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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 1) (5/14/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're going to keep the discuss bus
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  rolling by starting our look at Glain Maxwell's deposition. Now,
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  this is the deposition where she ended up catching charges
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  for perjury. So let's just dive right in and let's
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  get started. Virginia Roberts against Glaian Maxwell, Case number fifteen
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  DASH CV DASH zero seven four three three Dash RWs videographer.
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  We are now on the record and recording. This begins
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  disc number one, the deposition of Glenn Maxwell in the
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  matter of Virginia Roberts versus Glen Maxwell in the US
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  District Court for the Southern District of New York. Today
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  is April twenty second, twenty sixteen. The time is nine
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  oh four am. The deposition is being taken at five
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  seventy five Lexington Avenue in New York at the request
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  of Sigared McCauley of Boys, Schiller and Flexner. The videographer
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  is James Christy and the court reporter is Leslie Fagan.
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  Will counsel state their appearance and whom they represent, and
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  then court reporters swear in Miss Maxwell, Miss McCauley, my
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  name is Sigared McCauley. I'm here with my colleague Meredith Schultz.
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  We are both boys, Schiller and Flexner. We represent Miss Roberts.
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  Next person up mister Edwards, Brad Edwards. I also represent
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  Miss Roberts, Mister Cassell, Paul Cassell. I also represent Miss Roberts,
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  Mister Pagliuca, Jeff Pagliuca, and Laura Meninger on behalf of
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  Glenn Maxwell. Glenn Maxwell is called as a witness, having
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  been duly sworn by a notary public was examined and
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  testified as follows. So it's going to be Sigared McCauley
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  asking the questions here, and then obviously it's going to
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  be Glenn Maxwell doing the responding. And then if we
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  have any kind of add ons, like an objection or whatever,
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  I'll notate who's making the objection and we'll just keep
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  it rolling. So let's just get started, shall we. McCauley,
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  good morning. I'm going to explain some of the rules
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  that will happen with respect to depositions. Have you ever
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  been the pose before? Maxwell? I have not. McAuley. What
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  is going to happen here? We have a court reporter
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  and a videographer. What they do is take down the
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  words that we say, So when I ask you a question,
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  they will record what you say in response to that.
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  So we have to be mindful that in order for
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  them to do their job, we can't talk over each other.
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  Another issue you have to be weary of is that
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  in a response, you can't give a nonverbal response, in
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  other words, nodding a yes or no. They need to
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  hear a verbal response so they can record it on
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  their transcript. So that's important for you to remember as
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  we go through the day. If you forget, I will
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  be sure to remind you. Is there anything that would
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  prevent you from giving truthful testimony today? Maxwell, there is not, McCauley.
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  You are not on any medications or anything that would
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  inhibit your ability to remember or give truthful testimony. Maxwell,
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  I am not, mister Pagliuca. Could you identify the assistant
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  in the room, Miss McCauley. This is Emma Rosen from
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  our New York office. She is a paralegal. McCauley, Miss Maxwell,
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  can you please state your address for the record. Maxwell
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  currently redacted. McCauley, what is your date of birth? Maxwell
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  redacted McCauley, when did you first recruit a female to
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  work for mister Epstein. Mister Pagliuka, I object to the
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  form and foundation of the question. I believe this is
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  confidential information. I ask anyone who has not admitted in
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  this case to be excused from the room, please McCauley.
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  So the response to the question would Pagliuke, he interrupts.
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  The subject matter of this question is confidential, and I'm
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  designating it as confidential. Cigaret McCauley, I just want to
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  make that clear for the record. Brad Edwards interjects, So
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  we don't delay the deposition, I will step out of
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  the room, but I think that it's important to lay
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  the record that Pagliuca interrupts. I'm sorry. You're not admitted
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  in this proceeding, so you are not entitled to make
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  any record. If Ms McCauley wants to make a record,
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  she can, Brad Edwards, I can make a record right now, Pagliuca.
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  Maybe we should get the judge on the phone and
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  talk about it. Edwards, the record will be short. This
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  is the precise reason why Miss Roberts wants me in
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  this case, and I'm unable to effectively represent her at
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  this time because I'm unable to have access to the
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  confidential information, which includes apparently the entire deposition of miss Maxwell.
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  But for the sake of not further delaying this, I
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  will be outside the room. McCauley, Thank you. Maxwell. I
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  would just like to clarify the address. I'm in the
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  process of selling the house, so while I still receive
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  mail there, it's not my actual physical address. It's in
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  the process of being sold. It still requires some financial
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  paperwork to be done. So, just for the purposes of clarity, McCauley,
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  do you have a new address where you will be living? Maxwell,
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  I do not, McCauley. For the purpose of the record.
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  If there is something that I ask you that you
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  later remember something else or need to correct your testimony
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  in some way, you can do that. Just let me
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  know what it is and we will go back to
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  that question and you can clarify Maxwell. Of course, I
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  just want it to be clear. There is still some
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  paperwork pending for the final release, but it's in the
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  process of sale. But I don't have another address currently,
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  so whilst that should still be of record that the
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  mail could be forwarded there. So for the purposes of clarity.
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  I want it to be clear, McCauley. I appreciate that. So,
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  miss Maxwell, when did you first recruit a female to
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  work for mister Epstein? Mister Pagliuca, He objects, and he
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  says again, I object to form and foundation of the question. McCauley,
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  you can answer the question. Maxwell. First of all, can
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  you please clarify the question. I don't understand what you
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  mean by female. I don't understand what you mean by recruit.
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  Please be more clear and specific about what you were suggesting, McCauley.
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  Are you a female? Is that the sex that you are? Maxwell?
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  I am female, McCauley. That's what I'm referring to a female.
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  And I'm asking you when you're first, the very first
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  time you recruited a female to work for mister Epstein. Maxwell, again,
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  I don't understand that female. I am a fifty four
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  year old woman. McCauley. I'm not making it age any
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  age of a female that you recruited to work for
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  mister Epstein. Maxwell again, I was somebody who hired a
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  number of people to work for mister Epstein, and hiring
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  is one of my functions. McCauley. And when is the
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  first time you hired someone to work for mister Epstein?
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  A female Maxwell, as best as I can recollect, a
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  woman in the age, probably of about forty or fifty,
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  and it was sometime in nineteen ninety two. McCauley, How
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  long did you work for mister Epstein? Maxwell? I started
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  working for him at some point in nineteen ninety two,
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  and the nature of my work relationship with him changed
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  over time. So from around two thousand and two to
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  two thousand and three, the work lesson considerably. McCauley, When
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  did you to this, Pagliuca responds, Can I interject for
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  a moment if we were talking about background? McCauley cuts
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  them off. I'm in the middle of a question. Let
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  me finish it, and then you can interject. Manager. When
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  you say two thousand and two to two thousand and
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  three that the work lessened, when did you complete working
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  for mister Epstein? When was the last time you were
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  employed by him? The last date Maxwell, I believe I
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  was still doing helping him in a very nominal way,
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  maybe an hour or two a year, at some time
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  in two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine. To this,
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  pack Leuka interjects. So if you are going to be
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  talking about general background, I don't need to designate that
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  is confidential. So if you want to have them come
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  back in, that's fine. I assume by your first question
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  you were going into more sensitive areas. I will leave
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  it up to you. But if this is a general background,
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  it will not be designated as confidential. McCauley. I appreciate that.
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  I will jump back into my other questions pack Leuka,
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  so we will keep it as confidential. McCauley. When you
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  were first employed by him in nineteen ninety two, what
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  were you hired to do? Maxwell? First, I was consulting,
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  and what I did was I helped them with decorating
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  houses and in hiring staff to help run those houses. McCauley.
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  Did your duties change over the course of nineteen ninety
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  two to two thousand and nine, pack Leuka objective form
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  and foundation? Maxwell my job in telling running the homes
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  that he had, But much more importantly, most of the
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  houses had construction, and so whilst in nineteen ninety two
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  there was no construction project, there was construction projects that
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  began after that time, and I was in charge not
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  only of hiring architects. I was also in charge of
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  all the filings and overseeing that like a general contractor.
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  Would I also help with hiring the architects, hiring the builders,
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  reviewing the contracts for the builders, coordinating the building projects,
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  coordinating how the projects would lay out, the timing of
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  the projects, and all the various materials they would require
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  to run a very substantial building project. That's the nature
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  of the job I was dealing with. McCauley, How oll
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  was the youngest female you ever hired to work for Jeffrey?
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  Pagliyuka object to the form and the foundation. McCauley, you
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  can answer Maxwell, I have not any idea exactly of
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  the youngest adult employee that I hired for Jeffrey. McCauley,
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  when you say a employee, did you ever hire someone
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  that was under the age of eighteen? Maxwell? Never? McCauley,
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  did you ever bring someone who was under eighteen or
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  invite someone who is under eighteen to the Jeffrey Epstein's
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  home or any of his homes. Pagliuka objects to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell, can you repeat the question, McCauley,
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  did you ever invite anybody who was under the age
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  of eighteen to Jeffreys Holmes. Pagluka Sam objections Maxwell, I
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  have a number of friends that have children and friends
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  of mine that have kids, and in the invitation of
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  my friends and their kids, I'm sure I may have
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  invited some of my friend's kids to come. McCauley. Anybody
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  that is not a friend of yours Maxwell, any female
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  under the age of eighteen, did you invite them to
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  come to Jeffrey's home. Pagluka once again objects to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell again, as I said, I
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  am not aware of inviting anybody other than friends of
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  mine who have children to the house. McCauley, did you
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  invite Virginia Roberts to come to Jeffrey Epstein's home when
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  she was under the age of eighteen? Pagleuka objects to
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  the form and the foundation. Maxwell. Virginia Roberts held herself
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  out as a massuse and invited herself to come and
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  give a massage. McCauley, My question is, did you invite
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  Virginia Roberts when she was under the age of eighteen
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  to come to Jeffrey Epstein's home. Packleuka objects to the
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  form and the foundation. Maxwell again Virginia Roberts was a massus. McCauley.
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  I'm not asking if she was a messus. I'm asking
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  if you invited her to come to Jeffrey Epstein's home.
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  Maxwell again, there would be no course to have a
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  conversation with Virginia unless she held herself out to be
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  a massus. McCauley, I'm not asking that question. I'm asking
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  if you invited her to come to Jeffrey Epstein's home
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  when she was under the age of eighteen. Maxwell again,
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  I repeat, she was a massus and in the form
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  and as my job, I was to have people who
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  who he wanted for various things, including massage. She came
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  as a massuse, McCauley, So you invited her to his
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  home to come to give a massage? Is that correct?
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  Mister Pagliuca object to the form and foundation misdates the
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  witness testimony. Maxwell again, I did not invite Virginia Roberts.
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  She came as a messuse, McCauley, So she invited herself
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  to come as a massuse. She just showed up at
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  the front door. Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation, Maxwell.
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  Miss Roberts held herself out, McCauley. I'm not asking how
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  she held herself out. I'm asking how she arrived at
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  the home. Did you meet her and invite her to
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  come to the home, or how did she arrive there?
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  Pagliuca object to the form and the foundation. Maxwell, Miss
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  Roberts held her to be a messuse and her mother
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  drove her to the house. McCauley, when did you first
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  meet Virginia Roberts Maxwell, I don't have a recollection of
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  the first meeting. McCauley. Do you recall meeting her at
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  mar A Lago? Maxwell, Like I said, I don't have
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  a recollection of meeting miss Roberts. McCauley, So you recall
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  Miss Roberts being brought to the home by her mother.
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  Is that your testimony? Maxwell? That's my testimony, McCauley. And
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  that's the first time you met her Maxwell, Like I said,
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  I don't recall meeting her the first time. I do
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  remember her mother bringing her to the home. McCauley. Are
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  you a member at mar A Lago Maxwell? No, McCauley.
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  Have you ever visited mar A Lago? Maxwell? Yes, McCauley,
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  did you visit mar A Lago in the year two thousand, Maxwell,
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  I'm pretty sure I did, McCauley. When Miss Roberts arrived
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  at the home with her mother, what happened, Maxwell? I
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  spoke to her mother outside the house and she What
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  I don't recall is exactly what happened because I was
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  talking to her mother the entire time she was in
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  the house. McCauley, did you introduce miss Roberts to Jeffrey Epstein? Maxwell?
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  I don't recall how she actually met mister Epstein. As
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  I said, I spoke to her mother the entire time
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  outside the house. McCauley, did you walk Miss Roberts up
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  to the upstairs location at the Palm Beach house to
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  meet mister Epstein? Pag Leuka object to the form and foundation. McCauley,
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  you can answer Maxwell. I just explained I spent the
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  entire time talking to Virginia's mother outside the house. So
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  the answer to the question is no, McCauley. Did you
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  not walk her up and introduce her to mister Epstein? Maxwell?
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  I just said no, McCauley. Did you participate in a
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  massage the first time when she first came to the home,
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  and were you speaking with her mother she was in
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  the home. Is that correct? You brought her into the home?
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  Pag Leuka object to the form and the foundation. I
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  will repeat again. I was standing outside with her mother,
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  so very difficult for me to do anything else at
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  that time. So no, I did not take her upstairs. McCauley,
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  did you participate? Maxwell? Virginia lied one hundred percent about
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  absolutely everything that took place in that first meeting. She
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  has lied repeatedly often and is just an awful fantasist,
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  So very difficult for anything to take place that she repeated,
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  because I was with her mother the entire time. McCauley,
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  So did you have did you give a massage with
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  Virginia Roberts and mister Epstein during the first time Virginia
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  was at the West Palm Beach House. Pagliuca object to
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  the form and foundation McCauley, Yes or no? Maxwell? No,
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  All right, we're going to wrap up episode one there.
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  We'll pick up in the next episode where we left off.
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