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Birds Weekly: Philadelphia Eagles "Wanted To Send A Message" To New York Giants · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hi wants again.
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Speaker 2: Everybody.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of Birds Weekly, powered by
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Speaker 1: the Inside the Birds Network. I'm Derek Gain along with
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Speaker 1: my man Ray Dinger. Ray, we have reached the Eagles
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Speaker 1: by a week and man, did they go out with
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Speaker 1: a bang thirty eight twenty over the hated New York Giants. Ray.
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Speaker 1: I don't like to use the word revenge because I
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Speaker 1: think it's an overused word, but do you think this
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Speaker 1: was payback for what the Giants did just a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely, I mean you could feel it, and you
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Speaker 2: and I talked about it and on up to this
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Speaker 2: game that you know the Giants. You know, the Giants
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Speaker 2: rubbed the Eagles noses in it up in the meadow Lands,
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Speaker 2: no doubt about it. They won the game handily, good
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Speaker 2: for them, but there was a lot of that went on,
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Speaker 2: a little maybe a little over the top, celebrating some
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Speaker 2: you know guys laughing on the sidelines. It was the
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Speaker 2: kind of thing that I think if the Eagles were
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Speaker 2: embarrassed and came away from it a little mad, maybe
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Speaker 2: more than a little mad. And when you saw the
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Speaker 2: interviews with the players this week leading up to the game,
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Speaker 2: the one theme, and this went from Nick Sirianni all
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Speaker 2: the way through. The team was physical. You know, we
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Speaker 2: want to be physical. We're going to come out, We're
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Speaker 2: going to play physical, and you kind of want to
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Speaker 2: do that every week anyway in the NFL. But there
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Speaker 2: just seemed to be below the surface, more of a
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Speaker 2: message that, yeah, Okay, you got the better of us
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Speaker 2: last time, but this is going to be a different
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Speaker 2: story coming into our place. And yeah, I think the Eagles. Look,
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Speaker 2: they didn't when they got that last possession, they knelt down,
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Speaker 2: they knelt away the last two minutes, they didn't rub
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Speaker 2: it in. But it was very clear that they came
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Speaker 2: out right from the jump that they they wanted to
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Speaker 2: send a message and tell the Giants you know, we're
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Speaker 2: still the big kid in town, and don't you forget it.
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Speaker 2: And I think they I think they got that one
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Speaker 2: out loud and clear.
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Speaker 1: Dare I say this was their most complete game on
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Speaker 1: both sides of the football this season? Would disagree?
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Speaker 2: No, totally agree, Okay, totally agree. This was the first
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Speaker 2: one that they just took control of it, I mean
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Speaker 2: literally from the second play and held it throughout the
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Speaker 2: game for four quarters and really dominated the game, which
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Speaker 2: you know, by all rights, if you look at the
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Speaker 2: two rosters, they should but they did and they were
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Speaker 2: you know, for the first time of year, they were
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Speaker 2: able to come out and really run the ball, which
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Speaker 2: they that was their trademark last year. That was their
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Speaker 2: identity last year and they hadn't been able to find
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Speaker 2: it through six games, but they were able to do it.
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Speaker 2: They were able to do it this one and it
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Speaker 2: was really good to see that running game come back
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Speaker 2: and they established it right away. I mean that you
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Speaker 2: know that play that they ran second play from scrimmage,
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Speaker 2: you know, where they had where they have Fred Johnson
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Speaker 2: on the field as a six lineman, say sort of
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Speaker 2: he's an eligible receiver, but he's really in there as
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Speaker 2: a six blocker, and they ran that play where they
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Speaker 2: pulled the off side guard and tackle and bring him across,
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Speaker 2: you know, and they get the double team block at
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Speaker 2: the point and get centered down field. It's I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's it's a play that they ran all the time
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Speaker 2: last year and was really kind of the play that
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Speaker 2: broke a lot of those sixty yard runs for Sakuon
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Speaker 2: partly and we hadn't seen it much this year because
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Speaker 2: of the some of the issues you had in your
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Speaker 2: offensive line with injuries and so forth. But they came
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Speaker 2: out with it right away, right right in the right
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Speaker 2: and the first series in this game broke, the broke
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Speaker 2: the long touchdown run, and we're in complete control after that.
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Speaker 2: But it was, it was. It was definitely a flashback
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Speaker 2: to last year, and if you're an Eagles fan, it
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Speaker 2: was really good to see.
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Speaker 1: Before that sixty five yard run, sak One's longest run
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Speaker 1: this season was eighteen yards. I believe that sixty five
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Speaker 1: yard run set the tone for the day because it
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Speaker 1: appeared to take the win out of the Giants sale
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Speaker 1: right from the jump.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it did, certainly. Defensively, I mean the Giants,
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Speaker 2: the Giants, they I mean, they understood, they got the
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Speaker 2: message right away that they the Eagles were going to
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Speaker 2: come out and they were going to run the ball
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Speaker 2: and they were not going to be deterred. And they did.
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Speaker 2: And you know, the Giants, the Giants were funny team, Derek.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at their team, I mean,
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Speaker 2: they certainly have issues in the secondary, and the Eagles
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Speaker 2: took advantage of those. But you look at those guys
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Speaker 2: up front, that defensive line, it's shocking to me that
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Speaker 2: they've been as weak against the run as they have
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Speaker 2: been all year. I mean it wasn't just a Sunday thing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, teams have been running on them
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Speaker 2: all year. And do you look at that defensive line.
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Speaker 2: I mean, all high draft picks, all guys making a
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Speaker 2: ton of money. I mean, that's really should be the
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Speaker 2: strength of that defense, and it wasn't. It hasn't been
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Speaker 2: all year, and it sure wasn't on Sunday. The Eagles
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Speaker 2: owned them.
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Speaker 1: Eagles finished with two hundred seventy six yards rushing Saquan
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Speaker 1: A Buck fifty on fourteen carries. What was common last
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Speaker 1: year has been so difficult to achieve this year up
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Speaker 1: until this Sunday. And maybe I'm being a bit premature, Ray,
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Speaker 1: but they appear to have sat down diligently last week
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Speaker 1: and look at some of the things that they were
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Speaker 1: doing wrong with the run blocking scheme, their zone blocking scheme,
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Speaker 1: and finally figured it out. Now it's only a one
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Speaker 1: game sample, are you convinced and one game sample is
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Speaker 1: now going to be the standard? Or when you consider
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Speaker 1: some of the teams that they still have to face,
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Speaker 1: it's a wait and see issue.
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Speaker 2: I hate to sound like a pessimist, but you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm kind of waiting to see on this. And the
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Speaker 2: thing is, you're not going to have to wait very
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Speaker 2: long because, Okay, you got this week off and they
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Speaker 2: can use the rest, no question. But when they come back,
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Speaker 2: they got the first game back is they got to
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Speaker 2: play green Bay out in the Lambeau and green Bay
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Speaker 2: right now is number two in the league defending against
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Speaker 2: the run. And then the following week they come home,
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Speaker 2: where they've been very good, but they're coming home to
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Speaker 2: play a real good Detroit, a real good and hot
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Speaker 2: Detroit Lion team. And Detroit Lions are number five in
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Speaker 2: the NFL against the run. So if the Eagles have
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Speaker 2: rediscovered their running game, you know, we'll know we got
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Speaker 2: I mean, what you saw, what you saw in this
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Speaker 2: game against the Giants was it was pretty impressive enough
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Speaker 2: to be frank, But before before I'm willing to say, yeah,
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Speaker 2: all's well, they've got this thing figured out and they're
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Speaker 2: back to the same running machine they were last year.
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Speaker 2: Let's see how they do against two defenses that played
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Speaker 2: a run a whole heck of a lot better than
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Speaker 2: the Giants did.
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Speaker 1: When you look at this thirty eight point blowout. I
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Speaker 1: want to single out some of the key players on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football now. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: start in the trenches with Brett Toath. I mean, here's
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Speaker 1: a guy who had taken a lot of criticism, and
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Speaker 1: rightfully so, missing blocks, unable to sustain blocks. But man
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Speaker 1: against the Giants, Ray not only was he the catalyst
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Speaker 1: for the offensive moving up front, but getting to the
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Speaker 1: second level and getting that extra block to spring the
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Speaker 1: running game. We hadn't seen that from Breath in the
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Speaker 1: time he had been in there. Brett, from the time
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Speaker 1: he had been in there this season.
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Speaker 2: No, No, we hadn't. And I mean, to be frank,
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Speaker 2: he had really struggled, you know, And I mean you
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Speaker 2: had I had legitimate questions about just is he up
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Speaker 2: to the task?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: And yeah, he played. I give it to him. I mean,
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Speaker 2: he played really good in this game. I was kind
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Speaker 2: of wondering coming into it after we got the word
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Speaker 2: we all got the word that Cam Jurgens was out. Okay,
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Speaker 2: what are the Eagles going to do with center? I
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Speaker 2: mean they really did have They did have a couple
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Speaker 2: of different ways they could go. I mean, they could
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Speaker 2: move landon Dickerson over to play center. I mean he
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Speaker 2: played it at college and put him at center and
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Speaker 2: then try and figure it out at left guard. Maybe
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Speaker 2: it's Toth, maybe it's somebody else, but no, I mean
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Speaker 2: they came back and they gave Toth another shot at it,
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Speaker 2: and you're right, he played really good. In fact, on
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Speaker 2: that opening Barkley run that you and I were talking about,
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Speaker 2: I mean, he had a really good block that helped,
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Speaker 2: you know, that helped open that hole on the left
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Speaker 2: side that sent Barkley into the secondary and then it
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Speaker 2: was off to the races. So I thought he played
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Speaker 2: I thought he played really good. I mean there were
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Speaker 2: One of the things about this was after the game,
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Speaker 2: uh Nick, Siriane talked a lot about what a team
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Speaker 2: win this was. You know, he used the term the
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Speaker 2: team win over and over again, and sometimes coaches just
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Speaker 2: say that and sometimes it applies that sometimes it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: But this time it really did. I mean, if you
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Speaker 2: if you look at it, I mean you had contributions
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Speaker 2: all across the board. I mean you Han Dotson makes
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Speaker 2: a great touchdown cash for you. You know, Toath you said,
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Speaker 2: did a really good job and playing the center. Uh
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Speaker 2: Ouchi came in and I thought played really good. Ye
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Speaker 2: got some got some real pressure on the quarterback. I mean,
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Speaker 2: there are a lot of guys that we hadn't talked
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Speaker 2: about much up to this point. Hey, Tank Bigsby, you
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Speaker 2: know for you know, one hundred yards, So I mean
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Speaker 2: there was there was a lot of contributions from a
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Speaker 2: lot of guys, guys who you don't normally think about
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Speaker 2: or look to, but stepped up really big in this game.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned Johann Dotson one catch, but what a catch.
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Speaker 1: It was forty yard test down. He went up and
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Speaker 1: mossed a defensive back. When you look at the better
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Speaker 1: offenses in the National Football League, Ray, I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Green Bay, Detroit, the Rams. They spread the
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Speaker 1: wealth around. I mean, they have their key figures, but
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Speaker 1: they spread the wealth around. Shouldn't Johann Dotson be figured
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Speaker 1: more into the offensive flow? I mean, we know who
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Speaker 1: the primary three are, you know, in aj Brown and
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Speaker 1: Davante and Goddard. But man, when you're talking about keeping
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Speaker 1: a defense guessing it on its heels, shouldn't you incorporate
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Speaker 1: a little bit more into your arsenal in this case?
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Speaker 2: Dotson? Yeah, I've kind of been waiting to see that happen.
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Speaker 2: To be honest, you know, I think Dodson's I think
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Speaker 2: Donson's is a good player whose first round for a reason.
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Speaker 2: But I think that, you know, this offense is and
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Speaker 2: these coaches seem very committed to two tight ends, you know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they really like the twelve personnel package, and
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Speaker 2: they don't go you know, they don't go with the
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Speaker 2: three wide receiver look a lot. To be honest with you,
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Speaker 2: I wish they would. I wish they would vary things
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Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean, getting back to what Lane
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Speaker 2: Johnson said after the game in New York where he said,
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Speaker 2: I think we're predictable. I think that's part of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would like to see them have a
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Speaker 2: little more variety in the offense, and part of it
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Speaker 2: being go more three wide, more spread the formation out
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Speaker 2: a little bit, more open up some space that for
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Speaker 2: Berkley to maybe break a couple of those long runs
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Speaker 2: and get Dotson on the field at the same time,
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Speaker 2: because I mean he demonstrated on that play that I mean,
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Speaker 2: that was a great catch.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: I kind of wondered when it became obvious during the
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Speaker 2: week that it was not likely that aj Brown was
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Speaker 2: going to be able to play in this game. If
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Speaker 2: he's really out and they know he's out, how are
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Speaker 2: they going to redesign the offense to make up for
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Speaker 2: his loss. Well, one obvious way is to is to
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Speaker 2: go to Goddard in some big spots, which they did.
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Speaker 1: Another guy you mentioned, yeah, another guy you mentioned, Tank Bixby.
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Speaker 1: I mean, here's a guy, let's face it, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: be honest. He fled out. Stinks when it comes to
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Speaker 1: kickoff returns, but he had nine carries for one hundred
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Speaker 1: and four yards in this game. And Ray obviously we
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Speaker 1: don't get to see a whole lot of him because
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Speaker 1: of where he played before he got here. But man,
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Speaker 1: you talk about shifty, a power, able to move the change.
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Speaker 1: He had one run. I thought he was down two
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Speaker 1: or three times. He kept the feet moving and picked
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Speaker 1: up an additional seven eight yards. I think personally he
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Speaker 1: should be elevated to the number two back behind Saquan
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Speaker 1: instead of Dylan or Shipley.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. He I don't know how much folks actually saw
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Speaker 2: Himen he was in Jacksonville. Yeah, but he's a tough runner, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean he breaks tackles, He's got good balance, he gets,
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Speaker 2: he fights for the extra yard and the run you're
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Speaker 2: talking about, what was it second and twenty six or something. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: carry Now, admittedly the Giants did a pretty poor job
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Speaker 2: of tackling on that play, but you're right. I mean
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Speaker 2: there were two or three times when it looked like, okay,
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Speaker 2: he's down now, and he fought through that and was
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Speaker 2: and got again another five or runner five or six.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, Bigsby played. This is his most extended playing time,
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Speaker 2: and he certainly made the most of it, I mean, definitely,
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Speaker 2: And that's good. I mean, it's if Barkley is going
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Speaker 2: to be a big part of this offense anyway, and
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Speaker 2: the offense the running game is certainly going to revolve
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Speaker 2: around him. But along the way over the second half
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Speaker 2: of this year you're going to have to spell him
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Speaker 2: in every game for a couple series anyway. And what
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Speaker 2: you saw in Bigsby here, yeah, I mean I think
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Speaker 2: he's earned another shot at it. He was, he doesn't.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't look at all comfortable returning kicks. In fact,
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Speaker 2: that he was, he was really poor at it. But
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Speaker 2: it's obvious running, you know, running with the ball from scrimmage,
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Speaker 2: he can do that and if I were the coaches here,
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Speaker 2: I would find ways to try and get him up
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Speaker 2: more of those opportunities.
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Speaker 1: Skinny Batman DeVante Smith. We were just so impressed with
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Speaker 1: what he has emerged to be in the National Football League.
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Speaker 1: But when you look at this guy slight of build,
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Speaker 1: I think he is technically sound of a receiver. Is
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Speaker 1: anybody in the National Football League is. The route running
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Speaker 1: is impeccable. He doesn't drop many passes, and he takes
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Speaker 1: a lot of hillacious hits. He is the ultimate weapon.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a big package in a
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Speaker 1: very rail thin type body, but he is it. And
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Speaker 1: I mean that one pass he caught when the ball
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Speaker 1: was behind him, he was running full speed one way
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Speaker 1: and he reached back and caught it, didn't bobble it,
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Speaker 1: snagged it like he had on you know U to
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Speaker 1: stick him on his hands and kept moving. He just
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Speaker 1: continues to impress in terms of how he goes about
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Speaker 1: his business.
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Speaker 2: He does. He does. And you know, anybody that saw
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Speaker 2: him play at Alabama the year well his final year
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Speaker 2: when he won the Heisman, but even before that you saw,
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's a big time, high level of
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Speaker 2: football that they play in that conference and week in
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Speaker 2: and week out, and nobody could stop him. I mean,
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Speaker 2: and every week he ran up against good defenses that
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Speaker 2: were set to try and take him out of the
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Speaker 2: game or at least minimize what he could do. And
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Speaker 2: he was always he was always still getting open, and
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Speaker 2: he always caught the ball. And I know there was
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Speaker 2: a lot of concern when he came time for the
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Speaker 2: draft from and I heard Scout say it, God, he's small,
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Speaker 2: and he's he's skinny, and I don't I don't know
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Speaker 2: if he's going to be able to hold up in
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Speaker 2: the NFL. I think it totally legitimate concern if you
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Speaker 2: just looked at his body type. But we've seen it
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Speaker 2: now that he is not afraid to catch the ball
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Speaker 2: in traffic. He's not afraid to come across the middle
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Speaker 2: and he'll take a big hit and bounce right up,
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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, he's the thing and the thing
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Speaker 2: that you mentioned is what to me stands out is
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Speaker 2: his route running. I mean, he is just so precise
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Speaker 2: in running his routes at the right point, at the
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Speaker 2: right depth, coming out of the break at exactly the
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Speaker 2: right moment to find the football. And you know, I
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Speaker 2: remember reading a story about him before the draft that
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Speaker 2: said when he was in Alabama that he before every
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Speaker 2: practice he would do one hundred pushups and then after
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Speaker 2: every practice when it was over, and with Nick Saban
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Speaker 2: they were not short practices, okay, but at the end
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Speaker 2: of every practice he would stay out and catch a
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Speaker 2: hundred balls from the jugs machine. That even in that program,
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Speaker 2: his work ethic was in a class unto itself. And
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Speaker 2: to me that was that. I mean I saw all
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Speaker 2: the stats, and I saw all the games and saw
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Speaker 2: all the catches. But when I heard people talk about
17:19
Speaker 2: how hard this guy worked to improve and get better,
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Speaker 2: that's when I said, yeah, this is the guy. If
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Speaker 2: the Eagles could figure out a way to get this guy,
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Speaker 2: I think they got something. And they did, and you know,
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Speaker 2: and you know on draft night he was the guy
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Speaker 2: the Giants won it. I mean, he was the guy
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Speaker 2: the Giants had targeted as he was going to be
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Speaker 2: their first round pick, and the Eagles made the trade
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Speaker 2: to jump ahead of the Giants and take them. And boy,
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Speaker 2: you know, the Eagles history with Heisman Trophy winners is
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Speaker 2: not great. If you look at the history of all
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Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy winners that have had most of them
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Speaker 2: haven't done a whole lack of a lot here, but
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Speaker 2: this kid has come in and he has been He
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Speaker 2: has been a major game changer.
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Speaker 1: Well, if you look at their history with receivers, drafting
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Speaker 1: him in the first round, it's not a stellar record
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Speaker 1: when you think about it. But you know, I look
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Speaker 1: at Dallas Goddard. I think he had three catches for
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Speaker 1: twenty eight yards, but two of those were for touchdowns.
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Speaker 1: He has seven touchdowns through eight games. That's a career
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Speaker 1: high for him. My biggest concern Ray every time he
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Speaker 1: steps on the field is I keep my fingers crossed
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Speaker 1: hoping he can stay healthy. That's the key. If he
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Speaker 1: can stay healthy, My goodness, what an additional weapon, not
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Speaker 1: just not just in the pass catching arena, but his
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Speaker 1: run blocking as well. His past blocking is so invaluable
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Speaker 1: to this to the overall flow of this offense.
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Speaker 2: It is. It is. And when you think about all
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Speaker 2: the conversation in the off season about now, we're probably
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Speaker 2: not going to bring Dallas guy back, you know, probably
19:01
Speaker 2: not going to work out a new deal. He's hurt
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Speaker 2: too much. And you know last year he did miss
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Speaker 2: what was it four or five games? I mean he
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Speaker 2: missed a significant amount of time, but man, I would
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Speaker 2: rather have him than not have them. And when he
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Speaker 2: came back last year, in that whole postseason run, he
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Speaker 2: was their leading receiver. I mean in the post if
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19:24
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19:28
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19:33
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19:35
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19:37
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Speaker 2: You know when people talk about the you know, the
21:12
Speaker 2: tight ends in the NFL right now, you know, I mean, yeah,
21:15
Speaker 2: they always talk about Kelsey for sure, and they talk
21:17
Speaker 2: about Kittle and they talk about Bauer. So I understand
21:20
Speaker 2: all that, and no mention five or six guys who
21:23
Speaker 2: they consider to be the top tight ends. You know,
21:26
Speaker 2: Goddard like never gets mentioned, but I think you should.
21:30
Speaker 2: I mean, and finally this year, I think he's finally
21:34
Speaker 2: in terms of touchdowns, at least, he's putting up the
21:36
Speaker 2: kinds of numbers where people are going to finally start
21:39
Speaker 2: and say, hey, you know what, he's pretty good too.
21:42
Speaker 2: And this was one of those games. Yeah, three catches
21:44
Speaker 2: doesn't sound like a really big game, but that was
21:47
Speaker 2: one of the better three catch games you're going to see,
21:50
Speaker 2: you know what.
21:50
Speaker 1: Ray I hate to say this because we've been talking
21:52
Speaker 1: about him all too much this season, and I really
21:54
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about him, but A J. Brown
21:58
Speaker 1: missed the game because of a hamstring injury, and I believe, now,
22:03
Speaker 1: again it's a one game sample, I believe this offense
22:07
Speaker 1: flows better without him. Now, the Eagles have come out
22:10
Speaker 1: and said emphatically they're not trading him this season. You know,
22:13
Speaker 1: that's off season could be a different story, but they're
22:15
Speaker 1: not trading him this season because they legitimately have another
22:19
Speaker 1: shot to get back to the Super Bowl if they
22:20
Speaker 1: can keep all the key components healthy. Do you think
22:26
Speaker 1: this offense can perform at an elite level, just by
22:31
Speaker 1: the wildness of imaginations that the Eagles decided to trade
22:34
Speaker 1: change their mind and trade him before the trade deadline.
22:38
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't, I really don't. I think
22:42
Speaker 2: he's I know there are a lot of there are
22:45
Speaker 2: a lot of things about him that and a lot
22:49
Speaker 2: of it is the social media stuff. I mean, uh
22:53
Speaker 2: that that have you just sort of shaking your head.
22:57
Speaker 2: But yeah, he's there just aren't many receivers like him, Derek.
23:02
Speaker 2: I mean, they have that kind of size, that kind
23:04
Speaker 2: of strength, that kind of speed, that kind of ability.
23:08
Speaker 2: They're rare. And the Eagles they traded for him for
23:12
Speaker 2: a reason. And you look at what he did and
23:15
Speaker 2: certainly his first two years. Yeah, he had a fourteen
23:18
Speaker 2: hundred catch season, fourteen hundred yard season as first season here.
23:24
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the kind of ability he's got. So
23:28
Speaker 2: I in my view, if your intention this year is
23:32
Speaker 2: really to go back to the Super Bowl and win
23:35
Speaker 2: that thing again, I think I think you got to
23:38
Speaker 2: keep them, you know. And I know I've had a
23:42
Speaker 2: lot of people, and I've heard a lot of people
23:44
Speaker 2: say there's a really good chance that he's going to
23:47
Speaker 2: They're going to move him by the deadline and read
23:50
Speaker 2: all kinds of things into the fact that he didn't
23:53
Speaker 2: play on Sunday, which to me is, you know, conspiracy
23:59
Speaker 2: theory to the eighth degree. I don't think it was
24:02
Speaker 2: anything to that. Yeah, I I never really seriously considered
24:07
Speaker 2: the fact that they would trade him now because I
24:10
Speaker 2: think they they value him as a player too much.
24:15
Speaker 1: Now.
24:16
Speaker 2: Could they survive without him? Survive? Yeah? Make the playoffs? Yeah? Probably.
24:20
Speaker 2: I mean I think they're going to win the division again.
24:23
Speaker 2: I think the way things are shaping up. But if
24:25
Speaker 2: the idea is to go back and win the Super Bowl,
24:28
Speaker 2: in my view, I think you have a better chance
24:30
Speaker 2: to do it with him than without.
24:33
Speaker 1: I agree one hundred percent. The guy who gets him
24:36
Speaker 1: the ball, maybe not enough, but does get him the ball.
24:39
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts second straight game, impeccable game. He has three
24:44
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six yards passing against a very good
24:47
Speaker 1: Vikings defense. Then he comes back and hits on fifteen
24:50
Speaker 1: of twenty against the porous Giants defense, and he continuously
24:55
Speaker 1: beat the blitz once again. The Giants they send an
24:59
Speaker 1: all out blitz at him, and he finds Saquan out
25:02
Speaker 1: in the flats wide open for a test and obviously
25:04
Speaker 1: the Giants blew the coverage on that play, but still
25:07
Speaker 1: he found him in time for an important score at
25:10
Speaker 1: that time in the game. You know, I love using
25:13
Speaker 1: the word efficient when I think about it. You know,
25:17
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. People always question is he elite or is
25:20
Speaker 1: he just good? You know, that's beauty is an eye
25:25
Speaker 1: is in the eye of the beholder. It's what you're
25:27
Speaker 1: looking for. But obviously he's exactly what the Eagles are
25:30
Speaker 1: looking for for their particular offense. They don't need him
25:33
Speaker 1: to throw the ball thirty five forty times a game,
25:35
Speaker 1: although he has shown in the past if he has
25:37
Speaker 1: to he can and do it very well. But the
25:39
Speaker 1: bottom line is he gets the ball where he needs
25:41
Speaker 1: to go. Sometimes he frustrates you by holding the ball
25:44
Speaker 1: a little bit too long, but he doesn't turn the
25:48
Speaker 1: ball over the all important factor in the end, he
25:51
Speaker 1: doesn't turn the ball over.
25:52
Speaker 2: Ray, Right, I think it's what now, fifteen touchdown passes,
25:56
Speaker 2: one interception at this point, right, I mean, those are
26:00
Speaker 2: pretty good numbers. And yeah, and I mean last week
26:05
Speaker 2: that the Vikings game he put up the one point
26:08
Speaker 2: fifty eight point three perfect He pitched the perfect game,
26:10
Speaker 2: as it were. This game didn't quite do that, but
26:14
Speaker 2: still really good. And the way he runs the offense,
26:20
Speaker 2: he's just in complete control of it. You can just
26:22
Speaker 2: kind of tell that. Does he hold the ball too long? Sometimes? Yeah,
26:26
Speaker 2: he does, a lot of it is just what's been
26:29
Speaker 2: drilled into his head about don't make mistakes, don't turn
26:32
Speaker 2: the ball over, protect the ball at all chosts. I
26:34
Speaker 2: understand that. But for the most part, the ball's coming
26:39
Speaker 2: out on time and it's going to the right guys,
26:42
Speaker 2: you know, and it's right now. You just kind of
26:47
Speaker 2: feel and this game was the first game you really
26:49
Speaker 2: kind of felt like the pieces were the pieces really
26:51
Speaker 2: kind of came together on this. Now, well, they will
26:57
Speaker 2: hurt them to take a week off, will they lose
26:59
Speaker 2: in an edge? And I don't think so. I think
27:01
Speaker 2: I think the buy is actually coming at a real
27:03
Speaker 2: good time for them right now. And we'll see when
27:06
Speaker 2: they come out. As we said earlier, they're coming out
27:09
Speaker 2: with two really tough games green Bay and Green Bay
27:11
Speaker 2: on a Monday night and then Detroit back here. But
27:15
Speaker 2: we'll see where they are. But certainly, if you looked
27:18
Speaker 2: at what you saw on Sunday, and look, I know
27:21
Speaker 2: the Giants are not a great team, the Giants or
27:23
Speaker 2: the Giants, but we saw what they did to them
27:25
Speaker 2: just two weeks earlier, and they came out and they
27:27
Speaker 2: looked take a totally different team here. And you know
27:30
Speaker 2: last year, if you look back at it, I mean,
27:34
Speaker 2: everybody talks about the first four games, and coming off
27:37
Speaker 2: the Tampa game, they were two and two, went to
27:39
Speaker 2: the bye, and then when the people talk about they
27:42
Speaker 2: came out of the bye and they were this different
27:44
Speaker 2: team and they ran away with the season. Well not really.
27:49
Speaker 2: I mean they came out with a different philosophy and
27:51
Speaker 2: ultimately they won the Super Bowl. When you think about it,
27:54
Speaker 2: I mean they came out of there, they played They
27:56
Speaker 2: didn't play good against Cleveland, No, I mean, I mean
27:59
Speaker 2: people they bought the link were booing up for God's
28:02
Speaker 2: sake in that game. And you know, a couple weeks
28:04
Speaker 2: down the road, they almost blew a game at home
28:06
Speaker 2: to Jacksonville. So they had their missteps in there. Now
28:11
Speaker 2: by the time they got into the real home stretch,
28:14
Speaker 2: I mean, they had a hummin and we all saw that.
28:16
Speaker 2: But I mean there was there was some sputtering and
28:19
Speaker 2: there was some mistakes and there was some ugly stuff
28:22
Speaker 2: in there and then, but they've finally worked it out,
28:25
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe that's kind of what we saw
28:27
Speaker 2: here maybe at six and two, where they are right
28:31
Speaker 2: now is maybe about where they were at six and
28:33
Speaker 2: two last year. You know, they hadn't yet really settled in,
28:38
Speaker 2: but they were kind of getting to that point where
28:41
Speaker 2: we get a few more guys healthy, now we're ready
28:43
Speaker 2: to take off, and if they are well okay, we'll
28:47
Speaker 2: find out soon enough because Green Bay and Detroit will
28:50
Speaker 2: be a big test.
28:51
Speaker 1: Yes, defensively, much better performance against Jackson Dark than that
28:57
Speaker 1: first time around. They got to him five times and
29:00
Speaker 1: put him on the ground. They did let him just
29:03
Speaker 1: slip and run the way he did that first game.
29:05
Speaker 1: And I thought, as you had mentioned, we talked about
29:09
Speaker 1: this before the taping, Jalx Hunt really stepped up. Four tackles,
29:14
Speaker 1: one sack. But I think this is probably his best
29:19
Speaker 1: overall game this season.
29:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I think so too. I
29:25
Speaker 2: saw the official statute. I think they had him down
29:27
Speaker 2: for nine pressures, geez, which and he did have one sack,
29:31
Speaker 2: one solo sack, but he had nine pressures as well,
29:34
Speaker 2: which was the most of anybody on the team. I
29:36
Speaker 2: thought this was his best game. Yeah. I had thought,
29:41
Speaker 2: to be honest, earlier the season, I was kind of disappointed,
29:45
Speaker 2: you know, I really was. I after what I saw
29:48
Speaker 2: of him late last season, when he got more of
29:51
Speaker 2: a chance to play, and even more so in the postseason,
29:56
Speaker 2: I thought, this guy is really he's a young player.
30:00
Speaker 2: I know that, small school, I know that, but he
30:04
Speaker 2: was really showing me something. And I've really kind of
30:07
Speaker 2: thought that when they lost a lot of guys off
30:10
Speaker 2: the defense in the offseason that giving his kid more
30:15
Speaker 2: snaps and giving him more opportunities, that he would step
30:19
Speaker 2: in and he would be really good. And he had
30:22
Speaker 2: his moments, but overall I was a little disappointed, to
30:26
Speaker 2: be honest. But this past game, I mean, he really
30:30
Speaker 2: showed up, and I thought that. I think that that
30:34
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio did a really good job with his guys
30:37
Speaker 2: in the preparation for this game, looking at the film
30:41
Speaker 2: of Dart and seeing just how elusive this kid is
30:46
Speaker 2: and how slippery he is getting out of the pocket
30:48
Speaker 2: and getting outside and making plays, and the Eagles didn't
30:52
Speaker 2: let him. I mean, the game up in New York,
30:54
Speaker 2: he was doing that all night long and making big plays.
30:58
Speaker 2: This game, the Eagles did a much better job of
31:00
Speaker 2: him and him in and times you could see him
31:03
Speaker 2: trying to get out and they didn't let him out.
31:05
Speaker 2: So they were much better prepared for him this time
31:08
Speaker 2: than they were a couple of weeks ago.
31:11
Speaker 1: If there was one blemish in this game just in general,
31:14
Speaker 1: it was that injury to Cam Scataboo. I mean, Zach
31:17
Speaker 1: Bond tackles him and you see him on the ground,
31:20
Speaker 1: He's pointing at his ankle and you see it on
31:22
Speaker 1: the camera. His ankles turned sideways.
31:25
Speaker 2: And I was.
31:26
Speaker 1: Really proud of the Philadelphia fan base that stood up
31:29
Speaker 1: and gave this young man a standing ovation. You know,
31:32
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles fan base gets such a black guy
31:35
Speaker 1: nationally in terms of how they're perceived, but what a
31:39
Speaker 1: class act they were applauding Cam and showing respect for him.
31:45
Speaker 1: I mean, a guy who doesn't even have a complete
31:47
Speaker 1: half season in the National Football League, but he's all
31:50
Speaker 1: of a sudden become the talk around the league because
31:52
Speaker 1: of his style of play, and what the Philadelphia fan
31:55
Speaker 1: base did. I think really should have elevated status in
32:00
Speaker 1: terms of being not just loyal passion of football, fans,
32:04
Speaker 1: but respectful fans of good talent going down.
32:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you and I both know that won't happen.
32:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know.
32:12
Speaker 2: But but what I was actually, if you hadn't brought
32:16
Speaker 2: it up, I was going to I thought this. I
32:19
Speaker 2: thought the same thing. I thought that that that was
32:23
Speaker 2: a gesture of really great sportsmanship when a part of
32:26
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia fans, and because it was the New York
32:31
Speaker 2: and because the press box was full of New York media,
32:35
Speaker 2: I wondered. I wondered if that would maybe change the
32:39
Speaker 2: perception a little bit that doing that, having that kind
32:43
Speaker 2: of response, which was really classy. I thought, with the
32:48
Speaker 2: New York media, which is very hostile and always has
32:50
Speaker 2: been very hostile about Philadelphia fans, if that would maybe
32:54
Speaker 2: begin to change some of the thinking of some of
32:57
Speaker 2: those people. Now, I don't know if it will, but
32:59
Speaker 2: I I certainly thought about it. And you know, scatter
33:04
Speaker 2: scatter Brow is he's a player you really like. I mean,
33:09
Speaker 2: he's he's a hard nosed kid who plays really hard.
33:13
Speaker 2: And you know a lot of the scouts said, oh,
33:15
Speaker 2: he's not that big and he's not that fast, YadA, YadA, YadA,
33:19
Speaker 2: but he has such tremendous desire, and you can see
33:22
Speaker 2: the difference that he has made on that Giants team
33:24
Speaker 2: this year. Uh and listen, if if he was playing
33:29
Speaker 2: for the Eagles, with this city love him, I mean
33:32
Speaker 2: he would be he would be so popular here. And
33:35
Speaker 2: I think you saw it that, even we're in a
33:37
Speaker 2: Giants uniform, the people here respected the kind of competitor
33:41
Speaker 2: he was. And so you know, when I think about
33:44
Speaker 2: all the times that we in Philadelphia here and we're
33:48
Speaker 2: reminded by fans about, oh, you booed you know, you
33:53
Speaker 2: you booed Dion Sanders when he got hurt here. You know,
33:56
Speaker 2: you booed Moon Michael Irvin when he got hurt here.
33:59
Speaker 2: You were you were so mean? And those are largely
34:03
Speaker 2: bogus stories, but I mean that's the rap that was
34:06
Speaker 2: hung around everybody's neck here for decades. I thought that
34:10
Speaker 2: this was an occasion where the Philadelphia fans showed what
34:13
Speaker 2: they really are, which is really classy, really knowledgeable and
34:16
Speaker 2: respectful fans. And I was glad to see it. Now.
34:19
Speaker 2: How much how much that will go about changing the
34:22
Speaker 2: overall perception the Philadelphia fans, I would like to think
34:25
Speaker 2: it will. I don't know that it will, but I
34:27
Speaker 2: would like to think it will. And you know, I
34:29
Speaker 2: thought it was I thought it was something that I
34:31
Speaker 2: was I was happy to see the fans respond the
34:33
Speaker 2: way they did. And today we got the news that
34:37
Speaker 2: Big Dom delivered a pizza to the Kidnaps, not just
34:41
Speaker 2: the pizza, but and Angelo's cheese steaged also. So what
34:46
Speaker 2: more can you do to prove that we really are
34:48
Speaker 2: great sports fans? I was really happy to see that.
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Speaker 1: Can we talk about the officiating for just a moment? Oh,
35:54
Speaker 1: you talk about a Grotius Ray. That was one of
35:58
Speaker 1: the worst officiated games I've seen in a long time.
36:00
Speaker 1: But it's been happening across the National Football League for
36:03
Speaker 1: the last several years now.
36:04
Speaker 2: It has well Listen, we've had you and I have
36:08
Speaker 2: had I mean, he has played eight games. I think
36:11
Speaker 2: in at least three of them, maybe four of them.
36:14
Speaker 2: Half of them, we've had this discussion. Yeah, we've said
36:17
Speaker 2: I think I said, this is one of the worst
36:19
Speaker 2: officiated games I've ever seen. I think we've said it
36:21
Speaker 2: like three or four times just this year. And this
36:25
Speaker 2: one may have been the worst. This one may have
36:28
Speaker 2: been the worst, you know, And there are a lot
36:32
Speaker 2: of things about the way the league does business now
36:34
Speaker 2: that just make me shake my head. You know. I
36:38
Speaker 2: wish I wish the guy's up on Park Avenue and
36:42
Speaker 2: I'm going all the way up to the top. Roger Goodell,
36:44
Speaker 2: the commissioner, I wish they spent half as much time
36:48
Speaker 2: worrying about their game and the state of their game,
36:53
Speaker 2: and the way their game is played and the way
36:55
Speaker 2: their game is officiated. I wish they spent half as
36:58
Speaker 2: much time worrying about that as they do play in
37:00
Speaker 2: football games in Madrid. I wish that they would just
37:06
Speaker 2: just be the caretakers of their game, you know, and
37:09
Speaker 2: make it as good a game as it can possibly be.
37:12
Speaker 2: You know, don't worry about selling T shirts and hoodies
37:17
Speaker 2: in Munich, you know. I mean, look at your game,
37:20
Speaker 2: in the state of your game, and look at your officiating.
37:23
Speaker 2: And I mean all across the Eagles game was an
37:25
Speaker 2: atrocious example of it. But all across the league, the
37:29
Speaker 2: caliber the officiating, and it doesn't seem like it's ever
37:32
Speaker 2: getting any better. I mean every year, every year, we
37:36
Speaker 2: you me, we all say that I've got to do
37:38
Speaker 2: something about the officiating, you know, and every year it
37:42
Speaker 2: comes back and it's the same thing all over again.
37:44
Speaker 2: And boy, if you want to just take one case
37:48
Speaker 2: and just one case study and just put it up
37:51
Speaker 2: on a screen, this would be a good game to
37:53
Speaker 2: start with because the officiating was just brutal for both teams.
37:57
Speaker 2: For both it went, it went both ways. But it's unfortunately,
38:01
Speaker 2: it's not an isolated situation. You look across the league
38:03
Speaker 2: and you have this kind officiating all the time.
38:07
Speaker 1: I don't understand how they get as many calls wrong
38:09
Speaker 1: as they do when you consider you have twenty five
38:11
Speaker 1: twenty six cameras on the field, you have so called
38:15
Speaker 1: experts back in New York who go over this stuff
38:18
Speaker 1: and make the ruling and send it back down to
38:20
Speaker 1: the officials. And yet time after time they still get
38:22
Speaker 1: certain calls that Jackson Dary play should have been a fumble,
38:28
Speaker 1: the Darius Slayton play should have played with Slayton should
38:31
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. When they call offensive pass in appearance, no,
38:35
Speaker 1: it's hand to hand combat. How many times have we
38:37
Speaker 1: seen wide receivers in cornerbacks or safeties aren't hand battling
38:42
Speaker 1: like that, And it's not called it's either a catch
38:44
Speaker 1: or incompletion. But all of a sudden in this particular game,
38:47
Speaker 1: So the Eagles got jobbed a couple of times. You know,
38:51
Speaker 1: the Giants got jobbed a couple of times as well.
38:54
Speaker 1: And you know, I mean We're glad the Eagles won
38:57
Speaker 1: the game, but if certain players were called correctly, you know,
39:01
Speaker 1: I wonder if it had been a little bit more
39:03
Speaker 1: competitive game. And of course the Jalen Hurts when he
39:06
Speaker 1: extended the ball that should have still been a fumble.
39:09
Speaker 1: He was still moving forward. I believe it was Stevedough
39:12
Speaker 1: who ripped the ball out of his hands, and they said,
39:18
Speaker 1: momentumums stop. No, it had not, It did not stop.
39:21
Speaker 1: But yet they keep getting this stuff wrong time and
39:24
Speaker 1: time again. Now obviously looking at those players a little
39:27
Speaker 1: bit more extensively, Mike lengthen the game more and I
39:30
Speaker 1: know football, like baseball has done, is trying to quicken
39:33
Speaker 1: the game in terms of how long a game lasts.
39:35
Speaker 1: But the bottom line for me, I don't care which
39:38
Speaker 1: side of this get get the calls right. You have
39:41
Speaker 1: every element at your disposal to get these calls right.
39:44
Speaker 1: There's no excuse for getting calls wrong like that.
39:46
Speaker 2: And they still don't, and they still don't. You're exactly right.
39:49
Speaker 2: I mean that was when they when they finally pushed
39:54
Speaker 2: instant replay through after years of trying, and you know,
39:59
Speaker 2: text shred with the father of it, I mean, tech
40:02
Speaker 2: Shram was the guy that fought for it, fought for it,
40:04
Speaker 2: fought for it all the time. And you know, I
40:08
Speaker 2: like text. I knew him, and we used to talk
40:12
Speaker 2: about instant replay all the time and how it would
40:15
Speaker 2: if you really get it in, If you really get
40:18
Speaker 2: it in, it's going to change the game. And Tex said, yes,
40:22
Speaker 2: for the better because we'll be able to get the
40:24
Speaker 2: calls right. Well, it's been in all this time and
40:27
Speaker 2: you're still getting the calls wrong. And the one play
40:31
Speaker 2: that you just mentioned there, the tush push play, was
40:35
Speaker 2: clearly a fumble. I mean, it was clearly a fumble.
40:38
Speaker 2: I mean to me, it wasn't even close. And that unfortunately,
40:44
Speaker 2: if you're an Eagles fan, yes, you've got the benefit
40:46
Speaker 2: of the call right there, but down the road, if
40:49
Speaker 2: you look at the bigger picture, that's going to be
40:51
Speaker 2: one of the pieces of evidence they're going to bring
40:53
Speaker 2: to the Competition Committee at the end to get this,
40:56
Speaker 2: to get the tush push outlawed at the end of
40:58
Speaker 2: this year, because they're they're argument will be last year.
41:02
Speaker 2: They tried to go with it's an unsafe play there
41:04
Speaker 2: too many players get hurt. Oh, they didn't have the
41:06
Speaker 2: evidence to back that up. But their argument this year,
41:10
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to work. It's going to
41:12
Speaker 2: be it's too hard to officiate. You know, it's too
41:14
Speaker 2: hard to officiate. You know, you got you got linemen
41:17
Speaker 2: or in motion. There's false starts that you can't see
41:19
Speaker 2: with what everybody's all bunched up. Now you've got to
41:22
Speaker 2: play here where what should have been a fumble not
41:25
Speaker 2: a fumble? Well, who knows. Uh, that's that's going to
41:29
Speaker 2: be their argument, that it's too hard to play to officiate.
41:33
Speaker 1: Uh.
41:33
Speaker 2: And I honestly think that this time it will win.
41:36
Speaker 2: This time they'll win it and they'll get a thrown out.
41:39
Speaker 2: That's I I don't think there's a chance in the
41:42
Speaker 2: world that Tush Push is going to survive another one
41:45
Speaker 2: of those votes. I think it's going to go out
41:47
Speaker 2: on this on the basis of this argument, and the
41:50
Speaker 2: play on Sunday is going to be part of the
41:52
Speaker 2: as part of the evidence they're going to lay out there.
41:55
Speaker 1: Well, the bottom line is this Eagles team adds to
41:58
Speaker 1: their bye week six and two. Now they get time
42:01
Speaker 1: to mentally, physically, emotionally heal up and hopefully get some
42:05
Speaker 1: key components back for the stretch run. Because what a
42:08
Speaker 1: stretch run it's going to be is as you mentioned,
42:10
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate, going to lambeau Field Lines
42:14
Speaker 1: at home and then having to go down to Dallas. Now,
42:16
Speaker 1: say what you want to say about Dallas. They can't
42:18
Speaker 1: stop anybody defensively, but they're undefeated at home, and they
42:21
Speaker 1: put up a lot of points at home, and they
42:24
Speaker 1: can't wait to get another shot at the Philadelphia Eagles.
42:26
Speaker 1: You still have two games coming up against Washington, you
42:30
Speaker 1: still have to play Buffalo as well, So it's no
42:34
Speaker 1: easy road to hold for this particular team. Now we
42:37
Speaker 1: talk about getting bodies healed up, but they will also
42:39
Speaker 1: get some additional help with our old friend Brandon Graham
42:43
Speaker 1: deciding to leave the rocking chair and getting back into trenches.
42:46
Speaker 1: And boy do they need some help at defensive end,
42:49
Speaker 1: on the edge rushing aspect of it. Don't know how
42:51
Speaker 1: much Brandon can give them in terms of physical ability,
42:55
Speaker 1: but his value in that locker room and mentoring play,
43:01
Speaker 1: keeping the locker room light hearted, being a very playful,
43:05
Speaker 1: not disrespectful, very playful trash talker is invaluable to what
43:10
Speaker 1: this team will need for the stretch run.
43:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I mean it was you know, Merle
43:17
Speaker 2: Reese and I were having a discussion about this last week,
43:19
Speaker 2: and we both, like, you we we really love the guy.
43:25
Speaker 2: He's one of I've been covering this team for fifty years, literally,
43:30
Speaker 2: and I've seen a lot of guys come and go.
43:32
Speaker 2: But in terms of likability, in terms of just being
43:36
Speaker 2: a good dude, I mean, Brandon Graham is like right
43:39
Speaker 2: there at the top, at the top of the pyramid.
43:42
Speaker 2: I mean, he's that great a guy and we all
43:44
Speaker 2: we all feel that way about him. Uh. And we
43:48
Speaker 2: were talking about his decision to come back, and and
43:52
Speaker 2: Merle said, there's a part I love having him back.
43:56
Speaker 2: You know, he's great, you know, walking the locker room,
43:58
Speaker 2: he's just a burst of a burst of energy and sunshine. True.
44:02
Speaker 2: But Merle said, I there's a part of me that
44:05
Speaker 2: I just feel like he had the perfect exit, you know.
44:09
Speaker 2: You know, he came back, he played in the Super Bowl,
44:12
Speaker 2: he won the Super Bowl, and he had that great
44:15
Speaker 2: press conference and he just kind of rode off into
44:17
Speaker 2: the sunset, which is what every player dreams of doing,
44:20
Speaker 2: and he did it. And Merle said, I kind of
44:23
Speaker 2: just wish he had stayed there. You know, there's a
44:26
Speaker 2: part of me that just kind of wishes that he
44:28
Speaker 2: had taken that. And my feeling is, well, yeah, maybe
44:31
Speaker 2: he comes back this year and wins another one and
44:33
Speaker 2: he could do the press conference. You use the script
44:35
Speaker 2: of the last press comments that use it again'll be
44:37
Speaker 2: just as good. But in just planet past the personality
44:42
Speaker 2: thing and just get into the plane x as and nose.
44:44
Speaker 2: They just need some bodies out there, you know, on defense,
44:48
Speaker 2: and they need they need somebody that can just give
44:50
Speaker 2: them another twelve to even if it's just twelve to
44:54
Speaker 2: fifteen good snaps, Yeah exactly, that's you know, nobody's nobody's
44:58
Speaker 2: saying he's got to come in and play eighty percent
45:00
Speaker 2: of the snaps. Nobody's going to ask him to, nobody
45:02
Speaker 2: expects him to. But just if you just maybe fifteen
45:06
Speaker 2: good snaps that can make that can help. That can
45:10
Speaker 2: make a difference. In addition to all the stuff he
45:12
Speaker 2: brings you off the field, the leadership, which is a
45:15
Speaker 2: very real thing with this team, which you've got such
45:18
Speaker 2: a young defense. I mean, having another veteran guy or
45:21
Speaker 2: that really does help. But I think I think just
45:23
Speaker 2: a simple on the field, gets another pass rusher, I
45:28
Speaker 2: think you can help this team I didn't have any
45:30
Speaker 2: reservations about it, you know. And and he said himself,
45:35
Speaker 2: he said, look, I wasn't really sure I wanted to leave,
45:38
Speaker 2: you know, I felt like I could still play. But
45:41
Speaker 2: to Merrell's point, it just seemed like the perfect exit.
45:44
Speaker 2: And the Eagles seemed to feel like they were pretty
45:46
Speaker 2: comfortable with the guys they had, so okay, I'll go.
45:50
Speaker 2: But in his mind he could still play, And you
45:52
Speaker 2: know what, after fifteen years, if he wants to, if
45:56
Speaker 2: he wants to give it another shot, I'm fine with it.
46:00
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Well, you know, I
46:03
Speaker 1: can't wait to see what happens with this team over
46:05
Speaker 1: the last nine games. Should be exciting because there is
46:08
Speaker 1: a lot of ballast in the NFC and there's going
46:09
Speaker 1: to be a lot of teams jockeying for that number
46:12
Speaker 1: one seed down this stretch. That'll do it for this
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Speaker 1: edition of Birds Weekly, presented by the Inside of the
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Speaker 1: Birds Network. For my colleague and friend Raydinger. I'm Derek Gunn.
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Speaker 1: We will talk to you next time.