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Tarik Skubal's Dodgers debut, Luis Arráez shines in Phils debut, Welcome to The Show George Lombard Jr · Foul Territory

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Hey og crew today.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a lot of shows on the FT
• 0:06
  Speaker 2: Network right number thirty. It's hard to keep up with
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: all of them, but I do my best. And one
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: of my missions is I want to listen to every
• 0:15
  Speaker 2: single show on the FT Network post trade deadline, like
• 0:18
  Speaker 2: they're one show that recaps the trade deadline. First of all,
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: it's great content, it helps, but I also just want
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: to see where everyone is at from a show perspective
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: in terms of what they think their teams did and
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: didn't do. So I'm hitting like two to three per night.
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: Last night, one of the episodes I caught was our
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: buddy Derek from Pinstripe Territory. Yeah, he absolutely hated their deadline.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: He roasted and toasted them to pieces. And I'm telling
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  Speaker 2: you it's some of the most entertaining content. The way
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: that he was dropping lines like it was second nature.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: For example, I was writing one or two of them down.
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: He's like John Carlo Stanton's only visible to that kid.
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: In the sixth sense, Judge hasn't picked up a bet
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  Speaker 2: since bleeping Memorial Day. We end up getting this like
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: he was rolling it out like it was nothing though,
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  Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like oh, I'm very prepared.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: This is like he was rolling out movie references like
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: it was a sixth sense.
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  Speaker 2: It was good entertainment, comedy and frustration from him. I'm
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: not as frustrated as he is. I don't think they
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: had Like the way he was talking was like DF
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  Speaker 2: territory and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. They picked up offense.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: They have guys that are going to go to the bullpen.
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  Speaker 2: That'll make that stronger. The whole argument can be we
• 1:31
  Speaker 2: didn't get a catcher, fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, wells, but that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Like to me, many teams have a lot more to
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: complain about then we think our catcher can't hit, so
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: he's only a defensive catcher.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here here, well yeah whatever, But here's the thing.
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: They pinch it for him every chance they get. They
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  Speaker 3: pick it for him right away. Last night brought in
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  Speaker 3: the other guy because they always have ben Rice that
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: can catch in an emergency. Right, so they are carrying
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: three catchers without carrying three catchers, yep. The thing it
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: got me was if you watch Lombard's debut last night,
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  Speaker 3: as great as it was, and I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: crowds are it's almost the worst thing that could have
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  Speaker 3: happened to the kid because he made a really good
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  Speaker 3: play at short in the back end, they turned to
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  Speaker 3: he hit the home run. Right, they won two nothing?
• 2:16
  Speaker 3: Why is that bad? Because now every game they're gonna
• 2:18
  Speaker 3: expect him to hit a home run, make the greatest
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  Speaker 3: PLAYOFFLL Like, It's great for the kid and I love it,
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  Speaker 3: but for Yankee, right, am I wrong? Crowds like, now
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  Speaker 3: every Yankee fan every day is gonna be like George
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  Speaker 3: Bumbard's gonna hit one hundred and eighty home runs. He's
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: never gonna make an error. So as awesome as it was,
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  Speaker 3: there's also a chance.
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  Speaker 1: Are you saying good debuts are bad?
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  Speaker 3: Depends on where you are.
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, Mark says Boons that they had
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  Speaker 3: no plans use Rice behind the plate. I'm only saying
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  Speaker 3: in an emergency, In an emergency, if he get caught somehow,
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  Speaker 3: he could go back there for a couple innings. I'm
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  Speaker 3: not saying that they're gonna catch him and start right,
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  Speaker 3: but they could if they use him a Let's say
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  Speaker 3: they pinched it for Wells and then Sanchez they need
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  Speaker 3: to pinch run for it. They can slide Rice into
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  Speaker 3: a catcher for any or two. Well, he's good enough
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  Speaker 3: for that.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, the plan is at some point in the game
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  Speaker 2: they have a big ab they just throw the pinch
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  Speaker 2: hitter in and then Alex Sanchez is now the catcher
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: in case he gets hurt.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have an emergen exactly? Who can handle it?
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  Speaker 5: In Ben Rice and I disagree with a except that
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  Speaker 5: George Lombard, Yeah, congratulations, but he also got that monkey
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  Speaker 5: off is back in the sense of like you get
• 3:27
  Speaker 5: called up, you don't get that home run. But there's plenty.
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  Speaker 5: I've read so many different different guys. Marcus Tims, Tyler, Austin,
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  Speaker 5: Aaron Judge all hit home runs in their debuts for
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  Speaker 5: the Yankees. It's great, but I don't think the expectation
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  Speaker 5: is any higher because this is the same Yankee fan
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  Speaker 5: base that boot Aaron Judge after he won the MVP
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  Speaker 5: in the regular season. So the expectations always going to
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  Speaker 5: be high, especially when you play a premium position.
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  Speaker 3: True, and by the way, it was awesome that his
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  Speaker 3: dad was there. Now, what was really cool is his
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: brother hit a home run in his pro debut, and
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  Speaker 3: then he hit a home run in his big league
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  Speaker 3: debut and the parents had to choose, and the kid
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  Speaker 3: in a ball said no, parents, go to the big
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  Speaker 3: league debut and listen.
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  Speaker 6: A J.
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  Speaker 3: Hinch let him out of it, which was really cool
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  Speaker 3: because he's a coach. He's a huge the bench coach
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  Speaker 3: for the Tigers. But the thing is, the Tigers have
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  Speaker 3: said they're out of it. So A. J. Hinch is like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't need no stinking coaches. You can go to
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  Speaker 3: and fight in New York.
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  Speaker 1: From Seattle, what are they a game and a half back?
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  Speaker 1: So like that, they rocked him.
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  Speaker 2: Eate nothing with Troy Meltain's mountains really freaking.
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  Speaker 3: Scoobol Mice Melton and the way they're playing right nowut.
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  Speaker 2: There one and a half games now too late. Orioles
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  Speaker 2: and Tigers both sold one and a half games back.
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  Speaker 2: Mariners bought their two games back, Blue Jays sold their
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  Speaker 2: four games back. Rangers wanted to sell their one game
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  Speaker 2: soldot true. True, that's fair, that's fair. I stand corrected.
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  Speaker 2: They sold inbought Blue Jays might be better. They should
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  Speaker 2: be better now. They added to start, there's one who
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  Speaker 2: can be at the front of a rotation.
• 5:04
  Speaker 5: Soriano. Soriano first June and half of May. He was
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  Speaker 5: a SI Young candidate.
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  Speaker 1: And let's get to a Cy Young winner. Two timer.
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  Speaker 3: Charge out.
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  Speaker 2: Derek Scougle is a Dodger, makes his first start six innings,
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  Speaker 2: two earned runs, four hits to walk, six strikeouts. Cubs
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  Speaker 2: handed the Dodgers their fifth straight loss. Mike g who's
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: a big Cubs fan, always in the chat, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: better talk about PCA within this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: Cubs are bawling, Dodgers are not during one week of
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: their lives. But Schooble felt nervous as you would expect
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  Speaker 2: he should.
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  Speaker 3: It's his first time on their team and he's pitching
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  Speaker 3: in a place he's never pitched. And PCA right now
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  Speaker 3: I've said it and I've as the n L MVP
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  Speaker 3: for me just because the showy out is the pitching.
• 5:54
  Speaker 3: I mean his numbers, what he brings defensively as stolen bases,
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  Speaker 3: or I mean his energy right now is crazy. I
• 6:00
  Speaker 3: love watching that dude play though. He's so fun and
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: plus I love him. I love watching this whole skit
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  Speaker 3: where he said Babe Ruth didn't exist. It had them
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  Speaker 3: the crazy clothesy whears. He's just he's just fun to watch.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry as a baseball fan, isn't this
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  Speaker 3: what we want? Personality? Dudes at say crazy stuff sometimes
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  Speaker 3: and they play awesome yep. I mean he's he's fun.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: He's a heel when he needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: And for all the nerds out there who just vote
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  Speaker 2: based on war and you know who you are, seven
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  Speaker 2: point five fan grabs war for PCA, which is better
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  Speaker 2: than show. Hey o, tiny's combined pitching and hitting war
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  Speaker 2: in that same.
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  Speaker 1: Category because his defense is so good, so good.
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  Speaker 3: He does so many things everything, everything. The biggest thing
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  Speaker 3: for me, I know we're talking about aurocrats, but his
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  Speaker 3: plate discipline, the way it's changed overnight, like they when
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: we were talking on Saturday, all he said, all Craig
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  Speaker 3: Council said, Craig Counsel. You know, Craig, he doesn't give
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  Speaker 3: you a lot to go off of. He'll give you
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  Speaker 3: kind of like little little nibbles of little crumbs of
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  Speaker 3: stuff and you kind of have to take from it.
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  Speaker 3: But the one thing when someone asked him about PCA,
• 7:03
  Speaker 3: it might have been me. I said, hey, what happened
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  Speaker 3: after that? You know? The lady and him got into
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  Speaker 3: and at the White Sox Stadium. He's completely June first,
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: it's been like the best player in baseball. It's not
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: even close. And he said, uh, he moved closer to
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  Speaker 3: the plate. Ye, I'm like that's it. He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I move close to the plate and sets up the
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  Speaker 3: strike zone better for him. And he's like, oh yeah.
• 7:22
  Speaker 3: Ann Bragman talks to him all the time about swinging
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  Speaker 3: less because in the game I did on Saturday, there
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: were some pitches he normally would have gangster hacked out,
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  Speaker 3: and he took them and earned walks and earned better
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  Speaker 3: pitches to get you know, another a bat and this
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  Speaker 3: and that. So what he's done offensively has been one
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  Speaker 3: of the craziest things in season I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 5: He was already talented, everybody knew that. That's why he
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  Speaker 5: was in the MVP discussion last year. Then he kind
• 7:45
  Speaker 5: of fell off because he started swinging and missing, started
• 7:49
  Speaker 5: chasing out the zone. To be able to make that
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  Speaker 5: adjustment in like within a season, within half a season
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  Speaker 5: essentially since the end of last season until now, it
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  Speaker 5: is incredible. And you know what that one, it was
• 8:03
  Speaker 5: one of the It wasn't a go ahead RBI, but
• 8:05
  Speaker 5: it was one of the you know, push the legal
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  Speaker 5: a little far of three, one, four one. That base
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  Speaker 5: hit like that was quintessential PCA And so it means
• 8:16
  Speaker 5: that he's still swinging, he's just not chasing as much
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  Speaker 5: as an opportunity to go little al the zone with
• 8:22
  Speaker 5: a pitch that he could drive that run in. That's
• 8:25
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's I don't know if he's the MVP yet,
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  Speaker 5: but it is going to be a fun conversation the
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  Speaker 5: rest of the year because if he can continue this
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  Speaker 5: plate discipline, which I don't know how you change, that
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  Speaker 5: is incredible.
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  Speaker 8: Derek.
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  Speaker 2: Let's just start high level, getting on that mound, first
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  Speaker 2: start for this new team.
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  Speaker 3: What was that just like for you personally?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that's going to bed last night, you know, excited.
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  Speaker 8: It felt like, uh, you know, my major league debut,
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  Speaker 8: you know, and kind of saying type of vibe in
• 10:00
  Speaker 8: terms of, you know, the nerves running through.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that's all good stuff.
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  Speaker 5: Should be nervous.
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  Speaker 3: So the first time of the new team, you're gonna
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: be nervous. I'm sorry, I don't care who you are.
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  Speaker 3: Should be. It's a good nervous, though, it's not a
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  Speaker 3: it's not a like I'm scared out there nervous and
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: he pitched fine. He pitched fine. It wasn't I mean,
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: they couldn't hit. And by the way, the Cubs with
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: the moves they made, the Cubs are a team that
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: is going to be reckoned with in the postseason. It's
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: going to be They're gonna be a tough out in
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: the postseason. I'm sorry they are. The way they catch
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: the ball, yeah, the way they catch the ball. Their
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: offense is clicking up. And if they get any kind
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: of starting pitching, because we know Craig Counsel can mix
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: and match the bullpen the best of them, they're gonna
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: be a tough out in the postseason. I'm sorry. We
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: could see a Chicago World Series.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: What they've got guys coming back, arms missing that they're
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: going to come back Dodger style where it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is not the arm talent that you're going to
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: see in October. And the thing is, in October you
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: don't need to rely on your full bullpen. You shrink
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  Speaker 2: that down right.
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  Speaker 3: Will be worried about the Dodgers five losses in a row.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Did you see they lost Dalton Rushing now basically for
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: the year at the Towers musicition towards U see al
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  Speaker 2: slight tear shut down.
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  Speaker 5: From any years.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, there.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know if he's going to catch again this season,
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  Speaker 2: so he might just be a bench bat.
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: That's a big loss.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Big loss.
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  Speaker 5: Back Ben Rvid almost caught like three back to back
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  Speaker 5: no hitters. Uh, they're they're gonna be fine. Are we
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: worried about them? No? It sucks for Dalton Rushing. But
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: let's put it this way. Everybody has some type of
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: tear in your ucl, so good for them shut it down.
• 11:45
  Speaker 5: It doesn't that it doesn't get worse. But Terrek Scooble
• 11:50
  Speaker 5: being nervous. I was traded. I was part of fourteen
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  Speaker 5: different organizations, some of them three or four times. You
• 11:57
  Speaker 5: get nervous every time because you're like, man, this is exciting.
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  Speaker 5: It's like a new start. It's a new it's a
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  Speaker 5: new opportunity. If you don't get nervous, if you're not
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  Speaker 5: excited about it, I think it's time to go home.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to show the new org, the new teammates,
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  Speaker 2: the new fans.
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  Speaker 3: Also every game. I mean, I don't know about crawds.
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  Speaker 3: But I was always I don't want to say nervous,
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  Speaker 3: but I was excited. Every game. There's a there's always
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: a little bit, there's always a little bit of in
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  Speaker 3: your belly, right every game, every game, there was not
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  Speaker 3: a game that I played right. Actually, kind of at
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  Speaker 3: the end, when I knew I was kind of done,
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: it was like, Okay, this isn't not that I wasn't excited,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't the same that I was the year before,
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: the year before, the year before the year before. Right,
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: it was more of like, Okay, how am I going
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: to get through this game? Not physically but more it
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: was like, God, we suck and I suck, and how
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: am I going to get through these ninetings?
• 12:48
  Speaker 5: That's got it. That's gotta be tough. That's gotta be
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: tough if you're sucking. I mean, I was fortunate at
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: the end. And most guys when they're older, they're playing
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  Speaker 5: on good teams, so you're.
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  Speaker 3: Not like, how am I going to get this going?
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  Speaker 5: No, like the adrenaline of needing to wanting to win
• 13:04
  Speaker 5: the game and do really well can be classified as nerves,
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  Speaker 5: But I don't think it's nerves. I think it's just adrenaline,
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  Speaker 5: and the best players that harness it do the best
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: as their careers wind down or as they go to
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: new places.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: M Well, Dodger fans are pumped, and school is going
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  Speaker 2: against them and say everything's not.
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  Speaker 1: Fair, They're here for you. They will bite back.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: Casey Mai said the Tigers never approached him about a
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: contract extent before he was traded. That's Bob Nightingale tweeting
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  Speaker 2: it out. I'm not surprised. I mean he's been hurt
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  Speaker 2: for them up and down. I think Schooble was more
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  Speaker 2: of a priority. He was one one though he was
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  Speaker 2: one one. So as Adlee Rutchman, we saw some one
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  Speaker 2: ones moving.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, I don't know. I mean they don't seem
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: to want to extend anybody. The Tigers is right now, have.
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  Speaker 2: They extended any of the core besides McGonagall. Besides mcgon
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  Speaker 2: that's only one.
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  Speaker 5: Did they approach in twenty four about a four.
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  Speaker 1: Year and I think they were Scott Harris.
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  Speaker 3: Scott Harris said he approached him, and but I mean
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  Speaker 3: his Boris guy, he wasn't gonna do that.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing is, like he mentioned that, oh
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: he wants to go to free agency.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: Boris guy. The other side was saying we were worlds apart.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: They're offering him money that's way less than dudes out there,
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: and he's better than them. Okay, so I'm not talking
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: that one up to Trek Scooble wouldn't have resigned. I
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: think there was a world where he would have resigned.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: Don't you Our number was right because he really liked Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say let's say the market says he's worth four
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  Speaker 2: and the Tigers are throwing out two. I'm just putting
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: numbers out there. If they threw three thirty at him,
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: he would he's gonna go.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: That's that's where when teams say, oh, he tried, well,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: they tried by giving him an offer that wasn't even close,
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: and then they can tell her when they tried.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: That's like saying, oh, we tried for this starter in
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: the trade conversation because we threw a prospect package at
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: them that wasn't as good as some other team.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: That's not trying.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: It's the inside scoop of after senior insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: let's talk about these surplus sweep steaks. Your latest article
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: in The Athletic on the Red Sox versus the Orioles
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: in their approach give us more.
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: First of all, AJ, happy to talk to you again.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: I know I couldn't talk to you on Saturday and
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: that caused some.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: Friction, but we're good now. As for the Rushman trade,
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: to me, it was the most interesting of all.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Of them by a lot.
• 16:02
  Speaker 6: And as I wrote yesterday, it was the most interesting
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: because you had one team kind of regressing a little bit,
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: playing for the future.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: Obviously that's the Oriols.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Then you had the other team going forward in a
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: way that can be argued was irresponsible. Now, both these
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: teams had logic for what they did and reasons for
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: what they did. In the Oriols case, granted, they still
• 16:28
  Speaker 6: believe they can compete and they're only a game and
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: a half out in the wild Card, but they traded
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: three big pieces, not just Dadley Rushman, Taylor Ward and
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: Tyler Wells, who was emerged as a really good reliever.
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: So when you take three big pieces off your team,
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: you're going backwards. Now, the reason they did it in
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: the case of Rushman was because they felt the return
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: was so overwhelming.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: That it was worth it. Now, that's where you get
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: the surplus value.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: The surplus value that the Orioles received, and that means
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: the amount of projected production they will get over the
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: player's projected salary that is way beyond what Adley Rushman
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: will deliver for the Red Sox. That's great and for
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: the Oriols it probably in that sense was a good trade.
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: They hadn't signed Rushman, he was a free agent after
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: next year. Wasn't happening, Okay, and they're not that good
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: a team.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: We've seen that, But.
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: This is Michaelias kind of doing this again. They rebuilt
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: once they're not rebuilding again. This is not a rebuild.
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: He has made that point, and he is right. They
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: still have a lot of good players under contract, some
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: of them long term, but it is at least temporarily
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: a step back.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Ken. Yes, I get it. I get it from the
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Red Sox and I get it from the Orioles. But
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: we heard yesterday, or we heard the first day when
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: this deal went down, from certain people, this is the
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: greatest trade, worst trade ever in the history of baseball
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: for the Red Sox. And then we heard yesterday from
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: some other people. Some of these players aren't as good
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: as other people feel, so it's hard to really figure
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: out who is right here. What made the Red Sox
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: just want to do this badly? I mean, I know
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: they're really short on catching, but do they think Ade
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Retchman is the one piece that can get them to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: win the World Series?
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: Evidently they feel he's a big piece.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: AJ And you're right.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: This trade from their perspective is really interesting because the
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: players that they traded, three of their top six prospects
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: from a good system, two of them pitchers. These guys
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: conceivably could come back to haunt them. But we can
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: say that about prospects all the time. And the one
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: thing I liked about this from Craig Breslow's perspective is
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: we talk about prospects as if they cannot be traded.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: Everybody talks about this. That's ridiculous. Look at some of
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: the Red Sox, a big name that couldn't be touched,
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: who have not succeeded. Christian Campbell, Brian Beyo, you can
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: make the case with him too, Tristan Cassis, and of
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: course Marcelo Meyer who was traded to the Giants because
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: he essentially did not make it with the Red Sox.
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: Then the Yankees, Anthony Volpi, Jason Domingez just gets sent down.
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: We hear this all the time.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Not all of these guys become superstars.
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: If you're Craig Breslo and you've already traded Connolly early
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: by the way, for Curtis Mead, you evidently feel that
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: you can keep finding and developing pitching. It's kind of
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: like the Nationals with hitting right now, the Nationals feel
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: they can really develop hitters. Okay, so maybe you trade
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: a Curtis Mead, and maybe if you're Craig Breslo, you
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: trade Connolly early and then the two pitchers that went in.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: The Rushman trade.
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: Again, it's a really interesting way of going about it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: And in the bigger perspective from the Red Sox, let's
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: look at their whole season started off horribly. Breslo fires,
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: Alex Korra replaces in with Chad Tracy. For a while
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: it wasn't so great, and then they took off. They're
• 19:56
  Speaker 6: in this incredible run right now, and Breslo is looking
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: at this like, hey, we got a shot here in
• 20:01
  Speaker 6: a week league, let's go. And he felt like this
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: is what he said, that he wanted to honor his
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: players and what they've.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: Done and all of that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: You always hear that from executives this time of year,
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: but he has clearly put his stamp on this. And yeah,
• 20:15
  Speaker 6: there's risk here, and there's risk with Rushman too. That's
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: the thing that I think people are missing. Rushman is
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: a guy on a IL for the third time this season,
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: fifth time in the last two years. He's a guy
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: that is only under control, as I said, through next season.
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: Next season's in jeopardy, so as I wrote, we don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: even know how many games he's actually going to play
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: for the Red Sox.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: That too, was a risk.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: Was there a little bit of, hey, we can't let
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: Alie Rushman go to the Yankees because there was talk
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: that the Yankees were in on it. Obviously you're the
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: guy to sift through all this muddle of hearsay.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I would expect Eric that the Red Sox were quite
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: aware that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: The Yankees needed catching. And if you're the Red.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: Sox and you're sitting there and you're kind of looking
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: at the landscape, you know that there is a possibility
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: he could go to the Yankees, he could go to
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: the Rays. The Rays added a catcher at this deadline too,
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: Liam Hicks, So maybe that's part of it. And the
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: other thing that I didn't mention in my previous answer
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: was they have the ability, of course to sign him
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: long term, which would mitigate all the risk of the
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: short term not playing that many games, etc. But the
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: problem with that is this is the guy who's had
• 21:28
  Speaker 6: an inconsistent track record. He's been really good at times Rushman,
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: and not so good last year not so good. So
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: do you want to sign him to an extension? All
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: of these things are in the mix, including what you
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: asked about. I'm sure they were quite aware that, yes,
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: the Yankees were looking for a catcher, But I don't
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: know the teams operate in that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Sense as their main motivation.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: It's kind of in their heads maybe as it was
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: with the Dodgers in schoolbl knowing if you went to Milwaukee.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: It changes the equation, but it's not the primary driver.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, Ken, we've crushed this trade, the Rutchman Red Sox
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: from both sides, right, we've we've worn this trade out.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: I want to talk about the Braves. A lot of angry,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: angry Braves fans, right, they all have their tomahawks out,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: they're all coming after Alex Anthopolis. They tried for Jacob
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: de Gram. Jacob de Grom has the right to say no.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: They shot for some bigger fish and they ended up
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: with Maley and Lane Thomas and some you know and
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: nothing major. Do The Braves fans have a right to
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: be this angry at what Alex did after in twenty
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: one when he went out and got you know, Adam Duval,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Jack Peterson and Jorge Soilaire.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: Yes, no, and when they won the World Series that
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: was five years ago, and every year is different, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: certainly Alexanthopolis has had an amazing run as their president.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Of Baseball Operations.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: But and I've written about this at some length, They've
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: been looking since.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: The start of the off season for.
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: A playoff caliber starter, for a guy that could pair
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: with Sale and whoever else they had healthy and give
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: them a real chance in October to do something special.
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: They didn't find that guy in the offseason. They didn't
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: get that guy at the deadline. Now they have some
• 23:11
  Speaker 6: still interesting pieces. Grant Holmes pitched really well last night.
• 23:14
  Speaker 6: Smith's Shawfer's coming back. They may still be okay, but
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: sure I would have liked to have seen them get
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: one of the starters that got moved. And let's face it,
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: San Diego, a team that's not as good as the Braves,
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: a team that doesn't have a farm system as good
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: as the Braves. They landed Robbie Ray and Casey Myiz.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Now they paid for that. Aj Preller always pays for it,
• 23:37
  Speaker 6: then sometimes overpays. But that's a different mindset that they took.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I want to double down.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It sounded like the comments from Braves brass had to
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: do with Tyler Molly and backing up that they think
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: he's going to be better. Well, if you're backing that up,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: but then you were trying for Jacob to crom You
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: do have to give in a little bit and say, hey,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: we didn't come up with the other starter that we
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: were going for, and that was a big miss.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: That's on us.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I think Braves fans are number one pissed, but at
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: least we're looking for a little bit of Hey, we
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: couldn't make it happen. We failed, and it was more
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of a defensive mode in my mind from what I
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: was reading there versus Yes, what you're saying in aj
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: prelor Ken is what the lenks sometimes dunks on him about, Oh,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: there's going to be no more prospects. He's going to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: be so screwed dext years. I'm gonna be able to
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: trade for anyone. He just got two starters that can
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: pitch playoff games.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Eventually.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: The feeling in the industry is that the padres are
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: going to hit an iceberg, that their expensive contracts are
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: going to haunt them Machado and Bogarts as they get older,
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: and that they won't be able to sustain this.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I was writing that, I don't know three or.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Four years ago, wrote it pretty consistently consistently for a
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: while and eventually stopped writing.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: It because he keeps doing it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: He keeps putting a competitive team on the.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: Field and going for it. It's what he does.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: He has a unique way of replenishing his system. It's
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: never going to be great the way he trades players,
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: and he traded four pretty good ones in these two trades,
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: but you have to give him credit for that. And
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: the contracts are one thing. And Peter Sidler, the late
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: Peter Sidler, was really behind them. I'm not excusing Preller
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: and saying he's the greatest. They have, not one I know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: but his approach is one that has transformed that franchise.
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: It's made them from sleepy, small market team into this
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: dynamic force. They're not perfect, they're not even close to perfect,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: and they've had a rough year. But at the deadline
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: again he did what he could to try to win,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: and that was his quote yesterday.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: We want to win.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: Didn't trade Mason Miller, didn't trade more Home. They acquired
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: two starting pitchers. And if they get Musgrove and Paveda
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: back and Paveda had a setback he appeared yesterday, then
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: they might be formidable.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: You mean walking off the mountain after your second batter
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: straight to the dugout. Is that's probably a setback here.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Then he pitched in the ball.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: I was weird. I don't know. I don't I've never
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: seen a guy in the middle of a he throws
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: a pitch and he just walks straight to the bolt,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: right right to the dug out. Everyone. Maybe they thought
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: you're not fast go.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe he thought it was strike three but it was
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: only a second hitter.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know. To not fast go to not collecto
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: hundred dollars, goes straight to the dugout. Ken on this
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Preller thing. I think he's great because as a former player,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I want to try to win. Every year. Everyone says,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: these contracts are gonna catch them, these contracts are gonna
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: catch them, They're gonna catch him. But every year he
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: finds more prospects. Every year he finds more teams that
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: are willing to deal. Every year he gets rentals that
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: work out or don't work out. But the fans, they packed,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: They get forty two thousand every single night. Is this
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: It seems like there's two ways to do it right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: It's one where you prospect hor and you never give
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: up anyone. You just try to make the playoffs every year,
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: and you, oh, everyone's happy we make the playoffs every year,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: or be your a J. Preller and you say, you
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: know what, making the playoffs isn't good enough. I want
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: to win the first World Series. Is there a right
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: or wrong way to do it?
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: No, there are many ways to do it, honestly, And
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: we see this in the sport.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: It's kind of the beauty of the sport.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: For all the complaining about the teams that have no
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: chance what Milwaukee, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland do on a
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: regular basis, and there are a couple of others almost
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: in that realm as well. They compete like crazy, doing
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: it in a completely different way, of course than the
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: Dodgers and the Yankees, for example. In Preller's case, they're
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: almost an outlier because he operates a team that is
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: in a smaller market as if he's in a big market.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: And that is what makes them so unique. And listen
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: the contracts Machado and Bogarts. They are going to haunt
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: them eventually. These guys are signed into their late thirties.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: We've seen some slippage for both of those guys. Though
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: Machado's really hot right now. I get it, and it's
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: a fair point. But what are we talking about now?
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: This is really the fifth year, orse sixth year where
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: they've been really competitive, and people talk, oh, well, you
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: know these small market teams they can build up, but
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: they've got to go back at some point five six
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: years a pretty long time if you ask me.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Let's go to the Phillies and one of the Padres
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: old players, Luis a Rise. Their major pickup at the
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: trade deadline was this Don Browski sufficing his team and
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: his team captain leader and Bryce Harper that hey, we
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: need to get somebody, and Bryce said I'll go to
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: the outfield. Or was it just the only real piece
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: available that would fit kind of fit on this team?
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I said Rushman, that trade was the most interesting.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: This one is one A and it's one A because
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: of all of the machinations that had to happen to
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: get Luis a Rya as comfortable or accommodate him at
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: second base.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: You had to put Bryce and.
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: Started third, Alec Bowman first, and yes, Bryce Harper had
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: to go back to the outfield.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Harper had been.
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: Consistent and saying for a while that he would go
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: to the outfield if they got a first baseman. Turns
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: out they got a second baseman and then moved the
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: first a guy played at first base. But it speaks
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: well of him, it speaks well of Dombrowski to do this.
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: They saw the market for right hand and hitting outfielders
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: and didn't love it. Taylor Ward, Joe Adell. Maybe the
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: prices were too high for them and their estimation. I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: not sure, but the way this works for them is
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: that Arise becomes the one contact guy or the main
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: contact guy in their lineup. It's a slugging lineup, it's
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: not a contact lineup, so he really complements their player
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: as well. We'll see defensively how this works out. I've
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: heard the logic from Phillies people.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Well, defense can't be any worse. It's the worst in
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the league, so how bunch worse is.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: Are going to be okay, But it's still kind of
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: a stretch to all these things that are going on.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: I know they say Boem's played some first, he has,
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Stott's played some third in his past, and Bryce of
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: course has played the outfield, but Bryce is several years
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: removed from.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Playing the outfield.
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: He's an older guy now, not old, but older than
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: he was, obviously, and we'll see if that takes a
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: toll on him.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: All Right, it's been the last couple of minutes here
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: with two of the stars coming up on Saturday in
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the Guardians White Sox game that is on Fox and
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the Fox One app. We'll have more on the game
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: specifically Friday with Ken, but AJ won't be there Friday,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of course, he's got his day of rest on Friday.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken, Ken, here's the thing, Like you said, you know, listen,
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: I listened to you when you said, don't talk to me,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: don't worry. I didn't look at your little iPad. But
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: you're chatting away with whoever the heck you think you're
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: talking to. That's so important. Okay. I didn't even look
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: at your phone. I didn't look at you. I made
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: sure that I kept my eyes to the right. You
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: were on the left in the child seat. I was
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: on the right, in the adult seat, so I looked
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: over here. Okay. But here's what I'm mad about. One
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: you made me wait for like twenty minutes, so I
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: had all these all these cup fans coming up. Can
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I get a picture with you? And I'm like, where
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: is Ken? Where is Ken, Why is Ken not here?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Ken didn't even have to do anything after the game.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Why is Ken taking so long? And then this week, okay,
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: when we drive to the park on Saturday, I'm going
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: to respectfully ask you not to speak to me. I
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: have to give a speech on Saturday, so I'm gonna
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: have to manually prepare for like hours and days, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: you know it's been weighing on me for weeks, Ken,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: So please respectfully don't talk to me on Saturday.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: All right, that's fair.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: And actually, Aja, I am going to apologize publicly for
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: the fact that you had to wait because I was
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: locked in. I was actually writing something at that time,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: right by the trucks. I was outside, I had my
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: little iPad out writing and I didn't realize you were waiting,
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: And I told Jen, our operations person. Later, I said, Jane,
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: you should have just told me we got to go.
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: And I apologize for that. As for Saturday and this
• 31:41
  Speaker 6: great Churchillian speech that you're going to give, I cannot
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: wait to hear it. I cannot wait to see Ozzy
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: have his number retired, and it's just going to be
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: a great day. Now here's my question, because you mocked
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: me for this too. Are we going out Saturday night
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: to hear Adam dj?
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: He's not DJ and he's djay and Friday night that's
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: a little problematic DJing on a boat. He's DJing. And
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't go Saturday because you made me so late
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: that I did couldn't go.
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: No, No, that's not why you didn't go.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: You were tired.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Well that's true too.
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Wow.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: After read on Scott, Scott, after ripping me for not
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: being a good colleague and going out and listening to
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: DJ Adam Iman two nights before the deadline, he ripped
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: me for this, A j gets in the car with
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: me and said, hey, aren't you going to see Adam?
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: He doesn't na, Man, I'm not into it tonight.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: No, because I knew Scooba was gonna get traded, so
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: I had to get my rest for that night. That's why.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: That's right, his beauty wrest. Are you going this weekend.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Friday night on a boat?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But he's doing the game the next day?
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, he's got a speech to prepare, Scott.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I gotta get my beauty rest.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Right, He's got to sit meditate for three hours.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: Winsday Churchill Prasinski, yep, it's gonna be great.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait. It's gonna be It's gonna be great.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: All about me.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: It'll be on Fox and the Fox one app. Ken,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: we'll talk later this week. Thank you for entertaining us.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: See you guys.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Ken Rosenthal Ft Senior Insider and he'll be
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• 33:42
  Speaker 1: That should be fun.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: We're going to see that over the next week and change,
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• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Did you like that animation in your.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Well like change? I was like, whoa, it changed right before.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're in heaven now.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Am I picking a game I want to go see?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it doesn't have to be today. Like I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: just gave you the many Socks.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: I want to go see the Socks play the Socks, obviously,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and then I want to see this weekend Cleveland play
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: the Socks because that's a big series and someone will
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: be there can I'll be there on Saturday, so that'll
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: be fun. Bozzyk his number retired. And other than that,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you know, I.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Have one tonight Skeans against Kyle Harrison.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good one. That's a big one. That's
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: a big one. How well Skens do Because Skeen's been
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: very up and down this year, his Villo's down. There
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: is some concern about Skens is Velo.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: He keeps saying it's not a big deal and he
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: wants to go even to starts and all of that,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: or at least that's.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: But I remember facing Justin Verlander and he'd go ninety three,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: ninety four, and then the seventh inning in the base
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: of Lodore comes one hundred, So I mean, I mean
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: there was some dudes. Surezer would do that, Verlander would
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: do that, Grinky could do that. There were some guys
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: that you know, they started out eighty eight, ninety ninety one,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: ninety two, and then all of a sudden it was
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: ninety eight ninety nine and the seventh inning and you're like,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: whoa wait a minute, where was that? With two outs
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: and nobody on who is this closer? Yeah? Seriously, what change?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: It's just me justin I have won more Kratz.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Tonight, the last game of the evening or one of
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: the last games first pitch wise, is Casey Mayes and
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the Padres against Mitch Bratt and the We didn't do
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: much Diamondbacks.
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Man, I don't know how. I don't know how the
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: diamond Bass can sell that to the fans. That's what
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: I was going to ask you when you mentioned it before.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: Snake's Territories gotta be feeling like I don't know if
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: you've listened to their episode yet. That's tonight trade deadline.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: It can't be feeling real great. It can't be feeling
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: real great. It was very lackluster.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they usually do stuff Mike Casin's very active
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: whether they buy or sell.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Last year they sold all the parts.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: He didn't really have a lot. He still need a
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: first baseman for me. But that's a whole different story.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's gonna be to me. This is
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: one of the great things about the trade. That line.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: It's August fourth, fifth, and everyone's like, oh, our team
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: did this, our team to that. I just always look
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: back on our two thousand and five team and everyone's like, oh,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: they didn't do enough. The Indians at the time were
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: gonna catch him. We got Jem Blum. That was the
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: only move we made. We got Jeff Blum. You know
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: what Jeff Blum did. Hit a home run in the
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: World Series is only a patter of the World Series.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: He won a World Series game for us.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: That was it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: That was the only thing Jeff Blum is remembered for.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: But everyone at the time said, oh, we didn't do enough,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: we didn't do enough. Well, you never know, sometimes not
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: doing enough is the right move.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: You guys were damn good already. Yeah right, I wanted
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Louis Garcia Junior for the Diamondbacks.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean we wanted a lot of trades.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: It didn't happen, and guys went to other teams.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Said first base, that would have been one.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: There's just there's a lot of trades should have happened.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: They would have allowed him play every day. Who Garcia
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: is notnna play every day for the Yankees?
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. I don't know. But it's
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: gonna be interesting. The next month is gonna fascinating. Oh yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: especially in the American League when every team is like
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: so pinched together.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: There's a decent chance that one of the sellers makes
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: It was a Minnesota Twins style a couple of years ago,
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: where they they sold and they or actually they just
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: didn't do anything.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Tigers, Tigers, they sold Flaherty in twenty four and then
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: they went on their run. The Orioles could make the playoffs.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: They can make the playoffs. The Rangers could make the playoffs.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I'm missing at least one or two non buyers, non buyers,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: not believing.
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: That's a different that's a different category. Sellers are there
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: the mats. Non buyers are exactly what a J just said.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't wouldn't have been like they were.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: They sold hard, they sold hard. They could make the playoffs,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: they could.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: And a crying about it because the Whites not collapsed.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: If that happens, not necessarily, they can make it. They
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: can be a wildcard non necessarily.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Now I'm just saying, at.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: The wildcard look at the wildcard standings.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: It's laser close, laser tight. Hey can hook you up.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, fine, you can go see them though, and determine
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: that for yourself. Do your own scating reports at the games.
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• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Phillies picked up Luisa Rise and he had
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: quite the debut, had a great ovation, he had a
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: great over.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: First a bat, he got a hit. He was super excited.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Guys love him. That's why they trade for him.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: So cool.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: You can make two cases on trades. Sometimes you can
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: go why does this guy always get traded? And sometimes
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you can go why does this guy always get acquired?
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Because he can hit?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: And I think he's good energy.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: True, he's so happy every time I see him. He's
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: so happy to talk to him. He's so much fun,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: so fun.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: What's the vibe there, Kratz.
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: I mean the vibe is this is a Phillies fan
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: base that maybe the last fan base that maybe the
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Cardinals do that still looks at batting average. They're gonna
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: love Luisa Rise. Luisa Rise in a bad year, hits
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: three hundred. This Phillies fan base doesn't care who has
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: over eight hundred ops. They just care about wins and
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: who has the highest batting average. They're gonna love him.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: They're going to love him. They're gonna love his energy.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: They're gonna love the fact that like he actually shows
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: the emotion they're going to they're just and he's gonna
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: get hit. They don't care if he doesn't walk, they
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: don't care. He still what's weird is he's batting fourth.
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: He's batting fourth in a lineup with Bryce Harper, MVP,
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Kyle Schwarber, fifty plus homers like Trey Turner. I thinks
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: hit thirty something like of all the guys that you're like, Okay,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: where's he gonna hit? They had Schwarber leading off with
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Louisa Rise hitting forth. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: just saying I don't know. I don't know where else
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: he would hit.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: It doesn't bother him, though, how would you do the lineup?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: It doesn't bother. That's one thing about Rise. It doesn't bother.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: He's not like a guy that's gonna go up and say, gosh,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: i'm hitting fourth, I need to try to hit homers.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: He's gonna go up there and say, I do what
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I do. I'm gonna take my get to two strikes,
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: fall off ten and slash a single somewhere like that's awesome.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: That's something where, well, you're not gonna hit him lead
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: off right, because Schwarber has leadoff on Lockdown. You know
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: the way their lineup is constructed. He has to hit fourth,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: and that's fine. Doesn't bombers Bryce find and right.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: Funny, Shber's not always the Schwarber' is not always the
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: leader he was last night. And I think this is
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: more of their it's gonna be lefty righty because Trey
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Turner's been leading off. I just think you can't put
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: a rise. He's not a slug on the basis, you
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: can't put a rise in front of tray because prey
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: is gonna need to steal bases. But to me, I
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: think it'd be interesting if he hits fourth because he
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: puts the ball in play so much. Is it going
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: to be a ton of RBIs with the chance of
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: more groundball double plays? Like I I love it. I
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: think it's kind of outside the box, just like people
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: are so against Kyle Schwarber hitting first. Well, he only
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: hits first one time, you only hit fourth one time.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: Then it's just a matter of how the outs fall,
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: the innings fall, the batter's fall.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just still think it's funny.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I played a lot of baseball video games growing up,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and I can you know how I would play, like
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: say against a friend, and be like, all right, let's
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: set our lineups first, and then we'll go into the game.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: If I step my line like fifteen years ago, twenty
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: years ago off a rise cleanup and Schwarber leading off,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: they'd be like, you don't know ball? This is embarrassing. Yeah,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you'd get made fun of it school for it. I
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: don't think you can do that anymore.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: But's a change, Scott. You were a nice You were
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: a nice kid. Nobody make fun of you. But yeah,
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: things changed.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you can avoid getting made fun of for
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: not knowing ball, but yes, the industry has changed. It's
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: not necessarily the right way to do it, but it's
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: at least a way to do it that doesn't get
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: criticized anymore.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: That's the point.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Yes, and I think and I think a Rise technically
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: breaks up lefties depending on how they're going to do
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: the lineup. The reason I say that is because Arise
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: is fine against left handers. He's not elite, but he's
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: fine against left handers where you know, teams are going
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: to be okay bringing a lefty in, and the Phillies
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: are gonna be okay with a Rise being able to
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: face that lefty in the middle where they had Boom
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: trying to split those guys up, where they had Trey
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: sometimes trying to split those guys up.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Lazard is the one that stole the show, even though
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: who he surrives was getting all the level. And then
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: also you have Bryce Harper going to the outfields and
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: getting a chance right away. There was a lot happening
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. It kind of wakes you up a little bit.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Energy, gives you a listen. Anytime we've talked about this
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: many times. Anytime you get you acquire players, it really
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: does give you a shot of energy as a team.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: It does as a player. You're like, all right, let's go.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: We got new guys, We've got reinforcements. These guys are
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: coming in with energy. We can do this. And that's
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: what it looked like in Philly and Loazard has been
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: By the way he has.
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: I was working for the Phillies when Harper moved to
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: first base and he said some reason, standing at first base,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: his back started to tighten up more than when he
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: was in the outfield. It'll be interesting to see how
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: that transition for him back to the outfield goes. I mean,
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: those were his words, and he needs to learn that
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: be on his feet at a different position. We'll see
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: how this goes back in the outfield.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I like Bryce better in the outfield.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Wasn't what weren't They also worried about his uh, his arm.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Remember he had he had Tommy Jones order, didn't he Yeah,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: but it was a while ago. Yeah, that's why they
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: moved him first originally because you can get back on
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: the field paster, and they were worried about the wear
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: and tear on him. I mean, this is just for
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: this year. We'll be back in first next year. Bob's
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: a free agent. Arise a free agent.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Three months of Bryce Harper in the outfield, we're gonna live. Yeah,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: he's not.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he likes it. I think he likes
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: the whole. Hey, look, I'll take the glove and go
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: to the outfield if it gets us a piece. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: think it's a team like, yeah, likes our team's better now.
• 44:50
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