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Know the Enemy: Pittsburgh · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Welcome back to Z boundary Corner podcast with my partner.
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  Brian siglo, I'm Curtis Wilson. Brian, you surprised me a couple
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  minutes ago, big guy. Yeah buddy.
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  I as you all know everybody out there, this is a offensive
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  lineman podcast unofficially. So what better way to kind of,
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  you know, bring that home then to have the Hokies offensive
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  line coach, Joe Rudolph on. Us.
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  And we're not going to hesitate really going, bring him on.
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  Hey coach. How you doing tonight?
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  Doing great Brian. Curtis how you doing?
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  We're doing, we're doing good coach Rudolfo.
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  It's a pleasure to have you. We thought we weren't going to
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  have you this week. We hadn't heard back from
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  Travis, but I mean, it was a, it was an absolute a pleasant
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  surprise. When I clicked on the button
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  about 10 minutes ago, and there's Brian and Coach Rudolph,
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  and I'm like, oh shit. It's gonna trip.
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  How you doing this evening, obviously.
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  I see, Dwayne Brown over your left shoulder.
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  They're shy, man. I'm assuming you're at the
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  merryman still, and no question that that time of year is just
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  kind of grinding. Trying to put everything we can
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  together to be at her. Best, we appreciate you taking
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  out your time tonight to speak with us and to speak here with
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  Hokie nation. And you know what, we'll try to
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  make it short and quick so you can get back to doing what you
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  do. So I let Brian lead off with
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  this one because I'm obviously We big man here playing no line
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  in college. I know this is a treat for you
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  Brian? Absolutely.
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  Absolutely. And let's start there because my
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  offensive line coach in college was actually, Keith goon conlon
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  played at Penn State in the early 90s under Joe.
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  Paw I know you were about the same time frame, they're
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  Wisconsin. What was it like playing during
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  that era? I think it was a had a blast
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  playing the game. I mean I played my first year at
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  linebacker and then I think they well I didn't I don't think they
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  told me that my summer goal was to come back is the biggest
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  linebacker in the Big Ten. So I thought I might be moving
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  positions and I just embraced it and I loved it man, and I love
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  knocking the snot out of linebackers because I wasn't
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  playing anymore. And so it was it was a position.
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  It'd be great on a great offensive line coach Bill
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  Callahan and it's just a great time to play.
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  I played with an awesome group of guys.
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  Still friends to this day and and something about somebody
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  being an offensive lineman and being part of a line.
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  That's pretty special in the pretty special game.
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  Yeah, let's talk about that a little bit as far as the
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  relationship because I know we had we actually had Keith on
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  back during the offseason. Just after coach Pride, been
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  hired by the Hokies before. I think you would come on at
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  that point and he kind of talked about obviously being a Penn
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  State guy. He's a radio guy up there and in
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  Happy Valley now so had a lot of interactions with Coach Frey.
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  What was that relationship and what was kind of the the dynamic
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  that brought you to Blacksburg? Well It was a number of things
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  that kind of just kind of fell into place 11.
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  Being the people people that I knew through recruiting.
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  They would always talk about Coach prying talk about what a
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  great person. He is because recruiting goes
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  both ways sometimes, right? Sometimes sometimes you work
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  your tail off and and young man in family, feels like you're the
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  best place for him and sometimes it's another place and but if
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  they'll tell you how much they respect that person afterwards
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  and then you kind of Get a little glimpse into who they
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  really are, you know, even when circumstances, know maybe follow
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  their way and then just competing against them.
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  I always loved the way. Is this guys competed?
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  I thought they were, I thought they understood that they were
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  sound, I thought they understood not only assignment, but they
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  played together and he played with a competitive mindset and
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  then Blacksburg I came here once when I was coaching a pet and
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  I'll never forget it, it was, it was so loud.
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  You couldn't hear yourself think on the sidelines and it was
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  unlike man. People love it.
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  I mean, they love this place and these kids that were playing in
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  front of them. You could just feel the energy
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  here and, you know, it was always a place that kind of kind
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  of stuck with me and, and just saw has been awesome.
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  They're very grateful for the opportunity to be here, and I'm
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  having a blast. Well, we're grateful.
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  You're here coach, and it's funny.
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  I hear the name Bill Callahan and, and I'm Corley.
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  That's the same Bill Callahan that's been in the NFL the last
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  20 years, right? Yeah, bug.
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  Bill is our offensive line coach, and we're always constant
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  and great. Coach great technician, you
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  know, just just a great guy to go to learn under and you don't
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  know. You not only learned how to play
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  the game but you learn how to become a line, you learned all
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  the steps that it takes. And and that's, that's always
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  stuck with me. Yeah.
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  And it is, it is something, you know, we've heard coach Pride
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  mention, you're talking about the gelling, but let's ask this
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  will schematic here, we're going the old If we ran a primary Zone
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  base skiing and now with yours, this is Brian telling me.
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  So if it's wrong, tell him he's wrong, running a little bit more
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  Gap will bit more power scheme, what are the challenges when you
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  have to make a change like that? And I know you've been doing
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  this for, you know, close to 15 years, is no line coach.
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  What are the challenges in changing?
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  And you went, you went from Wisconsin pit.
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  Back to Wisconsin now here. So, this is the fourth time, you
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  third time, you've done it. What are those challenges?
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  I think there's always challenges when you, when you
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  come in a new, you know, there's there's challenges not only from
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  schematics but there's there's challenges with relationships or
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  Charlotte's challenges with normally relationships.
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  You have with the guys, but the guys have with each other.
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  And I think it's, I think they're just steps that you have
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  to go through and take and, you know, I think in doing it.
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  The one thing you got to be, is you got to be honest and you got
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  to be consistent, you know, like if something's good your most
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  say it's good. If it isn't that you're going to
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  work on it to close the gap, to get it that way.
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  And when I look at schematics because I know that was part of
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  the question, the thing I always look at it, you know, you you
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  watch and you judge each play and you say, okay if we do
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  everything that we need to do, can this truly be successful or
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  not successful and and then you kind of you kind of map out you
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  want to get rid of all those plays that that, you know,
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  you're going to struggle with regardless, if the guys are on
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  Q, you want it, you want to eliminate them in every way,
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  shape or form. How do you do it?
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  Well, maybe it's not the formation.
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  The run that out of maybe it's maybe it doesn't fit your guys,
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  you know? And then that's that's part of
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  what you go through. When you're, when you're coming
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  into that group, you want to, you want to find something, you
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  can really hang your hat on, but yet it's a battle to get there.
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  Yeah, and I think, you know, what you talk about is kind of
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  finding that that bread and butter that you're working with.
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  And I know, you know, you've been Talking about some of the,
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  the line hasn't fully gelled yet and you kind of waiting to see
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  see that happen, you know, and we've seen some uneven results
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  so far. What are the steps that are
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  still needed? You feel to kind of get this
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  where you feel comfortable from a running game perspective?
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  Well it's like it's like you say the running game it's kind of
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  like running game protections. They it's it's 11 guys playing
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  you know and and There are times where you were, you feel like
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  something's may be blocked up great, but maybe the timing from
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  the from the backfill to the line of scrimmage, isn't what
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  you want, then sometimes, boy, all those things are set up and
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  man, you needed that one last fit by by a tight end or a, or a
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  wide receiver. And then you know, sometimes
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  you're like, man, we you know, we got to get our feet across
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  the line of scrimmage is a no lineman in order to give this
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  guy a chance to get the ball down, so we can make his cuts on
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  those sides of the line of scrimmage.
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  So it's really all those things coming together and when those
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  things come together, it's beautiful, its consistency.
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  And that's that's what you fight for it.
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  It's not about what you can do. Well, it's about what you can
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  do, well consistently. And, and that's, that's the
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  grind your in, man. That's, that's a grind day in
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  and day out, week in and week out.
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  And that's the grind we're in the season.
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  So, I do feel like we keep closing the gap on that, but we,
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  it's our A fight right now and it's a colon, like these kids
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  work. I like who they are.
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  I like, who they are, and how they take care of each other off
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  the field. Like they, they care about this
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  place and they care about each other.
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  And then working my tail off to try to help them to be at their
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  best in the moment. And and, you know, I like that
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  about them. I am grateful for working with
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  of my I do. I enjoy him and I think we'll
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  continue to close the gap on those things.
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  All right. I know you can't pee.
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  A favor to you, but of the of your starting five right now.
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  When you first got the campus who was the one that sort of
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  jumped on paper, as you know, that's my leader.
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  That's the guy that's going to hold this group together and
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  help us make those strides and you've got the job.
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  Yeah, it's interesting. You ask that because you know
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  the thing I've probably got told more than anything was.
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  Most of the guys that had done a lot were going to be here
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  anymore and and yet There were a lot of guys that, you know, one
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  way shape or form had experienced, you know, like they
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  had plays a little bit of all and, you know, I was intrigued
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  about Silas, you know, and seeing him and meeting him.
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  And then kind of, you know, thinking like, can we put this
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  all together with him and and then, and then, you know, Johnny
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  Jordan, you know, as a, as a guy that is added benefit multiple
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  places. And, and, you know, his his
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  Don't let these like Chinese to be Johnny.
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  Will turn 32? You do You Know The Enemy?
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  You know, you got Parker and Caden and plays a lot about.
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  So, you know, in, you know, I knew I was going to have some
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  leadership talking to Silas like I could feel that and I knew and
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  I and he just he wanted to be that for the group and and
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  Johnny, you know, he's our Communicator upfront, and the
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  guys trust them and he knows things inside now and he puts
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  any extra work to make sure Sure he does.
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  And, and, you know and you know, I knew I would have some
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  leadership out of those guys and I have Awesome.
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  Awesome. Yeah, and that's kind of the two
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  I think we had kind of keyed in on before the start of the
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  season. So I'm glad that that's kind of
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  how it worked out there and behind the scenes.
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  And you talked about Johnny with communication, I know that
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  Communications such a big and important part of playing
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  offensive line and being able to do those things as a unit.
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  How is that come from so far? A kind of across the board with
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  Johnny, kind of leading the way there.
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  I think it's been, I think it's been pretty darn good.
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  You know it. Hasn't been things where, where
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  you've been off from the standpoint of a sign mobilize, I
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  think, you know, every once in a while, you know, you yet your
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  Technique will show up being off.
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  And how does your Technique show up being off?
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  I, I tell the guys, it starts with her eyes, right?
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  If your eyes, you're in the wrong place, it doesn't matter
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  whether what the rest of you is doing your kind of subject to
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  having problems, so that I discipline is huge.
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  And, you know, sometimes we get the right, Call, we got all that
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  but we let her eyes kind of Wonder and then and then you can
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  create issues not only for you but for for your guy next to
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  you, if your eyes need to be there.
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  But I think the communication from Johnny's been really good.
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  I think the guys get it, sometimes you get a looker too
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  that, you know, you might hope the deal a little bit more
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  confident with, but, but you're learning and, and, and it's not
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  that nobody wants to do it, you just got to keep closing the gap
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  of being doing it in the moment and taking being able to do it.
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  To being able to do it consistently.
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  All right. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go
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  something coach prize said a couple times and I'm sure you're
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  seeing it. When he talks about guys,
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  pressing is that the thing with the eyes is that what you feel?
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  Or is it even, or is it even more where when guys press run
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  Brian's mentioned it to me, when he played there were times he
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  pressed and he'd lose his technique.
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  Is how do you coach the guys to say listen, you gotta trust what
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  you're doing. Trust your eyes, trust your
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  legs. And don't Press it.
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  How tough is that the coach with your first year with the group?
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  Yeah, no, I check. When you say that because those
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  are the exact words I say out of my mouth, a lot of trust in your
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  eyes, but coach cry. You know, the one thing about
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  him is when, when he speaks to that group, I always think he
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  puts his thumb right on the heart of what needs to be said.
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  And, and I've really enjoyed that, you know, it, you know,
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  when someone I mean exactly what you're thinking and you're like,
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  man, that needs to be said right there.
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  And so I know these kids are hanging on every word with that
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  because he's, he's right in the moment with them.
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  When I think you're pressing I think you're playing the game
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  thinking about yourself. You're thinking about, not
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  messing up your thinking about, you know, am I going to do this,
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  right? And when you flip, the script
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  is, when you play the game, The guys around you, when you want
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  to do your job, great because man, this is going to be a great
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  run right here for for Keyshawn, or this is going to be man.
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  If I do this, I'm really going to help Gallo with the combo
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  man. If I come off, you know, and I
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  put my helmet right here, man. This go make them much easier
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  Brock for Jesse. You know, like if each guy plays
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  in a way where you're playing for each other, you're spending
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  a lot less time thinking about yourself.
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  You're not thinking about doing things.
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  Wrong, you thinking about being great for the guys around you.
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  And that's what I try to tell a man.
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  You guys got a great off the field culture, you care about
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  each other so much, bring that off.
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  The fill culture rates in the field.
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  You know what I mean? Don't worry about yourself care
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  about each other more than that and that'll help you stay in the
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  moment and that will help you overcome pressing.
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  That will help you overcome anxiety or being nervous stay in
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  the moment. Let It Go.
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  Execute do it for those guys around you.
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  Love that. Yeah, for sure.
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  And you know, you talked about the veterans in this group,
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  let's flip it a little bit and talk about some of the young
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  guys on that line. We got, you know, Xavier
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  chaplain, that's come in this fall.
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  You know, brilliant Braylon made the position, switch, kind of
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  late in the spring. And then we've had Jack,
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  hollifield holding it down there and of Center and guard, a
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  little bit during the Spring there, as well.
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  When you were banging guys, were banged up a little bit, how how
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  is it? Been with those guys and are we
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  looking at any point to kind of get some of those guys, some
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  extra snaps during the during the games.
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  I do, we saw Braylon a little bit against, I think was UNC in
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  and maybe a game before that as well, but are we?
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  We played him. We played them in one game
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  against West. Virginia Plan was a little bit
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  more in that game. We try to sneak him in as a
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  tight end and thought he would make a difference and some they
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  had some size on their defensive end.
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  And thought he would, he could be a good matchup, didn't get a
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  lot of playing time in that one. We got a little bit.
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  I'd be happy to talk about those guys Braylon for one.
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  I think is got an incredible future.
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  You know, he keeps pressing these right there from the
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  standpoint of, you know, getting them on the field more.
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  And, you know, he's had a few setbacks with with with with
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  injuries that have that have just held him away from making
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  that step, but I think he's going to happen.
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  Some future. He's super 20.
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  I think he's got the ability to play center and guard.
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  He's explosive he's learning, you know, he's learning it on on
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  the Run. They have and just kind of been
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  part of it in Camp but I couldn't be more excited about
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  him. Xavier chaplain, you know, just
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  a mountain of a man. But every day he surprises You
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  by how much he absorbs, how much he understands, he's got a, he's
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  got a kind of a unique kind of Intuitive sense of humor.
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  And man, I think the sky's the limit, you know, he's young,
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  but, but I can't remember traveling the true freshman for,
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  you know, I think maybe one time I think there was a true
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  freshman. I traveled.
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  It was concen so to be traveling Xavier, and Braylon and travel
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  and Johnny Garrett at times travel and Brody Meadows of
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  times. I mean that's that's pretty much
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  been unheard of in. And in my experience.
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  So I'm excited for that. I think I think those guys are
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  worthy of it and I think those guys will push and have the
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  opportunity and a big impact here and I could definitely see
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  Xavier Braylon getting on the field and playing a little bit
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  and and just going in the next year with a little more
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  experience. Awesome to hear that good.
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  Appreciate the little background there on those young guys before
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  we wrap up tonight and let you get back to what you're doing
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  there and merry men, you know, ever since you've come to
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  Blacksburg what's kind of your food spot down there, where
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  what's the spot you hit up? You know, late night like this.
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  You're in the office. Who are you calling to say, grab
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  me some food and bring it in well Coach.
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  Quin is like the Aficionado of all Food Eatery.
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  And he only tell you that he takes great enjoyment in holding
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  that title and he's very much in the moment when he is in any
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  establishment. So he has kind of taken me all
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  over Blacksburg to like a whole bunch of places.
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  I probably never would have gone to myself and it's been awesome
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  man. Like there are some great food
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  and there are some great people in this town.
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  And we've, we've enjoyed a man and, and my family.
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  They are what when we cuz I was here for a little bit before
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  they They got here, they had finished.
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  My boys, finished baseball back in back in Wisconsin, and then
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  they came out right before school started, so, like taking
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  them after that. So, few of the places whether it
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  was, you know, whether it was a greens or lefties or wherever
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  like we McAdoo's like we would be all over and making stops.
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  Oh I like kind of changing it up a little bit and and it's kind
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  of neat showing them around after kind of Sean showed me
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  around a little bit. That's awesome.
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  That's awesome. Yeah I mean we actually we're
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  not Virginia Tech grads. We actually played at him and
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  City division 3 but we spent any time that we could in Blacksburg
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  so we are well versed in the in the food options there.
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  We're up there all the time so it's awesome to hear that you're
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  kind of immersing yourself in that culture as well.
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  It's been good. I've made my Stomps everywhere
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  and back and probably PK's probably gets the most action,
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  I've everything so it's all pretty good.
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  Love it. Good luck.
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  Gotta get the cheetah wings and right gotta get this shit off
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  coach, I want to say a big thank you for jumping on with us.
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  It's been a good time. And I in the insight to kind of
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  what's going on with the offensive line.
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  Specifically, I think it's been good and I think good for the
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  listeners to kind of kind of pick up on so we appreciate your
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  time. Absolutely did my pleasure man.
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  I appreciate you guys. And I know we got a great fan
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  base and they care about this program, they care about these
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  kids and that makes it fun. You know, when you come out in
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  that stadium and you feel that, that's, that's why that's what
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  reinforces all the work you put in.
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  So we're going to grind and we're going to keep grinding,
• 21:20
  and we're going to get there. Awesome coach.
• 21:24
  Again, we appreciate you taking the time, we know how busy you
• 21:27
  are, we look forward. We thank you for coming on the
• 21:30
  light and we look forward to having you off.
• 21:32
  Maybe sometime in the offseason and Brian.
• 21:35
  And you can just sit down there and break down ol tape.
• 21:38
  And I just sit here, shut up and listen, take care of yourself,
• 21:42
  coach Rudolph, I'm frustrated. Well that was a surprise.
• 21:53
  It's always fun to get the the last minute.
• 21:55
  Thumbs up blast it. Well I'm not texted Brian it.
• 21:59
  Like what? Six and problems.
• 22:02
  Like you haven't heard back from Travis and we were like, oh it's
• 22:04
  okay, it's a busy week. We know these guys are busy in
• 22:07
  about five minutes. Before we go on.
• 22:09
  I'm running a little late tonight.
• 22:10
  I'm jumping in their phone and it was like holy shit.
• 22:14
  We got him. Well, I was on and I was about
• 22:16
  to let you know that that We got him and then he was on and I was
• 22:20
  I was talking to him. Well I was waiting for you to
• 22:22
  get on so yeah we really appreciate coach taking the time
• 22:28
  with us. That was that was awesome.
• 22:30
  Getting some insight into what's going to going on behind the
• 22:33
  scenes there with the offensive line and you have a little more
• 22:36
  input from from the staff there since we had you know, Kiante
• 22:40
  Jenkins on last week. In the player's perspective
• 22:43
  perspective get a little bit of the coach perspective this week.
• 22:46
  Absolutely man. And now he No, we've got we got
• 22:50
  we were 25 minutes. I did the episode.
• 22:51
  We got a ton more to unload. Yeah, that's right.
• 22:55
  It is awesome to hear from him and what guy he was.
• 22:59
  We were shooting the, we shot the breeze about 15 minutes.
• 23:02
  Before we jump, we literally press the button, literally at
• 23:05
  the last possible minute for. We could go and for our folks,
• 23:10
  if any of our hometown folks, in South Boston, less than we were
• 23:12
  explaining late, mop South Boston's few, a late model stock
• 23:16
  car racing Sitting On The Backs. Edge on tailgating the bologna
• 23:20
  burger, balloons Burger in hand. If you see a guy decked out in
• 23:24
  Virginia Tech gear and he asked for a beer and a bologna burger,
• 23:28
  it could potentially be Coach Joe Rudolph this summer because
• 23:31
  we told him it's the perfect time to go down.
• 23:33
  We pointed in the right direction.
• 23:34
  We're getting them in the right direction.
• 23:36
  Yeah, I think he's working that kind of that kind of South Side
• 23:39
  area. Yeah.
• 23:40
  With recruited his region. Yeah, there's reto mentioned.
• 23:43
  He said that was the his region. That is the southernmost point
• 23:46
  out facts. Yeah.
• 23:48
  Yeah. He says he said he was checking
• 23:49
  out the website before he got on he was like you guys are from
• 23:52
  Halifax County. He's like, yeah, I've been down
• 23:53
  in that area, you know, recruit? I was like, all right.
• 23:56
  Well, look, it makes you there. I like that.
• 23:59
  Yes, sir. All right, Braun.
• 24:00
  Well, that was awesome because to talk Rudolph but we've got to
• 24:04
  put a game in the books. We've got to talk about some
• 24:06
  stuff and we've got a preview some stuff.
• 24:09
  So, you know, let's let's go into it.
• 24:12
  Let's talk about the UNC game, you know, Hokies fall 41:10,
• 24:17
  I'll say this. Opening of the game was good.
• 24:20
  Those first two drives went pretty well, we stop them.
• 24:23
  You know, they got a first down, we stop them, we take the
• 24:27
  opening drive, go down, score three.
• 24:29
  And then you know, like so many elements of getting things,
• 24:33
  right? And things being fixed.
• 24:35
  And, you know, the flaws showed and at the in the postgame press
• 24:39
  conference in much like coach pry.
• 24:42
  And now, last week talking with kyanka this week, talking with
• 24:45
  Coach Rudolph, I'm not here, a lot of sugar coating on things,
• 24:49
  they're not being there, being honest and Coach Price set at
• 24:53
  that. You know, we're probably going
• 24:54
  to start playing freshman because of death in for an
• 24:57
  evaluation process and I don't think that shocks me or you It
• 25:01
  doesn't shock me at all, you know, we've kind of flirted with
• 25:05
  it. I think after West Virginia,
• 25:07
  some of the discussions we were having last week, you know, is
• 25:10
  is this the time is this the time?
• 25:12
  And you know, I think at some point you're going to have to
• 25:15
  see What the young guys have? If you're noticing, you know,
• 25:20
  number one, you're obviously having some depth concerns.
• 25:23
  Number two, if they're still inconsistency, with the play of
• 25:28
  your veterans, you know, you still want to at that point.
• 25:32
  If you're getting inconsistent play from your veterans, then,
• 25:35
  let's see what the young guys can do.
• 25:36
  See if they give you a little bit more upside.
• 25:38
  You know, despite probably there being some growing pains with
• 25:41
  them playing with that process. Absolutely.
• 25:44
  And that's what we're going to kind of talk about.
• 25:46
  Here tonight is kind of look at the number of rooms but I'm
• 25:48
  going to start with the quarterback room and you know,
• 25:51
  you know Grant Wells. You know, I mean it wasn't a
• 25:56
  terrible game by any means, but it wasn't the game that you're
• 25:59
  going to need playing UNC. You know, that's Yeah and the
• 26:07
  thing I've kind of said things that I've looked at with Wells
• 26:10
  is that he does enough things, okay?
• 26:14
  But he still, he still at the point where was leaving yards on
• 26:19
  the field and you know I get it with some of the deep balls, a
• 26:23
  deep balls, not the easiest play to make but some of the the more
• 26:28
  short to intermediate routes either either locking onto your
• 26:31
  primary for too long and not getting to the secondary.
• 26:33
  That's open you know, missing guys that are Opening, you know
• 26:37
  against UNC. He didn't get a lot of help.
• 26:39
  There is several drops drops. Yeah, and things that, you know,
• 26:43
  contributed to, you know, the day that Wells would out there.
• 26:48
  But I'll say this, he's not elevating.
• 26:52
  The play of the guys around him. Yeah.
• 26:55
  So you know does that mean it's time to pull a guy?
• 26:59
  I don't know, I think I'm at the point where I don't know if
• 27:05
  Wells is the answer for the next three years.
• 27:08
  Like we thought he might be. Yeah, we're not seeing to
• 27:12
  progressions the progression, as the season goes along and we'll
• 27:15
  see if he gets there if he continues down the line.
• 27:18
  But I think I'd like to see a little bit more Brown against
• 27:22
  Pitt, just to see what we have. See if the command of the
• 27:26
  offense is different, see if that kind of gives some other
• 27:29
  guys that other positions of spark, as we kind of Into the
• 27:34
  middle part of this season. Yep.
• 27:38
  What are your thoughts man? Well I'm almost to a point where
• 27:44
  we talked about playing the younger guys, right?
• 27:46
  I almost think it needs to be a Cascade of that.
• 27:49
  I think you've got to try playing some younger guys you
• 27:51
  know because you're all mentioned chaplain.
• 27:53
  They really want to get chaplain and Braylon some more time to
• 27:56
  play and we got rather than one game but that Cascade effect of
• 28:00
  what if you start, what if the Run game gets a little bit
• 28:03
  better? What if some of the younger
• 28:07
  receivers, get a little more rest?
• 28:09
  Start making bigger plays, you get Malachi Thomas back.
• 28:12
  Potentially so to me, I think it's like this, this timeframe
• 28:17
  where in between pit and NC State, Make some other changes.
• 28:22
  And if I say n c-- State, Grant hasn't changed his level of play
• 28:28
  Then those last four games. But Jason Brown Blake.
• 28:31
  Let Lisa Braun Play. It's wasn't going to hurt.
• 28:33
  We're likely going to be looking for another portal quarterback,
• 28:37
  which I know is something we probably didn't want to do, but
• 28:40
  you got to move on and we're going to talk about the Portland
• 28:44
  a little while here but you know, yeah, we're valuation
• 28:49
  period, this point where we're trying to see what we have and I
• 28:54
  think part of that is not just okay, well we're evaluating
• 28:58
  Grant, we obviously know that but it's hard when Grant
• 29:02
  struggling to also evaluate some of the other guys You know,
• 29:07
  potentially Brown might be a stabilizing factor in that.
• 29:10
  I don't think he, I don't think he has the upside.
• 29:13
  That grand does not fall. I mean.
• 29:16
  And I said that in the offseason.
• 29:17
  Yeah. I mean, we kind of know that
• 29:21
  there are limitations with putting Brown in there.
• 29:24
  But would he help us more in? Some of the things we're Grant
• 29:30
  is deficient right now? That's the question.
• 29:32
  We don't really have an answer to yet.
• 29:34
  Could he maximize other? Is on the field and other parts
• 29:38
  of the offense that help those guys improve.
• 29:41
  And we don't know until the actually play significant reps,
• 29:44
  which is going to be interesting to see how it goes with the last
• 29:48
  seven games. Now, something I'm really glad
• 29:51
  we had Coast Rudolph on in. This is our second talking
• 29:53
  point, you know, the offensive line, it wasn't, you know, one
• 29:59
  hit on all cylinders and you know, coach Rudolph talked about
• 30:03
  guys, pressing the eyes, you know, if you're dry Rising
• 30:07
  moving and things like that. You know we're under three of
• 30:10
  carry against a UNC defense that had not been very good and we
• 30:15
  talked about we talked about is it time to let the young guys
• 30:22
  come in and play? And you know he and luckily he
• 30:26
  kind of said it for us and Brian.
• 30:29
  Do you think it is time for those two young guys that he's
• 30:31
  mentioned, you know, bringing more and Xavier Chapman.
• 30:36
  Is it time to Give them some run, just to see if it can
• 30:40
  create potentially a spark on the offensive line.
• 30:44
  I think so it at least in some sort of capacity.
• 30:48
  I don't know if you necessarily roll them out as the starters
• 30:51
  and give them the full game, but I think it'll be good to get
• 30:57
  them in at least for a handful of series each potentially
• 31:02
  started this week with pit. That'll that'll kind of be a
• 31:04
  trial by fire which we're going to talk about in a little bit in
• 31:08
  terms of what they do up front. But you know as we keep moving
• 31:13
  forward I think it's To be important to, to get those guys.
• 31:18
  Some, some additional time in the game, especially the, to
• 31:24
  we've mentioned, Braylon more is a viewer chaplain, especially
• 31:28
  when a guy like, you know, we've talked about the many struggles
• 31:33
  that Parker Clements has had in the season and the fact that you
• 31:38
  know that Xavier Chaplin is going to have to be one of the
• 31:40
  guys going into next year, you know, those two Actors alone, I
• 31:45
  think and can be a good justification for getting him
• 31:48
  out there. Especially, you know, a guy that
• 31:50
  is, you know, a true freshman. Just just coming into fall Camp.
• 31:54
  The fact that he's absorbed enough for, he's on that cusp
• 31:57
  right now. That says a lot about him and
• 31:59
  what his future is with this team.
• 32:01
  But you also can't teach what he has and Coach Ford.
• 32:04
  All said he is a mountain, he's six foot six, he's 340 pounds.
• 32:07
  He is a, he's a monster, he's a monkey movement and he moved and
• 32:12
  he can jump. Holy God that Duncan All right,
• 32:16
  so if you're going forward now you can you can make this the
• 32:20
  rest of the season. You can say, we're going to try
• 32:22
  this for four games. What would be your preferred 5?
• 32:25
  What would you like to see? I think I'd like to see it.
• 32:30
  Keep silence that left? Give me Braylon Johnny, Caden
• 32:36
  and then Xavier, right. I think that'll give us the
• 32:40
  best. Chance that the best combination
• 32:44
  of talent versus building towards what we're going to look
• 32:47
  like next year, because we know that both more brothers are
• 32:51
  going to be in the mix next year.
• 32:53
  We know the chapel is going to be in the mix next year and then
• 32:57
  you keep your two veterans that are going to be out of
• 33:00
  Eligibility at the end of this year.
• 33:02
  And there is to kind of hold the unit together.
• 33:04
  Yep. In ones on the left side, with
• 33:06
  one of the younger guys. And then more, you know, Chapel
• 33:11
  on the right side with Lesser of the experience that's cattle
• 33:14
  where you maybe get a little shaky, but I think things have
• 33:18
  got to change. I think you gotta we were
• 33:20
  talking about the gelling and all that going on.
• 33:23
  Eventually one does it come to a point?
• 33:25
  When, okay things aren't gelling is it just the group's, not
• 33:29
  going to gel on the field and as much as they care, which is good
• 33:35
  to hear. You know, I have a feeling that
• 33:38
  if they didn't care, I don't think we'd heard that come out
• 33:40
  of Coach results mouth because So there's no reason to say
• 33:44
  that, so, yeah, so it'll be interesting going forward with
• 33:49
  the offensive line and with the and he was talking about, it's
• 33:53
  little things, right? It's these little things that
• 33:57
  kind of add up and he was talking about pressing and
• 34:00
  talking about playing playing not to make a mistake, is still,
• 34:05
  it's never a winning strategy. If you're not playing with that
• 34:08
  confidence and that it's overthinking.
• 34:12
  It's so many things that kind of come into play that can hinder
• 34:16
  you as an offensive lineman and because because you are having
• 34:19
  to work as a unit and as a group and there's so much of what you
• 34:23
  do that impacts, what other people are able to do on a given
• 34:27
  play call. Yeah.
• 34:29
  And so you know if you don't have all of that working in a
• 34:34
  full tandem with the right mindset, then there's going to
• 34:38
  be in consistencies and struggles and that's what we've
• 34:40
  seen. Exactly.
• 34:42
  All right, let's flip and talk a little bit about the defensive
• 34:44
  side of the ball. Couple things there.
• 34:46
  And we'll wrap up with a few more places that we're seeing.
• 34:50
  We felt the secondary was the strongest part of this team and
• 34:54
  Saturday, what we've been hearing all year deaths in
• 34:58
  issued Epson issue will death against the best passing team.
• 35:02
  We faced all year reared. Its ugly head and bit Us in the
• 35:05
  ass in with Dorian strong out and then Jalen strumming out on
• 35:10
  that first base. Glee our strongest unit against
• 35:14
  against against the best quarterback and probably some of
• 35:18
  the best skill position players, not having the two it showed.
• 35:21
  And it showed quick, in that first half. you know, but but I
• 35:28
  cannot not having strobing not having strong and, you know, It
• 35:33
  was the strongest unit against the best quarterback.
• 35:35
  And it showed that we're not quite there depth wise, but it
• 35:39
  was good to get get some extra time for DJ.
• 35:45
  Yeah. For Mansoor for cam, they were
• 35:49
  able to come in like moment, didn't look for big to Big,
• 35:53
  especially for Delaney. Delaney, look down.
• 35:55
  Belonged out there. Yes, you did DJ.
• 35:59
  You okay? And all three of them.
• 36:03
  Hold up very well. So I think the future is bright
• 36:05
  at the position but, you know, damn, along with me, Devon.
• 36:12
  Yeah, I mean, that's probably your starter well.
• 36:16
  Yeah, that's probably your starters next year with strong.
• 36:19
  So yeah, it shows really good and again menasor showed like
• 36:23
  right out the gate with that tackle for loss and then a
• 36:26
  couple good coverage plays. Yeah.
• 36:30
  But when it rears its ugly head against a team of that caliber
• 36:33
  and the weight reg, man, he's playing right now Drake, make a
• 36:36
  five-star Realty there is I'd I don't think we did.
• 36:42
  I don't think we downplay them last week when we previewed in,
• 36:46
  I mean. But the two things that I can
• 36:48
  critique him on our Things that don't really impact him that
• 36:52
  much, especially if you don't get a rush on it.
• 36:55
  I mean his footwork still needs, you know, some polishing and he
• 36:59
  needs to not take unnecessary hits that.
• 37:03
  That's, that's the to critiques this game.
• 37:05
  Other than that, I mean shoot dude is in his bag right now, he
• 37:14
  absolutely is. All right, let's flip almost
• 37:16
  talk about up front again and then about the The depth front
• 37:20
  kind of hurting because I mean to say when I when we were at 24
• 37:27
  with less than you know, nine minutes still left in the third
• 37:30
  quarter. Eventually couple minutes later,
• 37:33
  the wheels fell off, the depth fell out and the floodgates kind
• 37:38
  of open to get it to 41, completely out of range and
• 37:42
  something in coach Prime mention it.
• 37:43
  I'm called portion of interviews not playing common football you
• 37:47
  know you're down 14. If you can go out and get a
• 37:50
  score to open half, right? Is a seven-point game.
• 37:54
  They've got to press a little bit more.
• 37:56
  They didn't have to press and once we didn't do anything with
• 37:58
  the second drive, it was just kind of like all right.
• 38:01
  We can we can we can take risks. They did they scored 17 in the
• 38:06
  prophet like that opening drive of the second half.
• 38:10
  I mean there was some promise there, there was some yeah, some
• 38:14
  calls I think early that went the way we wanted to and then we
• 38:17
  kind of got in that That kind of short yardage situation that
• 38:22
  we've seen some struggles in this year.
• 38:25
  We weren't able to convert we needed to and but you know
• 38:30
  flipping it when that happens that puts so much strain on the
• 38:34
  on the defensive depth. So you know just like in the DB
• 38:37
  room we saw it along the defensive line.
• 38:41
  You know, we saw Nelson McCray Pinette I mean they get back out
• 38:47
  there they're making they're getting You guys in and out of
• 38:51
  that, that rotation, it's kind of hard to get pressure.
• 38:54
  And when you got guys banged and you're already struggling to get
• 38:58
  a little bit of pressure on the guy and he's a guy, you have to
• 39:01
  get pressure on to really impact, you know, it's just it's
• 39:06
  a feast back there, he was ashamed.
• 39:07
  What it kind of picked guys off any was.
• 39:10
  And and those three guys we've been we've been, we've been
• 39:13
  happy with this year but again where it shows when you start
• 39:16
  playing better offenses you. It shows that they're all three
• 39:21
  young. They're all three.
• 39:23
  You know, mcrea feels like he's old mccrae's only affect a
• 39:26
  redshirt freshman, they've only been playing, you know, they all
• 39:30
  may have 20 games between them. So, in the reality of things,
• 39:35
  they're still young. I mean, I think it's okay,
• 39:37
  what's happening? I think them getting rubs
• 39:39
  against Elite offenses and seeing how quick things are
• 39:43
  happening in front of them, that take its put on Sunday right
• 39:47
  Ron. Now here's what we got.
• 39:49
  Better. This is where we've got to work
• 39:50
  better. But I think now from defensively
• 39:53
  because of where we are, is I think we've got a strategically
• 39:56
  start thinking about letting some of the guys play the four
• 40:00
  games. Now anybody Pops, I think you
• 40:03
  burn a red. Sure.
• 40:04
  I don't care because the more tape and the more play you get
• 40:07
  with them it's going to help long run like right now Malachi
• 40:10
  Madison. Malachi has got the body, right?
• 40:14
  If nothing else, he's going to be difficult.
• 40:17
  Even even is an experience as he is.
• 40:22
  I've got three or ten pounds. That's still is difficult for
• 40:26
  even the most technician and strong offensive lineman to
• 40:29
  move. Give him his three games.
• 40:31
  Think about stretch Carol, do they?
• 40:33
  Give Gunner, Givens, get them and prize mention it, let them
• 40:37
  play because if you're letting them play at least it's the
• 40:40
  film, right? Brian?
• 40:41
  It's the teaching moments. Are you lined up here?
• 40:44
  You went here, you should have went this one.
• 40:45
  Look at your footwork and I know that they can learn something
• 40:50
  from the process. And you might, you know, find a
• 40:52
  guy that can give you a boost in the short term.
• 40:55
  Yeah. So, I mean, I'd love to see that
• 40:58
  happen and it's got to be done strategically because by all
• 41:01
  means, if, you know, like this weekend against Pitt, something
• 41:04
  fluky happens, and we're in that game like, yeah, it's going to
• 41:08
  be tough to put them in in those situations, right?
• 41:11
  Just meet up to put them in if it's like a.
• 41:13
  I don't know that I'll make my prediction in about an hour
• 41:16
  here, but if you know if it's a 2121 game late, It's really
• 41:22
  tough to go. So we're going to put in for
• 41:23
  freshmen to play this series. Yeah, but you still trying to
• 41:26
  win a game. If there's other points in the
• 41:31
  within the game you can put them in to get that experience, do
• 41:33
  it. But I think they have to look to
• 41:34
  these next seven games getting those guys that have reps
• 41:39
  running back room. I thought we had Malachi coming
• 41:41
  back. Obviously, he's closer than he's
• 41:44
  ever been, he's on the depth chart this week, King still
• 41:47
  solid hit. Nine carries 50, some yard from
• 41:51
  a couple, good ones. And you continuing to show the
• 41:55
  good traits, where that I'm right there.
• 41:59
  Those three have eligibility to come back next year, that all
• 42:02
  three of them, it would be, it would be king style year,
• 42:04
  Thomason pricer, Young Bucks, I think.
• 42:08
  You've already burned Bryce, right?
• 42:10
  You might as well make it part of the game playing every week.
• 42:14
  yeah, I mean especially I think with when you get Malachi back
• 42:18
  at Full Steam, I think that's when you start seeing holsten's
• 42:24
  carries kind of move further and further down the depth chart.
• 42:30
  Because they kind of have similar skill sets in terms of
• 42:35
  being competent, between the tackles big enough to kind of
• 42:39
  get some first downs, you know about by running people over if
• 42:43
  they can wear as king and Duke or kind of more little more
• 42:48
  under sized. Yeah shifting.
• 42:50
  So yeah. So I think that's the
• 42:53
  opportunity and I think that's when you start seeing Holston
• 42:55
  kind of slip down the depth chart a little bit further.
• 42:58
  We're seeing it. Also in game, I mean, Holston
• 43:01
  only had two carries all mom. He only had two carries, I
• 43:05
  couldn't give you a snap number. I know he was out there and some
• 43:08
  of the passengers situations. He was out there in passing
• 43:10
  situation because he's a ghost walker.
• 43:12
  He is, he is So, you know, we'll see how that goes wide receiver
• 43:22
  tight in room for unjust just as we pop it on the screen here.
• 43:26
  You know. We'll talk about that kind of
• 43:30
  blumrich. I mean yeah, we haven't seen him
• 43:32
  kind of designed into the offense as much as I think.
• 43:36
  We wanted to see him. He hasn't been the kind of
• 43:40
  primary guy. The do it all guy that we
• 43:42
  thought we were going to get when the season started.
• 43:44
  He's worked in here or there. Given us some some quality snaps
• 43:50
  but he is absolutely is not working as a primary component
• 43:57
  of the offense at this point, but somebody that we did finally
• 44:01
  get to see and look at it out, do it, do it, you know, you're
• 44:05
  so happy about this Daquan right.
• 44:08
  Hey Kwon, right, y'all don't know who this guy takes me?
• 44:13
  I think that first play and it's like, see I've been right?
• 44:17
  First of all, I don't tape and he did look good.
• 44:20
  He much like you said, man, sort of Lanie belonged out there
• 44:23
  Daquan right? And looked like he belongs out
• 44:25
  there on Saturday against UNC, I mean, 100%.
• 44:31
  I mean, he had four catches 31 yards, He got in the zones, he
• 44:37
  beat some guys off the off the ball.
• 44:41
  And, you know, that's what you want and now they have to make
• 44:45
  the decision, right? Yeah.
• 44:47
  Do you go ahead and just say, you know, screw it.
• 44:51
  What are you burning? Yeah, I mean I think it's going
• 44:57
  to depend on if we see kind of a similar output this week, if
• 45:00
  he's, if he's involved in the game plan, if he continues to
• 45:03
  kind of show that progress if he's helping you, you gotta go
• 45:06
  ahead and burn it because it's going to help him for next year
• 45:10
  too, because it's only going to give him some more
• 45:12
  opportunities. He's taking over that Drake
• 45:15
  role. He's taking after April next
• 45:17
  year and probably with a lot more Fanfare than Drake's
• 45:21
  playing this year. Well, he's probably going to
• 45:23
  take over. He's going to be doing what
• 45:25
  Drake's doing and doing some of what Connors doing.
• 45:29
  So he's going to kind of be a little bit of jack-of-all-trades
• 45:32
  come next year. So getting him out there where
• 45:35
  he can kind of do a little bit of this little bit of that, that
• 45:38
  that's only going to help us going into next year.
• 45:41
  And if and if he still, if he shows out again, like he did
• 45:44
  this week, you know, 25 plus yards, you know, three or four
• 45:49
  receptions. I mean, that's some quality work
• 45:52
  for a tight end especially one, you know, true freshman.
• 45:56
  Just just got to camp in the fall.
• 45:59
  So we'll see if he can make some more ground up.
• 46:02
  I tell you the thing, I haven't seen a lot of, you know, getting
• 46:08
  a lot of Buzz out of fall campus Holloway and we haven't really
• 46:10
  seen him get much Run. Is it time to kind of work him
• 46:14
  into the receiver rotation? Some of these other guys, maybe
• 46:19
  and that's the whole thing. I think at the point that you
• 46:21
  can start taking those risks, it's your two and three, you're
• 46:25
  not familiar enough for and one you're not trying to you know we
• 46:29
  there's is there a bowl possibilities out there?
• 46:30
  Yeah, weird things happen, but it's, you know, again, finding
• 46:35
  who's going to be that guy, maybe Holloway is the next guy
• 46:39
  that you see out there get some run.
• 46:41
  Um, I'm gonna go to linebacker room real quick and I'm going to
• 46:45
  make this statement. Aunt, I know Dax is a leader,
• 46:48
  the linebacker group and I know Dax is a big figure in Virginia
• 46:53
  Tech football since 2000 and really 16 And he's hooked
• 46:58
  through, you love him for. He plays with passion, he plays
• 47:01
  with hard, he plays with fire, But sometimes we hold him on the
• 47:06
  field, just a little bit too long.
• 47:08
  When the matchup isn't, right? When they started carrying him
• 47:11
  up the seen numerous times and they beat him, you got it, you
• 47:17
  got to just cut it off and say, hey, they're taking him out of
• 47:20
  what he does. Best those intermediate zones
• 47:22
  and deep zones, that's not his game short.
• 47:25
  Any time they saw us and cover to, they were picking on decks,
• 47:27
  they were picking on Dax. And what I'm saying with this
• 47:31
  linebacker group, we have right now between Jenkins.
• 47:33
  Walker Lawson McDonald. All these young men that more
• 47:37
  athletic guys than bags. You've got to go ahead and mix
• 47:41
  it up and again, I think that's something we saw with Johnson.
• 47:44
  Last week is, all right, we're at the point now, start mixing
• 47:49
  find your nickel next year. Yeah, I don't know who the mics
• 47:53
  going to be next year. I think, I really think just
• 47:57
  from prai discussing it. I think Brent problems, Jaden
• 48:01
  Keller to me the mic. And I think Johnson is going to
• 48:06
  fight him for it. I think that is going to be next
• 48:09
  spring, roughly eight months from now that do that, right?
• 48:14
  Yeah, no, no. Seven months from that my months
• 48:18
  or six months from now spring next year, I think math is hard.
• 48:21
  Yes, it is hard after having a pounding headache, this
• 48:24
  afternoon. Yes.
• 48:25
  Math is very hard, but I think that's going to be a such an
• 48:30
  intriguing position and I think right now You know, the next
• 48:34
  couple of weeks not you don't have it's not going to be
• 48:38
  worried about as much but I think we get to NC State.
• 48:41
  I think NC State's going to try to take advantage of that acts
• 48:46
  completely. Yeah.
• 48:47
  And we'll all say this when we talk about you know taking
• 48:50
  advantage of that cover two and knowing that Dax has to get kind
• 48:54
  of that deep deep middle. Not very many quarterbacks at
• 49:01
  the college level can recognize that make that throw true.
• 49:07
  So you know this isn't an every week type deal but at the same
• 49:13
  time we still do have some good quarterbacks on our schedule.
• 49:17
  Remaining that can take advantage of that.
• 49:21
  But yeah, I'm with you. I think, I think he like Keller.
• 49:25
  I think that in terms of next year, taking over for Mike, I
• 49:28
  think it's between Keller and Johnson.
• 49:30
  I think Johnson probably has. It seems like has the
• 49:35
  understanding of the defense down a little bit better, but I
• 49:39
  think he likes Keller's physical traits better.
• 49:43
  Yeah. So, I think the combination of
• 49:46
  to Ken Keller, pick it up where he, where he can call the
• 49:49
  defense? You can can be that Communicator
• 49:54
  for the defense that I think that's another big, big piece to
• 49:57
  watch going through the rest of this year and into the start of
• 50:00
  next year, but you can mix it right now, right?
• 50:05
  But you can make it here. You can make.
• 50:06
  We see that mean we the depth. The depth chart is special.
• 50:09
  I mean we'll we'll has been a rotating cast of characters the
• 50:14
  entire season so far in terms of the depth chart you know, we've
• 50:19
  seen Keller at the top of that. List we've seen Lawson at the
• 50:21
  top of the list, we've seen. Yeah, I don't at the top of the
• 50:24
  list, it's kind of been I think they're still kind of figuring
• 50:29
  out the balance I think sometimes it's still being
• 50:32
  dictated by opponent. So there's that that aspect as
• 50:37
  well. So yep, as we get further along,
• 50:41
  we'll see if any guy emerges at that position and obviously, you
• 50:48
  know, depending on the eligibility.
• 50:50
  He still got Tisdale in there as well that could be a factor.
• 50:56
  I don't think at this point that we're going to get that resolved
• 51:00
  this season but he'll know we're not a discussion potentially
• 51:03
  next year. So yeah.
• 51:05
  That's going to be an interesting room to watch.
• 51:09
  All right, so we're gonna put that to bed and we're kind of
• 51:13
  putting to bed you and see at what that right there because
• 51:17
  the next two things, we're going to talk about even though some
• 51:20
  of its On UNC. It's a little bit more towards
• 51:23
  looking to the Future and trying to have people calling them.
• 51:28
  A lot of chatter about Boeing's not cut for this.
• 51:33
  This scheme isn't good. Etc, etc, etc.
• 51:36
  Brian. I know you saw it.
• 51:37
  We had a chat about it and Brian decided just to look at some
• 51:41
  extra tape other than what he's seeing during watching the game
• 51:44
  live Brian's a junkie on football.
• 51:47
  Y'all, y'all don't understand. Us to the point.
• 51:53
  Well we're all sports Joan. You that probably listen to this
• 51:56
  prize. Now going 50/50 stack in front
• 51:58
  of him. There in the man cave and as he
• 52:00
  said can watch football, we can keep the family happy.
• 52:03
  So I know you're doing a lot more breakdowns.
• 52:05
  But let's talk about the scheme because I know there were times
• 52:09
  again you got frustrated on Saturday where there was he had
• 52:12
  scheme somebody wide open and we did middle.
• 52:16
  Yeah. And kind of the thing that like
• 52:19
  kind of putting a big bone it. I don't think we're under
• 52:22
  playing relative to our talent but we also aren't doing a good
• 52:26
  job of maximizing the scheme relative to that Talent right
• 52:30
  now. So there's yards kind of all
• 52:32
  over the field that we're missing.
• 52:34
  Whether it's Executioner, by the quarterback, drop bowls, you
• 52:41
  know, missing a block, not quite getting to a block, you know,
• 52:44
  something that turns a, you know, 88-yard gain into a 1 or 2
• 52:50
  yard game because somebody didn't quite get to their spot.
• 52:53
  Somebody took a bad angle body, let somebody across their face.
• 52:58
  I mean, there's just these little things and I know I get
• 53:01
  that. Some people are frustrated with
• 53:03
  the calls and the scheme, I like the scheme, the scheme.
• 53:06
  Is good, the front, the where I have a frustration in.
• 53:08
  This is mostly looking at Bowens relative inexperience, as a
• 53:15
  power five. Play caller, not changing in
• 53:19
  rotating Personnel, sooner often enough and I'd like to see some
• 53:26
  development or refinement to kind of bridge the gap with
• 53:30
  these shortcomings week-to-week. The things that he is struggling
• 53:36
  with the The most is is those adjustments and then not having
• 53:41
  kind of an extra wrinkle or a big new wrinkle week-to-week
• 53:46
  that kind of throws off the opposing defense something that
• 53:50
  they don't have tape on yet. You know, that, that's the kind
• 53:53
  of things that I think is where he's not quite not quite hit his
• 53:59
  stride yet in some of that, especially with the latter might
• 54:01
  just be, we're not doing enough of our bread-and-butter stuff
• 54:05
  good yet. That I'm not trying to throw
• 54:07
  more at them week to week. Yeah, so it's so it's again
• 54:13
  that's why I wanted Brian to speak to it again.
• 54:17
  I still like the scheme. I still think he's scheming
• 54:21
  people open. I think from what you told me.
• 54:23
  There were people open, we're just not getting there and it's
• 54:26
  kind of goes back to Grand and again, another knock on Grant.
• 54:28
  We're not trying to bury the guy here, but Brian you said it, you
• 54:33
  said it since week one, he locks onto that first receiver.
• 54:36
  When a lot of times it's the second read.
• 54:39
  It's getting open that if you got off of that guy quicker,
• 54:44
  there's a guy Wide Open Door and not a relatively easy throw, but
• 54:48
  they throw you can complete and get your quick.
• 54:52
  Yeah. And like I said, you know he
• 54:53
  needs to get some help from his receivers.
• 54:55
  There was a lot of drop balls. I know it was a little bit of a
• 54:58
  slick situation out there from time to time but well Misty yeah
• 55:02
  you know you got to grab those the other team did not struggle
• 55:06
  with with drops the way we did. So absolutely there's only so
• 55:10
  much. You can blame on the conditions
• 55:12
  there. So you got you got to help your
• 55:14
  quarterback out. If it's your quarterback as to
• 55:16
  understand and work within the framework of the scheme and get
• 55:20
  through those Scenes where he can get the ball to the guy that
• 55:24
  is coming, open in the offense. And I know another thing we
• 55:29
  talked about this a lot on the sidelines on the on the
• 55:32
  timeline, someone was saying, you know, check with me, they
• 55:39
  hate the check with me. And I kept saying right back to
• 55:44
  him if we can get into a rhythm and we can go Tempo.
• 55:47
  You're going to see less check with me but we can't right now
• 55:51
  we're not we're not dictating to the defense and we're not
• 55:54
  dictating to the defense then scheme matters more and so
• 55:59
  you're going to see a lot more check with me so we get in the
• 56:01
  best possible situation for that down in distance.
• 56:05
  There we go. All right for we jump over to
• 56:08
  pit we're going to take a look at a few kind of college
• 56:10
  football news. Oops.
• 56:12
  Obviously one that probably caught this fan bases.
• 56:15
  I more than anybody speaking of Robbie comfortable.
• 56:19
  We're talking about Joe, Robbie kind of kind of going back to my
• 56:22
  point there. Rebecca Sutter.
• 56:25
  Can't get the bread and butter. Right?
• 56:26
  Why? I had a wrinkle, there you go.
• 56:29
  Alright. But loan using notes, big one.
• 56:31
  That called. Every Hokies fans eyes was
• 56:34
  Devon. Ford no longer with Penn State
• 56:36
  team sounds like he is preserving his Red shirt and
• 56:41
  essentially will enter the portal.
• 56:42
  We are on now that the 45-day portal timeline, I mean, I'm
• 56:49
  pretty sure Brent Pride probably had a hand in recruiting Because
• 56:51
  he was up in Northern Virginia. So as far as you know, let's
• 56:55
  make the running back room bigger.
• 56:57
  Let's make the running back room, bigger.
• 57:02
  I mean, you know, I have no big problem with With us pursuing
• 57:09
  that because we need Frontline Talent across the board.
• 57:14
  I mean, there's not a position group.
• 57:17
  We're more than a handful of starters where you feel are.
• 57:24
  Absolutely absolutely locked in rock-solid couldn't be pressed
• 57:29
  by anybody else that you can get in the portal.
• 57:32
  So I think that's where you mean, you got to explore your
• 57:34
  options running back is probably not a need position but we could
• 57:39
  definitely upgrade the position I think and create more depth.
• 57:43
  Are I mean, you look at a team like, like pit that we're about
• 57:47
  to talk about. Out that, you know, they only
• 57:49
  got two healthy right now, but they've got essentially, three
• 57:53
  starting caliber running backs. Yep.
• 57:56
  And so, I mean, we and we've had that in our past, you know,
• 58:00
  looking back in at 2009 and 2010.
• 58:04
  So I mean, we understand, we understand the the ability to
• 58:10
  run three NFL caliber running backs out there.
• 58:14
  Yeah, it's And well we didn't ever run them correctly out
• 58:19
  there. Don't get me into that.
• 58:21
  When you have Evan Williams and somehow, we did not manage to
• 58:26
  have like a top 15 offense with three NFL running backs,
• 58:29
  multiple NFL wide receivers and if L quarterback, you want to
• 58:33
  get it. Let's go into 2009 episode 2010
• 58:36
  and get me, fired up. All right, we'll keep moving.
• 58:40
  We gotta roll here. All right, call the real out of
• 58:42
  Colorado, I don't think that's a shocker.
• 58:44
  I mean, literally, the worst team in P5.
• 58:46
  Both sides of the All know shot there but the shock one came
• 58:50
  Sunday night Paul Chris out at Wisconsin, Paul Chris basically
• 58:58
  I mean he's had it's not been a great start to this season, the
• 59:01
  guy's been there, six years. He's went to three BCS Bowls.
• 59:06
  He went 13 and 11 year. He won, you know, double-digit
• 59:10
  games four times, his too bad game, his too bad seasons were
• 59:14
  eight and nine. I'm I'm in one of those.
• 59:20
  One of those is worse. Year was the covid ear.
• 59:23
  There she I don't count the covid you, okay.
• 59:25
  I don't count that. You look at everything.
• 59:27
  On the thing around, I mean back in 2001.
• 59:31
  The 2013 20 they went 13 in one. The only loss was to Ohio State
• 59:38
  They lost of them by 6. And if it's one of these things
• 59:43
  where you if Wisconsin fired him, well, he can't get us over
• 59:46
  the top. There's not many people to get
• 59:49
  you over the top but now you're taking the guy who could
• 59:51
  potentially get you in a few years into the playoff run every
• 59:55
  year and you're firing him and I'm not knocking Jim Leonard.
• 59:59
  Jim Learners a hell of a defensive coordinator.
• 1:00:02
  But I mean if we need a special assistant to the head coach next
• 1:00:06
  year I'm hoping Joe there's a relationship there that we could
• 1:00:13
  fall still good man. Let's hope maybe you know we
• 1:00:17
  still need some death on the offensive line for next year
• 1:00:19
  too. So we'll see if any of those
• 1:00:21
  guys. Maybe they didn't take kindly to
• 1:00:24
  it. Let's hope that offensive
• 1:00:25
  lineman. Did take kindly to Fire and Paul
• 1:00:27
  crisp up. Yeah.
• 1:00:31
  Yeah. I'll be fine with that.
• 1:00:33
  I'll be fine with it. One last piece of news here in
• 1:00:38
  this is sort of hits close to us.
• 1:00:45
  This guy played at UVA, is name is Tyrone.
• 1:00:47
  Davis, if you're where we from Halifax County Virginia.
• 1:00:53
  Tyrone Davis has one of the three Sports guides that came
• 1:00:57
  through our high school. Tyrone went to UVA, he broke
• 1:01:01
  Herman, Moore is record. And I know these UVA guy and
• 1:01:04
  some people like what the hell you talking about this guy?
• 1:01:06
  He's from our hometown in was probably the greatest football
• 1:01:09
  player that ever came through. That he played seven years in
• 1:01:11
  the league. Any passed away today.
• 1:01:17
  And, you know, for us, he was just a little bit like we were
• 1:01:23
  forward. Five years old, he was playing
• 1:01:25
  before our team won state championship, but I wanted to
• 1:01:29
  mention it because again, there's a big three that came
• 1:01:33
  through Halifax. Tyrone was one, he played
• 1:01:35
  multiple years in the NFL, he was a D1 college stud.
• 1:01:40
  Terry Davis. Who it felt like played forever
• 1:01:44
  in the NBA in Germany and when I read it passed away, it kind of
• 1:01:49
  broke my heart a little bit and I know Brian you played more
• 1:01:53
  organized football and I know he was around back then and it's
• 1:01:56
  one of those things man. Yeah, I mean you know you always
• 1:02:00
  have those Hometown Heroes that you kind of looked up to and
• 1:02:03
  respected and you know he was kind of He was that era that
• 1:02:09
  ushered in the, you know, the best team that Halifax County
• 1:02:14
  has ever had, he was kind of, he was the Dwight Vic of that
• 1:02:17
  situation. He kind of laid the groundwork
• 1:02:19
  and then you know, you reach that height in 1999 so he wasn't
• 1:02:26
  like that for us and he was there when Fred Palmore was the
• 1:02:31
  head coach. And then, you know, there was
• 1:02:35
  there were some gains there. and, you know, I look back and
• 1:02:41
  like I said, he was one of the guys that we were kind of We
• 1:02:47
  point to say, okay, well they came from here, you know, when
• 1:02:51
  you're from Halifax County, small school relative to a lot
• 1:02:55
  of the teams that we were playing at the time and
• 1:02:58
  definitely one of the more rural schools in those districts.
• 1:03:04
  You know, you kind of look to guys like that and say, hey if
• 1:03:07
  he can make it out, if he can do those big things, you know,
• 1:03:09
  maybe I can too. So really sad, really, really,
• 1:03:14
  really, really That situation, but prayers, and thoughts to his
• 1:03:20
  family and to the community. Absolutely.
• 1:03:25
  All right, before we get into Know, The Enemy pit.
• 1:03:27
  We're going to take a quick pause from our digital Partners
• 1:03:31
  so now we move on to pit and we go too.
• 1:03:36
  Well, Heinz Field. It's also me Heinz Field.
• 1:03:39
  I don't care what the new name Max for sure Stadium Hans and we
• 1:03:44
  take a look at At the Pitt Panthers coming off.
• 1:03:48
  A loss to Georgia Tech, which I didn't.
• 1:03:51
  I know that game was only a cc Network.
• 1:03:53
  I'm here, in the cave. Saturday night, we're watching a
• 1:03:55
  movie, I got games going on, and I got somebody texting me, like,
• 1:04:00
  my cousin from South Carolina. Text me like, he'll spit doing
• 1:04:03
  Georgia Tech. And I was, like, what the hell
• 1:04:05
  do you mean? I look down, and it's like,
• 1:04:07
  they're winning is like, what the hell?
• 1:04:10
  Yep, I agree with that, Robbie 100%.
• 1:04:12
  All right, so we're going to look at them.
• 1:04:14
  I'm going to start. Let's talk.
• 1:04:15
  Kieron slow is the quarterback. He is a USC transfer to pit when
• 1:04:24
  he came out in 2019. He was a three star quarterback,
• 1:04:30
  go to USC. If you don't recall, he did take
• 1:04:33
  over the starting job from another guy.
• 1:04:34
  We saw this year, JT Daniels, where he had a really good 2019
• 1:04:38
  season where he threw for 30 touchdowns nine interceptions so
• 1:04:41
  far this season been kind of steady Eddie right at 1,000
• 1:04:44
  yards, five five TVs to pics. What are we seeing on slovis
• 1:04:52
  right now? Because this was a kind of a big
• 1:04:53
  pickup for them on a in the transfer portal this year,
• 1:04:57
  Braun. Yeah, you know, we're seeing
• 1:05:00
  some similar things that we saw from him in 2020.
• 1:05:05
  Sorry, 2021 with the was slovis there.
• 1:05:08
  He's a pro ready in terms of his accuracy and pocket awareness,
• 1:05:13
  really good at reading defenses and pretty regularly.
• 1:05:16
  He gets through those progressions, functional
• 1:05:19
  athleticism, in terms of escaping the pocket, but he
• 1:05:22
  typically only scrambles the kind of by time to pass or get
• 1:05:25
  rid of the football. He's not trying to scramble for
• 1:05:27
  first downs. Like we saw Drake may do last
• 1:05:30
  week, he has functional arm strength but so you can make all
• 1:05:36
  the throws but he's not a guy that's going to press it down.
• 1:05:38
  Feel consistently and he will occasionally lock onto his
• 1:05:42
  primary read when he's pressured consistent.
• 1:05:45
  So we can get some pressure on him.
• 1:05:46
  We can potentially get into situations where he's making
• 1:05:50
  some bad choices with the football.
• 1:05:52
  How did he look against the blitz?
• 1:05:54
  Because I think that's the way you're going to.
• 1:05:55
  Probably I think we're going to probably have to live and die by
• 1:05:58
  That the rest of the season? Yeah.
• 1:06:01
  And I think the way they operate, they are not an air a,
• 1:06:05
  they're not an RPO. There's some elements that they
• 1:06:07
  have in their offense but they're more, they're more
• 1:06:10
  multiple, they're more pro-style.
• 1:06:12
  We're going to have opportunities if we can slow
• 1:06:14
  their running game down, where we can get after him and cause
• 1:06:18
  him some problems. All right, so good deal there
• 1:06:22
  again. Slow, this is a good
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  quarterback. I'm not gonna knock him at that
• 1:06:25
  whatsoever, but as someone he's not what Kenny Pickett was in
• 1:06:30
  his 18th year, which you know, now, Kate biggest transition to
• 1:06:34
  the league, Kenny had a great Sunday, Brian, a no balls of his
• 1:06:39
  hit the ground. Yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Fortunately, through her to the other team.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah, it's one of those. One of those weird games where
• 1:06:48
  You know you complete everything just you know some of them
• 1:06:51
  didn't go the right way for you. Yeah.
• 1:06:54
  All right, let's take a look. Now we're going to look at two
• 1:06:56
  of their running guys because the first guy we're going to
• 1:06:58
  talk about here. Israel, Abaddon.
• 1:07:01
  The conda has been banged up recently, so not sure if we're
• 1:07:05
  going to see him before. I wanted to take a look at both
• 1:07:08
  because obviously, we don't talk about one.
• 1:07:11
  The guy will still show up Israel for Star Prospect when he
• 1:07:17
  came out in 20 from Brooklyn, New York Abraham, Lincoln High
• 1:07:21
  School. The number one player, in the
• 1:07:23
  state of New York and top 200 player on 24/7 and you know so
• 1:07:29
  far in his career you know, solid numbers you know just
• 1:07:34
  under 250 attempts right over twelve hundred fifty yards since
• 1:07:39
  2020 had a solid season last year.
• 1:07:43
  We're going to talk about a second one but let's talk about
• 1:07:45
  Israel up front. What's he bringing to the Table
• 1:07:49
  as far as it goes with their running back room.
• 1:07:51
  Yeah, it is. He's an experienced back with
• 1:07:54
  really good speed. He's really excellent at hitting
• 1:07:57
  the home, run when he gets to that second level, great, second
• 1:08:01
  level Vision, I'd give him only an average grade at the first
• 1:08:06
  level. He's you'll get in there, but if
• 1:08:10
  you can stop him at the first level, you're going to kind of
• 1:08:12
  keep him in check. But if he gets to that second
• 1:08:14
  level he is a big big Factor. He's not really a threat.
• 1:08:18
  The receiving game Beyond check Downs.
• 1:08:20
  They don't do a whole lot with him.
• 1:08:21
  In the screen game, they don't send him on those wheels or
• 1:08:25
  anything like that very consistently occasionally, he'll
• 1:08:28
  flare out, he'll catch something like that, but primarily, he's
• 1:08:31
  going to be a check down threat in the passing game.
• 1:08:35
  But again, his big abilities that home run home, run threat,
• 1:08:39
  when he gets the second and third level the defense.
• 1:08:43
  And I know we were talking about when we chatted this week.
• 1:08:46
  You were saying the guy. You feel like it's the best of
• 1:08:49
  the guy that's currently out in Rodney ham and Junior, but when
• 1:08:52
  his he got banged up, they brought in Vincent Davis, who's
• 1:08:56
  getting some more run, a 3 star out of Cardinal, Gibbons High
• 1:09:00
  School in Fort Lauderdale Florida and the 2019 class.
• 1:09:05
  What are they showing with Davis?
• 1:09:06
  Kind of a smaller back at 58 about 175 pounds.
• 1:09:10
  What's he doing for the pit offense?
• 1:09:12
  If he's going to be the primary guy, Saturday afternoon, Yeah,
• 1:09:15
  he's a little bit more steady Eddie in terms of his production
• 1:09:18
  whereas is he's definitely more of a boom and bust tight back.
• 1:09:21
  If he's not breaking a big one, usually it's a modest gain.
• 1:09:26
  Davis could kind of hit off those, you know, 8 to 15 yarders
• 1:09:30
  a little more consistently and that's mainly because he's more
• 1:09:33
  of a threat on the edge than he is between the tackles.
• 1:09:36
  So when he gets, when he gets to the edge, he's getting some
• 1:09:39
  consistent garbage there and he's kind of a good change of
• 1:09:43
  back, change of pace. But into what, what is he does?
• 1:09:47
  Well, and gives a little bit of extra wiggle at the line of
• 1:09:50
  scrimmage and they do use him a little bit more in the passing
• 1:09:54
  game than they do ab Anaconda. So you can look for that as
• 1:09:59
  well. And his role definitely
• 1:10:00
  increased when when riding Hammond went down and I think
• 1:10:03
  Hammonds probably the most balanced of the three, he's he's
• 1:10:09
  really good at kind of getting those those hard yards but he
• 1:10:15
  Also a guy that when he gets the second level, he can hurt you
• 1:10:18
  for it for a big run. Yeah.
• 1:10:20
  And Vincent Davis, the last two games which was against Rhode
• 1:10:25
  Island and obviously the loss against Georgia Tech.
• 1:10:28
  You know, 22 carries 131 yards on the ground with a touchdown.
• 1:10:32
  You mentioned the receiving threat Brian six, receptions 48
• 1:10:35
  yards. So obviously it's kind of weird
• 1:10:40
  to look at those two games but what they were doing is kind of
• 1:10:43
  balancing and everything. So he does have that Potential
• 1:10:46
  Threat. I hope he's the guy versus Izzy
• 1:10:52
  this week or there may be trying to get Izzy back because the one
• 1:10:57
  thing I don't think we can the team and our team, in general
• 1:11:01
  can't hold. Is someone breaking a big one?
• 1:11:03
  For a touchdown? We saw how much that hurt
• 1:11:05
  against you and see when they hit, what the the tide in seam
• 1:11:08
  route and some of the other deeper place.
• 1:11:10
  So a team that we can keep in front of us, Please we can come
• 1:11:14
  in front of us, is gonna definitely be big now, talking
• 1:11:17
  about keeping in front of you, one guy we do need to worry
• 1:11:21
  about in the outside is Jared Wayne six-foot-three 210-pound.
• 1:11:27
  He is a big bodied wide receiver so far this year, nineteen
• 1:11:31
  receptions 354 yards averaging right at 19 perception and when
• 1:11:37
  he came out Clearwater Florida a very low three star.
• 1:11:41
  So Something we talked about give put the credit they develop
• 1:11:46
  guys, they developed guys into being good Collegiate players
• 1:11:49
  and believe it or not. Primary recruiter remember this
• 1:11:53
  name? Kevin Sherman, old wide receiver
• 1:11:57
  coach what are you seeing with him on tape in this?
• 1:12:01
  He the guy that heat on will lock on.
• 1:12:05
  Sometimes he is the guy that he will like on often uses him as
• 1:12:12
  their primary. Receiving threat a and kind of
• 1:12:15
  as a safety blanket. So he is their primary target,
• 1:12:20
  mostly it intermediate-range threat a lot of stuff in that 15
• 1:12:25
  to 25 yard range for him will usually have at least, at least
• 1:12:31
  125 yard, plus catch a game. So, he will have an occasional
• 1:12:38
  deep ball. That goes his way that can burn
• 1:12:42
  us in one play. But he's more of a stick.
• 1:12:45
  Mover and a mister, real reliable for slovis.
• 1:12:49
  He's the guy that he's going to look for to kind of move the
• 1:12:52
  sticks that they're in those third and long and medium
• 1:12:57
  situations. All right, another name to keep
• 1:13:00
  an eye on is be kannada, mum failed in the rod receiver room.
• 1:13:05
  He is leading the team interception as he put a really
• 1:13:08
  good to put probably his second best game together against
• 1:13:11
  Georgia Tech. You know, did you see month?
• 1:13:16
  L don't take this. He is either slot guy.
• 1:13:17
  Or is he there? Why They move him around but he
• 1:13:22
  primarily Works underneath. He's a lot of the short stuff,
• 1:13:26
  okay, makes sense average in right at 10:10 of pop.
• 1:13:29
  So makes sense. They're all right.
• 1:13:32
  Ron, you've kind of mentioned it already.
• 1:13:33
  Let's hear a little bit about Their Own Line in this offensive
• 1:13:36
  scheme. Yeah.
• 1:13:38
  It's a multiple pro-style attack, a lot more balance this
• 1:13:43
  year and then we've seen with Whipple now that we got cignetti
• 1:13:48
  they're calling the offense They?
• 1:13:54
  They run the ball a whole lot more than I think we're used to
• 1:13:57
  from a, from a pit attack. They are more tight in heavy
• 1:14:01
  than we've seen recently although they don't use them a
• 1:14:04
  ton As Weapons. There, they're definitely in
• 1:14:06
  there for blocking they'll use a fullback, they got a heavy
• 1:14:09
  package with a bringing an extra offensive lineman so they really
• 1:14:13
  are kind of a little bit more old school in terms of how they
• 1:14:18
  like to attack a defense and they've got a veteran line that
• 1:14:22
  can be dominant. Times.
• 1:14:25
  But they can also be confused and overwhelmed the pressure.
• 1:14:28
  So I think that's probably how we're going to attack them is
• 1:14:30
  try to get them kind of off their game by run blitzes and
• 1:14:35
  bringing some pressure on those long down and distances.
• 1:14:40
  Yeah. Absolutely.
• 1:14:41
  They are running a lot more than they had in the past.
• 1:14:45
  You know, last year they were pretty balanced team this year.
• 1:14:48
  They're 60/40 against the run so but I think that's who know DZ
• 1:14:53
  is As though, I think if he sees that he doesn't quite have the
• 1:14:56
  talent, he'll play his brand of Defense, which you know, we're
• 1:14:59
  about to talk about here and sort of the cars where they fall
• 1:15:03
  and that's, that's it's been in the past and we've been the
• 1:15:08
  beneficiary, that's why they lose some games.
• 1:15:09
  Sometimes he does get into a conservative shell, but let's
• 1:15:13
  talk about the defense. And let's talk about kind of the
• 1:15:16
  man in the middle guy. We talked about, I feel like
• 1:15:18
  multiple times since we've started this podcast, so, how
• 1:15:22
  long has he been here? Cerveza, Dennis the six-foot-one
• 1:15:29
  230-pound linebacker, 2019 Class A to store out of the state of
• 1:15:35
  New York. They've definitely developed
• 1:15:37
  into a very solid Collegiate linebacker and what's the tape
• 1:15:43
  looking like with him run? Yeah, I mean we've seen service
• 1:15:48
  a dentist now for a while, he does a really good job attacking
• 1:15:52
  the Gap. He's used heavily in the Blitz
• 1:15:55
  game. They'll send him up the middle
• 1:15:57
  to send him off the edge. With some lines.
• 1:15:58
  Stunts does a good job of using his hands to shed blockers and
• 1:16:03
  is great in Pursuit. He can get picked on and
• 1:16:07
  coverage though. Especially when he's in the zone
• 1:16:09
  he looks really really hesitant. A lot of times when he's in zone
• 1:16:13
  coverage, when he's able to get a kind of more single In man
• 1:16:17
  coverage he does a little bit better.
• 1:16:18
  He does have that athleticism but he looks a little lost in
• 1:16:22
  zone from time to time. And with that being said, you
• 1:16:26
  know, he can get influence with some misdirection, some window
• 1:16:29
  dressing and things like that, that'll get him out of position.
• 1:16:34
  All right. Yeah.
• 1:16:35
  Now as far as it goes, he is, you know, one of their better
• 1:16:39
  tacklers, you know, the guys already got 38 tackles and, you
• 1:16:44
  know, five games for tackles for Lost some sacks.
• 1:16:48
  What are those sacks of those sacks coverage sex, or are they
• 1:16:51
  using them on a blitz? You already see?
• 1:16:54
  Yeah. They just want to blend pretty
• 1:16:55
  pretty regularly. Yeah.
• 1:16:57
  Sorry, I'm telling you all. My head is murdering me right
• 1:17:00
  now. All right, let's flip over next
• 1:17:04
  guy. You want to talk about as a guy
• 1:17:06
  at the back end. And that's effort Khalid, the
• 1:17:11
  the five foot eleven 195-pound defensive back out of Cypress,
• 1:17:14
  Texas. A three-star when he came out in
• 1:17:18
  2018, and so far this year, you know, 18 tackles couple
• 1:17:25
  interceptions to fumble, recoveries five pass breakups.
• 1:17:31
  They using them a lot in zone brown, or they kind of mix and
• 1:17:33
  matching with him. Mix-and-match he's really good
• 1:17:37
  at man coverage though in you know when they're bringing those
• 1:17:41
  prep, those pressures, a lot of times you will get locked up in
• 1:17:44
  man coverage usually on the tight end.
• 1:17:47
  Sorry on the slot opposite, the tight end and he's really good
• 1:17:50
  at diagnosing and attacking the short stuff behind the line of
• 1:17:55
  scrimmage. Passing game things like that.
• 1:17:57
  He'll get in there, get the tackle for loss, not afraid to
• 1:18:02
  bring a little Lumber. But just like Dennis, he can be
• 1:18:07
  influence with the play-action, the RPO, the misdirection, when
• 1:18:12
  he's in zone coverage. So that that's an area where we
• 1:18:14
  might be able to take advantage when they're not bringing
• 1:18:16
  pressure. All right, let's go to the
• 1:18:21
  defensive line. There's one guy that kind of
• 1:18:23
  caught your, I was expecting to see you put two defensive
• 1:18:27
  lineman on your run down when you send it over to me.
• 1:18:30
  But you only put one collage of can't see.
• 1:18:33
  The 6-foot 275 pound defensive lineman out of Northwestern High
• 1:18:39
  School in Miami, Florida. A three-star when he came out in
• 1:18:42
  2019 so far this year, 19 tackles seven and a half
• 1:18:47
  percent. Lost three sacks.
• 1:18:51
  Where is he? Promised he playing Brian.
• 1:18:53
  And what is he bringing to the table?
• 1:18:56
  Yeah, he's primarily the the to eye on this four-man front.
• 1:19:00
  He brings an elite combination of strength and athleticism
• 1:19:05
  graded penetrating at the snap sheds, blockers.
• 1:19:08
  Well, in the Run game has a really great motor as a pass
• 1:19:12
  rusher, but he does rely a lot on his physical tools when
• 1:19:16
  rushing the passer. So if you can slow his initial
• 1:19:20
  Birds, he doesn't really have a secondary move other than just,
• 1:19:24
  you know, keeping going and eventually trying to work his
• 1:19:27
  way to the quarterbacks, you know, that's an area where, if
• 1:19:31
  we can get a, get a good punch, keep our feet moving in front of
• 1:19:34
  the in front of him. We can potentially slow him down
• 1:19:37
  a little bit. But you know, I really like what
• 1:19:43
  he brings to the table. He's going to be a handful for
• 1:19:45
  sure. Who do you primarily see match?
• 1:19:48
  That puts him Saturday on our lawn.
• 1:19:51
  I mean it's going to be a lot of that interior there man is going
• 1:19:55
  to be Jessie, Jonny and Caden, okay?
• 1:20:01
  Usually I mean it's going to depend on the strength like I
• 1:20:07
  said, he's using that to eye rolls, so he'll be Beyond
• 1:20:12
  Johnny's played a good deal with all those those gaps games where
• 1:20:16
  he's blocking back against the to.
• 1:20:20
  I all right. Awesome.
• 1:20:22
  Let's flip back, let's go back to the secondary for one more
• 1:20:25
  player. You wanted to talk about and
• 1:20:27
  that's Brandon Hill, a five foot, eleven hundred ninety five
• 1:20:30
  pound defensive back another Florida kit, 3 star out of Kiva
• 1:20:36
  high school and a polka. Florida, 2019 class so far this
• 1:20:42
  year, we're taking a look at him and we, you know, 32 tackles
• 1:20:49
  Only one past deflection brine. I am assuming he's the strong
• 1:20:53
  safety yet. Strong safety.
• 1:20:56
  Actually the fastest player on the team.
• 1:20:58
  Okay. Sub for for Speed they got him
• 1:21:04
  routinely matched up against the tight end or the outside slot
• 1:21:08
  slot guy in man coverage, really great in Pursuit.
• 1:21:13
  He covers a lot of ground really quickly he does I will sometimes
• 1:21:18
  when he's accounted for by a blocker so he doesn't do a good
• 1:21:22
  job of getting off of blocks very well, especially when it's
• 1:21:25
  coming from a tight end or a lineman.
• 1:21:29
  And and he also can be influence with that.
• 1:21:32
  With that play action, there are P of the misdirection stuff.
• 1:21:36
  They primarily use him in the Run game and they also will use
• 1:21:41
  them a lot in the zone. And man, so they mix and match
• 1:21:45
  them a lot. Again.
• 1:21:46
  Everybody on this team is going to I have to have to have some,
• 1:21:50
  some degree of man coverage in their belt because of how much
• 1:21:52
  pressure they bring. All right, that makes sense.
• 1:21:56
  Now, when you talk about saying he's covering her, he does well
• 1:21:59
  covering the tight end and retaining matched up.
• 1:22:02
  Is it one of those things where he's maybe more playing a shadow
• 1:22:05
  and just using that athleticism to, they're going to make the
• 1:22:08
  catch, but when they make the catch, I'm going to turn the
• 1:22:10
  Jets on get there and get them down.
• 1:22:14
  Yeah, I mean he does a good job of kind of like I said, closing
• 1:22:17
  that Gap. He doesn't really do a whole lot
• 1:22:20
  of Smashing of the Titans. It's usually not in zone.
• 1:22:23
  It's usually in this man coverage is and he does a good
• 1:22:26
  job of staying on his man and closing the Gap.
• 1:22:29
  So you might get the completion, but you're not going to get a
• 1:22:33
  lot of those yards after the catch.
• 1:22:35
  Got it. All right.
• 1:22:36
  Let's do a quick. High level view of the scheme
• 1:22:38
  here with a patent are doozies. 425 Yeah, I mean, it's attacking
• 1:22:44
  425. We've seen it for years now.
• 1:22:47
  It's very familiar to Hokies. You know, they'll be bringing
• 1:22:53
  pressure consistently especially if we don't establish a run
• 1:22:56
  game, if they feel like they can tee off on us and make Grant
• 1:23:00
  Wells have to make a play, that's what they're going to do.
• 1:23:03
  And they probably will. Yeah, so they pursue really well
• 1:23:08
  as a unit in the running game and they flow to the point of
• 1:23:11
  attack very quickly. So, you got to be getting to
• 1:23:15
  your spot, staying on your blocks because they will flow to
• 1:23:19
  the ball and create some Havoc there.
• 1:23:22
  But as I said with the individual players as a team
• 1:23:25
  defense, they can also be susceptible to play action RPO
• 1:23:28
  and misdirection. So I imagine that we're going to
• 1:23:31
  probably have some of that in our pocket this week and since
• 1:23:36
  they bring pressure a lot they're running a lot of man.
• 1:23:38
  So we're going to eventually have to have to get some where
• 1:23:41
  we beat them. 20 yards plus down the field to keep them.
• 1:23:46
  Honest. Absolutely.
• 1:23:49
  And they're especially susceptible to that if you know
• 1:23:51
  the pressure doesn't get home a free order to be sure up front.
• 1:23:55
  Give Grant a good pocket. That's only going to make it
• 1:23:58
  harder on the back end for them to hold up in that man coverage.
• 1:24:00
  Yeah. All right.
• 1:24:01
  So let's flip it over to know the enemy and the Hokies keys.
• 1:24:04
  And I think Brian, that's one of the first things we look at,
• 1:24:06
  right? It's how do we take on the
• 1:24:09
  pressure? And not only how we take on the
• 1:24:12
  pressure up front. But can Tyler Bowen, where
• 1:24:15
  you've seen them scheme, some guys open, can he find the soft
• 1:24:18
  spots getting find where they're coming from and can grant Wells
• 1:24:22
  get there? How key is that going to be?
• 1:24:25
  Because if you tell me, you know, overall pass Pros been
• 1:24:27
  solid, not spectacular, but very solid, but if we're able to slow
• 1:24:32
  them up, when they bring the pressure, Is I mean, is this the
• 1:24:37
  game where Grant Wells is, got to take that step where it
• 1:24:39
  listen, there's going to be voided areas.
• 1:24:42
  You've got to know where their boarding, and you've got to get
• 1:24:44
  it there because we have the opportunity to break Place.
• 1:24:48
  Yeah. And some of this is going to be
• 1:24:50
  about understanding, you know, where the where the man coverage
• 1:24:55
  is and where the mismatch in man coverage is and being able to
• 1:24:59
  diagnose that before the snap that way.
• 1:25:02
  If if you know, That you got a mismatch somewhere in, further
• 1:25:09
  down your progression, you know, you can come off of your primary
• 1:25:13
  if it's not there, right out the gate and know that you probably
• 1:25:16
  have a mismatch on your secondary read.
• 1:25:19
  So, that's that's what you he's gonna have to work on
• 1:25:21
  identifying this week and that might help him take advantage of
• 1:25:24
  some of the Yards that we've been leaving out on the field.
• 1:25:27
  All right, I think another key this week, Brian, and we saw you
• 1:25:31
  get cleaned up again is penalties.
• 1:25:34
  You know, the UNC game. I think it was 34 22 and one was
• 1:25:40
  very early with Silas with the false start but it was overall,
• 1:25:45
  we played a very clean game and I think to have any In you.
• 1:25:51
  And then, you know we look at Pitt hits on the bottom side
• 1:25:54
  with us, right? Yeah. 84th in the country,
• 1:25:59
  averaging over 60 yards per game on the penalty.
• 1:26:01
  So if we can do what we did last week and they are there normal
• 1:26:06
  cells, maybe we can gain a few advantages in the middle of his
• 1:26:10
  apartment. Yeah, I think if we continue to
• 1:26:13
  clean things up but also play better, right?
• 1:26:18
  I think ya can ratchet up our play but still keep it clean.
• 1:26:22
  The think that's important because I think, you know, our
• 1:26:25
  defense has played two good games where they were penalized
• 1:26:28
  a lot. Yeah, we need to have the, the
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  good without the bad. Yeah.
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  If we can do that, I think we've got something that we can work
• 1:26:36
  with in this game. Now I'm going to say a point
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  goes back to our first show, Kiki, those taken deep shot.
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  We know that patent are doozies. Defensive backs are handsy, they
• 1:26:48
  like to grab. They like the pool.
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  So I think you're thinking about take some deep shots, it falls
• 1:26:53
  right into that, get some penalties on them.
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  Give them frustrated, the all remember, 2016.
• 1:26:59
  And what an enjoyable treat that was that night.
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  As they could not stop a fade or down bill passed.
• 1:27:05
  And they had like nine penalties and he lost his mind and I think
• 1:27:09
  it's I think it's something else that we're Caleb.
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  Actually in, you know, maybe look at Jalen Jones as we saw
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  him seen him. Go up.
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  Maybe Daquan, right? Say screw it, go down the
• 1:27:21
  sidelines and just throw it up. We know they get handsy.
• 1:27:24
  If it looks bad enough, we may be able to take advantage of
• 1:27:28
  their aggressiveness. I came to take advantage of
• 1:27:30
  ours, make a throw that gives your guy a chance to get it, but
• 1:27:36
  isn't going to be a pic if they don't 100%.
• 1:27:41
  All right, something I'm gonna kind of call out the defense
• 1:27:44
  for. We've got a for some turnovers
• 1:27:47
  we have to the games, we have forced turnovers in think about
• 1:27:51
  the PC game, that early turnover, set the momentum.
• 1:27:55
  We are 115 in the country and forcing turnovers.
• 1:27:59
  We only had 4 for the year. And in his aggressive as we've
• 1:28:04
  been, we know this default fence need short Fields, so any sort
• 1:28:11
  of thing like that. And it's, and it's sort of crazy
• 1:28:14
  because, you know, we saw the West Virginia game with the
• 1:28:17
  forced turnover Midfield. We did nothing with and then
• 1:28:19
  obviously the DC gain we ended up scoring but Is it one of
• 1:28:23
  those things is this the week where those prying the defense
• 1:28:28
  say listen, we got to take risks.
• 1:28:31
  We've got to take some high-risk to forced turnover.
• 1:28:33
  So if you think you see a ball that's going to be thrown
• 1:28:37
  jumping? Because right now it's sort of
• 1:28:41
  we're not Death By A Thousand Cuts because the cuts are bigger
• 1:28:46
  but that's the way we're losing games, right?
• 1:28:50
  Yeah, but I think you still want you want to still play Within
• 1:28:52
  the scheme of the defense, okay. So I think you want to, you
• 1:28:57
  know, I think prior might dial up some more consistent pressure
• 1:29:01
  this week because he's going to have the opportunity to, I think
• 1:29:06
  if we can do anything to slow down their running game, then
• 1:29:10
  we've got some opportunities to get them in bed down and
• 1:29:13
  distances and they're not as deadly as the last two teams.
• 1:29:19
  We play. In moving the sticks.
• 1:29:21
  Yeah, with that type of game with the quick passing game,
• 1:29:26
  some of their things. Take a little bit more time to
• 1:29:28
  develop just the nature of the offense, there will be some more
• 1:29:32
  opportunities to get after the quarterback.
• 1:29:35
  I think this week than we've seen the last two weeks.
• 1:29:38
  So I think you see the blitzes get dialed up a lot more
• 1:29:41
  frequently and hopefully that can you know, whether it's, you
• 1:29:45
  know forcing a fumble in the back field, whether it's getting
• 1:29:49
  an interception And hopefully, that'll, you know, we can come
• 1:29:52
  home with least two in our belt this week.
• 1:29:55
  Absolutely. Last part of hokey Keys again.
• 1:29:58
  I think seeing them on the depth chart seen him warm up last
• 1:30:00
  week. I think it's a potential return
• 1:30:03
  of Malachi Thomas park, because the offense need something, they
• 1:30:06
  need something to look forward to.
• 1:30:08
  And I think having a guy like malachite guy who's consistent
• 1:30:12
  come back on the field in regardless of how many plays it
• 1:30:16
  is, I don't know how they're going to get him back in.
• 1:30:18
  I don't know how He is as far as his conditioning us.
• 1:30:23
  But you often see that sometimes right?
• 1:30:26
  One guy that well like that people feel good that can make
• 1:30:29
  plays comes back. All of a sudden, everybody feels
• 1:30:32
  better. Everybody focus is a little bit
• 1:30:34
  more. Everybody done presses much and
• 1:30:36
  the next thing you know the three yard run is going eight.
• 1:30:40
  The 8-yard runs going 28, you're hitting a big play downfield.
• 1:30:44
  So I mean, maybe I'm just looking at my room glasses but I
• 1:30:48
  think I'm coming back. Regardless on the field will be
• 1:30:51
  a little spark to this team if this is the weekend, which I
• 1:30:54
  hope it. It'll help.
• 1:30:56
  And like I said, I think it's one of those little things where
• 1:30:59
  you know, things he can give you is, you know, now one or two,
• 1:31:03
  your game becomes a 5 or 6 yard gain Now, you're not behind the
• 1:31:08
  sticks. Now, you're able to do a little
• 1:31:10
  bit more with your offense, the way you want to more
• 1:31:13
  consistently. So I don't think, I don't think
• 1:31:16
  it's going to be a big boost, but I think it'll be it'll help
• 1:31:19
  you in a little ways. They might add up to Big ways.
• 1:31:22
  Right? So we'll see, you know, a lot of
• 1:31:27
  this is going to depend on his, his conditioning level.
• 1:31:30
  Is he going to be more of a, at least this week, just a 325
• 1:31:34
  series type type. Or is it going to be something
• 1:31:38
  where, you know, we go ahead and give him kind of to second man.
• 1:31:44
  Carries week one. Yeah, we'll see.
• 1:31:47
  But if I'm hoping, he's able to go and at least give us a little
• 1:31:50
  something this week, abso-freakin'-lutely.
• 1:31:52
  All right. Brian.
• 1:31:53
  Well it's time. Let's get our game predictions
• 1:31:55
  in here. You let last week.
• 1:31:57
  I'll leave this week. I'm still not feeling great
• 1:32:02
  about the team of still, it's still tough for me to put a win
• 1:32:06
  on the books until we see some fundamental changes and things
• 1:32:12
  going in the right direction. Do I think?
• 1:32:15
  This is a better ballad was last week.
• 1:32:18
  Yeah, even though it coming off a loss of Georgia Tech that it's
• 1:32:22
  inexplicable, I think the familiarity with pit from Brent
• 1:32:28
  Pride playing four times a You know, folks on the staff playing
• 1:32:32
  pick the last few years, I think it's going to be a better game
• 1:32:35
  than last week. I can't, I can't put us taking
• 1:32:39
  the win. I think we lose somewhere, like,
• 1:32:41
  3220. I think it's a 10-point game.
• 1:32:44
  I think it's a fight, and it's a fight all the way.
• 1:32:48
  I just think they get a little bit of a head in the, you know,
• 1:32:52
  the early third quarter, where they keep us at bay where again,
• 1:32:55
  we don't have that capability to make a couple of big plays.
• 1:33:00
  What? Bout you.
• 1:33:01
  I'm in the similar area I've got us going 27:16 as the final, I
• 1:33:10
  think we do a little bit better. It read the ball.
• 1:33:12
  Consistently to get it into the scoring range, but I think we
• 1:33:16
  still struggle to kind of get it over the goal line.
• 1:33:19
  Like we like we've been struggling recently.
• 1:33:20
  I think we get it in the scoring area but we come away with three
• 1:33:23
  a little bit more often than we than we want to.
• 1:33:27
  But we put together a few more drives that get us some points
• 1:33:29
  this week. We've seen the last few weeks.
• 1:33:31
  So I think it's going to be, like I said, 27:16 pit does just
• 1:33:38
  enough off fensively against our defense to kind of put them over
• 1:33:42
  the top there at the end. Yeah and we're hoping we're
• 1:33:44
  wrong completely wrong. Always what I hope is before the
• 1:33:48
  end of it. All right for on big screeners
• 1:33:52
  great great call last week on the Ole Miss game got.
• 1:33:57
  I'm not sure if you went to like FanDuel or something in late.
• 1:34:00
  Deadly. I'm laying money line, and I'm
• 1:34:02
  laying this. I wish I would have, man, you
• 1:34:05
  nailed it. I would have been sweating.
• 1:34:06
  The whole way though, I would even would have whole damn way.
• 1:34:09
  What had been sweating? The whole my game last week I
• 1:34:13
  was 11, that turnover deep is what got?
• 1:34:16
  It's a 10-point game. Probably should have been a
• 1:34:18
  seven right into number four, a push.
• 1:34:20
  But it is what it is. What's your big screen this
• 1:34:23
  week? Obviously, this weekend is going
• 1:34:25
  to be a beautiful weekend. To not sit inside.
• 1:34:28
  So which one are you kind of saying?
• 1:34:30
  Well, go out and do things here. I'm going to go ahead and throw
• 1:34:36
  that that Kansas TCU on my big screen this week, buddy.
• 1:34:40
  All right. That's, that's an intriguing
• 1:34:43
  matchup because you got TCU Sunny Dykes has them rolling
• 1:34:49
  early. Absolutely rolling offensively.
• 1:34:53
  You know, then you got Kansas that that's really kind of
• 1:34:56
  turned and turned it around after some real bad years for
• 1:35:01
  them. So, you know, we'll see if
• 1:35:04
  Kansas has the ability to take that next step and beat a team
• 1:35:09
  that has put some good football out there in recent years.
• 1:35:12
  So I like that matchup. It's a little bit of a different
• 1:35:17
  look. I think so usually, don't see
• 1:35:19
  TCU in Kansas in a in a prime prime matchup game.
• 1:35:23
  So now you don't have known her going to be a high noon.
• 1:35:26
  Our game day is going to be there and now it's like only
• 1:35:30
  five division are five power, five schools that have never
• 1:35:34
  gotten. The visit UVA is included in one
• 1:35:37
  of those hands. It's Kansas not set off.
• 1:35:42
  I like that game. I'm probably not going to see
• 1:35:44
  any of that game due to sports, but I'm waiting until the
• 1:35:49
  evening. And there's a lot of rank
• 1:35:51
  matchups this week. I mean, you got that game,
• 1:35:53
  you've got Tennessee LSU, as there's a noon game.
• 1:35:57
  You've got UT Utah UCLA. You got Auburn Georgia.
• 1:36:01
  Oldest rivalry in the Deep South, but, you know,
• 1:36:07
  essentially a holy would be why, you know, the name.
• 1:36:09
  But I've got my hides going around.
• 1:36:12
  And I want to know, if USC's a real deal.
• 1:36:15
  And I think they're going to get a challenge this week with Wazoo
• 1:36:18
  coming into town to the Coliseum. 7:30, so I will be
• 1:36:21
  able to watch it. That's also something that
• 1:36:24
  determines if I big screening if I can be Brother double vision
• 1:36:27
  to watch it. And that line right now is 13
• 1:36:33
  points. Why zoos lost one game where
• 1:36:39
  Oregon scored 29 Points in 14 minutes and 50 seconds.
• 1:36:44
  They should be five a note because Oregon pull one out of
• 1:36:48
  the errors on that one. I'm but I think this is a real
• 1:36:53
  test for u.s. you have AB you have a balanced Washington State
• 1:36:55
  team. I mean their defense with the
• 1:36:58
  exception of that quarter has played very well they want in a
• 1:37:00
  tough environment so that's the one I'm going to be watching.
• 1:37:07
  Who do you think in your game? You go in Kansas, you think, TC,
• 1:37:10
  you texted? I feel like TCU has the the
• 1:37:17
  better end of the talent although I feel like Kansas has
• 1:37:22
  just been playing with with a little extra spark.
• 1:37:25
  So I've been leaning back and forth.
• 1:37:30
  You know, the the frogs are, are the favorite here by six points.
• 1:37:37
  I'm going to go what I did last week, I'm going to take Kansas
• 1:37:41
  in the points. But I think TCU wins out, right?
• 1:37:45
  All right, all right. Popcorn game, we're in the 30s
• 1:37:51
  or 40s. Oh yeah.
• 1:37:52
  Oh yeah. Whatever we're over is hammer it
• 1:37:56
  a seven and a half in my game. I'm going to take you to see the
• 1:38:01
  lines 13. I don't think they can cover
• 1:38:03
  that but I do think USC does get it done.
• 1:38:08
  As much as I liked was doing. They kind of had a that one
• 1:38:11
  sucky loss. I think I think USC is you know
• 1:38:16
  going to get it done. But it's going to be a lot
• 1:38:19
  closer than 13 points. In my opinion.
• 1:38:22
  Brian has anything broken in the last little while here?
• 1:38:29
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• 1:38:33
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