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Episode 107: PRESEASON COLLEGE FOOTBALL TOP 25 RANKING! · You Don't Know Ball Podcast

• Isaac Rowe: Twenty one. Yeah, that's good. Twenty one. Twenty one. You guys know we were arguing about SMU at eighteen, right? They still haven't come up yet. Yeah, because you took Louisville. Yeah. Yeah, so are we gonna put it Why the hell would you put Iowa at night or at twenty? 'Cause gu guess what? They don't even know what their quarterback is either. 'cause I like I trust Kirk Ferrets, man. I trust him. Wait a second. What do you think about this? A group of five team is gonna be in the top twenty-five. What's going on, dude on Old Ball Podcast Nation? We are officially all back here at thank you, Caleb. Thank you, Caleb, for doing your solo app. Caleb was awesome. Of course. Did y'all listen to it? I did actually. We did. yeah. What'd you all think? It's good. LeBron didn't go to the Warriors. yeah, I was wrong on that one. Dude, the Sixers, bro, yeah, that that's getting all shaken up now. I had them at nine. Yeah, there's no way they're nine now. Yeah. They already made a song about the him adding The LeBron James song is like they got JP and something else. All the LeBron fans are packing their suitcases. I love all the videos of people in their cars with the stuff in the backseat, like overpile. It's like just letting y'all know, I'm just waiting for LeBron to choose where we're going. Where we are going. And yeah, it's it's so funny. But just letting y'all know, LeBron and I are going to Philadelphia. I wonder what like LeBron's wife thinks like. She's like, okay, so we're l we're gonna stay in the California area, right? And like, no. We're going to Philly. We're going to Philly. We're going to Philly with some crack addicts. Whoa. Yeah. Bring your gun. He says it was for basketball happiness, which I do agree. He probably is good friends with Joel Embiid and Jalen Brown, he's probably s as somewhat close with, but I think For his daughter and volleyball, I think that probably played a part as well. there's I don't know the volleyball scene, like the youth volleyball scene or whatever in Philly, but I'm sure East Side has more volleyball stuff going on than California does. So I don't know. Should have gone back to California. I doubt that dude. I you know volleyball's big in California. Gigantic at least beach volleyball, yeah. But his daughter I mean I've just seen clips that he posts on his own Instagram of like his daughter playing indoor. So it's like I'm sure that had something They got a good squad, dude. And they got LeBron playing point guard next year, too. That's gonna be so much fun to watch. I miss LeBron at point, dude. god. The year they won the chip, he was playing point. So I miss it. It was good times. We'll see what happens in Philly this year as Kill Draymond signed in the Philly. Yeah, he already signed with the Warriors. He already signed back with the Warriors. Didn't he really? That would have been so funny if like two hours later Draymond's like accepts a vet minimum to the the sisters. He should have did that. We're going to Philly. Draymond's the biggest dick rider for LeBron. It's so funny. God. All right. So we're not here to talk about basketball NBA or trades or off season right now. That was fun. Thank you, Caleb, for doing that. But today we are giving our official preseason top twenty-five your guys' favorite episode to flame us on. So We're giving you another opportunity this great season. So Yeah, here we go. We I I mean, I did a little bit more research than I usually have. No. No. Mike definitely caught that. I've done a little bit more research than I've done in the past two years that we've done this, so hopefully I I get some more right than I do wrong in your opinion. But we'll see what happens when this episode gets posted and I post our graphic on Instagram and TikTok. So you did. I I I will. yeah. I haven't posted anything 'cause we haven't done it yet. That's right. Yeah. That's why we're doing it right now. Yeah. Type splish. But all right. So just to refresh your memory, this is what the top twenty five ended up last year as. Indiana was one, Miami was two, olmus was three, Oregon was four, Ohio State was five, Georgia was six, Texas Tech was seven, Texas A and was eight, Alabama was nine, Nerdame was ten. BYU is eleven, Texas is twelve, Oklahoma is thirteen, four Utah was fourteen, Vanderbilt was fifteen, Virginia was sixteen, seventeen was Iowa. 18 was Tulane, 19 was James Madison, 20 was U USC, Mich 21 was Michigan, 22 was Houston, 23 is Navy, 24 was North Texas, and 25 was TCU. So that's where we left off of last season. That was our last one. Last season. North Texas gonna suck this year. What the previous season was. Say that now, man. Say that now. They lost everybody. Everybody. Yeah. But we are Gonna make our predictions based off all the roster moves and returning predic percentages and w b coach win percentages or history, whatever you wanna call it. But basically we're gonna try to keep this as n non biased as possible. yeah. So we'll see if we succeed. So Notre Dame's ranked number one in my opinion. I'm just kidding. But there's a world. There's a world there's a world that UCLA is number one. But that's crazy multiverse talk. I don't know. I don't really know how you guys want to go about this. We could start from twenty five and work our way up. I have my prediction. It'd be easier if I s had like if we had like that tier list thing going, but I think we all can I'd say yeah, we go from one to twenty five. Yeah, don't you have some of the top twenty five ones highlighted? So we can I have we can just list those out. I have the no, I just have all the ones in my top twenty five that's highlighted. Why don't we just go why don't we just go one through twenty five and then we each throw a team out there and then we can argue. Yes, let's do it. All right. So you wanna start at one? Yeah. That's probably the easiest. Yeah. So Alex. Well you want to start or you want Jack to start? Jack start. All right, Jack. Who's your number one team in the country going into this season? Or at least Broio State. Brohio State. I have Oregon. I'm I'm gonna I'm going back and forth now because I am gonna go Oregon as well. buddy. That switched up, yeah. Alex? Wow, sure as shit not going to Ohio State. So Wow man. Alex is looking at these numbers for the first time, be like, well shit, I don't even know what I'm looking at. I mean, I like the Oregon pick, but I think it's kind of hard to be like Indiana just won the national championship, so who are you going with? I'll go Oregon. I don't want to get too bad. I feel like I don't know. For that one for me, it's like I wanted to pick Ohio State, but I feel like every single year the team that's predicted number one never ends up as number one. So I'm not gonna go with what the media's saying, like I'm fine picking Oregon at number two, just because They are stacked and I think their s their schedule favors them pretty well. Yeah. I feel like Ohio's I mean, they both have decently easy schedules for Big Ten. My number two pick will probably have an easier schedule and I think you know who it is. Jack Jack, why why why Ohio State number one? Dude, they got Julian Sane, Jeremiah Smith. You say the same thing about Oregon's team though. They have Oregon has great. Dante Moore. Well, I'm just gonna throw this stat out. He's great great loosely. I'm gonna throw this stat out here. So in returning production from last season, Ohio State was thirty first. So that they brought sixty percent of their production on the offensive defensive side back. But they're always sending guys the NFL great recruits in. Oregon kept is Oregon's eleventh and they have sixty six percent of their production returning. I'm not saying like, I mean, returning production is kind of a hit or miss stat because you know, if you you could be the worst team in the nation and bring a hundred percent of your production back, you'd still ass. So shout out all of that. Yeah, shout out all of that. But you know, like Oregon, we knew we know what Oregon was last year. They were really good. They were a playoff team. They're four the fourth highest ranked team in the country at one point. They got the Doors blown off them by Indiana, which ended up winning the national title. But they kept Dante Moore, they kept Decorian Moore, they kept Evan Stewart, they reloaded on the defensive line. They got Uy Angoliles. they got Bear Alexander still. They Bear Alexander. I mean, their defensive front alone is the best in the country. And we've already said that on I've said that on this podcast. So I just looked at like all the returning factors that they have on this roster plus I think they're pr decently high in no they were not. no they were twenty first. Okay, whatever. And r transfer portal moves this year. They they brought in Dylan Riola. But they didn't need to bring it much in if they had the And they didn't. So I'm I'm gonna trust Dan Lanning and put him at number one and see where they fit. This this is before they even play any games. So we're we're doing this off right returning production stats from the previous season and what we do know. So they played a good game against the team that went against the team like in the regular season too. Yeah, yeah. they went undefeated. It's hard to play a two team a team twice in a season and base it off like the two Perform performances like they lost at home against Indiana and then they got their k asses kicked in the Chick-fil-A bowl or whatever it was. So But you can also say the same thing for Ohio State for their return in production. They bring back the best player in the country, they bring back Jeremiah Smith, they bring back the the fourth highest rated, like fourth highest voted quarterback in the Heisman race. So I mean they got the pieces there. I don't know. They did lose their offensive coordinator, Brian. Hartline to USF as their head coach. But I say they upgraded. They brought in they brought in Arthur Smith from the Steelers. So he was fired by the Steelers Steelers last year. So I'm not sure what to think about that 'cause that Steelers offense was abysmal. Yeah. But it it college is a different game than the pros. So they still have Matt Patricia who was elite last year. He's elite because of the players. I like I I I like Ohio State more at two than I like them at one. And this is before they play any game, so we actually have no idea. But Yeah. I got nothing else to really add. I just think I like the the vibe of Oregon more than the vibe of Ohio State. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we all agree to w Oregon at one. We're gonna have to. Three V one. All right, alright. This is where I come in with Ohio State. Jack, I'll let you go and say who you have number two. Yeah, if Oregon's one, Ohio State's two. All right. Ohio State two, Caleb. I don't really like putting two big ten teams one and two like this, but I don't know who else would really go there. Notre Dame. I think. Yeah, but I just look at the schedule. I look at their schedule and I'm like, I don't know if I can I don't know if I can put higher than four. Bro They're gonna win they're gonna win every game. Okay, I'm not a they have they have a really favorable schedule. They have that one test at home against Miami. They have the one test on the road against BYU, and then they have another test at home against SMU. Those are the three toughest games on their schedule. That's bas that's why I'm putting them at number two, because they have no competition whatsoever. I mean, they yes, they play Miami, and yes they I guess you can say they play Michigan State too, but what can anybody tell me when the last time they were irrel they were irrelevant? No. So twenty twenty one. Yeah, well that was four years. Five years ago. This decade. Yeah, this decade. Michigan State brought back forty six percent of their production for And what did what did they do last year? They were still yes, but whatever. They they kept it somewhat close with Michigan for about three and a half quarters. Yeah. But they got a Chad at quarterback now. I mean head coach. I thought about putting Notre Dame at two, but I I I think I think that team's still pretty unproven to be for me to put at two right now. I even though they brought back the highest amount of production from last season, they're number one. They had seventy two percent. Seventy seven percent of that is their defense. Sorry, seventy seven percent of their production was on defense. So it's averages you can add up. But I don't know. I think I really like I think I trust Ohio State right now just because I know they have Julian Saiyan, they have Jeremiah Smith, they have Bo Jackson, they have I mean Bo Jackson. I think the qu the the question Bo knows? They have Bo Jackson or something like that. His name is Bo. Yeah, so I think the thing we have to look at is what that offense is gonna look like look like in that first couple weeks is they have Texas out week two in Texas, week two. So that's gonna be a tough game. Or and what they do with the missing pieces on their defense. But I still think they're number two ranked team in the country right now. Not saying their schedule is gonna be at favorable at all 'cause I think they have couple of tough games in there. So Ohio State does have actually a pr pretty tough schedule this year. They have they I think they play Oregon. I think they play what you said, Texas and they obviously have Michigan at the end of the year, but we'll see what they're like this year. So all right, so Ohio State at two, good with that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So Oregon and Ohio State one and two. Jack, do you wanna go or you want Caleb to start? Caleb start Caleb, what what do you have at number three? I'm between three teams. I think I I'm I'm I might be a hater for this, but honestly I like it's too bad I can't put three big ten teams in a row. I'm you can't, it's your rankings. It's not it's not very I Screw it. I I think Georgia. I think Georgia, honestly, they they need a bounce back from last year. And I don't know, I don't trust Texas. I still don't. I'm I'm high on Arch. I think he's a great quarterback. But I just don't they they dropped a couple of games and they were in some close games they shouldn't have been in last year. And Notre Dame, just with their schedule and everything, you never know, they could still drop like an SMU at home. type of game. I unfortunately I see that too. And you just you just never know. So like I'm comfortable putting Notre Dame at like four. But I like Georgia as like a surprise, like maybe they, you know, overperform a little bit and get the three seed or something like that and go back to the kind of team they used to be, you know? so I don't know. I that's my kind of shot in the dark pick. I like Georgia. I had I had Notre Dame at three. This is where that this is where they came in for me. I I I like what they bring in offense. They brought in three really they have two two really good stud receivers they brought in the transfer quarter of cla class with Quincy Porter and I'm forgetting his other name. Damn it. It'll come to me. But we have Jordan Fajon and yes, we have to make up for the missing production on the backfield, but it's just you're not gonna make that up with what Jeremiah Love and Jadarian Price were the season before. They were They were pretty they're gonna be really hard to replace, but you can try to make it up with the three guys that I believe that they have in the backfield right now. They have Aeneas, they have they have Kidron Young and they have Nolan James and like a a bunch of players that are capable to make up for that missing production that left. But I think they're gonna really start to air it out with CJ this year. And they brought all these reci high touted receivers from the portal to to s further cement that idea. And I think Al Golden. Not Al Golden. Mike Denbrock is really gonna wanna let it loose with him this year and see what and show off what Steve not Steve CJ Carr can do. So I on the defensive side, I really think I think we brought in a lot of good pieces. I mean, we still have the highest ranked returning production on defense the side ball defense of the side of the defensive side of the ball in the country. So I like I like them at three. I think the schedule is pretty favorable for them to stay there but for the majority of the season. But that's my thoughts. David, do they have the highest recruiting class as well this year? they had a really good recruiting class for the twenty twenty s eight and twenty s twenty twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight classes were really really solid. So it's okay. So it doesn't really affect what this season would be like. my number three is probably either Texas or Notre Dame. I mean either one works well for me. I mean you can't go wrong with How many pieces that I don't know. Texas is bringing back of Arch Manning and then they get the Coleman kid or whatever. Yeah, Cam Coleman. Cam Coleman. Yeah. So I mean and Shark is still the coach and throws, you know, does stupid ass play calls sometimes, but he's one you're gonna get your one bad play call from Steve's Arkeesian. Right. A game. Yeah. Halfback stretch, halfback toss and the one yard line against the number one rate goal line defense. Yeah, dude. Do it. It sucks it sucks because this one or this two and three, if we do put Texas at three, it's like so much of it depends on that week two yes result. 'Cause I mean, one season could go one way like Texas's did last year and they didn't end up making the playoffs, right? No. Could 'cause damn they were close too. They lost against Ohio State, Florida, and then they lost against They had a really close one against Mississippi State. They they almost lost that one, but they won it. It was another like another school that they shouldn't have lost to. I I can't rem it was Georgia never mind. They lost to Georgia. Yeah. So they But imagine they beat Ohio State. Yeah. If they w would have won in Columbus, it's like 'cause they beat Texas A that later that year. Colin Simmons, the defensive end for Texas said that they would have won the ship last year if they were in the playoffs, which is bullshit. It was bullshit, but like whatever. Anyone's gonna say that. Yeah. Could have had a Western dude saying that. Got Lance Taylor saying we're making the playoffs. Everybody's like, Yeah. But all right, so I have Notre Dame, you have Georgia, you have Texas. Texas. It comes down to Jack. I might be overextending my reach here with this one, but I think Ole Miss is my three. God damn, we're all different different corners of the You know, I d I like that though, Jack. I was thinking kind of the same thing with Ole Miss. Dude, they're getting Trinidad back. I mean they lost Lane Kiffin, but I They get all their play calling stuff was the reason that Old Miss was so good last year. And they got Keywon Lacey at running back, dude. I mean You have a if you have a sixtier guy leading your team, that's kinda Kind of OP. He's seventh, isn't he? He's seventh. Seven. He's a seventh year guy, because he went to college. His freshman year was twenty three fresh. Yeah. Year before us. Wow. Old Trinidad. Yeah, no, so he'd be a seventh year. That boy played against Vince Young, man. So I yeah, I like I had I thought about old Miss and within like the five, the one range, two. And I like what they saw without Lane Kippin, 'cause Pete Golding was a pretty decent p play caller for the defensive side of the ball, but they lost their offensive coordinator to L S U. It wasn't Lane, it was somebody else. I can't remember his name. It was some Charlie Wise or whatever it was. Charlie Weiss? Charlie Weiss. It was him. But it was his son actually. yeah. and he he went to L S U with him. So I I'm curious to see what Ole Miss does off I don't think they'll try to change anything too crazy but defensively it definitely helps bringing back Trinidad, the probably the one of the best quarterbacks or the best quarterback in the country. The running back and Kiwan Lacey who is the best running back in the country. So and they took Miami to the wire last year, man. They sh they should have won that game. They should have won that game. But you know, half their D line decided to lay down on the ground and if they did all that with a brand new coach as well, like not brand new but pretty new with their head coach on the way out. Like shows. Yeah, they had a lot of drama, dude. They had every reason to just sit down and lose that game against Miami and they fought their ball. They took them into overtime, man. Even Georgia. They had all the reasons in the world not to show up in that game. And took Georgia to the wire and beat that I mean B. Goalie did something Lane Kiffin couldn't do. They beat Georgia. So I mean th all the signs are pointing up for Ole Miss to have a pretty historic season again. So well I read something earlier too where it was like it's make or break. So it's like if you're gonna rank them somewhere, you might as well rank them high. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like a I mean it's kind of like a low risk, high reward pick, I think, honestly. Yeah. If everyone was saying it's make or break, no one can really hate on you for ranking them that high. But I just probably wouldn't put three. I would I I like like five. Yeah, five. I have them a little bit lower than five. So I I ha I right now I have Notre Dame at three. I and I just don't know if I see I'm willing to switch up with Georgia. I just don't like Notre Dame at three. I don't know what it is. I'm I'm a hater. I'm a hater. Jack doesn't like Notre Dame at I'll say it for what it All right. So I think that's fair. I will I will put Georgia at three and flip Notre Dame to four. You like the Georgia at three? I like Georgia at the I like Texas. I like Georgia better than Texas. I had Georgia at four, so I mean that's the closest thing. I like Texas better than. I guess you're right. I mean who Georgia even have Georgia doesn't really have any playmakers. They have Gunnar Stock. No, wait, don't they have don't they have two Q they're not even decided on a Q B. No, they do, they Gunner Stoc Stockton is quarterback. It but they don't have any playmakers outside. Like they have no receivers. And this isn't a Georgia team where you're used to seeing the like the Well, Georgia's never really been like a high electric receiver. Yeah, but they don't even have any of them. They don't even have like dominant pass rushers anymore that we're so used to seeing the like the last three years. They don't even have like a A highly touted pass rusher, yeah. Georgia's gonna be that team that probably sneaks in and like like I They're gonna be like Texas once last year. Georgia at five. And then no, honestly, I'm I like Texas at three, actually now that I think about it. Number four I would probably put. Number four can be Notre Dame. Yeah. That's fine. Okay. So we'll have I liked where the all the experts were putting Notre Dame at four, just because of the schedule, purely 'cause of schedule. All right, let me put let me keep this in my notes 'cause someone's gonna be posting this. At some point. all right, so one we have Ohio State. No, one's Oregon. Sorry, Oregon, my bad. I'm writing it down to Ohio State two and then we have Texas at three. I'm fine with that. All right, Texas at three. Four, I'm still gonna stick with Notre Dame here. I mean, I think this is where they're Notre Dame. This is where they're gonna stick for me, Caleb. Yeah, four's fine with me. I'm just agreeing with the experts on this one. Yeah, there's no way they if they j if they somehow drop a game though, then Their season goes. They fooled us again. They fooled us again, Jack. They get rid of Marcus Friedman. good God. All right. So five, I could put Georgia here. Yeah. I think Georgia's pretty good a solid five. I like Ole Miss over Georgia again. I also like Ole Miss over Georgia. You Jack's convinced. I like Indiana over Georgia. So old Miss I like Indiana over Georgia. Yeah. But I like Ole Miss over Indiana. I like Ole Miss over Indiana. They have the more proven quarterback. I like Miami more than Ole Miss right now. Indiana, I think, plays in a harder conference than Ole Miss does. I still like my they're probably about the same, but with Indiana, like Josh Hoover, bro, I'm not sold on the Josh Hoover train. I guess I forgot more on this. I have more on this later when Indiana actually comes up. But I if I don't want to jump Ole Miss over Miami right now. Bro, what? Miami lost so so much. They lost no not but they brought in the USF quarterback. They no Byron no, he went to Auburn. they brought in Darien Mensah from Duke. Yeah, that's what I meant. Yeah. They they're Yeah, but we can we can compare like quarterback battles all day long, but in reality, who's the best quarterback left that we could put there? It's probably Trinidad. Bryce Underwood. That he They're my six, bro. Are we really gonna put Ole Miss at five? All right, you know what? No, I th this is one you reach with, bro. Ole Miss is definitely a team. Ole Miss is gonna do good this year. I'd put old miss down in my loins. Dude, I had Ole Miss at eight. Hey, you were like this when with Kurt Signetti. You were like this with Kurt Signetti, bro. James Franklin's like the third best out of the league. my god, Fernando Mendoza? All right, all right. We'll put Ole Miss at five. I'll trust Trinidad and I'll trust Kevon Lacey to carry the shit out of that and Will Eccles. So they they have the pieces there. They could make also make the got a good defense. And they got I Will Eccles does play defense. They're gonna they're gonna come in with a chip on their shoulder too after their devastating loss they had in the playoffs. I do think they're motivated, so All I'll I'll put Now where the hell do we go from here? Cause there's like I there's five teams you could pick here. I put either I'm by I'm between Miami and Indiana right here. I put Miami above Indiana right now. Miami above Indiana right now. Okay. Yeah. But we still have Georgia. Yeah, Georgia's slipping and falling right now. I still put Indiana above India. If I put Georgia at three, I mean we did just have Oll Miss is SEC, right? Yeah. Yes. Put confidence in I feel like IU has to go here for me personally. I don't know. I got Miami here. There's obvious obviously still gonna be really good. They're the third best Big Ten team. It's like they're gonna have to go somewhere. So it's like I think just in terms of how it's all shaping up, it's Miami or Indiana for me. I I'm going with Miami right now. I like Miami. I think based off the momentum they had from last season, they fall just short. They ha they brought back their starting they brought back Mark Fletcher. They brought back they brought in Malachi Tony Darren Mensah and his leading receiver at Duke. They have Malachi Tony. They have I mean, they're re rebuilding the line, but they have Mario Cristobal. He he they've had a good line. Play in a favorable conference. Yes. Play in a favorable conference. I think s I think six is where we put Miami right here. is that old? Okay, never mind. Yeah. At six Seven, I'll put Indiana here. I would just like Indiana there. Yeah, Miami and then Indiana's good. I think which means Georgia's going at. I think and this is this is yeah, eight's where I would put Georgia now. But I you brought up you brought up Josh Hoover. So I said this before the podcast, but Curtis Rourke came in there, Indiana, had his best season of his career, led Indiana playoffs. He played at a Mac school. They bring in Fernando Mendoza the year after he played at Cal. Comes in, goes undefeated, wins the Heisman, best quarterback, goes number one in the draft. Josh Hoover has an interception problem, granted. But he also doesn't didn't have a defense and it didn't have a great offensive line or scheme at TCU that I feel like would fit his skill set. And he was a second he was the second highest person to throw RPOs last year. Yeah. So behind Mendoza. So I think this is pretty much a match made in heaven. I think Indiana's gonna be pretty solid this year and Hoover might have the best year of his career. So Hoover might lead the Hoosiers back to the playoffs. I'm good with Indiana at seven right now just because and they brought in Nick Marsh. Yeah. So I forgot about that guy. I missed And they have Charlie Becker. Greatest player of all time. Yeah. Besides go Connor Cook. God. That okay I can legitimately say Connor Cook was Draymond Green's probably my favorite MS. Dude, dude, did he play in his spring game? Is that what I saw? Dude, he suited up. He's such an idiot. All starts. He's like, Yeah, they punked me, man. I got on the line and the offense, the defense both went, and I I jumped outside. okay. So right now we have Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Nordame, Ole Miss, Miami, and Indiana. I think eight kind of leaves it up open for Georgia to take that spot. Yeah, I mean there's there's one more that we need to put down before we can really get back on track and that's gonna be Georgia. So like Georgia. Yep. Feel like Gunnar Stockton and the boys will they'll be just fine. I mean I feel like we've the last two years we haven't known like who the hell they have at receiver. And they haven't had a a thousand yard receiver at all since twenty I think no, it was like two thousand five. I saw that. They had Brock Bowers and they I don't they had Ladd McConkey but he never eclipsed a thousand yards. So I'm good with them running the ball. They're Kirby Smart's a defensive coach and they'll win if they have to they'll they'll find a way to win on offense if they're Yeah, dude. They're they're I don't know how the hell they do it, dude. It's ridiculous. They had a game who was it against last year? Was it Tennessee? No, it was like against an orange team. I think it was Tennessee. It might have been. Where they the Tennessee kicker missed a field goal to win it and I would have won that prediction. yeah. I think Georgia ended up winning that game in overtime. I was so upset. I was pissed because I I had Tennessee too. Yeah. Weren't we here for Georgia? No. no. We we were here for the episode, yeah. But all right. So that brings us to nine. I have Texas A right here. I think Marcel Reid and Mike Elko are in for a big year. Defensively, I think they brought in some good pieces. I mean, I don't even know. They bring back sixty five percent of their returning production from last season. They also have a pretty solid I thought they had a pretty solid trans reporter class. Yeah, they had the twelfth ranked best on the on two four seven sports, and then they had the fourth ranked best on three. So a pretty good trans reported class for them. I think they have all the pieces that they need and they I guess the schedule's a little bit tougher than it was last year, but I still think they're talented. Yeah, they still have the pieces that get the job done. So I have at nine. Mike Elko is not a bad coach either. Yeah. So I I have like Texas A and here. It's the I mean, that's like the last one that I'm like, okay, yeah, this is obvious for me, like where this should be go. But like from nine through twenty five I'm just like, I could see a few switching here and there but yeah, Texas A and I definitely think we'll have a I mean they off obviously had a horrible, horrible, horrible playoff game. I mean, just dog shit. But I mean it wasn't dog shit. They lost to the runner up. But it was my turn. And then again, when we were watching that when we were watching that, they were the seventh seed and they're like, no way, Texas AM loses to whatever they were. Ten seed. Yeah. And then they did. And then they did. And then Marcel Reed threw a pick in the gradually ends up. They did. Damn it. But all right. So I'm good with having Texas and here. I'm good with them. I was gonna reach and say Texas Tech, but Well, that's that's a big reach. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I had them at ten. Based off this, yeah, it's not the it's not a crazy reach, but I just think they could dominate besides like BYU, I just think they could dominate the big twelve and be ranked high. Like be a team that, you know, ranks high but loses in the playoffs like first round ultimately. Just 'cause they're gonna have You know, their defense is not as good as it's gonna be right last year, but I think their offense can pick up where it left off, so bar barring injuries. They seem they get their quarterback thing figured out. Brandon Swordsbury's gone. He's done. No, they have the they still have the backup though. Like Hammond or something. Yeah, Joe or Jo Joel, Joe Hammond like that. Some J Hammond. Jack Hammond. Jack Witt they call. I like Texas Tech's all white uniforms are probably The black ones are dope too. Isn't it isn't it the Patty Mahomes uniforms too? Like the brands. Yes. Yeah. But all right, so Texas AM it is Texas AM. Marcel Reed and we dude, Marcel Reed is a dope QB to watch play though. He is fun. I love That game against Notre Dame, you can't lie. It would probably be an amazing in-person game to watch. I was pissed, but I was like, this dude's nuts. And I I went in I went into that season last year scared of that game because I knew he was a playmaker. And like he reminds me of Lamar, RG three, all those guys. But it was definitely Lamar. It was definitely it was definitely every bit of the part last in that game. all right, so this is where I have Texas Tech for me. I even with like Brennan Soresby being gone and and they still have a huge investment they brought into that portal. I mean, God. They were the on two two two four seven sports, they were sixth ranked. And on on three they were fourth ranked and the Transfer Porter. So they put some work in the portal this year. So I I don't know. They have Dave don't they okay, Alex, who do you have over there? Nope. Oklahoma. god. Oklahoma. I have them jumping Texas Tech here because this is based off just the stupid ass video game that I was playing of Oklahoma two days ago. But they're so hard to beat. I think they bring back a lot of pieces. They obviously have John Matir's gotta stay healthy. Matir yeah, Matthears back. I mean So Tanya's there. This yeah. So I like O'Callm at n ten. They brought in David Stone from Texas Tech. He's now playing in defense for the Stuners. Mm-hmm. So Matthews one of those guys though who could really carry this program way higher than what most people think their ceiling would be. Mm-hmm. I think he what is he a fifth year, sixth year? He was a senior last year. Yes. So he's still Kick in. did they him another year 'cause he was hurt for most of it or No, I don't know why he got another year, but everybody's getting more years. They're giving years out like stubbed your toe in third grade and then. We're gonna figure out we're gonna obviously we're gonna figure out what Oklahoma is pretty early. I mean they play week two, they play Michigan, and then week four they play Georgia. Yeah. So I mean it's gonna be pretty quick when we find and then they play Texas. I think they have a bye week in the middle of the Yeah. I I just don't like placed in Oklahoma right by another SEC team. That's why I'm gonna stick with Texas Tech here. Also, I had them a nine, so it wouldn't make sense if I didn't put them here. So I'm just gonna keep saying tech until we get them locked in. I like tech at ten. But I I just like a big twelve team slotted in there in the top ten. I think one of them makes sense, like BYU or Texas Tech. I think they're both good squads. Really? Really? I think BY Bro, you're a fan of Bear like that? Yes, he is. Dude, Bear? Dude, Bear's crazy Bear's crazy on his legs, but he doesn't have that dual threat. Is he kinda injured injured? Bear was making headlines. As a true freshman, he was, bro. I'm not sophomore year. If he doesn't have a sophomore slump, exactly this dude might be a Heisman candidate. Yeah. BYU went into that last season worried about their quarterback situation and then Bear Bachmeyer ended up winning freshman awards and being the best quarterback one of the best quarterbacks in the entire league. Anywhere's forty-seven. Anywhere's forty seven. Blue collar boy gonna work hard. Reminds you of Titus a little bit. I I love I love BYU and Bear Bachmeyer, but I don't love them that much to put him inside the top ten. So I'm st I'm sticking with Tech. I think they're over tech. Tech lost two big parts on their defense. Yeah. And their quarterback. But they still brought in a lot. There's a reason there's there's a reason they're ranked higher in all these other prediction websites than BYU, but it's unproven, bro. You might have a point. I do think BYU is better than fifteen than what most of these other sites are saying. I do think in the league that they play in and the Big Twelve last year, Tech? Tech. Yeah. And who got second? BYU. But they got blown out like both times. New season. New day. Tech had a lot last year. Yeah. And then Jacob Rodriguez, what was he? Fifth in Heisman voting. David Bailey. And David Bailey was a crazy edge. Second pick in the NFL draft. The front was nuts. I still like Tech at 10. I'm not moving. I have to stick with it because I already said them for nine. So Caleb and I outweigh you guys. So Tech is at 10. Three Texas teams in the top ten. Bullshit. All Yeah, where are we going next? Fucking TCU? No, I had SMU. I had I had Oklahoma here. I had Oklahoma. Baylor? I DJ you DJ Lagwood's there. James Madison. I have I have Oklahoma here at eleven. I think I like Alex said, Matir coming back is huge. Like Tanya is coming back. It's pretty big. I feel like he's healthy now and that offense will be clicking like it was early September last year to see if they could do that the entire season this year. Defense, obviously, you've got Brent Venables who's leading it and he's always gonna been a pretty stud of a defensive coordinator. This is hard, dude. So I have I have Oklahoma at eleven. This is really tough. Yeah. All right. Who you got? I I'm going Bama above Oklahoma. I trust that defense all day long, but Mateer, not only with the injuries, but also some of the decision making. Like I think he's got some Hoover tendencies. With and also that's with a much more talented offense than Hoover was rocking with TCU. So I as just team wise, also it's like Lane who's what's his name? Caitlin the Boer? Calen the Boer. I think this is his make or break it year at Alabama. You know Alabama expects greatness and he didn't deliver it the past two seasons. So Especially I think it's kinda like an old miss situation. Like I think I don't know. Like they're gonna have to be better than Oklahoma, and I think they will be, so I'm gonna put them above Oklahoma. I think they're gonna be I I like them at eleven. I wasn't even thinking Bama, but god, we're not putting I do think Bama over Oklahoma. Good God. Mateo is so injury prone you cannot Bama has Bama has a s new starting red shirt freshman quarterback. Yeah, Keelon Russell or he's a five star, bro. Yeah, but look what he did against Indiana. Nothing. They have three total like games started in between the two. Well, Alabama is exactly it was Barry Bachmeyer had zero games started last year. Look what he did. Yeah, that's true. That's true. It's not the Asian name. That's Bear. It's Bear. Yeah, he's got a cool ass name, man. They're still deciding who the starter's gonna be for their first week. Alabama is. That was the team, not Georgia. That is a big question. I feel like Ryan Williams is gonna have a breakout year and you could stick after his sophomore slump. Yeah. Yeah, he he'll have a big year. You could stick me back there and I could go fuck it, Ryan Williams down there sometime. It's gonna be a sixty yard bomb to a touchdown because he's gonna do some shifty shit. Yes, I think Ryan Coleman Williams is gonna have a big year. No, I don't think they're gonna ahead of Oklahoma. But Jack, is that what is that who you would put at eleven? That's who I'd put at So you where would you put Oklahoma then? Don't tell me thirteen. God no guys. Who do you have at twelve? BYU. God bless the nerd. All right, well, it's out. No, I had Bama. You had Bama? I'm fine with sticking with Bama. I think it's the third year. I got Oklahoma. All right. So do I. So we're third year, third time's a charm. I think we gotta flip a coin on this one. Yeah. I cause I like Oklahoma too. I just you can't can you trust I get it, we got it. We gotta say like too many what ifs, man. All right. All right. Well we leave we're leaving it up to fate, so if you see our graphic on Friday morning and look at it and be like, Why the fuck is Bama at eleven? It's because this dumbass corner right here. NBC Oklahoma there and go, What the fuck? my god, what is it? Heads. It's heads. let's go! My god, the graphic is safe. Shitty ass coin flip, we're gonna need another one. I I tried doing it like you know how like people. Dude, that was a really dramatic roll. This is always gonna land on heads. I'm like, okay. Well so you did it like that. I did it like this. Dodgeable, dude. I did it. Dodgeable at that. Did it like the gay NFL refs, just did it like Trump. Alright, so Oklahoma is officially at eleven. I have LSU at twelve. What? Now you're really reaching. Crazy. I get it. They they did gain a lot, but I think you're really reaching with I put BAM over BYU. So let me say let me say these like three rankings that I have. Penn freaking state over BYU over twelve, thirteen, and fourteen. I had LSU, BYU, and Bama. And those are pretty interchangeable for me because I don't really care. I mean, I think I gotta rock sticking with Bama, honestly, because I just had them over Oklahoma. But then it gets to my issue of like, okay, how many SEC teams are they gonna really group there? Like that. There's gonna be lot. Do you think they're gonna be all like next to each other like that though? Yeah. last one right here. They're always like that. really? Okay. I d I can't remember from last year. Last year was I know I don't know what it was last year, but it was pretty it was pretty close. I mean I guess only what two or three of them are making the playoff anyway. So I don't know. I like Bama. Alright, I could I could live with putting Bama I just liked him better than LSU but Lane why I guess why do you say that? Just it's L S U as a rap suit always on their on the right overshot and underperformed. Yeah but they got Lane now. Yeah, but Lane's gonna take Lane. They Lane. They got Sam Levitt. Lane ain't gonna beat Bama. Sam Levitt can only be as good as his whatever products he has around him. Hell Lane ain't even gonna beat Oklahoma. All right. They might not even beat Or Ole Miss. They might not even beat Ole Miss. All right, so you have Alabama at twelve. I don't even know Alabama. Alex, you have Alabama at twelve? I don't even know who I have out there. Yeah, probably. We'll put Alabama at twelve. Thirteen, I'm good with putting BYU here. I like BYU. Yep. Fourteen could be LSU. I could put I could I will live with putting LSU at fourteen. Caleb you have at BYU at thirteen. I actually Bob Chesney and UCLA thirteen Bishop Sycamore. Bishop Sycamore Cow. give me BYU. Let's just let's just get her get her done. That means they overperformed, but I can see it happening. Fourteen, this is where I I'm gonna put LSU. I don't think they could drop much lower than the teams below them right now. So LSU guys. Caleb. boy. good God. Here we go. I feel like LSU is a good like seventeen. I feel like man. The only one I could see is that you put over them right now is US C. I'd put USC over L S U. I don't have USC that high. USC would be I have them under Michigan. No. That's crazy. Michigan I have Michigan, I have Michigan at fifteen. I I'm pretty solid at sixteen. Because who would we have if if we do L S U and then I would put You're you're gonna put you're gonna put L S U under USC and Michigan. No, I'd put USC L S U Michigan. Gimme USC. So we're moving USC up to fourteen. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Fuck it. Give me L S U at And then y'all ready for this? I think LSU going down there after them is fine. Just because we've seen Caitlin Bohr was a great coach going from Pac twelve at the time to the SEC, taking over arguably the best program in the country at the time. Yeah. And we saw how hard it was of an adjustment. I mean, okay, well yeah, Lane Kiffin's going from SEC to S E C S E C but I don't know, I just think that's a tough tougher adjustment than a lot of people think. I don't think L S Us g they're gonna be playing the best of the best every single week. And I that's Brian Kelly couldn't do it. USC's got USC doesn't have a defense. So but they got Jaden Novava. J Jaden Mayava who do they know? Who else can you name one more player on that team? They got the West Coast to their advantage. Alright. They're gonna beat every West Coast team. Wait, don't they have their play well? They're not gonna beat every West Coast team. Oregon's gonna beat them. Oregon's gonna dog walk them. UCLA might walk in there and beat them. They ain't West Coast or Northwest Coast. Good God. my God. Here we go. Speaking like a true Cali over here. Northwest Coast. Michigan's gotta no, wait. So who else has gotta go out there? Ohio State has to go out there. I think USC this year. There's two losses right there. Whatever. We already named four for LSU. Yeah. All right. So I have USC at fourteen and then LSU at fifteen. Is that where we kinda ended up? Yep, I think we agree. All right. Sixteen is where My boys I'm reaching as fuck with this one. You've got to be shit. All let's start with Caleb. Let's see what he says. Penn State. No. No. It's not a huge reach. I had them at seventeen. I th I think it's a reach just to put them over Michigan. Yeah, they're under Michigan. He had Michigan at fifteen. Yeah, I had Michigan at fifteen. I'm going Penn State at fifteen. Er wait, would they be sixteen? They would be sixteen now. I think I think I like Penn State. A new fresh coat of paint on the coaching staff, I think is what this team they're still really talented. And now this is like I'm gonna I'm kinda putting I know it's gonna end up being Michigan. I'm just saying my case for Penn State being here is I think James Franklin was the problem. I think I think he was the problem for way too long. They lost a lot of close games that they probably should have won. And they also lost a lot of close games because of Drew Hallard, you know. but they have someone new there now. playing quarterback. They still got a lot of great transfers. their offense and defense is fairly well balanced, I think, and you know, that home atmosphere. Penn State cyclones. Like honestly, I was arguing to put Penn State over US C because USC has to go play their whiteout this year. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. I did see that. Honestly, I might I would probably flip that. US or Penn State over US C if we do rock with this, but I like I like Penn State here, but I also wouldn't mind Michigan too, just based off Penn State and Michigan play each other too. Yes. Yep. But they play in the big house. Yeah. I like Penn State. I think Matt Campbell's a really good coach. I think Racco Beck's a really good quarterback. They brought b basically brought the entire Iowa State. Yeah, they got that really good roster. Yeah. So ac they all went with Matt Campbell. So they're good they're gonna be de they're gonna be solid. They're gonna be a solid team. But you can't solid enough to win the conference, but solid enough to You could keep me up there. You could say the same thing for Michigan though. You could say like they brought it Sean Moore was the problem. They brought in a established winning coach with Whittingham. They brought in like Jason Beck, who led a really high scoring offense at Utah. They brought in a defensive coordinator and Jay Hill from BYU the previous season who led them to a big tel big twelve championship appearance. I think Michigan's got as maybe a little bit more or as much as Penn State going for them right now. Only question marks are is what's Michigan's offensive line's gonna look like and what Michigan's defensive line is. No, the question how much Bryce Underwood is. What the Bryce gonna look like this year? Well, I'm just saying that too. I was obviously I was gonna say Bryce Underwood, but offensive line when we were there when I was there at the spring game, they look tiny as shit. It's still a spring. I mean a lot can happen. Yeah, they have a lot of time. They gonna grow. They have a lot of time. John John hit their girls playing. Yeah. I mean, how many of the Michigan starters were actually playing? Not not a lot. Literally all of them were done by the first quarter. Yeah. The first drive. All right. Who do you think, Jack? All right, hold on. I'm gonna say something crazy here. I think an ACC team's gonna wiggle their way into this spot. Good God. Duke? I seriously do. Clemson? No way. I think they could. No way. They don't even have an They don't even have Gate Klumnick anymore. Clemson or Virginia. Good God. I don't even have them listed. The next A C C team I see Virginia doesn't even have Chandler Morris. Would that be SMU? Or are they S C C as well? A C too. I think there's gonna be an S C C team or an A C C team. The well the next one that would make sense would be either SMU or what what conference is Missouri at? Louisville S C. I'd put Louisville ahead of Clemson or Virginia. I do like Louisville. I like SMU though. But I like SMU. I don't know. Louisville and SMU are very interchangeable to me. Yeah, but I'm not putting them at sixteen. Actually, I'm not putting it there's not gonna be an ACC team between all that. There they are. There is. There is. At seventeen, it's gonna be Louisville. Crazy as hell. That's a big reach. Well, where do you want to put Penn State then? I think you put I would put Penn State in the next spot that we have up, which is what we're We have sixteen We have 16 and 17 up in the air right now for Michigan and U Penn State. SMU Michigan? And SMU. Well, he just said SMU. So we're not putting SMU in the teens. Dude. Where are they? Well, what are are you what are you two picking? It comes down to you two then, because it would be two to one to one. I put Michigan there. Did you put Michigan? Come on. Okay, yeah. Well, there it is. Honestly, I like Jack's ideas though with that. But I'm honestly, I would go Michigan, Penn State, then SMU. They got me thinking too about SMU. I don't think Penn State would be above an ACC school. They have they were gonna have to, but Louisville's gonna be above SMU. What does Louisville have though? Maybe they brought in after SMU beat Notre Dame ass. Fucking go. Louisville brought in Lincoln Keene Holt from Ohio State. They still have Huh? Is that the quarterback? Yes. Their second string quarterback that lost to Julian Saiyan. J Julian Saiyan. They have Jeff Brahm is still there. Who else did I put on my list for Louisville? wow, I don't think I put a single soul on here. Awesome. Single soul you weren't thinking about conferences, buddy. No, I was not. But I still like Louisville more than SMU. Yes, SMU has Kevin Jennings. Yes, they're they're gonna be solid, but they're not gonna be teens solids straight out of the s gates of the season. Who do they play weekly? They will over S E C and Big ten schools that have got two or three losses. Okay, well let me say this. So obviously we have either Penn State at seventeen, we have Louisville, we have Utah, we have Iowa, and we have SMU. That that's w that's what I add as my next five. Penn State. I think whoever we think the second in the A C C is gonna be will be ranked in the teens. That's why I have Louisville there. I got SME. Well we still have some more teens spots left. We have My next spot is Penn State and so did Alex just said Penn State as well. So yeah, Penn State at seventeen. I I think them and Michigan are gonna be neck for neck the whole year. Yeah, all right. Penn State's at seventeen. That's I'm going with Penn State. That's fine. Eighteen, Louisville. Louisville. I guess it just kinda comes down to like I do like Louisville's program and I remember that they have a really good running back duo from last year that I'm not sure he's there anymore. It's like Isaac Brown or something. Isaac Brown, he's still there. He's still there. He's still there. But is that enough to like probably enough to dominate the ACC besides Miami. Yeah. But wait, is this SMU where we talk about or Louisville But these online things I'm looking at all have SMU over Louisville. So what's that mean? They're wrong? SMU gonna beat that ass. All right, let me see. Let me look for this. all right. So SMU has a twenty twenty second highest returning production from last season. So Louisville's got them there, 'cause I don't think no, sorry. SMU's got Louisville there. Louisville is sixtieth. But if Louisville did a lot of hard work in the paint for Trans reporter. So they got on three they're ranked number two. And then on tw two forty seven, they're ranked thirteenth. So honestly, if you want to put SMU there, w where was SMU in this? Hold on, let me check this let me check this out for you guys. wow, I don't even see SMU on this. Hmm, weird. But wait, sorry, they're thirty second and two forty seven and they are 25th on on three. So take it as you leave it. I still like Louis. I like SMU going down there. I think Louisville's the second best team in the ACC right now. Do we gotta look at schedules? Do you want to? I mean it this is before they even play a game. We're not predicting what they're gonna finish, like we're predicting where they're gonna start. I got SMU. Huh? I got SMU. Good God. Please pick please pick Louisville so we can flip a coin. Caleb, if you know what's good for you, you know Louisville's a better team here. Caleb, he ain't gonna do anything to you. You want your twenty four birthday shots? Why is it up for me? How did it get to this point? man. Masculine mail. You're either gonna get the the nice shots that I get you from the bar, you're gonna get the masculine man shots from the I thought you were about to say back shots. No, it was masculine male? They might get Yeah, they would, wouldn't they? Isaac sent him his address. Whatever. He lives at pull up for a meet and greet. Barton Mobile. Meet meet and greet. I say Dunham's home address. give me let's flip the coin on this. Give me Louisville, let's flip the coin. Hey God. You know what? No matter where there's coin lands, you're a good one. And then like flipping it like just flick it with your thumb. Do it like this. Look. Wait, wait, decide what's who, what's what? Okay. Head is SMU, Tails Louisville. Let's go! Let's go! Two for two! Sorry, fellas. That shit sucked. That was a good flip, though. That was a good flip. God, I can't believe I won that. I mean, Caleb and I won. I started on heads and it landed on tails, I guess the myth is wrong. Wow, I can't believe we were rooting for Louisville the whole time. Can't believe it. We were. We are going to Louisville. Alright, so 19, I had Utah. No. Virginia Tech, they James Freddy. Hell no. Get out of here. I got out of here. Virginia Tech, they got who so I just heard four different teams. I heard SMU, I heard I didn't say anything. You didn't say anything. I was a troll. I said I said Utah. I say Tennessee. What are we talking about? Keep your mouth shut. And Jack said Virginia Tech. I was kidding. He was trolling. I was also trolling. Wait a second. Virginia Tech brought back sixty nine percent of their I like Georgia Southern. You know you don't. I really like I really like the school of the deaf and blind here. Give me I like Southern Miss. Give me Jasonville State. Where are we? Nineteen? We're at nineteen. Give me Washington here. yeah, I forgot about that. Good. There's the fourth different team. I like Washington. Give me Iowa. No. Okay, so there's five. There's there's five different teams. I think there's four people here. Huh? Missouri. I don't know. What the? Hell are these suggestions coming from? No, I like Washington only because I like their schedule. They have three really hard games that they're probably gonna lose, but if they only end up losing three games to some of the best teams in the Big Ten and country, I think they could be ranked top twenty. And obviously we're looking at schedules, right? But I don't know. if we're ranking preseason whatnot, I think I Washington has a favorable favorable schedule, you know. They pull off an upset. I think Washington's ready to make a bounce back on the map. How many do they bring back? They are they're actually up here. I saw you they're actually the top a hundred. They brought back fifty one percent. Let's go, dude. So w Washington brought back sixty five percent of their fifteenth ranked in the country. Washington. What did you say? Washington. No, before that. You said Brother said Missouri. Tennessee said Missouri. Missouri brought back forty ninth forty nine percent. What about seventy cents? What about my boy Tennessee? Tennessee, okay. This is where it gets r rough for you. wait shit. Maybe they didn't bring lose that much. wait, are they even in the top a hundred? I don't even see them. wait, never mind. They bring They brought they brought they were twenty six and they brought sixty two percent. But Alex, the f the argument I have against you, do you know who their starting quarterback is or who they have at It's the kid from last year. No, he left. I like that. Joey Aguilar left. really? He got denied. that's right. He got denied. No, I don't know. Yeah, okay. Washington. They don't even know. Wash. Josh Hipel. What Washington? No, that you just said the Tennessee coach with the Washington team. That's the quarterback. No, no. Josh Hypel's gonna start at quarterback. Damon Williams is no, I'm saying that Josh Hipel is a play quarterback for Tennessee and Okay. All right. Washington's gonna Washington. He's a new coach for them. So I think Morgan Scaley is gonna keep the keep that program what it we all know and love it is. It's Utah. They're tough, they're physical, they're gonna win nine games at most. They're gonna be really competitive. Yeah, but they lost all their good players to Michigan. All right. So who are we putting at Washington? Washington. Just put Washington there. Get freaking mogged, everybody. I I said that team. All right, Washington has appeared in the All right, 20. I had Iowa. No. I have Utah. I like the immediate. No. I'm good with Utah there. Okay. You know, I'm I'm good with Tennessee here. Tennessee's good. They're gonna be fine this year. I just didn't think they were gonna be better than Washington. I I was never clowning on the Tennessee pick. I think they're gonna be good, yes, but I don't have them for another three spots. Why? Why would you put Iowa 'cause they don't even know who their fucking quarterback is. How do you give you a feeling like, yeah, they're gonna be really good, but you have no idea what their fucking offense is gonna look. Just Josh Hype's a great coordinator, but guess what? It might take two or three quarterback starts to figure out what they're doing. I like Washington. So you pick Utah? I mean I'm good with Utah at twenty. I like Utah Utah. All right. Utah. Twenty one. Yeah, that's good. Twenty one. Twenty one. You guys know we were arguing about SMU at eighteen, right? They still haven't come up yet. Yeah, because you took Louisville. Yeah. Yeah, so are we gonna put it Why the hell would you put Iowa at night or at twenty? 'Cause gu guess what? They don't even know what their quarterback is either. 'cause I like I trust Kirk Ferrets, man. I trust him. Wait a second. What do you think about this? A group of five team is gonna be in the top twenty-five. Fuck no. No, this is prepared. At some point, yes. But not now. Bullshit. I have I I have a all right, Jack. Tell me the group of five team that's gonna be up there. Fucking Boise was in it a couple years ago. I have SMU. And Genty fucking left. I have SMU. Weren't they ranked like eight or two at the start the year? Yeah, because they had their midget at quarterback. They had Maddox Ben Maddox or whatever his name. Maddox Mason or whatever. Is he still there? I don't yes. No. Maybe. I don't know. All right, so are we putting I ha I would put SMU here. Because they were at eighteen, but now we're down to twenty one. They still haven't been brought up. SMU. Okay. Caleb? I got Tennessee next. Actually, yeah, SMU's fine. All right. Twenty two. Tennessee. I had Iowa. Wait, we gotta be careful with these. We only get four more picks, fellas. Chill. We're getting I'm not putting Iowa at twenty two. I got Washington. Yo, we're not thinking about we're not thinking about Auburn enough. Auburn is gonna get the fucking shit bottom of that. I think I think we're thinking about Auburn just about as we should. two lanes gotta go there. Dude, we're not putting a group of Where the fuck are you getting two lanes? Lost John Summer to Florida. Fuck it! Kansas! No fuck you guys. No, no, no. Okay. Look at this is who I am. Dulane was 18 to end the season. Yeah, and then they lost all their players to Florida. They'll be ranked. There's gonna be a group of five team fucking ranked. No, we're not doing that. All right. No, we're not doing something logical, guys. Fuck. Put Navy there. No! We have here the five teams. Georgia Tech's not even. Here are the five teams that I have left. Clemson's better than SMU. No, they're not. What are we doing? No, they're not. It's debatable. They're not better than SMU. But as it says so. Who says that? CBS? Yeah. All right, whatever. Clemson's at twenty six. Here the five teams that I have personally left. I have Iowa. I have TCU. I have Tennessee. I have South Carolina. And I have Houston. Really? You're gonna tell Lenora Sellers, Dylan Stewart, and Nick Harbour what they do last year. It's New Year, damn it! Seven fucking years. New Year! Are you just saying that TCU is in this? And we just said TCU's offense didn't support Hoover enough. They got a quarterback that won't turn the ball over. Okay, who's the how do we know? Okay, then we're saying that Indiana's gonna be the number 14. From where? From Harvard? From Harvard. From Harvard. What the fuck does he know about football? He went to a really good school. He's really smart. Are we saying that okay, you're saying that they got a really good quarterback? So we but we put Hoover on Indiana and they're four or three or whatever the hell they are. No, we put him at eight. No, we put him at six. Six. Top seven seven. Yeah. They were seven. Damn it. Alright, so who are we putting at twenty two guys? Definitely not DCU. They're not even right. I feel like the only the only one that's safe to put there is Iowa. That's what I wanted to put originally. No. Why didn't you just say that? I said Iowa. Why don't you just say that now? They said no. Jokers? Well, you want me to say no Somebody get these beggars out of here. I like Iowa here. Okay, so we didn't now you're like Iowa here busted my balls. No Breaking my bows, guys. Fuck you, Cal. Alright. Alrighty, so we're down to twenty three right now. I would be okay. I would be okay with putting Tennessee here. Okay. Yeah. But I would like it it's just a Big Ten and SEC fucking rankings. It is, pretty much. But I would also be okay with putting South Carolina and Houston. Bro, South Carolina's Houston's a good thing. South Carolina is not gonna be ranked. Houston's like Houston, I don't know. I put Nebraska over South Carolina. I don't hate Houston. hell no. I hate Lenora Sellers is still there. Houston's C C still there. No, Houston is big twelve. Yeah, I don't hate Houston. Houston can go twenty five. I think we locked them in the That's where I had them. That's where I had them. Okay, I have Houston there. Who's twenty three then? I had Tennessee there. Yeah. Who's twenty four? Yeah. South Carolina. No. Fuck no. South Carolina is not twenty four. Isaac South Carolina. So wait, wait, can we go back to twenty three? Are we putting the t are we put are we putting Tennessee at twenty three? Yes. Yes. Okay, well then Missouri's gotta go twenty four. I think they're sneaky. I mean, what did they bring back? Well, who else was who else is going to go there? We're not gonna Clemson. We're not putting Florida, we're not putting Illinois, we're not putting Arizona, we're not putting Kansas State. Delane. Vandy. Missouri brought back forty nine percent of their returning production last year. Screw it. Auburn. Do Auburn. I trust Byron Brown. No. Auburn's gonna win five fucking games this year. Auburn is gonna suck ass. Not they're not gonna suck, but they're gonna be better than they were last year, but they're not gonna be ranked. Byron Brown cannot throw a football. What do you mean by James Run? Yeah, he ran. You saw that week one game last year? JMU. W what are we talking? Billy Napier is at JMU right now. That's a group of five teams so bad in there. There's gonna be a fucking group of five teams. When the season ends, yes. When it starts. No. It won't be when it starts. You guys are on fucking crash. Alright, wait, guys, guys, guys. What about South Carolina? Fuck no. Alex, that's a idea. That's a great idea. That's a great idea. It's a great idea. It's a great idea. Yeah. Fuck it. Let's put Western in there. They'll win the same amount of fucking games as South Carolina. Alright. Fine, let's put UCF there. Let's put fucking Toledo in there. Virginia Tech I like Georgia Tech still. They're not even in the top fifty from never mind. There they are. You want to put UCLA at twenty four before they even play a game? No. No. No. Okay, let's put Tennessee there. Twenty put Tennessee there. I mean shit. I mean South Carolina. No. No. Don't my god, me. my god. All right. Florida. No. Dude, Florida Florida is gonna be better. Florida's gonna be better, but they're not gonna be top twenty five better. How you know that? Because they don't even know who they're gonna look like. No. But why? Why what is what is there? Nothing. Exactly. They have Nick Harbor. Nick Harbor, Dylan Stewart, Lenar Sellers. That's that's a lot. How long have they been there? Lamar Sellers sp rec specs are gonna fog up in the first game. They went they were pretty solid the year before and Lloyd Norris got hurt last year. How many wins did they have last year? Three. Seven? No, three. They only have three. They had four. Okay, why are we saying that about w we're saying n South Carolina had four f fucking wins. Exactly. And then you have Florida, who is supposed to be who's slated higher than them, first of all, in this ranking I'm looking at. Florida's gonna suck. Florida's not gonna suck. They're not gonna be good. They're not gonna be ranked. We haven't even touched Arizona. I wouldn't hate in Arizona. I could put No F a Fiat. Over Florida? Yes. Yes. No Fafia. Over Vandy? Noah Fafia. Yes. Arizona ended the season. Arizona ended the season not in the top twenty five. I thought I thought they did. They're still. Regardless, they were really good. Over Clemson? I mean I got Arizona. Over Missouri? Yes, over Missouri. All right. No, y'all know ball. You're right. All I don't know. I don't know. No. We don't know ball. We don't know ball. All right, stop. So are we putting Arizona in No, I think they should go. If we're gonna put Arizona in the top twenty-five, it's gonna go Houston and then Arizona. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Okay. Wow, that was so hard. We did it. We did it. But what do you think about South Carolina? Twenty-six. All right. We finally got our top twenty-five for the next season of college football. The you don't know ball. Podcast preseason top twenty-five is Oregon one Ohio State two Texas three Notre Dame four Ole Miss Five Miami six Indiana seven Georgia eight AM nine Tech Texas Tech ten Oklahoma eleven Alabama twelve BYU thirteen USC 14 LSU fifteen Michigan sixteen Penn State seventeen Louisville eighteen Washington nineteen, Utah twenty, SMU twenty one, Iowa twenty two, Tennessee twenty three, Houston twenty-four, and Arizona twenty-five. Bang! That is what we have it in. That's a great that's a great ranking. I don't care what they say. That might be the best of our entire show's history, I think. So and we've had some doozies. We've had some people come in in our comments and just straight up. Dude, I think that last the last like ten minutes of this pod are gonna be so funny to go back and rewatch. Who would I thought we would have had more arguments from like one to fifteen, not fifteen to twenty bombs, dude. You gotta leave all the F bombs in. That was too good. It's gonna be playing quarterback this year. What about South Carolina? All right. That was good. Final thoughts. Lord have mercy on our soul. Yeah, we're gonna see how poorly people come out. I don't even know. I think it's gotta come out soon. We're gonna see how poorly this ages in about Two months or so and it's gonna probably age even worse in about four to five months. Get your beers ready. I'm excited. you know, I'd say the team that I've wanted to place most where where the which team did I want to place most somewhere? South Carolina killed. Dude, to be honest, I'm most happy with my Washington placement. I think for however badly I get that one wrong, I will drink that many beers on a podcast episode. That's my deal. That's my We didn't even say anything about UNC. Bill Belichick is gonna have a great year. The damn athletic director got suspended for fucking something. Which team play. Which team placement were you most passionate about that was placed somewhere? Cause you gotta make the same bet. well Oklahoma didn't get picked where I I wanted it to be, but that'd probably big like I'd say like either Oklahoma or You were pretty passionate about the Oklahoma one. Yeah. That was only one away from where you wanted it. Yeah. So for how far off they are, you'll take that many drinks. Yeah. I was I was the most passionate about SMU. Where we had them. Twenty one Louisville. Yeah. I thought you were most passionate about either Louisville. I actually you're right. I am really passionate about Louisville. The Louisville. And no, South Carolina. No, we didn't rank them, so we can't even say that. You still were the most passionate. No, you were y your Louisville one was definitely the most. And then Jack, what was yours? Probably Old Miss. Old Miss. Yeah, no, Old Miss was a good one. So however far off they are, that's how many beers we owe by the end of the year. I'm just glad we didn't rank TCU because that was some bullshit. Yeah. Good God. We were like, Whoever fucking shows TCU son. let's throw him in there. TCU. Yeah, I'm not saying TCU is gonna be ranked. But then, we get a Harvard kid coming quarterback and they're instantly ranked in the top thirty. Sonny Dyke's gonna get TCU right. They're not gonna be playoff bound. They're not gonna be top ten bound. And they're also not gonna be right. They finished the season nine and four. From Harvard, he's smart. Yes. Their team sucked comp in comparison to Indiana last year, but they finished the season nine and four, guys. Yeah. And you still said that Hoover is not gonna make them worse? No. Better that they left? Hoover Ugh Alright. We're gonna end the episode. All right. Remember Sorry that's gonna be the episode today. There'll be a power five power fives. I'm gonna say this. You better watch the the last like ten to twenty minutes of this episode, 'cause that's when the most live happens. Yeah. Live shit. It gets get rowdy, but dude, I won't even be here next week. Yeah, we're gonna have an episode before your wedding. okay. We're gonna do it. We're gonna have it at the wedding. god. But Special shout out to Grayson Middleton and Megan Middleton. Congrats on your guys' wedding. It was very functions. Very fun to have you be there and attend that and be the wedding. So we you we give you a very special you don't know ball congrat. to congratulations I'm ending the episode I'm still filed up about SNU remember we don't know ball you don't know ball we all don't know ball see ya see you in the next one peace go blue