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Supreme Court Issues Final Rulings of the Term · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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Speaker 1: day at the Supreme Court. Three big decisions. I agree
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Speaker 1: with them all, by the way, I agree with them all.
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Speaker 1: Two authored by Justice Kavanaugh, one authored by Chief Justice Roberts.
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Speaker 1: I agree with them all. I was on Fox earlier
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Speaker 1: today Dana Perino asked for the concise view of what
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Speaker 1: was going on at the Court, and I answered, that's
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Speaker 1: cut number one.
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Speaker 2: And Hugh hewittt of course he's a has a huge
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Speaker 2: Hewitt show.
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Speaker 3: And if Fox News contributor with his reaction this morning,
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Speaker 3: good morning Hugh.
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Speaker 1: Good morning Dana. My reaction, that's my I'm not surprised
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Speaker 1: by any of these decisions. I would have agreed with
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Speaker 1: that we're I in the court with all three of them.
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Speaker 1: I think the Chief Justice has hit it out of
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Speaker 1: the park on the birthright citizenship issue and we finally
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Speaker 1: have a decision that lays to arrest this endless debate,
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Speaker 1: the tech's history and tradition. In fact, a firm if
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Speaker 1: you're born in the United States, you're a citizen. I
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Speaker 1: love Justice Kavanaugh's clarity on the Boys and Girls sports.
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Speaker 1: He simply says equal Protection clause allows states to do
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Speaker 1: what they want to do to protect women. And as
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Speaker 1: to the third case on campaign funding, Carl rob the Architect,
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Speaker 1: had it exactly right. It strengthens parties, it makes parties
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Speaker 1: much more vibrant, and so I think from my perspective,
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Speaker 1: it's three zero for the Constitution today. Now, I know
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Speaker 1: some people, as a matter of policy, as Professor Turley
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Speaker 1: just put out, would like to amend the Constitution to
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Speaker 1: change the citizenship to prevent against birthright citizenship. We can
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Speaker 1: pass a law to tighten up VISA. We can secure
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Speaker 1: the border like President Trump has done. But the Constitution
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Speaker 1: is pretty easy to understand. It was written by farmers
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Speaker 1: for farmers. I like to tell that to my con
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Speaker 1: law students every single year. There's nothing magic about this
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Speaker 1: if you just say, read the document, text, history, and tradition.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's a three to zero day for
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and they can go home and enjoy
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Speaker 1: their summer. Wow. And now I am being assailed online
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Speaker 1: because a lot of people feel very passionately about birthright
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Speaker 1: citizenship and alleged anchor babies and all the rest. That's
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Speaker 1: not the issue. The issues what's the fourteenth Amendment? Say?
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Speaker 1: What was the law before the Fourteenth Endment passed? What
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Speaker 1: was the laws interpreted in wonkim Ark? What has been
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Speaker 1: the unbroken president of the United States since it's founding.
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Speaker 1: It's an easy case. I'm sorry, it's always been an
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Speaker 1: easy case. A lot of people are passionate about it
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Speaker 1: because Joe Biden broke the border and there are birth
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Speaker 1: tourism scandals more than you want to know about, and
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Speaker 1: it's something that we ought to prosecute, something that we
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Speaker 1: ought to prevent to the extent of the law possible
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Speaker 1: via visa reform and via what the President has done,
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Speaker 1: which has closed the border and to port to port
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Speaker 1: deport people are here illegally. But if you're born in
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Speaker 1: the country, you're a United States citizen. It is that simple.
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Speaker 1: It's always been that simple. And I understand by the
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Speaker 1: way Justice Alito is concerned that a number of children
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Speaker 1: born to illegal aliens in the United States who become
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Speaker 1: a United States citizens may not grow up loving the
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Speaker 1: United States. They may not even grow up in the
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Speaker 1: United States. That is a problem. It's a real problem.
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Speaker 1: We have to be aware of that. We have to
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Speaker 1: be willing to act against those people. We have to
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Speaker 1: have provide for the common defense and conduct ourselves with
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Speaker 1: due concern for national security. But it doesn't change the
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Speaker 1: text of the Constitution. If you want to change the
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Speaker 1: text of the Constitution, amend it. Let's go to Jonathan Turley,
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Speaker 1: Professor Turley on Fox News Cut number eight on the
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Speaker 1: birthright decision. It is a roaring.
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Speaker 4: Decision in favor of birthright citizenship is contained within the
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Speaker 4: fourteenth Amendment. That is, despite the countervailing evidence of some
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Speaker 4: of the drafters of that amendment that they did not
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Speaker 4: want this to be something would cover birthright citizenship. Now,
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Speaker 4: having said that, there are very good arguments on both
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Speaker 4: sides here, good faith arguments, and I'm just reading through
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Speaker 4: the Roberts decision today, but it is a very comprehensive
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Speaker 4: and good faith argument. What is left here is a
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Speaker 4: decision for the country as to whether it wants to
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Speaker 4: examine a constitutional amendment. Some countries that have had birthright
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Speaker 4: citizenship got rid of it because many of us believe
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Speaker 4: it's an incredibly ill considered policy.
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Speaker 1: That might be the case. I'm not weighing in on
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Speaker 1: the policy. I'd have to look at the amendment. I
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Speaker 1: think constitutional amendments are very different. You need two thirds
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Speaker 1: of both houses to pass it in three quarters of
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Speaker 1: the state to ratify it for it to enter into effect,
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Speaker 1: very very difficult to do. Is birthright citizenship such a question?
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Speaker 1: People can certainly bring it forward. Speaker Mike Johnson gave
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Speaker 1: a press conference after the decision today cut number nine.
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Speaker 5: I think anybody who looks at this, oh dear, well, uh,
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Speaker 5: I need to read the opinion. Okay, but obviously that's
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Speaker 5: I mean, you could say that's a textualist, originalist view. However,
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Speaker 5: I do think that this has been grossly abused in
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Speaker 5: recent years, okay, And that is the case that was
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Speaker 5: being made by the plaintiffs in the case. And we're
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Speaker 5: very sympathetic to that because it is a serious problem
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Speaker 5: we have. We have you know, uh, it's become a tourism,
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Speaker 5: birthing tourism they call it, you know, a trend where
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Speaker 5: people will just come and you just come on to
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Speaker 5: the soil and have your child, and then they're they're
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Speaker 5: able to avail themselves of the welfare state and everything else.
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Speaker 5: It's it's been abused. It's one of those things that
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Speaker 5: was intended to serve a noble, important purpose and has
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Speaker 5: been thwarted and and overused and abused. And so I'm
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Speaker 5: sure that will continue to look at that. I mean,
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Speaker 5: I'm sure the conclusion from this opinion is going to
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Speaker 5: be that you've got to have a you got to amend.
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Speaker 1: The constitution to fix that.
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Speaker 5: As we all know, it's a big challenge to amend
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Speaker 5: the Constitution. It's only happened twenty seven times in our
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Speaker 5: whole nation's history. And the reason is because you've got
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Speaker 5: to have two thirds of the both chambers of Congress
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Speaker 5: and three fourths of the states to ratify. It's usually
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Speaker 5: at least a many years long process and very complicated.
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Speaker 1: We'll see.
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Speaker 5: I'm sure there's gonna be lots of discussion about that.
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Speaker 5: I will say I'm very disappointed in that outcome. I
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Speaker 5: think it subjects the country to serious challenges going forward,
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Speaker 5: and we'll have to deal with it as.
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Speaker 1: A Congress okay, So my question to the speaker and
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Speaker 1: to all the credits of the decision who are worried
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Speaker 1: about birth tourism. How many children a year are born
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Speaker 1: to birth tourist parents. They're not in the United States
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Speaker 1: as citizens. There here is tourists. They get birth to
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Speaker 1: a baby, and that child of the United States citizen.
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Speaker 1: How many of them are there? Do you have any idea?
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Speaker 1: There is an estimate, pretty good estimate made by the
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Speaker 1: United States Census. Do you know what it is. I
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Speaker 1: can tell you that there are three and a half
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Speaker 1: million children born in the United States every year. So
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Speaker 1: that's your baseline. Of those three and a half million children,
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Speaker 1: how many are born to parents who are on a
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Speaker 1: tourist visa? Twenty six thousand? All right, so we're talking
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Speaker 1: about twenty six thousand children in a year. Not a
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Speaker 1: good thing, by the way, especially if someone comes here
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Speaker 1: with the intent of having a baby for the purposes
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Speaker 1: of them assisting in their future immigration. We can pass
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Speaker 1: a law, by the way, that denies any immigration preference
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Speaker 1: to the parents of a citizen in the United States.
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Speaker 1: We can do that. We can pass a statue, or
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Speaker 1: we can pass an amendment to say they're not if
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Speaker 1: you're here on a tourist visa, you're not a citizen.
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Speaker 1: We could do that, but it's not a giant problem.
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Speaker 1: It's twenty six thousand people here, and of those twenty
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Speaker 1: six thousand, how many grow up to be what Justice
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Speaker 1: Solito talked about national security threats in his descent. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I really don't know any I think the
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Speaker 1: reason people come here, and I know that a lot
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Speaker 1: of mainland Chinese come here and do this by a lot,
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Speaker 1: I mean less than twenty six thousand, but not more
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Speaker 1: than that. Let's say hap thirteen thousand a year. What
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Speaker 1: are thirteen thousand baby's going to do in eighteen years?
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Speaker 1: Do you think they're going to come back? Do you
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Speaker 1: know that over the Biden open border we had fifty
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Speaker 1: thousand Chinese national military age come across the border, which
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Speaker 1: is the greater problem. The fifty thousand Chinese nationals of
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Speaker 1: military age who came across it not that easy to
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Speaker 1: get out of China, by the way, not that easy.
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Speaker 1: Who walked up and across the border during the Biden years.
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Speaker 1: Do we worry about the border? Which I've been an
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Speaker 1: advocate for what we're doing right now, big strong, double
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Speaker 1: sided fence or a wall since two thousand and four,
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Speaker 1: wrote book after a book about it. I'm a border
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Speaker 1: hawk and a regularization do and that's what I am
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Speaker 1: and I've always been. It's just not that significant of
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Speaker 1: a problem. What is an important issue is how one
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Speaker 1: interprets the Constitution. I want it interpreted the way that
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Speaker 1: Breck Kavanaugh did. In the Boys and Girls Sports. There's
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Speaker 1: this enormous long descent by Justice Jackson. It's incoherent. It
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Speaker 1: really is mishmash. It's just dumb. I would argue unreadable,
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Speaker 1: except I read it. It's not coherent. What Justice Kavanaugh did.
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Speaker 1: What six justices agreed is that the Equal Protection Clause
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Speaker 1: of the United States does not forbid states from legislating
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Speaker 1: that biological boys may not play in girls sports. That
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Speaker 1: is up to the states, just like Dobbs said, it's
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Speaker 1: up to the states to decide abortion law. That's our system.
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Speaker 1: The third decision today, by the way, and I'll talk
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Speaker 1: about all three with Matt Cotton in eight hour three.
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Speaker 1: The third decision today simply reaffirms the First Amendment. Money
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Speaker 1: is speech, speeches money. If you give money to a
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Speaker 1: political party, you want to give that party the best
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Speaker 1: ability to win because you're a Republican or a Democrat,
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Speaker 1: or a or a Progressive party or a communist, and
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Speaker 1: the Court held it's up to the party to spend
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Speaker 1: that money, and we can't limit the coordination that they
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Speaker 1: make with the candidate. Good first Amendment one. Today, court
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Speaker 1: has earned its vacation and there have been no retirements
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Speaker 1: NPR notwithstanding that announced wrongly that Justice Alito had announced today.
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Speaker 1: Bad on you, NPR. A good thing. You don't have
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Speaker 1: our money anymore. Stay tuned on Visue Welcome back in America.
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Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett. That music means I'm joined by David
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Speaker 1: Drucker of The Dispatch. David, I'm glad you're here because
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Speaker 1: we got to cover the most important story of the day,
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Speaker 1: the one that nobody else was talking about on talk
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Speaker 1: radio and on cable news. That is, Lebron James is
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Speaker 1: not staying with the Lakers. Are you shocked?
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Speaker 6: I'm not shocked, and I'm kind of relieved because you know,
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Speaker 6: this team as it was constituted with Lugadoncik and Austin
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Speaker 6: Reeves and Lebron, as great as he is, was not
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Speaker 6: going to beat San Antonio or Oklahoma City and contend
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Speaker 6: for a title, maybe for a Western Conference title. He
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Speaker 6: was going to contend, but it wasn't going to get
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Speaker 6: past them. And this opens up a bunch of caps face,
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Speaker 6: a bunch of money. And now let's see if Rob
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Speaker 6: Polenka can find a really good big man to pair
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Speaker 6: with the two other stars that the Lakers have, in
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Speaker 6: particular Luca who's the future of the franchise.
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Speaker 1: You see, David is the only Lakers fan I allow
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Speaker 1: on the program because I hate the Lakers, but he's
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Speaker 1: allowed to come on and state matter of Lebron. Nice
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Speaker 1: to have had you around. Next question, should he go
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Speaker 1: back to Cleveland for the veteran minimum?
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I always like Field good stories like that.
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's a homegrown Cleveland kid. He brought them
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Speaker 6: what their first title as a franchise. Only time I
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Speaker 6: thought he played, and I thought he played by the
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Speaker 6: way though I thought his second stint in Cleveland, I
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Speaker 6: thought he played the best basketball of his career. Absolutely,
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Speaker 6: particularly that particularly that year when he won the title,
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Speaker 6: when Cleveland won the title and it was him and
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Speaker 6: Kyrie Irving. I mean, I you know, I know, Look,
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Speaker 6: Michael Jordan obviously, and then so many great players, Bird
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Speaker 6: and Magic that particular series, he willed his team to victory,
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Speaker 6: and look, I got no love loss for Cleveland other
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Speaker 6: than the football team, but the way he willed his
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Speaker 6: team to victory against Golden State, against a golden State
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Speaker 6: in its prime, was just something to behold.
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Speaker 1: That's why I don't want him to go to the Warriors,
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Speaker 1: which is the other team being talked about. Enough of sports,
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Speaker 1: let me turn to what is on political journalists mind today.
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Speaker 1: I think the Chief Justice wrote exactly the opinion that
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Speaker 1: needed to be written. I know that Justice Barrett agreed
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Speaker 1: with him. Justice Kavanaugh did not, and there are dissents
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Speaker 1: from Justice Cabanat occurred in the result for different reasons,
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Speaker 1: doesn't accept the constitutional argument, and we've got Alido Thomas
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Speaker 1: and course it's dissenting. Do you know I'm going to
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Speaker 1: play quiz with you. Do you know how many babies
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Speaker 1: are born to people on tourist visa in the United
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Speaker 1: States every year? David, I don't know. It's the twenty
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Speaker 1: six thousand out of three and a half million births
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Speaker 1: in America every year. What do you think the angst
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Speaker 1: about this is really about? Because it's not about twenty
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Speaker 1: six thousand babies born to tourists.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think, look, I'm going to you know, I'm
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Speaker 6: going to do a little hypothesizing here, but I think
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Speaker 6: a lot of this has to do with the angst
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Speaker 6: over illegal immigration and this idea that no matter what
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Speaker 6: we do, we just can't seem to have an immigration system.
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Speaker 6: Everybody has to follow the rules, and you know, I
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Speaker 6: think the angst over these particular babies that are born
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Speaker 6: every year is misplaced. We also, look, we have a
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Speaker 6: demographic birth rate problem in this country, and the fact
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Speaker 6: that immigrants tend to have more babies than native born
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Speaker 6: Americans is something we need if you want your Social
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Speaker 6: Security and Medicare to be paid for in future years.
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Speaker 1: But I think that's where it stems from. I want
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Speaker 1: to re gurgitate that in different language. People think they're
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Speaker 1: losing America. And it's not nativists, because we've always been
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Speaker 1: a welcoming country, but it's that assimilation is no longer
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Speaker 1: held up and we feel being taken advantage of by
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Speaker 1: newly arrived and that birth tourism is just another symptom
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Speaker 1: of the disease of the unassimilated. And what will happen
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Speaker 1: to America if we don't actually grow a new generation
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Speaker 1: of American and the DSA isn't helping of my uh
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Speaker 1: embrighter med Well, look.
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Speaker 6: I think I think there's I think there's something to
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Speaker 6: what you're saying, Hugh. And again though I would say
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Speaker 6: that it's misplaced if you look at the the children
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Speaker 6: born of immigrants, legal or illegal, and then their children
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Speaker 6: and their children in the era of social welfare programs
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Speaker 6: that didn't exist when my grandparents came to the United
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Speaker 6: States or were well, no, that didn't exist. Yet these
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Speaker 6: these immigrants and particularly their children do assimilate and in
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Speaker 6: successive generations become more and more American in the way
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Speaker 6: the critics of birthright citizens inship and the people who
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Speaker 6: screaming about losing our country and all of that would
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Speaker 6: want them to be. I mean, you look at Hispanic
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Speaker 6: voting patterns, you look at Hispanic language patterns, and it's
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Speaker 6: just it's just plain to see.
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Speaker 1: And even people.
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Speaker 6: That come here and take advantage of social welfare programs
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Speaker 6: because they legally can you know, they, I often say,
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Speaker 6: make the best Americans because they realize how good they
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Speaker 6: have it here, because they because of where they came from.
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Speaker 6: They came from socialist countries, they came from tyrannical countries.
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Speaker 6: They came from countries that don't have the same freedoms
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Speaker 6: as the United States, the freedoms for advancement, you know,
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Speaker 6: across classes, socioeconomic classes, and so I just think a
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Speaker 6: lot of this is misplaced. But you know, part of
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Speaker 6: it is because as a country we are politically paralyzed
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Speaker 6: when it comes to dealing with our immigration system. It
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Speaker 6: needs to be overhauled and modernized. Border security needs to
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Speaker 6: be strengthened, not just at the executive level, but legislatively,
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Speaker 6: so it can't be undone from presidency to presidency, and
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Speaker 6: I think this is part of the problem.
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Speaker 1: There is enormous peril though in my view for the
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Speaker 1: Republican Party to become nativists. I don't think it is.
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Speaker 1: I don't think many people actually hold the natives view
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Speaker 1: of throw them all out and shut the door. I
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Speaker 1: just think birthright citizenship has been a handle onto which
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Speaker 1: a lot of people who are full about the future
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Speaker 1: of the country grabbed onto. It's not even statistically significant,
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Speaker 1: it just isn't.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I think you're correct, And look, Hugh, I
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Speaker 6: would just I'll just kind of make your point in
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Speaker 6: a different way. One of the reasons President Trump's numbers
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Speaker 6: with Hispanic voters were up across the board in twenty
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Speaker 6: twenty fourth because Hispanic voters, particularly those that lived near
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Speaker 6: or at the US border with Mexico, were unhappy with
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Speaker 6: the Biden administration's handling of illegal immigration and border security.
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Speaker 6: They didn't like the chaos, they didn't like how it
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Speaker 6: negatively impacted public safety. They believed, as having relatives that
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Speaker 6: it had to follow the rules, or may have to
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Speaker 6: follow the rules, that people should have to follow the rules.
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Speaker 6: And then after or after what appeared to be a
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Speaker 6: very chaotic and punitive mass deportation project by the Trump administration,
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Speaker 6: we see these numbers start to go back the other way.
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Speaker 6: And so you're correct in that just as these DSA
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Speaker 6: Democratic candidates have people looking at the Democratic Party differently,
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Speaker 6: at least in parts of the country where there appear
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Speaker 6: to be ascended, these sorts of voices on the right
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Speaker 6: could end up causing Republicans a problem long term.
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Speaker 1: Oh, they absolutely could. And my message to them if
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Speaker 1: they're listening, and please don't overreact and put the party
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Speaker 1: in the native His ditch because that's a sure way
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Speaker 1: to get the forty percent from fifty percent. In a
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Speaker 1: blink of an eye, David Dryer follow him A David
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Speaker 1: Drucker followim at David M. Drucker. I used to be
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Speaker 1: David Dryer, but he's a Lakers fan too, David M.
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Speaker 1: Drucker on x X Lakers fan now A Lebron's gone.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure stay tuned in America. I'm here you welcome back, America.
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Speaker 1: I'm here, Hewett, joined now by Bethanye Mandel, co founder
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Speaker 1: of the Moomwars dot substack dot com, and she must
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Speaker 1: be feeling pretty good today about the decision by the
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court to allow states to mandate that only boys
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Speaker 1: play boys sports and only girls playing girls sports.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of the decision, Bethany, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think you win some, you lose some, and we
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Speaker 2: lost another really big one that impacts our kids' future
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Speaker 2: in this country. But the decision, that decision was quite good.
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Speaker 2: I really appreciated. I think it was Clarence Thomas's sort
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Speaker 2: of declaration that just because you say something is so
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Speaker 2: doesn't make it in fact. So the wording on his
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Speaker 2: opinion was fantastic and made complete logical sense, which is
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Speaker 2: something that we haven't heard enough of on this issue
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Speaker 2: for a very long time.
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Speaker 1: So I think it was a huge win for parents,
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Speaker 1: and at least for parents of athletes, and for the
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Speaker 1: women who participate in the girls who participate.
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Speaker 3: What troubles you, Oh, the birthright citizenship decision?
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Speaker 1: Oh, we disagree on this.
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Speaker 3: This decision was fantastic.
19:45
Speaker 1: How can you know? I'm interested? You're a good faith person.
19:49
Speaker 1: Did no one warn you that that was going to
19:50
Speaker 1: be the result? Because that's been the law in the
19:52
Speaker 1: United States for one hundred and ninety years.
19:56
Speaker 2: I knew it was going to be the decision. But
19:58
Speaker 2: it doesn't stop me from feeling disappointed. I think that
20:03
Speaker 2: I think it's a shame. I you know, I've witnessed
20:05
Speaker 2: a lot of birth tourism in my youth, and it's
20:08
Speaker 2: just gotten worse. And there's now nothing preventing, you know,
20:13
Speaker 2: scores and scores of people from all over the world
20:16
Speaker 2: coming over here five months pregnant and staking down a
20:20
Speaker 2: claim the same way that my children and your grandchildren
20:23
Speaker 2: have a claim to citizenship.
20:24
Speaker 1: But there is, and that's the visa system. I've been
20:27
Speaker 1: making this argument for years. If you're worried about birth tourism,
20:30
Speaker 1: which are twenty six thousand births a year out of
20:32
Speaker 1: three point five million, then tell the State Department or
20:36
Speaker 1: President Trump order the State Department not to issue visas
20:39
Speaker 1: to pregnant women. Does that make sense? I think that
20:42
Speaker 1: makes sense to me if they're.
20:47
Speaker 3: How do we do that in practice?
20:48
Speaker 2: Like we're not going to give everyone a pregnancy test
20:50
Speaker 2: at the border, and if you're carrying small at five months,
20:54
Speaker 2: you're in good shape.
20:56
Speaker 1: I think you could do it. You can certainly ask
21:00
Speaker 1: embassy officials to deny these are to the visibly pregnant.
21:04
Speaker 1: Can't you do that?
21:06
Speaker 3: You can?
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Speaker 2: I mean, but I honestly, the birth tourism is a
21:09
Speaker 2: huge concern of mine, but as well the children of
21:12
Speaker 2: people who overstay their visas and illegal immigrants. Once you
21:15
Speaker 2: open that Pandora's box, the numbers become significantly larger.
21:19
Speaker 1: Okay, next, My next question is are you sure that
21:23
Speaker 1: the children of the illegals are going to turn out
21:27
Speaker 1: bad for the country. I'm not. I think they're going
21:29
Speaker 1: to turn out good for the country because we need babies.
21:32
Speaker 1: We need a lot of babies in the United States.
21:35
Speaker 1: We just need to educate them correctly.
21:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I don't have any hope that we're doing
21:42
Speaker 2: We're going to do that, and so I think that
21:45
Speaker 2: the question to us should be, are we confident that
21:49
Speaker 2: this person is going to be a net positive for
21:51
Speaker 2: our country? And if the underlying premise of their being
21:54
Speaker 2: here is that their parents broke our laws, I don't
21:57
Speaker 2: know we can make that assumption.
21:59
Speaker 1: Well, my argument is we've always made that assumption, but
22:04
Speaker 1: that you can try and get the country to change
22:06
Speaker 1: its mind via constitutional amendment. Do you think that would
22:09
Speaker 1: have a prayer of passing? No, so is it worth
22:15
Speaker 1: any effort?
22:18
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the best thing that we can
22:20
Speaker 2: do is try to enact the immigration laws that we
22:24
Speaker 2: have on the books currently and get the people out
22:27
Speaker 2: that are not supposed to be here, and close the
22:29
Speaker 2: borders to pregnant individuals and actually enforce that. I think
22:33
Speaker 2: that that's our best shot at and making sure that
22:36
Speaker 2: America doesn't become like Europe, which we do agree.
22:39
Speaker 3: To the country.
22:41
Speaker 1: That's why the border wall matters so much. It's why
22:44
Speaker 1: last week's decision on tps being temporary an asylum meaning
22:48
Speaker 1: you can only claim it when you're inside of the
22:50
Speaker 1: country not at the edge. Those were massive wins for
22:54
Speaker 1: rational immigration policy. I also think, though, if we're a
22:59
Speaker 1: rule of society, we can't just change it because we're worried.
23:02
Speaker 1: And I think the Chief and Justice Barrett wrote that
23:05
Speaker 1: now the three Liberals were always going to rule that way.
23:08
Speaker 1: But are you surprised by Justice Corsicch or Justice Kavanaugh.
23:16
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by Leoah Thomas.
23:19
Speaker 7: No.
23:20
Speaker 2: I think everyone ruled the way that everyone kind of
23:22
Speaker 2: expected them to. My palate's intrigue is, actually, what's going
23:27
Speaker 2: on with the Alito thing? Did you see that that AP?
23:30
Speaker 3: Was it AP or NPR.
23:32
Speaker 1: Story that Nina told retiring No. I think Nina's never
23:36
Speaker 1: been right about anything, but she's perfectly pleasant, and she
23:39
Speaker 1: wrote a very good book about Ruth Ginsberg. And I
23:41
Speaker 1: think her father was a fabulous violinist, So I've got
23:44
Speaker 1: no personal extra grind with her. She jumped the gun
23:47
Speaker 1: because she hasn't been right and ahead of his story
23:50
Speaker 1: in thirty years. That's the problem.
23:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I there was some there was some sort
23:56
Speaker 2: of conversations of oh, did we find the leak? Or
23:59
Speaker 2: was this a test on Alito's part to see if
24:01
Speaker 2: he could.
24:01
Speaker 3: Find the leaker. I love all those calus intrigue stories.
24:05
Speaker 3: I'm here for it.
24:06
Speaker 1: Well, he may very well have baited a trap, but
24:10
Speaker 1: not to find the leaker. The leaker's gone. The laker
24:13
Speaker 1: has been gone for three years. It's a clerk, and
24:15
Speaker 1: the clerk has gone. It's not someone on the staff.
24:18
Speaker 1: But he might have bited a trap. I don't know,
24:20
Speaker 1: but it might not. And by the way, he might
24:23
Speaker 1: retire tomorrow. There's no rule that you got to retire
24:26
Speaker 1: on the end of the term. But you know what
24:27
Speaker 1: got missed today is that the court granted shirt in
24:32
Speaker 1: two cases to rule on the legality of banning AR fifteen.
24:37
Speaker 1: Now that's oh, that's honey for the for the bear.
24:42
Speaker 1: That is Alito and Thomas right, they're not gonna leave
24:45
Speaker 1: when they're going to finally get to the AR fifteen case.
24:49
Speaker 3: I love it.
24:50
Speaker 2: It's funny because I used to live I still live
24:53
Speaker 2: in a very liberal area, but the other liberal area
24:55
Speaker 2: I used to live in tried to ban Ar's based
25:00
Speaker 2: on how scary they look, basically, and they decided not.
25:04
Speaker 3: To bring it to the county council.
25:06
Speaker 2: Because I testified in front of the county the town
25:09
Speaker 2: council whatever it was, and I was like, can you
25:11
Speaker 2: give me a definition for what you're trying to ban?
25:13
Speaker 3: And they were unable to do.
25:15
Speaker 2: So, and I was like, you can't ban something that
25:17
Speaker 2: you think looks scary, like you need to actually have
25:19
Speaker 2: some definitions.
25:21
Speaker 1: It's called void for vagueness, it's called void.
25:24
Speaker 3: They couldn't.
25:25
Speaker 1: So I want to give one more story to you.
25:27
Speaker 1: Nadave All reports that Benjamin Detnan, who was asked today,
25:32
Speaker 1: how did ten seven change you? And he responded with
25:35
Speaker 1: a joke, is it I lost some weight? What do
25:38
Speaker 1: you think that? Does that matter as much in Israel
25:40
Speaker 1: as it does here?
25:43
Speaker 2: I mean, I think so there's a prevailing feeling in
25:46
Speaker 2: Israel that he did not take it seriously enough on
25:49
Speaker 2: an interpersonal level.
25:50
Speaker 3: He didn't tour the damage.
25:52
Speaker 2: Kibbutz's, he didn't meet enough with the families, He didn't
25:55
Speaker 2: sympathize enough with the families, and.
25:56
Speaker 3: That just throws fuel on a fire.
25:59
Speaker 2: His wife also made some comments that were pretty insensitive.
26:04
Speaker 2: Insensitive has been how he's discussed a lot of these
26:08
Speaker 2: issues related to October seventh, and so I imagine that
26:11
Speaker 2: they landed just as well as many other things that
26:13
Speaker 2: he's done in the last two If.
26:15
Speaker 1: If is not the next Prime minister, that's a big
26:18
Speaker 1: if because you got to get the sixty one seats.
26:21
Speaker 1: Who is Who's going to be the next PM?
26:26
Speaker 2: That predicting Israeli politics is among the last things I
26:30
Speaker 2: like to do, because it is the most unpredictable, crazy
26:33
Speaker 2: system in the world that is in deep need of reform.
26:36
Speaker 3: And I wish them the best of luck. But I
26:38
Speaker 3: am going to enjoy.
26:39
Speaker 2: My constitution and my steady government over here because it
26:44
Speaker 2: is a mess over there.
26:46
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll rephrase the question, who would you like it
26:49
Speaker 1: to be? If it's not Netanyahu?
26:52
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't like any of them.
26:55
Speaker 1: That's really, that's really with the way I want. I
26:58
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27:20
Speaker 1: News contributor Extraordinaire Byron what's the reaction around town to
27:24
Speaker 1: the three Supreme Court decisions today?
27:28
Speaker 8: I think almost zero surprise. Everybody expected birthright citizenship to
27:35
Speaker 8: go the way that it did. I think most people
27:39
Speaker 8: certainly expected boys and girls sports to go that way.
27:44
Speaker 8: I think maybe there was a little surprise about the
27:46
Speaker 8: campaign finance thing, which actually makes a lot of sense
27:51
Speaker 8: if you've ever covered campaigns and weird contortions that campaigns
27:58
Speaker 8: get into to try to consult with their independent expenditure people,
28:05
Speaker 8: but not consult with them. So I think there wasn't
28:09
Speaker 8: a whole lot of surprise today.
28:11
Speaker 1: I agree and I am happy with each of those
28:14
Speaker 1: decisions because I agree with their reasoning. However, there's a
28:18
Speaker 1: lot of online anger about the Chief Justice, which I
28:23
Speaker 1: think is residual back to Obamacare to a certain extent.
28:26
Speaker 1: But Justice Kavanaugh did not sign on, which I thought
28:29
Speaker 1: he would, and Justice Gorsicch didn't sign on, which I
28:33
Speaker 1: thought he would. Therefore there's more anger than I expect.
28:37
Speaker 1: It had been seven to two, there wouldn't be any anger,
28:39
Speaker 1: but there's anger today.
28:40
Speaker 8: Have you seen that, you know a little bit, but
28:44
Speaker 8: that is such inside you know, not super inside baseball,
28:48
Speaker 8: but kind of inside baseball. So I think there was
28:51
Speaker 8: this feeling that the Court did exactly what people thought
28:56
Speaker 8: the Court would do. You know, I must say I
28:57
Speaker 8: thought the one that came out yesterday about the independent
29:02
Speaker 8: commissions and agencies was really important.
29:07
Speaker 7: Oh.
29:09
Speaker 8: I've really had a sense for a while that this
29:13
Speaker 8: second Trump term has just been a huge lesson for
29:17
Speaker 8: Washington in the meaning of Article two of the Constitution.
29:22
Speaker 8: And because Trump has said, look, I'm the head of
29:25
Speaker 8: the executive branch. This agency is in the executive branch.
29:29
Speaker 8: I'm going to fire this person, I'm going to put
29:30
Speaker 8: this person on this commission. And we're talking about more
29:34
Speaker 8: than four hundred and eighty such so called independent commissions.
29:37
Speaker 8: So I think that it was like a huge step
29:40
Speaker 8: forward in common sense. And I think that you saw
29:44
Speaker 8: the anger about it from the permanent bureaucracy. I thought
29:48
Speaker 8: was really kind of telling. So you know, maybe it
29:50
Speaker 8: wasn't the sexiest case that they had. I thought it
29:53
Speaker 8: was really important.
29:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. I want to quote the Chief Justice who wrote it,
29:56
Speaker 1: what is left of Humphrey's executor, we overrule and that
30:01
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how happy that made me. Because
30:03
Speaker 1: it took two days at Tetchacon Law students otherwise bright
30:06
Speaker 1: the difference between an independent agency and an other agency. However,
30:13
Speaker 1: again overreaction. It applies to Democrats and Republicans. So don't
30:18
Speaker 1: complain Republicans when a Democrat is president and they fire
30:22
Speaker 1: all the Republicans, because that's what they're going to do,
30:24
Speaker 1: and that's what they should do exactly.
30:26
Speaker 8: Look, if it's in the executive branch, the president can
30:30
Speaker 8: fire the person. Although they made this carve out, Now
30:32
Speaker 8: you're the expert and I'm not. They made this carve
30:35
Speaker 8: out about the FED because it has this unique history.
30:39
Speaker 8: They said, this unique place and everything. I mean, I
30:41
Speaker 8: feel reasonably comfortable with the carve out, but I'm not
30:44
Speaker 8: sure logically it makes a whole lot of sense.
30:47
Speaker 1: Well, the carve out, as I understand, is more procedural
30:50
Speaker 1: than it is substantive. But it's actually substance disguised as
30:53
Speaker 1: procedure because they don't want to do anything to the FED.
30:57
Speaker 1: They don't want a new president, a populace as president,
31:00
Speaker 1: for example, arriving and sweeping away what is it, thirteen
31:04
Speaker 1: FED governors or fifteen FED They don't want that. And
31:08
Speaker 1: some of them come from the private sector, and that's
31:10
Speaker 1: the distinguishing characteristic is that it's a quasi public private thing.
31:15
Speaker 1: But it's a very unique carve out. I mean, it's
31:17
Speaker 1: just one agency, it's the FED, and we'll see how
31:21
Speaker 1: that goes. But I'm very glad to have the FTC
31:24
Speaker 1: and the FCC and every the NTSP, every other agency
31:29
Speaker 1: now is in the executive branch. Do with it what
31:32
Speaker 1: you can. Doesn't change rule making though, piren They still
31:35
Speaker 1: have to go through rule making.
31:37
Speaker 8: And to say, I mean, the anger at it is
31:39
Speaker 8: just is just the product of decades of belief in
31:43
Speaker 8: the permanent bureaucracy that these agencies belong to them and
31:48
Speaker 8: that a new president couldn't come in and just have
31:52
Speaker 8: his way with them. And he had to go through
31:54
Speaker 8: all these soups, he had to wait for the seats
31:56
Speaker 8: to become open and all that sort of stuff, that
31:58
Speaker 8: he was bound by rules.
32:00
Speaker 1: And think about it. Think about COVID in retrospect. If
32:04
Speaker 1: if someone had wanted to fire everyone in leadership having
32:08
Speaker 1: to do with COVID, they ought to be able to
32:11
Speaker 1: do that. There are if you're making policy on COVID
32:14
Speaker 1: and you got it that wrong, you ought not to
32:16
Speaker 1: have tenure.
32:17
Speaker 8: That's my b Yes, No, that's absolutely that's absolutely correct.
32:22
Speaker 8: The thing is that you have these four hundred and
32:24
Speaker 8: eighty something agentcy. Congress created them. It puts them in
32:28
Speaker 8: the executive branch. And if the president, the President of
32:32
Speaker 8: the United States, cannot fire somebody on one of these commissions.
32:35
Speaker 1: Who can, No, nobody.
32:37
Speaker 8: That's where you get to the fourth branch of government problem.
32:39
Speaker 1: Now let's get to the campaign finance, the most opaque
32:43
Speaker 1: and the most important. I followed Rove on Fox today
32:47
Speaker 1: and Rob's a bulliant even though he started the NRSC
32:50
Speaker 1: under a different name. And now the NRC is going
32:53
Speaker 1: to go away because you can give the money the
32:54
Speaker 1: Republican Party, which is what you should do, and you
32:57
Speaker 1: ought to be able to coordinate with the candidate so
32:59
Speaker 1: that the parties get stronger.
33:01
Speaker 8: Well, you know, if you remember Senator Mitch McConnell, who
33:06
Speaker 8: most determined opponent of John McCain and campaign finance reform,
33:14
Speaker 8: McConnell's argument was always that the campaign finance reform law
33:20
Speaker 8: that McCain pushed and finally got put into law was
33:25
Speaker 8: taking away the power of the parties, It was taking
33:27
Speaker 8: away the role of the political parties, and there was
33:30
Speaker 8: actually no organization better to do that role than the parties,
33:35
Speaker 8: and McCain finegeld was kind of pushing them out of
33:37
Speaker 8: the picture. So this brings them back into the picture,
33:40
Speaker 8: which I think is a smart thing. So it's it
33:42
Speaker 8: really undoes one of the major tenants of McCain finegeld,
33:49
Speaker 8: and it brings us back on time.
33:51
Speaker 1: Actually, I always like to say Mitch McConnell saved the
33:54
Speaker 1: Constitution by holding open the vacancy that Chester scale is
33:57
Speaker 1: untimely death created. But he also saved the First Amendment
34:00
Speaker 1: by litigating forever. He'll never get props because you know,
34:04
Speaker 1: the Unit Party babblers will always rag on Mitch McConnell,
34:08
Speaker 1: but he was a principal and boy was he He
34:12
Speaker 1: got some a bit in his mouth and he ran
34:15
Speaker 1: with it. He never gave up.
34:16
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, we should say on the campaigns financed one right.
34:22
Speaker 1: Right, God bless Mitch McConnell. I'm really making my audience
34:25
Speaker 1: mad today because I just said God bless Mitch McConnell.
34:28
Speaker 1: And the citizenship decision was rightly decided. But that's what
34:31
Speaker 1: happens when you have principles. Byron, that's what happens. Uh,
34:34
Speaker 1: thank you Byron York Follo him on ex ed Byron York.
34:37
Speaker 1: Follow me the next segment. Matt Continenty will be along
34:40
Speaker 1: next hour to go through all three of these decisions
34:43
Speaker 1: in depth. From the position of like Byron, a very
34:46
Speaker 1: well informed layman. I'm just sort of a boring kan
34:50
Speaker 1: law professor says, all of it to be expected. Stay
34:53
Speaker 1: tuned in America, I'll be right back morning, gloried etan
34:55
Speaker 1: Grace in America. You already know what I think about
34:57
Speaker 1: today trio of Supreme Court decisions three for three. I'm
35:01
Speaker 1: one hundred percent in agreement with the majorities of the Court.
35:05
Speaker 1: But what about Matt Continetty. I have no idea what
35:07
Speaker 1: Matt Continetty thinks about them, So we're going to go
35:10
Speaker 1: in reverse order of controversy. Least controversial is that political
35:16
Speaker 1: parties can spend as much as they want on candidates. Matt,
35:19
Speaker 1: what do you think about that one?
35:22
Speaker 9: And I think it was the right decision by the Court, Hugh.
35:24
Speaker 9: I think it's a great victory for First Amendment rights,
35:28
Speaker 9: the continuing undoing of the flawed Buckley decision back in
35:34
Speaker 9: nineteen seventy four, and a victory for Senator Mitch McConnell
35:39
Speaker 9: as he's recuperating, and I think he'll be cheered by
35:43
Speaker 9: this decision. Is all.
35:46
Speaker 1: Reasonable people should be. You know, I'm so glad you
35:49
Speaker 1: brought up leader emeritis McConnell. People forget that through long,
35:54
Speaker 1: long years after the nineteen seventy four decision in Buckley
35:58
Speaker 1: versus Valleo. I think it's seventy four. Mitch McConnell would
36:01
Speaker 1: hold for it against First Amendment, breaking rules in campaign
36:08
Speaker 1: finance reform. He stood up against McCain fine gold. He
36:11
Speaker 1: has always been a free speech guy. Not many people
36:14
Speaker 1: remember that. They'll remember him for the no no nomination,
36:19
Speaker 1: no votes, no justices until after the election, and they'll
36:23
Speaker 1: remember him because Donald Trump hates him. But he's a
36:25
Speaker 1: free speech warrior and always has been.
36:29
Speaker 9: When you've been a senator for forty years, there's a
36:33
Speaker 9: lot of experiences you gather, and that was really Senator
36:38
Speaker 9: McConnell's first claim to fame was standing up for the
36:41
Speaker 9: freedom of political speech and being a burr in the
36:46
Speaker 9: side of his own party with McCain fine Gold and
36:50
Speaker 9: kind of forcing the issue. So yeah, if you think
36:53
Speaker 9: about Senator McConnell's legacy, I think standing up for the
36:57
Speaker 9: First Amendment is up there, though doesn't quite match his
37:01
Speaker 9: achievement in keeping the Scalia seat open in twenty sixteen
37:07
Speaker 9: and opening up the path for this incredible originalist Supreme
37:12
Speaker 9: Court that has been having such a major effect in
37:17
Speaker 9: reconstitutionalizing American law.
37:20
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to go out of order because you
37:22
Speaker 1: brought it up, Matt. We have an originalist Supreme Court.
37:25
Speaker 1: And I said on Fox News earlier today, if you're
37:28
Speaker 1: a text, history and tradition originalist like I am, you're
37:31
Speaker 1: very pleased with the decision on birthright citizenship because that's
37:35
Speaker 1: been the rule of the country since the Fourteenth Amendment passed,
37:38
Speaker 1: and before that, the common law of the country has
37:40
Speaker 1: explained by the Chief Justice boy Er. People mad at
37:43
Speaker 1: me for stating the originalists have to go with the
37:47
Speaker 1: Chief Justice here. It's a political problem if you worry
37:51
Speaker 1: about birth tourism, but it's not a constitutional issue. Do
37:55
Speaker 1: you agree or disagree?
37:58
Speaker 9: Well, I'm a little bit of two minds on this
38:01
Speaker 9: que and I know people will say that that's often
38:03
Speaker 9: the case, but I think that in a plain reading
38:07
Speaker 9: of the Fourteenth Amendment, this was the right decision, and
38:10
Speaker 9: it's also the simplest decision. But I'm also i have
38:14
Speaker 9: to say, having second thoughts after reading the four different
38:18
Speaker 9: descents by originalists. So this is a question that originalists
38:22
Speaker 9: can disagree on. And you know what's fascinating about this
38:26
Speaker 9: to me is I read the different dessens. Is all
38:29
Speaker 9: of these originalists are actually arguing different things. Yes, you know,
38:33
Speaker 9: so Kavanaugh says, Look, the executive order that Trump issued
38:38
Speaker 9: that violated an immigration statute, it didn't actually violate the
38:42
Speaker 9: fourteenth Amendment, and Congress can come back and rectify this situation.
38:47
Speaker 9: Interestingly enough, that seems to be the approach that President
38:50
Speaker 9: Trump is now recommending, based on his recent True Social post.
38:54
Speaker 9: There you have Justice Thomas, who clearly felt passionately about
38:58
Speaker 9: this issue. He's ninety four age descent, talking about how
39:02
Speaker 9: the Fourteenth Amendment doesn't apply to birthright citizenship because it's
39:07
Speaker 9: not a question of where you're born. This juice solely
39:11
Speaker 9: the soil, the law of the soil. It's where you
39:14
Speaker 9: are domiciled, where your home is. That's an interest. That's
39:18
Speaker 9: a very interesting point Justice Thomas makes. Justice Alito comes
39:22
Speaker 9: in then and goes, well, you know, it's not just domiciled,
39:25
Speaker 9: it's allegiance are you who are you aligned with?
39:29
Speaker 1: Who is your.
39:29
Speaker 9: Primary allegiance to If you're a temporary visitor to the
39:33
Speaker 9: United States, is it to.
39:34
Speaker 1: The United States?
39:35
Speaker 9: Probably not, And so that would mean that the birthright
39:38
Speaker 9: citizenship can be banned. And then Gorsuch comes in kind
39:42
Speaker 9: of as the closer, and he makes a few other
39:45
Speaker 9: points when in agreeing with the name of Justice Thomas
39:48
Speaker 9: Thomas's descent. So my takeaway after reading this really landmark decision,
39:53
Speaker 9: as Justice Leto says, is this story is far from over.
39:58
Speaker 1: Did you read the Chief Justice his opinion yet, Matt,
40:01
Speaker 1: Were you impressed by it? Because I thought it was
40:02
Speaker 1: all I did? I thought, yeah, I mean what he
40:05
Speaker 1: did go out.
40:07
Speaker 9: Chief Justice Roberts is an incredible legal writer, a brilliant man,
40:13
Speaker 9: an institutionalist, and I think looked at this case and
40:16
Speaker 9: he said, look, the words of the fourteenth Amendment are
40:19
Speaker 9: pretty clear. All persons born and subject to the jurisdiction thereof.
40:23
Speaker 9: And American law makes very few exceptions to the jurisdiction thereof.
40:29
Speaker 9: And that's you know, if you work in a foreign embassy,
40:31
Speaker 9: you're not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
40:34
Speaker 9: That's why those un bureaucrats can collect so many parking tickets, correct,
40:38
Speaker 9: And so I think the Justice took a plain textual
40:41
Speaker 9: reading and said this makes the executive order unconstitutional.
40:47
Speaker 1: And I think that that was the.
40:50
Speaker 9: Right decision, certainly politically, but it also leaves these other
40:57
Speaker 9: questions left unaddressed that the scenting originalist justices raise that
41:03
Speaker 9: I think we're going to have. Not only action in
41:05
Speaker 9: Congress will probably unsuccessful right now, but I think you
41:08
Speaker 9: might begin to see this question of birthright citizenship play
41:12
Speaker 9: an even greater role in Republican primaries than it has
41:16
Speaker 9: in the past.
41:17
Speaker 1: You know, it reminds me of the old debate Matt
41:19
Speaker 1: before you were born about how old should you be
41:21
Speaker 1: to vote? And there were attempts to make by statue
41:24
Speaker 1: to change to eighteen and eventually had to amend the
41:26
Speaker 1: constitution because the Constitution was pretty plain. The answer here is,
41:31
Speaker 1: if you're worried about birthright citizenship, craft and amendment and
41:34
Speaker 1: pass it. However, for those of US humbo con law teachers,
41:38
Speaker 1: I always approached this as what's the rule before, what's
41:42
Speaker 1: the rule today, what's the rule later? And do they
41:43
Speaker 1: make sense? Since Wan kim Ark in the nineteenth century.
41:48
Speaker 1: We've treated people as if you're born in the United States,
41:51
Speaker 1: you're a citizen in the United States, and Chief Justice
41:53
Speaker 1: Roberts depends on that all the common law. So I
41:56
Speaker 1: always say, the Constitution is not the Oracle of Delphi.
41:59
Speaker 1: It's written by farmers for farmers. It's not supposed to
42:03
Speaker 1: require advanced degrees. And by God, if you're going to
42:06
Speaker 1: pass the bar exam, up until this year and now
42:08
Speaker 1: forever thereafter, if you're born in the United States, you're
42:11
Speaker 1: a citizen in the United States. Don't you what I see?
42:14
Speaker 1: And I want to attribute to you what I see.
42:16
Speaker 1: People's reaction is great upset with the failure to control
42:21
Speaker 1: our borders and our visas to pregnant people. And we
42:24
Speaker 1: ought to do that, but we can't rewrite the Constitution
42:28
Speaker 1: because of current political difficulties in the administration of the
42:32
Speaker 1: border law.
42:34
Speaker 9: I do think that the way to control immigration is
42:37
Speaker 9: at the border, and President Trump has proven that in
42:41
Speaker 9: this second term. But I think people are also angry, Hugh,
42:46
Speaker 9: because they see the stories about birth tourism, and they
42:50
Speaker 9: see our system and our generosity being exploited, and that
42:54
Speaker 9: gets people angry. And there's also a lot of anger,
42:57
Speaker 9: because this question of birthright systems citizenship gets to the
43:02
Speaker 9: most important question really in American constitutional history, and that
43:05
Speaker 9: is who counts, who is part of the national community,
43:10
Speaker 9: who is a citizen? And what I found fascinating by
43:14
Speaker 9: these opinions is Justice Roberts. Chief Justice Roberts says, Look,
43:18
Speaker 9: it's simple, it's in the language. If you're born here,
43:21
Speaker 9: you're a citizen.
43:22
Speaker 1: Will stop.
43:24
Speaker 9: But Justice Gorstach says, actually, America has a different view
43:29
Speaker 9: in our past, and that's a settler's view of citizenship,
43:32
Speaker 9: of making your home here. And I think that actually
43:36
Speaker 9: is a fascinating phrase that captures the views of a
43:39
Speaker 9: great many Americans and explains why there's such anger at
43:43
Speaker 9: the decision and also why this story will go on.
43:46
Speaker 1: Justice course, I can hear him say that, having interviewed
43:49
Speaker 1: him a few times. He's got a particular approach where
43:53
Speaker 1: he makes matter of fact arguments sound so absolutely persuasive
43:58
Speaker 1: and often the most articulate fellow in the room. But
44:03
Speaker 1: he's running up against two two hundred and fifty two
44:07
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight years of subtle law in the
44:08
Speaker 1: United States. If you're born here, you're a citizen here
44:10
Speaker 1: with four exceptions that are well recognized and known in
44:13
Speaker 1: Wan can Mark. Sometimes we overthink this. So, Matt, what
44:17
Speaker 1: other alternative is there besides amending the constitution? We can
44:21
Speaker 1: prohibit visas for pregnant people. We can do that. We
44:24
Speaker 1: ought to do that actually, But what other thing beside
44:29
Speaker 1: an amendment is there? There's not a statute, right, I mean,
44:34
Speaker 1: we're going to see.
44:35
Speaker 9: I think there might be some legislative action if President
44:37
Speaker 9: Trump is demanding it as he is today. I think
44:41
Speaker 9: ultimately what you're going to see is the fight that
44:44
Speaker 9: works out over time within the courts. Let's not forget
44:46
Speaker 9: that the conservative legal movement, as powerful and influential as
44:50
Speaker 9: it is, is also a coalition and there are various voices,
44:55
Speaker 9: and we saw that reflected in oral argument in some
44:58
Speaker 9: of the bechiefs that were submitted in Trump Vie Barbera,
45:01
Speaker 9: which is originalists. As you and I have been discussing,
45:04
Speaker 9: originalists are not of one mind.
45:05
Speaker 1: On this question.
45:06
Speaker 9: So I actually think in future appointments, including future Supreme
45:10
Speaker 9: Court appointments, the question of who is a citizen will
45:13
Speaker 9: weigh heavily as presidents nominate and senators deliberate.
45:18
Speaker 1: Matt's coming back because We've got to talk about the
45:21
Speaker 1: one decision today that opens the door for this take
45:24
Speaker 1: to do whatever they want to do, which is in
45:26
Speaker 1: biological boys and girls courts Court held today act up
45:30
Speaker 1: to the stinks to decide what to do, doesn't offend
45:33
Speaker 1: the equal protection clause. Whatever they decide if they want
45:36
Speaker 1: to keep boys apart from the girls. Stay tuned. Matt
45:39
Speaker 1: will be right back. Welcome back America. Matt Cott medi
45:44
Speaker 1: who is the Wall Street Journal editorial writer and senior
45:47
Speaker 1: fellow at the American Enterprise Institute's back with us. Well
45:51
Speaker 1: read in the law, though not himself a lawyer, he
45:53
Speaker 1: likes to fashion common sense approaches to these issues. So, Matt,
45:59
Speaker 1: when you listen to and heard the court rule on
46:03
Speaker 1: boys and girls sports, and I'm using that as a
46:05
Speaker 1: rubric that covers West Virginia, all the state laws out there,
46:09
Speaker 1: and I believe they are twenty four total, what did
46:11
Speaker 1: you make of the decision? Because to me, it was
46:13
Speaker 1: another unremarkable common sense decision.
46:17
Speaker 9: I think it was a great decision in West Virginia.
46:21
Speaker 9: Theb PJ, the student, the transgender student. It was a
46:28
Speaker 9: great decision for a couple of reasons. One is it
46:31
Speaker 9: upholds the state's rights to decide whether biological boys should
46:36
Speaker 9: play in girls' sports. I'm of the view that they
46:39
Speaker 9: should not. It was the view of the West Virginia
46:41
Speaker 9: legislature in twenty six other state legislatures, and what the
46:46
Speaker 9: Court says is right. The states like West Virginia have
46:50
Speaker 9: the right to say that girls' sports are for girls,
46:52
Speaker 9: are for biological girls, and that when you look at
46:56
Speaker 9: Title nine, a law of that. For many years conservatives
47:00
Speaker 9: to size, but now conservatives are defending when you look
47:03
Speaker 9: at Title nine, it's clear that the word sex refers
47:07
Speaker 9: to biological sex. And I think that's the plain reading
47:10
Speaker 9: of the law, and that's what makes this decision very
47:14
Speaker 9: just a decision. I also think it's fascinating to see
47:17
Speaker 9: that in the Descent, Justice Jackson is still trying to
47:21
Speaker 9: figure out what a woman is, and.
47:23
Speaker 1: So it is sent trying.
47:26
Speaker 9: She has the bilogical, she has the identity. She's still
47:30
Speaker 9: figuring out there in public for all of us to
47:34
Speaker 9: work with her as.
47:35
Speaker 1: She As we said in the last segment, there are
47:38
Speaker 1: some descents that are worth reading. Very rarely do I
47:40
Speaker 1: sign descents in con lack, because we've got enough stuff
47:43
Speaker 1: to go through. But Justice Coalia dessent. It's always worth
47:48
Speaker 1: reading a justice, of course, such a descent of Justice
47:50
Speaker 1: Thomas descent and now Justice Toledo descent. But Justice Jackson
47:55
Speaker 1: descent is not making it on my reading list because
47:57
Speaker 1: for one thing, it's incoherent. Did you understand it? Did
48:00
Speaker 1: you get the point she was making?
48:02
Speaker 9: But if you think if you think reading the descent
48:04
Speaker 9: is hard, try listening to them. I think last week
48:07
Speaker 9: she read whatever descents for the bench. It went on
48:09
Speaker 9: and on, and I think, just as Alito kind of said,
48:13
Speaker 9: if I knew it was going to.
48:14
Speaker 1: Go on so long, I wouldn't have been here. So, Matt,
48:18
Speaker 1: a practical political question of prudence. Does the ending of
48:22
Speaker 1: this court term add rocket fuel or de tract rocket
48:27
Speaker 1: fuel from the pack the court? By the way, I
48:29
Speaker 1: think that's unconstitutional. I don't think it can move the
48:31
Speaker 1: Court from nine. I'm a minority view on that, but
48:34
Speaker 1: I believe they moved it down to nine after the
48:36
Speaker 1: fourteenth Amendment and the due process guarantees fix it there.
48:41
Speaker 1: Both in the fifth and the fourteenth Amendment. We moved
48:43
Speaker 1: it around between the Founding and the Country and the
48:46
Speaker 1: reconstruction era, but it's been at nine since eighteen sixty nine.
48:49
Speaker 1: I don't think we should change it. I think it's unconstitutional,
48:51
Speaker 1: But does it add fuel to the fire one way
48:54
Speaker 1: or the other? The decisions last week and this week, I.
48:59
Speaker 9: Don't think it will add any more fuel to the
49:01
Speaker 9: fire Hue. But I do think that the desire of
49:06
Speaker 9: progressive activists, this new democratic socialist party that's coming into being,
49:12
Speaker 9: to radically change our institutions, including the Supreme Court, is
49:16
Speaker 9: not dimmed at all. What the Court does is in fact,
49:19
Speaker 9: in some ways irrelevant to this desire on the left
49:24
Speaker 9: to pack the court, to admit new states, to override
49:28
Speaker 9: the filibuster, and to basically jam through an agenda most
49:32
Speaker 9: Americans reject through sheer force and institutional capture, and so
49:39
Speaker 9: that is going to have to be fought politically. What
49:41
Speaker 9: the Court is doing is what I think the Roberts Court,
49:44
Speaker 9: and especially in recent years with the six' to three,
49:47
Speaker 9: majority has been, doing and that is protecting The constitution
49:51
Speaker 9: according to the text and tradition of The United.
49:54
Speaker 1: States, yeah tax testry and. TRADITION i am curious, though
49:58
Speaker 1: If jackson doesn't hurt The. Pact the court people's argument
50:04
Speaker 1: it's so incoherent and say so absolutely, predictable and her
50:10
Speaker 1: reasoning is so absolutely opaque and beyond. Parsing we get
50:15
Speaker 1: five more of her, right we get five more absolute, activists,
50:22
Speaker 1: academic almost inscrutable. Justices if we expand in the court to.
50:29
Speaker 1: Fourteen do you think that gives anyone?
50:31
Speaker 9: Pause not on the, left H i, MEAN i think
50:36
Speaker 9: it gives Many americans. PAUSE i think it will give
50:39
Speaker 9: many independent voters pause when this question really comes to
50:42
Speaker 9: the fore in twenty twenty, eight and that, is Most
50:46
Speaker 9: americans are fine with the structure of The Supreme, court
50:50
Speaker 9: as you, said nine justices that's been set in stone
50:53
Speaker 9: for over one hundred. Years that's what we're used. To
50:56
Speaker 9: and by the, way a decision like The West virginia
50:58
Speaker 9: decision is eighty twenty. Issue Most americans don't believe that
51:04
Speaker 9: biological men should play in women's. Sports so at, politically
51:09
Speaker 9: this is an argument for continuing the structure of government
51:14
Speaker 9: that we have and that has proven so. Successful but
51:17
Speaker 9: for the, left they're going to try because they can't
51:21
Speaker 9: get the results they want under the present form of,
51:24
Speaker 9: government and therefore they're going to do everything they can
51:27
Speaker 9: to change, it even if it means that they have
51:31
Speaker 9: to really steamroll over public opinion and this beautiful system
51:37
Speaker 9: of government that we're celebrating two hundred and fifty years
51:40
Speaker 9: of On.
51:41
Speaker 1: Saturday so last, Question matt CON i was On foxhay
51:45
Speaker 1: giving my two cents on these, opinions and AS i,
51:48
Speaker 1: Said i'm happy with. Them but one commentator came on and,
51:52
Speaker 1: said this is just Cheaf Justice roberts thinking he can
51:56
Speaker 1: protect the court institutionally and going out of his. Way
51:59
Speaker 1: he doesn't really believe. IT i don't like it when
52:02
Speaker 1: people read. Minds it, is in fact the practice of
52:05
Speaker 1: justices to write down their. Arguments what do you make
52:07
Speaker 1: about arguments that The Chief justice on birthright citizenship And
52:12
Speaker 1: Justice Amy Goony barrett are doing political jarch. BRUSINS i
52:16
Speaker 1: just reject that. Entirely but what do you?
52:19
Speaker 9: THINK i, MEAN i reject it as. WELL i, MEAN
52:23
Speaker 9: i Think Chief Justice roberts is very much concerned with
52:27
Speaker 9: the independence of The, court but that's not. Politics it's
52:31
Speaker 9: a larger kind of institutional. Concern Justice, barrett if, anything
52:35
Speaker 9: is more academic and more. Theoretical she's not interested in political.
52:40
Speaker 9: Consequences she's interested in working out her. Ideas AND i
52:44
Speaker 9: think that it's always wrong to argue for, motivation you
52:48
Speaker 9: want to look at the. Results you want to look
52:51
Speaker 9: at what actually happens the. Consequences AND i think what
52:54
Speaker 9: we have is a court who the Sixth republican appointees
52:59
Speaker 9: all have a fidelity to The constitution to all, degree
53:03
Speaker 9: to varying, degrees are all. Originalists but one argument for
53:08
Speaker 9: originalism is that it doesn't lead to any prefabricated. Result
53:12
Speaker 9: and that's why you have decisions Like trump. V, barbara
53:15
Speaker 9: where very, intelligent well intentioned originalists can reach various.
53:21
Speaker 1: Conclusions, Absolutely, NOW i lied very last. Question will The
53:27
Speaker 1: democrats try and wage a boys and girls sports? Campaign
53:32
Speaker 1: do you think they'll actually run on? That it's so,
53:34
Speaker 1: crazy but do you think they'll run on. IT i
53:38
Speaker 1: don't think they'll run on.
53:38
Speaker 2: IT.
53:39
Speaker 9: Q but what we've seen in recent weeks is that
53:41
Speaker 9: the radical left is on the march and can't be.
53:43
Speaker 9: Stopped and so even if The democratic political leaders and
53:49
Speaker 9: candidates try to avoid the issue of biological men and women's,
53:54
Speaker 9: sports the left is going to demand that they have
53:58
Speaker 9: certain positions on the, issue is going to demand that
54:01
Speaker 9: they say certain. Things they will hound and harass candidates
54:06
Speaker 9: like we saw recently With Scott wiener In, california and
54:10
Speaker 9: so The democrats are going to be tied to this
54:12
Speaker 9: left that they found that they cannot, control and that
54:16
Speaker 9: will likely consume. Them in the coming.
54:18
Speaker 1: Months we shall See Matt. Continetti thank you for joining
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57:07
Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Day. James and we have three big, ones
57:11
Speaker 1: so let's start with the biggest of, them birthright. Citizenship
57:15
Speaker 1: so you, KNOW i think it's correctly decided on with
57:18
Speaker 1: The Chief. Justice what say, You, well.
57:22
Speaker 7: As you note, You i'm a long Standing Supreme court
57:24
Speaker 7: observer in the sense THAT i have walked past the
57:27
Speaker 7: building a few times.
57:28
Speaker 1: And looked at.
57:29
Speaker 7: It SO i can't tell you whether or not this
57:31
Speaker 7: and that and this person and that person made the
57:33
Speaker 7: right decision going back to eighteen sixty. Three BUT i
57:36
Speaker 7: can tell you THAT i. AGREE i think this is
57:39
Speaker 7: how it was going to. GO i didn't really see
57:41
Speaker 7: any other, way And i'm not surprised by it at,
57:43
Speaker 7: All and it seems to me that the rowdy for
57:46
Speaker 7: this is just simply one of two. Things you can
57:49
Speaker 7: either have tighter border, control which'd be, great kind of
57:52
Speaker 7: sort of want that.
57:54
Speaker 1: And prevent people from doing the birth tourism.
57:56
Speaker 7: Business or you can announce perhaps that in the, future
57:59
Speaker 7: anybody who does give birth and they're not a citizen
58:02
Speaker 7: will be immediately air roofs to the airlifted to the
58:05
Speaker 7: by helicopter to the roof of The liberian, embassy and
58:07
Speaker 7: then they will be a citizen of that.
58:09
Speaker 1: Country actually that's not. True it isn't.
58:11
Speaker 7: Soil you can't be if you're born in the roof
58:13
Speaker 7: of The liberian, embassy you're not A liberian, citizen but
58:16
Speaker 7: being given up people pause so that they consider going
58:19
Speaker 7: elsewhere for their birth.
58:20
Speaker 1: Tourism but you, know The internet is on fire and
58:25
Speaker 1: the bird, no, yeah believe it or. Not there's a
58:29
Speaker 1: division of opinion on the right and they're the almost
58:34
Speaker 1: quadrennial exercise and burn the effigy Of Chief Justice roberts.
58:38
Speaker 1: UNDERWAY i think it's. Silly it reads just LIKE i
58:42
Speaker 1: thought it would read the same Way i've been arguing
58:44
Speaker 1: the case for thirty. Years why do people get so
58:48
Speaker 1: exercised about, This, Chaine.
58:51
Speaker 7: Well first of, all it's the internet and saying and
58:53
Speaker 7: The internet is on flame every day like A russian oil,
58:56
Speaker 7: refinery so that's not surprising.
58:57
Speaker 1: Me so you have a concentrated group of.
59:00
Speaker 7: People who are, very very tuned into this and have
59:02
Speaker 7: to argue the. Points BUT i, mean it's one of
59:04
Speaker 7: those things that people have been spun up for and
59:06
Speaker 7: rightly so it's injectionable ideas to a lot of people
59:09
Speaker 7: that people can just PLoP in here and PLoP one
59:11
Speaker 7: out and they air, Go you're a citizen.
59:12
Speaker 1: With all the rights and the rest of.
59:13
Speaker 7: It but it isn't that significant, Numerically and you, know
59:17
Speaker 7: it's because the left and the right of the same.
59:20
Speaker 7: Way sometimes is that it's because we want something to
59:22
Speaker 7: happen and we think it's the right thing to. Happen,
59:24
Speaker 7: airgo that's how they should, decide regardless of what the
59:27
Speaker 7: actual law. Is AND i prefer that they stick precisely
59:30
Speaker 7: to what the law is and don't get outside of.
59:33
Speaker 7: That so when originalists come to the four of, this
59:35
Speaker 7: sometimes you're going to be. Disappointed sometimes you're going to be.
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Speaker 1: Happy all. Right, now second big case about which you
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Speaker 1: probably have no, opinion is that now political parties can
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Speaker 1: give as much money as they raise as they want
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Speaker 1: to the candidates of their. Party are you outraged or
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Speaker 1: indifferent to? This it depends which side of ME i
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Speaker 1: want to. Challenge DO i want to challenge.
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Speaker 7: My adolescent liberal socialist side and say this is the,
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Speaker 7: way this is absolute, nonsense this is, horror this is
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Speaker 7: how they buy everybody. Off or DO i want to
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Speaker 7: channel my, sober middle of the, road sensible conservative later
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Speaker 7: life stags, say of, course money is free. Speech of
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Speaker 7: course is you got to be able to give however
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Speaker 7: much they. Want and it's when the people screamed that
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Speaker 7: this is the way of buying our. Democracy you have
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Speaker 7: to ask them how many billions of dollars would have
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Speaker 7: taken for you to vote For Donald? Trump and they'll, say,
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Speaker 7: WELL i would never would have ordered For Donald. Trump
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Speaker 7: you know exactly the the usefulness of money in. Policy
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Speaker 7: we can debate the usefulness of money and politics all we,
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Speaker 7: want BUT i grew up constantly with nothing but PSAs
1:00:37
Speaker 7: about this is your brain on drugs and you should
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Speaker 7: join the. Army and you, know my generation consisted of
1:00:42
Speaker 7: people who did a lot of dope and didn't go
1:00:43
Speaker 7: to the. Army so those ads didn't do any. Good
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Speaker 7: advertising can only do so. Much money can only do so.
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Speaker 7: Much and at the end of the, DAY i WOULD
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Speaker 7: i prefer to, say let them spend what they.
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Speaker 1: Want, well that is the constitutional. Way let's get to
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Speaker 1: the last, one boys and girls. SPORTS i Think minnesota
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Speaker 1: may be one of the twenty four states that have
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Speaker 1: not yet outlawed boys playing in girls', sports Like, maine Like.
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Speaker 1: California what do you think about the decision that, says
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Speaker 1: if they want, to they can band boys from playing
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Speaker 1: in girls. Sports.
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Speaker 7: Nothing it makes perfect, Sense and they would argue with
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Speaker 7: you that you're misphrasing the argument right there, here you're
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Speaker 7: being transphobic and saying that it's boys and girls. Sports
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Speaker 7: they're girls in girls, sports don't you know they've just
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Speaker 7: entered their gender altered their gender. Identity, no it's a
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Speaker 7: common sense issue and most people agree with, it and
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Speaker 7: good luck running against. IT i, mean they're going to
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Speaker 7: be people who are on the left WHO i, believe
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Speaker 7: ruling for, office would prefer just not to talk about
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Speaker 7: that anymore because they went all in on it and
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Speaker 7: then the public shifted on it and they're finding themselves
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Speaker 7: exposed and the rest of. It and on the left
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Speaker 7: flank they have THE dsa and the rest who are
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Speaker 7: eager for ideological purity on every particular. Issue you can
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Speaker 7: be heading off Like Scott wiener to a trans rally
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Speaker 7: trans shabbata with a trans, rabbi and you're still not
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Speaker 7: pure enough because you didn't cast a gaty as a
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Speaker 7: real for gods at the right time with the right.
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Speaker 7: Words so they don't want to run on, this but
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Speaker 7: they're going to have to call the, court have to
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Speaker 7: be called to account for it by the people in
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Speaker 7: their own.
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Speaker 1: Party it's a poppy In August, Minneapolis minnesota votes And
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Speaker 1: Peggy flanagan wants to be Your senate. NOMINEE i suggest
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Speaker 1: that she Is Scott wiener In minnesota and write about her. Politics,
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Speaker 1: yeah pretty much.
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Speaker 7: So AS i THINK i mentioned the last time she came,
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Speaker 7: up she's famously photographed with A t shirt that said
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Speaker 7: protect trans kids with a big. Knife as If i'm
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Speaker 7: supposed to start snapping people who are coming after someone
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Speaker 7: who wants to slap the puberty blockers out of the
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Speaker 7: hands of a twelve year, old she, will BUT i
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Speaker 7: don't think it is she Ani. SEMITIC i don't. KNOW
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Speaker 7: Israel but AGAIN i DON'T i don't think that she's
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Speaker 7: going to suffer the same hits from the. LEFT i
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Speaker 7: don't think. THAT i Think minneapolis they're a bit More,
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Speaker 7: minnesota they are a bit more any about that in
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Speaker 7: the cities and would prefer just to usher her along
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Speaker 7: as quickly as. Possible she takes all the right, boxes
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Speaker 7: she says all the right things to, them so they're
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Speaker 7: probably going to be happy with.
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Speaker 1: Her Because i've been watching tonight there will be an
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Speaker 1: election In Denver diana De, guett who's been In congress Since.
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Speaker 1: for whatever they want to. Pass and she's running against
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Speaker 1: a twenty nine year old radical who Makes mondami look
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Speaker 1: like a. Conservative who do you think is going to
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Speaker 1: win the? Night you don't know anything about the. RIGHT
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Speaker 1: i think she's going TO i think the twenty nine
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Speaker 1: year old's going to. Win it's entirely.
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Speaker 7: i came out of the tea and, somebody, nice young
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Speaker 7: lady handed me a flyer and, said would you, like
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Speaker 7: are you thinking about Voting democratic? Socialists this? Novembrooks AND
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Speaker 7: i reacted as though she'd handed me a blater that
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Speaker 7: had been dipped in. Ebola AND i handed it right
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Speaker 7: back to her as quickly as, possible AND i, said
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Speaker 7: oh god, though and she smiled and said that's, okay that's,
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