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Orioles Reality Check w/Steve Melewski: Superstars starting slow & Jackson Holliday update · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Steve Oluski joining us right now. He's covered the Orioles
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Speaker 1: for decades and now he is a part of the
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Speaker 1: ft fan Birdland Territory announced late last night. Steve, congratulations
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Speaker 1: on the debut of the show. It is great to
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Speaker 1: have you on here and we're going to dive into
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Speaker 1: the Orioles, but first give us a little taste of
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Speaker 1: what everyone can expect on the show. And the rest
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Speaker 1: of your teammates that are going to be contributing, well, we.
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Speaker 2: Are thrilled that we finally got to the finish line.
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Speaker 2: We had some ups and downs along the way, but
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Speaker 2: I love the team we have on Birdland Territory. You know,
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Speaker 2: Tim Barblace is up and comer at one of five
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Speaker 2: to seven the fan in Baltimore, co host of the
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Speaker 2: afternoon show Inside Access, and of course Brad Brock. He
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Speaker 2: made his lone All Star game on the Orioles Watch
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Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen and was part of that great bullpen
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Speaker 2: the Bob they called him, you know, brock Odey in
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Speaker 2: Britain seventh, eighth, and ninth and they won a lot
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Speaker 2: of games because of those guys, and Brad was outstanding
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Speaker 2: on our first show that debuted last night and all,
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Speaker 2: we're getting a lot of subscribers, a lot of people watching,
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Speaker 2: so that's great, and so bout Territory. Birdland Territory edition
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Speaker 2: is here finally, and so we look forward to a
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Speaker 2: lot of exciting things and hopefully some more wins to
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Speaker 2: talk about. We don't control that part of it, but
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Speaker 2: we'll be there. We'll probably have another show published on
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Speaker 2: Wednesday night coming up. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: First off, Bob led to a lot of sleepless nights
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Speaker 3: during my time with Toronto. Secondly, there's only going to
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Speaker 3: be one Al's team on top of the ratings when
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Speaker 3: this season's open. That's gonna be Bluebird Territory. So I
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Speaker 3: want to get that straight. But all serious, list, what
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Speaker 3: do you got? What do you go with this Oriole team?
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Speaker 3: Because I went on Bluebird Territory and talked about I
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Speaker 3: felt like the Orioles had the makings of what Toronto
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Speaker 3: was able to do last year, a team that maybe
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Speaker 3: isn't expected to win the division, but have all the
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Speaker 3: makings and the parts to go on a deep run
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Speaker 3: in the postseason. Do you still feel that way after
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Speaker 3: you know, a handful of games to start the season.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I was going to say the role model for
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Speaker 2: the twenty six Oriols of the twenty five Blue Jays
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Speaker 2: who gained twenty wins and went to the top of
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Speaker 2: the Vision. The Oriols would obviously love to go seventy
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Speaker 2: five to ninety five. That's tougher when you start three
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Speaker 2: and six. So right now, all the good vibes from spring,
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Speaker 2: where they had great chemistry, Everything Albernez was doing was working,
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Speaker 2: you know, Pete Alonzo couldn't do anything wrong, and so
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Speaker 2: we need to see that again because some of those
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Speaker 2: vibes get washed away in a three and six start,
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Speaker 2: And right now the Oriols haven't had much to hang
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Speaker 2: their hat on. The rotation outside of Rogers and one
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Speaker 2: Boss start has been shaky. The defense has really had
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Speaker 2: some lapses, both physical and mental, and some of the
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Speaker 2: key hitters Alonzo and Gunner are really not locked in yet.
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Speaker 2: So that's still to come a work in progress, but
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Speaker 2: the Oriols certainly hope as the year goes on they
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Speaker 2: are going to rank higher than eleventh in the league.
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Speaker 2: In Runsberg game.
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Speaker 4: Was part of hitting is you have to hit together
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Speaker 4: cohesively as a lineup. It's not it's an it's a
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Speaker 4: team game played by individuals, not an individual game played
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Speaker 4: by teams. Do you feel like I get it, it's
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Speaker 4: only nine games, but the lack of consistent cohesive lineup
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Speaker 4: affects some of these guys, even though some of them
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Speaker 4: have played together. They pluy, they plunk Ward into the lineup,
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Speaker 4: they plunk Pete Alonso into the lineup. And now O'Neil
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Speaker 4: is actually in the lineup and he's healthy unlike other years.
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Speaker 4: Do you feel like this lineup cohesiveness where there's not
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Speaker 4: much Kobe Mayo Alexander's play and like they're they're just
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Speaker 4: almost trying to mix and match too much early on
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Speaker 4: because it's not working out well.
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Speaker 2: Maybe, but I mean they have had the same top
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Speaker 2: three for all nine games. They've had Ward first, Gunner second,
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Speaker 2: and Alonzo third fourth. They've had retchmen in sometimes Pasao
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Speaker 2: if Posio is starting a catcher, so there's been some
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Speaker 2: line of consistency at the top. And so I just
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Speaker 2: think they just don't have enough guys hitting right now,
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Speaker 2: and that will change, because if there's one thing that's
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Speaker 2: an expectation for the twenty six Orioles, it's they're going
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Speaker 2: to score some runs. A good young Corps Gunner, Adelie Kowser,
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Speaker 2: and then the veteran guys Ward added to the mix
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Speaker 2: with Alonso. So they just haven't got rolling yet. I
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Speaker 2: mean they've scored two runs the less five times. That's
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Speaker 2: just not good enough. So and Brett Bradbrock made a
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Speaker 2: good point at our show last night that he said,
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Speaker 2: you know, some good things have happened at the bottom
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Speaker 2: of the order, and he thinks the lineup will be
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Speaker 2: good throughout and then the bottom will kick off some
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Speaker 2: things for the top as some guys get yelling. But
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Speaker 2: right now, Kobe meyos three for twenty, Kowser's had some
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Speaker 2: good at bats, some not. You know, Samuel Bissio hasn't
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Speaker 2: gotten locked in yet. So a lot of guys really
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Speaker 2: outside of Ward maybe are not really swinging it right now.
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Speaker 3: I know it's still a relative small sample sign in
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Speaker 3: Attlee Rushman's career, but the stats say when he goes
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Speaker 3: this Oriole team goes. Do you still believe he's kind
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Speaker 3: of the catalyst for their lineup or do you think
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Speaker 3: some of that responsibility has kind of been pushed off
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Speaker 3: into more of a pied Alonzo Taylor, Ward, Gunner, Henderson Trio.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's one of many right now. He
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Speaker 2: doesn't have to be the straw that stirs at so
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Speaker 2: to speak, he or Gunner, and I think that'll be
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Speaker 2: a relief to those guys. But Rutchman, I should have
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Speaker 2: mentioned he and He and Ward have really been the
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Speaker 2: two guys getting off the good starts. And Rutchmond the
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Speaker 2: signs are good all over. His exit velocity is up.
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Speaker 2: He's actually attacked a couple first pitches, which he almost
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Speaker 2: has never done in the past, with some good results.
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Speaker 2: He's hitting the ball harder, he's swinging and missing almost
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Speaker 2: you know, completely putting balls in play. So the the
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Speaker 2: statcast metrics right now, if you look at his page,
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Speaker 2: it's all in the red. It looks very good for Rutchmand.
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Speaker 2: But in fairness, he got off to a really good
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Speaker 2: start last year and by the end of April was
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Speaker 2: not hitting. So I think Oil fans want to see more.
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Speaker 4: Well, you said early on or even throughout the year,
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Speaker 4: it's gonna be a team that's gonna score runs. They'll
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Speaker 4: get Jackson Holiday back, all that stuff. The rotation, the
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Speaker 4: rotation against the Pirates team that it's improved, but I
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Speaker 4: think they had almost an eight e r A in
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Speaker 4: the Pirates series. Is this something that can be remedied
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Speaker 4: with a better Kyle Braddis with a consistent Shane Boz
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Speaker 4: being out there who actually had, you know, had a
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Speaker 4: great start. You can only throw Tyler rod Rogers a
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Speaker 4: couple times one time, you know, every five days. But
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Speaker 4: is this rotation really just gonna be this the entire
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Speaker 4: year or have there been signs in some of this
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Speaker 4: losing that Okay, they're throwing strikes but they're unlucky or
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Speaker 4: something like that that Orioles fans can be like, Okay,
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Speaker 4: we'll take this with a grain of salt.
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Speaker 2: Well, they just have underperformed so far. Outside of Trevor
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Speaker 2: Rodgers the games he started, he's pitched all one thirty
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Speaker 2: eight and the Oriels are two and oh the other
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Speaker 2: seven games the rotation era is six thirty seven and
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Speaker 2: they are one and six. They've really only gotten one
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Speaker 2: other good started with Shane Bobs Saturday when he went
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Speaker 2: five and two thirds one unnerned run aloud in that
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Speaker 2: game against the Pirates. But you know, Chris Bassett two
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Speaker 2: starts as the ra is fourteen he's just not locating
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Speaker 2: right now, and so Zach Eflin is already on the
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Speaker 2: injured list, going to see doctor Meister in Texas tomorrow,
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Speaker 2: and that sounds ominous. So Dean Kramer started the year
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Speaker 2: Triple A, is pitched once and he could be back.
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Speaker 2: Brandon Young is getting called up to make the start tonight,
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Speaker 2: and then Rogers turns over the rotation back at the
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Speaker 2: top tomorrow and Bradish has to get going. He's at
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Speaker 2: two unbradish like starts, so else feel good about their rotation,
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Speaker 2: but right now the numbers don't support that, and they
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Speaker 2: feel like it's obviously got to get better because outside
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Speaker 2: of Rogers, if you have everybody else pitching to a six,
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Speaker 2: that's not going to work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking injuries, what sort of update do you have
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Speaker 3: on Jackson Holiday and his timeframe? When do they expect
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Speaker 3: him to be back in the lineup?
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Speaker 2: I think soon, And there was even some Birdland fans
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Speaker 2: hope that tonight could be that because I think he
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Speaker 2: might have gotten scratched from a doubleheader game too last night.
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Speaker 2: But he's only had about fifteen or twenty at bats
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Speaker 2: in Triple A, so if they wanted to rush him
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Speaker 2: back this series, they probably could, but I think the
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Speaker 2: thinking is give him another few games. This is his
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Speaker 2: spring training. He's only had you know, less than really
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Speaker 2: two weeks at Triple A, and then he'll get back
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Speaker 2: there and then we'll see how they use them. You know,
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Speaker 2: they really like what Blaize Alexander has done so far
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Speaker 2: since they acquired him, playing really good defense. He's had
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Speaker 2: some couple clutch hits already. But Jackson Holliday and Jordan
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Speaker 2: Westburg right now, yeah, they're without two of their starting infielders.
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Speaker 4: All right, we talked about rotation, lineup, bullpen. We haven't
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Speaker 4: hit on I'm not even gonna hit on it yet.
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Speaker 4: But my question is when you look at the beginning
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Speaker 4: of a season, yes, it matters who you play. And
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Speaker 4: the beginning of this season they have played the Rangers,
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Speaker 4: who were supposed to be a good team. The Twins
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Speaker 4: are supposed to be bad, the Pirates. Everybody thinks the
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Speaker 4: Pirates are bad, and now they go to the White Sox.
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Speaker 4: Shouldn't this have been a six and three start or
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Speaker 4: a nine and three or seven and four start because
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Speaker 4: of the fact that later on in April is when
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Speaker 4: they first start to hit the American League Beast, that
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Speaker 4: is the American League East. So is this more of
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Speaker 4: an eyebrow raising start that could make people a little
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Speaker 4: bit more nervous than it should in the beginning of April?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. So I think what people are
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Speaker 2: having flashbacks because after nine games last year they were
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Speaker 2: four and five already like three games out. Now they're
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Speaker 2: three and six and they're four games out, and they
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Speaker 2: just have looked bad doing it. Again. There's been physical errors,
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Speaker 2: mental errors, a couple pfps messed up, Bradish not pitched,
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Speaker 2: not locked in yet, Alonso not locked in Gunner. So
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Speaker 2: guys they feel good about obviously, these are some of
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Speaker 2: the best players on the team and maybe in the
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Speaker 2: league that are gonna go. But right now they're not
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Speaker 2: so Oriel fans are having flashbacks. I mean last year
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Speaker 2: it extended to twelve and eighteen the start, and then
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Speaker 2: in mid May Brandon Hyde was dismissed and they never
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Speaker 2: really got back in it. So we know, you know,
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Speaker 2: the Nationals a couple of years ago, fifty games were
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Speaker 2: under five hundred by like fifteen games who won the
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Speaker 2: World Series. So you can overcome it. But again, when
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Speaker 2: you won seventy five, when you had a terrible start
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Speaker 2: last year, and you have to be honest with the
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Speaker 2: fans here. They look the right now as they did
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Speaker 2: early on last year. There is a concern level their
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Speaker 2: first eighteen games on paper, we're against non playoff teams
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Speaker 2: from last year and now they're halfway through that.
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Speaker 3: Is there any concern in the Baltimore area with Pete
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Speaker 3: Alonso's batspeed being down a little bit early in the season,
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Speaker 3: orld you kind of chalk that up maybe to playing
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Speaker 3: in a new division for the first time, maybe not
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Speaker 3: having as much confidence facing some of the guys he's
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Speaker 3: been seeing.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's that concern yet, But I mean,
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Speaker 2: if he's hitting two fifteen in another couple of weeks,
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Speaker 2: people will start dissecting this more and more and you know,
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Speaker 2: start looking for him to get it done. But right now,
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Speaker 2: he's still in the honeymoon phase with those fans. He's
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Speaker 2: just been incredible with the fans. He's been great with
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Speaker 2: his teammates. He's so engaged. He was that way off spring,
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Speaker 2: you know, calling mound meetings and spring training games to say,
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Speaker 2: we got to clean it up. And so you know,
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Speaker 2: the scenes, who knows what he's doing with the players.
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Speaker 2: You are in the clubhouse right now, but I'm sure
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Speaker 2: he's taking a role because he's quickly become the leader
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Speaker 2: of the Orioles. I think the even the clubhouse is
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Speaker 2: all for that, the fans are all for that. So
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Speaker 2: right now, no one's getting on Pete Lonzo's case. But
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Speaker 2: another week or two of his mediocre baseball and that
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Speaker 2: could change.
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Speaker 1: Hey, we're still in the honeymoon phase.
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Speaker 2: We better be with Berlin Territory. It just launched, yes too,
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Speaker 2: give us a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 1: I'm loving it. First episode was great, awesome to have
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Speaker 1: you on here. Yes, it was a long time coming,
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Speaker 1: but I think it ends up in the perfect spot.
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Speaker 1: So congrats on the first show. Looking forward to the
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Speaker 1: next one, probably on Wednesday night.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve, you got it, guys, anytime, have a
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Speaker 2: great show.
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Speaker 1: Something else from the weekend that now feels like a
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Speaker 1: million years ago.
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Speaker 3: KP.
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Speaker 1: Connor Griffin made his debut, the much anticipated debut of
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Speaker 1: a teenager who is asked to help the Pirates get
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Speaker 1: back to the postseason. They had a huge weekend sweeping
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Speaker 1: the Oriols. We'll get to that part later when we
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Speaker 1: talk Oriols with Steve but for now he had one knock,
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Speaker 1: so he's won for nine. That knock happened to come
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Speaker 1: in his first at bat, where he drove in a
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Speaker 1: run and then later scored. The cool part for me
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Speaker 1: was how he mentioned that he had used hit tracks
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Speaker 1: and simmed basically that moment many times. To me, that
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Speaker 1: was cool and spoke to the modern technology that does
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Speaker 1: help hitters. There's more to help pitchers, but there there's
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Speaker 1: a little bit to help hitters.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, all nineteen years of his life,
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Speaker 3: he's been preparing for that moment. You know. Typically, you know,
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Speaker 3: it'd be something I would start doing after college, going
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Speaker 3: through the minor leagues, maybe in the off season that
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Speaker 3: come home and start kind of dreaming about, you know,
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Speaker 3: obviously drafted by the Blue Jays, about hitting in the
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Speaker 3: Rogers Center.
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Speaker 2: And getting used to it. So it's just kind of
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Speaker 2: funny when you.
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Speaker 3: Hear it from a nineteen year old's perspective, like, oh,
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Speaker 3: I've been doing it my whole life.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well, it's really nineteen years of your life.
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Speaker 3: But the thing that the biggest thing that I took away,
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Speaker 3: except that he looks the part at nineteen years old.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, he's one for nine.
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Speaker 3: But if you watch the at bath and to me,
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Speaker 3: I tuned in because I mean, it's kind of historic
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Speaker 3: to have a nineteen year old kind of play shortstop
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Speaker 3: in the major leagues. But we always talk about, you know,
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Speaker 3: when you put a good product on the field, or
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Speaker 3: when you have a prospect with this much hype. I
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Speaker 3: just looked at the city of Pittsburgh and the stadium
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Speaker 3: there and what it looked like and what it could be.
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Speaker 3: And you know, obviously they're rolling right now. So it's
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Speaker 3: a team to watch, and you know, hopefully once again
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Speaker 3: it's a reminder to all these owners if you go
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Speaker 3: out and spend a little bit of money, you put
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Speaker 3: a good product on the field. You have the number
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Speaker 3: one prospect in baseball, and you allow him to go
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Speaker 3: out there and play, you're going to reap the benefits
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Speaker 3: of people coming and being excited.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Pirates look pretty damn good right now from
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Speaker 1: a run prevention standpoint. Also, for as much crap as
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Speaker 1: O'Neil Cruz got in center field in the first few
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Speaker 1: days of the season, KP and most people aren't wrong.
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Speaker 1: He certainly has worked do there. He's hitting, he's got
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Speaker 1: four homers. He looks much better. I think he's already
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Speaker 1: got more homers against lefties now than he has all
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Speaker 1: of last year. So things are moving in the right
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Speaker 1: direction for the team. I know we talk a lot
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Speaker 1: about schemes and now we'll talk about Connor Griffin, but
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Speaker 1: it's really about the rest. Like there is a star
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Speaker 1: or two there, going back to Andrew McCutchen in his prime,
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Speaker 1: it's hey, are you going to fill out the rest
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Speaker 1: of the roster. They've definitely done a better job of
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Speaker 1: that heading into this year. I think there's no doubt
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Speaker 1: about that. Will it be sustainable, I don't know.
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Speaker 3: We'll find out, but yeah, I mean I love what
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Speaker 3: they did this offseason. They went out and they made
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Speaker 3: some moves. And did they go out and acquire you know,
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Speaker 3: we're signed some superstars.
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Speaker 2: No, but they got some.
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Speaker 3: Very good major league quality baseball players to kind of
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Speaker 3: round out their roster. And if you look at their
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Speaker 3: lineup one through nine, it's a much deeper lineup than
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Speaker 3: it has ever been and allows guys like O'Neil, Cruz
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Speaker 3: and Reynolds at the top of the order to have
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Speaker 3: some more protection as that lineup gets a little bit
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Speaker 3: towards the bottom. But you know O'Neil Cruz got hammered
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Speaker 3: early in the season and then probably rightfully so because
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Speaker 3: some of those plays he made. You know, a majority
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Speaker 3: of major league center fielders go out and make those plays.
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Speaker 4: One.
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Speaker 3: It's not an easy transition when you've been an infielder
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Speaker 3: your entire life to go out and play center field.
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Speaker 3: And then I've heard people talk about take him out
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Speaker 3: of centerfield and put him in a corner, and I say,
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Speaker 3: that's the worst decision you can make. As someone who
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Speaker 3: played center field for the majority of his career and
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Speaker 3: then played the corners later. And I was always an
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Speaker 3: outfielder since I was probably in high school. I've been
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Speaker 3: an outfielder. Playing the corners is way more challenging, especially
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Speaker 3: for a guy who's never played the outfield before. Your
17:34
Speaker 3: easiest reads are going to be in center field. Yes,
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Speaker 3: sometimes you have to deal with the sun. You got
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Speaker 3: to deal with that everywhere you go. But he just
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Speaker 3: needs to continue to work out there. They need to
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Speaker 3: continue to build confidence in him out there. It's gonna
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Speaker 3: be it's gonna there's gonna be some ups and downs.
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Speaker 3: Whenever you take a guy uh from the middle endfield
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Speaker 3: and put him in center field.
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Speaker 2: But he's an athletic guy. He's going to figure it
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Speaker 2: out eventually.
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Speaker 1: Also, the staft by the way too on the run
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Speaker 1: wrench and sidecrats is the rotation is the only one
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Speaker 1: in MLB right now without allowing a homer. Again, it's
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Speaker 1: only a week and a half, but the nine game
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Speaker 1: streak is the longest to start a season in baseball
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Speaker 1: since the twenty eighteen Giants. Pretty tough to go a
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Speaker 1: week and a half without getting up a home run
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Speaker 1: from your rotation.
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Speaker 4: This starting rotation is really good, even getting rid of
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Speaker 4: some of the guys that they got rid of, like,
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Speaker 4: it's a good starting rotation with good defense. So let
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Speaker 4: the boys make the plays and don't let it go
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Speaker 4: out of the ballpark.
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Speaker 5: Yep.