I still like, I'm like, should I
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: now have some sort of thing for him after years
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and years? But you know, I've come to peace with it,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: and you know, I don't think there's any perfect way to.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Walk the cemetery, and she picked her spot, and it
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: was just a crazy moment to think, like this is
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: going to happen soon and I'm not going to have
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: my mom anymore. So I think, no matter how you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: look at it, it's just there's no easy way.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: It is a beautiful thing. And I will say it
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: also made me realize like it's important to have your
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: plan of what you want to happen and like write
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it out, like it was like when I was pregnant Jason,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: I made like our life insurance policies, wills like all
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: that stuff, because it's like I don't want you know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: there was a lot of times where like I questioned,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: is this Like I was like, did Dad want to
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: be buried or cremated? I don't even I was like
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But at the time it was like,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I guess we go with cremated because we don't have
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: any of the other information or I didn't know where
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and what to do. And so it's one of those things.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's so beautiful that your mom got to say,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: like this is where I want to be because you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: don't have to question like did we pick the right one?
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Are you sure she wouldn't want to be on the
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: sunny side of the hill instead of the wind, Like
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: It was a rare opportunity, I guess, and most people
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I know, a couple of my friends also had to
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: do with your situation. They're like, I have no idea
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: what to do. I don't know what they wanted.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: So my dad didn't have a will or write down
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: any wishes. Like I remember getting into arguments with my
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: siblings about it, and you know, being like somebody was like,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he wanted it this way, and Noah, he
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: said this, And I'm like, well, when did he tell
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: you this thing? Which which one was more recent? What's
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And it's like not a fun thing to go through,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: and when you're there's it's never good anyway. I feel like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I know the pain and stress you had
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: for the last year and a half before your mom passed,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and the worry and all that. So it's like having
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it happen sudden sucks, and having it happen not sudden sucks.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It's just none of.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It's if there's never a right time, and that's why
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I'm still angry because I'm like my mom had a
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: young spirit, Like I felt like I had so many
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: more years with her, and I feel like a part
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: of me feels like it wasn't her time.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: And there's still days where like my dad, he's a
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: carpenter and he built houses, businesses, all this stuff, so
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: he was really handy, and anytime still now I'll be like, oh,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I wonder how I should call my and I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I can't call him.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Like that happens to me at least once a day,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, when is that going to stop? I
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: wish I could say like I watched the first episode,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: or I see something on Instagram and I immediately want
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to send it to my mom and I have to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: stop myself. I'm like, Okay, I can't do that anymore.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy. I actually, and maybe this is a
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: crazy thing, but I have texted my dad's old number.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I have his phone, so it's kind of crazy too.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I'm like texting the phone that's in a box in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: my closet. But there's times where I text him and
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: say like I miss you today, I'm thinking about.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: You today, or that's great. There being yeah, that's really great.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just have to. As soon as I send it,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like okay, and I'm like, somewhere he's I talk
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: out loud.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when like I really miss her, I'm like, you
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: probably can hear me, and I sound like a crazy person,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: but I start talking.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and just saying it out loud or putting it
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: in that mess. Sometimes it does feel like I'm like,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: all right, somewhere in the universe, this is going to
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: get to them. And how was it for you? Like
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I remember, like, you know, my ex husband was so
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: supportive when my dad died too. He sent flowers. He
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: was really nice, and you know, even though we were divorced, Like,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: did Jesse reach out to you when your mom passed?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: And how was that experience for you?
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: What was My mom and Jesse had a very interesting
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: relationship because my mom always felt that Jesse was always
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: rude to her and never like proper. I actually had
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: to teach Jesse how to greet my mother when she
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: would come in when she would come in, because he
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't like get up and say hello or give her
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: a hug. He would like be on his phone, like
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: pretend she's not there and I'm like, get up, say hello,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: and then it would make my mom feel uncomfortable and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: she would stay with us for a couple of days. Yeah,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: this is true story. This happened all the time. And
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I literally had to teach him like, my mom comes in,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: please stop what you're doing, say hello and give her
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: a hug, and you can go back to what you're doing, and.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: So should be a given.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: It's a given. The little things. I actually felt like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I taught him a lot as a person of like
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: what to do and what not to do. He was
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: just always so rude to people, and my family always
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: felt that with Jesse, So that was just kind of
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: the dynamic of their relationship. But when my mom passed
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that morning, I had Isabella and she actually facetimed Jesse
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, let your dad know, So she said,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Grandma went to heaven. So he actually texts me something
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: very nice and it's like, I'm so sorry about your loss.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: If there's anything you need, please let me know. And
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: that was actually my day with Isabella. And so about
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: an hour later I called him and I said, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: don't think I can take care of Isabella today. Can
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: you please take her and he's like, oh, I'm sorry,
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: I'm already on my way to oh see, I have
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: something going on. And I think he felt really bad
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: or people told him something, because hours later he's like, Hey,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: why don't I get a nanny for you? So that
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was the first time that he offered y. Yeah, so
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I was mad, but at the same time like he
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: did something nice for me.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: It's a tough, tough thing, but well, here we are.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Here we are, and I'm so grateful for you and
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the friendship. And you know, it is like a weird
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: silver lining that you have in a bond with somebody
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: when you go through something as traumatic as losing a
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: parent together, and it's it's a thing I remember like afterwards,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you know, when my dad died, it was like Logan
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: and Arianna both had gone through that, and and Dana too,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: and it was like they gave me all of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: words of wisdom and support and you know, when I
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: had bad days, I would be like, can I show
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: you like this old message I found with my dad,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: and Logan especially was like absolutely, and would you know
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: cry with me?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: And yeah, we really, like you just said it perfectly.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: We're in that club.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a weird, fucked up club to be in,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and I don't wish. I don't want any new members ever,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: but if you unfortunately end up in the club, you
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: do have good company and support from people who have
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: been through it and understand what it's like.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And there's great books out there, and I'm actually reading
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: one right now about signs, and I believe a lot
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: in that and that they are there and they can
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: give you signs and I've had that happen a few times.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: So it's nice to, yeah, have those sort of moments.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: I remember my dad when I was little, was like
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: when I'm gone one day, like you'll know, you'll feel me,
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: You'll see this, and Ei there is there's stuff every
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: day that I feel like reminds me of him or
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: makes me feel like he's present. Those lights going off
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: just a little bit ago, I'm like, hey, to head, thanks,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: thanks for giving me a little nod today.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: So we watched the first episode. What did you think
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of me introducing Aaron?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I love seeing Aaron. I mean, I've known him now
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: for a little while and I think he's just like
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: the sweetest guy in the entire world and he's so fun.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Like we've done a couple double dates, and it's been
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: fun when we have like things to shoot or do,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: and like we went and got like pizza and martinis
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and like yeah after when we're all dressed up, like
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I think actually you and I were in like full
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: glam but then sweatpants because that's what we wore like
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: two set for whatever promo thing we were shooting that day.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I love Aaron, Like I just
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: think he's such a good guy. You seem so much happier,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Like it's so nice. Also, like watching things back, I
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: feel like from a year ago you just seemed sad
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and anxious a lot. Yeah, and then now it's just
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: like I feel like I'm seeing like the light, like
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: airy happy Michelle.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Well, when I introduce him and I'm looking at myself,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's the smile everyone's talking about.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I see it now.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: It's really sweet to see. Yeah, how is it like
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: reliving everything with him now? And like obviously you know
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: we're going to be watching everything back, and.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I get very anxious because I know things that were
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: said and done, and so you know, we hold hands
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: and we're like, okay, we're in this together. Will be Okay,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: we survived it. We're going to survive this and just
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: keep looking forward. So he's very positive in it all.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: He tries to limit himself in a lot of ways.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: He just was there to support me, be around. He's like,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: you're filming. I want to be with you, Like I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: not going to be home. So that's why we decided
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: to do it together.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, he has a
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: very successful career outside of it, and like I don't
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: think there's a whole lot of that, like in our
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: group of friends, like Jason's kind of one of the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: only ones that has like a career that has nothing
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: to do with entertainment and that's completely separate from everything.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So it's a it is like a fine line I
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: think to walk of, like how much to kind of
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: jump in or not. But I think Aaron's done a
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: really great job of it. Like he's at all the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: things he would normally be at, whether there's cameras there
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: or not. It's like, of course he's going to come
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to my birthday party. Of course he's going to come
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: to this and that and whatever else. So I think
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: he's done a really good job like jumping into the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: group and supporting you and.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he never imagined doing any of this either.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I mean he's in finance and he works all day
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: long and he's like I never thought that I would
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: join you or so, like he's brand new to it now.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Now we have a season under our belt, so you
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: do learn a lot throughout the process. And I'm kind
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: of excited for people to see like my happy side
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: with him.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see you happy. I mean I see
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: it in you know, real life all the time, but
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to see moments of that and for everybody
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: else to see it too, because it is like, you
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: guys have a really beautiful relationship, like at you know,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: coming over for Isabella's cake, Like just seeing how he
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: is with Isabella too is so sweet, Like he's silly
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: with her and like, yeah, you know, I remember you
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: saying that morning like he woke up at six the morning,
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: is like riding bikes with her in the driveway or
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like oh.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're both early birds and they're just playing
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: soccer outside. It's like, oh my god, you guys. Yeah,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: so they also have a very special dynamic and you
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: get to see a little bit of that which I love.
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I love how he's just like fully jumped in and
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: like accepted both of you into his life. It was
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: also awesome to see his house, Like he has an
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: amazing house. I love like those West Hollywood places, they
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: have so much like history and coolness. But I love Erin.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: I think he's a great, great guy. I think you
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: guys are such a perfect match. And the most thing
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I like about him most is like how happy you
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: are and like and how happy Isabella is.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Thank you?
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, why don't we play a little game Since
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I was you know, we talk.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: About grief and and everything. I feel like you love
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to laugh at me all the time because I don't
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: know certain foods.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: You're like you are so naive about the funniest, most
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: random things. And I do feel like there's so many
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: things were like I'm like, oh, like like oh my
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: gender reveal. I'm biting into a corn dog and you're
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: like what you're biting into a corn dog for? And
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: it's just like I'm like, I love when you like
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: look at me like that. You're like you're doing what.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I've never heard such a thing who bites
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: into a corn dog?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Why I out what their baby is. So I made
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: a list of some fun like basically like my like
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Hillbilly roots, a little bit of stuff that I love
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that I wonder if you've tried or know about and
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: if you have, like when or how often you've you've
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: done these things? Have you ever eaten a funnel cake?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: No? Wait, tell me exactly what that is?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, at like at Disney or at like
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: a theme park or a fair. It's like the dough
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: that they fry and then they put powdered chilgar on
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: top of it. Absolutely not, you have to have a
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: funnel cake.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I had a truro at Disneyland.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: It's kind of it's a similar vibe as a truro
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: in that it's like dough. It does some of them
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: have cinnamon sugar maybe on them, but it's mostly powdered
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: sugar and it's like a square glee.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: No.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I had fall of fried dough.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: That's so funny. I thought that was the one on
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: this list that I was like, she probably has. When
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: was the last time you've beaten at McDonald's ever?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Uh? I think when I was in college. I had
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: McDonald's when I was like twenty one.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: What about Panda Express?
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I actually had a bite at La LA's Love pandas. Yeah,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: she she had La La. I mean she had Ocean's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: birthday party and she had Panda Express and I was like,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: let me try it. And I actually thought the orange
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: chicken was very cool. Okay, good?
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: What about Burger King?
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Never Arby's Never?
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you missed it out. Those are like
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: my faves. Do you know what the Warped Tour is?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: No, I'm dead. I'm dead.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: It's like a punk rock concert tour that's like it's
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: kind of like Coachella, but for like emo bands.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Definitely don't know.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: It was like when we grew up. It was like
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: when I was fourteen, I was like, Warped Tour. Have
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: you ever had a deep Fried Oreo? No? They're like
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: also at like fairs and things like this is it good?
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: It's they're kind of weird. Actually that one, I'll give
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you a pass on. So it's like, have you ever
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: been to a county fair?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yes? Last last year we went? Was it a year ago? No?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: I went with Jackson Brittany.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I remember, like a couple of years ago we allow,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: but I was invited I've been to a fair. Okay.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Have you been camping?
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I thought this was food only.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: No, it's other stuff too. Okay. Have you ever been
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: in or slept in a mobile home and not like
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: a tour bus, but like a mobile home? Actually I have,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, yeah, I like that.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: My dad lived in a little mobile home park community.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm proud of you. Okay, I love that. Have
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: you ever been to a strip club?
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Yes? I have in London. Wow, that was a good time.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, I love that for you. Have you ever swam
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: in an above ground swimming pool?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Above ground, like.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: The ones that are like like plastic, that like.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Like the ones in Mexico.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: I don't you have to climb a ladder? It's like
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: the ground then the pool sitting on top. You have
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to climb a ladder to get in the pool.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Oh no, definitely not.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Have you ever eaten at a buffet?
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Yes, I've been to soup Plantation years ago.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that counts.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That's a buffet that totally is.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll give you that. Have you ever
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: milked a cow?
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: Nope, not yet, but I drink raw milk.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I know Aaron loves the raw milk. Have you ever
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: shopped at a thrift store?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: No, I want to say, yeah.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been in Forever twenty one?
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yes? Okay, okay, teenage years okay, sure.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had to pull over and pee on
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the side of the road.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Never, I mean I need to go to the bathroom
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and I hold it till I get to a restaurom
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: so funny.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Have you ever had gushers or fruit roll ups?
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I've had fruit roll ups when I was a child.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Didn't I give you a gusher when we were.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said have one, and I'm like, I'm good,
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: You're like, just have one.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: At the after show, they we had a whole.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I had one. Oh no, I
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: ended up having the Annie's Organic Creganics.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's already okay. When I was making this list
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: last night, too, Jason was like he was dying at
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: all of these and he thought it was so funny.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: And he was like, okay, since Michelle has a lot
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: of blind spots to a lot of this stuff. Who
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: were her crushes growing up, like in the nineties, Like,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: did you like have a crush on like Jonathan Taylor Thomas,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Like who were the people like or like, were you
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: a Britney Spears fan growing up? Like what was pop
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: culture to you when you were like thirteen?
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I was the biggest Spice Girls fan you
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: could ever imagine. I went to there there, I went
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: to their concert. That was my first concert, first concert too.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I had everything Spice Girl, yeah, and I thought I
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: was sporty Spice.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: I love that you would be sporty Spice Yeah. Okay,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: all right? That Nikes. Who was like your childhood crush?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Who was my first crush?
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: Like, I feel like Jonathan Taylor Thomas was mine from
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: no that what was that show called Tim the Toolman Taylor?
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: That show but tool Time Home Improvement? That was oh yeah,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: no that was He was always on like teen Beat
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: and like seventeen Magazine and like all those I remember
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: being like madly in love with him when I was little.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think because I wasn't boy crazy for
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: a long long time, and I was very like a
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't know this about me, but I
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: was trying to be an Olympic athlete. I was a
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: gymnast and so I trained five to six days a week,
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: for five hours a day, so like I really like
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: I got home eight, went to the gym, came home
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: eight and went to sleep. And that was my life
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: for like ten years.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Because you can still do what I had to do,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: like a backflip or something, or.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I can still do like a round off layout.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think we were when we were in
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: Santa Barbara. I was like, can you still do this?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: And we had like a big lawn and you did
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: did some.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Sort of Yeah, you did some sort of like I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: think I just did a round off.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe like some sort of back handspring or something. You
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: did something and I was like, damn, you still.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: Got Yeah, I'll do it here and there.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: It's fun.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think crush. I can't think of anybody.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: We're also a Backstreet, Poison and Sink fan, and so
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: probably like justin Timberlake for yeah, one.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Of those justin for sure.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: That's so funny.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: That feels like ages ago. Oh yeah, I just I
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: was thinking about foods. I want to know if you've
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: tried that are my favorites? Okay, avocado toasts with truffle
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: oil and edible flowers.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, I've had avocado toasts and I love truffle oil,
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: but I've never had them all together but separately.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Every time I go
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: to Paris, I always have to have escargo.
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: I've never had it, but Jason ordered it. What's like
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: the famous there's like a hotel restaurant that everyone goes
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: from Paris. It's like Hotel day something.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Like when we went to Paris, Jason like that was
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: like the one place. He was like, we have to
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: make a reservation here and he got escar goo there
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: and I you.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Couldn't try it, but there's so much garlic and butter
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: in the snails you don't even.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I dipped bread in the sauce and ate that, so
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I got like a little of the flavor, but I
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: just that little tool and like shucking it out of
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: the shell. I was like, I can't do that.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: That's the only thing I eat when I'm in Paris
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: every meal, every day as cargo. Wow, because you can't
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: eat it here.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so funny.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Sushi with Toro and uni.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what to or uni are, and
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: all of the sushi I eat, Jason, I call it
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: bullshit sushi.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I hate bullshit.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: He'll eat like he'll get sugarfish when I'm like, if
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like out doing something for dinner and it's just
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: him and the baby alone, he'll get sugarfish and get
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: like all of the raw stuff my face. Ideal sushi
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: roll would be like deep fried with cream cheese, avocado,
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: sweet potato, wrapped with rice, and I.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Just like, I just like sashimi the fish by itself,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: with the chiso leave and ponzu. I could never if
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: it were up to me, that would be my diet
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: every day, just like. That's that's how much I like it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: It's really good. A Persian dish my favorite. It's called
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: gormets SAPSI.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: What is it.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: It's a stew, a green stew with a bunch of vegetables,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: and it has a sour like team to it because
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: it has dry lemons. Okay, it's the best.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: That sounds zay. I like stews. I like veggies. Let's
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: make it sometime.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: It's so, I heard it's really hard, but yeah, I'll
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: give you the instructions and I'll pretend to help you.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: I love making like other foods from other parts of
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: the world. And when actually, when Jason and I were
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: in we went to Scotland with Ariana like a couple
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: of years ago, and we fell in love with Dushume,
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: which is this Indian restaurant there, and I bought the
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: cookbook and have been making like Indian recipes from their
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: cookbook back home. And so I love finding like recipes
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: from different parts of the world and then trying to recreate.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: You're impressive with your cookie. I try, Yeah, I try.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: And last one, my favorite miso glazed black cod from Nobu,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I actually have had that.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: It's really Nobo's like one of the places says that
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I will like be a little more adventurous and like
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: try some raw stuff and when it's that fresh. Like
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Jason and I did are one on one baby moon,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: not one that everyone else was invited on a couple
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: months before, and we went to Nobu Cabu Cabo Hotel
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: and we stayed there and literally we ate like kings
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: like every night. It was like all the fresh stuff
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: from Nobu, So I will have I have had that,
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: and I will eat like more adventurous and no when
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I met Nobu.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's have a no boo bait okay, let's have
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a no boot. Let's have a no boot date.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I'm down. I'm down.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for coming on, Thanks for
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: having me.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: This is so fun.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Let's talk after the next episode.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, all right, I can't wait.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Bye bye