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EP4 - The Lukewarm Church Is Producing Weak Men · GET ER DONE Podcast

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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to another episode of the Get Or Done Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is where I try to get people to reach their full potential spiritually, physically, in business or financially.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today's topic is something I really get fired up about.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's something that I want to be a solution to, and it's something worth having a conversation about.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so right now, the American Church has a discipleship problem.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've made it too easy to call yourself a Christian and too comfortable to stay one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Easy believism, no pipeline, no accountability, no deployment.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just show up on Sunday, feel good, go home.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're producing exactly what you'd expect, exactly what the devil wants.
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  SPEAKER_00: Men with no foundation, no conviction, and no idea what they actually believe.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm pretty fired up to talk about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's get into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's hop into the first part that's caused all of this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So there's I call I refer to it all the time as the fried chicken gospel.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm writing a book called The Fried Chicken Gospel about this very thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's this lukewarm fried chicken gospel that's preached in churches all across America.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would say majority of Protestant churches you walk into, there's going to be a prayer at the end, and if you pray that prayer, you go to heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this idea that if you just believe Jesus is real and say a prayer for him to come and build a tree house in your heart, you're gonna go to heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: This idea that this that's being put out there, it's putting people in a really bad position with no real biblical foundation.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no verse in the Bible that says you can pray a prayer and get saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's uh um nothing about um if you just believe, you go to heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the verses that do say if you believe, and I'll get into that later, but the verses that do talk about that, you have to understand the context of the word belief.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so there's this just idea out there, and this is general culture in America, where you walk into a church, listen to a sermon, pray that prayer if you haven't already, you believe Jesus is real, and then you go on with your life and you go home and live the same life that you do every single day.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is a very uh this is a cultural thing within America, and it's all stemmed from the fried chicken gospel or the lukewarm gospel.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so let's hop into the lukewarm gospel, the fried chicken gospel.
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  SPEAKER_00: The actual term for it uh in uh biblical scholar colleges and schools of thought is easy believism.
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  SPEAKER_00: So easy believism is a thought that if you just believe Jesus exists, you go into you get to go into heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um or if you just accept Jesus into your heart, let him build a treehouse inside of you, and uh you pray, you you just copy the prayer that the pastor says you go to heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see you smiling back there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gary's behind the camera smiling.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um we're leaving this in.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um and listen, I understand there's a lot of people that say, Oh, Briston, you come off too aggressive, too harsh, but those are the same people that have never led anybody to Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I am gonna be aggressive and harsh about this in a biblical sense, uh, because it's absolutely ridiculous that we have men leading men falsely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh and this is something that I'm righteously aggressive about and righteously harsh about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus flipped tables, God gets angry, and so if I say something that's blunt but truth, it's not out of oh, that you're this mean guy telling people you're going to hell.
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  SPEAKER_00: No.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm doing it because I'm sharing it because I believe that if I don't share it and if I don't do something about it, it'll continue to go on and it's gonna hurt people.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm gonna flip tables.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus flipped some tables, so on this podcast, I'm flipping some tables.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so let's hop into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, we kind of hopped into or talked about what most churches um do for salvation.
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  SPEAKER_00: The prayer, the believe Jesus exists.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember I was at a uh concert one time, a Christian concert, and there was this guy, um, I forgot his name, he's this Christian pop artist.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was on stage, and he was like, if you just believe Jesus is real in your heart and confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, you will be saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people hear that and they're like, Oh, Jesus is Lord.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, I believe Jesus is real, he's Lord, and then they go on with their lives with no change.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's there's absolute context that needs to be provided with that scripture, and that's very much reading scripture with the base level of knowledge of like just reading it for the words that are on top of the page, but not actually looking into the what the meaning is behind the words.
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  SPEAKER_00: When you look into the actual context of the word believe, and you dig down into it's really to make something in control over your life, and to confess that Jesus is Lord is not a word that you say or words that you say out loud, to confess that Jesus is Lord is to actually make him physically Lord in your life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when he said that, there was no scripture scriptural context, and it's so easy to hear that and be like, oh, I just need to believe that he exists.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like that's genuinely what I believed growing up my whole life, that if I just believed Jesus was real, I'm going to heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: I genuinely believe that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like it was a belief that you had when you were a kid when you believed Santa was real.
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  SPEAKER_00: Believing in Jesus is not believing like you believed in Santa Claus.
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  SPEAKER_00: Believing in Jesus is for him to physically and spiritually come in and take complete control over your life, and there's a literal change, it's not this thought, and you go on with your life doing everything that you want to do, it's a change in you, and we're gonna get into this pretty soon.
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  SPEAKER_00: But to actually follow Jesus is a change in you, a change in your life, and it's real, it's physical, but it's also spiritual.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I guess since this is a podcast where I do talk about business and I am an entrepreneur, this is very similar.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um imagine you you're hiring somebody to come work for you, and when you hire them, you hand them a name tag, and you never train them.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is what most churches do to believers.
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  SPEAKER_00: Most churches to believers welcome people in, hand them a member badge, but they're never trained.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what that causes is people to just like come into like if I did that, think about that.
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  SPEAKER_00: If I hired somebody, gave them a name badge, but never trained them, what they're just gonna come and sit.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's literally what people in churches do.
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  SPEAKER_00: They come in, get the member badge, and they come and sit.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't do anything, and it's like that is so unscriptural.
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  SPEAKER_00: Look at the book of Acts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody was involved.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everyone.
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  SPEAKER_00: Even lame people with secular jobs were involved, and it was their entire lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: People sold everything, people sold all the land, all their houses.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, they sold everything and gave it to the church, and everyone's life was impacted.
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  SPEAKER_00: And today it's like I have my life, I have Jesus on the side, but Jesus, you can't touch my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's very much the American thought today.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the question if you're really in that position, imagine everything that you have right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you have nothing right now, it's very easy to say, Jesus, you can have everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: But let's say you're listening to this and you do have stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's say you've worked really hard, you own a house, you you own a vehicle, you own property, whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: If Jesus asks you to sol sell it all today and give to the poor, would you?
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  SPEAKER_00: And if you're hesitant, I understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: But if you're not willing to do that, to give everything up, give it to the poor and follow Jesus and go preach the gospel, then you're not truly following Jesus, you're not truly following Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's a scary thing to do, but it requires a lot of faith.
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  SPEAKER_00: But that's a true mark of a Christian, is if they're willing to give everything up their entire life, everything they know, follow Jesus and leave it all behind.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if you're willing to do that, you have the true mark of a Christian.
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  SPEAKER_00: Alright, let's talk about the current church structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of inefficiencies within the current church structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, God uses it.
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  SPEAKER_00: But right now, the current standard American church culture is that you show up on Sunday, you listen to the sermon, you go home, maybe you open a door, maybe um you serve one other day of the week for another event, maybe you hand out some food, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: But there's no real ministry going on in your life outside of the four walls.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the standard in American church.
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  SPEAKER_00: The it's a standard of you show up, you get to live your life outside the church the way you always do.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's no inconveniences in your regular life, and you get to show up to church, listen to a really good TED talk.
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  SPEAKER_00: Maybe open a door for somebody to get your volunteer brownie points with the church staff, and then you go home.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is the majority.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's actually interesting because Paul says, Don't be hearers of the word, be doers of the word.
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  SPEAKER_00: Paul's the an apostle that wrote majority of the Bible, if you don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the guy that wrote majority, or really the New Testament, not the entire Bible, but the guy who wrote the majority of the New Testament said, Don't be only hearers of the word, but be doers of the word.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's there's so many Christians that come into the American church, and because there's no fixed pipeline structure within the church, they're left kind of on their own.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if someone wants to do ministry, it almost feels like they have to go start their own church or start their own ministry or go outside the church to accomplish their task of ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it shouldn't be that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: All churches should have something within their structure where everyone that comes to the church, everyone that's a quote unquote church member can come out of the come out of the church with the church and do ministry outside of the four walls.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna hop into this here pretty soon.
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  SPEAKER_00: But and another thing churches will do is sometimes churches will get together their a few people from the church and just send them out to another country or something like that, or send them out to another party of the United States, but even then there's limiting factors.
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  SPEAKER_00: And essentially, ministry has been gatekeeped in America for the past 50 years, probably, within the American church history, and ministry should not be gatekeeped, ministry should be accessible for everyone, and there should be a pipeline that everyone can enter where then they can then do ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And with that, there's gonna come a an attack on ministers who have so much of an ego tied to their ministry to where they want to be the ones to preach.
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  SPEAKER_00: They want to be in control over everything, they want to be the one leading ministry and doing ministry and having control over all parts of the ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to really hurt the people that that have that.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so church, church should feel less like a lecture and more like a training camp.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think about boot camp military, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: It's three months of training.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Christians should go through something similar.
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  SPEAKER_00: They should go through a boot camp.
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  SPEAKER_00: They should go through, and that boot camp is called discipleship, but let's be honest, even then, that's not even really structured within the American church currently.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it feels like to me, and this is just for the general majority American church, but it just feels like to me, nobody's being equipped, nobody's being trained, ministry's being gatekeeped, and there's not a lot of opportunity for someone to go do ministry unless maybe they go start their own thing or they people please throughout a church to get into some sort of high-ranking position to then do ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it shouldn't be that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I also shouldn't have to go start my own thing or join another thing outside of my church to do ministry, and I also should be able to do ministry that's more than just opening a door, and so with that being said, let's talk about a real discipleship pipeline.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is my solution that was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: For the longest, I had this burden on me of there's a real problem here, but I don't know what the solution is.
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  SPEAKER_00: About a year ago, out of nowhere, I woke up one day and the Holy Spirit um inspired me with a solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've told several people about it, and a lot of people think it's a phenomenal idea, and they've never heard of it before, which is crazy to think about.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this is my solution to the discipleship problem, and it's going to challenge a lot of very religious church leaders to do this, but this is my solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to have to go start a church and implement the solution to be a solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would love to come alongside currently founded churches and them implement this as a solution.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um but let's hop into what the solution is, and it's not anything new.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's been around for thousands of years.
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  SPEAKER_00: We've just gotten away from it in our current state of Christian churches here in America.
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  SPEAKER_00: So this is what the real discipleship pipeline looks like.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a solution inspired by the Holy Spirit, inspired by the book of Acts, and through historically accurate churches that followed scripture on this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the immediate solution is step one a new believer enters a structure of discipleship pipeline, and it's not optional but expected.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so, as soon as someone either believes in Christ or comes to this church, it doesn't matter what their background is, everyone should go through this discipleship pipeline, even if they've been in ministry for 20 years, because I've seen pastors who have been preaching for 20 years get saved after them realizing they have to be born again because they missed that in the foundation when they were first preached to.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so everyone, as soon as they come into this church, yes, you can keep your Sunday lectures.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are great.
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  SPEAKER_00: God uses those.
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  SPEAKER_00: Keep them.
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  SPEAKER_00: All right, after the Sunday lectures, add this discipleship program, this pipeline that I'm talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: But expect, have an expectation for everyone within the church to go through this pipeline so then they can be deployed and do ministry.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is an expectation for everybody in the church.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is not, oh, just come to a church and listen on Sundays.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like, no, you're expected to come to church and then be involved in ministry, like a real church.
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  SPEAKER_00: So step one is essentially um, or I guess step one would be implementing the the class pipeline into this church structure.
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  SPEAKER_00: Within the classes, you would almost structure them like college classes, but you would only have a few of them.
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  SPEAKER_00: And basically, class one right off the right off the rip should be the foundation of salvation, which also includes the concept of being born again and living a life set free from sin.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the first we we should not assume that somebody is saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is dangerous.
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  SPEAKER_00: Assuming somebody that is saved that is going straight to hell is extremely dangerous.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the very first class should be a challenge of if they're really saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yes, lean into challenging if people are saved, do it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and goes over the concept of salvation and being saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: Going back to the fried chicken gospel, the lukewarm gospel, this is where this gets deconstructed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is where a lot of churches may have a problem with this whole pipeline idea that I have, uh, because there's probably going to be some disagreements on the idea of actually being saved and getting into heaven.
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  SPEAKER_00: But let's hop into it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Salvation.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is being saved?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, we know that when the angel comes to Mary, when Jesus is being born, the angel says to Mary, You're gonna bore a son who's gonna save his people from their sins.
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  SPEAKER_00: The angel did not come to Mary and say, You're gonna bore a son so he can die for everyone's sins and they can be forgiven.
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  SPEAKER_00: The angel said, You're gonna bore the Son of Man who's going to set his people free from their sins.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus came to set us free from our sin.
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  SPEAKER_00: He came to set us free from our sin.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not so that way he could die and we could be forgiven, do whatever we want.
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  SPEAKER_00: This key concept of being set free from sin is vital to salvation.
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  SPEAKER_00: How does one become set free from sin?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, John 3 5 through 6, Jesus says to the Pharisee, you must be born again to inherit the kingdom of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Pharisee says, Do I go back into my mother's womb and then come back out?
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  SPEAKER_00: Jesus says, No, you must be born of water and spirit to inherit the kingdom of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was once talking to a guy who had an issue with the idea that I believed that, based on scripture, that you have to be baptized to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I read I I said, Go read, go, go read John 5 or John 3, 5 through 7, 8, 9, 6, whatever it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: I said, Go read it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it says right there, you must be born of water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when he read that, he was like, Oh my gosh, is this really in the Bible?
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  SPEAKER_00: I didn't believe it was in the Bible when I first read it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I would always check old Bibles, like Bibles from the 1800s.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would always flip to John 3, 5 through 6 because I was like, Did this get added?
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the it says right here, you have to be born of water and spirit to enter the kingdom of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: Water, spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are the two main baptisms in the New Testament?
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  SPEAKER_00: Baptism of water, Jesus was baptized in water, and the baptism of the spirit, Jesus was baptized in the spirit after he came out of the water, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: And there's multiple verses in the Bible that literally say you must be baptized to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: It says it word for word.
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  SPEAKER_00: It says you must be baptized.
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  SPEAKER_00: The Greek word of submit submersion in water to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: And again, you can't just hop in some water, hop out, and live your life normal, and boom, you're saved, and live your life like you always have.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, you must not only be baptized in physical water, but also have the true expression in the heart of what that truly means.
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  SPEAKER_00: When people say uh baptism is a representation of an inward change, that's very true.
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  SPEAKER_00: And in Catholicism, they baptize babies at birth because they do believe you have to be baptized to be saved.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the issue with that is when you baptize a baby, it doesn't represent what it's meant to represent of you dying to your old self and becoming a new creation in Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because babies can't make the conscience effort to repent of their sins and turn away from their old wicked wicked lives and become a new person in Christ.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so Catholics got the baptism part right, but they didn't look at the inward part.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's very common tradition within Catholic Catholicism, is they're very big on the outside things, but the in the inward sides, the inward part of transformation change is missing.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you go to your far um the far side of it of really a lot of denominate non-denominational churches where they believe so much on the inside change of it that they discount the actual physical baptism as being a requirement of salvation, even though the Bible says it, which is insane.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's both.
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  SPEAKER_00: You have to be physically baptized and inwardly baptized, and that's why Jesus says water and spirit waters the physical spirits, the inside, the spiritual side of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm just gonna keep it where he said you must be baptized in water and spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: What does that do?
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  SPEAKER_00: Getting baptized in in water and spirit is basically a representation that you are dying to your old self, just like how Christ died on the cross and was buried.
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  SPEAKER_00: You at some point in your life have to die to yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: And bury the old you.
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  SPEAKER_00: The way you bury the old self is through baptism of water.
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  SPEAKER_00: You are physically and spiritually dying to your old self.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you are underwater, that is the same representation of you being in the tomb, or Christ being in the tomb for three days.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then when you come out of the water, that's the same representation of when Christ came out of the tomb three days later.
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  SPEAKER_00: And Jesus said, You must be born again to enter the kingdom of God.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the only way to be born again is through water and spirit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And because Paul and Jesus himself, Jesus himself said you must be baptized to be saved, by the way, and Paul the Apostle wrote about it several times.
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  SPEAKER_00: He talks about how baptism, Paul the Apostle, talks about how baptism saves us, just as the floodwaters of Noah's time save the world and cleanse the world, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: You look at the uh Israelites being led out of Egypt and the water washing out behind them as they walk into the promised land and them being a new nation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anyways, so this all needs to be explained in the first class of this discipleship pipeline.
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  SPEAKER_00: But the issue is so many religious leaders and theological thoughts, thought leaders are gonna disagree so much with what the I just said, which is what the Bible says, that they're too prideful to even give it thought.
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  SPEAKER_00: And because they're too prideful to even give it thought, they'll immediately discount everything else I'm gonna say, which is fine.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this is why I might have to start my own thing, because most places are gonna disagree with what I just said about salvation.
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  SPEAKER_00: Brother, what about the thief on the cross?
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: Brother, the thief on the cross was under the old covenant.
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  SPEAKER_00: The new covenant didn't happen until Jesus died and resurrected.
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  SPEAKER_00: How are you supposed to die with Christ and resurrect with Christ when Jesus hadn't even died yet?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: The lamb of the Lamb of God was slain for the forgiveness of the criminal sin on the cross.
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  SPEAKER_00: He was under the old covenant.
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  SPEAKER_00: He had the ultimate sacrifice.
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  SPEAKER_00: In the old covenant, in order to be forgiven of your sins, you had to go slay a sheep or a lamb that's perfect without blemish.
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  SPEAKER_00: This thief on the cross was still under the old covenant law with God, and the ultimate lamb without blemish, Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, died right next to him for his sins.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: So yes, he didn't have to be baptized because he was under the old covenant.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_00: But the moment Jesus resurrected, the new covenant began.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_00: And we know this because in the temple, the day Jesus died, the temple, uh, there's a crack, a separation in the temple representing the breaking of the old covenant.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_00: Paul talks about this.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't understand what Paul's talking about when he talks about old law and the new covenant, this is what he's talking about.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so use the thief on the cross all you want.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: That dude was under the old covenant, and he had the perfect lamb of God covering his sins.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yes, he was able to enter the kingdom of God because he had the ultimate lamb right next to him and a heart of repentance.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: So, anyways, that's the number one like debater right there.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_00: And people are like, what about the Bible verse that says you must uh you must confess with your mouth or or just believe Jesus is real and you go to heaven?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: What about those Bible verses?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: What about John 3.16?
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's not the Bible, the Bible is not this or that, it's this and that.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: The Bible says you must believe, but also says you must be baptized.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's not a this or, it's this and.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_00: Salvation.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Born again, being baptized.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Garrett's cracking up back here.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even put a mic on you, man.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um, anyways, collie.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: We need to do a video where I sit down with a pastor that believes otherwise and talk about this.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: That's class number one.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Class number two.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: The elementary principles of Christ.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: If you're reading the book of Hebrews, it talks about the elementary principles.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: And speaking of, I'm actually gonna go ahead and just pull them up real quick while we're here.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and we'll talk about it for real quick.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_00: But the elementary principles of the faith is talked about in the book of Hebrews.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: And what's crazy is the Bible talks a lot about the different stages of which someone learns stuff about the faith.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's really interesting because Paul links, he links um how you shouldn't give a baby meat when they need milk, and you also don't need to give people milk that need meat.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_00: So let me tie all this together and show you how cool this is.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: So when you're born again, right?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Step one, like we talked about, when you're born again, when you come out of that water and you receive that baptism of the Holy Spirit, you are a one-day-old baby.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: You need milk.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: And part of that milk is class one that we just talked about, the foundation of salvation, the concept of being born again, that is part of your milk.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: As you get a little older and you get to be a toddler, you start to go into elementary school.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: And the writer of Hebrews says that these are the elementary principles of Christ.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: So after you understand the concept of salvation and born again and understand that, you then enter the elementary principles of Christ, which is this.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_00: The book of Hebrews says these are the elementary principles of the Christian faith.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: And what's crazy is we have people who have been Christians for 20 years and they don't even know what the elementary principles of the Christian faith are.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is like someone who knows how to do multiplication but doesn't know how to do addition.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: They went straight to fifth grade but never even learned the basics in second grade.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is the big mess that's within the church.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Let's go and talk about the elementary principles.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: So, if you want to read it for yourself, go for it.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's in the book of Hebrews.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: But the elementary principles is number one, repentance from dead works, which pretty much covers uh salvation and born again, because when you're born again and you accept Christ as Lord and you truly follow him and give up your old life and follow him with a new life, you are turning away from dead works, aka sin.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: So turning away from sin, following Christ, that's pretty much covered in uh the foundation.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: All right, faith towards God.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, really how to trust God in this new walk with Christ that you're about to experience, because you're about to experience the craziest things ever in your life, and you must trust God.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: And so, this is when you can then teach within this class, you know, the stories within the Bible where people had to just they had ultra reliance on God in the most uncertain situations.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Look at Abraham and his son when he went to go sacrifice him on the mountain.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Look at Moses, look at uh look, look at um all the areas in the Bible where people were faced with the most crazy things in their life and they had nothing but God to rely on.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_00: So faith towards God is a is a principle that will be covered and needs to be covered.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: Check this out.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: This is an elementary principle, too.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Instructions about baptism.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Hebrews says an elementary principle is instructions about baptisms, um, understanding the meaning of water baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: What's cool is some of these are already covered in class one within the pipeline of the basics of salvation.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Number four, this is crazy because you don't see a lot of this in the church, laying on of hands.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: The laying on of hands is an elementary principle.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_00: You see it in the book of Acts a lot, when people are establishing spiritual gifts, apostleship, eldership, there's a laying on of hands.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this is also something that you see with blessings, healing, commissioning.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: When they would send people out, they would lay hands.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: When they would pray for someone to be healed, they would lay hands.
• 31:01
  SPEAKER_00: When they would pray blessings over people, they would lay hands.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is an elementary principle of Christ.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: Check this out.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: This is an elementary principle.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: Resurrection of the dead.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_00: Resurrection of the dead, physical rising people from the dead, and spiritual rising people from the dead.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_00: When you become born again, you are raised from the dead because when you're walking this earth prior to being born again, you are dead, but when you are born again, you are now alive, and so resurrection of the dead, and there's a lot of miracles where people have literally raised other people from the dead in the name of Jesus.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: Dead people, no breath in them, no pulse, raised from the dead in the name of Jesus.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's a real thing, and all of the Baptists just got upset.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um just kidding.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: That was a joke, kinda.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um I know a lot of Baptists uh Baptists thinking do not believe in spiritual gifts being today.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, all right, last thing.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, this is one of the last elementary principles is eternal judgment.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: Eternal judgment's an elementary principle, the final days of life here on earth, the final days when God comes and judges the earth, the great throne, the great white throne judgment.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Basically, a lot of book of Revelation type stuff, that is an elementary principle.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: So I would cover most of that in a couple classes.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you could maybe cover that in class too, but that's the pipeline there.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so after uh the Christian is taught the foundation, the elementary principles, there can also be many more teachings added in there that are essential.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I think in reality, a lot of people on their own time can learn about the things of Christ by just reading the Bible, reading Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, reading the writings of Paul the Apostle.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so that can be accomplished.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but those are the kind of the two or three main classes I would do as elementary principles and the foundation.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_00: After that, you then, after people complete the course, yes, they need to read their Bible.
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's super important because they need to understand and read about things in the Bible and discuss those things, right?
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_00: And they can do that, but then they are plugged into a team of people doing active ministry.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so this is when people are plugged in into what they feel that God is calling them to, and also what their spiritual gifts are, whatever that may be.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: So if someone is like, I am the hands and feet of Jesus, like put me in a serving position where I'm feeding the homeless and I'm helping people.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that person's gonna go on a team with people that also have the same spiritual gifting or the same um the same calling from God, and they're gonna do that all together with each other connected to the church.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, if someone's an evangelist, they will join a team of evangelists that then go out once, twice, three times a month, whatever it is, and they'll go evangelize and preach the gospel.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: If you have people that have a uh a calling of being a pastor, you put them with a group of team of pastors who pastor, right?
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of pastoring is counseling, so you're gonna be doing a lot of that.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if someone has a gift of teaching, you're gonna put them in a team that teaches, and then this can be the team that teaches the pipeline, by the way.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: But also, this is people you can have teach on a Sunday during a lesson or just teach in general.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's a lot of different callings and spiritual gifts that God gives us, and so basically you just plug people in to that gift.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Administrative gifts, you put someone in an administrative team.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if they're really good at like them on social media, put them on a social media team.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_00: But like you plug them in internally and then they work together with people with a similar calling, and then then they are now living ministry, they're now a living organism participating with the church, not just showing up on Sundays and listening.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: So, this is my discipleship pipeline, and this is very similar to business.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: When you hire somebody, you onboard them, you teach them the foundation, the things of the business that are super important, and then you then put them on a team with the vision, and you have them all accomplish whatever the goal is as a team, and they do it together, right?
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: This time, in this new process, you're no longer handing somebody a name badge and then them just showing up and staring at you every day.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: Now, you hand them a name badge, they learn everything, and then they're actually doing stuff.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so um most churches stop at equip and never get to work.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_00: What I mean by that is most churches will equip, they'll equip people with the knowledge, they'll equip people with the the things of God, but there's no follow-up, there's no work, there's no works being done, little to none.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so this helps fill that in.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_00: So, what does a lukewarm gospel, the fried chicken gospel, produce?
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_00: It produces a lot of men and women, but a lot of men with theological foundation issues.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: If you know you build a house on top of a foundation with issues, the whole house is gonna have an issue.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's gonna be a lot of problems, right?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so they go off of what feels right and not what that Bible actually teaches.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: I've met so many people, oh you know, I I ain't perfect, but I know God forgives me.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, brother.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_00: The Bible says strive for perfection.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: You must repent and and turn and live a life of good works.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_00: Not, and I love explaining this to people because I I always like to explain it that you're not trying to do good things when you come to Christ.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: When you truly come to Christ, you're not a person who's trying to do good things.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: When you truly come to Christ and receive the Holy Spirit, you then become a person that doesn't want to do the bad things.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: And if you mess up, there's forgiveness, and your heart shows that you don't want to do that and you didn't want to do that, and there's forgiveness and grace there.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: And so you go from a person who in the world, prior to truly following Christ, where you're like, Oh, I'm gonna try to do better, I'm gonna try to do good things.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: When you become truly born again and truly follow Christ and receive the Holy Spirit, you become a person that says, I don't want to do the bad things.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: And uh a religious perspective is do the good things and try to do better.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: The born again perspective is I don't want to do the bad stuff, I want to be closer to God.
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: And because I don't want to do the bad stuff, I naturally, through the Holy Spirit, repent of my sins and turn away from those.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm set free from those, by the way.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_00: When you receive the Holy Spirit and you're born again, you're then saved from your sin, so you're no longer bound by it.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: That's a whole other thing.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna go into that, but just know the Bible talks a lot about this.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: When you receive the Holy Spirit and you're born again, you're no longer a slave to your sin, meaning you can walk away from them now.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: Before you're born again, you are a slave to your sin, and if you try to walk away from it, you can't because you don't have the Holy Spirit in you.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_00: The only way to walk away from sin is to be born again and have the Holy Spirit inside of you.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: So um going back to what this fried chicken gospel produces, it also produces hypocrites, a whole lot of hypocrites.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of the hypocrites you see in the church today are because they were established within the church with a um very easy to get destroyed foundation, basically.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like the foundation just got wrecked by the devil um because it wasn't a good strong foundation, and so you get a lot of hypocrites, you get a lot of unbiblical action, and so for for me, the easiest way for me to spot somebody who's and this might this might get some flack, but the easiest way for me to spot somebody who's not truly born again is if they've gone to church for a very long time, they say they're a Christian for a very long time, and there's a reason I say long time, and I'll talk about that.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: But the easiest way for me to catch someone who's not really a Christian is when I talk to them or meet them, as long as there's not a pastor around, they start cussing.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: The Bible says, have don't let any unclean words come off your lips.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: Paul writes about that.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: And like I immediately, when I received the Holy Spirit from my experience, I immediately got convicted about cussing because it's unclean words.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: So the easiest way for me to spot a person who's religiously a Christian but not truly born-again Christian is that.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_00: But I will say there's a caveat.
• 40:43
  SPEAKER_00: If someone is a new Christian and they just don't know yet, or the Lord is working with them on it, then I then I know, okay, like this person's a legit Christian.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is just they're just a new Christian, or or this is something the Lord's working on them with about.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: And that might get a lot of flack.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know a lot of people who are really good people, um, in in man's eye, and they're cussing, but they love Christ, and it's like you grow like a child grows out of their immaturities.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's like when you're a Christian, you grow out of that, and like if you've been a Christian for 20 years and you're still cussing like a sailor, I have a feeling there's not a lot of conviction going on there, so there might not be a lot of much activity from the Holy Spirit going on there.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, people are like, oh, cussing is like whatever, but I mean, if you're truly trying to be like Christ, you're not gonna let any unclean words come off your lips, like Paul talks about.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: The Bible says it'll be judged by every idle word.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're judged by every idle word, I don't think you're gonna be saying mother F this, F that, you know what I mean?
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: Mother F for this.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you're not gonna be saying those things if you're truly trying to be like Christ.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: And another mark is like if people are genuinely trying to be more Christ-like and like they want to be more like Christ, that's a very good mark of the Holy Spirit.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_00: But like when I meet somebody who's been a Christian for 10 years and they're like, Yeah, F and this, and I'm like, bro, what is that garbage coming off your lips?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_00: What kind of light are you being?
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's darkness coming off your lips.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: There's no light.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: I might get a lot of flack for that, but it's very easy for me to spot that between a person who's truly flying Christ and not, or that maybe they're just a new Christian.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: There's God gives a lot of a lot of grace, so much grace when you're a new Christian.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like when I was first came to Christ, I messed up a lot.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_00: God like definitely molded me and and uh cut a lot of stuff out of my life, but it took time, and there's a lot of grace behind that, and I understand that.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: But if you've been like a Christian for 10 years and you're still using filthy language, it's like I don't think you're trying to be more Christ-like, to be honest.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're honest with yourself and willing to humble yourself and agree with that, you can then make change.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: But a lot of people will be so prideful about that, they're like, that's not true, you know.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: So if you want to be prideful and not be conformed or changed or convicted and allow the Holy Spirit to come in and change your life, if you if you want to be prideful and resist that, that's fine.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, another thing the lukewarm gospel, the fried chicken gospel produces is weak marriages.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, when people believe this fried chicken gospel, most of the time they believe that they can just do whatever they want and they're forgiven because they got their ticket to heaven, they got their eternity insurance.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so a lot of people, because there is no fear of God in their life, because there is no conviction of sin, because they're not truly set free from it, because they just think they're got their golden ticket to heaven already, because of all of that, a lot of people will continue to.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: Watch porn in their marriages.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people will get divorces not for reasons outside of sexual morality, like Jesus says, but just because they don't like each other anymore.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: So they'll get a divorce and then they'll go remarry.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_00: And Jesus says that's adultery.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: And because there's no fear of God, there's no conviction, there's little to no Holy Spirit, it produces weak marriages.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: And the Bible says if you look at a woman with lust, you commit adultery in your heart.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: So the moment I married my wife, I knew that if I did choose to ever watch porn, I would be cheating on her.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I could not bring myself to ever cheat on her.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so I haven't watched porn because of that.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm like, I don't want to cheat on my wife.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because I understand the fear of God and the Holy Spirit convicts me on that.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, there's no way I want to even cross that boundary.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: And another thing is, and this keeps a lot of people from messing up, to be quite honest, but like the Bible talks about how you have to confess, repent, and confess your sins.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_00: And like I've always been under the impression, like if I ever did do that, which I could never imagine myself to, but if I did, in order for me to truly be forgiven of that sin, I would have to confess that to my wife.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, that would suck.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: Because you have to confess your sins.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: You can't just internally repent and not tell anybody.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: You have to confess it.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: The confession's another big thing within the body of Christ.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so, like, I've always known like if I ever did choose to do that, not only would I cheat on her, if I ever watch porn, not only would I cheat on her, but I also would have to confess that to her to actually be forgiven of it.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to hurt her.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm not gonna do that.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_00: Number one, I don't want to cheat on her.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: I fear God.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_00: Number two, I also don't want to have to have that conversation.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm just not gonna do it.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's gonna do a lot of hardship down the road.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_00: And the hardship's not worth five minutes of pleasure and regret for years.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: So all right, moving on.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um another well, I'm gonna just gonna read this.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Your life is the counter-argument.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: Discipline and faith bleeds into disciple or discipline and running bleeds into discipline and building.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's all connected.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: So if uh if you're able to be disciplined in the faith, it's very likely you're able to be disciplined physically and in business or whatever it is.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_00: And same for everything.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you're disciplined in running, you're able to be disciplined in faith and business and all the all the things.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: But if you're disciplined in one area, you're able to be disciplined in all the other areas.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um you're able to.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't mean you you might you might not want to be, but you can be.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Alright.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: So if I was starting a church, what would I do?
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I would immediately create a structured onboarding pipeline for every new new or known believer.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_00: Anybody who enters this new congregation would then go through this pipeline.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: We would do uh mandatory discipleship cohorts, not a class that you can just skip.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we would build teams around mission, not just fellowship.
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: And we would deploy everyone that that's in this church would have a role, a mission, something they're actually doing.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: And we would keep everyone accountable.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: Not legalism, but real brotherhood.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: We'd be able to keep everybody accountable.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: And so if I were to do it, that's what I would add.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I would love for other established churches to just go ahead and implement this.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I would love to build something that can then implement this, but I have a feeling we're gonna run into issues with religion, with theology, with puffed up, prideful pastors.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so we might have to start our own thing.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_00: We might have to start up our own ministry, our own church, because I have a feeling we're gonna run into so many issues with people who have believed the same thing for the past 40 years because it's what they were taught growing up or it's what the theology school taught, instead of looking into what just the actual Bible says.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm lucky enough that I was able to just read this Bible and not be connected to any denomination telling me how to think, but I could just read it and and take the words for what they say and absorb it that way without any preconceived notions.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: If you go into the Bible thinking, oh, there's no way you have to be baptized to be saved, because that's a work.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_00: If you go into it thinking that you're gonna frame all your thinking around this belief you've had your whole life, but if you go into it and you're like, I know nothing, and you and you go into this and then you look go into it with an open mind, then I think there can be a lot more agreement and unity.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so, um, and there's areas of the Bible that are so confusing, and there's things that are so gray.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what?
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_00: Those things aren't willing to split a church over, but we gotta get the foundational stuff right.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: So, all right, the challenge.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna call out through groups of people and challenge you.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a pastor playing it safe, preaching a gospel that offends nobody and changes no one, I'm gonna challenge you to preach the gospel that Jesus preached, preach the gospel that Paul preached, preach the gospel that the angel had shared with Mary, and I'm gonna challenge you to preach that Jesus came to save people from their sins so they can no longer live in bondage to them and then live and have eternal life, but with actual change and fruit and in the process of being born again, go down that rabbit hole.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a Christian sitting in the same pew for 10 years, who's never done anything with your faith, I want to challenge you today to start doing something with your faith.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a man who's called himself a Christian at an altar call or accepted or repeated a repeat after me prayer, what did you actually commit to?
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: Did you actually have a life change or did you just do what the pastor told you, not knowing what you really had to do?
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so the gospel is not easy.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: Grace is free, but discipleship is costly.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: Jesus didn't say come and be comfortable, Jesus said follow me and pick up your cross.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: So, the question is, are you willing to pick up a cross and follow Jesus and have an uncomfortable life?
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm willing to, and I'm willing to do anything for Christ.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: I would literally sell everything and move to China and preach the gospel if he called me to.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um implementing this into the world is probably gonna be very uncomfortable, but it's needed.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: So, with that being said, there's my rant.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's my big rant.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I feel like these first few episodes we've recorded are very much a big foundational piece of just introducing if you're interested, you know, some of my thoughts that I have, some of my experiences.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know what's gonna come of this.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: I know I'm gonna do something about it at some point, and I'm just kind of letting the Lord lead me on it.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't want to have to go start my own church.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a pastor, I'm just an evangelist, to be quite honest with you.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so I don't know what this is gonna look like, but it's gonna be implemented, and we're gonna do it at some point.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't know when.
• 51:54
  SPEAKER_00: God would tell me when.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, do I want to go and implement this?
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: No, be honest, I don't.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I don't feel like doing any of this at all.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I do get fired up about talking about it, but I don't uh fit my my flesh does not want to physically go out and create this and make this a thing.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll see what comes of it.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_00: We'll kind of track it up on the podcast, talk about some more of the stuff on the podcast.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: But that is the conclusion of this episode, and so if you're someone who wants to reach your full potential in your faith, or in business, or financially, or physically, then follow the podcast and we'll just get it done around here.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, I mean that's the only thing you can do is just put your head down and get to work, and it doesn't feel good to the flesh, but in the long haul, it is very, very much worth it.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, it's a lot.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about it more on this podcast, though, because this is gonna be implemented at some point.
• 53:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what it's gonna look like yet, but this is gonna be something one day, and um we'll get to talk about it.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, with that being said, I'm gonna go ahead and end this podcast.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_00: We'll see you guys on the next episode.