Latest / Financial Survival Network / Blow-Out Jobs Report — John Rubino #5851
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- 0:00And every time there's a good financial number that comes out that scares the markets
- 0:05into thinking that maybe interest rates are going to keep cooing up, which they
- 0:08are, you know. And it's what appened today was we had to blow
- 0:10out jobs number, like you said, and interest rates went up in the
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- 0:47I'm your host, Kerrie Letts. Well, blowout jobs report? What does
- 0:51that do? It breaks the markets because bad news is good news and good
- 0:56news is bad news. And I'll leave it to John Rabe you find him
- 1:00at Rabeto dot substack dot com to figure out which is which because I don't
- 1:06know anything anymore. John. So is the job report a good sign or
- 1:11is it a bad sign? Hey? Jerry, Well, you know,
- 1:14normally rising employment is a good thing, and it would be in the normal
- 1:18world, but this isn't the normal world, and end up, especially with
- 1:22the financial markets. They they got so full by the FED pausing in its
- 1:26interest rates increases last month, m into thinking that this was it, that
- 1:32we were done and we were going to go back to easy money. But
- 1:34it turns out that's not the case. And every time there's a good financial
- 1:38number that comes out, that scares the markets into thinking that maybe interest rates
- 1:42are going to keep coming up, which they are, you know. And
- 1:45so it's what happened today was we had to blowout jobs number, like you
- 1:49said, and interest rates went up in the US. The ten year treasury
- 1:53no yield is now back up over four percent in the US, and mortgages
- 1:59are backup over seven percent. So those numbers are extremely bad for financial asset
- 2:06prices because, for instance, stocks compete with bombs, and when the yield
- 2:14on a bond or on a money market fund or a short term piece of
- 2:16treasury paper or whatever the rises way above the dividend yield and the average stock
- 2:23then people see no reason to take the risk of stocks when they can get
- 2:27twice the yield by buying fixed income paper, and so that's bad for the
- 2:32stock market. Also, rising interest rates lead to recessions, which is also
- 2:38bad for stock crisis. So now stocks it starts, are down hard today
- 2:42as interest rates are out and the reason for that is that now everybody's starting
- 2:46to think, oh my god, maybe interest rates are going to go up
- 2:50and that's going to break the market and cause of recession? And what kind
- 2:53of a recession will it be? Will it be really deep and dark like
- 2:55two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, will it be even worse
- 2:58than that, like the the gloom and doom set And soon you've got stocks
- 3:01tanking now And in any event, this market is so overdone. You know,
- 3:09this is the worst market breath that the US hayson P five hundred has
- 3:15ever seen. There are only five stocks now recounting for almost half the increase
- 3:21in the SMP five hundred in the last year, and that can't be sustained.
- 3:25So you know, we're at at the point where interest rates are still
- 3:30going up, and that they're at they're at a level that can break the
- 3:34market. Eden stocks are starting to fall and the Fed has no choice but
- 3:38to raise from here and definitely not tightened from here. So this is a
- 3:44really it's really a normal historical setup or a nasty equities bear market. So
- 3:52let's see if it plays out that way. But this is how it went
- 3:54in nineteen ninety nine and two thousand when the tech stock bubble burst, and
- 3:59in two thousand and seven two thousand and eight when the housing bubble burst,
- 4:02interest rates went up along with stocks until rates were high enough to break the
- 4:06market. We're kind of back there again right now. So let's see if
- 4:10it plays out the same way, which means, let's see if we get
- 4:13a nasty equities bear market from all of it. Hey, and it threw
- 4:16in on that. On top of all that, the Supreme Court saying that
- 4:23the President doesn't have the authority to negate student loan debt, which is supposed
- 4:30to cost to student loan borrows, and now fifteen point one billion per month,
- 4:34and you you got the makings of an interesting economic meltdown. One thing
- 4:41I would like to point out I've pointed out on other shows John the top
- 4:46publicly traded homes builders last week, so other stocks hit a five year high,
- 4:54and with interest rates going up, is is completely counterintuitive. And and
- 5:00we also saw a new home sales rebound. Was it either last week or
- 5:04the week before. So maybe all this is just the subterfuge and the money's
- 5:12really going to start pouring out even more soon. I'm not sure what to
- 5:15think. I have the home builders as short candidates on my substack portfolio,
- 5:21and the reason for that is that, as you said, rising mortgage rates
- 5:26tending to hurt the housing industry and the home builders in particular, because they're
- 5:30you know, they're like the leverage play. You know, they've got hey
- 5:34roles and they've got inventory and everything, so they need a steady flow of
- 5:39new houses and they fat rise up. Then their business model just crashes and
- 5:43burns and their stocks tank at all. That has happened in the past,
- 5:46so we'll see if it happens again. But they're down hard today at least
- 5:51where you're right. Yeah, everything's down pretty hard today, and the home
- 5:57builders are among the stocks that are getting act along with all the commodity complex
- 6:01and you know, gold and silver. Everybody's down. I have a big
- 6:05long portfolio on the subtack and literally one stock out of maybe thirty is up
- 6:13today. And that's something I'm junior miner that has some specific thing happening today.
- 6:17It's really good. Otherwise everything is getting smashed us to struck plutonium in
- 6:24the Ukraine or something like. Yeah, I should have looked at see why
- 6:27it was up, you know, because there might be a reason. Well
- 6:30I know what it is. I'm sorry, and I do know what it
- 6:31is. They fired their CEO a couple of days ago. Well that's bullet
- 6:35and well you know, the stock tanked. So now it's rebounding from being
- 6:41down like twelve percent a couple of days ago when most of the miners were
- 6:44up. So I don't know everything. Effectively, everything is down now,
- 6:49okay, So, as you like to call it, the big toy indicators
- 6:55flashing RV sales and ROLLIC sales are down bigly. We've been sounding the alarm
- 7:01about rolex Is for a good three or four months, but normally you'll get
- 7:08a blip on that indicator and then they'll go higher. It just tells me
- 7:12that things in China are way worse than anybody any of you out there think.
- 7:16It's even in really weird times. There's a lot of billionaires out there
- 7:19buying the most expensive thing in whatever category, right, so there's always a
- 7:24market or high end stuff, which means when when high end things roll over
- 7:30that means you've got trouble in a sector of the economy that doesn't normally display
- 7:35trouble. And rolexes are a good time event. So so rbs, I
- 7:40mean, our RV's a one step down. They're not the rolex population.
- 7:44They are the you just say eat a bellomn RVs are for suburban guys.
- 7:51Well, actually there are two categories of RB buyers. One is the people
- 7:55in the RB subculture where they drive around and they park at different places,
- 8:00meet their friends and have a great time. That's fine, that's that's a
- 8:03subculture that does its phone thing, and that they aren't really a sign of
- 8:07anything. But the part of the RV market that is a sign of something
- 8:13is the suburban male. It's always the husband, okay, who has the
- 8:18boat and the motorcycle and a big house and he's looking around for the next
- 8:24toy, and he says, why don't I buy a house on wheels pop
- 8:28one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and drive it somewhere once every three months?
- 8:33You know, That's basically how it works. So at the peak of the
- 8:35cycle, when when guys like that are at their most confident, is when
- 8:41RV sales boom, and then at the bottom of the cycle, when everybody's
- 8:46having to go through their toy inventorI and sell them all. Um, that's
- 8:50when RB prices crash. So we're starting to see that market rollover rbs.
- 8:56RBY prices are down, RBY sails are down, but he's still wearing your
- 9:00overall. You know. I looked up what it costs to borrow money to
- 9:03buy an RV, and the potential interest rate is crazy. Like at the
- 9:07low end it's just eight or nine percent, so it's not much more than
- 9:11a house, but the range can go up into the twenties and thirties percentage
- 9:16wise, which means if you don't have great credit you try to buy an
- 9:20RV, they believe you dry and so there's probably people out there doing that
- 9:24too. So at higher rates really impact everything bought US sales, home sales,
- 9:33RV sales. I don't know how many people buy rolex Is on credit,
- 9:37but there's probably a number out there that dode if you have to borrow
- 9:43to buy a Rolex. Yeah you're not a legit rich guy, you know,
- 9:48but you're a pretender. Yeah you're opposer, but credit. Look,
- 9:54credit runs the economy. So the question is when things really start blowing up,
- 10:01John, how long is it going to take the FED to go into
- 10:03full scale panic mode and say, uh, we didn't really mean it.
- 10:07We're going to support economic growth and inflations under control. We're not worrying about
- 10:15that. So everything is great. By the way, a July fourth cookout
- 10:20was up, but twenty nine percent this year from last year. So I
- 10:26mean, yeah, especially if you're cooking steak, then it's up even more.
- 10:31It's like double hot dogs. Well, whatever they throw in there,
- 10:35hot dogs are the ultimate proof that the substitute effect is alive and will right,
- 10:41because if they can't get whatever they throw in there, they can always
- 10:45find something cheaper to put into a hot dog. Right. Um. Yeah,
- 10:52that's like the old saying is you don't never want to see how your
- 10:56laws and your sausages get made. Odd dogs are then example of that case.
- 11:01You know, you go to a hot dog factory and never eat hot
- 11:03dogs again. That actually happened to my sister. She went out a tour
- 11:07of a hot dog factory. This is like forty years ago, and she
- 11:11never ate meat after that. She not only stopped eating hot dogs, she
- 11:16became a vegetarian. Is though the same thing happened with Milton Burrel. His
- 11:20friend took him on a tour of a slaughterhouse, and this was back in
- 11:26the forties, and for the rest of the guy's life sixty some odd years,
- 11:30he never eat another piece of meat. So this is a case where
- 11:35ignorance truly is bliss. Well, you know what I think that we should
- 11:39ask Robert F. Kennedy Junior to do when he becomes president is put on
- 11:46amcourt, not cam qurters what you know, killibras, Yeah, body jams
- 11:52like the car what webcams, that's the word. I was thinking of webcams
- 11:56in all the slaughter house so that there would be channels where we could go
- 12:00online to see what's happening in you know, sniffield farms, um slaughter houses,
- 12:07and then we would see where our food comes from. And I think
- 12:11that would be very useful information. You know, I've talked about this with
- 12:16other people who said, no, now we you know, nobody would eat
- 12:20meat anymore. We can't do that. Well, you know, if that
- 12:22would be the price of knowing the truth, so be it. But you
- 12:28know, I think we should know all of this stuff, all these things
- 12:31where we we only do things because we don't know the truth of it.
- 12:35We should really know the truth of it, and slaughter houses are definitely one
- 12:39of those things. Maybe then they can put some cams up in the cricket
- 12:45farms, since that's what the World Economic Form is trying to get us to
- 12:50eat, to insect protein because it's good for you, right, yeah,
- 12:54yeah. You know. The thing is, I don't necessarily have anything against
- 12:58the concept of eating bugs, because eating you know, when you think about
- 13:01eating meat, that's pretty gross too, and I totally do that, But
- 13:05if it comes from the World Economic Forum, I'm automatically against it now.
- 13:11So it doesn't even you know, seventeen minutes cities or whatever, fifteen minutes
- 13:15cities, you name it. There. Every one of their ideas is horrible
- 13:20or at least easy to spin in a horrible way. So, you know,
- 13:26the only optimistic thing that I get from the World Economic Forum and George
- 13:33Soros and people like that that they're all incredibly old. You know, Bill
- 13:37Gates is a he's seventy something years old. Klaus Schwab is looking like Joe
- 13:43Biden, and George Soros just retired, So it could be that that whole
- 13:46generation of would be dictators is going to leave the stage before they succeed in
- 13:54taking over. The next generation who comes in won't be nearly as crazy as
- 13:58the current generation. We'll see. That would be a nice thing to hope
- 14:01for. Paris's son seems to be as crazy as him, like when it
- 14:05comes to putting in prosecutors who just let criminals walk, and well, you
- 14:11know, we don't have to get into all that, but yeah, what's
- 14:15bad for the World Economic Forum is generally good for humanity. But if you
- 14:20watch what's happening in France, I mean, this is like the George Foy
- 14:26Floyd riots on steroids. They've called out forty thousand cops. If it continues
- 14:33all much longer, they'll be there'll be a shoot to kill or shoot to
- 14:37injure. Well, that is the that is the inevitable result of open borders.
- 14:43If you if you let so many people come in that um it's impossible
- 14:48to integrate and assimilate them into a society in an orderly way. M Then
- 14:54you get stuff like this because you basically create a second cl as citizen read
- 15:01that is so big that it can't be managed, and that's what happened with
- 15:07Europe in general, in France in particular, and uh, you know,
- 15:11what's what is their choice now? Um, they could round up the last
- 15:16five years worth of immigrants and ship them to Algeria or someplace, or they
- 15:20could try to assimilate them, um in ways that it would be incredibly uncomfortable
- 15:28for the you know, the native French population. And I don't know what
- 15:33other solution there is. You know, you only have those two solutions because
- 15:35um, either you you know, you change your culture in ways that make
- 15:41it possible for everybody to get along, or you slice off a big chunk
- 15:46of the culture and ship it somewhere else. And neither of those is a
- 15:50workable solution. So I don't know what they're They're prognosis is it doesn't look
- 15:56good. No, well, you know, they kind of have these things
- 15:58that happened regularly, Like New Year's they burn hundreds of cars throughout the country.
- 16:07They burned down the public library in Marseille. Now, like what library
- 16:11wasn't doing any harm? Where they're going to put their homeless people. If
- 16:17it's like the United States, we house a lot of homeless people during the
- 16:22day at libraries, public libraries throughout the country. So which is really where
- 16:27not where you should put awnless people. You know, any plans we're putting
- 16:32our kids, we should not simultaneously put homelest people. But um, yeah,
- 16:36you know we're we're seeing the early version of what France is going through
- 16:40because the quality of life in our big cities is already just plunging. Oh
- 16:45and that's not that's not largely an immigration thing. That's more of a drug
- 16:52and mental illness thing, you know, where we're just not managing those populations
- 16:57the way you have to. You know, there are places that have done
- 17:02it well. Switzerland confronted the whole drug thing and solved it, and a
- 17:07lot of cities that don't have homeless people. You know, they figure it
- 17:10out and made it work. You need they see the solutions cross political lines.
- 17:18That's the problem. You need some stuff that conservatives are appalled by,
- 17:22and you need some stuff that liberals just won't do under any circumstances unless there's
- 17:27the gun to their head in order to make us to work. Apparently based
- 17:32on the places where it has worked, So we need some really painful compromise
- 17:38on these issues or other or else it's just going to keep getting worse,
- 17:41you know, And we need to obviously close down the southern border for ten
- 17:47years while we try to sort out all the people that have come in and
- 17:53in the last few years. And then we need to institute policies it tongue,
- 18:00you know, make it illegal to camp in downtown San Francisco, stuff
- 18:06like that. Yeah, and not just there, it's Austin. It's the
- 18:10only cities where homelessness isn't really a huge huge problem are the cities that really
- 18:17crack down on public drug use. And they arrest these people and they say,
- 18:22you can go to jail, or you can go to drug treatment,
- 18:26but you're not going back, and they keep doing it until finally, hopefully
- 18:30these people come to terms. But you know, if PJ. Or Rourke
- 18:34said that, I think it was him that said a liberal is just a
- 18:38Republican who hasn't been mugged yet. Well, yeah, maybe we should change
- 18:44that to a liberal is a conservative who hasn't stepped in human excrement yet in
- 18:51one of our major metropolitan areas across the country. Yeah. Yeah, you
- 18:56know, in this given time, if we don't have a societal collapse because
- 19:02of our finances and we don't have a nuclear war. We won't work this
- 19:06stuff out because these problems are solvable, immigration and homelessness and drug use,
- 19:12that this is all stuff that can be fixed by a healthy society willing to
- 19:18think outside the box. My beer, especially for my kids who are going
- 19:23to have to live there a dull lodge in the world that we're creating,
- 19:26is that we're not going to be the kind of healthy society that's able to
- 19:30fix these basic problems because we're screwing up on such a fundamental level. Otherwise,
- 19:34we're on the verge of World War three twice with Russia and China,
- 19:40and we're we're heading off a financial cliff that is just going to be so
- 19:45brutal when the time comes. But yeah, but all of that is a
- 19:49little bit further down the road, and right now we've got a garden variety
- 19:53or recession coming, garden variety, equities, bear market, that kind of
- 19:57stuff. And so that's a lot to talk about for us in an ongoing
- 20:03way. But we still got these big looming things out there. But I
- 20:10think are the really scary part of the picture today. Let's not forget that
- 20:14our generation, the baby boomers are also retiring, drawing down on Social Security
- 20:19and Medicare and Medicaid too, because if you don't have enough money for a
- 20:25nursing home, you go on Medicaid in most states, and they pay for
- 20:29it. So intractable, intractable problems by any stretch, How do you You
- 20:36can't say to you and me, Look, we understand you paid into Social
- 20:41Security and Medicare your whole lives, but there just isn't enough to go around,
- 20:47So take half. You know that is not a recipe to get reelected
- 20:52in the modern America, is it No? But mathematically it has to happen
- 20:57one way or an of it. Here's what baby boomers did when seen through
- 21:03the eyes of younger generations. Here we the boomers brand forty or fifty years
- 21:11of extremely easy money policies which made our stocks go way up and our houses
- 21:18go way up. So we have massive paper wealth right now, and younger
- 21:22generations are closed out of easy stock market profits and of homeownership at all.
- 21:27Right, So now a lot of us are healthy. You know, we're
- 21:33going to live a really long time, and so these guys are you know,
- 21:36they're hoping to inherit pretty well. But we're not going to die.
- 21:40You know, Boomers are just sto going to kill over and let those guys
- 21:44inherit all this stuff that we accumulated. We're gonna keep it for a really
- 21:48long time. So, you know Gen X millennials, they they've got a
- 21:52difficult twenty or thirty years ahead of them watching us enjoy our retirements while they
- 22:00can't even buy a starter house. Um. So politically, um, they're
- 22:06gonna lean towards massive cuts and Social Security and Medicare, but they're not going
- 22:11to be able to get it through because we're still such a politically powerful generation
- 22:15that we will protect our benefits. So um, you know we're gonna We're
- 22:19gonna go to the grave as a completely self interested generation. They've dominated the
- 22:26world for the from you know, beginning to end. It's historians will not
- 22:30be kind to Baby boomers. Right. So we got some big court rulings.
- 22:34But the first one is in Supreme Court. It's a federal District court
- 22:38judge in Louisiana who've banned a number of government officials from contacting social media with
- 22:48the intent of a suppressing speech. Now it doesn't apply to crime. FBI
- 22:53can still talk to them if there's somebody's committing a crime, it doesn't apply
- 22:59toal security. But I think the fruxt of it is they're trying to get
- 23:04the government out of the disinformation determination business. Basically the Secretary of State can't
- 23:11contact them, Homeland Security cannot contact them, whole list of government officials.
- 23:18I mean, this could really be a major victory for the people. Huh.
- 23:23Oh, this is huge. It has the authoritarian left absolutely treaked out.
- 23:30There are some details that have to be understood with this which make it,
- 23:33you know, less likely to stick, but also way more interesting.
- 23:37But this was a couple of Republican states going to court in the court of
- 23:48a Trump nominated judge. Okay, and see he came out and said what
- 23:52you just said? He said, yeah, yeah, you can't the FBI
- 23:55can't get involved with private character of companies telling them to censor people who are
- 24:00saying, oh, I don't think kids should be vaccinated, or you know,
- 24:03having basic difference of opinion with government policy. So it's possible that because
- 24:08of the people involved right now, that this gets overturned on appeal. But
- 24:15it's also possible that the appeals go all the way to the Supreme Court who
- 24:19will be really sympathetic to this idea. So it could be that this goes
- 24:22back and forth for a year and some the Supreme Court who just locks it
- 24:27down, you know, who makes it the law of the land wherever,
- 24:30and that that would be I think it would be very cool, you know,
- 24:33if if we ratified the First Amendment by making it, you know,
- 24:40explicitly unconstitutional for governments to get involved in public speech, which that's the way
- 24:47it always should have been. You know, it was only lately that these
- 24:49novel concept Yeah. Yeah, and if we lock that down, then then
- 24:56you will have to say that Trump was an incredibly consequential president, right because
- 25:03it's basically his judicial system and making all this happens. Yeah, you know,
- 25:07he he is locking or well, if this goes all the way to
- 25:11the Supreme Court and is upheld by the Supreme Court, Trump will have locked
- 25:17down some very important freedoms for a generation, if not more. In fact,
- 25:22we are going to put a link to the decision. I'm getting it
- 25:26off a politico, but it doesn't matter, you know. My personal opinion
- 25:32is that this is pretty much bulletproof. He issued it on July fourth,
- 25:38of his ear which is like, all right, I just don't see any
- 25:45court having the cahonies to overturn this. Maybe they'll dump it on a procedural
- 25:52basis. So it's only a seven page decision. I encourage all of you
- 25:59out there to read it. I just think it's bulletproof. I don't think
- 26:04doesn't mean they won't find a way around it, okay, because hey,
- 26:11that's what lawyers do. But and hey, what about the fact that the
- 26:15New York Times has outraged over this that the government can no longer control disinformation
- 26:22or what they determined to be disinformation. You know, one man's propaganda is
- 26:26another man's truth. John, this could be the most important case from the
- 26:33courts. I mean, there's a few of them out there, but the
- 26:37courts have basically failed us during the pandemic. They failed us. You know,
- 26:45in so many instances the court has failed us. Will this be the
- 26:48one example where they actually come through and protect the constitution and what the country
- 26:55stands for. I think that going again, this decision going to be very
- 27:02very difficult, no matter who nominated you as judge. That's going to be
- 27:07fun to watch when when the appeal layouts in like a DC court or something
- 27:12like that so much some very liberal set of judges have to hear it and
- 27:18they have to publicly agonize over what to do about it. That's going to
- 27:22be fun, you know, And knowing that the Supreme Court is there as
- 27:26a backstop makes it something we can just enjoy instead of worrying about. Because
- 27:33even if the liberal court of the liberal appeals court decides to overturn that decision,
- 27:41there's still another step. It still goes to the Supreme Court. So
- 27:45so we'll see. But yeah, I think I think there's a lot of
- 27:47theater that's going to be fun to watch between here and the end of this
- 27:52process. You know, it might be a couple of years really before of
- 27:56where this is completely settled. How do you justify how do you justify it?
- 28:00Though as the government free speech blah blah blah, you know, how
- 28:07do you justify censorship? You know, I don't think there is a justification
- 28:12for it, especially when the censorship is so inconsistent where it's really aimed at
- 28:21one aspect of the political spectrum. You know, it's generally people on the
- 28:26right who are getting censored. People on the left can say and do whatever
- 28:30they please. Maybe this is all a result of Musk's takeover of Twitter.
- 28:37The meantime, we had three other big rulings there. One an affirmative action
- 28:42where basically the court said, you can't use it to consider who goes who's
- 28:48admitted to a college, web design bakeries, compelled speech where they can't be
- 28:56forced to do work, or gays or any other people that they don't agree
- 29:03with, especially on religious grounds. Seems to be some merit there. And
- 29:08then finally student debt, where the court pretty much said, it's a great
- 29:15idea, but the President does not possess the powers to forgive or to basically
- 29:22declare a college debt jubilee for a portion of college debtors, or as we
- 29:30like to think of them, John A's college student loan debt slaves, right,
- 29:36So it's kind of like we could be going to a civil war over
- 29:40this. Could be like the dread Scott case of student loan debt, which
- 29:45causes the young overindebted up to their eyeballs. Students with student loan debt dropouts
- 29:53whatever, it's mainly dropouts, so have the problem people who actually complete their
- 29:57degree most of them are. But maybe it'll cause a rebellion among college you
- 30:04know, student loan debtors. All right, that goes back to the baby
- 30:07boomer thing. You know, we got through college when it was super cheap,
- 30:11right, and to the extent we took on loans at all, the
- 30:15stock market went up so much that we paid those loans off with no trouble.
- 30:18And so we're free, most of us. But the generations that followed
- 30:23have you know, two hundred and twenty seven thousand dollars to get a second
- 30:27tier law degree, stuff like that that they'll never get out from under.
- 30:32And our student loans, the loans where you can't even declare bankruptcy or get
- 30:36up. Yeah, okay, so in bankruptcy you literally can never get out
- 30:41from under them. Hotel California, Yeah yeah, the ivy like but she
- 30:47could never leave. So anyhow, that's a very big that that actually that
- 30:52that court case was a separation of powers. Bright whether Congress makes a law
- 31:00that spends money on something, what the presidents allowed to come back and say,
- 31:03oh, no, okay, we're just going to cancel that whole you
- 31:07know, the spending program and everything, and it serves out he can't.
- 31:10According to the Supreme Court, Congress has to manage a spending program, which
- 31:15is what the student loan plan is. The other one that's really interesting was
- 31:21about a web designer who didn't want to make a website for a gay wedding
- 31:25or something like that, which that's been a debate that's been going on for
- 31:27a long time, like if you're a bakery, do you do you have
- 31:30to make cakes for people who your religion says you shouldn't participate with and everything,
- 31:38And then that's always been a fascinating argument because both sides kind of have
- 31:44a point, right, But in this case, they made it a freedom
- 31:48of speech issue, where by participating in you know, by making a wedding
- 31:55cake or by setting up a website or something like that, you're you're participating
- 32:00in public speech and you're being compelled to speak in a way that you disagree
- 32:07with. And that's what the Supreme Courts had was that you cannot compel speech
- 32:10in this way. So so, okay, it sounds like that settles all
- 32:15those different cases out there that have been pending for a long time, I
- 32:22think, and I think so. And we've got a link to the decision.
- 32:25This one's directly the Supreme Court, so you can read it there long,
- 32:30long winding road. Like the Beatles said, I mean this is this
- 32:36is one of those ones that the lawyers will fight over for years. But
- 32:42the concept is Congress has power of the purse and it's up to them to,
- 32:49you know, to basically pull the plug on student loan debt. But
- 32:52you know what it's going to happen. We talked about basically debt. JU
- 32:57believes they're having one in China now. Millions and millions of people have stopped
- 33:02paying their mortgage payments because they were paying mortgages on hollow shells and buildings that
- 33:09would never be built because the developer abandoned them. The money all got stolen.
- 33:15They took the deposits. That's a little lightning and thunder going on it
- 33:20in Florida here for a change, they took they took all the money and
- 33:23they used it to finance other projects, payoff CCP officials, and now there's
- 33:30no money left to finish them and the buyers are left holding the bag.
- 33:35Point is, it's not just a unique situation here in the US, it's
- 33:38a global situation. John. The only thing that's gonna be able to treat
- 33:45the problem here, to save the patient is a complete debt jubilee. Believe
- 33:51that for the past, since I got in, since I started doing these
- 33:55podcasts, I think that's what it's going to be now. Well, Kirie
- 33:59in flay is a form of debt jubilee in that it makes your debt,
- 34:02you know, five percent or ten percent less onerous every year, so in
- 34:07the same way that it's a tax increase, right, So that's a secret
- 34:10way to do this stuff. You just inflate away the currency. A full
- 34:16on debt jubilee would run into a lot of the same problems as a you
- 34:22know, student loan forgiveness or something like that, because you would need an
- 34:28actual law that passes Congress and the Senate and is signed by the President.
- 34:34So you need all those different groups going along with it. And that's a
- 34:38pretty hard sell, as we see right as we are, it's a it's
- 34:44a very hard sell. But in the end, there is no solution other
- 34:49solution because as you've said, and I've said many times on the show,
- 34:53the debt is unsustainable. The increase in the rate of debt is unsustainable.
- 34:59And now with interest rates going up, the ability to service the debt it's
- 35:04becoming harder by the day. Arry, you know, you know what there
- 35:07apparently is something that they can do, which is stimmy checks. They did
- 35:12that already and got away with it. What are Congress. Yeah, well,
- 35:17and but giving constituents free money is something that kind of sells pretty well,
- 35:25at least in stressful times. So it's possible that you pass something like
- 35:29that, only make the check bigger. Make it fifty thousand dollars stimmy check
- 35:32for everybody. Of course, you destroy your currency, but you get reelected.
- 35:38Well, fifty thousand dollars stimmy check if you don't have any student loan
- 35:43debt, and keep it. If you do, you got to use that
- 35:46check to pay down your student loan debt. Any halfway measure, it's just
- 35:52not going to work. You know, there's going to be an ah home
- 35:55aha moment where everyone on the planet realizes can't pay it back and we're gonna
- 36:04have to start. This goes back to the Bible. You know, every
- 36:07seven years a mini jubilee, in every forty nine years, a major debt
- 36:14jubilee. I don't see any other way, but hey, we'll see to
- 36:17what they come up with the Biden administration to try to counteract this the meantime,
- 36:22I think I'm going to lose my power here. We're having a massive
- 36:25thunderstorm. Maybe we'll get a tornado. Who knows. Make sure you go
- 36:30over to John's substack. It's Robino dot substack dot com. We're always at
- 36:37Financial Survival Network dot com. Leave your comments below please, and John we'll
- 36:43catch up with you in a couple of weeks. All right, Cheris,
- 36:45see you go run around in the rain a little bit. That sounds like
- 36:47fun. Thanks for listening to carry Lens's Financial Survival Network, your solution to
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