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Entering The Lion's Den · Hawk Talk

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to Hawk Talk with former Seahawks wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: Michael Bumpus. Play fake, go to roll right, dumps it
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  Speaker 1: off into the right flasf to Michael Bumpers, who bounces
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  Speaker 1: off a one tackler gets inside the forty down of
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  Speaker 1: the thirty five yard line. Powered by Seahawks dot Com,
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  Speaker 1: Matt pumpfake's looking to the gold line.
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  Speaker 2: He throws it into the m zone. Touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: Say Hawks, it's Michael Bumps with.
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  Speaker 1: A diving catching the end zone.
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  Speaker 2: A ten yard.
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  Speaker 4: Touchdown reception for Bumpers, and the kid out of Washington
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  Speaker 4: State has found himself a place.
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  Speaker 3: On this team.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Nasa Chobee.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome into another edition of Hawk Talk, getting you ready
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  Speaker 4: for the Seahawks and lines this weekend as the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: tried to get over that Week one loss to the Rams.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Nasa chobe I'm here with my guy, Michael Bumpus,
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  Speaker 4: and before we get into the lines, get on tap.
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  Speaker 4: I got a little injury update. Some roster moves going
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  Speaker 4: down with the Seahawks on Wednesday. Unfortunately, guard or tackle
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  Speaker 4: Abraham Lucas is going to IR, meaning he's not eligible
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  Speaker 4: returned for at least another four games. The Seahawks were
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  Speaker 4: active adding some depth to the roster at tackle, signing
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  Speaker 4: a pair of undrafted rookies to the fifty three man roster.
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  Speaker 4: Tackle Rokwan O'Neill signed off Tampa Bay's practice squad, while
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  Speaker 4: McClinton and Curtis signed out for Las Vegas practice squad.
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  Speaker 4: O'Neill went undrafted out of UCLA, starting thirteen games at
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  Speaker 4: left tackle last season, and Curtis played out of Tennessee Chattanooga,
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  Speaker 4: starting thirty eight games in his college career. Also earlier
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  Speaker 4: this week, the Seahawks signed veteran Jason Peters you remember
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  Speaker 4: him from the Cowboys and most notably the Eagles and Bills,
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  Speaker 4: as well as Greg Island to their practice squad Tuesday
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  Speaker 4: before Curtis and O'Neill. So a little update there for everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Not what you're looking for from a health perspective, but
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  Speaker 4: the Seahawks will make it work. Adding some depth to
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  Speaker 4: that offensive line. Let's get back into the Lions. What's
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  Speaker 4: on tap?
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  Speaker 1: What's on tap?
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  Speaker 2: Bump man? These lines are for real.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're one to zero beat the Chief. Opening week,
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  Speaker 4: they're celebrating their Super Bowl trophy bomb. But what have
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  Speaker 4: you seen from this line seem so far this year?
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Like you said that for real, and they're not
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  Speaker 5: sneaking up on anybody, man. They finished winning eight of
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  Speaker 5: their last ten games last season and got a victory
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  Speaker 5: at lambeau Field that helped us out.
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  Speaker 3: So thank you, Lines.
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  Speaker 5: We appreciate your contributions to the Seattle Seahawks got us
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  Speaker 5: into the playoffs, and early in the season we played
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  Speaker 5: them and we saw the potential of this team, and
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  Speaker 5: as the season unfolded, you're thinking, man, these guys are
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  Speaker 5: for real.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 5: Jared Golf was over there doing this thing. The run
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  Speaker 5: game was good. That changed a little bit. But always
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  Speaker 5: go back to when people were laughing at Dan Campbell,
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  Speaker 5: we're gonna be biting at the knee cast. And they
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  Speaker 5: just showed that part of the conference. They didn't of
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  Speaker 5: the conference. They didn't show the whole thing. There was
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  Speaker 5: a lot more substance behind what he was saying. But
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  Speaker 5: you know how they do on the media. They're gonna
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  Speaker 5: isolate some things and then highlight that. But they came
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  Speaker 5: out swinging, and you mentioned they beat the Kansas City Chiefs.
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  Speaker 5: Can see Chiefs were in celebration mode. We just won
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  Speaker 5: a Super Bowl last year. That's half good times Thursday
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  Speaker 5: night football, and the Lions came in and said, nah,
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  Speaker 5: we get on that. We're gonna go ahead and get
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  Speaker 5: this w and move along. I was impressed. Even if
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  Speaker 5: the Chiefs did not have Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care about none of that.
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  Speaker 5: You're the defending champions and the Detroit Lions say, y'all
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  Speaker 5: better take us serious.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't care where it is. I mean, the
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks learned that Week one, the Bengals learned that. Everyone
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  Speaker 4: learned that it's a National Football League. Anyone can went
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  Speaker 4: on then and give a Sunday So to go to
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  Speaker 4: that place at Arrowhead and win in that environment, it's
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  Speaker 4: super impressive. I mean the game, you know, did Travis
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  Speaker 4: Kelsey not be in there hurt the Chiefs?
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  Speaker 2: Of course it did.
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  Speaker 4: Of the best sight ends in the game, but they
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  Speaker 4: still had Patrick Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes one of the
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  Speaker 4: best quarterbacks in the game. They did their thing and
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  Speaker 4: look into this head to head bump man, It's only
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  Speaker 4: been one week, right, so we talk about this every year.
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  Speaker 4: You can't really dive into the head to head until
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  Speaker 4: at least maybe three or four games to really have
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  Speaker 4: a sample size, but for the case of this, we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna do it anyway. The Lions after one week, they're
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  Speaker 4: ranked at number seventh an offense three hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 4: eight yards, ninth in rush offense at one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: eighteen yards a game, six in pass offense two hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty yards, and tied for thirteenth at twenty one. On
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  Speaker 4: the flip side, not looking good. Bump Seahawks thirtieth after
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  Speaker 4: their game against the Rams and offense only one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and eighty yards, twenty second with rush offense, twenty ninth
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  Speaker 4: pass offense, and twenty seventh with points per game at thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously it's been one week, two different results. Lions
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  Speaker 4: won their game, the Seahawks did not win their game,
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  Speaker 4: didn't run a lot of plays in the second half,
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  Speaker 4: So not gonna look good here. But this is kind
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  Speaker 4: of like batting average in baseball right at the beginning
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  Speaker 4: of the season, where you can go zero for six,
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  Speaker 4: but then if you go four for four, all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden, you're batting four hundred. So I'm hoping to
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  Speaker 4: see that from the Seahawks offensive numbers after this week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.
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  Speaker 5: When you look at the just the defense, right, you
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  Speaker 5: look at total defense number thirty when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: the Seahawks gave a four hundred and twenty six yards
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  Speaker 5: that game, I'm not even gonna say per game.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that correct.
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  Speaker 5: Last week, right, according to last week, I like this
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  Speaker 5: number thirteenth. When it comes to the rush defense on
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  Speaker 5: the gave up ninety two yards on forty carries. Le's
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  Speaker 5: remind people that then passed defense thirty first, not good,
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  Speaker 5: three under and thirty four. Matthew Stafford had the day.
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  Speaker 5: We remember that, and then gave up thirty points. That
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  Speaker 5: puts him at twenty six. We look at the defense
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  Speaker 5: for the Detroit Lions, gave a three in the sixteen
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  Speaker 5: yards is twenty first in the league. They were good
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  Speaker 5: against the run as well, twelfth in the league. Gave
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  Speaker 5: up ninety last week. They twenty twenty six yards is
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  Speaker 5: twenty fourth and twenty points that is fourteenth.
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  Speaker 3: They were only sacked one time.
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  Speaker 5: Jared Goff was only sacked twenty three times last year,
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  Speaker 5: only sacked one time in last game, so they're keeping
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  Speaker 5: up that trend.
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  Speaker 3: Gino was sacked two times.
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  Speaker 5: When it comes to penalties, the Detroit Lions were a
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  Speaker 5: bit cleaner than the Seahawks. Hawks later on, the game
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  Speaker 5: kind of fell apart a little bit. They had seven penalties,
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  Speaker 5: Detroit Lions had four. So look, you look at these numbers,
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  Speaker 5: you take it for what it is. I don't think
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  Speaker 5: we definitively know who each team is. We know what
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  Speaker 5: they can be, we know what they're trying to be.
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  Speaker 5: So look at these numbers and I say, all right,
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  Speaker 5: you can't ignore them.
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  Speaker 3: It's truth. But this is a long season. We're only
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  Speaker 3: one game, man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, one thing that I like about the Seahawks
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  Speaker 4: is no turnovers. So if we're looking at more positive
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  Speaker 4: from week one, they didn't turn the ball over. You
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  Speaker 4: mentioned penalties. They're going to clean that up, so definitely
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  Speaker 4: love that. And on the other side those the Lions
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  Speaker 4: also they only turned the ball over once and then
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  Speaker 4: excuse me, they have one turnover and then they're turn
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  Speaker 4: diffrenchs at zero. So it'll be interesting to see follow
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  Speaker 4: that stat as things move on.
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  Speaker 2: But it's one game.
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  Speaker 4: As you said, hoping the Seahawks can drastically improve all
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  Speaker 4: their numbers because we know the potential of this football team,
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  Speaker 4: and that wasn't it last Sunday. But these two teams
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  Speaker 4: have played recently, recently as last year, so let's know
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  Speaker 4: the history, No.
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  Speaker 2: Your history.
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  Speaker 4: Seahawks leads the all time series eleven to five. They're
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  Speaker 4: one to zero in the postseason. The Seahawks have also
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  Speaker 4: won seven of their last eight. Last year, Man, that
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  Speaker 4: was a shootout beating them. When I'm going back through
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  Speaker 4: the box score, I'm like, dang, I knew it was
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  Speaker 4: a shootout, but looking at some of these numbers, wild
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  Speaker 4: They beat the lines forty eight to forty five, didn't
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  Speaker 4: feature a ton of defense, with exception of Riek Woolan
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  Speaker 4: getting a pick six off of Jared Goff. Both teams
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  Speaker 4: combined for one thousand and seventy five yards of total offense.
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  Speaker 4: Man over one thousand yards Man five hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 4: five from the Seahawks five to twenty from the Lions.
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  Speaker 4: Gino Smith had a day throwing for three hundred yards
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  Speaker 4: and two touchdowns. Rashad Penny ran for one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: fifty one yards on seventeen carries, including probably the game
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  Speaker 4: ceiling touchdown forty one yards. Metcalf went off four one
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  Speaker 4: hundred and forty nine yards on seven receptions, and then
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  Speaker 4: on the other side, Jared Goff probably had one of
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  Speaker 4: his guest game games as a pro, going twenty six
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  Speaker 4: for thirty nine three hundred and seventy eight yards, four touchdowns,
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  Speaker 4: one interception. Jamal Williams also ran for one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: eight yards, and Man TJ. Hawkinson, before he got traded
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  Speaker 4: to the Vikings, had eight receptions for one hundred and
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  Speaker 4: seventy nine yards and two touchdowns. Bob, who would have
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  Speaker 4: thought that that game was going to decide the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: for those two teams I played.
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  Speaker 5: Man, that game was entertaining if you didn't have a
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  Speaker 5: rooting entrance, right because you look at the numbers that
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  Speaker 5: are being put up.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone loves good offense.
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  Speaker 5: You got both of that, and that was I remember
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  Speaker 5: that game because Treek Wooland undercut a pass across the
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  Speaker 5: middle and took that thing to the house. That was
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  Speaker 5: one of the times where I'm like, oh, on, we
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  Speaker 5: might be on the sum here with this Trei Woolan kid,
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, man, we all have offense.
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  Speaker 3: We got a lot of offense there.
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  Speaker 5: I hope that we see some of the same numbers,
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  Speaker 5: but for the Seahawks this week, not for those danglines.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to see forty eight again. I
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  Speaker 4: would love to see no fours, no threes.
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  Speaker 2: Keep me in the twenties. I'd like to see that.
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  Speaker 3: Please both like that.
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  Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see. But let's check in on the
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  Speaker 4: rest of the NFC West.
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  Speaker 2: What's the word and.
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  Speaker 1: The Seahawks or the NFC West champs again?
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  Speaker 2: What's the word in the West?
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  Speaker 3: On HOWK talk?
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  Speaker 5: All right, man, we've got some action in the West
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  Speaker 5: right now. The Rams sitting up top with forty nine ers.
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  Speaker 5: They're both want to Oh, we know the Hawks loss
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  Speaker 5: and the Arizona Cardinals loss as well, But let's go
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  Speaker 5: to Pittsburgh. Man, those forty nine ers, and we learned
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  Speaker 5: some week one. They're still good.
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  Speaker 3: Alright. I know it's Week one.
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  Speaker 5: I know the numbers are what they are, but if
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  Speaker 5: you watch that game, you know that the Niners is
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  Speaker 5: still good. They jumped out to a twenty to zero
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  Speaker 5: lead and won at thirty to seven.
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  Speaker 3: The main thing we want to see right is Brock Purty.
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  Speaker 3: That guy.
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  Speaker 5: We saw him for nine games last year. He was
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  Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship game. He gets hurt, what is
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  Speaker 5: he gonna do. He went nineteen of twenty nine for
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  Speaker 5: twenty twenty yards and two touchdowns. And then Christian McCaffrey,
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  Speaker 5: you know that he's gonna touch the rock, all right,
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  Speaker 5: and he had one hundred and fifty two yards on
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  Speaker 5: twenty two carrits in one touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: And Brandon, a man.
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  Speaker 5: Like Deebo gets a lot of love, and he should
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  Speaker 5: get a lot of love. But Brandon Ayuk is the
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  Speaker 5: best receiver on the scene. We're talking about routes, we're
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  Speaker 5: talking about catching the football out the air.
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  Speaker 3: He's the best receiver.
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  Speaker 5: Deebo and Christian McCaffrey might be the most gifted when
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  Speaker 5: it comes to just being a football player. But Brandon,
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  Speaker 5: that you ball out man. He had one hundred and
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  Speaker 5: twenty nine yards and two touchdowns. And then this defense,
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  Speaker 5: the kid out of USC Drake Jackson, had himself a
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  Speaker 5: year man. The Niners had five sacks, but three of
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  Speaker 5: them came for this young man, Drake Jackson. They picked
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  Speaker 5: off Kenny Pickett twice too, glove Can picked them off twice.
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  Speaker 5: Still had two hundred and thirty nine yards of offense.
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  Speaker 5: There were five for fifteen on third downs we learned.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we just got reassured that the Niners are
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  Speaker 5: going to be good this year and all as well.
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  Speaker 5: So that was a I expected this game to end
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  Speaker 5: up like that, and I expected some of these numbers.
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  Speaker 3: Brandon Aiyuk a surprise, but not really a surprise.
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  Speaker 5: But Drake Jackson, man, I knew when he got drafted
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  Speaker 5: he could do something, look good all all the way around.
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  Speaker 4: Now, well, the scary part is Drake Jackson, right, So
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  Speaker 4: if you add him to already potent defense in the
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  Speaker 4: Boss of the World and Fred Warner running around.
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  Speaker 2: And it they're scary. I mean, it is.
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  Speaker 4: What is We know their roster has been one of
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  Speaker 4: the best in the league, and it has been for
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  Speaker 4: a little while now, but that they're adding a couple
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  Speaker 4: other tools and rock Perty seem to kind of answer
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  Speaker 4: the bell.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see again. I'm still gonna wait.
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  Speaker 4: As the Great Dennis scream and say, before I crown anybody,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: He looked, he looked good any games. You gotta see,
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  Speaker 5: he's nine in, he's ten in. Now, he's ten in.
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  Speaker 5: How many more do you need to believe?
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  Speaker 4: Give me to October Dog, Give me to October bump
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  Speaker 4: and then maybe and then maybe I'll be bought in.
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  Speaker 4: But he's we'll see. We didn't learn much there that
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  Speaker 4: the Niners are still good. Elsewhere in the division, things
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  Speaker 4: not goes well for the Cardinals and new head coach
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  Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon. This was just kind of a start of
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  Speaker 4: a new era for both organizations. Cardinals obviously have a
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  Speaker 4: new coach with Gannon and Commanders with a completely new
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  Speaker 4: ownership group. And the Cardinals obviously they're out. Cal Murray's
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  Speaker 4: on the pup list re covering from the ACLS hair
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  Speaker 4: who knows when he'll be back. And the Commanders they
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  Speaker 4: decided going this year with Sam Howe at quarterback after
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  Speaker 4: thinks didn't work out with Carson Wentz last year. And
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  Speaker 4: you know, honestly, I'll give the Cardinals credit because this
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  Speaker 4: game could have been a lot worse. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how good the Cardinals are gonna be affect. They actually
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  Speaker 4: did compete and stayed in the game. After lying a
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  Speaker 4: touchdown on the first game first second drive of the game,
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  Speaker 4: the Cardinals responded with thirteen straight points, went in a
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  Speaker 4: halftime with a thirteen to ten lead. Unfortunately, it was
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  Speaker 4: all Commanders in the fourth quarter as they scored the
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  Speaker 4: game's remaining ten points. Not a lot of offense in that game.
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  Speaker 4: Joshua Dobbs got to start for the Cardinals. He went
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  Speaker 4: twenty one of thirty four, one hundred and thirty two yards,
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  Speaker 4: no touchdowns, and fumbled twice. So definitely not the start
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  Speaker 4: you're looking for a quarterback. James Connor sixty two yards
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  Speaker 4: and fourteen carries. I'm not really sure how the season's
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  Speaker 4: gonna play out, especially with that Kyler Murray. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: sure if they're gonna be able to score a lot
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  Speaker 4: of points. But we'll see, man, maybe we'll get some explosives.
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  Speaker 2: I got a.
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  Speaker 3: Theory for you, got a theory?
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  Speaker 2: Huh?
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  Speaker 5: Kyler Murray to the Jets, whoa Arizona?
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  Speaker 3: Who not gonna be good this year?
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  Speaker 5: You can use their first round pick because they're gonna
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  Speaker 5: be top five.
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  Speaker 3: Send him to the Jets. Arizona starts all over once again.
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  Speaker 3: That's just a theory mine.
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  Speaker 2: Holy okay, bump, okay, I got you with the hot take.
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  Speaker 4: We will revisit this tape if Kyler Murray goes on
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  Speaker 4: to the Jets. Interesting enough, but man, that I'm all
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  Speaker 4: messed up. I don't even know what I'm at in
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  Speaker 4: the rundown with that, like wow, okay, okay, bump saving
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  Speaker 4: us with the hot takes. But let's put the script
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  Speaker 4: back to the Detroit Lions and man up.
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  Speaker 1: Man up on Hawk Talk.
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  Speaker 4: We'll start at the quarterback position like we always do,
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  Speaker 4: Jared Goff going to go to Seahawks defense. And Goff
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  Speaker 4: is entering his thirty year alliance and the first time,
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  Speaker 4: I think was some real expectations because he's coming off
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  Speaker 4: one of the best seasons of his eight year career,
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like, honestly, for the first time, people
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  Speaker 4: are kind of looking at Jared Goff as Jared Goff
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  Speaker 4: the quarterback, not Jared Goff who executed Sean mcvay's offense
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  Speaker 4: with the Rams. I feel like you never really got
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  Speaker 4: any credit. I might have been a culprit of that,
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  Speaker 4: just because Sean McVay so good a he does offensively,
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  Speaker 4: But Jared Goff is playing well, man. I mean, last year,
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  Speaker 4: the line's offensive explosive. They are fourth in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: in total yards, eighth best passing offense, fifth in points
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  Speaker 4: per game. Last year he threw for over four thousand
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  Speaker 4: yards twenty nine touchdowns and just seven interceptions, which is
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  Speaker 4: a big for him because he's turned the ball over
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  Speaker 4: quite a bit in his career, and seven matched his
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  Speaker 4: career low. He'd done that two other times. And he
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  Speaker 4: got back to the Pro Bowl for the first time
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  Speaker 4: since twenty eighteen. In the game against the Chiefs, he
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  Speaker 4: went twenty two to thirty five or two hundred and
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  Speaker 4: fifty three yards in a touchdown, And like I said,
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  Speaker 4: for the first time career, I think the man is
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: getting some respect and it's gonna be tough because they're
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: very talented. We're gonna get into some more matchup and
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: some weapons he has offensively, but the Seahawks need to
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: show up a lot of things. In the past game,
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: they allowed three hundred and thirty four passing yards four
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty six yards of total offense to the Rams,
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: so they got their work cutout for him, and the
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: lines are gonna make it tough for him. So I'm
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: just hoping maybe we'll learn a little bit more about
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Jared Goff, if he kind of deserves the praise he's
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: been getting, and if he's gonna really show who he
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: is as a quarterback.
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing about Jared goff Man that kind of
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: gets me because you gotta respect what he did last
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: year and if he's able to duplicate them. I look
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: at him as a guy who can run an offense.
• 15:11
  Speaker 5: Is he a guy who can win you a Super Bowl?
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Everyone needs the Kirk Cousins in the league, and I'm like,
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: it's Jared goff a Kirk Cousins. Like you respect Kirk Cousins.
• 15:20
  Speaker 5: You know he can ball, but Kenny win the big game.
• 15:23
  Speaker 5: I hope eventually he does that, but I hope he
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: doesn't do it before the seahows correct everything they got gone.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You get it and get it done. But respect to
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Jared golf Man.
• 15:30
  Speaker 5: I love seeing dudes who were doubted come out and
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: prove some of these guys wrong. But I need an
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: off day from you this week, mister golf All right,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: let's talk about our quarterback Gino Smith against this Lion's
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: defense and one way we wanted from Geno Smith to
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: start right, no doubt about it. Last week, it was
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: sixteen to twenty six at sixty one percent for one
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: hundred and twelve yards, one touchdown, zero interceptions, had a
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: QB rerating of eighty four.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: Now let's put some context with this.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Last season, Gino's lowest passing game was one hundred and
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: eight three yards. He only had two games whereas completion
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: percentage was less than sixty two yards, and he only
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: had four games with a QB rating under eighty five.
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: So safe to say we're not gonna see many performances.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: I don't anticipate see many performances from Gino. Like we
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: saw last week, the offense only ran forty six plays
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: against the Rams. Last year they averaged sixty one plays
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: a game. They only had three games under fifty plays,
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: so obviously things is worn't clicking in that second half,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: but they run with fourteen plays. Yeah, overall, things is
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: worth clicking. So we need a bounce back from Gino.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: And there's nothing that he's shown me that's gonna that
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: makes me believe that he can't bounce back and get
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: it them. It's all all about adjustments. He's gonna adjust,
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: the office is going to adjust. They will be fined.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: The Lions held Pat Mahomes to just twenty points, so
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: he's gonna have his work cutout for him.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: But I think he can do it, no.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Question about it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: I mean the numbers you said there, the fact that
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: he only had two games where his completion percentage was
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: under sixty two percent all of last season. That kind
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: of shows he has a body of work that he's
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: shown he can do, and they're gonna bounce back. I
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: think the whole offense was kind of out of things
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: last week, and I have faith that they're definitely gonna
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: bounce back this weekend. Now the Lions flipping into their side.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: In the running game, we're looking at David Montgomery and
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Jamier Gibbs from Alabama against the Seahawks front seven. The
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Lions last year kind of had a two headed monster
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: with DeAndre Swift and Jamal Williams both in different spots
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Philly and New Orleans, respectively. This year, David Montgomery, they
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: got him from the Bears. He was the third round
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: draft pick in twenty nineteen. After spending four years in Chicago.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: He rushed for over three thousand yards in his career,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: does have one one thousand yard season, and Montgomery got
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the bulk of the carries last week against the Chiefs,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: rushing for six seventy four yards on twenty one carries
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: in a touchdown. The other running back obviously, like I mentioned,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: gets to burn Is Gibbs out of Alabama twelve pick overall,
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: he had seven carries for forty two yards and along
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: of eighteen. Listening to some stuff coming out of Detroit
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: this week, looks like they're gonna try to get him
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit more involved in the game. So they're
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: gonna keep running the ball, you know. I think the
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Seahawks did a great job stopping the run last week,
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: but other teams are gonna test them, right, They're gonna
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: make you prove that weekend and week out that this
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: is a real change and not a fluke.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: But the throw the Seahawks in love. Man.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: They gave up ninety two yards on forty carries as
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: two point three yards to carry against the Rams. But
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: if you really look at those runs, Seahawks held the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: Rams for three yards or less on twenty five of
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: those forty carries, and then fifteen of those carries went
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: for more than three yards, so that's not a lot.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: And then the Rams had one carry for more than
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: ten yards, so just one explosive and fifteen of those
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: run plays were for no gain or negative yards, So
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: that shows the Seahawks were getting stuff done.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: On early downs.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: They weren't perfect, but I think they've taken that step.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Now it's their chance to prove it on Sunday and
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: making sure that Montgomery and GiB Zonk go running all
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: over the place.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're really digging into the numbers, you can say, well,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: they picked up so many first downs with runs. It
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: was like third and one, third and two. Now you're
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: an NFL team, you should be able to pick up
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: one or two yards on any given play.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: So for all the haters digging deeper than numbers, good
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: job been you homework.
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: But let's let's talk some football and realize that any
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: NFL team should be able to pickup the yard too.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about the Detroit Lions and their receivers.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Man A Monroe s Brown is one of my favorite
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: receivers in the league. And Josh Reynolds has been in
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: league seven years or quiet seven. It seems like he's
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: only been in a few years. But a Monral Saint
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Brown is an underrated receiver, kind of like Tyler Locket, right,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: they got that in common. But he was balled out
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: last year. One hundred and six receptions, eleven hundred yards,
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: six touchdowns. A kid out of the USC is getting done.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: He wasn't helping for the game against the Seahawks last season,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: so we'll see what he will do this year. But
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: this is a guy who's not extremely fast, but fast enough.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: But he's a true route running and a receiver understand
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: spacing miss Crafty at the top of his routes. We're
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: gonna have our hands full with him. One of the
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: best in the league. Like I mentioned, underrated other guys.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Josh Reynolds, like I said, seven years in the league,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: doesn't really feel like that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: He has stops in LA and Tennessee.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: In fourteen games with Detroit last year, he had thirty
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: eight receptions for four seventy nine and three touchdowns. Last
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: week he had four receptions for eighty yards in one touchdown.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: Now giving up three hundred and thirty four yards last week,
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: this secondary is going to be on high alert.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: This is a good duo.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: It's better than Tootuatwill and Puka Nakua who just carved
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: us up. So we got to watch the secondary and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: it sounds like we might get to see the number
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: five pig, Devin Witherspoon. I'm not counting on this dude
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: just to fix the secondary, but I just want to
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: see what he can do because we haven't seen much
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: of him so far.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great to see him back out of
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: practice on Wednesday, so I'm looking forward to it if
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: he's out there, And I think you're right, we should
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: temper our expectations a little bit. We shouldn't be expecting
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: him to have six interceptions and all of a sudden,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the Seahawks are only on one hundred yards. But we
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: know how talented he can be. So I'm definitely intriguing
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and I think he's going to help this secondary. Definitely
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: footprint back to the line secondary and another match around
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: to look at is dk Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: don't gotta say much. I'd be here all day if
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I read off their credentials and what they've done in
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: this league. So I know, no, he's got time for that.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: But last week they only combined for five receptions fifty
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: seven yards in one touchdown on nine targets. Those guys,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, you run fourteen plays in the second half,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: it's hard to get your receivers involved. I expect them
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: to play a much bigger role than we need them to.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Quite frankly, I think they're they're too good. I think
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: Shane Waldern's gonna get back in his bag and find
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: ways to get these guys the ball, because when they go,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: our offense goes.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: It's kind of hard.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Definitely last year when we struggled, it's when they had,
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: you know, box scores that looked like that. So I'm
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: looking for those guys that big game they got too.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I mean he had DK with a couple of big receptions.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: Even Tyler Lockett had a big reception on third down
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: to start the game. On that first drive, I DK
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: with a touchdown and another reception, But there was just
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: no consistency and it seemed like to get this pass
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: game going, you know, you got to get these two involved.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: So I'm with you, Gino, DK Lockett, let's get it going.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: And uh, let's talk about and Aiden Hutchins. Sorry almost
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: called him Anthony Hutchinson for some reason.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Aid.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Versus the Seahawks offensive line.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: This young man was a second overall pick in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: twenty twenty two draft out of Michigan. He plays with
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: a motor in an intensity that ideally you want from
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: a guy that's rushing off the edge right zero plays off,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: He's going, he's going, he's going, he doesn't stop. I
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: appreciate it about him last year as a rookie at
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: fifty two tackles, nine tackles for the lost, fifteen quarterback hits,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: nine and a half sacks in three interceptions. In the
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: first game against the Chiefs, he was super active. Four
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: tackles in three quarterback hits. So we're looking at this
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: offensive line and what has happened so far. Right, we
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: got Abe Lucas, who's gonna be out. Got Charles Cross
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: who what bang his toe or something like that, turf toe,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: turf toe. So there's gonna be some movement on this line,
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: and I wonder how it's going to affect the player
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Aden Hutchinson, Like he's he gonna shine because of this,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: or will the Hawks come together and try to contain him,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Because a player like him, it's hard to say you're
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: just gonna lock him down and shut him out.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: He's gonna make plays.
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: But it's the time of the plays, in the consistency
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: of the plays. So with this new group, man, I'm
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: excited for the challenge, and I hope they are too.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the second round picks or second overall
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: picks don't grow on trees. And you talk about that
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: motor and that that's something that scares you as an
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: offensive lineman. You can't take a playoff with this guy
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: because he can make that play. But you know, given
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the way that the Seahawks are hurting up up front,
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: we're gonna run that rock. I think I think we're
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: gonna help them usualize eight hunches and hopefully by Ken
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Walker running that rock, which brings me to ways, the
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Seahawks gonna get this done.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Path to victory.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: At the forty five, waits for the snap, Michael Vickton
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: puts it down.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: That kick is away and that kick is gone.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Good say off.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: When it's gone.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It's a path to victory on Hawk Talk.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Shake it off, man, Yeah, shake off. Last week. It's
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: a new week. The you know the pages turn on
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Wednesdays in this building. After tell the truth Monday, it
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: is over. Whatever happened against the Rams is done. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: like I said, it shouldn't be problem for Pete King,
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Pete Carroll coach team. The Seahawks have the second best
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: winning percentage in the NFL since twenty twelve, falling and
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: in season loss of the record of forty two and nineteen,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: so they usually bounce back. Well, that's definitely ingrained into
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: players in this program, So I don't think it's gonna
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: be an issue. I think they're gonna come out with
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: more intensity and then they're gonna come out with a
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: sense of urgency, and I look for them to just
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: look a lot better in all facets of the game.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Here's my question.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: When I go to vMac on Thursdays and the teams
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: and they're meeting, they're getting hyped there playing music. You say,
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: shake it off? Are they gonna play Taylor Swift shake
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: it Off? Are they gonna play Maria Carries shake it Off?
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: That's my question. What song are they gonna play to
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: get these guys going in the morning because they be
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: hyped up?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: And Pete Carroll, I'm just I'm interested in the message,
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: and I think you know that has to be here, right,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: get over that that thing's over and is getting back
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: to being the Seahawks that we saw last year in
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: certain places right better against the run. You got Gino
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Ni Gino to be Gino, and I think you're right.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: You got to be able to run that rock. We
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: saw a little bit of what they can do run
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: the football with Knin in the backfield.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: That sharpening in the backfield.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: DJ Dallas is getting some That's the thing I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: frustrating last week because you saw the potential what they're
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: trying to do and then get DK Tyler and Jayson involved.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: I think they're still they still have the potential to
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: be one of the best trios in the league.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: We got to see them do that, oh A, no
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: question about it. And another thing is third downs. Gotta
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: be better on third downs. Eleven for seventeen defensively is
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: not good enough and then true for an offensively is
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: not good enough. And you know saying on defense, protecting
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: the middle of the field, finding a way to you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: make those adjustments and then when someone starts to hurt
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: us somewhere to figure out a way from the guys
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: on the field that you know, stop that from happening.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: And I think they can. I think we're gonna see
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: much better. You know, I want efforts up the right word,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: but a much better performance from the defensive line. Because
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a first week, they're all out there,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: they're all new guys playing different, you know, different positions
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: or different spots, and they're all out there at once
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: making line calls and different stuff like that. So I
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: think we'll give them some time to adjust and be
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: with each other. With Bobby Back and Jordan Brooks and
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: Devin Bush and all different matchups and people coming in
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: personnel groupings, I think they'll simplify it. I think they'll
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: get after Jared Goff and their Seahawks are definitely gonna
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: need to do that because teams that are owing too
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: is not a great start in the league and we
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: don't want that. And I think these guys can get
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: that done. Man, well, Bump, We're hopeful. I hope next
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: time me and you were chatting, it's a Seahawks victory
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: on a victory on Monday.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Because we need it. We need it, we need it.
• 26:28
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• 26:44
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• 26:46
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• 26:49
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• 27:00
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