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Increasing Our Life-Force Energy with Clayten Stedmann and Jeffrey Stegman · The Trauma Therapist

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Trauma Therapist Podcast. My name is Guy McPherson.
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  Speaker 1: I interview incredible people who've dedicated their lives to helping
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  Speaker 1: those who've been impacted by trauma. A big thank you
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  Speaker 1: and one. Our folks, welcome back to the podcast. Super
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  Speaker 1: excited to have as my guests today, Clayton Stedman and
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Stegman. Gentlemen, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you, Guy.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So Clayton has worked in the education, training,
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  Speaker 1: and coaching business since 1995. From 1995 to 2020, he
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  Speaker 1: focused on business as a spiritual path in his coaching practice.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Stegman's focus has been on creating a high consciousness
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  Speaker 1: culture in his businesses, which parallels his own personal spiritual path.
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  Speaker 1: Focused life force energy began in 2008 when Clayton and
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey connected through a shared interest in high consciousness fields.
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  Speaker 1: Combining Jeffrey's engineering background with Clayton's expertise in consciousness, kinesthesiology,
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  Speaker 1: and the Hawkins scale of consciousness, they developed FLFE, a
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  Speaker 1: technology designed to direct life force energy to support higher
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  Speaker 1: states of awareness. All right, gentlemen, just a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about you before we get going. Share with our listeners
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  Speaker 1: where you're from originally and where you are currently. Jeffrey,
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  Speaker 1: why don't you start?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the middle of the United States in Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: and been here born and raised here and back and
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  Speaker 3: forth to Canada quite often to see Clayton and work
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  Speaker 3: on FLFE. Been in business, running businesses, manufacturing businesses really
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  Speaker 3: most of my life. And got introduced to this work
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  Speaker 3: by Clayton. He was a coach for me, a business coach.
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  Speaker 3: And really my interest is was personal development and business
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  Speaker 3: leadership development.
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  Speaker 4: Like, what's holding me back? What are the.
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  Speaker 3: Invisible things that are pulling me back from what I
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  Speaker 3: can be and what I can do?
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  Speaker 4: So that's how I.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to get... That's the meat. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to get to the meat. Hang on one second. Clayton,
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  Speaker 1: where are you from originally and where are you currently?
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  Speaker 2: I grew up in Ontario, Canada.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: About 45 miles from Toronto. And I went west because
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  Speaker 2: the song says, go west, young man. So that's where
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  Speaker 2: I went and ended up in Vancouver. And I spent
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  Speaker 2: most of my coaching career in Vancouver. I moved up
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  Speaker 2: to Nelson in 2007 was the first time I moved
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  Speaker 2: to the area. And we started FLFE in 2013. So
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  Speaker 2: my interest is in consciousness. I spent 11 years in
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  Speaker 2: an Eastern-based philosophy Well, I was working for private schools
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  Speaker 2: in Vancouver, and there was a sort of big scandal
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  Speaker 2: in the Eastern-based philosophy, and I made a transition into
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  Speaker 2: kind of a serious career in the coaching industry. That
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  Speaker 2: was back in 1995. And I ended up specializing in
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  Speaker 2: business as a spiritual path, and that's how I met Jeff,
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  Speaker 2: and came across Dr. Hawkins' work in 2004, and that
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  Speaker 2: was another fork in the road for me. And since then,
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  Speaker 2: I've been focused on creating the optimal conditions for the
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  Speaker 2: evolution of consciousness in our current society, which is the vision,
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  Speaker 2: which is the mission that Jeff and I share for FLFE.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So, Jeffrey, give us the broad overview of what
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  Speaker 1: FLFE is. And then I kind of want to go
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  Speaker 1: back and talk about more specifically how you met and
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  Speaker 1: how this came to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the broad overview of FLFE is, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: our understanding of consciousness fields, that consciousness fields are everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: They're all around us. And there's high consciousness fields, a
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  Speaker 3: place where you might go and feel really uplifted and energized,
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  Speaker 3: and places where you might go and you don't feel good,
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  Speaker 3: feel maybe worried or scared.
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  Speaker 4: Or low energy.
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  Speaker 3: And FLFE is the activation of a high consciousness field
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  Speaker 3: in a space. Around a home, business, or around a
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  Speaker 3: cell phone or object. So consciousness fields are really our work.
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  Speaker 1: When you say it's the activation of a field, what
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  Speaker 1: do you mean by that?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just like if you turned on electricity to an
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  Speaker 3: electromagnet and you would get a magnetic field. And you
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  Speaker 3: can measure the shape of that field and the size
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  Speaker 3: of it through instruments. A consciousness field will open in
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  Speaker 3: that same way. Now, we can do it personally. Like
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  Speaker 3: if you think of someone, you're connecting to them in
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  Speaker 3: a quantum way. And there's research behind that. And we
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  Speaker 3: experience it every day. As you think of someone and
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  Speaker 3: they call you a minute later, they're opening that field
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  Speaker 3: around you when they're thinking of you while they're dialing.
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  Speaker 4: And then there they are. So we're talking.
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  Speaker 1: About, is this different than, say, energy fields like Reiki
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  Speaker 1: or similar?
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  Speaker 2: Similar.
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  Speaker 3: Very similar to, it's, FLFV is very similar to Reiki,
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  Speaker 3: where you basically, the consciousness field is open, a Reiki
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  Speaker 3: practitioner who's working remotely has to have an identifier, like
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  Speaker 3: a photo or an email address for the person, and
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  Speaker 3: they're then focusing on that. There's a field that opens
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  Speaker 3: around that person, and then the healing information starts to
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  Speaker 3: flow through the Reiki treatment.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so thank you for that. Clayton, bring us back.
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  Speaker 1: How did this start? You talked a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: how you met Jeffrey. Take us there and let's dive
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  Speaker 1: in here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was facing an extraordinary health challenge back in 2007,
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  Speaker 2: one that my father had recently passed over from and
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  Speaker 2: one that my mother had, life-threatening for her. And I
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  Speaker 2: was looking for alternative treatments for this condition. So I
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  Speaker 2: had quite a bit of experience with kinesiology at the time.
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  Speaker 2: I created an assessment for measuring people's consciousness in different
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  Speaker 2: parts of their life and then calibrated the level of
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  Speaker 2: appropriateness of different tools to help with the intervention part
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  Speaker 2: of the coaching process where people want to change. So
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  Speaker 2: I was using that perspective to measure the appropriateness of
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  Speaker 2: different interventions for my own health. And I came across
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  Speaker 2: a technology that was originally intended to be a free
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  Speaker 2: energy device, but it hadn't turned out that way. But
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  Speaker 2: they had stumbled across a way to focus life force
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  Speaker 2: energy on objects in a high consciousness field in a machine, right?
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  Speaker 2: So I spent a lot of time with this inventor,
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  Speaker 2: and we started... adding positive consciousness fields and positive energy
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  Speaker 2: to the environment around me. And I think it played
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  Speaker 2: a substantial part in my healing.
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  Speaker 1: How did you add that positive energy around yourself?
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  Speaker 2: Specifically, what mechanism did you use? Yeah, so in this technology,
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  Speaker 2: originally there's a, so you had this technology, it has
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  Speaker 2: all these, like a big Tesla lab. Imagine all these
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  Speaker 2: big stacks of plates and crystals and cones. And there
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  Speaker 2: was an input stack where the energy came down from
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  Speaker 2: the ether, and then it went to an output stack
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  Speaker 2: where it would go out, right? So at the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of the output stack, there was a space with a
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  Speaker 2: high consciousness field. And if you put a picture of
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  Speaker 2: a person in there, that's the unique identifier that Jeff
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  Speaker 2: talked about or the unique identifier that the Reiki practitioner
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  Speaker 2: would use. And that picture was the unique identifier for me,
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  Speaker 2: and that high consciousness field in the machine would go
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  Speaker 2: around me. That's how it worked. And then we would
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  Speaker 2: put information in the field. We would make a request
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  Speaker 2: or make a positive declarative statement in that high consciousness
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  Speaker 2: field to have my body do certain positive things, like
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  Speaker 2: add energy to this part of the body for healing, right,
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  Speaker 2: and where the sickness was. And so that's how that worked. And,
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  Speaker 2: of course, I was doing lots of other alternative therapies,
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  Speaker 2: so-called alternative therapies, enzyme therapy, alkaline diet, alkaline water, you know, Reiki.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing, well, they call it the desperate man syndrome, DMS.
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  Speaker 2: When you're really sick and desperate, you'll try just about anything.
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  Speaker 2: And I was doing lots of things. So this was
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  Speaker 2: one of the, and this was one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I believed helped me turn the corner on my health.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Jeffrey, where do you come in during the
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  Speaker 1: founding of this company?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I was working with Clayton.
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  Speaker 3: He was a consciousness coach in my business and personal development,
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  Speaker 3: personal life. And so I became very comfortable with his
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  Speaker 3: kinesiology testing of my levels of consciousness in various.
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  Speaker 4: Aspects of my life.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, he would find these that were really well
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  Speaker 3: hidden most of the time, even from me, but other
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  Speaker 3: You know, no one else would know that these things existed.
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  Speaker 3: You know, something that happened with my father at a
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  Speaker 3: certain period of my life. Other things that were tied
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  Speaker 3: to trauma events that I might have had. Those were
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  Speaker 3: able to be revealed through this testing that my level
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  Speaker 3: of consciousness was low in these particular areas of myself.
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  Speaker 3: My emotional age was low in those certain areas. I
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  Speaker 3: became comfortable with that testing because it revealed over and
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  Speaker 3: over things that I knew or that were ahas for me.
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  Speaker 3: So that was how I became acquainted with Clayton and
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  Speaker 3: his ability to test that. Then I ran across a
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  Speaker 3: family where I lived where the boy was going through
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  Speaker 3: a similar health challenge to Clayton's. And so he said, well,
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  Speaker 3: let's go see the inventor. And I walked in this small,
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  Speaker 3: modest home that was as Clayton said, these floor-to-ceiling Tesla-like
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  Speaker 3: apparatus that fill this entire first floor of the house.
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  Speaker 3: And it was high-speed alternating current. And I went in
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  Speaker 3: and they said, well, go ahead and put your hand
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  Speaker 3: in the output stack. It was very, very tingly. And
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  Speaker 3: I had almost like an enlightenment experience just walking in
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  Speaker 3: the door. And we went to lunch, and I had
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  Speaker 3: this experience where I would look at everyone in the restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: I could see what was special. about them, what was
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  Speaker 3: their gift, and I never had that before. I thought, well,
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  Speaker 3: something's going on here. This is not normal. But when
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  Speaker 3: we started to see the way that these consciousness fields,
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  Speaker 3: these higher levels of consciousness, just being in them, just
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  Speaker 3: like walking into them, can have a profound effect on ourself.
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  Speaker 1: What is the difference between an energy field and a
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  Speaker 1: consciousness field?
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  Speaker 3: I would say there's definitely overlaps, right? Because consciousness has energy.
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  Speaker 3: There's even an electrical component to consciousness, apparently, according to Dr.
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  Speaker 4: Hawkins.
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  Speaker 3: But you can have a high energy field. You could
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  Speaker 3: have a very strong magnetic field that's a high energy field.
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  Speaker 3: You can even have a high electromagnetic field of high energy.
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  Speaker 4: But a consciousness.
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  Speaker 3: it's a different animal. Some people believe it underlies everything.
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  Speaker 3: But we know that as we walk around the world,
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  Speaker 3: some places feel good and some places don't feel good.
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  Speaker 4: They feel bad.
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  Speaker 3: So there's this energetic environment that underlies our experience as
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  Speaker 3: a human in the world. And that's really what's got
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  Speaker 3: us like, okay, there's a lot here to unpack.
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  Speaker 2: So.
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  Speaker 1: I want to make sure we kind of keep this
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  Speaker 1: at a fundamental level for our listeners here because we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of, obviously, therapists and coaches, mental health
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  Speaker 1: practitioners of all kinds, Reiki practitioners, energy practice practitioners who
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  Speaker 1: speak the same language. But around every person, we meet someone,
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  Speaker 1: we can feel their quote-unquote energies. Is that different from
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  Speaker 1: feeling or understanding their level of consciousness?
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  Speaker 2: Well, a high consciousness field includes and transcends a high
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  Speaker 2: energy field. A person could have a high energy field,
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  Speaker 2: and they may not be a positive person. They may
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  Speaker 2: be very fit.
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  Speaker 1: Right, they could be, right, okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could be very fit, very vital, youthful, you know,
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  Speaker 2: have a great diet, they look good, and they're troubled.
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  Speaker 2: They're a very troubled person. A high consciousness field, the
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  Speaker 2: inference is that, you know, you're moving towards love, towards
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  Speaker 2: unconditional love, towards.
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  Speaker 1: Peace, right?
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  Speaker 2: So consciousness has a, it's a quality of the information
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  Speaker 2: in the field, Guy. We will call it the information
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  Speaker 2: in the field. So the information in the auric field
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  Speaker 2: of that person, which, you know, I'm sure you've heard
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  Speaker 2: about or many of your listeners would hear about, there
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  Speaker 2: is a loving presence in that person's field, right? Their aura,
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  Speaker 2: you could say, their consciousness field, which is at the
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  Speaker 2: same level that FLFE is set at on the Hawkins
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  Speaker 2: scale of consciousness. FLFE is set at the default of 550,
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  Speaker 2: which is the unconditional love zone, right? So if you
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  Speaker 2: try FLFE on your home, your home will go to
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  Speaker 2: the level of consciousness of unconditional love, right? Which helps
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  Speaker 2: obviously regulate the nervous system, which helps release trauma because
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  Speaker 2: the body is resourced to do that. And it creates
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  Speaker 2: an environment for a high consciousness field environment for all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of other good things to happen. Way more life
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  Speaker 2: force energy, unconditional love. And, you know, we have other
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  Speaker 2: studies that I could go into, but, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to keep talking.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So that clarifies things a little bit here. So
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  Speaker 1: what do you do at FLFE specifically? How do you
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  Speaker 1: work with individuals?
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  Speaker 3: So the way that we're working with individuals is through
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  Speaker 3: the environment that they live in, and that they're in.
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  Speaker 2: 24-7, basically.
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  Speaker 3: Because we believe that when you're in a high consciousness environment,
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  Speaker 3: you're supported to rise in consciousness, and you're supported to
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  Speaker 3: integrate those traumatized, perhaps disassociated parts of yourself that are
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  Speaker 3: protecting something, they were doing their job, that they really,
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  Speaker 3: we needed at the time to survive or to feel
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  Speaker 3: like we needed to survive. So in that unconditional love zone, people,
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  Speaker 3: those start to come up for healing. They start to
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  Speaker 3: rise in consciousness and rise in emotional age and start
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  Speaker 3: to integrate with the rest of the system.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's a.
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  Speaker 3: Natural process And so our way of working with individuals
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  Speaker 3: is by having the environment support them to do the
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  Speaker 3: work themselves consciously, but also to unconsciously have this process
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  Speaker 3: support them.
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  Speaker 4: So that's, you know, we work.
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  Speaker 3: Through the environment rather than have something, you know, quote-unquote
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  Speaker 3: directed at individuals.
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  Speaker 1: How do you work through that environment, Jeffrey? What's the mechanism?
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  Speaker 1: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so again, when I walked in that original inventor's place,
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  Speaker 3: there was that spot where I put my hand, which
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  Speaker 3: is a very high consciousness field, very high energy as well.
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  Speaker 3: That was the place that created this connection with that
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  Speaker 3: unique identifier that we talked about. So what happens is
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  Speaker 3: people go on the FLFP free trial or they go
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  Speaker 3: on the service and it's like their unique identifier of
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  Speaker 3: their property, their address, goes into that space in that
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  Speaker 3: original inventor space. Now, it's advanced tremendously since then, but
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  Speaker 3: the concept is the same, is that as you go
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  Speaker 3: on to a free trial or become a subscriber, that
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  Speaker 3: your property is now a consciousness field opens. So, To
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  Speaker 3: the boundary of that property, it's now unconditional love level.
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  Speaker 4: It's like you.
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  Speaker 1: I can understand walking into a room, putting my hand
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  Speaker 1: on something and feeling that energy. But now you're talking...
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  Speaker 1: This is remote. Yes. Yes. Okay, explain that.
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  Speaker 3: So it's very much like you think of someone and
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  Speaker 3: they call you a minute later. So you've got that
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  Speaker 3: personal connection where they've... As they're dialing, they're thinking of you,
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  Speaker 3: you start thinking of them. So the same as we
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  Speaker 3: talked about with Reiki, distant Reiki, there's this kind of
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  Speaker 3: projection of consciousness or this quantum connection that occurs.
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  Speaker 4: And that's happening in.
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  Speaker 3: The same way here, that this quantum connection is occurring
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  Speaker 3: with the property. And just as like a Reiki practitioner now,
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  Speaker 3: there's a field and there's information in the field that
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  Speaker 3: is part of our FLFE system to support for us,
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  Speaker 3: the evolution of consciousness, for us to rise and transcend trauma.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Wow. Clayton, so someone comes on. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: how did you decide maybe we can do this? What's
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  Speaker 1: the thought process that goes into this, we can do
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  Speaker 1: this remotely? We can... Break it down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it changed my life, and I started experimenting with
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  Speaker 2: the original group of inventors. And so just before 2012,
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  Speaker 2: there was a lot of concerns that humanity was in
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  Speaker 2: a transition that wasn't going to turn out well. And
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  Speaker 2: Jeff and I started doing service work. Pre-2012, we would
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  Speaker 2: go on to Google Earth. We would calibrate the level
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  Speaker 2: of consciousness of the continent. We would put a version
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  Speaker 2: of FLFE on the lowest consciousness part of the continent
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  Speaker 2: And then the whole continent would go up. Not a lot,
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  Speaker 2: but it would go up a little bit. And we
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  Speaker 2: would go around the Earth and find these low spots
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  Speaker 2: like the Cambodia killing fields, the gas chambers, and Poland
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  Speaker 2: with the war zones different places like that that were
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  Speaker 2: evidently low self evidently low we would test them with
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  Speaker 2: kinesiology we would put FLFE on them an old version
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  Speaker 2: the whole area would go up in consciousness all sorts
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  Speaker 2: of interesting things would happen energetically in the environment and
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  Speaker 2: the surrounding area would go up and so when you
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  Speaker 2: So there's a thing called the critical factor guy where
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  Speaker 2: you find an area that takes the least amount of
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  Speaker 2: effort to change the energy of the system. Right? So
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  Speaker 2: we would use that on an area and then we
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  Speaker 2: would and then we did that for a whole year.
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  Speaker 2: We were doing it like every morning before 2012 December 21st.
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  Speaker 2: And so after we finished, you know, the world didn't
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  Speaker 2: come to an end and about a month later we
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  Speaker 2: were just hanging out one day and We usually do
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  Speaker 2: a little prayer before we have a meeting, and it
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  Speaker 2: felt like we were guided to do this as a
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  Speaker 2: business because we could do a lot more good in
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  Speaker 2: the world. I mean, I was a coach. I was
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  Speaker 2: in practice for 25 years. I was well-trained. I went
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  Speaker 2: to three schools, taught two, had a practice. I could
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  Speaker 2: do a lot more good in the world, I believed,
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  Speaker 2: with FLFE if it turned out as good as it
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  Speaker 2: has turned out than I could ever do as an
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  Speaker 2: individual practitioner. So that was my, and I was looking
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  Speaker 2: to be of more service, so it was an answer
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  Speaker 2: to my prayers, really.
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  Speaker 1: So Jeffrey, you start this company, you start working. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about what you've seen with the people who you're working with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll mention this. We just started, and we were
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  Speaker 3: very beginning. We had a group of people that could
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  Speaker 3: feel the energy. They were sensitive people. and we did
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  Speaker 3: an experiment where we turned it on and off, and
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  Speaker 3: they told us whether it was on and off, and
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  Speaker 3: it was 100%. They could tell instantly when it went
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  Speaker 3: on and off. So what we find is when people
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  Speaker 3: go on the free trial, it happens instantly that the
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  Speaker 3: property goes up within a few seconds to unconditional love.
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  Speaker 3: And what people feel right away is.
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  Speaker 3: It's like when you go out into the country and
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  Speaker 3: you can take a deeper breath, it feels like something
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  Speaker 3: lifted off of me. And maybe it's a low-level anxiety.
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  Speaker 3: That's a feeling we hear about all the time. It's
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  Speaker 3: like my anxiety level just went down. I can take
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  Speaker 3: a deeper breath. Meditation becomes much easier. Contemplation. Sort of
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  Speaker 3: connection to self and others. where you can get a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of distance from your thoughts, like, wow, that's
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  Speaker 3: a negative thought I just had about myself. We hear this,
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  Speaker 3: that was one of the top research outcomes in one
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  Speaker 3: of our studies, is I can notice a negative thought
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  Speaker 3: that I'm having and I can transmute it to a
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  Speaker 3: positive thought. And so those, and forgiveness of self and others,
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  Speaker 3: that's another thing that happens in that experience. Better sleep
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  Speaker 3: is one that really happens often for people. So anxiety,
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  Speaker 3: better sleep, and then those kind of psychological benefits happen
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  Speaker 3: right away.
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  Speaker 1: So all positives. All good things, right? We can agree
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  Speaker 1: on that. In terms of, quote-unquote, healing, in terms of,
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  Speaker 1: you had mentioned trauma. Obviously, this is the trauma. How
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  Speaker 1: does that come in? How does the quote unquote healing
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  Speaker 1: of trauma happen? Are you making certain claims? Like we
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  Speaker 1: can help you do this or how does that work?
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  Speaker 2: Claims are pretty sticky, right? We don't make health claims.
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  Speaker 2: And in a loving family home, which would be at
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  Speaker 2: the level of unconditional love, which is less than 1%
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  Speaker 2: of the homes in the world. I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of, Homes that calibrate at love, but for unconditional love,
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  Speaker 2: that's another level of freedom, another level of consciousness, another
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  Speaker 2: level of loving. In a loving environment, it is easier
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  Speaker 2: for the nervous system to be self-regulated. It is easier
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  Speaker 2: for trauma to be released because there's a supportive environment
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  Speaker 2: around it, and the other people are typically more resourced
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  Speaker 2: as well to be present with what's going on at
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  Speaker 2: the time. and not dissociating as you might refer to it.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a lady in, there's a good story,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lady in Spain that we had on a
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  Speaker 2: podcast one day. A psychologist said she lived a blessed life,
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  Speaker 2: was in private practice for decades, and her husband just
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  Speaker 2: got diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, and another family member
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  Speaker 2: has just passed over. And for the first time in
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  Speaker 2: her life, she went into what she called a dark hole,
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  Speaker 2: a dark place that she couldn't get out of. And
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  Speaker 2: she was a very resourced woman. She lived a blessed life,
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  Speaker 2: highly accomplished, well respected by her peers. And she was struggling.
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  Speaker 2: And with the help of FLFE, she said she was
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  Speaker 2: able to pull herself out of that in a way
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  Speaker 2: that she wasn't able to do on her own yet.
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  Speaker 2: I assume that she would have, But the high consciousness field, right?
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  Speaker 2: So what happens, Guy, you know this, when people are
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  Speaker 2: sick and suffering, their energy is low. The people around
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  Speaker 2: them are triggered, right? And so that creates a consciousness field.
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  Speaker 2: So the level of consciousness, like when we do research
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  Speaker 2: in a person's, and I've seen this when my wife
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  Speaker 2: and I were shopping for a house. We went to
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  Speaker 2: this one house and someone had just died. And the
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  Speaker 2: energy in that bedroom was so low, it was almost
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  Speaker 2: like you couldn't breathe properly. Now, that might be like
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  Speaker 2: 50 on the Hawkins map of consciousness, which is despair, right?
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  Speaker 2: And it's very hard to operate. Now, what you would
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  Speaker 2: do is you would go in and clean that area.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you would smudge it. Maybe you would do some
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  Speaker 2: energetic healing on it. But if the environment is high,
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  Speaker 2: it just allows people to be more present with all
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  Speaker 2: of the unprocessed trauma, if you will, or unprocessed grieving
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  Speaker 2: that naturally occurs when something traumatic happens, right? environments like
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  Speaker 2: the office I'm in, the place that we're in, we
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  Speaker 2: have drywall in the walls. We have concrete in the floors.
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  Speaker 2: That's a form of crystal. It holds energy, right? So
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  Speaker 2: we're creating consciousness fields all the time. And a high
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  Speaker 2: consciousness field is just a more resilient environment that helps
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  Speaker 2: all of these things that us coaches and counselors and
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  Speaker 2: therapists are trying to help our clients with.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey, what word do you use to refer to this mechanism,
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  Speaker 1: the Tesla-like apparatus? What do you call that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, we call this, of course, the FLFE system, but
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  Speaker 3: the mechanism is a quantum association, sometimes called quantum entanglement,
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  Speaker 3: where there is this direct connection that's instant. across time
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  Speaker 3: and space. So we have customers in more than 90
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  Speaker 3: countries and they get on the free trial.
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  Speaker 4: It's an instant connection. So it is a quantum effect.
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  Speaker 1: So is this a machine or apparatus that you developed?
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 4: So we.
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  Speaker 3: Worked with the inventor. We supported him throughout his life.
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  Speaker 3: We took it and we miniaturized what was once in
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  Speaker 3: a whole house, you know, the whole first floor of
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  Speaker 3: a house became, you know, in a much smaller size. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: we were able to upgrade it in many, many different
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  Speaker 3: ways to increase the, uh, the power of it, but
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  Speaker 3: it still operates in essentially the same way. There's a
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  Speaker 3: highly energetic space that creates this connection. And we, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we have a way to connect it to, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a free trial link when you start or in to the,
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  Speaker 3: to the, uh, ongoing subscriptions and there's a control panel
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  Speaker 3: now that where you can control the system you can
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  Speaker 3: turn it on turn it off you can turn it
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  Speaker 3: up turn it down so and you can do these
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  Speaker 3: really high consciousness boosts that are way up in the
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  Speaker 3: enlightenment zone which create.
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  Speaker 4: A real like a reset of.
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  Speaker 3: The system Because they're so clean. It's such a clean
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  Speaker 3: and energetic experience that people really are refreshed by that.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's a quantum effect. It's a large-scale quantum effect.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Clayton, as we kind of wind down here, who
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  Speaker 1: was this designed for? I mean, to me, this sounds
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  Speaker 1: like anyone who would be interested in raising their consciousness,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a no-brainer, right? We're talking about Positivity, health, energy.
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  Speaker 1: But who would benefit from this, in your words? Who
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  Speaker 1: should come to the website and check it out?
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  Speaker 2: Well, so the mission is to create the optimal conditions
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  Speaker 2: for the evolution of consciousness. in our current society so
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  Speaker 2: that really covers the whole spectrum guy as you've said
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  Speaker 2: it's it's anybody who wants to be more free and
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  Speaker 2: i mean that that may sound like a platitude but
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  Speaker 2: that's really the intention of it and it's our position
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  Speaker 2: that higher states of consciousness are higher states of freedom
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  Speaker 2: freedom from the difficulties of the world, freedom from the
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  Speaker 2: challenges of being human, right? I mean, some parts of
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  Speaker 2: being human are extraordinary and fantastic. Humans are inherently, I think, amazing.
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  Speaker 2: And we struggle, typically. We struggle with our humanity and
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  Speaker 2: with connecting with other people and living a joyful life
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  Speaker 2: in the world that is part of the human condition
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  Speaker 2: that we evolve through that. So we... At first, we
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  Speaker 2: dealt with a lot of people like you who were
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  Speaker 2: interested in consciousness from a traditional therapeutic point of view
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  Speaker 2: because that was kind of my background. And then people
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  Speaker 2: in the media who, like Regina Meredith at Gaia, people
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  Speaker 2: like that were very supportive of us. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: becoming more of a focus for generalized wellness because the
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  Speaker 2: world of therapists and spiritual seekers It's traditionally, I think
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways to see loving people who
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  Speaker 2: are trying to develop themselves that's not necessarily, that they're
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  Speaker 2: not being coached or they're a coach or a therapist
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  Speaker 2: or in counseling or in a traditional religious path. Being
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  Speaker 2: a loving parent is a powerful spiritual path to be on.
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  Speaker 2: Being an integrative business owner is a very powerful spiritual path.
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to see, you know, we're moving in a
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  Speaker 2: direction of just trying to support more people to see
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  Speaker 2: that their so-called normal lives that, you know, they may
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  Speaker 2: not think as a spiritual path. If you're an integrous
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  Speaker 2: person trying to live a decent life and be an
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  Speaker 2: honest man or woman, you know, that's, I think that's
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  Speaker 2: just under-respected in our society. So we want to help
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  Speaker 2: more people, more people just understand that they, there's an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity for them to experience real freedom in an unacknowledged,
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  Speaker 2: it's like high consciousness fields are the elusive obvious. We
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  Speaker 2: think that conversation's worth having in the world and worth
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  Speaker 2: exploring and worth trying, worth taking advantage of.
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey, where else are people, can someone find a high
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  Speaker 1: consciousness field? I mean, it's got to be all around us.
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  Speaker 2: It is, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, go to a wedding.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just a wedding is at that love level,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because you're celebrating the love of a couple.
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  Speaker 3: There's lots of people that are part of that celebration
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  Speaker 3: that are there as family or friends or in the
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  Speaker 3: wedding party. So, you know, weddings are in that unconditional
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  Speaker 3: love zone. Any place of celebration and... Or meditation, like
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  Speaker 3: a meditation retreat center that maybe for decades and decades
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  Speaker 3: people have.
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  Speaker 4: Gone to and meditated there.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like any place of reoccurring positive human experience.
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  Speaker 1: And so the follow-up to that is, why should someone
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  Speaker 1: go to you guys? Hmm? I mean, are you the
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  Speaker 1: only source of high consciousness energy in the world?
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, each one of us is a source
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  Speaker 3: of high consciousness energy, and we can create these spaces
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  Speaker 3: in our house by meditating in the same place every
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  Speaker 3: day and create a high consciousness zone.
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  Speaker 4: But what we bring.
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  Speaker 3: And our mission is to support the evolution, and it's
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  Speaker 3: not that we... have to be there, right? It's just
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  Speaker 3: a support. And as we, and it's a 24 seven support.
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  Speaker 3: So we can, we can meditate and we can have
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  Speaker 3: intentions and we can hold those pretty well, maybe for
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  Speaker 3: an hour or two. And then, you know, it's what's
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  Speaker 3: the grocery list and what's going on next door. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's hard to hold those things. So this
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  Speaker 3: isn't holding that 24 seven for us. So that's one
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  Speaker 3: of the benefits. And humans are amazing and we can
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  Speaker 3: create these fields. And we can create low consciousness fields
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  Speaker 3: too that we could use help to clean up.
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  Speaker 4: And that's what we do. The other piece is EMF mitigation.
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  Speaker 3: So some people are sensitive, like there's a scale of
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  Speaker 3: sensitivity to EMFs. And as we're kind of in the
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  Speaker 3: pot coming to boil, there's a lot more EMF's energy
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  Speaker 3: around us. And we have done a whole series of
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  Speaker 3: scientific studies with Dr. Gary Schwartz, who's our research director, Harvard, Yale,
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  Speaker 3: University of.
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  Speaker 4: Arizona, where symptoms lower.
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  Speaker 3: So sometimes people come to us because they're suffering from EMFs,
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  Speaker 3: EMF symptoms.
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  Speaker 1: And for our listeners, EMF is?
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  Speaker 4: Electromagnetic fields.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Which includes like different frequencies of you know, electromagnetics. It
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  Speaker 3: could be a cell phone tower, you know, Wi-Fi, even
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  Speaker 3: smart appliances, things like that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, as we kind of wind down here,
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  Speaker 1: what's the best way for people to learn more about
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  Speaker 1: you and what you're doing and generating higher consciousness? What's
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  Speaker 1: the best way?
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  Speaker 2: Well, we have a website, the guy, it's flfe.net. And
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  Speaker 2: you can do a free trial with FLFE for two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: There's no credit card needed, so you can't get accidentally billed.
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  Speaker 2: And once you enter your address or your phone number,
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  Speaker 2: then the high consciousness field is activated either around an
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  Speaker 2: object such as a phone. You can take a necklace
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  Speaker 2: and do a picture of it around your neck. We
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  Speaker 2: can do something around a necklace or a ring. And
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  Speaker 2: then you get access to a control panel shortly after that,
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  Speaker 2: and you can go in and you can do consciousness
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  Speaker 2: boosts There's lots of resources in the control panel. There's
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  Speaker 2: one particular other thing that I think is a misunderstood
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  Speaker 2: benefit that is not necessarily a consciousness field issue, but
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  Speaker 2: I think would help a lot of your clients. I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to just mention that just quickly. So we did
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  Speaker 2: over 3,000 experiments on nutritional supplements to help us adapt
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  Speaker 2: to the high consciousness fields that we were in. And
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  Speaker 2: we found that after that three years of studies, we
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  Speaker 2: found a ratio of supplementation that is exactly in alignment
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  Speaker 2: with Charles Poliquin, who was the number one Olympic athlete
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  Speaker 2: trainer in the history of Canada, to neutrify the nervous system.
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  Speaker 2: And that is three parts, sorry, four parts omega-3s to
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  Speaker 2: one part, three or four parts omega-3s to one part magnesium.
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  Speaker 2: Magnesium by glycinate is typically what we would suggest and
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  Speaker 2: also lecithin and perhaps zinc. And what that does is,
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  Speaker 2: you know that critical factor idea we talked about earlier
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  Speaker 2: where you can put the least amount of effort in
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  Speaker 2: to get the most amount of gain? That helps the
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  Speaker 2: myelin sheath on the nervous system, which is the critical
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  Speaker 2: factor in holding more consciousness in the body for the
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  Speaker 2: average person. So the EFAs and magnesium, that helps the
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  Speaker 2: myelin sheath in the body. That helps hold more light
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  Speaker 2: in the body, which helps hold more consciousness. which assists
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  Speaker 2: us in having a higher level of consciousness and in
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  Speaker 2: turn processing of negative emotions. So I just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: mention that even though it's not a high consciousness field,
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  Speaker 2: it was discovered as a result of high consciousness field research,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just such an important part in helping people
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  Speaker 2: self-regulate their nervous systems. Jeff and I wanted to mention it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that. Give us that website one more time.
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  Speaker 2: F L F E.net. Okay. Frank.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have all that.
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  Speaker 2: Edward.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. We'll have all that linked up here at the
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  Speaker 1: show notes page at the trauma therapist podcast.com. Uh, Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: and Clayton. Um, thank you so much for being here. Appreciate,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate both of you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be in touch.