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AEW Hot Topics and Breaking News · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 1: the Ignition Podcast with the aw fan podcast team. This
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  Speaker 1: is Kelson and Wow. We've got full Gear coming up
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday and tomorrow night. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: on the AEW Dynamite follow up show, instead of doing
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  Speaker 1: a review of AW Dynamite, we're going to be doing
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  Speaker 1: a full Gear prediction show and everybody is welcome to
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  Speaker 1: come and make their predictions on the podcast with us.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to speak, you can chat, but if
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  Speaker 1: you want to speak, we'll bring in and you can
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  Speaker 1: speak your mind on what you think is going to
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  Speaker 1: happen with the winners and losers of the matches, debuts, returns,
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  Speaker 1: storyline twists, whatever we think that we want to predict.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get started with tonight because we've got some
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  Speaker 1: hot topics to go over. The first thing we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about is there have been some wrestlers that
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  Speaker 1: have not been on TV in quite a while now.
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  Speaker 1: Some are out due to injury, some are out due
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  Speaker 1: to just not being booked to be on TV, whether
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  Speaker 1: their contracts are expiring or in the good old Tony
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  Speaker 1: Kahan Doghouse, which which wrestlers do you want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about because there's quite a few of them out there.
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  Speaker 2: How about Ricky Starks? How about Tricky Ricky? Yeah, I know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna channel channel my inner rollins and maybe we'll
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  Speaker 2: summon them here. Ricky Starks has been sinning for the
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  Speaker 2: past like six or seven months. Originally people thought that
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  Speaker 2: he was injured, but to my understanding, he's just not
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  Speaker 2: being booked. There had been an indiscretion with him in
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  Speaker 2: upper management to the best of my knowledge, you know,
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  Speaker 2: sad to see him sit on his hands. I guess
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  Speaker 2: he's not happy with his creative then and then anything
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  Speaker 2: they have planned for him now and there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of speculation that next year, at the end of his contract,
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  Speaker 2: he's going over to WW with his buddy Cody Rhoads.
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  Speaker 1: Now didn't Shane Didn't Ricky Starks recently wrestle in a
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  Speaker 1: indie event.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's popped up twice.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Well, that's actually good, I mean that's I mean
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  Speaker 1: he hasd he since he's under contract with AW. And
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  Speaker 1: I may be wrong here, but my understanding is AW
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  Speaker 1: allows people to do the wrestlers are doing the shows,
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  Speaker 1: but they have to get permissions. So I guess AW
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  Speaker 1: did at least give the permission. Maybe that's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a crack in the door, you know, an
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  Speaker 1: opening maybe.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are a couple active AW talents working
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  Speaker 2: the indies right now. Some of them are doing double
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  Speaker 2: duty and still being featured on TV programs Allah the Beast,
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  Speaker 2: More Toast. And then there's guys like Dan Housen, who's
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  Speaker 2: been sitting on his hands for the better part of
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  Speaker 2: the year for a multitude of reasons, mostly speculative. The
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  Speaker 2: only one that that there's any concrete evidence of is
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  Speaker 2: you know that he's got some family stuff and he
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  Speaker 2: can't do Saturdays for Collision, which is where they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to feature him. I'm gonna pass it off. I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: too much.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think, man, I to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: I he would be one I would like to see
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  Speaker 3: come back, but I'm thinking more of You know, they're
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  Speaker 3: keeping the Lucha Bros around until.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, so you're gonna if you're going to.
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  Speaker 3: Keep them, you know, if Ray's gonna be there to do,
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  Speaker 3: If you're gonna keep him on the roster, let him wrestle.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he wants or he doesn't want to
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  Speaker 4: get injured.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I get that he does have a problem with
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  Speaker 3: the injuries, so but I think he's I think his
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  Speaker 3: contract got extended like almost six months because of the
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  Speaker 3: injuries that he had over the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know they would be like the ones
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  Speaker 3: I would like to see come back and add some
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  Speaker 3: flavor to the tag division.
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  Speaker 4: I miss Miro, but I think Miro's problem is kind
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  Speaker 4: of the same thing as Andrada. He thinks he's a
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  Speaker 4: little too big Chris Bridges and he's not worth the time.
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  Speaker 4: In my opinion, he's gonna have this attitude that's the
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  Speaker 4: same thing with a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, have you read anything that Miro said saying
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  Speaker 1: that you know.
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  Speaker 4: That he's turned down stuff and he was going through
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  Speaker 4: a divorce with Lana and I, I will admit I
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  Speaker 4: thought he was I thought he was released at one point,
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  Speaker 4: but I read it wrong, and he asked for his release,
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  Speaker 4: So I.
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  Speaker 3: Was gonna say he asked release last year early or
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  Speaker 3: late early this year.
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  Speaker 1: So I kind of agree with whoever said I believe
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  Speaker 1: it was suck and said get Ray Phoenix out there
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  Speaker 1: and put him in matches. Yeah, he's injuries are part
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  Speaker 1: are part of wrestling, and yes, Ray Phoenix is susceptible
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  Speaker 1: apparently to injuries, but let him wrestle.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's been injured every year, hasn't he. I
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  Speaker 3: don't think there's been a full year that that those
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  Speaker 3: two have wrestled without one of them being injured since
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  Speaker 3: the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: But my point is is that if he he gets
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  Speaker 1: out there and wrestles, then AW fans get to see
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  Speaker 1: Ray Phoenix, and if he does poorly, then it looks
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  Speaker 1: bad for him. If he does want to go to WWE,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what they want. So he's gonna go out
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  Speaker 1: there and he's going to be a professional. I don't
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  Speaker 1: believe that Ray Phoenix would go out there and frankly
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  Speaker 1: ship the bed in the ring. So Steve and Nett
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  Speaker 1: haven't said anything yet. Do you guys have any wrestlers
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  Speaker 1: that you're missing right now or is there anything that
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  Speaker 1: you want to add to who's already been brought up?
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  Speaker 5: Does that any magic want to wrestle? Or is he
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  Speaker 5: okay with announcing like he does an awesome job announcing
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  Speaker 5: that the commentator desk there, but I'd like to see
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  Speaker 5: him wrestle.
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  Speaker 1: I think Aw's plans are for him to be at
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  Speaker 1: the announced table for some reason, and if something happens
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  Speaker 1: with Shockwave or whatever, hey, Daddy Magic is probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the prime candidates to do color commentary.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: The obvious thing for Daddy Magic is that his tag
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  Speaker 2: team partner just brought their new child into the world,
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  Speaker 2: and the plans for them is to sit on their
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  Speaker 2: hands for the first six months, as they should. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean he's a Daddy Magic as a tag team wrestler,
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  Speaker 2: he needs his better half. You know, he gets lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't daddy.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't wrestle, but he was on collision, I believe
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  Speaker 4: with a segment.
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  Speaker 6: Kelson. You know who I miss above all others.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's.
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  Speaker 2: Love it.
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  Speaker 6: I miss seeing everyone. I miss is injured. I miss Kenny.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I miss I'm miss seeing Rio uh Rio.
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  Speaker 6: I should say her name.
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  Speaker 1: Properly about Rehold of the women's.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, the women's wrestler. Okay, I miss seeing Emmy soccer more.
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  Speaker 6: I miss seeing a Boushie. So everybody I miss it's
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  Speaker 6: just kind of the same people. But I especially miss
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  Speaker 6: Eddie Kingston. So Eddie come back soon.
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  Speaker 1: Speedball Mike Bailey is coming to a w yay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but where does he fit in. I'm just gonna say it,
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  Speaker 1: they need a cruiserweight division.
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  Speaker 4: I honestly don't know much about him. I watched his
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  Speaker 4: match with Osprey. I gave it the five minute a
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  Speaker 4: d D test and it kept my interest. So he's
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  Speaker 4: a good guy to keep around. I think he's a
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  Speaker 4: mid carter and that's fine. That's kind of what they
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  Speaker 4: need is kind of like Shelton Benjamin, put people over
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  Speaker 4: and make him look good. I would put him with
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  Speaker 4: Will Ospray. He has history and I think Mark Davis
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  Speaker 4: is going to turn on him, so why not add
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  Speaker 4: add him with somebody he could talk a little bit
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  Speaker 4: and hide him behind will Osprey.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's not going to be you know, he's still
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  Speaker 2: obligated with He said his goodbyes to TNA, So I mean,
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  Speaker 2: like you said it, he fits in a program immediately
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  Speaker 2: with all the guys that are more acrobatic, Ricochet, Hologram,
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  Speaker 2: will Osprey. I think that'd be a great place for him.
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  Speaker 2: But on the topic of a of a cruiser rate division,
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  Speaker 2: that's a little WCW. You think Tony would ever pull
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  Speaker 2: the trigger on that they've got enough people for it.
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  Speaker 1: I think he would. I think he would because they
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  Speaker 1: do have enough people for it. And I'm glad you
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  Speaker 1: brought that up because Shane he is even though he's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be wrestling for TNA anymore, he is
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  Speaker 1: still under contract until the beginning of the year that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people have been speculating that Speedball Mike
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  Speaker 1: Bailey is going to be in the C two. He's not.
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  Speaker 1: He's not able to, so don't get your hopes up there.
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  Speaker 3: The only way that would be possible was if Tony
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  Speaker 3: bought that out. But you see the debate because then
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  Speaker 3: everybody's saying, well, he could do that, but that might
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  Speaker 3: be something that WWE would be upset about because they
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  Speaker 3: work with TNA. So yeah, I don't think he. I
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  Speaker 3: don't really think he'd fit in the C two. To
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  Speaker 3: be honest about.
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  Speaker 6: It, there was something that might be an added bonus
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  Speaker 6: if Mike Bailey were to come to a w Their wife,
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  Speaker 6: Vita Scott, is an announcer and also a women's wrestler,
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  Speaker 6: so you might get a little bit of both if
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  Speaker 6: they also came along with Mike, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: Has me to stop Russell Toda w before. Has she
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  Speaker 1: done dark patches?
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  Speaker 6: I don't think so. I've only seen her in the indies.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: He's amazing. He's a silent ninja. He doesn't need a microphone.
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  Speaker 2: He could just go out there and kick ass.
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  Speaker 1: It ain't do you guys, who would you most closely
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  Speaker 1: associate his wrestling style? For people that haven't seen like Bailey,
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  Speaker 1: who would you think would be comparable? I I honestly
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  Speaker 1: think hog.
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  Speaker 2: Now Holograham close, but he embodies that Luja. I think
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bailey is more kin to like the Osprey Ricochet,
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  Speaker 2: Old Fletcher.
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  Speaker 6: I say Malachi Black. He has a lot of the
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  Speaker 6: same skill set that Malachi Black does.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, interesting the judo background. You're not wrong.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on because this is gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we do have the C two starting what
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  Speaker 1: next week, isn't it? That's when it starts next week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that tomorrow night on Dynamite and uh, because
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  Speaker 1: there is not a collision this week if I'm not mistaken, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I think tomorrow night I died of my We're
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  Speaker 1: going to see a couple, you know, at least a
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  Speaker 1: couple of people announced we're the C two, or they
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  Speaker 1: may come out with a special. What I would do
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  Speaker 1: is come out with a special or or announced that
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  Speaker 1: they're going to announce the brackets for the C two
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  Speaker 1: are zero, which I.
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  Speaker 3: Saw somewhere that they said that's what they were going
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  Speaker 3: to do. They were going to make it at the
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  Speaker 3: full gear. But I don't I can't remember where I
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  Speaker 3: saw that at. I saw it in Passing like two
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  Speaker 3: days ago.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, uh so, But what we're gonna do is we're
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  Speaker 1: going to go right across the board for everybody, and
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  Speaker 1: everybody can pick three wrestlers that they'd like to see
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  Speaker 1: in the C two and and why.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously like Jay White, I'd like to see him run
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  Speaker 2: it back. I'd like to see him take the whole thing,
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  Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because finish the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the conclusion of Jay White versus Kada, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be a banger banger match. Swerve has a redemption arc
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  Speaker 2: right around the corner as well. I throw a Hangman
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  Speaker 2: in the mix just because you know, putting them every
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  Speaker 2: time you put two of them in the ring together,
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  Speaker 2: you're guaranteed to get a banger match at least a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the sick old blood stuff. So that's my pick.
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  Speaker 2: It was my three.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go, I say, Takeshta Hobbes and well, you almost
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  Speaker 3: got to put Garcia in it again just because of
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  Speaker 3: the run he had last year. I'd like to see
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  Speaker 3: him get back in it, do it again, see if
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  Speaker 3: he can repeat what he did last year, actually do
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  Speaker 3: better than last year. But those would be my three picks.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see Shelton, Benjamin, Jack Perry, and I'm
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  Speaker 4: on the fence about Daniel Garcia. He had I think
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  Speaker 4: he has bigger fish to fry than it. But those
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  Speaker 4: two definitely, Jack Perry would be interesting to see because
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  Speaker 4: o'carda has to be in it, and a meet up
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  Speaker 4: with those two would be kind of interesting to see.
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  Speaker 3: I think Raccata's already the only one that's been in
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  Speaker 3: oun sport.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has to be because he's a champion.
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  Speaker 6: I'd say I'd like to see j White, and I
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  Speaker 6: actually would like to see Kyle Fletcher some more. I'm
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  Speaker 6: in the minority on this, but I actually like Kyle
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  Speaker 6: Fletcher quite a bit, and i'd like to see to
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  Speaker 6: Kesta Steve.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any picks?
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  Speaker 5: Let's see Swerve. I like Kyle Fletcher as well. Let's see.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Jay White, I love j White too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm gonna try to go a little bit against
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  Speaker 1: the green here because you guys have mentioned people that
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  Speaker 1: I would absolutely pick, But I'm gonna try to mention
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  Speaker 1: people that you guys haven't picked one. MJF. I do
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  Speaker 1: see MGF being in this tournament. I see Adam Cole
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  Speaker 1: being in this tournament.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was thinking about him too.
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  Speaker 1: Malachi Black.
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  Speaker 3: Those are three really good pigs.
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  Speaker 1: You've got twenty some that are easily able to go
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  Speaker 1: in there. You know what's interesting too, is also what
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  Speaker 1: Culture just did a video and they answered questions from Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: and one of the questions is how would you fix
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  Speaker 1: the aw women's division, Because, let's face it, I think,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that's fair too, is that it's been
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  Speaker 1: dragged a little bit. A lot of it's been due
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  Speaker 1: to injuries. The women's division has kind of slowed down
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. We're going to talk about Tony Storm
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  Speaker 1: coming back next. But one of the things that they
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  Speaker 1: mentioned as something that would spike it would be sometime
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  Speaker 1: like February or something like that. I think they said
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  Speaker 1: next year, dual Women's Continental Classic. I of course it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be a continental championship. It'd probably be for like
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  Speaker 1: either the TBS or the world title. But I think
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  Speaker 1: that would be a good idea. I really do think
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  Speaker 1: that's a good idea.
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  Speaker 3: The only problem I have with everything you said there
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  Speaker 3: was and that they are saying is the fact that
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  Speaker 3: their slow down is due to the injuries, because I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they have a few women that are injured, but they
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  Speaker 3: have plenty of women they just don't use. That's you too,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you can't you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, in the beginning, when they had.
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  Speaker 3: All those problems, when Brittain was in forget Ward jamps
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  Speaker 3: during the pandemic, you could say that because you had
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  Speaker 3: seven or eight girls out and that was basically it.
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  Speaker 3: But you've got so many.
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  Speaker 2: That they don't even use anymore.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, if they don't, they need to stop
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  Speaker 3: using that excuse and start using the women's division better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could simplify that statement. Instead of relying on
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  Speaker 2: the people that are injured, build on the people that
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  Speaker 2: are active. I mean, I think there are so many
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  Speaker 2: wonderful talent talents that are just sitting on their hands
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  Speaker 2: right now, which is a damn shame.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things that they say in addition
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  Speaker 1: to just doing the C two is putting Athena in
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  Speaker 1: the C two.
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  Speaker 2: Now, aa, Athena is fantastic, and though I believe that
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  Speaker 2: her place should be in the World Women's World Championship
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  Speaker 2: spectrum in ae W, she's literally one of the few
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  Speaker 2: things that's putting eyes onto the r O H product.
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  Speaker 2: Her matches are all bangers. It's been like that for her,
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  Speaker 2: which you know, maybe after her title run is oversial
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  Speaker 2: transition back over to aw TV. But yeah, I that
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  Speaker 2: would look cool. But are they going to bring a
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  Speaker 2: new belt in? Why would we get Like my whole
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  Speaker 2: thing my objection to that, Kelson would be, why would
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  Speaker 2: we get a Continental Classic belt for the women before
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  Speaker 2: we got tag titles.
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  Speaker 1: For the women? No, no, no, what I what I
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  Speaker 1: what I said was the the the Continental Classic would
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  Speaker 1: probably not be called the Continental Classic, although it would
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  Speaker 1: probably be ranged like it would be for the AW
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  Speaker 1: Women's Championship. So whoever the AW Women's Champion is at
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  Speaker 1: the time, like Okada is with the Continental I mean
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  Speaker 1: with the yeah, with the Continental title would be a
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  Speaker 1: part of the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds that sounds cool. But I remember, remember
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  Speaker 2: this time last year, we're doing pods and like the
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  Speaker 2: whole inside jokes, hope here comes another tournament. You know.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like that we're fleshing out matches a
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  Speaker 2: little more organically without having to use structures like tournaments
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  Speaker 2: or points systems or you know, like constant rubber matches.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but to that point, Shane, and maybe maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: wrong here, but when we were saying if here comes
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  Speaker 1: another tournament, who was here comes another meaningless tournament?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah you are You're not wrong. That was
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  Speaker 2: a big point of contention with this would be meaningful? Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So I just think that I think a women's tag
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  Speaker 4: team belt would would be better off for the women's
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  Speaker 4: division because it puts more people in there. On a
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  Speaker 4: on a show, you're guaranteed at least for people to
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  Speaker 4: be on there. There's so much chemistry between the people,
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  Speaker 4: so many storylines interwoven, that it would do some good.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I don't believe they need to do like WWE is
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: doing right now and have different and have different belts
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: for different things. You know, they have a women's Intercontinent
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: or whatever. That's not what needs to happen. What happens
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: is they need to get more eyes on the product.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: And they have some Josh used in Japan. They used
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: to use that they don't even use anymore, and that
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: would be a treat to see instead of seeing some
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: other certain wrestlers that people don't like on the show
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: all the time. There's there's talent out there, but putting them,
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: putting them with a tag team then get them out
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: there more.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: So, make the tournament of tag team tournament.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I had actually brought that up a couple of weeks
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: ago on the podcast that Yeah.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: That would be the best way to do. That would
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: be the best way to bring the women's tag team
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: division into a place is to put them in that
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: kind of a tournament.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, create the belt and put them in a tournament.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: That's a I think that's a fantastic idea. Speaking of
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Joshi wrestling and and whatnot, Tony Storm, Shane, you brought
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: this up as a discussion topic, so I'm gonna let
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you take this over, h So, go ahead.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Tony Storms doing a little world tour for Tony Conner
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: right now. One of my so I was at the
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Fright Night event the Dynamite here in Cleveland and something
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that I've noticed has been kind of floating around. Uh.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: You got to pay attention, but little newspapers whenever they're
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: talking about the women's division, and it's where is uh,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: where is Tony Storm? Now I know my opinion on this.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: I'll wait to share my opinion on this and where
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I think she's going to be, where she's coming from,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: and how it's gonna happen. But I have a sneaking
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: suspicion that like the re emergence of the Women's Division
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: is going to be on the back of Tony coming
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: back and you know, interfering with things coming into the
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: next couple of pay per views. What do you guys
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: got on this?
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know where it put. I think she has
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: to come back. She was a life of the party
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: when she was here. I loved her character development. So
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I'm interested to see where she goes and how Mina
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: uh plays and plays and involved in this and all
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and all that. Those three were the backbone of Women's Division.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: So I'll be interested to see where it goes.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you where Tony Storm is. The
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: last time we saw her, believe was at CMOL And
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: so she's wandering around on the streets of Mexico City
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: right now, because that's Mexico. The last three singles matches
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that she's had, she's lost, one in England, won in Japan,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and one in Mexico City. Team I'm sorry.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: When was her last win?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: In aw The week before she lost to Mariah may
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Wow in a singles match. Now she has won tag
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: team matches. She had a couple of tag team matches
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and stardom that she won, and she's participated in some
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: other matches. But yeah, so she's uh, she's keeping in shape,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: but she's taken, for lack of better words, a break
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: from winning.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I think there was there was something Netflix did too
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: not long ago that had her and Britt Baker, something
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: called the Queens of Wrestling or something like that. They're
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: doing a little documentary and I think they were participating
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: that too, So that's kind of why they've been some
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: of the reason they've been going.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Also, Britt Baker is on Cobra Kai and Tony Storm
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and Camelle.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Queen of the Ring.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Queen of the Ring.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: No, no, I just made that up.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It sounds it sounds right, it sounds right.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, that well w D.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Actually, the part I believe that Tony Storm was is
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: playing in that movie was originally cast for Live Morgan.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Live Morgan had to drop out and they replaced her
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: with Tony Storm. Huh, because it's a period piece. I mean,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I believe the the wrestler that it's involving is a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: real wrestler that I believe she wrestled in the thirties
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and forties, so Tony Storm would fit right in. She
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: doesn't do that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I think that Tony Storm's character is some
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: of the best women's character work in professional wrestling today,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and it's very easy to believe that her. You know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: she came up so fast from where she was at
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: as a stooge in the outcasts now to being like
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: this big prominent presence for the aw women's locker room.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: It kind of has, you know, broken up the division
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But I think, I truly believe so.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: My my theory, my running theory, is that she's coming
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: after Mariah. It's gonna it's coming at world's end. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: don't think they're gonna rip the band aid off at
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: at full gear next weekend. We might get like a
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: little snippet a vignette or a montage after there after
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Mariah retains because I not probable to think they're going
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: to drop the belf off of her this fast. But
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: like a women's faction of people coming after Mariah May
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: sounds pretty cool.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I know that Shane just alluded to a baby Tony Storm,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: but who do you think is going to be the
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: next AW Women's Champion? And I'm going to preface this
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: by also stating this May thirtieth, I believe was the
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: date twenty twenty one Britt Baker won the AW Women's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: World Championship. That was forty one months ago, brit Baker,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and that win on May thirtieth, twenty twenty one was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the last time an American woman won the AW World Championship.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: So just staying with the Americans, is there anybody on
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the roster that you can see not next week, not
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: next month, but in the next cycle of maybe two
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: champions down the line, maybe you know, six months date
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: months from als or any American women on the woman
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: on the roster that you can see winning the AW
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: World Championship.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: And yay, uh Statlander, Hell yeah two, how about that
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: was not even.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: We will of course?
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the fact they haven't slapped the belt on
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Willows sooner is shocking. She's wildly talented, pre matches a
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: banger for her.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: I think they need to start Groom and Camille more.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: I think she has lots of potential. Uh maybe some
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: tutelage from somebody by her side, but I think she
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: has a look, you know, but her talent is lacking
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: a little bit. But she's there. She just needs the
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: right push and to get away from Monet maybe.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of money, does anybody think that Monette drops
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: the TBS title and goes after the World Championships.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: She can try.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: I don't want to get it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: She's nowhere near the top for that.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the biggest name I kind of when I look
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: at the names, you know, I kind of want to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: see somebody that's an underdog, similar to Private Party would
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: in Detag Team champions. You know, look they they've been
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: with the company for a while and now they're finally
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: getting their roses basically. So like when you said Anna
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: j I would be there for that. I would be
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: there for even somebody like sky Blue when she comes back,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: or even Julia Hart. You know, somebody coming in that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect to win the championship, but they do,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and they keep it for a couple of months and maybe,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you know, elevate the division a little bit by making
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it seem less predictable.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: YO, speaking of Anna j My god, that Mariah May
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: match over the weekend was ten out of ten. What
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a banger.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: That was a really good match. I was unexpected. I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: didn't expect it, and I'm gonna be honest with you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and I don't know if anybody agree with me here
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: when I say I didn't expect it. I expected it
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: from Anna Ja, but in a no DQ match, I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: did not expect Mariah May to do how she did.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Nelson, are you familiar with any of her backlog her
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: DDT stuff.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I've watched a little bit of her DDT stuff. I've
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: watched a lot of her stardom stuff, so I knew
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: that she could definitely take bumps and sell and stuff
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: like that and do some really interesting stuff. I just
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: didn't expect it to happen. With all the injury problems
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and stuff that's going on. I didn't expect for Mariah May,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the aw Women's champion, to have that kind of match
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: on a pre taped collision that I guess that's what
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. We've got John Moxley in the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: death Writer's angle, and we've talked about this in the past.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: The main question here is is this angle starting to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: work for you or has it been working for you
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: all along? Where are you on this angle? Look, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: said it before and I'll say it again. We've got
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: John Moxley at full gear facing Orange Cassie, and Orange
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Cassidy is someone that I've referred to in the past
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: as a transitional challenger. I don't think that there is
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: any way in hell that Orange Cassidy wins this match.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be almost a squash. Cassidy
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: may get in a few shots, but I think Moxley
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: will dominate throughout the match. And I hope that there's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: not any kind of interference by the death Writers or
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: anything like that, because I think it's important because Look,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I've said it before and I'll say it again. If
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Orange Cassidy wins this match, then what was the whole
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: point of the John Moxley thing to begin with? Because
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: it was a failure. You know, I know we're doing
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: our prediction show tomorrow night. But that's my prediction. But
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying is right now. My question is since
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the beginning, if you've been on board with John Moxley,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: If not from the beginning, longing to take you to
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: get on board with the John Boxley angle, or are
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you even on board with it now?
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I'm on the fence. I like it. It had my interest,
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: but I'm kind of ready for chapter two. I think
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: Orange Cassidy will get beat down severely and it'll start
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: chapter two without him because now all who do you have?
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Because or the other guys aren't really ready, so they're
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: gonna have to fight and struggle and find themselves yet again.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: So I think I'm ready for chapter two.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: The only problem I have with it is that it
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: seems to me that they haven't been very clear with
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: what Moxley's doing. If they would have made it perfectly
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: clear from the beginning, it wouldn't be such a big
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: deal and people wouldn't be having such a problem with it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: I get what he's saying, and I get what he's
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: wanting to do, but they really haven't because they don't have.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Let's face it, adw's got a problem because they just
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: don't really have any faces that you can put in
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: that position right now?
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: You know you can.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You know if you don't.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Have a face, what are you gonna do? So if
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: they they need to, We've always we've talked about this before.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: We assume it's gonna be uh Darby down the road,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: but getting to Darby, something else has got to happen.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: I've been enjoying it from the beginning.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to. I want to piggyback off that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I think the bigger issue here is the slow burn approach.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You've got MOX coming out with Marina Shaffir every single week,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: cut in the same promo, saying the same crap about
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the same people. I think if they really wanted to
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: run a reset angle, they'd be going after everybody and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: not just Orange Cassidy and his immediate umbrella friends. Like like,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: let's see some major shakeups, like not joy like you
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: know the utiturn is coming, Like you know, Darby is
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: probably the end boss of this and probably the guy
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: to lift the belt off a MOX. But have him
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: take a run at the don Kallis family, have him
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: take a run on at all that that the Bend
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Bang Gang. Have him take a run that like at
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: literally anyone else but that little conglomeration.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I think it just feels very uh death right or heavy,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: and they're beating down everyone, and I'd like to see
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a little more, maybe a little bit more back and forth.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Uh not dominate, but I mean get a win. I
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: know you will probably turn, but I need to see
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: something out of the other side. Could it felds like
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: a total beat down? And maybe this gives a little
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: bit of limb of hope.
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I've loved this from the very beginning because we're
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: not one hundred percent sure where it's going. We think
• 31:41
  Speaker 7: it's going to end with Darby being the one to
• 31:46
  Speaker 7: take the belt from Moxley, but I'm not one under
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: convinced of.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: That because of the Wheeler.
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: You the factor in this whole thing. Why they're saying
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: it up for Wheeler to be the one that takes
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: the belt off of Moxley, given how much like Wheeler
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: has been gas lit. You know, they kind of did
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: the same thing with jay Usso in the Bloodline story
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: with w W.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Lee.
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: I know he didn't ultimately take the belt from Koe Rohades,
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: but look at how over he is as a singles competitor.
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: It feels like they're trying to do the same thing
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: a little bit with Wheeler.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You, at least from my perspective, I honestly don't think
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: that we I think Wheeler Yuda is incredibly gifted, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I do not think that he has the same sort
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: of charisma and star power as jay Usso I see
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: why you would have that perspective, and I respect that opinion,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: but I just you know, Wheeler still has He's still
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a young guy. He's still got a lot of growing
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to do into the character that he's developing now.
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: A couple of things, I'm I think that the whole
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Moxley thing has gone on a bit long. I think
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: I said that last week. I've been waiting for this
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: big reveal, and they just keep drawing the big reveal out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: I'm also feeling a bit lost as to who he
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: is talking about. And yeah, it's very isolated with Orange
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: Cassidy and Orange Cassidy's friends, of which Orange Cassidy really
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: didn't have any friends. Nobody was his friend anymore. So
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: it seems like if John Moxley is shaking things up
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: and changing things, it should involve everybody there. And also,
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: I had said a while ago that I thought it
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: was Wheeler Yuda and nobody else agreed with me on that,
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: so we'll see.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Okay. So I have a question. I believe it was
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Shade that brought up that Darby Allen was to be
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the final Boss. Do we think that Darby Allen is
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know the word I'm looking for. Is he
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: capable of being the final Boss? For John Moxley? Look
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: looking at their styles, John Moxley is the world champion.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: I don't see Darby Allen able to beat John Moxley
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: unless there's some kind of outside interference from somebody like
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Wheeler Utah on Darby Allen's back half. That's the only
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: story way I think that story can possibly happen, because
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I just don't see Darby Allen as being strong enough
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to defeat a frightening bruiser like John Moxley convincingly. I
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: know that it's you know, grun men in their underwear playfighting,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: but still you want it to be you wanted to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: be convincing.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: It's Tony Shavanni with the steel chair Man. No do
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: they've been built building up a Darby for like the
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: past two years. They started with pillar store and to
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: just NonStop, and really he doesn't need to. He really
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: doesn't need to like be a solid combatant in terms
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: of like physical prowess or like fighting skill. With John Moxley,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: he needs to be able to take the beating. Remember
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: they blood in blood out a Wheeler Uda, and Darby's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: whole thing is like surviving death. So like, you know,
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: he could survive John Moxley, and mox has called this
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: out in promos with Darby himself like, hey, man, like you,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: I believe you're the guy. You can't be the guy,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: show me you're the guy, like like mox himself in promos,
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: So I think it's possible, completely possible.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: So I think he reminds me of a younger Derby.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Darby reminds me of a younger raymons Terio where you
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: had to literally pan't literally just beat the living crap
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: out of him to to get him to submit. And
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: you know he's he has a good following. H the
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: fans really like him. I like him. He lives dangerously
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: sometimes I think he needs to turn the down a
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: notch for his own safety, but he's genuinely there and
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: he's shown before that he can technically wrestle too. He's
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: just not you know, he had he had a very
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: good match with MNJFF along a while ago that proved
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: he can still go technically in the ring too. So
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: he's all around guy, but they need him to be
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: the guy. And I really do think that Max is
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: trying to bring the best out of him, and this
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: is what this whole angle is is to make him
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: a man eventor Yeah.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that's beneficial to having
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: someone like Darby Allen with the aw world title is,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: let's face it, when he's in the ring, you never
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen. He's not this big guy that's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: just gonna brutalize everybody. He every one of his matches
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: is in doubt. Would you agree with that? And that
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: would make it interesting.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Darby's the kind of guy that will give a thousand
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: percent every time he's in the ring, doesn't matter who
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: he faces, doesn't matter what the obstacle is, He's gonna
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: go at it a thousand percent. And I think that
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: would be make him a great champion. You got a
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: factor in the possibility of a Sting appearance. He's been
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: training stings son, who could become involved in a w
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: through this this thing. So, I mean there's a lot
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: of options. You could go with Darbab being champion.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not Darby, but the sting Son thing. Do you
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: think that he's gonna take up the moniker of Sting
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: or if he's gonna do his own thing.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I kind of thinking, Yeah, I think he's gonna do
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: his own thing. I don't I mean Sting two.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that that whole thing with his doing his dad
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: thing was to honor his dad during his final match.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: But I just don't see him. I don't think people
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: would buy it Ding Junior, Yeah, I don't think they would.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, he could fight the same way a thing does,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: but the face paint, that kind of stuff, I just
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: don't think they would. They would take to that too.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Now he may come out of his own face painted character.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I think it would be a separated from staying in
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: every way.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he'll do distinguers, splash and stuff to still his
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: moves a little bit, but I think he'll be his
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: own person in the end.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm actually looking forward to seeing when Steve Stephen
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Borden comes in and you know, and and actually Russells
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: but as far as I know, he hasn't even done
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: any indie matches yet. I'm not sure.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think that'll be I don't think that he'll
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: have to. I think he'll just start here. That makes
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: the most sense that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: He may start out here, doesn't If he does come
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to a w it doesn't necessarily mean that he has
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: that matches. He could just be, you know, an enforcer
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: for a while, you know, just a presence.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Darby's bodyguard, I mean guard.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, goodness, I just I just don't I don't know.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: I just don't get the whole Wheeler you to think
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: he's he's a good wrestler. I just don't see him
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: ever being above top mid I don't. I don't ever
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: see being that next run up. I just see him
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: being a mid mid carter at the top. And that's
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: about as far as I can see him going.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: I don't like Wheeler, you to, But maybe maybe that's
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: what we're missing, is that Mocks and the rest of
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: them see something and Wheeler Udah that no one else sees,
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: and at the at the moment it matters most Wheeler
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: is just going to break out and be the person
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: that they always knew he could be, and we'll all
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: be amazed and surprised that he has it in him.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I want to shift gears a little bit here, uh.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about zero Hour at full gear
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and the match between AJ the Cotsco guy, and q
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: T Marshall. Have a question for everybody, uh and please
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: chime in on this. How many of you follow the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Cotsco guys on TikTok?
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: I believe there are, I don't. I just know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: I've just been the only person raising his hand to
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: a camera. Do you guys have your camera on? Yeah?
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I do, Yeah, I have kids. So like that's the.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Reason I was asking is because how many followers does.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: This guy have or the millions, millions millions?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You know. So I've seen a lot of people, Shane,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: and you could agree with me or disagree with me
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: on this, but there's a lot of people are saying,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: you know, why, why are they doing this? The reason
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: they're doing this is because you've got a lot of
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: kids and family friendly units that follow these cots Go
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: guys that will now probably watch at the very least
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Zero Hour. It would be interesting to see how many
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: views on YouTube zero hour gets compared to previous zero hours.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Would you agree with that?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: You know, Kelson, I want, I want to be objective
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: because from a business standpoint, yes, it's a fantastic idea
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: to put eyes on your products. Do you really think
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: that the kid shoving a chicken bake down his throat
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: on TikTok is about it's a double chocolate chom kookie?
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Like you guys really think that this kid is going
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: to get pay per views? Like they're gonna put up
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: pay per view numbers, the people are gonna buy the
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: pay per view just because of this one match. I mean,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: and then the cost go verse. I mean, unless there's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: a marketing deal and Aw's has some sort of cost
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: go partnership and they're finding ways to promote each other's products.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's the tail of two companies. I mean,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: you got a grocery retailer and a pro wrestling cad.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: What are you gonna do to put those things together?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. And
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: if you want me to be like if it's stupid,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: it's stupid. I don't get it. I really don't. I
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: could justify a lot of I get it. I love
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the idea of exposing the art form to as many
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: people as possible, you know, just so we could all
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: share in the love of pro wrestling. But this one
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: is a far reach. It's it's it's too far.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: First of all, he's wrestling QT.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Marshall.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: When the Hill was the last time Qt. Marshall was
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: in the ring in aw.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, but he doesn't make to Marshall.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah Marshall, Okay, whatever. Yeah, I have to agree with
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: you Rowan that that or I'm sorry, Shane, I have
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: to agree with you. There's this makes no sense whatsoever.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: You're wasting time on the pre show that you could
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: have given to a wrestling I don't think it's going
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: to be much reviews.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: They could potentially bring kids in, like Kelsen was saying,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: why not. I mean we see celebrity stuff all the time.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: It didn't hurt anything. I mean, think about back to
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: the early WrestleMania days of who who really thought Cindy
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Lapper Being was going to be joined in and wrestling.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, who knows what it could bring. I'm not
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: comparing that to you, don't get me wrong, but when
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: you got the costco guys and the Wrizzler and all
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: these people. You know, why not try to cross from
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: road and get on TikTok and stuff like that. It's
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: a win win for me.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: We'll look at it this way. The Costco guy has
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: been what's his name, aj Yeah, Dad, he's been on
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon. I'm sure that they've
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: been posting stuff on social media about the match. What
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I would do, I belie maybe he's gonna be on
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Dynamite tomorrow night, you know, saying something. But what I
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: would do is make a point of having both heels
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and faces go up to this guy backstage before his
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: match and do an in character thing. You know, Hey,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Orange Casside comes up to him and says hey, you
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: know basically, and you have hook come up to him
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: and say a couple of words to him, good luck
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: or whatever. Things like that. Maybe even these couple of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: women wrestlers do the same thing, and then by the
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: same token you have maybe some heels come out and
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: do stairdowns. That would introduce the viewers that don't normally
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: watch AW two, the AW wrestlers, meaning the kids and
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the families that watch the Cotsco guys religiously. You know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that's the only way why this word. The match itself
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: is not going to do anything. It's what they do
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: with the with with the Costco guys that will do something.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Well, you gotta give them credit because the Costco guy
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: went on Jimmy fallon the other night and plugged AW
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: and AW social media presence shut up a little bit,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: and they got they're getting some more views on YouTube
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: and they expect that viewership for Dynamite tomorrow is going
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: to be higher because they're going to do, you know,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: some sort of package with the Costco guys. I just again,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: you know, it harkens me back to the beginning of
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: AW when they had the cracker barrel brahaul and it's like,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: do you really think all those people getting sausage, gravy
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: and biscuits being angry with their waitresses at eight o'clock
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: in the morning on a Sunday are really about to
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: spend fifty bucks on this pay per view? Like it
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: just again, you know, I'm not trying to beat a
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: dead horse with that cot with that ideology, but maybe
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: it's me. I just can't wrap my head around it.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm reaching here. I obviously am, but you know, hey,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: you don't grow if you don't take risks. You can't
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: keep doing the same thing over and over again. Whether
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's a good idea or a bad idea, you don't
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: know until the idea actually comes to Pruis who knows.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: This may cause AW to get a lot of play.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I've set up before it. I'll say it again. I
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: truly believe that w WWE got popular back in the
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: eighties when it went mainstream. Yeah, you had Saturday Night's
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: made event, but that was on what it was like
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: at ten thirty eleven thirty at night. You know, not
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were staying awake to watch that,
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: at least not as many as people were watched will
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: be awake to watch Raw at Dynamite at starting at
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock A collision. My point is is that at
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: when Randy Savage an Ultimate Warrior and hul Cogan went
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: onto ourcdio Hall show in character, that brought eyes to
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the product, and that brought the right eyes to the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: product that was those were adult stay at a wake
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that late at night, a popular late night TV shows
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: watching these absolute morons because if you watch their segments,
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: you can look them up on YouTube. They were way
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: over the top, you know, and at w W has
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: continued to do it. Gold Dust did did you know
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: what did he do? Steve Harvey? I believe, I don't.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Remember what he did, but he was.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: He was in character that was hysterical. I thought it was.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: It was very uncomfortable with his wife.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: I believe this stuff like the Goby Geoker.
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: Remember, I mean, I can't remember old Dust was on,
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: but I know what you're talking about. It was really funny.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, you know, like Jay Leno was on and Karl
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Malone and other people. So yeah, to intermit it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: When Karl Mullen was on, he was with DDP. He
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: wasn't just Karl Malone. That's one of the things. That's
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: that if you had guys going on here with him,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: I get that. But just sending a guy that has
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: absolutely nothing to do with AW except for a match
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: with Q T. Marshall and expecting that to be a
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: big deal just don't fit. I mean, no, I agree,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: I don't get it.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: I'm disagree. Yeah, I'm researching in real time right now,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: and I'll tell you as much as I don't get it,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the internet loves it. They anticipated the YouTube viewership is
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: going to shoot up into the millions for the first
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: time for the for a zero hour event because this
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: guy and his kid are going to be wrestling QT Marshall.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: He's everywhere.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Marshal's rabbit. We as rabbit. AW fans don't have to
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: like it. This is not geared toward us. It's geared
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: toward people who don't watch the product.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Mm hm.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: It's as simple as that we are not the right
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: people to have this discussion. The people that have the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: discussion are the families and the kids that are wanting
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: that are watch the Costco guys and ask them, Hey,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: would this make you maybe want to watch AW? It's possible.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: It's worth the shot. Shane. Uh you said that you
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: had a news a breaking news item.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: Oh I sure did.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: Do you want to share that with us now?
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure this is something that will be discussing soon.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: But they just AW just announced a a for Russell Dynasty,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: a Women's International Cup tournament between four promotions, Ring of Honor,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: a w CMLL, and Stardom. Uh oh yeah, the cool
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: as hell. Oh. I can't wait, like I like I
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: saw it and immediately I was like typing I muted
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: and started typing fiercely into the chat, so curious to see,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: like who everyone that they're gonna bring. I mean like
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: they're talking about r H being a big presence in this,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: which could be cross promotional, you know for a w
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: N r O r O H. Being that r H
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: is women's division is great.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: So so just to back up here, Shade, did you
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: say it was a it was it a four women
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: tournament or is it a for promotion tournament?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: It's it's for four promotions for women per promort, per
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: per promotion.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Four women per promotion. Correct, And it's gonna be one
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: night tournament.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: No, uh, it's gonna be. Yeah, it's it's the wait
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the best women's wrestlers to start them. Aw CMML and
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: RARIS will compete in a four way match. Winner receives
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: a title match in any promotion that they choose. That's
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: a great concept. So basically, like the winner could pick
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: a promotion and say I want to grab the belt
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: in that one. So it's it is a fatal four
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: way with four promotions for an undisclosed championship title shot.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: That's cool as hell.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah that is that's interesting. Hey, I can guarantee you
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: that WWE has never done that before. Yeah, I sure
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: as hell don't remember w CW doing that before. Nope,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty sure TNA hasn't done it before. This is
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: something new. Kudos to CML, CML and a W and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: stardom and New Japan and whoever is involved. That's a
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: great idea. Who has thought of it?
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah? R R J I would I would not put it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Well. We will probably be talking about this at length
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: in a future podcast when more details come out. Uh,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to because I agree with Shane,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: it's cool as hell. This is something that's needed, uh,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: especially when you think of you know, a W would stardom,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: specifically with the women's divisions that they have.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: C M l L has some really good women, although
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: they're not as deep as as stardom in a W. Uh.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: There's a New Japan or is at r O H
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: is the fourth promotion? It's r O h oh, it's
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: r O H. So THETA and Billy Starks and Red Velvet. Yeah, well,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that we having a tournament deternament, who's
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: going to be in the tournament?
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: That would be the Tony Conway. But the first Yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: or maybe not a tournament. Maybe they'll do like a
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: battle royal style match. That'd be cool.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: We've all been wanting to see a casino women's match,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: a women's casino match. We've mentioned it many times. This
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: is a perfect opportunity. Yeah, I like it. That's I
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: like it. Well, I'm eager to go find out more
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: information about this. I don't know about you guys, but
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to more information coming out on this.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: But that's gonna do for our show tonight. We will
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: be back tomorrow night at all the Talk for our
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: full year prediction show, So get your match cards out.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they'll be adding some more matches tomorrow night. We're
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: gonna go after all of them and give our predictions
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: and invite everybody to come on. You can sit in
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: the chat and type out your predictions because we'll see it,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and or you can just raise your hand. We'll bring
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you in and we'll take our turns giving our predictions
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and maybe you know some brief thoughts on it. So yeah,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. But anyway, that's it for Ignition.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: This is Kelson and for the aw Fan podcast team.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Good night, everybody, Good night Yo take care,